[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to this very special episode of the safety third podcast We did this one on our own so there's a chance the idea doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you can hear us that means that John is fired because we don't need to make more John It only takes us 15 minutes at the beginning of every podcast to figure out all of everything I like wrote the program.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like wrote a lot of the software for the face tracking for Nigel
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, still I'm like, oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: How does this work?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you make the window, the discord call too big the face tracking stops working.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's the right size.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like, oh, I think this work.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No regrets.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't we don't need you, John.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm scared.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if it's not recording?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: The audio was red and the video was red.
[SPEAKER_00]: That means it should be recording something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes the card gets fall in the middle and John has to stop and say, oh, no, we just literally won't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll just end abruptly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if there's not enough room on this card, we're just straight up out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It ends when it ends.
[SPEAKER_02]: It ends when it ends or when we end it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, just the two of us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: The three of us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Nigel, you missed out on the hackathon, the sauce at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then you already do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just did two.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did our second one.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other one.
[SPEAKER_01]: The second one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just out so bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, staying up for 24 hours straight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really is is brutal.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a blessing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's the wrong and it's not just staying up with your friends playing video games You're like coding.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're you're working hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I haven't seen Kevin crash that hard a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like I would meet I was like you're just like I know I think I went to bed at two thirty and that was like that was I was fried.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was totally cocked
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I went to about like three or four and I slept until six I slept like maybe three hours and then I woke up I like found a little conference room to this company and pulse labs that make this induction stove top let us use their office and.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we use the stove for the hackathon and I found a little conference room just curled up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: In a ball is like, like, you know, you know, like the little, like, the, like the scream office.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the suicide book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the suicide book.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like just small enough for like a person to spit in.
[SPEAKER_00]: No way.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: You crawled into one of those.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like an office.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, you always see like, oh, it's for making phone calls and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a, like a desk.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the size of a desk in an office chair.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just like laid on the floor and like my toes were touching the door my head was touching the wall I bet it was so comfortable though.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was it was kind of cold actually I know I like it when it's cold, but not when I'm sleeping on the floor of an office building And so like I said like three hours I might the first time we did the this faucet on we did the line falling robots.
[SPEAKER_02]: I room it I realized that like actually staying up for 24 hours is is really shitty
[SPEAKER_02]: even getting like two hours asleep.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like is an order of magnitude improvement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's bad, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I felt like, you know, your computer is like four or six of ram.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like four in the morning, it's like you took take out three of the sticks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you like kind of removed the last one.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like kind of just being everyone's in a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was sitting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would like, I genuinely felt like my short-term memory had degraded into, like, a quarter of what it normally is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to write software, like, that, like, 8 a.m. Yeah, trying to, like, stay focused on one task.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot going on around you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so much easier to, like, I wrote this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I wrote that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I'm like, but, like, why did, like, this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I, like, made a flat, and like, why did I do that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how does this all tie together?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yeah, I would say you missed out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, until we built a hamburger robot, it was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every team had a different group.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, did it work well?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great question.
[SPEAKER_00]: A machine is the sum of its parts and the parts worked well on their own.
[SPEAKER_02]: If every machine has a 90% chance of working, and you have 10 machines, statistically, you can end up with like a few of them not working.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then that kind of destroys the entire assembly line.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like what's a hamburger without a button?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was bunting him.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's a hamburger with a way too much sauce because the sauce machine got stuck on and the conveyor belt stopped moving.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are all questions that you would have been asking at the
[SPEAKER_02]: It worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, one of the teams cooked the burger.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was completely automatic.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would stack the burgers on like a little rolling.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a coin sorting machine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the server would push the next one on to the griddle.
[SPEAKER_02]: The griddle would stay high.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would cook it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it would slide or like, no, they're not like a smash burger thing would come down on top of each other, like retain the heat inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and the next station was, uh, was the next one was cheese.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the cheese team, they had craft singles.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they came up with this, like, a butcher shop.
[SPEAKER_00]: It like a laundromat.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know how they have the clothes hanging on the slaughterhouse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like laundromat.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they would like like they would have unwrapped the craft singles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like a plastic knife would try to like scrape them off.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would hang the cheese up by the wrapper on this like conveyor mechanism.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was really cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as it indexed like all the way to the end, a knife would come down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like scrape the like cheese off of the plastic and it worked probably I was next to that team like when we were building stuff and I want to say during testing it was like flawless it worked every time so the problem was the cheese when it sits out for a while because it was unwrapped or like half unwrapped it would start to dry out and so then like the texture and the shape it would like start curling yeah so like as a stickier.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like, like all these variables are changing, it's actually like very funny to watch, uh, like things change from the original like idea that should work based on factors that are things you would encounter in the real world like.
[SPEAKER_02]: like, oh, well, how does this change when something's sitting out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like imagine, yeah, like a male sorter at a, you know, USPS facility, but like what if it's raining and like the packages are like a little bit damp.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really humid, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you build this machine that does something, and then like one environmental factor that's like not that big of a deal, because not like they're
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now like letters are stuck together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's the same with like a lot of these machines.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the longer they they lived the more these environmental factors, you know, came into play.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were only it's only supposed to work once.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only supposed to work once and it just it like every station at one point and its life worked once.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the most that we got it working, I think the bun, we never got the bun, it was the first bun land.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first bun never made it all the way on the on the plate.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it came, the pusher pushed it, but it got hung up on the corner.
[SPEAKER_00]: On the corner.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the edge of the plate.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the lettuce had trouble, so the lettuce team, they bought a paper shredder off Facebook marketplace to shred the lettuce and like they were having trouble feeding it through the tube and like the paper shredder couldn't accept a whole head of lettuce, it was like the long romaine lettuce.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they had to like figure out where to like shove the lettuce into the paper shredder and then they ended up like, you know, like, making more sacrifices like they would just put like a couple of lettuce leaves in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, originally the plan was to put like the whole head of lettuce in like this top shoot and then a circular saw blade swings over and cuts that the butt off the butt off and then all the leaves fall down into the paper shredder and they have a servo that goes like whack whack whack whack whack and like agitate that this is making sense like a pipe that sounds like a pipe dream.
[SPEAKER_00]: like fundamentally work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I said it only has to work once, but everybody built it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was going to be like a working cheeseburger assembly factory.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if if if they if we had like like magazines of buns like a whole row of burgers ready to get fried like a bunch of slices of cheese.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we had done, if we like if everyone went home and like slept and then came back
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there was just something like 24 hours, really is actually like 12 productive hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then 12 like completely, you know, you're freaking, uh, Ram is falling out of your head hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, and so it's like, the integration part where like everything went on the table and the conveyor belt got integrated, that's what they call integration hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: You like, finally put everything together and you're like, oh, my God, here's all these new problems that are all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: because then you have to detect when the conveyor is in front of your station or it has to trigger your station.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then yeah, it was it was it was you can you guys can probably understand how that could fall apart a huge problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you look at like the scope of it like how long it would take you to build each of these stations.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it would be a week of work for each one
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, see know the guy who made, do you see the the cell phone video the guy who's like cell phones are boring, so I made my own.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have not.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, there was like, uh, there's a handful of YouTubers or two, which was a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, this channel is a heat for getting.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was there, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was on a list team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's uh, Martin Plaza, Martin or Marvin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't
[SPEAKER_01]: Martin Plaza.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's I get a concrete and clay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Marcin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Marcin Plaza.
[SPEAKER_00]: Marcin Plaza.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is discredited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Marcin.
[SPEAKER_02]: His discredited username has a V in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, Marcin, M-A-R-C-I-M-P-L-A-Z-A.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he was on a team lettuce for a million views.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's just like kind of handheld.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like, uh, and held, yeah, portable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, I've seen that before.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a classic YouTube.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it was on a fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: You meet like a lot of crazy people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we, well, I guess he's on the Patreon server.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it's the, the, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's German.
[SPEAKER_02]: German guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy German hacker.
[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy German hacker.
[SPEAKER_02]: who's got like, he's like showing me, he's like solar set up like the inputs and outputs of his solar panels on his property and it was like 50 kilowatts and I was like, what do you do with it?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, like, like, he's all of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, for what?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's just like, experiments.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he doesn't even store it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like, I don't even know what it's going to.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just getting he's like burning like 50 kilowatts of this guy's actually living the dream and was it actually 50 kilowatts?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was it was it wasn't kilow hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: It must have been 50.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was large.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a, it was like a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like enough to cover a house and I think some extra panels in the yard.
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be 50 kilowatt.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's using a Tesla car battery as is like energy storage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you took a part of Tesla.
[SPEAKER_00]: A full Tesla full Tesla.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like 75.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like 75.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is 75 now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: 72.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're average.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been doing a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's your power bill?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your power bill?
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been solar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because like, we have one side that's, oh, one primary side that's for the lab, and then one side that's just like a workshop, but the lab, I run at the time I was running the few minutes all the time, so you're just dumping the air outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the electrical should be higher, whereas the other side was just straight a warehouse, but the warehouse side for both gas and electrical was like 20 or 30% more expensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you much could easily be like 500 watts, maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not well, they're just bringing their dumping all your, you're like air condition.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I remember my, my blower for my laser cutter was like a couple of amps.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like several amps.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a big boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two horse powers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that is, that's yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a desk looking.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say kind of like the one that I have.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably between yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mine's like seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the electrical honestly, I think it's just AC.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like it peaks in the summer and the dips in the winter when we use gas.
[SPEAKER_01]: So do you want me to include AC or not?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It probably is like when I think about it, horrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably like $2,000 in the summer a month.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy shit!
[SPEAKER_04]: What the fuck?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not a joke.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like 50.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that with the... That's still really bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I got an electricity bill the other day for like $800.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how do you know, you know, you know, like you get a water bill and like, oh, something.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you get.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we get.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't leak electricity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the wires are leaky.
[SPEAKER_02]: The good news is it wasn't actually $800, because I had forgotten to pay the previous money.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then the bad news was that means it was still $400.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's like...
[SPEAKER_02]: What is this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it just is the computers in here that are running, because we have all the remote editing stations.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the $400 power bill, got me looking into solar panels.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just realized after a bit of research that solar is like a total scam.
[SPEAKER_02]: Explain.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's like you ever have people knocking on your door.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys don't have this in Canada, but like I don't think you do in America.
[SPEAKER_02]: If someone's knocking on your door and you don't know who they are, there is a 90% chance.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a solar sales person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like almost every single person, every stranger that knocks on my door is not heard about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And any cost like 30 grand, but you'll never make money back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when they see an electric car out front, like we have the model Chelsea's Model 3, like they walk up and they're like, oh, I noticed you have an electric car in those solar panels.
[SPEAKER_02]: I always just say, like, I'm running things, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's basically like what it is, is this financing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's financing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I pretty sure that that's what those the walkground things are, is like a finance.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I started looking into like, how do you do solar yourself?
[SPEAKER_02]: and I was on Facebook Marketplace as I usually am.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, Kevin found some panels the other week that we should have bought that we didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a great deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've been looking for new panels and I found a guy selling panels and he was actually selling his whole solar system that he had never installed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The panels are only a small part.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the panel is generating DC and your house is AC.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that you have to have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's called an inverter and then the inverter takes the DC makes it into wall power that you're walking use.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the problem is that AC is an alternating signal and alternating signals that are touching your house are also touching the grid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so you can't feed in this this like wave form right into the wall because if they're not synced up perfectly, it's like put your kid on a swing and put the kid on the swing and then someone else decides to help But they push at the wrong part of the swing cycle and next thing you know your kids on the ground screaming bloody murder, yeah, so like they have to work together and so they're this whole synchronization thing that's required you need all you need like like basically like 10 to 20 thousand dollars worth of equipment you need the panels
[SPEAKER_02]: you need a box, you need a battery, and then you have a bunch of shit that talks to the grid, and power goes out, you need your inverted turn off, because the panels are like they let you feed electricity back into the grid, but if power goes out and like alignments working on a poll, and you're feeding electricity to the grid, then you're going to let you get the landmen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the problem is that there's a transformer every poll, so you're 120 volts, or 240 volts,
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're basically electrocuting a lot of men and whatever he is on the line back past the transfer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or if something blows right, you're going to be back feeding into that fault and you're going to blow your own equipment, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically, solar is like this disaster, not because solar is a scam, but because the whole like interconnect with grid is like honestly kind of I think a little bit, a little bit of a scam.
[SPEAKER_02]: a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they're all, everyone's trying to get you to like lease a solar system, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, I mean, that's 100% of scam.
[SPEAKER_02]: What they're charging you is, you know, maybe 200% 300% what it's actually charged in the labor cost like $10 to $20,000, like you can easily spend like what like $30,000 plus on a solar system, like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and so, you know, I'm I'm sitting and looking at stuff and Facebook marketplace and I'm like, well, that's pretty cheap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you could do it yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I found this guy selling his whole set up from a company called Sunpower, and he wanted he didn't have a price.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was just like asking for price.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Kevin, we low-balled him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how about was a fair price?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like 2000 or no, what's a low-ball that's like reasonable?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like 2000.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lowball that's reasonable for the whole system.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was 22 panels 22 the backup panels the backup battery the hub all the micro and Microsoft for each solar panel the hub the grid disconnect system all about paid 15,000 dollars for this stuff at least at least well I know I think that's I think 15,000 Okay, so then I start doing some research and sun power when bankrupt like in 2014
[SPEAKER_02]: and all their solar ships stopped working.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's all correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like all of its brick.
[SPEAKER_02]: And people, they like, they call it commissioning where you hook your system up and you commission.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, why do you have to commission this shit?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it turns out, I know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you're back feeding into the grid.
[SPEAKER_00]: The state, the government is like super strict saying like it has to be like certified and commission and inspected and so the systems are like so complicated because everyone feeds electricity into the grid so like every few weeks or months the year your system every part of your system will talk to some powers servers and and the like validate that your thing is working and if it doesn't get a response from the server they shut off yeah it's like a safety feature.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like literally imagine spending like 30 grand or having a lease for power for solar that you're like paying a company you know like $200 a month for 30 years or whatever 20 years and and now you're not even getting electricity because the system literally will not
[SPEAKER_02]: deliver electricity to your house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even the panels are working.
[SPEAKER_02]: The batteries are fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just shuts itself off and will not give you power.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it says, fuck you, you can only use from the grid right now because we can't talk to the servers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how many bad people complain about lithium mines and whatever coalball crap?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't really know anything about that, but like, you know, you got like the the vape, you know, batteries, like the guy doing the vape, house battery.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of those batteries in the battery bank that probably power 100 vapes.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are like, they're the big ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: 13 kilowatt hours for like a small pack, which is like what, one, seven, they're one, six of a Tesla battery.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like there's a chance that five houses with solar is an entire Tesla battery.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now those batteries are actually scrap.
[SPEAKER_02]: because they can't talk, like, and so I'm like, sitting here, so then I found a guy on Reddit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, I went down a rabbit hole last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, I'm searching like sun power commissioning.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I found as the whole sun power subreddit has turned into people trying to like have the system or like ask for help because they like, like not getting electricity out of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then or they can't see their data or like this, you know, just completely locked up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a guy,
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like one user that's kind of like the Batman of Sunpower, who apparently used to be a tech there or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was wondering about it, like all these comments, but like, oh, yeah, this guy, message is guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I message him and I'm like, hey, I found this solar system.
[SPEAKER_02]: This use solar system in Facebook marketplace.
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy got back and he wanted $3,000 for everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is still not like that better price.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't think and I'm like, but it has this sun power stuff like is this a bad buy and he's like okay Well, how much is it like what stuff is it and then he comes back and he says like don't do it
[SPEAKER_02]: like there's like basically like there there is a very high likelihood that you'll never be able to commission the system which is like you and you buy like this enormous battery pack that has like lithium like perfectly good lithium cells have never been used and you cannot turn it on and it's all proprietary so all the communication is like like you would have to tear it apart down to the like actual battery power yeah you probably couldn't even use the BMS like you would know yeah you need to be a mess and then you'd have to take all the cell bouncing wires connect them to a new
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so he says it's not worth it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So then I message the guy on Facebook and I'm like, hey, like, uh, I did some research and I know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I realized that like the system is basically impossible to commission.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, is that why you never installed it and he didn't answer me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I give you like $1500 for everything and he's like, no, the better the panels themselves are worth $2,500.
[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of like that kind of ticked me off because I'm pretty sure this dude knew that he wouldn't be able to say his system up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so then he was trying to find some sucker on Facebook Marketplace to buy this unused solar system.
[SPEAKER_02]: Say, okay, fine, I'll buy everything else for 500.
[SPEAKER_02]: For 500, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he can piece me on himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't give it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just in a respond.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you might come back and say, okay, fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should take the battery and put it in the tailor down, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want to take a part of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just go call Lee time and say, hey, give me a video battery and I'll say one thing in a video and then I won't answer emails again till I need something else.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they sent me an idea, but I so I looked up, you know, like other things and I realized that like it like I'm pretty sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: that you could power your entire house with solar for like actually $3,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe $4,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you could, you can, I think you could do some of this yourself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like the part of solar doesn't make any sense is the grid interconnect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's the part that takes it from a $5,000 system to like a $30,000 system that then they're like sending
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you could do it for like under $5,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you want used panels.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you get used panels, which, you know, a good price for used panels is like 12 cents, I think, per what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just going by panel, it's like $25 for a 200 watt panel seems like a pretty good deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that's kind of the bottom end of the price.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's just steel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you go and you get a bunch of lithium batteries like from golf cart batteries, and you could use lead acid batteries.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like lead time sells like a 100 amp hour, 50 volt battery for like a thousand bucks they're thinking right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I look at that and I'm like, like that's like a thousand dollars for, what is it like?
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it like $5 kilowatt hours or something like that?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you look at like a $30,000 solar system
[SPEAKER_02]: But like that's a really like starting to get really reasonable, not just reasonable, but like a steel and then the only thing you can't do is shove power back into the grid, that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like the solar charges the batteries and you like they sell it, like lead time sells a module too, and this is not even a lead time at I just am so pissed off at the sun power.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just make it very easy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, like you can't feed back into the grid, but also at the same time, like it doesn't matter because your whole house just gets inverted, you know you put the solar charges your battery.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the box inverts it and you can like stack inverters together like I like genuinely with used panels and like you know like stuff from China like you could build you could like power your entire house Or a couple thousand dollars and you would pay for your power bill in a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like genuinely like, yeah, do remember people say like, oh, you know, it'll pay for itself in like 10, 15 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you do your own solar system, which I genuinely do not think is that hard, you could hire an electrician to do a part of it and we'll take a little bit longer to pay off.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could pay for your entire power bill in one year if you use enough power.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you have an electric car, you can pay for your entire freaking power usage in a single year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like actually, why are people signing these like 20 years?
[SPEAKER_00]: like leases.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a scam.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the electricians are going to try to be like that was a billion dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just to like run a wire from the panel.
[SPEAKER_02]: People are seeing your battery.
[SPEAKER_02]: To retrofit my son power system to like what's the other one starts with an E. There's some company that starts with an E. And yeah, something like they wanted like seven grand to come in retrofit into the son power system.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And right, and then I was reading that like other people couldn't even get like solar people like solar install repair people to like touch the sunpower system so you have you have this company that like then gets you to sign these the 20 30 year leases however long these power leases are and then their their ship goes to fun and then they're higher back and breaks and because all the stuff has to be like service certified and like license and kept on top of it stops work it just like the safest thing is just shut your shit down and so now you're paying money every month.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're paying for power that you're getting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are you paying like the companies on a business?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an environmental catastrophe.
[SPEAKER_02]: How many tons of these batteries are like sitting attached to people's houses?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like dysfunctional.
[SPEAKER_02]: Completely not working at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: And channels all the electronics that go along with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is like, for $30,000 systems, he like, fuck you, I could build this myself, you know, just like the electrical work is going to be the most expensive, but like the solar panels are cheap as hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: The inverter and batteries are cheap as hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, sure you can't push power back into the grid, but who gives a shit, it can still accept power from the grid.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it, I don't know if it always goes through the battery or if it can like switch, where it like it can basically like switch to the other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not sure how I don't, I don't know how it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like actually for $5,000, and watching some YouTube videos and then hiring an electrician for like the worst part of it, you could probably for under $10,000 completely solarized your house and that is paying people.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you did it yourself, I think you could do it for like four.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that would be like, oh yeah, putting them on the roof.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know that would be part of paying somebody.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you could do, you could do that yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could.
[SPEAKER_00]: You might need like permits, which means you just have to get somebody to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: In Florida, you do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you need
[SPEAKER_00]: Not in Florida.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're back yard or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could definitely do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, would you give up a small segment of your backyard for free electricity?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's my rant about.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the solar scam.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, if you get like a contractor that does solar, they might not put used panels up on your roof, they do, no, they might not because they're, you know, like, we're, we can't, they will refuse to do, oh, they, I bet you they actually would refuse to do a 100% they would refuse and they'll try to sell you their own panels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because when I was looking for an air conditioner, it was the same things like you can buy the units online, but none of the local companies would install them.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, yeah, we don't install like third party units, you know, only our own certified units getting started with the houses.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, would you charge for that $10,000?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: $8,000?
[SPEAKER_00]: Get in here with that shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I didn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyways, can you set $2, $2, $2, $2, $2, $2 a month?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that way the crowd cooler running?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I completely forgot where this conversation came from.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so now that I think about it, it's the crowd cooler's running, and I think I estimated that at least half of it,
[SPEAKER_01]: was from just because the problem was as we discussed before, you know, generating your own liquid nitrogen, you can save money.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's less cost effective is when you chill the system, like you have your compressor running and you have a water chiller.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're dumping the heat into water, but you have a refrigerated water chiller that is then
[SPEAKER_01]: pumping it into the room, and then you have your AC unit, pumping that outside.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is your building too cold or too hot right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now it's like fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cold outside though.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're not running the heater.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like actually the cryo cooler is doing all the work for heating the building.
[SPEAKER_01]: If the cryo cooler I didn't talk about in the video, I turned everything off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was in April when I was running it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it still wasn't very hot out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So probably outside it was like, I don't know, like less than, I'll give you Fahrenheit, less than 70 Fahrenheit.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it went up to like 30 Celsius, which I think is like 90, not only.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what up like a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like getting hot and sweaty in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: from just, yeah, you could make a deal with your neighbors and like just like pipe the exhaust into the ducts and like heat the whole building I bet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the real the real solution is kind of like what you talked about in the past is just get.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially now in the winter and you get some passive just fan coils on the outside and just pump the air through like a radiator that sits on the outside and it'll just it'll just blow like at least reason cold air over it constantly and then if I have to get it like a if there has a bit more chilling needs to be done I can put it through a killer inside but it would be most of the cooling is just done by nature which would actually save a lot on the power
[SPEAKER_02]: This is such an engineering nerds night because there's something so satisfying about like eliminating an entire part of a loop like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, it's for free.
[SPEAKER_02]: All you have to do is build this in like drill a hole in the wall and run the copyrights.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then by the time you're done, you're like, I have saved.
[SPEAKER_02]: $100 a month at the low price of like a week of my time and like a thousand dollars in parts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, you know, if you did that at a big scale, like, you know, if you're running like a power plant or something, you're like, they wouldn't make sense, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to be a power plant.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, that's me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think dumping the heat outside of the bare minimum is worth it because probably it's like the compressor I think is like eight kilowatts, so at which is just it just goes all to heat, but then it's like the
[SPEAKER_04]: That is so much power.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so much power.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just kill watching your eight event like that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's your but when crazy, but it's like into your room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you need to use your less like not perfectly efficient AC to dump it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like your eight kilowatt chillers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just leave the door open.
[SPEAKER_02]: 20 kill off the actual the real answer to the nerds type is put out get a fucking a little rubber triangle from Amazon for three dollars Shubby under your door.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's next to the crowd cooler and then get a $20 fan at would you guys have target what's your like a part of the story of Walmart?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your Oh, yeah, yeah, you get a freaking box or put it in the doorway and just like suck the hot air outside
[SPEAKER_01]: What is, I mean, now that it's the winter, I could just run it as my heater.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would definitely run as a heater.
[SPEAKER_02]: My computer kind of does actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that way you break even over the course of a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, it's like, that's what was even, that was even kind of what was funny about the entire liquid nitrogen project is that like, no, at no point.
[SPEAKER_01]: was it ever financially worth it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I will never make enough liquid nitrogen to make back what it costs.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I love YouTube.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it lets you sort of explore these like brain damage things that you like should never do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's this like insurance policy that comes in and like rescue, rescues a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is not financially viable, but that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like do I do with it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bales you out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually feel though in general
[SPEAKER_01]: like kind of probably in some way contributing meaningfully to science and research stuff because when science started it was a bunch of just you know a lot of them I think it was like brand stuff you know the rich taxes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, who had nothing better to do and they're like, Oh, I'll just build a bunch like one guy built a giant magnifying glass to try to burn a diamond.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like people said just they were basically like do you like actually, but yeah, what they did those.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right guys today.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have electricity and we're gonna fry an elephant But the thing that's crazy is they actually were pushing science.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like what literally led to you know a lot of stuff Because how do you build a giant magnifying glass?
[SPEAKER_01]: I might have been like a Fresno or whatever But they could be a fight
[SPEAKER_01]: he finds like people who can build this on the large scale and they kind of come up with like a technique how to build the large magnifying glass.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they have the the schooling to do it to keep making big magnifying glasses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like some industrial revolution kind of shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like proving that you could burn a diamond, which is like and it proves that it was carbon and like it does contribute.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day, he's want to like flex on his peers and the town and I feel like that's YouTube now where
[SPEAKER_01]: For a lot of sign stuff, it's like if sponsors add sense and other sources of income, you could just do a project that doesn't need to be a product, but you don't have to sell it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just kind of do it, but then the funny thing is people who work in companies, government or whatever, doing like quote unquote real research can sometimes see those things and go, oh, that's actually like really useful for what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if without YouTube,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the capitalist like grind set mindset nightmares like you can't do like nothing can be for fun It yeah To be productive productive productive and so like that is actually sort of a weird thing to think about is just being able to like share something online and like sell ads on and get a sponsor Maybe actually is providing more useful information Like that wouldn't exist otherwise not saying that every YouTube video is a contribution to society
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, there are people who just like, even in the research that I've done where, you know, you get straight up like a random YouTuber who just is like, I'm going to just make this, you know, alloy and shoot it with my 50 cow.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, why?
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's because they're.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just are trying to pump out content and then somebody working for some company is like, Oh, we want to know what this material, the properties are and they're like, this random dude just cooked up some random alloys and just stress to hand full gravel.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am, but a vessel for owed you to sell subscriptions.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which size of gravel makes the best buck shot?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but literally people would do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just even just packed like, just guys going, what can I pack in a shotgun shell and just like, which dried from from the grocery stores?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's the best ammunition.
[SPEAKER_00]: Toflator mouse.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's still doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I want to see asphalt and just like a core sample from a road, I think it would kind of grenade Like a sideways like sideways trap.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, like say it goes into something like ballistic shell It'll like start to break apart.
[SPEAKER_02]: What would happen if if a chunk of asphalt was traveling at several hundred feet per second it would it would just
[SPEAKER_00]: do it fall part right there's no way we'll hold the other wax slugs are a thing it's like the other yeah they all yeah they just like take a buck shot or bird shot shotgun shell and poor melted wax and like can't wax yeah can't can't wax and it like cements the babies together interesting okay yeah i'd be curious i feel like like what is it what's the purpose oh it's i don't know just to like make your own slugs or something
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it's supposed to, you know, it's like a frangible round.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it hits something and explodes inside of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gunn people are weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty cool, though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's not cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying there's, I'm just saying they're weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: The car people weird horse girls are weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gunn people in a horse people are kind of the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just different.
[SPEAKER_01]: So would you, you are your list, audio files?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, horse, horse girls.
[SPEAKER_01]: First people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boys, people are more, more, more, more, more.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that horse girls are weird than horse boys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because horse boys are cowboy usually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a stereotype.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I have attachment to the horror scroll world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the horror scroll phenomenon is it's real.
[SPEAKER_02]: And nobody really tends to argue with you about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, there's not as many guys that go and take care of their horses like the girls do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, like I feel like they're kind of the same thing, but there's just something about horse girls.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who who's the horse girl in my family.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that you're catching all the women.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, family, not so you're qualified to speak on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're not just going shade.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's catching random strayers.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is yeah, you've been there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've been in the trenches.
[SPEAKER_01]: A very target.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a very targeted opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll stand by this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The horse girls can be weird or weirder.
[SPEAKER_02]: in the same way that gun, gun guys are weird and car guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that it's like, it really, I think it's like any cryo cooler guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the weirdest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin, I mean, you bro.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, that was very, that's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was very, that was a
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, maybe that's not true, because definitely there are some random hobbies that I'm like, yeah, people are really into it, but they're not known to be weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or even if they're weird, they're not that type of weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I get what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: it's like how much time can you dedicate to like your hobby before it becomes like your identity and I feel like gun guys and horse girls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like isn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, the horse girls they have to dedicate a huge chunk of their time to it because the horse will die otherwise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That happens all the time they die.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do.
[SPEAKER_02]: They like break a lag they die.
[SPEAKER_00]: They they're mildly uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: They die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they actually are like hyper fragile.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't think about it because you think about, you know, if someone who is obsessed with stamps or like painting those, you know, the warhammer figurines, you could go to their house and they're like covered, but everyone I've ever met who collects all those kind of goes, oh, there's that, but anyway, and they kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't, or let's make, oh yeah, I do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine, it's relaxing, and it kind of move on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like kind of what we're saying, but the audio file stuff, where it's like, oh, and this is my, like, your, your stuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna have to get away from that conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there would be a hobby like knitting or cross stitching, you know, like equivalent for, I think knitting and cross stitching though, they're kind of like, they're like an accessory hobby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you can do that while driving.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say say like warhammer.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do warhammer driving.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You probably could.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you watch TV and do our hammer in the same way you can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like passive you're doing both like what's we're what's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's let's to let's say I want to say before I forget what and up one and I don't have it's a hobby, but this one will, you know, gets people go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you just can't get that into a currency or like Bitcoin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, that's worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's actually maybe closest to the bottom of the barrel of acceptable person or what's it like personality tray or what do you call that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like your my identity is crypto.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is very close to bottom of the barrel of like socially acceptable things to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: To be fair, I've never met one of those people, really real life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've talked to people that have mentioned it before, but they haven't like gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, not me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's here?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's worse?
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone that like builds Gundams or someone that does Warhammer?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where would you rate those?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not what's worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the wrong way to enter this conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where would you where would you rank that Gundam or Warhammer?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say a warhammer, I would say is probably they're more well-rounded in general.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think, Nigel?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't really know enough about each.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean, like, why Gundam people, or not?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's kind of like, it's kind of the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like you build the figurines and you paint them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Gundam, to me, like warhammer, there's like there's like more exploration, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like more of like a world-building and narrative.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gundam is like a... And there's some social aspect to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gundam is like, um, more, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, I don't think Gundam would be your only hobby.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would also have, like, a lot of anime figurines.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anime figurines.
[SPEAKER_00]: A bunch of manga.
[SPEAKER_02]: Half naked anime figurines.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, I feel like people that play Warhammer, maybe smell better than people that build Gundam.
[SPEAKER_02]: But not that much better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this, what about magic the gathering?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, maybe maybe we, maybe this is all the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've met a lot of magic players, and I would say, they don't live up to the stereotype.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, words to your tech come from then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't have like, I've never met someone that plays magic that is a part of like the butt cracks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thinky butt cracks there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, is this, I think maybe we're like, I think, so I think magic kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: It used to be more, uh, I guess nerdy, whereas he, it's definitely broken out to the mainstream.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even with like how people collect Pokemon now, where it used to be, oh, yeah, I don't like, I don't like Pokemon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, Pokemon people are worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're kind of like tied in with the T people too.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're below magic, the gathering.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And probably below you, you too, maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I was saying general, all of those hobbies have definitely gotten more mainstream.
[SPEAKER_01]: So probably there's like this core audience that was maybe, you know, the people you describe the stereotype.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then as it expanded, it's just very diluted with just average people who think, you know, cards and other stuff is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: have a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what in your mind would be sort of a a weirder person, a horse girl that just as a horse girl?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: A magic the gathering player or someone that is a horse girl and plays magic together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who do you, which of the three do you think we're normal?
[SPEAKER_00]: the most normal.
[SPEAKER_00]: The combo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: They would be a very interesting cool person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel the same way and I don't really know why.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because what makes anyone weird in, you know, these hobbies.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like think about like, you know, the Bitcoin or the crypto obsessed person.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't be obsessed with crypto and Bitcoin and also just invest normally just like their minds kind of, you know, or all all in one extreme, whereas if you, if you made the same example, you're like someone who does that and then also just something else, you're like, well, then they're not as extreme in that which means they're probably more balanced.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas I find it's like, if they, if they're just doing horse stuff, that's like a hundred percent of their time, they're more likely, you know, go off the edge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas if they're, you know, they're dedicating their time to, uh, playing magic the gathering, you can't go to the either extreme too hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can, maybe, maybe, maybe it just kind of comes across like weirdly well rounded like even other both things that have like a stigma attached to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as you do both of them, it's like, oh, this is a person that's not just obsessed with like one specific circle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, whereas.
[SPEAKER_00]: isolated and makes you think a higher about both hobbies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're like, oh, that's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: For people that like different things and are normal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it doesn't have to be something that you, you have to get like you invest all your time into.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's just
[SPEAKER_01]: The weird thing, I feel like there's always a risk of weirdness if somebody has a singular interest just peering right like they don't have anything else and they're very hyper focused on not even just like one it's like one very narrow niche I think it's it just always is you know bit of a red flag for potential weirdness so the moment you veer away from that.
[SPEAKER_01]: you start to get closer and closer to i guess i would say like the average person who kind of is the weird horizon not the weird well i'm saying a lot of a lot of people just like a lot of stuff right like most people are like oh i i really like you know video games but i also like cooking and i like this i try to like balance my time
[SPEAKER_01]: versus if the person goes, I only like video games.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that's all they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: They spend all their money.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, basically like prioritize it over everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like they're probably not going to be living a very, okay, what if they like they like video games and they like building Gundam figures and they like magic together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that ones a little bit tougher on one side in the middle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they're like too much within the state.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, you could.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say it's worse than all of them put together.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's slightly better, but it's still like not as good as horse magic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, horse magic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the more the more the hobbies have nothing to do with each other and like the social circles don't overlap.
[SPEAKER_01]: the more like well balanced, it's going to feel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what you hear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's story about like some pro athlete, and then they also say like, oh, yeah, I also like this one weird homie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, like my vision or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it a real kill in Warhammer?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I saw that clip.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like if you're super into warhammer and you're like I also like competitively do this sport.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, okay I also competitively play war But it's like if everything's in like the same world like
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of, I mean, kind of what I said about the crypto thing, if the person's like, yeah, I'm obsessed with cryptocurrency.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, but I also do invest like, you know, in the stock market, you're gonna be like, okay, so you're just, it's still the same world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to say that, giving credit to your sister.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you have to hate her because she's your annoying horse girl sister.
[SPEAKER_00]: But.
[SPEAKER_00]: She, I didn't know, but there's actually a lot more that goes on in like the horse world that I didn't know about.
[SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes I guess she does this thing called like cow sorting, which is kind of, it sounds kind of stupid and it seems kind of stupid, but also funny at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like they all go to this arena, horse cow arena and they have like two pens and there's cows and one pen and nothing in the other pen and they have to like get a certain amount of cat like, they all have numbers spray painted on that were something and you have to get them to the other.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be the guy that spray paints the numbers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's like an activity that you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not just taking care of your horse and like, you know, walking on a tray.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, I think that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seems like a fun activity.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that I have, I think I think that's it's very nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she probably gets out of the house more than all of us.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I just probably, I imagine, it's just a lot of effort, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I guess we have weird hobbies too, that are a lot of effort.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're the weird ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think my general.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say, I got to say one nice thing about horse people is that even once the horse dies, they can still turn into glue and me, now you can't do that here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dog food.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not in California.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what your sister said.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't feed horses to dogs and coven yet?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you know, you, it's, uh, yes, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: She said there's no horse slaughter houses in California.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: So they just like have to bring them to the dump.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's disgusting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, imagine go to the dump and you're like, hey, can I take this and sometimes they'll dump a horse there that I thought was dead and they'll come back in the morning and it's like standing up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she said it's happened a few times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that part of the horse obviously was awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just good advice for all you people looking to date other people on dating platforms just put of two hobbies on that are very wide apart from each other like what like fly fishing and throwing water blooms at cars from overpass.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that a hobby?
[SPEAKER_04]: We check it.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is still recording.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was just I thought of that like 10 minutes ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mine's still recording so we can release it as a solo audio.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, imagine, I think I think it's still going.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, like 10 more minutes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to do something kind of sad recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I had to change my gov deal location search only 25 miles because I realized that, like, seeing things that were like far away was bad for my mental health because I would sit there and think about, like, is it worth driving and there's so many things happening right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, because we just did two, two sautons in like two weeks and that's like two, I mean, one of them we were on the East Coast, the other open services goes like a shit ton of stuff in the past, like three months has just been getting pounded and I'm like,
[SPEAKER_02]: and like driving to like LA or like driving any more than like even 15 miles to go get some stupid shit we don't need for a nickel just started to feel like it was it was like dragging me to hell and so I just changed it to 15 miles and or 25 miles and and basically I have stopped going
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you have nothing at the LA Unified School District is showing up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And pro Los Angeles, a lot of good stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good, good, good.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were on the road trip with Nigel and Alex Ernst, I was looking on Gavdeos trying to find stuff in the patterns.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there was good stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, out west.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, like, not really.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Phoenix didn't have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing I found in Phoenix was like a big pile of MREs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like 600 MREs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, we really funny if they bought these, but then like that was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, it was a lot more than that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the palette knows this one palette.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the semi-trust.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did we ever tell you about the semi-truck of MRE's Nigel?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did I ever show this to you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck did I never show it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: So somebody, somebody, a friend sent me a listing to one of the other guv deals, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember what it was going.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like 40,000 MREs that were expiring I think I actually probably about now like December or maybe it was next year or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it was like it was like the end of this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like a FEMA warehouse in like Northern California that they just like always have a supply of stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they get rid of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that they can like, you know, they they like sell it when it still has some remaining life because they know people buy it and resell them and then they buy new inventory so like they always have like a fresh supply emergency rations and and it was like a semi-trucker to them as like a semi-truck full of emories and.
[SPEAKER_02]: they go for like a 12 pack us like $70 or something on Amazon.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so like, oh man, you could like actually sell like a couple hundred thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Worth of these memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: Something like 30,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 30,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like 36 pallets or something freaking insane like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and and so I like I was like emailed them and I'm like, hey, like what's sort of the time frame for picking them up, but we did because it was like There was before open sauce.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you were going to get like sell them and it was awesome or like give them out as meals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so I'm I'm like sitting there thinking because it was like I remember seeing it was like there was like three days left.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like $600 and I was like I how much money is this going to go up to like a couple of thousand bucks or something
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'm like sitting there like I, you know, was like researching like transport costs like getting quotes and stuff like that and then the day of the auction, the last day came and I, you know, very, really, very, really, what's happened because thank God, I didn't like, you know when something sort of just goes, it like leaves your head and you don't have to think about anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: the price shot up to like, you know, the last minute up like $16 or $20,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, thank God.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even have to, yeah, not even in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: God over like $2,000.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, no way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And hell, am I doing this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it did give me more confidence that my original plan, like, was maybe right, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I sell like $100,000 or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could.
[SPEAKER_02]: If someone's willing to pay 20 grand and transport them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because preppers aren't going to care, like if you're, if it's in a few years expired.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think they have like a shelf life of 10 years already.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's another, you know, I think they last for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're in the middle of it, you know, you're not going to care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if, oh, yeah, no, like, I don't even know why FEMA is really selling them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's because nobody's going to complain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: If the government's coming around handing out MR. Is you're not going to say, oh, I'm excuse me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they got full rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you missed out.
[SPEAKER_02]: on the literal, literal semi-truck full of MREs.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, 83 feet long, 87 feet wide.
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I always eight feet tall at any other point in my life?
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have seriously considered it because I'm like, I'm sitting there like, there is no way that you could not get rid of these in a week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you were stuck with a bunch of MREs and you like couldn't actually sell them for what you thought you could you could just put a listing on Facebook marketplace saying like free MREs and people would be like driving from states over to poll like you know hundreds of them yeah and even selling them for a dollar each you think your money back you make your money back and and they would be gone instantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: floor to ceiling wall to wall of meals ready, which is insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you could live your, you could, you could eat it for the rest of your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great question.
[SPEAKER_02]: How long?
[SPEAKER_02]: How long would that many memories last year?
[SPEAKER_00]: 30 or 36, I was going to say yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: was 40th I can't remember exactly it was like yeah I think it was that man yeah 30,000 I think so I'm sure I will this is like 30 we'll do 30,000 and how many calories is that that's 10,000 days it actually 10,000 days well three meals a day I think it's near like pretty calorie heavy to oh my god is it actually so it might only be like 30,000 like days it might be yeah actually 27 years of food
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, is that actually a symmetric flammaries would last you, you can eat those for 30 years?
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you ration them, you're all life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, is this, are we doing this right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this actually like, if your garage was filled with memories from Florida ceiling wall to wall, it was a two-car garage?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you could live off of that for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that right, am I, am I like, I don't remember exactly how much was in the semi truck is probably in our desk.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like 900, I think it was like 900 memories per pallet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it was like 30 something pallets, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you ate three a day, that's 10,000 days.
[SPEAKER_02]: 365 is 27 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nigel, how many calories are in an MRE?
[SPEAKER_01]: just look this up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, a normal memory.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they were called, um, just kind of like, they weren't the special ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't the like survival.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's at 1300.
[SPEAKER_00]: So two of them a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: So two a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, like, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, wait, wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: So three a day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's like 60 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see average life spent in America.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going down.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, let's say like 70 sure 70 something to 70 and 80.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's a 60 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: You, your entire life, consume two semi trucks worth of memories.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine how sick of that shit you would get after like a week and then
[SPEAKER_00]: They would probably kill you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You think so?
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm too much sodium to much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Too much of a lot of things not enough of something else.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're wondering how much like you piss in your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, you don't figure that out.
[SPEAKER_02]: How much you, how much you, you know, I could fill up two semi trucks with plastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: You think?
[SPEAKER_02]: You probably more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how much man we should we should.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like all sorts of things that like when you die once a week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like there's a scoreboard or some kind of like,
[SPEAKER_02]: How many, you know, I don't really care.
[SPEAKER_02]: The poop facts don't really.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not really my thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't really have anything to do with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want it all.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the day when everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would be a lot more motivated, you know, in life.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many calories did I eat?
[SPEAKER_00]: There was like a scoreboard at the end of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: How many, uh, like maybe how many times did I chew?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it millions?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a new issue with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I always thought it was weird just simply, you know, the recommendation whether like, oh, you should do like at least 6,000 or 10,000 steps a day or whatever, I was just think that that's a lot of movement.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've had like in general to think that like my, my leg joint can tolerate 6,000 actions.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think they can.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they just explode when you're like.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't mean like you do that every single day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say you, let's say you walked.
[SPEAKER_01]: from age 20 to 80.
[SPEAKER_01]: You walked 10,000 steps a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: How far?
[SPEAKER_00]: You could walk to the moon, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because like, if you, you could run 10 miles a day, and that's, you can walk like 20 miles a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: So wait, I'm a girl.
[SPEAKER_01]: You 60 years, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's 21,900 days at like 10,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Three miles a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you got, so you could, you could, you know, slap two hundred and nineteen million steps.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know why you're like a knees go up and be there like those fluid sex.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's it's not it's not it's like two wear services like any like machine you would build it's like a Hopefully a replenishing like lubrication.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why it works right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy on the stupid old cells died juice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah inside you didn't turn into new need juice man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that what happens?
[SPEAKER_02]: They like explode.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think those are two different things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I know that like that 10,000 year clock project the Jeff Bezos thing that I've seen a bunch of my old job like That is a huge problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean lot of stuff is a huge problem, but like trying to get something to like last 10s of moons of where cycles that you can't use lubrication or anything I it's all dry.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like not it's not impossible.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Practical.
[SPEAKER_00]: The 10,000 year clock versus one, the humble raccoon that gets caught in the years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: One grain of sand that came out of the, you know, the raccoon that eaten some dirt and then I got caught in the gears and then it decomposed and that grain of sand like I was like perfectly in the gut that was between the teeth as it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it destroys all the wear surfaces.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, we have some of the Q and A in the public one.
[SPEAKER_02]: They get us like, kind of, sometimes it gives you topics.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something wrong with you guys on Patreon.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I love it though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not afraid to ask questions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it gives us a shield like, oh, like they're asking.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to answer.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the box in in school elementary school or middle school with a sex head during sex head, they like put a box out that you could like submit questions to because you're like a shamed of asking them, you're like, they're not real.
[SPEAKER_02]: Raise your hand and be like, you know, I have like, is it possible to have two penises?
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, but like everyone on our discrets are like, they just they don't even need a box.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just ask it with their names and everything is crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no shame no shame all right, see you guys over there I love you now Yo, I guess he's brain twitch