[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, hello.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, God, you gotta give us a heads up.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you doing next time?
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to this very special episode of the Safety Third podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, is this, oh, God, the new lights?
[SPEAKER_03]: You can see the new lights, but this episode doesn't have the new lights.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait, oh, God.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, there's Nigel in here, but Nigel, this is fucked up.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is gonna get really bad in a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are you here?
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you here to sell us?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm here saying out.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just flew out here, you know, just to, you know, these are good chairs.
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw you guys sit in them.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to test them out.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're doing a safety third live show in Norwalk, Connecticut.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kevin won't be there, and Nigel might not be there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be me, Michael and Alan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is Kevin not there?
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess they're gonna win it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Trust me, I still don't love to get out of it, but we're filming a road trip show with Nigel right now, which I think we're going to keep talking about because this is like another thing that we recorded that John made us record and so I'm trying to convince Nigel to come to Norwalk with me afterwards, it's a strong maybe, it's a Friday the 24th of year in the area and one come will be at the NHRL building and 53rd live tickets are like it's cheap what 30 bucks or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see there.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, I think this is a little bit of a bait and switch because Nigel's here to film a sauce plus show we're doing a road trip show with Alex Ernst and Nigel.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not this episode of the podcast doesn't have Nigel live in it, but it is Nigel virtual, but now that Nigel's here, we thought we would tell you something very, very important about sauce plus.
[SPEAKER_03]: which has a slowly growing, but I think pretty impressive catalog of content, and not just about to do the opposite, you're adding something really, really bad to the other content.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you haven't seen it yet, but yeah, it's not any bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never heard you talk this negatively, but one of your own videos, a new now read video that's on sauce plus right now, but not on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the reason you're doing that is not because you want to help sauce plus, but because
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's a really bad video and no, no, I see you want them to like proof.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you have to watch it and leave comments.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you, I mean, if you leave like a hundred positive comments on it, I think you can give them to the confidence.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just don't have the confidence to make it public yet, uh, but yeah, I need, uh, I need to, people need to tell me with the cringe parts, most of just that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I don't know if you want them to play with.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the first video you've done that is you get to like live in our world.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like I'm like you're you're not you're not doing like you're like chemistry It it is I guess you could argue it's not even chemistry.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's it's it's it's
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I've done a few videos in the past where it ends up being like, I mean, should I just say what it is?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can throw it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's literally nothing that is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, making, I made a massive liquid nitrogen generator.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's technically chemistry because you know, nitrogen is a chemical, and you know, phase changes and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is mechanical engineering.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's, it's, it's, yeah, it's technician.
[SPEAKER_04]: It just might cause like chemistries everywhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: So just it's kind of funny, like in the past where it's like, it's supposed to be a chemistry channel, but, you know, there's a few, there have been a few projects in the past right to rationalize the chemistry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, even the bulletproof wood one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, I mean, there were some chemistries somewhere in there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Along with the chemicals.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this one, it was just like, this part, video, like an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the only thing you've ever been?
[SPEAKER_01]: 25 minutes?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can't even think this is insane.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did I remember, like, I dream of the days of 25 minute video?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you should, you should make that a reality.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so much work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even, you've been like, you think you're traumatized.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: This one was because it was also different because like after this one, I kind of talked about it a bit in the video.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of going into a realm of where a lot of the projects after this involve a lot more engineering stuff, but I'm not used to putting those types of videos together.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm used to kind of like starting with one thing and then, you know, doing chemistry to it and then you get to an end product, whereas some of these videos
[SPEAKER_04]: there's like five different things I did and you have to kind of like assemble them all into a coherent thing and it happened over two years so that I'm like trying to run collect I'm going through all the footage remembering the things that happened and it's just like if I start working on a video and then two years go by I basically throw the video in the trash.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway you guys have a bus to catch we have a bus don't
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, you're not taking my school bus.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: The damage of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you guys want to support sauce plus and yeah, you know, why don't even say support if you want good stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's how many shows are up right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got security to have a chef.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to say one thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I should say that I'm coming.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, the this video on the most I feel the weirdest about no, I want to say honestly, just say just a reason I'm saying, but but I do feel
[SPEAKER_04]: that it's the most, it's the most, it's the most, no, no, I'm saying, I put the most you don't have to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I put the most effort into it, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I do feel that in terms of like the skill and my like, you know, yeah, the skill took to put it together.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I am proud.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very smart is what he's trying to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I said I'm proud of putting it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, to be dumb, but now I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not, I'm just not sure if the end product is good.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like when it's done, you're like, hey, I did the thing I didn't think I could do.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's about this journey.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't know if it's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: If speaking of journey, you have a road to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: All I know is that if you think the video is bad, there's a chance.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's only two options.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see that the best video you've ever made.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or genuinely, the fucking worst video you've ever made.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's no end to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I went from one point of going, this is the best video ever made to I can't post.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is horrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: That happened with this amount of three days.
[SPEAKER_04]: not much change.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can be the judge for yourself by going to sauceplus.com right now and the video will be up for like on a little less than a week exclusive to the unsolved.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Until you build up the courage to post it publicly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And YouTube channel.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you want early access to that, if you want scared of the coyote, if you want to head a chef, if you want the cabin show, which is coming out, I think, probably pretty soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: What else is up down right now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're working on a bunch of shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good
[SPEAKER_03]: like how many how many hours like actually like just original shows got to be like approaching 40 hours.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, full-time job to watch it is a lot of people working on this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you want to support an indie development production team making fun stuff that is I would say like a little bit kind of better than YouTube.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's like YouTube.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm kind of watching the
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's stuff that you like the YouTube vibe.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's YouTube, but you we don't you don't have to like worry about titles and thumbnails like basically like that's what I the hardest part of my videos on YouTube is like everything is guided by titles and thumbnails and sauce plus lets us work on like the content and the ideas without having to worry about
[SPEAKER_03]: making a title and thumbnail that won't.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just conceptually sometimes, you just cannot make certain types of videos because people will not click on the money too, but with a platform like this, we can make a type of content that is good, but would never survive when you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's more the creativity side.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think is like you can explore more.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not like we're gonna make a future film next year with Nigel, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a horror movie with a W or an age.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, age.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, technically one of them has a W and it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ooh.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, fussblast.com and get back in the screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: The screen and the channel.
[SPEAKER_03]: What a Bob.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you Kevin making that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Excellent Bob.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I listened to that on repeat 12 hours a day.
[SPEAKER_03]: That short five seconds.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my alarm in the morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's traumatizing sound.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were here, like, you know, your brain is really weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: They smile at us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Were you like, here?
[SPEAKER_03]: a sound and you like there's like this little like your brain's going to predict things all the time, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And so when you hear you like hear something that like in that like 200 milliseconds your brain starts leaning towards like an alarm or some weird sound that's like yeah, recessed deep into the folds of your smooth brain or like you feel your pocket vibrate and you're just like yeah, but you brushed up again something right it shift yeah like just caught on your underwear right yeah like what is that?
[SPEAKER_03]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is horrifying, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's horrifying.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah, actually like what's going on in my head that like led me to believe this weird sound or like voice it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know when you're like, you're all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's people I think living in the dirt under my house.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get this one where it's a video game that I play.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the intro music.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like one part of the song that sounds like the discord notification.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like every time it loops back around I'm like, oh, and then I'm like, oh, got me again.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just like some little due to the like a alarm clock you were here like somebody I always use the default alarm clock.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you what's your alarm clock?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nigel you frozen He's fucking frozen are you here Nigel you were awfully quiet
[SPEAKER_00]: 1080 and everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: We were having problems and then it seemed like it was working fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we just rolled it because they're terrifying.
[SPEAKER_03]: We went live and Nigel went they have to pay off dollar for every megabit internet there and a turf.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like I use a default alarm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like my phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like I don't I don't I don't not know how to change my alarm.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know how to change the alarm sound on my phone because I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, this is the zoom and the face traffic.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in the walls.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still kind of the face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of works.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, your face looks like mega JPEG.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is going to be like a screenshot in a. I'm on my phone like image compression.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on my phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like his internet has to go through U.S. Customs before it gets here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on with that guy?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gone again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and he's gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just by playing your alarm tone, you can just like, you know, cause PTSD to have the audience with a thing if they have Android or iPhone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, do you fall like do you think you're a learner now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no, it's it's default.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's radar.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't even, I like actually don't even, I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't tell you what my alarm sounds like.
[SPEAKER_03]: All I know is like, what, what is?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_03]: A back.
[SPEAKER_03]: your back again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look who's back.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not for long.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on my phone internet right now because my ISP is so bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, what happened was I did just disable my ethernet because I kept trying to switch to the non functional internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you just have like a big like internet.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's worse.
[SPEAKER_04]: We pay like 10 bucks a month extra.
[SPEAKER_04]: So for quote, always up business internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that it will auto switch when we lose interest.
[SPEAKER_03]: 5G or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, how do we lose internet?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: How do we lose internet though?
[SPEAKER_04]: So we lost internet once for like an hour.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I contacted the ISP and they're like, no, no, it's just they keep telling me it's my sister.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you have, they go, oh, you have a server.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, oh, it's you.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like, it's not me because ubiquity is telling me.
[SPEAKER_04]: It receives no signal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we even went into, they go, well, I don't see anything in our system.
[SPEAKER_04]: I logged in, which is like this stupid, great, we do.
[SPEAKER_04]: The system, you can't connect to it by a wire.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to log in through the internet to your system.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have no internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you even no not not not the unifies me?
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a kind of rouba some HP thing where it's like You have to log in through the internet.
[SPEAKER_04]: So when you don't have internet, you're like, I don't know how I look at this But I found on it that the internet dropped and I had to like convince the guys Oh, I do see it now that is our fault then the technician came they sent a technician the technician looks at everything goes
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, everything looks okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it's your server.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, no, it's not the server.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's such a cop out to because built like, yeah, it's immediately.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the first, the first barrier they put up is it's your equipment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you're not renting their router and or modem, flash router combo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, then they don't have to do any work.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just like, oh, sorry, you're not using our system and therefore it is your technology.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It just kills me because I'm like, the unify, it doesn't do any like, authentication or anything with their servers.
[SPEAKER_04]: It just either does or does not receive I signal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so it'll tell me on the thing, we've lost signal to like their server.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I even timed it perfectly in their box when there was like an error and the guys will not still yours.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh my god, you know, I think we probably talked about last time we had major internet problems here, which like I was so mad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I treat like all of these like bureaucratic walls the same way where you just bulldozed through like, oh, yes, soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: that every step of the way, they're going to tell you that it's your fault and I tell you that we have to send a tech out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like preliminary like do everything like remove every roadblock like unplugging Kevin's motive and plugging it into my fiber.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And be like, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we checked a second when it didn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we do all that before hand to just be lying straight to them sending a technician out as fast as possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because otherwise, it'll do this thing where it's like, okay, we'll try this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, no, no, it was working and now it's not working.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing has changed.
[SPEAKER_03]: You definitely unplugged it somewhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a tech unplugged it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then you ask them like has a tech been in the neighborhood recently and like, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do not have access to this information like you fucked you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, fuck yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is your job, but like I need this because there's no internet coming out of the fiber that there's no there's no light.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, don't worry, we'll pro rate the like one day, you know, whatever the bill, I think like, you know, here's like $100 a month.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, it's just what 100 divided by 30, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, really, like, thank you for the $10.
[SPEAKER_00]: It turned out it was in the neighborhood, and they unplugged your internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can plug in like fiber ports, somebody else's fiber.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's only so many ports in that box.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the first thing they'll tell you is like, oh, it's maybe your
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, rage, what you need those in each other way, I'm off coming on Wi-Fi now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have other ISPs near burn in my sweet 5G no, so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure, it answered now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're basically right now, it looks better than Wi-Fi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, I, this is like been the source of rage for a while, because at our old office, we had, um, well, we have different companies here, but like, we had bell.
[SPEAKER_04]: So do you have more than one in front of an office?
[SPEAKER_04]: Technically, yes, but our old office, we basically had the two main providers, Bell and Videotron, where one's cable, one is DSL, or fiber.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we were getting at one point cheap and we're getting like the gigabit line.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we got so used to that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I guess I don't know for every reason, I don't know why we had that in that building.
[SPEAKER_04]: We come to this building and they go, all you have is cable if you want like the DSL,
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's like 25 megabits download and five megabits a second upload.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't like, I was like, you can't do anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where is video Tron is a gigabit down, but because it's cable, they cap it at 50 up.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just kind of like, not good upload speeds.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just been, everything's a scam.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's something that makes it a scam.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why want to pay for something?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's an institution that's taking over our fucking lives.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's 20, 20 by off.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's 25.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck mega business.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're still doing this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But through your two digit megabit internet, that cost actual money in the United States.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it was 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are they settling people?
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, it's really like five hardwares.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think my, yeah, my cell plan literally is a two gig plan.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've had it for like 10 plus years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I get a warning every time I'm traveling is like you're approaching the the two gig limit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like everything on the internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Has become more bloated websites when you go to them you go to a website dot com and a fucking video loads and starts playing Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my band with and I only get two gigs of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can you blow through two gigs in like half a day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you're not at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the banner is a jiff, but it's not a jiff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a bunch of images that keep loading over and over and over.
[SPEAKER_04]: To be fair, the data you get now is kind of crazy like my phone plan.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think was like, I think I have like 10 or 20 gigs.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe 20 and I just called to upgrade it because I was like looking maybe if I get into phone and they go, oh, your plans old.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can just match it at the same price and you'll get like, I think it was 50 gigs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Same price.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, I'll call you back with a better deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: He calls back.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can actually just do 100 gigs at the same price.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, okay, data is not free.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fucking free.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely get every time I go over my two gigabyte.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me know happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing, nothing, keep fucking working.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you, 18, 18.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like back in the day when you had 3G, they would do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're like, it would actually stop working.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now, it just keeps working.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was more expensive.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like the code to stop it from working.
[SPEAKER_00]: They throttle your video streaming anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a good amount of 4G.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it's a lot of them say you get up to like 30 gig 5G and then you go down to 4G unlimited.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's funny if it went down to 4G I'm pretty sure my phone would start working better because like, oh, yeah, it's all the problem that I'm using too much data when I need to use it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when I need to use it in your network is fucking ass in the middle of town because your coverage sucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's my fucking problem too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why is it always my problem?
[SPEAKER_00]: Even here like the cell receptions really bad so it takes forever to load something Do you stay at one in fucking low?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I know why isn't there like a low load date of mode or like a low band with website option, you know You're just loads the tattoos you get double fucked in home Depot, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, because I don't know what they made the building out of Like chicken water so many yeah, okay, sorry go you go you're in home Depot, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, what do I need?
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you need a home deeper?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's in the wrong fucking spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, uh, the wax rings for a toilet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I should talk about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a fucking gross story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you go to plumbing, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: You go to toilet out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's like some other bullshit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll, there's like fucking three different aisles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The third one that you would think it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, what do you do when you're looking for something at home?
[SPEAKER_03]: Deepa, get on your phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: You try to find somebody.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, fuck that.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's nobody in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't go to the self-checkout register.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin, Kevin, the warrior.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's a computer in the war.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Answering your question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go on your part.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're the employees ask you to get a skew number.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm supposed to know the skew numbers.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have a computer.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't want to get a fucking paradise.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Home Depot is like a fairytale.
[SPEAKER_00]: They tell you where everything is clearly.
[SPEAKER_03]: You walk in, you go to the plumbing out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck me, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there the PVC flange that you glue to the three inch thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: But the rings aren't there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you go on your fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Think I'll, they're in the sink, I own.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you go on your fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you type in wax ring, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chitter ring, shit wax.
[SPEAKER_03]: Home Depot.com.
[SPEAKER_03]: Does a load.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my fucking God.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the already made of a master Kevin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, and it's you actual well, you do that master car like they made it so shitty.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to share on the website is you never should.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw a guy on Reddit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Build his own fucking home Depot like bootleg website that uses their API and it's like 10 times faster.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: To motivate a dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so you walk into the building.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a fairytale kid that the cell service in town is shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's already past.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's poop.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's leaking out of the wax ring that is whatever 5G, my 5G toilet.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you walk into a fairytale kid.
[SPEAKER_03]: So your shitty data becomes even shidier.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you use the shidiest website of any of the hardware stores that have a website.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it crawls and you don't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to like go on the connect to the wife.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like authenticate the device all over you know I am at my point in my life at this point I'm in home deep looking for a wax delivering can you guess where I am in my life.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking for a wax delivering at home people where am I in my life.
[SPEAKER_03]: covered in poop.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is shit leaking out of the toilet my bathroom.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm at.
[SPEAKER_03]: You think that a fucking shitty cell plan is making my day better.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the home depot shitty websites making my day better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck you home depot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fix your fucking website.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, put the wax rings and the plumbing aisle.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, so I, I, I, I think I have to educate you on how I'm deeper.
[SPEAKER_03]: My toilet was like, I, I helped you out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I shouldn't have asked him like, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to I want to help you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to help you first of all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I went piss the other day and I like look to the right and it's like there's like a liquid coming out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not good.
[SPEAKER_04]: When, when you go to home deeper, the first thing you do is you search Google.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Plus home depot, you never search their website or did you're going to make it worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: worse.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you search fine, but then you search home depot through Google and you find the items your knowledge.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you check the Isle it's in and you go to that Isle, you never ever try to find it yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my entire story.
[SPEAKER_01]: On to the website.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't use their website.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't have died.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'll try my fucking last round.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, his internet is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, you're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Google messes with you sometimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might get the wrong store like for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we do that in my personal reason, think we're in downtown LA and like load the bear inventory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, it'll consistently pick stores like 100 miles away.
[SPEAKER_03]: How the fuck does that work?
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I like this?
[SPEAKER_03]: The 5G here is so bad that I'm actually picking up sell towers like south of Los Angeles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're like Mexican radio isn't regulated so you get all the stations of here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe it's because like in the past, I clicked like don't give my exact location to home to you for something and maybe he's back.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't know what internet I'm on right now, but I think it says I think you're on the earth.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It says video Tron is that video Tron you look clear and crisp and sharp and handsome.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I was a kid, and I lived up by Chicago.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, you know, we had dial up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then the next upgrade was this like wireless internet that was being from the Sears Tower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or everybody had to have like a satellite dish up on their roof or like an internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had to point towards the Sears Tower.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's probably pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it was like four megabytes up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when was this though?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, late 90s.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this was an upgrade from dial up.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was way better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was called like,
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not 5D.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like line of sight.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, 1 or C3 internet, something weird like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we did.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like the data transmission for the stages, for the reason everything was beamed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it wasn't great because it was still like the 90s.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like if you're actually like, I think there's a lot of places here where the cost to run internet is like going to be in like the 80,000 dollar range because they are not close enough to do that last, you know, like whatever they'll do like X amount of feet for free, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like that's how they do it is they just get these like they beam it, they like put a thing on a tower here and you put a thing on the house and you just go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's right there and it's like pretty fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Reminds me of like the, you know, the old like microwave transmission towers that they used to use the long lines they called it, they're huge like microwave transmitters.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would like bounce like internet like in phone data across the country, and you can still kind of like find them like in a line, you know, like across the country.
[SPEAKER_00]: They still have some of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the ultimate 5G, yeah, like a trail dead birds and with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I, I should have saved the, the guys website was either website or an app.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could find it now, but like the Home Depot, like the rebuilding of a Home Depot website.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, that loads much faster.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, because you're on Amazon right, like you can either use that or, you know, like petition to have your cell carrier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, make better.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you speak of technology?
[SPEAKER_03]: That pisses me off.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's like a lot of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got a notification on Fusion 360.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, which for those of you who don't know if you're 60 is is the cat software I use because it's cheaper than solid works, not because I like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, only 600 a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, actually, can I look, I now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just remind me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to go off on something else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I realize I've been paying for a month.
[SPEAKER_04]: They subscribed for a few.
[SPEAKER_04]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_04]: One second.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you just have a lot of things bottled up?
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like constipated.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, that just reminds me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still have, I had to get AC service one time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they basically, like, called me into signing up, which looks like monthly service subscription.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really a truck to show up?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, it doesn't show up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I'm sign up for this service fee, or this monthly recurring cost, it doesn't cost me anything when a tech comes out to the house.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, no, and I forgot to cancel it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And every time I remember, it's like, it's like five o'clock in their clothes.
[SPEAKER_00]: kidding me dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got to tell me.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I forgot that the fuck doesn't even tell me one reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't even tell me it was a subscription.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just said, yeah, if you go to sauceplus.com right now and make an account and you get any free credits or you only want to month pay for it and then fucking cancel it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I do and that's what you should do, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be Kevin, what the fuck is serious?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been like five months now and it's 35 bucks a month.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's like, you know, 150, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's different.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't actually fix our condition.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they came out and told me that it would be 1,200 bucks to recharge my AC.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like give me a break.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know how much a bottle of protein is?
[SPEAKER_03]: $50.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't put propane in your fish.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, but you could.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I like, man, I guess now I got to figure out where I moved my fusion.
[SPEAKER_03]: My, I got two fusion griots.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's like 200 bucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, I kind of cut off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, well, no, it was like 80 bucks a month for fusion 360, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, I should switch to the yearly plan, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is the first, I'm just the first complaint, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I got two complaints.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you reminded me of the second one that I'm talking about right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm like, all right, I'm going to be responsible and I'm going to pay the yearly subscription because even though that's like $600 and that sucks ass, I use enough of the things that is paid on fusion that it's worth doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I needed a feature which is why I ended up paying for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I had it for free version of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I wrote that for so long and then it just like becomes a huge burden.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it used to be way more open like back when we first got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, you know, you could use those features and it's like you can do whatever you want as long as you're making less than a million dollars a year, which all of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: How much money is not red make.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or it's like, he will be naming you that off of 3D printed or like 3D models stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I, I, I, I tried upgrade to yearly, right, because what, like, in what world can I not go into my subscription and change it from monthly to yearly?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, apparently this world.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I'm like sitting there trying to figure out how to upgrade my subscription in Fusion 360 and it like won't let.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I, I messaged Chasseport and I'm like, hey, I'm trying to be a responsibly responsible.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to pay for a yearly subscription set of monthly because you save like whatever, probably two months or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, oh, sorry, but you're like on a legacy plan and you can't upgrade.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, okay, like, what's the difference between a legacy plan and a new plan?
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like cancel my monthly subscription right now, like am I going to get like a shitty or product when I renew it am I going to get less of something and and and she's like no and I'm like okay how do I switch and she's like well you need to just cancel your current plan and then when it ends then you can renew it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't make any sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?
[SPEAKER_01]: Just let me pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like no difference.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, that's my first grip.
[SPEAKER_03]: The second grip is that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got an notification saying that the fusion 360 is going to stop working on Windows 10 at the beginning next year.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference?
[SPEAKER_00]: Stop, I mean, it's a, right, it's going to stop working because it's all in the cloud.
[SPEAKER_03]: They'll just, right, they will stop it from they're like, I think they just, they will not let you run it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, it's because Windows 10 support is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we don't live and doesn't support us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing but problems every time I upgrade to Windows 11, something breaks, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, really.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I cannot get like it's literally bricked to my laptop.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like most Arduino's are like FTDR, like the OG Arduino's FTDR sometimes like the Uno has like another at mill processor on it to do the bootloading in USB shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so there's like a knockoff chip.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the CH34 year something's Chinese like USB to serial conversion chip that has a different driver than the other ones.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you have to like go and find it so it's a huge pain in the ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's you know, if you want an Arduino for $4 or what are they cost now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like $6 to be $3 with the fuck happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and it's like, I cannot get it to work on my Windows 11 laptop.
[SPEAKER_03]: I cannot get it to work.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like just working.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fucking work.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know all the drivers that I have.
[SPEAKER_03]: The network run like the laser software and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just breaks doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I'm sitting here and be like, OK, cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I have to use Windows 11.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even though it doesn't fucking work for half of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Should I need?
[SPEAKER_03]: And now Fusion is going to, like, audience is going to force me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Windows is going to.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like raging and then in my computer died, which I don't know, maybe it was a good thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me time to sit back and relax and not be on my computer and turns out my M.2.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've been going through it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been you just had one of those weeks where like you go to solve a problem and four more problems happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: This has been like, yeah, that's kind of been my life for like six months.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, my, I'm glad I'm not alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: So my, my hard drive died, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, the computer just stopped turning on and I'm like, okay, like, this is a nightmare.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to reinstall windows and I was like, wait, what if I didn't reinstall it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I installed a boot to a boot to it instead which I like I really like honestly right now I'm kind of just mad at operating systems like the big you know big OS Yeah, because it's you know a they're trying to force me on to windows 11, which I really don't like And then you have everyone like you know, it's just like socks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I fucking hate it You're like the start menu on windows and you click this start button and like it pops up and it's a bunch of just like trash
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like actually true.
[SPEAKER_00]: The new windows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't use it anymore at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you don't use it yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, the start menu now is different.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like a search bar also.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you click that and it opens up a whole different menu.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the other thing I learned too is like reading reddit stuff is like when you click the start menu, like a start button, you'll notice it actually is like pretty slow to open.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because apparently it's like, it's a booting some like, what's like, real like a program.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like getting some interface, like it's not just like a part of, I don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I can be here to make this claim.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like way slower than I should be.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I installed Linux, a boot to a boot, a boot to, um, and honestly it's fucking safe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like the desktop environment and, you know, like just like the terminal like chat GPT honestly like chat GPT plus a terminal and Linux, you feel like God like computer God and so I like but installing stuff like it's honestly easier dude you just can say install this and it just does it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the last time I tried it, it was not hard, but it was kind of like, if you didn't install something for like two weeks, you don't look up to Tory.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm telling you, like it's like Linux plus chat GPT is you can absolutely stay away from.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's in there's so like, you know, it like Linux is so bad and hard to use.
[SPEAKER_03]: that catchy pt has like gigabytes and maybe tear petabytes of data of like please god help me with Linux to train off of.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like it has consistently knocked it out of the park when trying to do stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what I was able to do, like you were like how to bum hard drive or like a bum SD card.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're like oh shit, all my videos on here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I remember one time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you try to do like a disc recovery thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do Linux, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like built in or something like, but you can you basically like there's so many free tools and it's so easy like there's so much information online that you can just like I basically say like hey I have this drive it's like won't run like you can't open it on windows I can't access any of my files that were on it even I don't keep that many files on my my boot drive and I basically was able to mount it as a read only drive and then a Linux didn't give a shit about it having you know any sort of like being another user's data
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it just let me go into the drive.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was able to pull all the files off of it, through Linux.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I reinstall this, and I boot, dual boot.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like honestly, I feel like I should just not allow myself to use Windows for like, oh my.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And just like have to stay inside of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, sorry, I'm looking up another gripe that I have about fusion, which is, uh, okay, what's the whole thing assemblies?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what's the difference between the free version and the paid version?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the free version is the same as the paid version, but they torture you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's exactly it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you pay 1500 bucks a year for this dialogue option to come up.
[SPEAKER_00]: This says you're not a pro member.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we only allow you to have 10 open files at a time.
[SPEAKER_00]: You still have all your files, but you can only have 10 files like active.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like deactivating.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a pain in the back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's not really even that big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is annoying.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's annoying.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing is that you get free simulations.
[SPEAKER_00]: But only, like, like, like, like, constant, like, stress of the simple meal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, only that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only one you get for free.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything else is insanely expensive.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to do like a generative design, kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, you can definitely run that on your fucking computer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know why you have to pay for cloud credits.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's $300 for a for a hundred tokens.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like I specifically bought I built my computer several years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 24 core thread ripper like yeah specifically for this shit And it could handle it but it costs 300 bucks for a hundred tokens, and if you do like a generative thing or like what's another one that costs a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, modeling Rendering and modeling the heat flow through electron yes, so you have your PCB it'll tell you like what components are going to get hot And do that it'll cost you like $40.
[SPEAKER_00]: 50 dollars the like trash results
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then guess what, something's wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to redo it another four dollars.
[SPEAKER_03]: I accidentally rendered a, like a, like, I don't remember what the hell is trying to render, but like I was like rendering the credits don't roll over either.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was rendering something, and it like defaulted to cloud rendering, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: to like generate like a render image of and so it didn't like I don't even know how the credit score because all I know is like whenever I do anything it just sort of works.
[SPEAKER_00]: They got they used to get it like a certain amount of free credits per month but they got rid of that and now there's a new you've to pick credits that work across all auto dust.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah you guys suck.
[SPEAKER_00]: I.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really rendered it you guys are running our spots, you know, literally now I marked I like worked I like dude I'd wait and talk to you on a desk right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: They told me that they were going to like, oh, we'll give you a free version And you can like promote it in your videos and then they never followed through.
[SPEAKER_00]: They never did that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like ended up in a Slack channel for like creators using fusion for like feedback and stuff like that And like they gave me like a free license for it and I like I came in and I gave feedback about like the spline tool and sketching
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, when you're drawing a spline and you hit escape, I think I've complained about this, like it cancels the whole spine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you're drawing a line, which you go like, line, it continues the line.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you just keep clicking and it like keeps drawing the line.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Escape.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just cancels the current line that you're stretching.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to like go back and hit the check mark that's on the spline.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the spline and the line tools are effectively
[SPEAKER_03]: But when you escape the spline will come into your mind and the line will only delete whatever you have not clicked and pinned down in the guy got like mad at me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's like, what are you trying to be and I was just sitting there like, okay, what the fuck I'm just giving you like my honest feedback about something that's like frustrating and like would make people's lives better if you fixed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think I think they may.
[SPEAKER_03]: might have kicked me out or at some point I was like fuck this like you know left door.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I kind of just like, you know, begrudgingly use Fusion 360 on freecat is the open source.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've tried for that a couple years ago and it just it like didn't tickle the itch and made more itch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like you had to learn.
[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like learning a whole new program to broke it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just super easy, which is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like intuitive almost like they have everything you need kind of right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Layed out, you don't have to dig for anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Except the cloud, you have to connect to the cloud.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I never finished the cloud credit thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the render on my computer, when I realized I was rendering on the cloud, it was like 10 times faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember, yeah, you used to be able to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like at that moment in time, I rented on the computer after realizing I rented on the cloud and the one on the computer was like instant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, really?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I, I, I like a bit computer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is the right way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like 24 core 128 gigabytes of RAM.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's literally like I've done.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like fucking billion point cloud bullshit for open sauce, like from my opinion like I was like I've like beaten like living crap out of it and so you know, not being able to like render things or do these because like all this FIA stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: The finite element now says like all these strain you know stress strain like little spring spring.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like generate the mesh, then it has to calculate up onto matrices and like what are matrices is like a bunch of just parallel fucking calculations and so you have.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like a GPU or a CPU like a big CPU like you can just do a bunch of things at the same time and then it's like, no, you have to use the cloud.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if I'm doing something with like a bunch of curves and lines in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I watch fusion says like calculating calculating calculating and I open up the task manager and I look at it and it's only using like 20% of my CPU.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What, but then people online said, oh, it's because like you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: that operation and parallel has to all be on one court, which is kind of annoying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, some stuff like works better, but they also just, you know, they just don't they, like, well, if you, if they don't have to make it better, they won't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is in certification across like everything you use.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember like, like Discord, I remember the search on Discord, I was like, holy shit, this is the fucking greatest search of every.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now spell check doesn't even work right on Discord.
[SPEAKER_03]: On the desktop, like, apparently what happens, like you type of word wrong,
[SPEAKER_03]: and then it takes several seconds for it to highlight it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when you keep typing, you can watch how it actually works.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you keep typing, it clears all the spelling errors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it has to reprocess them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was reading something online several months ago about why that happens like somebody figured it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like some like broken cash thing or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's recalculating essentially an obscene amount of stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: to do spell trick again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's going through like for whatever reason, like it's going through like too much information.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's not just chatting like sentences, crashes.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it just takes a really long time to tell you that you spell the word wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's actually like for me, it's faster to like type my word a word.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I just drove it right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have it correct.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because sometimes you're typing stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't show up like that it's a wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a miscellaneous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you hit enter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, oh, he's like the flash of red as it disappears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's like instead of like people making the core product better, because that doesn't sell, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, no, it's like, oh, like, they just add like, you know, here's the AI fucking assistant.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's some more like skins for your discord.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, oh my god You pay for discord and you get more pop ups.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like whole.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like hey, this guy has $1 a month So he can send files bigger than 100 megabytes
[SPEAKER_00]: Like four of no, it's like four megabytes or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's so loud and loud like you're like, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you Like how about you stop giving me pop ups like you give them a couple bucks and they're like yeah We like know you more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, or if you want to find the PDF You know somebody posted the long time ago Don't go you can't start.
[SPEAKER_03]: You might help us delete all the fucking chats that are older than a year.
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys say a bunch of data No, they didn't need the data training with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot
[SPEAKER_03]: What's your private DMs?
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, is there anything good going on?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a quote just bought our do we know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that a good or bad?
[SPEAKER_04]: When you said, when you said Qualcomm just bought our, I was like, Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_04]: He made a big sale.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to get a dime.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the best part.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what do you think of when you think Qualcomm buying our do we know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I think I have no idea with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think of when you think of our do we know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, okay, I guess like when I think of our do we know I think of like obvious stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like kind of entry level community oriented like micro controllers.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, where is like Qualcomm is like massive.
[SPEAKER_03]: chip mega company so the only reason that like I know how to program firmware is because of argument like I genuinely think that I like I bought when I was in like just just graduated high school I bought the first start we know ever the the Italian one the who would decide when to build whatever the hell like the very very first one
[SPEAKER_03]: And I had no idea how to use it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did not understand anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had nobody to teach me the internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, did not do a good job of explaining how any of this stuff worked.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to make a servo move.
[SPEAKER_03]: So my dad had a friend who built this little rotating platform and he would put a product on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he would rotate and then take a picture, take a picture and take a 360 spins of a product.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've probably seen this in the past couple of years online.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like this guy had this idea like, you know, 15, 20 years ago, but all, you know, he did like your classic inventor and like just built the little turntable that would like trigger the camera, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not very valuable.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like the whole, you know, software ecosystem that allows somebody to easily like display those 360 images on their website.
[SPEAKER_00]: On the website, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that API.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like how do you make it easy for someone who doesn't know how to build a website?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so, you know, for whatever reason, I was like, oh, like, great business idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I like, how do I do this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like online, Googling, instructibles.
[SPEAKER_03]: I found, like, Arduino, and so I'm like, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is things I bought in Arduino.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the first Arduino, the US, I still have it actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: The decim will.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, decim will, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like some, some intelligent, like, engine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the most flavor of ship priority.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm like, I'm like, our duo is the thing that was like, Hey, little boy, like you can make a computer you're slave.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like otherwise, like programming to me was like for smart people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arduino Crackadillo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like to me, Arduino is this thing that is like good because it took all the bullshit of programming a microcontroller and like kind of just like shoved it into the junk drawer and then it was like, hey, you can just sort of make it work even though there's limitations.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: you're kind of like not being exposed to the worst parts of this that are the most confusing like fucking ports and that's not the most confusing part.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's way more confusing parts, but that's fucking confusing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so hearing, you know, like that walk on buying our do we know like I don't know exactly how to feel about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they launched a product with this announcement.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know because they wanted me to promote it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you got contact
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like dragged through management for too long and never ended up happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was like, I'm interested.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then then they came back and they're like, oh, but did you know it's a five year NDA?
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't talk about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I'm like, I mean, sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the opposite of Arduino.
[SPEAKER_03]: Arduino is like, here's this fucking trash we made and put on the idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just kind of fizzled out, but I mean, they still want to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now I don't have to sign the NDA anymore because it came out.
[SPEAKER_03]: the new board they just announced or released with this is called the like uno q i because i would have called you remember he didn't send the india so you can say the name no but Alan good yeah i mean he couldn't find you i found out somehow are gonna uno q is that what it was something so um and it's basically like a raspberry pie actually have no fucking idea
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a, I don't either.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all I know is every time I've seen a company like Intel or Nvidia or anyone, it was like the Arduino Edison, I think was like Intel that I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like these like computers come out and you're like cool and then two years later, they're dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sitting here thinking, I'm like, okay, like, I fucking hate computers because like every time you touch them, you like connect a computer to the internet, it like explodes itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like the only reason I know it's still around is because like the Arduino Uno or any of these like, you know, at malware, we have.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to like download this company's specific programming IDE, like there's a specific software that you have to use.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm sure with arguing, it's going to be fine because there's like, it's literally, it's like a brick and it's the same brick and that brick never changes and you like, yeah, it's so stupid That it never gets more complicated than just whatever like basic linear code that you're writing or they're like, oh, you have to download visual code studio and then install all these extensions of modules and you're like, this is a five gigabyte program like I can write now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can go and download like the old this start window ID and an Arduino Uno and it just works.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, and it like will never break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like never break and every time they come out these new computers like actual computers Like it runs Linux and they call it the Uno Q and it runs Linux, which I'm just like, okay, why are you using the Uno, you know, like Jesus Christ like that's not an Uno Uno It's like a little piece of shit micro controller and so it's like is that just going to die in a couple of years and now you have this ecosystem which like is not well supported like the Arduino community is like it's so big and so robust that you can just make everything work
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, what did you do?
[SPEAKER_03]: You just did a fucking cool ass thing that you literally couldn't do with any I know you couldn't do this with the Raspberry Pi Kevin did something that I've been thinking about doing for like like not even about doing, but like thinking about for a long fucking time.
[SPEAKER_00]: What what is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: FFT.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the vibration sensor a long time ago I like heard this thing from a friend who like was electrical engineer my dad's friend is electrical engineer that worked at a power plant where they would like FFT they would fast for a transform like turbine.
[SPEAKER_03]: oh yeah measure the like vibrations coming out of power plant equipment and like guess what happens if your turbine is vibrating like at certain amplitudes of certain frequencies you're like cool you have like a baseline yeah and if those frequency starts changing it's healthy it's healthy yeah what happens if the frequencies of your turbine start changing like okay yeah some fucking shit's fucked some wrong yeah and so you can literally like measure the vibrations of your of your turbine look at the frequencies and when they start changing just assuming something bad is going to happen
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about like how crazy that these like industrial solutions actually get.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can tell what blade on a turbine is bad just from one sensor on the side of the machine.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like that's actually fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they'll tell you like, oh, you got to change blade number 34.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what do they do that?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they freaking like laser engrave a little, a little notch into it into a blade.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they get a lot of light for each blade.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's I think they do one blade and they can tell when it comes around and then they can tell.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can count.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, oh, it's so cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's wizard shit, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, hey, here's a shaky ass thing and you do some math to it and it gives you like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Spikes that I can see like what the fuck I don't yeah, I know so my problem was I have this like spring it's called a mask spring dampener For the crowd cooler for my cryo cooler.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the cryo cooler is basically like this piston that shakes up and down So you need something to counteract that shaking or the thing would vibrate itself to death.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would self-destruct like 60 times a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's pretty fast pretty fast
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's got a way like a pound or two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, I've seen what happened when the spring broke.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing started shaking across the floor.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, I'm like, oh, this is bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it'll break.
[SPEAKER_00]: But does that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that means if it's not damping the inside.
[SPEAKER_00]: assembly, too, it starts slapping the limits.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it starts hitting the top of the closer inside in the box.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing doesn't know like that it's spring broke and that the thing's flying.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's just too stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: So just keep sending in to self-destructs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like, I caught it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I heard a horrible noise.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in the garage when it happened the first time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I ran over and I unplugged it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this machine costs $3,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: Youth.
[SPEAKER_00]: used.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's from 2003.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like what 22 years old now.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's of the spring is shaking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, and the spring is like flat, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a flat spring is called a lecture spring.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like it's 60 Hertz.
[SPEAKER_03]: 60 Hertz.
[SPEAKER_03]: The 60 times a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So so you have to.
[SPEAKER_03]: In a day, how many times does it like, does it cycle?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I didn't see.
[SPEAKER_00]: 60 hours 24 is 13 million.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for 60 hours.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because that's like that's starting to enter like, like, fatigue, life territory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, it doesn't really matter what you do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you have a piece of material, like, flexing that many times, like, just going to obliterate eventually.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's like, normally it's like air resistance.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can just ignore it in physics problems.
[SPEAKER_03]: But at 13 million cycles and 60 hours,
[SPEAKER_03]: You're you're definitely entering into like I have an I have to actually do engineering to solve this problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and it's it's like a whole field.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because they use these like kind of assemblies and Seattle lights like the Mars rover that suspension and stuff is off lecture joints.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you cut new disks and like I saw like you showed me one of the ones that broke and it broke where the laser pierced yeah like that laser pierced like caused just enough of like either a surface finished defect or like a heat what did they call that area affected it's own that like that caused it to fit in what like 24 hours or less good day they feel yeah about a day it's been pretty consistent that they all fail within one day for the spring that came with the machine broke.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, laser cut new one in that broke within a day within a day with in a day like the vibration like the spring shaking up and down it shakes so many fucking times that it broke within a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best run I got was 60 hours.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is like actually like torture testing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is I know like in a lab and see like pushing a couch over and over again.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I start getting like a little bit, you know, I'm like, okay, you know, uh, that maybe the surface is too rush on the in rough on the inside of the cut.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I start sanding the inside of the spring.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if you spring breaks and it's running like the machine will just fucking kill it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, that's back to the vibration sensor.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I don't know if the spring I made is going to work and I don't know if it's, you know, in the context of it doesn't work and it's in the middle of the night your machine will blow up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not there, you know, I don't hear it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It will break.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll self-destruct.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I made this, I mean, it was kind of, I think your idea to do it with FFT.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't, I mean, it was literally just an idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea if you could actually do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And well, chat GPT did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I guided it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I told it kind of what I wanted.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and it, and basically, I, it started off by giving me just like, you know, dear just these variables to like, you know, if it gets above this or the frequency, see the frequency drifts this fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll, you know, it turns off a relay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what does it do?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, so what it does is I gave it a healthy baseline.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have an accelerometer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have an accelerometer that's mounted kind of to the machine to the assembly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if it detects a frequency shift over time, or like an amplitude shift over time,
[SPEAKER_03]: So it like how fast is a really exciting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think like, well, the it's 60 hertz.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're I think what it's doing is it takes an average of the peaks.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it reads it like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: 120.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, it reads it at 500 times a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's reading.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's reading 500 times a second, but it updates the peaks five times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because I have to sample a period of, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's all just on an Arduino like what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, nano.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, the Arduino Nano is the same as the new one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it saves it, it saved it every time it works great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it'll save it to the point where I'm like, oh, it tripped, like, it's like, if the spring is starting to fail, yeah, it will trip, it'll like can see that and it'll trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it'll, it'll stop it if the spring has a, like, before it even cracks, because this happened to me twice so far.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's turned off, and I'm like, oh, a false positive.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go out there, I turn it on, and then within five minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It failed.
[SPEAKER_00]: It fails.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like this spring, it's so springy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so springy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cracks and half.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like reading the vibrations, 500 times a second, it's like measuring the acceleration, taking the acceleration, dumping it into an FFT to turn the like what time and amplitude into the frequency and the amplitude.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it
[SPEAKER_03]: like looks at like for a 60 Hertz spike, which is like it should be operating at about 60 Hertz plus or minus a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then if that 60 Hertz spike moves or starts moving, it like keeps track of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then when it goes beyond, you can assume that there's like a crack in the spring.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or something's starting to happen bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you can be like, oh, there's a problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not a 60 Hertz anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can assume that like you can't hear it or
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's like on an old shitty Arduino.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but honestly, I think this new Qualcomm thing, it solved, it's like the perfect space between an Arduino and a Raspberry Pi, because you don't really have any like GPIO, but it's going to die.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you do with the Raspberry Pi, but it's like you always talk to an Arduino with the Raspberry Pi, that's the problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't, like, use the, I don't know, software to really interface with the, if you need, like, accurate time keeping, you can't really do that with Raspberry Pi.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what I don't know exactly how operating systems work, but they're not running continuously.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they are, but it's not running your program.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like switching back and forth.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a, you know, and our dream I was like really good at being like, I will literally do whatever you want when you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like cycle by cycle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like cycle by cycle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like, maybe that's what this is.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, is this a bad thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like is Qualcomm going to come in and like you have somebody, you know, you know how this, I don't even know Qualcomm is.
[SPEAKER_03]: They make like, they're like this, some sleeping giant like, like, more accurate or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like a big, like,
[SPEAKER_03]: They make like like phone computing chips like for phones and stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's all I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that I mean same Like the five G chips like all I want is like a five dollar art.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do we know like does anybody actually want this like $40 like Does anybody actually buy or do we know anymore?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, sorry, I don't know I go on all expressed by like a handful of them for a nickel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: Because here's the thing, I would buy Arduino if they were the same price.
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously you can make Arduino's for $10 for 10 nanos, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: So they could do it too, but they don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this is it going to be something where like they are they doing it is it sort of just like a marketing kind of philanthropic thing where it's like hey we're like going to we're going to take over and like maintain or do we know in a better way or is it one of those things we get some like middle management comes in and and just sort of like tries to figure out how to like make it something more value out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I mean I see I don't see Arjuna as like this giant successful company.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean they they make this thing that's popular, but nobody's I don't feel like you can get rich off of this apparently Raspberry Pi like makes a shit ton of money like they started as a nonprofit like a you know like a low cost computer for education.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then at some point I was reading that at the like they're like an actual like profitable company now like they're not it's maybe they have a nonprofit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know the exact.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's like a hobby thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like apparently we're 50% it was like 70% like some enormous number of Raspberry Pi boards go into things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like module.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a module.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like a little DIY computer anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually like a module.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like intermodule.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're smart toaster.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you shove a fucking SD card into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all of a sudden now you have the thing that it needs to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just working.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you don't have to like, you don't do anything to shove the SD card in with your image.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like all of a sudden you just have this computer that you can replicate over and over.
[SPEAKER_03]: I learned this horrible command in Linux.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like set up that computer, the computer is that Kevin was like digging through a dumpster basically for computers.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's like a little shitty one for potato that I was like, oh, give potato computer.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I like formatted it with this like kids' Linux, hold endless OS.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I went through a couple of games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does it have games?
[SPEAKER_03]: It has some games, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I wanted.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like find some like good kids' games.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like games for like a kid whose brain is like kind of mushy.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my child.
[SPEAKER_03]: um and there's a command called dd in Linux and the nickname for dd is called like I think drive delete.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, so you can just like open the command prompt and say dd.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can say dd and you say like like see I want this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: and I want to copy it to here.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's not like, hey, I would like to copy my files.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is like you would like to copy every single one in zero from this and I'm going to write them exactly to this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so you can just like duplicate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you do it in the wrong order.
[SPEAKER_03]: It will literally write every bit from your flash drive to your like food drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, or like what if it's like a blank folder and you write it to your flash drive and then it deletes your whole flash.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so anyway, I've had a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm too mushy for Lennox.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've had a lot of fun with Lennox's past week, like just like learning how I feel like I'm getting closer to the computer.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, yeah, you're bonding.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm bonding.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's this thing that can just, like, actually not copying and pasting anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Interface with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're like, oh, I would like you to, like, actually write ones and they're like, I'm pretty, like, not just, it's not copy this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's right, it exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still think Windows XP is peak.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just, you know, digging four old computers in a dumpster, I found a Windows XP laptop.
[SPEAKER_03]: What about seven?
[SPEAKER_00]: Better than seven?
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, it's so fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything like, start my new boom, anything boom.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then instead of the picture, the grass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just can't connect it to the internet forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll just get every virus instantly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how they do it, but you just can't connect, oh, yeah, it's bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I definitely think that if you haven't tried Linux.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: The start menu is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't use it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The start menu now.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't use it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in Shidified.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: But do you know it's not in Shidified?
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say Linux is almost as like the opposite of Shidified.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where to start with.
[SPEAKER_03]: It like A's almost kind of exactly like window.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a boom to and has Firefox.
[SPEAKER_03]: You do 90% of your computing.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the difference between Linux kernels?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what you call a kernel?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a colonist corn.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a different thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like farming.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know anything about any of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Nigel, what are you up to?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're boring you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got a question for Nigel.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are going to yell at us if you don't get to talk about something.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got 400 free strawberry plants and the unit pH of like six and my soil here on the third farm is eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I was looking and apparently you can do you can put sulfur right sulfur will like help to increase the acidity and I called a local like Ag store today and they asked if I had a sulfur burn.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and I was like, no, yeah, you're like do you have anything that doesn't require that and she's like yes, but you need a permit.
[SPEAKER_00]: What what do you mean what we a sulfur burn just pour out some old batteries on in the ground, you know, probably find some.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sulfur, sulfur, sulfur, sulfur, what's a sulfur burn.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Google sulfur, sulfur, sulfur burner and it said it's like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it like inject sulfur dioxide into the ground, that's what I'm wondering, like, or you bump it into water and make like sulfur gas to like burn, like burn sulfur.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it like vaporizes elemental sulfur to produce sulfur dioxide, or something dissolves into the water.
[SPEAKER_00]: to make sulfuric acid is out what it's doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's actually sulfuric.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it makes sulfuric.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, sulfuric.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because there's no or whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: What it.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is it.
[SPEAKER_04]: H 2 S O 3.
[SPEAKER_03]: How much lead is in the better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, sulfuric.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not of like, I think, throughout the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what are you just buy new sulfuric acid drain cleaner at the hardware store.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then buddy, make it to sulfuric, sulfuric acid.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it matters.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just wants, but you could not buy that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't do they fucking told me I needed burner or permit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And right now, I don't know what's harder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I've, oh, wait, no, that might not be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't you just mix the sulfur in the soil?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, why don't I just like put it in like, you know, like one of the like feed it into the sprinkler.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or or do the fire truck and just put in the tank like we did worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm acid in the tank like, like, actually, what are you supposed to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't fucking know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: How much acid do you need?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is so what is so for us?
[SPEAKER_01]: So for us acid.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was going to say, could you do like potassium by sulfate?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that like, can you get that at the pool store?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for pH.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, increase it down for your pool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I might kill all your plans.
[SPEAKER_04]: But KHSO4, maybe it might be two instead of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it might, it might be two instead.
[SPEAKER_03]: What if, what if it's like really dilute and you just do it over one month?
[SPEAKER_04]: Impact on soil.
[SPEAKER_04]: I say, Google AI says, when applied to soil, KHSO4 will lower the soil's pH.
[SPEAKER_04]: But is it like stable or will it like, you know, I don't know, decomposed to all the, while the effect is mild in small quantities large applications can noticeably reduce the soil pH for this reason farmers may need to monitor soil acidity when applying KHSO for.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's just a Google AI.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why people just use elemental sulfur, safer or less.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it lasts longer.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like more kind of consistent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like the powder.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just the powder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why also you're not because this comes with the, I think the real reason is because this comes with potassium.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you might, oh, that's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a fertilizer, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it might be like bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, like maybe too much potassium's bad, you know, somehow.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, so then like, oh my god, I hate this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, home deepening like a four pounded egg a soul first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, so you strawberries need acidic soil or is your soil not just it's not as like it's they need slightly more acidic more acidic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I think the soil here is like pretty basic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, some basic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Basic as soil.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a pH of like eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I just looked at the soil turned again.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what does it need to be like, seven, six?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's pretty aesthetic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, guys, it's like, it's, it's just, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so we are at a pitch of eight in strawberries one like six to six and a half.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what's up.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where's that.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like we plant the strawberries.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I looked it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm chatting with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that should be these says both can be used, but it says that the sulfurous acid one kind of socks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the solar burner.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because it says it's unstable short-lived temporary and rarely used directly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if there's any of this group.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it says, chatGPT recommends, potassium, vice, sulfate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm gonna kill all these plants with chatGPT recommended.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate chatG.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the Nigel GPT recommendation?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, I feel like I'm in this position where
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean, I can have an opinion and be like, oh, that sounds good on paper and then it's like just kill.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's literally, it's better than the comment section of a YouTube video, but it's still like not better than an expert who like wouldn't pick up the phone unless you pay them, would it be like coffee, I still pine needles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I did, I tried to pine needles somewhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I feel like the analogy I'm I'm saying is like I feel like my view of it is very like narrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's I mean, because I studied biochem.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like going, yeah, you know, study show that this drug doesn't interact with this receptor and you're like, hey, cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that should like do this effect in the person go, yeah, I guess, and then he feeds to the guy he dies and you find out sure it, you know, had this very specific
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, sure, this definitely will affect the soil pH, but it will work so fast.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, it might be something that a farmer would hear that and go to kill every farmer's don't know, shit, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just like hire a soil engineer like an ag engineer in the ag engineer tells them to go spend 10,000 dollars on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what Nigel is for us right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Nigel, what do we do?
[SPEAKER_00]: How do we save these strawberries?
[SPEAKER_03]: they're they're dying a lot of a bag filled with like 400 strawberry like like it's like roots in a stump.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they go sad so I Google AI says that now well that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now I'm just just listen it kind of makes sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: It says basically large scale it seems to be that like the burning sulfur methods what people use because they
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess and they can just like generate it, I think it being like where it disappears quickly allows them to actually not destroy the soil, I don't know, I don't know, a lot more control.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe like if they're switching crops too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they can change.
[SPEAKER_03]: It only lasts for like one season.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it might be fast, whereas it says that it's not practical for like, you know, an average bozo.
[SPEAKER_04]: who doesn't have like the ability to burn sulfur and pump it through.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what if it was just like dilute sulfuric acid or like citric acid, like, then or those are two acidic still, yeah, but only if there's like a little bit of it, but still the actual like strength of the acid is like your overall pH goes down, but like your acid strength is too hot, like, but then again,
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's because it's HSO4.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just kind of like the weak.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the sulfuric acid that's already given its strongest proton away.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's, it's kind of just like a crappy weak acid versus if you did dilute sulfuric acid, it's still a strong acid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just dilute if that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: We go like, I'm like a time for hours to like figure this out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like how long will the strawberries last in dirt with high pH?
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, go to the pool store by potassium by sulfate and give it OK John right right this down.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have the Nigel Gary you want to kill 400 strawberries motherfucker.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a win-win.
[SPEAKER_03]: You either get a good video or a bunch of strawberries and I still get I still get to use that title no matter what.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm almost killed my strawberries.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, because I like, we like have the strawberries now.
[SPEAKER_03]: They like, I think they like have to go into the ground.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I don't really know like what the timeline is for like adding like any like sort of acidic stuff to the to the soil like there's just like something happens over a week.
[SPEAKER_03]: You do this like only like I know man.
[SPEAKER_00]: You maybe just put a little bit in the water when you water them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what I should do is just get like we have to like tell some area.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe you can just like Hose it down and then tell it kind of things Makes it go in the middle because I don't think we use the whole field for the sunflower.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it me?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, we didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's only Doing the edges.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I mean, what's the worst that happens?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is the sulfur burners at burning like elemental sulfur?
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be so stinky.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is, I mean, it could be- It would smell like a volcano opened up in the middle of the farm.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a suspicion that might be what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, what if I just buy the elemental sulfur and mix it into the water and like, into the sprinkler, like feed it into the sprinkler?
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably, I mean, flowers are yellow, sulfur is yellow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be fine for the sunflowers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Put it in the, um, the fire truck and just like having just sort of like powder suspended into water like, yeah, um, um, kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't want to like spoil the, um, the road trip.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure, I didn't or somehow didn't realize that it was next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Joel and Alex earn, they're going to go on a road trip.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to shoot a travel show for a sauce class.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a better be good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're counting on you now.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to save sauce plus.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is like all the eggs in the spasket is you and Alec.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're giving like pretty much all the money that you have left.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're investing it into the show all $3,000 into the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's your, what's, how do you, that's a lot of, that's a lot of.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's spending a week with Alex.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ernst is going to be fun or a disaster.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's always fun hanging with Alex.
[SPEAKER_03]: A week straight down.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't, I haven't been exposed to that much Alex before.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm sure it'll be good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure it'll be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that you guys are going to be better friends at the end of it or worse friends?
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... i think that's to be determined right i just remember uh... during scare the coyote Alex came up to me and he was like Nigel was google searching which flavor of your bhammate was the best while we were standing in front of the fridge and target hey yeah that's like yeah sounds right i had to only choose one
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a how different could they never have them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, when you you're present that it's I I had eight options and I was willing to choose one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was where the flavors have you never heard of these flavors before where they brand new undiscovered never seen I've never seen like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad isn't it like you're meant and like peach and strob you've had those before.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did you come with the scare of the cavity.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we're like some flavors in general.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you describe yourself as an overthinker?
[SPEAKER_04]: It depends on what.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're overthinking right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, actually, would you describe Alex Ernst?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know where he was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is Alex Ernst an overthinker?
[SPEAKER_04]: I would say yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's an underthinker.
[SPEAKER_03]: he's a depend he's a world war that's that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's not an overthinker.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a he gets he's a weird thinker and then he does something and he's worried about it after the fact.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's true that's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, like at the end of the day, it's like it takes two seconds.
[SPEAKER_04]: All like Google was like, what's the best flavor?
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what I'll change.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but he's a five.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to trust it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, AI like Google it is not a drink.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're about my day.
[SPEAKER_03]: It did.
[SPEAKER_04]: It would fucking explode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because everyone knows, when you have like eight flavors, one of them is bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: All I'm saying is that like, we're dumping all of our money into this roadship show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought that if I put an overthinker and an underthinker together, that it would go well.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm with you on this, though, Nigel, because that Celsius that you were drinking, I think there's only one good flavor they may.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were just like, you're like this one or not?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Cherry Colors, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's one of the things that the tropical ones and they're all bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all taste the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: Except that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: That one kind of just tastes like shitty, shitty, cherry Colors, like really shitty cherry Colors, but it's an energy drink and so it's like, well, at least you're getting, you know, I mean, I don't think the energy is the right word, at least you're getting energy out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm jealous though Nigel.
[SPEAKER_00]: This trip sounds fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: When Will is spoiling it to me, I'm like, I want to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely going to fly on the wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: A fly smashed onto the windshield, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ask first or face first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, face first.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's time to time to go to the next hour.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell you, we're going to go on the extra.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to talk about my least favorite group of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got a lot of least favorite groups of people.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have, Kevin, that's very ominous.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wrote down some interesting things that we should talk about as podcasts, so we'll talk about the extra.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have one note here called Bad Parent, I'm excited about that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited to share that with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's better.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't say publicly.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was an accident.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't realize it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a very strong bias towards this group of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're free.
[SPEAKER_00]: Haven't even seen this.
[SPEAKER_00]: This really sees our eyes.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they have like a horoscope bad vibes astrology.
[SPEAKER_04]: But Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, can we?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or we can.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're worse than the astrology.
[SPEAKER_00]: Crystal Crystal people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we're worse than the worse.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I was going to say, can we, can we just be very clear that this isn't a racist?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's definitely a racist thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because there's a certain type of people that I just don't like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, it's like a racist thing, but not against a race.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's like the same vibe, but, but yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: My phone's going off right now and it just says Google is calling me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Huh.
[SPEAKER_03]: What does that mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's ominous.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't either.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see you guys on the extra.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks to everyone who supports us on Patreon, a similar reason we can do this show because Google or YouTube ad revenue is not, is just shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't sponsor, is because we're stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't do this for money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know how many sponsored fan on this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Entire.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, actually like a handful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so it's Patreon.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you guys want extras, which is basically just full podcast, Q and A, ask us questions, you get our Discord server too, which people are actually surprisingly active, especially Andy Dick guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or is it what's it coming out now?
[SPEAKER_00]: But is the guy broke his ass?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you want to hang out with a guy broke his ass on the disc or he literally can't go anywhere else.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all he has.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's getting better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you can hobble around now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we talked for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why are we talking?
[SPEAKER_03]: I love our disc or I do too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you guys on safety third extra patreon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: We love you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love you, Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_01]: What a jerk.