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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, we are about to pop.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's poppin everybody hello in a welcome popcorn culture my name's Ben Carlin and I am your host here Me today's my brother Jay who will be in every episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I made it back to the pop here Benjamin You doing your best uh Not not her her cool pro-parrow But instead Ben wall-blown men wall-blown yeah, because are you doing this because wake-up dead man?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like I'm dead man just can't we just watch it over the over the break and I just love the knives out movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're so fun
[SPEAKER_00]: They really are, they're such a hoot and holler in good time and Daniel Craig being like this southern investigator type man is something that has really like thrown its uh, it's like hooks into our sense of humor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: And such a big way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you have not watched a lot, the knives out movies at our office, then you're going to get lost real fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I mean, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, one of the things like I feel like I really want to do because we do it all the time we will like enter this persona voice while we're all just like sitting around and sometimes this is where I'm almost like I wish we just had cameras rolling in the office at all times because sometimes we're so well, I think genuinely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we're like so funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are hilarious.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are cracker couple of jokes.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, literally as we were walking in here, we were just having a conversation with Ethan and Isabelle about how like when we make the kind of jokes that we make here at the office, elsewhere, and people don't think they're funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, look, this would kill back at work.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would kill back at work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But one of the things that we tend to do is like insert the Ben Wall Blanc voice into like different
[SPEAKER_00]: characters and so like we were doing it with like my nerve and my god ago from the Harry Potter movies earlier where it's like well, Abba, Abba always wanted to use that spell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is it always a ub3?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it works, god of love is
[SPEAKER_02]: You think a wild, the trust-hagrid was something like that, Professor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, just, just get there, take the Harry Potter series, replace McGonagall with Ben Wall-Blanc.
[SPEAKER_00]: Change nothing else.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: There just happens to be a Southern detective who is actually a British actor on staff and Hogwarts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I want to see, this is my, I would love it if, um, when they're casting for season two of HB, the HBO series, if, um, for Lockhart, if they don't go with me, which I think they should sure, yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They say if they cast day no Craig has been while Blanc has killed Roy Lockhart.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be really, now if it was pretty obvious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hardly any of you remembered them off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Favorite colors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Loud.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get day to grunk for a lot of hard plans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just make it ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now this is just like magic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's like a body of memories, bulls.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, we're trying to do the like together.
[SPEAKER_00]: We steal the front page.
[SPEAKER_02]: together, you and I, we are still the front page, Harry, Harry, with the day may come when you lack me.
[SPEAKER_02]: You need to carry around a stack of photos with you wherever you go, but at this point in your career, it comes off a little big head in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: changes, it changes the total voice of Lockhart.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does.
[SPEAKER_00]: So much.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like, like, virgin on more reasonable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, you know, like, when you got Kenneth Brown out there, I'd be like, well, holy any of you remember my favorite clothes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lilac.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like, it just seems like, like, so,
[SPEAKER_00]: pretentious and self-important.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, where is like when you do it in the Daniel Craig boys, it almost sounds more like like like he is also in on the fact that it's pure silliness.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody who hasn't watched any of the knives out movies though is sort of like, what are we missing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just all this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Please do it because if you don't know, Daniel Craig is the latest James Bond.
[SPEAKER_02]: which somehow might not be the character he's most well known for.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, eventually.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are certain instances where the selection of a specific actor for a specific role works because of how well you know them from other things.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like in the TV series, Madman, John Hamm plays like the ultimate like,
[SPEAKER_00]: cool swab, deba-nair, like, you know, business draper.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Don Draper business man or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, I mean, it's hard to crack the code on like, you know, who, I mean, he's not the most admirable human being on the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to be like Don Draper necessarily, but like his swagger, the way that he dresses, the way that he holds a drink, everything is cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, by design.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then whenever John Hamm shows up like in other projects, it seems like they lean really heavy on the fact that you most likely know him from Madman right so now If he shows up in like 30 rock or something, he's just gonna be like a total like goof right is a complete like doofus and other stuff Yes, it's funny or because you know him is the on-rapper the other example that we often talk about is another movie that you and I and and the people in the office love is stranger than fiction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, starring Will Ferrell.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: as Harold Crick, Harold Crick, and it's like a role where he is like an auditor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's an auditor for the IRS.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's kind of like a like generic boring vanilla person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he very like everything about like his life and routine and the way that he goes through everything is just heavily calculated and playing, and it's also said to us watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: right, but it's like a huge part of I think what makes it work is what your relationship with Will Ferrell is maybe outside the confines of the film and then seeing him be the character inside the film.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It ends up working because of the reputation you already know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so funny that you brought up Will Ferrell and went for stranger than fiction because I was going to bring it Will Ferrell and compare it like old school versus elf.
[SPEAKER_02]: which came out in the same year.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's also a really weird one because, yeah, you've got old school Will Ferrell, which is like Frank, the tank.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going streaky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and then you've got L. Like, but into the elf, let's do a favorite color.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, one of the, it's like, you literally in the same year, you can, like, you and your child could have, um, like, your favorite movie could be starring Will Ferrell in the completely different movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm hearing is that, um, Will Ferrell got rings.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got his come up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might not think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: More than me more than I thought me originally gave him credit for also definitely see stranger than fiction That's just like one of my favorite movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a really good one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a good there's there's a lot of like very Like I again, I think it like really like touches like our sense of humor funny bone is a great way Who is like the professor that is like always in Hoffman doesn't Hoffman.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's I guess
[SPEAKER_00]: it is always drinking coffee right in every single scene but he like switches coffee cups like four times in one conversation yes yes yep so like all the dialogue just very witty and hilarious and fun and stuff so yeah if that's when you haven't seen you're like it's Friday I need weekend plans watch that one right you I don't think it'll be sad you won't be sad
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no chance.
[SPEAKER_02]: That one's so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorites.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, all time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Ben, over this past weekend, my son, Luke William.
[SPEAKER_02]: Luke William had his first basketball game of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he is officially in the realm of rec league basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have we graduated from like the upward church league.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're in like official rec sports.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: As it were.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they're still not like keeping the score, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was looking at me and me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was keeping the score.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew I knew it was what it was like Like underneath like the bleacher taste got a little like pads.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a little like some like Gus is about to get a triple double.
[SPEAKER_02]: Y'all this is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on three you call that a pic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't be that bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one be that bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think it'd be funny to take this dance and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's like one too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like where I've always had to be really fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like once Addison enters like wreck league sports to get like the like the really long like telephoto lens or whatever so that like you could be on the sideline taking like professional.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Photos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, just a little like Facebook group for all the parents and sort of like of your team.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: that this is like one of those I'm so sorry to cut you all know you're a loose story because I know it's a great one but this is the kind of thing where it's like I am surprised that in the world of rexports there are not more overly and I'm sure people out there like they all are there there but like more overly enthusiastic parents who like go out and get like real jerseys for the kids or something or you know like just really go hard on taking it like one step too far but just on the
[SPEAKER_02]: on the name of good fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, to, well, to, you know, pioneer that forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I can say, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, why not, why not be tailgating at your kid soccer game, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you don't have like a grill out there and some, right, some dogs, no, no, it's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I think what has sold me on it is that I'm I played pickleball a few times or just you know, would take the kids to pickleball adjacent places and you go and you're like pickleball is you know, it's the playing the game is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you see the people out there on Saturday morning, that's like 50% of the experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like, people with tents, they're grilling, they're drinking, it like, pickle, it's a party is what's happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, yeah, it's like, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pickable feels like the sport where it really does seem like it's just basically elevated.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's an activity that just about anybody can like technically do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it reminds me a lot of like cornhole to be honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like cornhole is the kind of game where it's sort of like if you go in throw the bag like a hundred times You're you're gonna have it pretty dialed in right like you you will go from like how do you even play this game to like okay I'm in I got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I'm that that's pretty much what it takes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah cornhole there do that good time So anyway Um, where was I going with
[SPEAKER_00]: Luke William played basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, this weekend, now this was different from when we were kids where I feel like we'd have like, we normally like for Rex Sports, you'd have like practice one night a week and then a game on the weekend or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But his practice was on Saturday and then his game was on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So back to back days, both days of the weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a, I feel like it's kind of a big ask for the parents for Rex Sports.
[SPEAKER_00]: It most certainly is, yeah, it's a big one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love how we went from like, let's go way too hard to let you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're kind of taking it all out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, although one of my, what, anyway, when I was at the, um, so I brought Lucas practice and the team that was leaving those practicing for him was leaving and I know the coach on that team and I was talking to him and he was like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got our first game tomorrow and then I'm coaching my daughter's game the afternoon.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, goodness me, Kevin, how many you are in it, dude?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, apparently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, that's your whole all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bravo.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, so the quick story about Luke's practice is that it went, you know, totally fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get him practice, but then at the very end, I was like just listening to the coach, like talked to them, like, you know, this is what we're going to do tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, let's get in here and do like a, you know, one, two, three team,
[SPEAKER_02]: And this I thought was so funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Luke and his buddy Gus are both there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Gus is wearing a t-shirt for the Celtics, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Luke, and he starts like going Celtics, Celtics, and then Luke, like turns, and he's like, oh yeah, because he knows that we the family root for the Celtics.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gets to say up sometimes we'll watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Luke and Gus just start yelling like, Celtics, Celtics, overt over the coaches of edge.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're just like, all right, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can be the Celtics.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says, that they do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do one, two, three, so I was like, and Luke Luke was heavy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was so, so proud of himself for naming the team.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, and then I'm like, the reason Luke like Luke is so into it is because I'm so windowed, which is because we went to that game a couple of years ago and it's like that game tripped it away into this basketball court, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a cool thing because, you know, when
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're growing up, you're using your parents in such a great way as a model for your basis of interest and what does our family do?
[SPEAKER_00]: What does our family do?
[SPEAKER_00]: What does our family culture and our little allegiance and stuff like that to teams and whatever?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's amazing how powerful that is and you're kind of like step into that phase of life where you're getting really like, see it happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And real time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was really cool to watch and they just felt like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that just happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: So then Loubie came home and looked so excited and was like, where the Celtics were the Celtics?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess, like, despite the fact that their jerseys just say like cave spring on them, you know, so it'd be easy to just call them the Knights, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's the mascot for cave spring.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the mascot for cave spring.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you're at the middle school, which case you're at the Squires.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Squires, which is where, well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, uh, but yeah, that's a interesting transition up isn't it because I think if well I guess if you're at what if you're at Hidden Valley Which you're from like Eagles to Titans or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think something like that a graduation level is that doesn't make any sense no continuity None, none whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hidden Valley.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't get anything right
[SPEAKER_00]: some raffleries never die so that's what our well if we can't put fun in our our rivals what what fun is even sports you know right that's true let's throw they are the enemies and probably also just degenerates across the board and now what do they do ranch over there
[SPEAKER_00]: I do, I feel like growing up and like the other high school being called Hidden Valley and like growing up where we lived and everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was sort of like wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's the ranch school.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the ranch school.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a ranch dressing joke.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a very good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you're here, you know of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Hidden Balance of High and School, I suppose.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so they're in the Celtics.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, we call them more like I guess we get or we get a represent in the team, you know, we'll show up tomorrow and have all of our gear on because of course everyone of my family has Celtics gear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we go, we show up at the game the next day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, not before I took Luke to go get some Gatorade after his practice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the, I mean, the kids love Gatorade.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't get to drink it very often but I'm like after sports is of course when you can drink Gatorade that that you found the moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that I was remember about Gatorade growing up is that I did I actually hated the I hated the taste of Gatorade unless you had just participated in like a long run or a soccer practice or a game or something and then it tastes amazing amazing amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how I knew I like work card.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like when the Gatorade tastes good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just hit hit right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we go to Crowger to go get our, our sports drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and we get into the gatorade aisle and Luke spots a different drink, which is body armor, okay body armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I've seen it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's, it's saltier, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't actually tried it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I know about body armor is that it's the sports drink that dude perfect promotes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and let me tell you what we'll do about it was that dude perfect drink body armor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, my goodness is their marketing effective So he's he's like all in and he was so all in he was like he just like a never facing a whole wall of flavors And he's just like oh my gosh, this is basically the best day of my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get to drink some body armor
[SPEAKER_00]: All I can think now though is like you know like when you're sick Like somebody either may offer or you might have a yeah, we're all stocked up on like day quail night quail tissues Gatorade ginger ale like you know all the like the things that you want when you like don't like feel well It'd be so interesting if like Luke went to college one day and he like message you guys and was like, you know Yeah, I've got a head goal like I'm not not to worry though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm drinking plenty of body armor
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly what it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Body armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're going to aim at the kids here.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they're targeting.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're marketing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the kind of thing, though, where it's like the shift from Gatorade being like the gold standard for like what you drink when you feel like going to something like body armor would be like Skype losing to zoom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, how like Skype can't lose, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They have become the term that people use.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it come the pandemic and everything became Zoom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: One is just like, how time I forget what Skype was called?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, it's like, what was that other one?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, run.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Skype always baffled me because I remember like in college, I would, you know, I would like you would chat with people on in some messenger, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And in, if you're using like a Mac, you had I chat instead, which just also logged you into aim or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But from there, you could just use I chat to FaceTime with people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could just
[SPEAKER_02]: We're already talking right here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were using aim.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were using eye chat to tell me to open a different app to video chat.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were like, I'd never, I'd never understood it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it'd be like, it's better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: How?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is it doing differently?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it doing differently?
[SPEAKER_02]: We're all ready, I can push your button.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to open a website inside of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I never got it, but whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gone now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, the thing that I would say about this, though, is that the number one thing that I do every single time I get a new computer, which is almost always a Mac, is download Google Chrome instead of ever using something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am so not, I don't even know how to use Safari.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, like I'm just a crumb.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a crumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, crumb crumb fanboy crumb girly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going for So anyway, we get to yeah, Luke's super excited about the body armor when you he arrived home with his body armor and Nick and Nate were excited for him They're just like what no could we have some
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there is like best thing ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I didn't know what I'm getting them for Christmas.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got him a case of body armor.
[SPEAKER_02]: There'll be this is a drink, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not like armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Be so funny if like Luke Lake story like under his bed or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: He still has the bottle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we tried to throw it away.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like precious to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has filled it up now and he's doing like bottle flips with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like bottle flip, trick shot things with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is very funny, you know what this kind of reminds me of?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember when we were in high school or middle school or whatever?
[SPEAKER_00]: You would do the fun racers where you would go door to door and you'd sell the gift wrap or holiday decorate boxes and chocolates and stuff?
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like every time I did it, I was always allowed to pick out like one candy box treat in inside of there, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: like nutcrackers that had peanut butter inside of them or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember I would get them and I would take them home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was me probably like age 12.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would put them in my closet in my bedroom like hidden like underneath like a stack of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like to the point where mom and dad still have, I mean obviously they still have my closet and they believe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Part of me were like not being highly shocked if you were to go in there like lift some things up and find like an old empty like chocolate container.
[SPEAKER_00]: Possibly with like one or two left in there that I was saving for like a rainy day Rain day, which Korean I needed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you never know you never know and I remember like I would come home like some days And I would like shut the door behind me like lock it and I was sort of like okay No one's coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one's coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can I can I can I can I can I can unsee all the vault right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, and it felt like you know I think because I was getting like it was crappy chocolate.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't good right But I think because it came from it's like very like exclusive
[SPEAKER_00]: Like fat like pathway.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that it was amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it was like when you could really got Sabre these you know absolutely do big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in my room.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a drawer and my desk where I would just always dump all of my candy Halls from like Christmas or Easter Halloween.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was it was it was always full of candy like I would always just like any time I wanted I could just always get something out of there and that was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: that was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like so comforting to me to know that I had this whole drawer of candy at any given moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, I didn't eat a ton of it, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you weren't like such a such a, such a, like, you had to be the easiest child the parent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: That it's the only thing I could possibly imagine because I feel like you've got you got like good grades You weren't like overly indulgent.
[SPEAKER_02]: You never want to like spend your money like you know You were I don't know you were just you were just good good you're just a good kid Well, I'm okay, so you say I don't want to spend my money so like sometimes the kids will get like you know money for the birthday or Christmas or something And I'll be like you know, oh what if we you know
[SPEAKER_02]: Or, you know, Luke Bickel, I can spend this at Disney or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I bet it's like, you know, I'm like, that sounds fine to me, you know, you got some money, you go spend it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it doesn't go spend birthday money.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, when you got money, when you were a kid, did you, you went and spent it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I did really.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so so bad bet like in Beth's mind is the kind of thing that's like this is like important money that you should like save right so like, you know, you know, like you would get to 18 or go to college or whatever and it's like, okay, good thing I saved, you know, the $500 small by birthday is growing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have some money to take the school with me right or to, you know, yeah, pay for something or a car or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know Interesting, yeah, I'm interested.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, well, this is this is a difference of how things will I mean I would save some money most of the time anyway, sure, but it wasn't like I was like I can't spend money
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you have, would you have like a go-to piece of financial advice me to kids or to anybody to anyone?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't really, not maybe I'm super probably not the person to ask.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just so curious because like the thing that you possess that I feel like so that is so rare to be like encapsulated.
[SPEAKER_00]: is like I feel like you have people who are like heavily into like savings and like using money strategically and spreadsheets and budgeting and there's something called like fire which is like financial independence retire early which I think is like a whole like subreddit to like how you can like live.
[SPEAKER_00]: the fire life style so I feel like there's like those people out there in the world and then there's like people like me like when I would get like my birthday money like mom when can we go to Walmart there's some star wars action figures call in my name right can't decide right now because each ship you could buy an X-wing or a typhine forever those were twenty dollars right it's no bigger
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so it was kind of like, do I get like three ships?
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be like 60, but then I could get like eight action figures as well because they were five bucks a piece.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so it's like, you know, like how how do you do this math?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you get like 20 action figures and no ships?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, where do I go all in on a $50 millennium Falcon?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, a real big.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go real big.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like one of the fancy, one of the 880, that was 80 bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, I mean, these, these were like the decisions.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the decision that that money is just burning the whole in your pocket.
[SPEAKER_00]: It will, I mean, like in such a way that like, I can't believe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this, this is where like when I was growing up, I had a, I had a personal finance class in high school.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was actually quite a good class, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I learned a lot about like how compounding interest and stuff like that word.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: which is good to know that's like what you use for retirement and stuff and then I also went to college where then I'm being a business major man had to take finance courses and stuff and so they taught even more of those types of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway my piece of financial advice would be if literally nothing else you're doing you should open a Roth IRA.
[SPEAKER_02]: My financial advice would be one to hire someone to do your taxes and to work with a financial advisor who can advise you on how to do these things if you don't know how to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because a lot of times getting it set up is like that part getting it set up is a hard part just they'll like check in with you on that sort of stuff and they're just going to know a lot more about it than you and the way they're going to make money is if you make money.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they are extremely incentivized to help you do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely accurate.
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, Luke's basketball game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Luke's basketball game what we're finally going to get to here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the day comes and I didn't we get there, you know, it's actually it's in the it's in the middle school, which was really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even that they lower the hoops, they have these like whole second apparatus, they like latch onto the existing hoop and it's like a whole new backboard that drops down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I remember this from childhood.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's that and the game starts playing and it's it's pretty fun to watch because it's like way more basketball than it was like at the church.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like their their teams.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they know what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They can pass the ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kids are like hitting jump shots and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good size matters a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, well, you know, I could that could see that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a big guys sport and some of the kids are a lot bigger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but Luke doesn't get into like the like the second like or the first little like rotation first sub in or whatever Okay, and he's going down and his buddy is buddy Gus is on his team when he passes Luke the ball and Luke tell you like I you know, I wasn't sure what to expect cuz like last year when I was watching him like if Luke got the ball Like they tried to like make sure like each kid got the ball and was allowed to like dribble it down
[SPEAKER_02]: the court like start the new point or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, like at least once.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was like, you know, maybe that was when Luke could get the ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he'd get a pass later on or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, he gets the bar right here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Takes a few dribbles, turns the basket, shoots, misses.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I was like, man, I came, like, I mean, he was shooting from about the foul line or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was a much bigger shot than I'd ever seen him take before, yeah, which was cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then the next trip down the court pretty much the exact same thing happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gus says the ball passes it to Luke who takes a dribble
[SPEAKER_02]: and shoot and it goes in and I mean I was I was on I could not believe I was so proud of him it was like like he with the amount of confidence that he as translated from like like last year to this year in his like on court I have the ball miss yeah was unbelievable that's that is so cool and honestly I feel like we should just like pause for a second to like play the audio of the clip
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like, this is like one of those moments where it's like, it'll be so great for Luke to watch this when he's older.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to see how to see how you felt watching him succeed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, it was so cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was going to get it on video, which was even better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, so immediately texting that to everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, indeed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so let's pause right here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, I'm so proud of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, now it's like the freezer out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it, I love it, it reminds me, I remember that we we talked before about the year in Carole and something our dad did growing up and there was like one video once upon a time where I like scored a goal in soccer and dad got it and like one of the other dads on the side line was like you got that dad and he was like I got it, you know, it's like it's it's so fun how like everyone is aware of how important it is to the like the child
[SPEAKER_00]: to have made this shot like that can be such like a like boost of confidence right in in life you know like to go and succeed in a sport yeah and then also just like for the parents who get to see their kid do the thing it's like the best thing ever yeah yeah it was great to see it out there like you know gusses pattern on the back and stuff and yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you just see his face and he was like, so like, oh my god, I did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: He took a few more shots under the rest of the money, but it was like the fact that he was getting them all dribbling shooting, you know, making an impact was all just very cool to watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, oh my gosh, you're like, grow it up a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty cool pretty pretty fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll also throw in a little funny story about Luke's friend Gus as well Who I would say is definitely one of the larger kids on the court and was I mean the other team had no chance against him Like they came down any past day through Gus was on the interception.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so he calls so many turnovers
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like you showed me the video, I'm sure of the story that you're about to tell of Gus playing point guard, which is the person who like bounce the ball down the court.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I sound like such a rookie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me explain how point guard works, but he's like walking down the court dribbling with such an air of complete confidence.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he frankly did, he's definitely the biggest kid out there, and you know, it's like, if you're like, you know, if he's coming at you, if he's like driven the ball at you, like, I probably get out of the way too if I was your size, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, it's the Gus is a big fan of Steph Curry who as you guys know So a big three or you may not know is a big three-point shooter That's like his speciality is like one of the most unbelievable three-point shooters in the history of the NBA Does he play the blink hard?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you see I was yeah We'll call back to my jump from before right look at me know I'm basketball You're new at the ex dad's like I he's like like bearing his face in his hands Yeah talk right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like you were not my basketball son
[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, Gus is coming down.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like 20 seconds left in the game or so and I can tell Gus keeps like checking the clock and I'm like I know what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to shoot.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to try and shoot like a buzzer meter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, like shoot it at the at the buzzer or whatever
[SPEAKER_02]: And he comes down and I guess he like is just dribbling waiting the clock out and the lane opens for him And he like charges the lane and tries to instead make a lay up doesn't go in But he gets his own rebound right at the three point line looks at the clock There's one second.
[SPEAKER_02]: He shoots as the buzzer goes and it goes in And I was like, oh my god, gosh, that was amazing It was pretty incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got that in video too, so
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at this, two, two, two, three!
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I mean, you know, every once in a while I feel like like SPN Top 10 will do something that like comes from high school or younger kids sports and stuff and it's just because something something cool in our market will happen and parents are always running their cameras.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you know, sometimes you get those things on on like on camera and to me, watch again, I was like, back in the SPN Top 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know because he's clearly walking down the court like running the clock had he's just sort of like bouncing the ball like walking back and forth like almost pacing with it right nobody's really charging him either like defend him they're sort of like yeah the game's over we got it yeah yep yep so it was it was pretty pretty adorable pretty amazing to see you
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean really just like, you know, these these young kids sort of like slowly morphing into being capable of like doing things like doing sports Yeah, it's like wow you guys are like actually doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It will not be long before You know, like they will be like proper competitive right exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know like right now There's still a lot of forgiveness for like double dribbling and stuff and unless you're taking like 10 steps traveling They're not gonna like blow you down or anything right And then you know the coaches are still on the court kind of walking with the kids like go stand over there
[SPEAKER_02]: All that, but it was a lot more than last year at the upward basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It made me feel like going to all of these games is just going to be something I'm just looking forward to all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I bet, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a small part of me because I've always been so curious.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've had our cousins and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: When we were growing up and we lived in Rocky Mountain, Virginia, it was like a part of the state that
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, didn't have access to like travel sports, at least when we were kids to the best of my knowledge.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Roanoke stars were there, which is a soccer team.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the, yes, but that would have been in Roanoke rather rather than like where we were.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we were, we were definitely not tracking up to Roanoke to like go and participate in that version of travel sports.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess some kids were.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but, you know, we had cousins and stuff who were like, you know, play like AAU, basketball or, you know, like just friends growing up who were all until like the travel soccer scene and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I'm so curious to see what it would be like if you or I ends up like in that circuit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, this week I would head over a little wherever.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got another tournament, sorry, there was a big yon in the middle of my sentence.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, head and over to wherever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, ever going to Nashville this weekend, you know, Luke's got like three games, you know, we'll see how it does.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it simply could be a cool, I mean, it's almost like touring where it's like it gives you a reason to like go to these cities.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, then while you're there, you have the amenities of the city, you can go and do like a children's museum or a fun restaurant or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sounds like it could be a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or I imagine there's times where it's like, you know, I doubt every single parent is going to every single tournament.
[SPEAKER_02]: True.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, or it's like, yeah, Luke's out this weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's with the team.
[SPEAKER_00]: With the team, yeah, we put it on the bus.
[SPEAKER_00]: From on the bus, see you later, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: That reminds me of, I think you were there for this, but the first statement that I competed in for cross country, we brought like, I feel like we're brought like an Xbox.
[SPEAKER_00]: up with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, we did.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were going to like play Xbox in the hotel room.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like well, we did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, but then we overslept the next morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the whole bus is like full.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we were like asleep in our house.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were asleep in our hotel rooms, which is like I never oversleep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know, it's, I mean, yeah, you especially, like I probably on some level, I was like, I'm gonna go Jay, like he, he'll make sure I'm there on time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, no, it was, that was a very embarrassing moment to like hear coach pounding on the door being like, get, oh, it wasn't, it wasn't even the coaches.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, who was it?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was John and Mike.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, was it really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I wish you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, because they come thundering into the room and they're like,
[SPEAKER_02]: And my immediate response to John pulling anything like this is you're just lying right like this is a this is the prank the prank is to come wake us up and freak us out right right is a very John move right and like it could but it's not you know This was actually a real situation, so he's like trying to convince us that this is real and I'm I'm still not like being urgent about it at all right right
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure we had to like pack all of our stuff so then we had to pack it all up including the Xbox which is entirely attached and it's all to the TV and stuff right Yeah, which then looks even worse when you're coming down and like sorry, we're late.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had to took us a second to pack up the Xbox You know, yeah, just like something clearly the coaches didn't want you to bring
[SPEAKER_00]: No, certainly not the whole idea because you the 15-year-old who's you know like at at the hotel or whatever You're like whoa freedom.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is so cool right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah play video games And of course the coach was like go to bed by like eight we have the most important meat of the entire
[SPEAKER_00]: season tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see about that coach.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're playing a next round of Slayer here, we're playing 99.
[SPEAKER_02]: So might be a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like this was such a thing with our cross-country team growing up was the length that seemed so acceptable that like in in my mind now would never seem acceptable.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like
[SPEAKER_00]: We would do summer runs.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this was like the other thing too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like at a very young age we started like doing like swim team and that meant that like you got to the end of school it was like the first you know day of summer like the first like Monday that you were like didn't have school or whatever and you were up at 730 in the morning to go swimming
[SPEAKER_00]: quite chilly swimming pool right right and it was on hadn't quite got over the trees yet that's right yep so it was like you know it's like I felt like there were days we were like getting like moms many abandoned little like thermostat and like a center console would say like you know 64 degrees you know it's 64 degrees and we're going to swim practice outside that's right it's like that doesn't sound very fun at all um but we did it you know we did it you
[SPEAKER_00]: And then as we got older, it was sort of like, okay, like no more swim team now we're doing cross country, which means we have summer runs starting the first Monday of summer break and this is really summer, right, you know, that's the thing, yeah, that's the thing, I'm like, you know, like you have these like 18 years of your life or the summer is supposed to be this like sickered window of time, you know, like whatever you worry or man.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it seemed like we, we, we, you know, got them all.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do run and swim and stuff?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, yeah, ridiculous, ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's actually pretty great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was good for us, but it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm still swimming now, so whenever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing about the summer runs was that they were like, they were this bizarre blend.
[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't be required to be mandatory.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like the, there was kind of this like big,
[SPEAKER_00]: culture of the team thing where it was like you do the summer runs you don't skip the summer runs you need to go and be there technically nobody can require you to be there but you should be there especially if you have any intention of being like the varsity squad but like to that end though if you didn't go and you were fast enough there's no way you wouldn't have been
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way in the world that you could run varsity times and not be on the varsity squad, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think probably happened somewhere in the mix of the whole thing, but the thing that I would remember happening would be that like if there if there was ever like a day where like I stayed up later when it's like a movie premiere the night before
[SPEAKER_00]: like you know just something and I was like deciding to like not go to the to the morning run.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was more than one occasion where I was awoken to the entire men's cross-country team in my bedroom like screaming at me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know be like or like pounding on my bed or you know like whatever and it's like I am literally fully asleep in bed in my whole team is in my room.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like this is so weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but sure enough then you would like get up or she's on like run out the door and out the door.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know and and that was that was that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, it was it was just pure
[SPEAKER_00]: Pure ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was the that was the culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't miss the practice and Never sleep in the summer ever I guess never ever yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you want to watch the Tour de France too bad You can come on and watch the red man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's your morning transition transition
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Jay, you may notice that I am wearing kind of a form of shirt today.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have noticed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, yes, very right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very eye catching.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is kind of a fun thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today, officially, tickets are going on sale for a collaboration that we are doing with the Rocket City Trash Pandas minor league baseball team.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am so stoked about what this is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so we, we've been doing our podcast touring through the Gryffindor.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been going all over the country.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done the northeast and southeast and we're doing the southwest and we've done the Midwest and the west coast and, you know, we've, how many shows we've done like 28 different shows?
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: We bounce all over the country and we got reached out to by the trash pandas, which is like famously one of the most beloved minor league baseball teams in the United States because they rebranded into the trash pandas somewhere along the way and it's this like fun rocket city because this is like, you know, there's like a NASA station in Madison, Alabama or Huntsville, Alabama, like where
[SPEAKER_00]: And they do a Harry Potter night once a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like one of their like themed, you know, game nights for their home game.
[SPEAKER_02]: And apparently it's like their most popular theme nights.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is their most popular game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is like the most successful thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so successful last year that they ended up doing now this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing two nights of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But on the first night on Saturday, May 23rd,
[SPEAKER_00]: Jay and I are going to be going down with the rest of the team, and we are going to be doing a live episode of through the Griffin door.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you've seen any of our live shows before, then it's like we are doing a through the Griffin tour show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: With Jay vs Ben, meet and greet the whole nine y'all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, tickets are $75, but that gets you access to the through the Griffin door performance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is like like a buffet meal included in that access to the game and like whatever swag that is included You know that night for for the event.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's gonna be like some kind of trash pandas melded together with Harry Potter themed something That's right, you know, so that'll be really cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's there only 150 tickets total
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so act fast so act fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so if you're interested in going we're gonna be there I think like the families are coming down like it's just gonna be fun It's gonna be like a whole party.
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot I cannot wait for this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love going to baseball games I don't watch baseball almost ever, but I love going to baseball games
[SPEAKER_00]: Same and and I don't know absolutely absolutely, but when it asks them But we first had like the introduction phone calls like is there any way we could like through the first pitch?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were like they're like we could talk about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is so cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I so we get to
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know, so this is just like one of those situations where it's like, it's an off-the-wall collaboration.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can call it like a full-blown tour because it's just one day.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but we're going to be down there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be so much fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is Memorial Day weekend.
[SPEAKER_00]: So some people already have that long weekend situation going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: if you need to do some travel in to come out right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll have the link in the show notes, the description of the video, wherever you're watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: So be sure to check it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: We would love to come and see you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's gonna be again.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Rocket City Crash Pandas on May 23rd, we'll see you there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, cannot wait to see you there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be so fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Jay, I need to tell you about a cool, but potentially cool, new, anxiety coping mechanism, mindfulness thing that I discovered the other day, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: I was sitting at my house like Alice had gone to bed early and I was just sort of like watching a movie and sort of like you know looking up things on my phone doing as I do Right the the common how to deal with anxiety right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, usually it's like I feel like it hits me at night a lot It isn't the anxiety anxiety.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know like sometimes when you get like like what moon get like a head cold or whatever you drink your body armor Obviously, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're out of the store pick up your favorite flavor
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but I feel like a lot of times when you have like a head cold, it's like you can get through the day I feel like reasonably well and then like by the time you get to like night, it's like you start to feel real bad right like that's when it like starts to hit like hit you square and there's those as you're like hey, I'm
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not feeling so good and it turns out you were holding it together really hard for work, but once your body is like, oh, we're home time to take yes, time to time to time to just like disintegrate into a puddle of right Goop, yeah, human human human goop, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably it
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so anyway, now I'm just I was just poking around and I found something called the 333 rule and this is like just like a like a way to like almost like pause your brain to like take a moment and just sort of like I don't know if it's like a like a way to distract yourself from the present or to like focus on the present or like why it works or what's happening, but I did it and I was like whoa
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I can't believe how well that worked.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, it was almost like I got like hit with like a wave of like hand-tinglees.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I told Alice to try it this morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was like, whoa, and I was like, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so anyway, here's what you're supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: The 333 rule is you are supposed to stop pause list three sounds that you can hear.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like you would you would like sit quietly and like listen and be like okay I can heard like I can hear like birds chirping I can hear the air conditioning running and I can hear my room above vacuum vacuuming or something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've like identified three sounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you find three objects in the room.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like for me, like what I'm doing it, I'm like almost looking for three objects that like feel like three special objects that like I can see, you know, so like, it's like, okay, there's like a spare camera lens, you know, sitting right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like my clear, cool subwoofer situation and our EV skateboard, you know, where three objects I can see.
[SPEAKER_00]: in the room around me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I try to find like three special things instead of just like three just objects.
[SPEAKER_00]: So find three things and then identify three moving limbs in the room.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so like as I'm like sitting on my couch last night, I was sort of like sitting there like tapping my foot.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to count that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look over my dog.
[SPEAKER_00]: Indie was laying in front of the fire and she was like having a dream.
[SPEAKER_00]: So she was sort of doing that like
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, Jolty, vibrating type of whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I counted that and then I was in the room by myself and it was just, you know, me and Indy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then I just literally held up my hand and just bent my finger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I also make it happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, big thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you need to do three things and you need to find three examples of each of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So three sounds, three objects, three moving limbs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I did the practice, like in this moment where I was like feeling anxious because I was looking for
[SPEAKER_00]: you know a result like a way to solve right anxiety that I was feeling in that moment and I was like whoa like it worked that's like I feel like a little bit better that's awesome um I know and and it's funny because like I think my whole life have always been like a deep breather yeah so like when I'm like really nervous about something or overwhelmed I will be like I will be like right
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like, and that, that sometimes is like what I'm supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure all I'm really doing there, just like taking a moment, you know, just right to breathe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so anyway, I was like, I feel like I'm just in the share with the world, because I wonder if it would work for other people, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard of stuff like this before, where it's like, like, yeah, four things.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see three things.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can hear two things.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can smell one thing you can touch or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that also sounds like a neat way to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, people out there need to, or even you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe I should keep it a whirl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's definitely days like even yesterday Like I got home and I like battles like what's wrong with wrong your face looks like it's something It's like you're mad or you're sad and it's like I don't know I do know what you mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can feel it in my face, but I just I don't even I don't even know I don't even know the problem like why why feeling way just is Don't know nothing you just me
[SPEAKER_00]: I like this fragmented conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me communicate all the important bits.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what's wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's such an interesting one.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the importance of validating the person who believes something is wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because I can feel it sometimes when like Beth will notice it about me and I'm
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't put a name to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is I don't know if this is a thing or not, but I feel like for me oftentimes I will have a harder time saying what's wrong without like prompting and so you know, it's like like we would be like asking somebody like
[SPEAKER_00]: Is everything okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's almost like them asking the question allows you to be like, you know, I am a little stressed about something versus like if you're just sitting in a quiet room being like, guys, I'm stressed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it feels like so disjointed, it's now out of place, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because almost like an inappropriate thing that just like announced to an empty room, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But if somebody is like
[SPEAKER_00]: Ask the question.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've granted you permission to share what you're feeling and so I think for me It's almost like this thing where I'm like you really can't ask people if they're doing okay Too much, you know like like I feel like a lot of times I'm sort of like it's like holding the door for somebody It's like you may hold the door for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay You talk about we can do that And this is what I have found has been helpful too is like sometimes
[SPEAKER_02]: I will be sitting there in Beth can tell I'm like lost in some sort of thought or whatever or like I'm having like a conversation in my head or whatever Right should be like just say it should like just say it out loud Okay, I was like well, just but I'll say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like but like it'll be something that I was obviously to like guarded about or something that I just wasn't
[SPEAKER_02]: or still working through, which is like it doesn't even matter if you're still working through, it would just say it out loud, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, but I find that I can sometimes use this with the kids as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: not always for like anxiety necessary purposes, but a lot of times it will just sort of cut through the the what's the word I'm looking for cut through cut through the cheese of the the the situation cut the cheese cut the yeah the cuts that are just just straight out there nice no but like sometimes like it'll be you know before dinner or something again
[SPEAKER_02]: Nick and like they'll come out and be like, I'm hungry and I'll be like, you know, oh, we're having dinner, you know, as if dinner will solve your problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like what they really mean is I want to eat a very specific thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they are like really hoping that just by telling me they're hungry, I'll be like, whoa, what have I made your corn dog, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or like, you know, what would be good right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe some twizzlers, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, they don't want to say what it is because they know it's something they already know it's something I'm going to say never to right right So I said they're sort of now dancing around it like you know it's like oh you want's okay You I think we have some like yogurt shakes you're gonna cheese or something and we like I don't want that and it's like okay Because you said you were hungry and This would be good and you like those things
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, you want to like the pirate booty, you want the chips, you want the whatever else it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a snack.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I this I've been having this with with adolescent lately where she's like, I'm hungry and I'm like, you know, chill bill.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, what do you want?
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, well, what do we have?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I think it's the exact same thing where it's like she's she's like, why don't you suggest it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if I say I want gummies, you're probably going to say no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but maybe if I'm just like I say no to everything force you to say gummies You said it on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You said it on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't want to put in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know what a one apple.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't want a cucumber.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I want?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, she's not hungry, she just wants gummies.
[SPEAKER_02]: She just wants gummies.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them had to be like, just say what you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just what is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, cut straight to the chase.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what I meant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's the chase.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is interesting, too, because like, like, I would say that, like, I'm a pretty sensitive person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, in fact, to the point where there is like, I don't even know if this is like a real thing or if it's ever been like clinically diagnosed, but there is at least a term that exists somewhere on the internet that would refer to it HSP, a highly sensitive person.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's like, it's it's not considered like any type of like a fliction or anything like that, that's probably the wrong word, a diagnosis.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think like 25% of people would be considered.
[SPEAKER_00]: HSPs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, highly sensitive people or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that in certain aspects of my life, I can get hit really hard by like negative feedback or commentary or like, you know, we're on, we published up to the internet for living.
[SPEAKER_00]: You are subjecting your thoughts to the entire belief systems and whatever else, moral compass of the people of the interweb.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's like, you can do your best.
[SPEAKER_00]: to be somebody that can like make all people happy, but like inevitably, I could say, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: like a color or whatever is the best color and a percentage of people will be like yeah he's absolutely right and then the other people who like all the other colors learning both like no you're absolutely wrong you know and it's like you can't always say something that's going to please everyone right and so it's like I think what's tricky about negative feedback on the internet is that like if you were to hear every piece of negative feedback that
[SPEAKER_00]: Like take that advice and make the change so that it would satisfy the person you would self-destruct Oh, absolutely because you would be pulled it would be like greens the best color No blues the best color.
[SPEAKER_00]: How can green and blue both be the best color?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right somehow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to hold both of these truths at the same time without Offending team blue or team green, you know, like like it's it's so hard and so I think a lot of times like you know through like a negative comment or whatever That can be really difficult to
[SPEAKER_00]: cope with because I can't change for the person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, it's like, even if a part of me wants to, like, I can see your feedback.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if I say team blue, I'm turning my back on team green.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I say team green, like, why is I'm turning my back on team blue?
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, I can't make both of you happy at once.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, I'm team nothing, you know, and if enough time goes on, you would probably have to become team nothing on everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because there are two sides that were cooling, and there's probably somebody out there who's always going to have an opposing opinion about something you said.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, cutting to the chase, I feel like when I'm in conversations like with you or Alice or Mom and Dad or people who are close to me in my life, if they've got feedback for me, sometimes I'm almost like, make it hurt.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do I need?
[SPEAKER_01]: Make it hurt.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, give me the feedback that I need here to be a better person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, you know, and it's sort of like that I so I think that's like my version of like cut to the chase.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like don't answer around it You know, you don't need to show your code it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What am I what am I doing wrong?
[SPEAKER_02]: What am I doing wrong?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I can fix it for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, or someone I care about fixing it for example.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's not even a clear about the commenters.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just you couldn't you like you can.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because there's there it's like you will end up going down conflicting pathways
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's up what you just have to like, you know, I guess like, you know, no, no, what you stay in for and Yeah, sort of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I know that's also that's so tricky.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is tricky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah feels like that's a that's an ever-shifting landscape of it is That's for sure
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think the other thing too for me is like I would have almost thought I knew what I stood for up until like age like 21 Right, and then almost everything about what I thought I stood for got flipped on its head and it was like, oh, I'm not like that person anymore and now what do I do?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I regret being that other person or do I just have a glad that it got me here?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think you have to like regret being that other person that's just like you can recognize your own growth and you don't have to be like a shamed of that sort of thing because I think the real the greater like the evil out there or the greater like problem is the like insane tribalism that exists that can exist on the internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: where it's like, you're right, you're like, oh, I can't say a green because then blue, but if I can't say blue because then green, right, you know, right, it's like you're afraid you're going to offend the other people and like really in a best case scenario, you like people are just like have common, you know, respect or whatever and it's just sort of like I understand that you prefer blue to green for these reasons.
[SPEAKER_02]: I still prefer a green, but like that's okay, like you know, and that is the more like that is how it like really should be like you should be able to like respect people's differing opinions rather than hating them over those sort of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And but because because people tend to fight and get crazy and, you know, I mean, you've seen a million comment arguments that are just going nowhere fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Out on the out on the social media is or whatever, but like those are I think part of what makes them so unproductive is that people are so not if they're like one people are afraid to ever admit that they were wrong, but not not
[SPEAKER_02]: like, but mostly I think because they are afraid that it will crack their entire identity, and that it'll be like, it's not like, because it's not a matter of like being told you're wrong, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if someone disagrees with you,
[SPEAKER_02]: on the internet and you can kind of like even see like you see it all the time it'll be like that was a bad thing this person will be like no um like i have excuses for that thing this isn't a bad thing it'll be like it's right there it's a bad thing that puppy got shot in the face you know you know whatever it is it's doesn't look a bad thing right you're like it's right there what earth are you like what are you talking about and they're like but i i just you know
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I feel like I've sort of been on the side of this other thing, and now I can't, I can't walk away from that, because everyone's going to think I'm doing, they'll be like, yeah, it'll mean I was wrong for so long, like they fear their own hypocrisy, I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is so hard to overcome, and especially when it feels the other side is just yelling at you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I think the thing is what you have to know is that,
[SPEAKER_02]: the other people want to like you you can be forgiven for thinking for having been on the quote unquote wrong side, you know, like that is okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is okay to admit that you have been wrong about the belief or to change your mind at all and like
[SPEAKER_02]: it won't mean that you're betraying your past self.
[SPEAKER_02]: It won't mean that you're like a bad person that you were stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: It meant you were working with the information that you had and now you
[SPEAKER_02]: people are going to continue to scream at you, even though you are now agreeing with them, then that speaks about them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But more often than not, people want to forgive you for those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that has to be like the disagreement is with arms wide open, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I definitely agree with where you're coming from because like this is this is almost like where You know, you can't frustrated when people go through and like scrape like if Like I think there was like a just to use an example.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think like when Travis Kelsey started dating Taylor Swift People started going through like scraping like his old tweets and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: They try to find like some where in his past where he had like said something that might be like considered Uncoothe or inappropriate or
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, whatever, because you're dealing with one of the most high-profile relationships just like on the planet, you know, hard stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in terms of the public eye.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that type of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it's like, one of those things where I think that really, we could probably all agree that, are we building, we were, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I say, like, we do the whole checks, the reds.
[SPEAKER_02]: We might have, we might have gone dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, it appears we may have had a technical
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure if we're still filming or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: We might be on just the logo at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're watching on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes indeed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, but so you're dealing with such a ridiculously high profile, you know, set of people basically in some of the relationships.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, oh, have they ever set anything like it might be considered like bad?
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, at the end of the day, I think,
[SPEAKER_00]: You know like growth is the is like the biggest thing like if you're going to stay mad at people for who they were in all past iterations of Themselves then like then then like what's the point of being mad at them?
[SPEAKER_00]: at all because if you're mad at them it's because you want them to have a different opinion but if they change to that opinion and you're going to hold them accountable for the opinion that they held before that then it's almost like well then then what were you asking for in the first place and that guy's oh you wanted to do was be right all you want to do was be right and and this is this is where like sometimes I even think that like
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is that we're really talking about like the absolute extreme ends of spectrums here, but I tend to believe that like the extreme ends of spectrums instead of it being like a big long line with like dashes on either side of it being like this is all the way blue and this is all the way green.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more like a circle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost like the extremes leave really close to each other and given a slightly different life circumstance, this person on this extreme green might just be an extreme blue if they just happened to have had a slightly different set of life experiences.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were always trained people.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were always going to be extreme about their opinions and values and thoughts and everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just depends on which side.
[SPEAKER_00]: What they were more exposed to and it's almost like, but the rest of it is sort of like more like a like an aspect of like their personality Right, I think right, you know, I know what you mean So it's like that's that's like the even like the thin line between like love and hate like I tend to think that it's like You're so extreme blue that you don't realize that like the minor exchange would make you an extreme green right right like you're so close
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like it sounds like we're using not so clever code for politics.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not specifically referring to politics for what it's worth.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like I suspect like any NFL sports team, any pro sports team of any kind, probably has a hardcore dedicated group of fans that ends up on the jumbo tron at every single home game because they paint themselves, gold or blue or blue.
[SPEAKER_00]: whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: They show up wearing a grinch costume.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a thing that they do and the team knows that the stadium knows it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You expect to see him week in week out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got front row seats somehow.
[SPEAKER_00]: They travel to all the away games.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got a giant championship belt that they carry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they bleed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just we use our team.
[SPEAKER_00]: They bleed the commander's colors.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but I tend to believe that if that person grew up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, then they'd be rocking a cheese head and they would know doubt.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'd be front row at Lambo Field.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That close to just being that they were always going to be a crazy extreme NFL fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, and it happens to be the case that the one that they grew up with or the one who's team their dad liked or mom liked or whatever You know, it's like the one that they that they migrated to wherever they found themselves feeling at home Right, you know, but but the the near one is oftentimes the one you have
[SPEAKER_00]: And therefore, it's the default answer to the question, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm sure that there are people somewhere in the world that were born in Houston, Texas that moved to Green Bay with conson specifically to be a diehard Packers fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but, but I bet also a lot of the diehard Packers fans grew up.
[SPEAKER_02]: ingreen bay was constant right and then it's sort of like are you a or you would die hard Packers fan or would you have always been a die hard sports fan right right right right I mean, I feel like if you know like if we moved to I don't know Seattle Seattle
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I could easily just be a Z-Ox fan, you know, but like what I always be like also be in like how the commander's doing No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, the loud noises, the celebrations, the camaraderie, the songs, you know, it's all just, it's all just fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to be there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I had one close to me, you better believe I'd be at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd go all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd go all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but like on on the same note, like if you were, you know, I say Seattle's a great example because it's like I have no, I'm just going to the game with Seattle, but if it was like we moved to like Dallas or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it would be like, this is much harder, uh, total swallow.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be tricky.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it would be like, can I, I have rooted against the Cowboys for literally my entire life?
[SPEAKER_02]: Jay, it's, is it, it could, could I just be like, yeah, but, you know, like, if I moved there and someone was like, you know what, hey, it's part of this company you work for now, you get season tickets, it's fantastic, you know, you'd be a Cowboy fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be like, well.
[SPEAKER_00]: maybe it's just time, you know, like, I think I mean, I think what wouldn't end up happening is you'd go begrudgingly like the first few times and then eventually you would get to know, right, you would get to the know the culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because that's not bad people.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly how that people and I say it all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I was growing up,
[SPEAKER_00]: We were Virginia Tech fans, which meant that our in-state rival, the University of Virginia, which is otherwise a phenomenal school that great people go to when come out of and all that type of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, but like, when I was a child, I believe that who they were was like unethical.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that they were actively bad people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, they're bad people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, of course, we don't like them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're bad people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like the older I got, I was like, no, these are, these are kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, and of course for the longest time when you're a literal child.
[SPEAKER_00]: collegiate athletes seem like full blown adults to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then when you're 35 and you're looking at the 19-year-old who's starting for the same like kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: They seem like kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the the perspective has changed a bit and it's like they're just this is the best opportunity that life afforded them and it was the right path for them to go down and they happen to throw on a blue jersey instead of a maroon one and that doesn't make them a bad human being.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also
[SPEAKER_00]: a university of Virginia fan, instead of a Virginia tech fan, and I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't change the detail.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it faces this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's difficult when it goes to the sports, but it's like, I say that, but then it's also like, you know, if any of my kids wanted to go to UVA, I would be like, and then they got in and went there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be so proud of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would you would don't march.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have the
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like if one of our kids ends up at Hidden Valley.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could you imagine?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe maybe I just like bring a bottle of ranch dressing to every game to be self-aware.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you got to lean into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to take back the ranch.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to take back the rain.
[SPEAKER_02]: We sell ranch dogs at the snack shack.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're sponsored by Hidden Mallory Ranch.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dressing everything you buy the concession stand comes with a side of ranch.
[SPEAKER_00]: You will everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't it be so silly if the jerseys were like like kind of like an off white color of like little like black Blacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be hilarious.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would it would probably
[SPEAKER_00]: actually look kind of cool, but it would be like are there jerseys or ranch dressing?
[SPEAKER_00]: They are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for noticing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, since the internet he didn't value.
[SPEAKER_00]: I dug into my, you know, my, my, my, my, my Roth IRA to pull some funds out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I could sponsor the team pro.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I brought it full circle again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice financial advice there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you really.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's all it's all working out nicely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway guys, I think that's going to bring us the end of this week's episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't forget that we're going to be at the Rocket City trash pandas where you two could go watch through the
[SPEAKER_00]: And you get access to the game, which is going to be Harry Potter night, which is going to just be, you know, having a good old fashion time and maybe just maybe you can see Jay and I do our absolute best to hook a, yeah, to throw a pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: or we'll pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Could be good stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Could be embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you never know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can make them not top 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, guys, thank you so much for as always for tuning in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Until next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today's episode was edited by Isabel Crisley.
[SPEAKER_00]: Vaishan Brandon does our art.
[SPEAKER_00]: Katherine Stein is our production manager