[SPEAKER_02]: We have a video for the intro for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Heaven has a voice out.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, oh, it's like a podcast like a 90's TV show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like early 2000's TV show.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's catchy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Nigel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to your weekly meeting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully you get out of prison soon and you can post that YouTube video.
[SPEAKER_03]: Any regrets?
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you can post yours soon too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a question.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where in the seven stages are you?
[SPEAKER_04]: Of grief.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been done of grief.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it grief?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody somebody just set up the comments.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like Nigel's calling in from prison to say hi to his friends once a week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, Nigel, I'll show you something.
[SPEAKER_00]: I made some liquid oxygen just a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I want to show you before only one glass.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thirsty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I just turned it on this morning, but Wow, look at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's blue.
[SPEAKER_00]: You see that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you see that?
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you give me a hit, you just got to put some ozone into it and get really cold.
[SPEAKER_04]: That'd be if it was on my fingers, it would lighten for us, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's almost liquid nitrogen called.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want some in there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but some my look, Roy, what's the worst thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, don't pour.
[SPEAKER_03]: you pour it into something that's like a fuel.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's always just going to be there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's pour it on the ground and set it on fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: Does La Croix burn with oxygen in it?
[SPEAKER_04]: What if the flavor?
[SPEAKER_04]: There's like a small amount of flammable flavor?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I drink this once it stops smoking?
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's anything on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I should be fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to wait for it to stop smoking.
[SPEAKER_04]: What does oxygen smell like?
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like it smells like grapefruit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it smells like life It's crazy right the oxygen smells like grapefruit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, flavored ox.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's weird We should write this down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that discover you want to have this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Yeah, I feel the same as an ASMR This probably is in good fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you hear him John?
[SPEAKER_01]: He hear me
[SPEAKER_01]: You got an alert, a limiter, is it screaming right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, John says it's too quiet to hear.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's fine?
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened if you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, John says my mic sounds different.
[SPEAKER_04]: So is it, it's, we're going to super cool it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it looks like the, the mic, the pickup or whatever you would call that is on the top.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the oxygen would make the diaphragm cold.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to fucking destroy this money.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe the sound is better from a distance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Science.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, this sounds crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Hold.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's vibrating.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it like humming right now?
[SPEAKER_04]: Kevin just poured liquid oxygen on the microphone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have been actually... Can you hear me better?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or worse?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was actually really afraid that it was going to break the diaphragm or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like contracted too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe if I yell really loud, yeah, it's brittle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, George.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get broke with John's.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just the only you destroyed was the cat of the sound man's ear.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see any more smoke coming out of this sparkling water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Experiment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Colder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Myth busted.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, tell us about your oxygen generator.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, well, me making this oxygen.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just like go on Amazon and you buy oxygen?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like steal it from the air.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a Craigslist thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I borrow it from the air and I'm going to give it back later.
[SPEAKER_04]: you give it back or it takes it so it takes it back.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wants to be free.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is actually a huge win because the cryocooler I bought from somebody on the safety third discord channel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are we talking shit right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: It broke.
[SPEAKER_04]: It broke you.
[SPEAKER_04]: And was it a brass acts brass acts.
[SPEAKER_04]: You sold Kevin a defective cryocooler.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's no way he could have known it was a spring.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so the whole cryocooler, it has this like vibration dampener on top of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like in the hotel, how it was like vibration dampeners and for earthquakes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like a little coil spraying or least spraying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like a helical spring.
[SPEAKER_00]: They come flexures.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or a flat coil.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it broke.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the arms of it broke from like metal teague.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was working fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is a minute of like some special alloy?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's stainless steel, but it's magnetic.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also like springy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it supposed to be magnetic?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, I mean, whatever alloy it is just, yeah, but it's like a magnetic stainless steel that's also springy, so it doesn't arrow it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that broke I had to make a new one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have any that secret sauce alloy, so I just used a, uh, the saw blade.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just used a 3D printer and make a really thick one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because then it would add more mass to the system, and I would have to wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't in that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: What does this do?
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't in math.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it has a weight.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's two springs, and in the middle of it, there's a weight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is happening?
[SPEAKER_00]: So it has the piston moves up and down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's like in the cryocooler.
[SPEAKER_00]: This weight also moves up and down to counteract it.
[SPEAKER_00]: To counteract it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the spring is like the spring broke.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it threw the resonance of that shaking weight off.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole thing started vibrating across my garage floor.
[SPEAKER_00]: The $3,000 cryocooler.
[SPEAKER_04]: It has to be tuned, like the spring and the mask have to be tuned.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can like adjust the mask up and down if I'm... Yeah, from the factory, there's like some washers stacked on top of the assembly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing that's how they find tuned it, because it vibrates at 60 Hz, like with line frequency.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, there's software, there is software that can like adjust it between 58 and 62 Hz.
[SPEAKER_04]: you can like bring the frequency down to reach resonance instead of yeah so that's what's okay so this it's a sterling engine right i'm assuming yeah and the way the sterling engine works i built this i must sterling engine expert i built one in high school um is you have like a chamber and one side of the chamber is heated and the other side is cooled and then you have a piston that displaces the air in the chamber and so if you push the piston down it displaces the air up to the top
[SPEAKER_04]: Which then causes the air to heat up or cool down, which then causes the piston to expand or the piston to go up or down, which then continues the cycle, which pulls the Pip-up like plunger up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so it's like displacing the air and then heats the air up, which then causes it to shrink, it's like it's like an engine that heats and cools the air instead of combusting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it has like a radiator on the hot side up top where like compresses the helium uses helium because normal air would like freeze or live by don't like compresses the the air heats up goes through this radiator just like a ring copper foil and then it comes back down and like what is it expands the helium down below which gets really cold like so cold it can freeze everything but helium.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it like makes once of like if it's like a sterling engine can generate movement from a temperature differential, yeah, like the ones you can buy online you put like a cup of coffee on the bottom and like ice cube on the top.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so then the coffee will heat the air up when the plunger is on the cold side or the plunger's like the displacement, what do they what do they call it just place or the diaphragm and the displacement piston doesn't I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and then if you do, if you drive the sterling engine, yeah, this one uses, it's like a speaker coil.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like it's like really small or something or is it how much moon is there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, about 10 mill, like yeah, it's pretty small.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a centimeter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's pretty dark for a speaker or no, maybe not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but but it's wide.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you drive it up and down, it like one side will become hot and you know, it'll become cold.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so then the hot side is exposed to air here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and the cool thing is like sealed, but yeah, there is like a radiator up top that gets rid of the heat that's generated like at the top of the assembly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then at the bottom, it's cold, it's like pumping the heat from the bottom by just moving a thing up and down to compress.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, press here.
[SPEAKER_04]: We, how does that?
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just compressing the, I mean, what Kevin said, all the cryo coolers as far as I know, like, I mean, for the most part, they work similarly.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just compress compressed gas, it gets hot, so they dump the heat somewhere and then they expand it and then moving.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or this one, there's a lot of different design just has one, but there are like two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think the, I think the two stage one is like the easiest to understand this thrilling engine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you have like two pists.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have a piston and a displacer.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like as the pists.
[SPEAKER_04]: So as the, when you, when you push the piston down, it's compressing the air in the chamber and moving the displacer up to the, happens to be compressor.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's hot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it moves the piston to the hot, the displacer to the cold side.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so pushes this air which has now gotten hot because the piston compressed it up to the hot plate and then that's like getting like whipped off into the air on the outside into the environment.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it kind of cools back down, you know, ideally to like room temperature something.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then when the piston retracts and it's all like on a timing cycle like an engine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then the air all of a sudden can expand or the working gas can expand which causes it to get cold and like as it's getting cold That displacement piston is like pulling up to the hot shoving all this air that's getting cold down to the cold plate And so it's like moving the heat from the cold plate up to the hot plate and so it's like shoving the air in between It's actually like really cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so simple, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool, nice, fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get the fuck out of here with that shit and they say it has five watts of heat left
[SPEAKER_04]: What does that mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: That means it can get rid of five watts of heat, but it so it's like what 200 watts of energy going to it to make five watts of heat.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like yeah 60 what incandescent bulb is actually got one watt of light lift.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty brutal like my cryocular.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think is rated at eight kilowatts.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it does in total cooling power.
[SPEAKER_03]: It depends on what temperature it's at, but in like equivalent, let's say like liquid nitrogen temperatures, it's probably sub 100 watts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the ratios are not.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think so amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like has to be really well insulated because like anything will like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, five watts is like.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have a lot of headroom for like leaps.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what's kind of crazy is the, um, because I have a liquid helium.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I have a liquid helium crowd cooler.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I have a little station thing I talked about from the GC surplus.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you do the, if you do the calculations, I don't want to give too many spoilers away.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_03]: it it basically to get if you want the um the crowd cooler to get to absolute zero or will not absolutely zero.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to get like four Kelvin.
[SPEAKER_03]: It it only has one watt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, at four Kelvin of cool actually it has 1.5 watts at like 3.5 Kelvin or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like you don't have much room for actual liquid helium cooling power and the problem is if you don't have a very good vacuum in your door jacket.
[SPEAKER_03]: It will be easily more than a watt.
[SPEAKER_04]: The doer can conduct out like multiple watts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then the like just can only be multiple watts.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you like four or watts of heat conduction out and five watts, you're done.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're like actually only getting one watt of blue power.
[SPEAKER_03]: But with the liquid helium, you have 1.5 watts or like basically one ish watt.
[SPEAKER_03]: at a bit below liquid helium temperatures.
[SPEAKER_03]: So even they get to the point where they use special temperature probes because the heat generated from putting electricity through the temperature probe will actually measureably reduce your liquid helium production.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've noticed that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they have like little techniques on they only tested once every 30 seconds.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not a continuous thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I should do that because right now I I can my thermocouple is like it's getting it never gets down to the right temperature so the machine is like it looks at the temperature and decides like how hard to run the machine because it doesn't want to like go full power if it's not down to temperature yet because it'll like move the piston up and down too much and slap like the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see the videos on like the crowd cooler you have?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure where it's like you have to ramp the wattage very slowly and you never put it above a certain amount.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's because you'll look.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you'll explode it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll like it'll start moving it up and down too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be like clap clap clap clap clap clap.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like free springs inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you don't want to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's interesting because like sterling engines are way more efficient than like internal combustion engine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I don't know the exact number, but it doesn't matter in this case because the temperature differential is so big.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the bigger your temperature difference for the less efficient it becomes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like if you're like I think you could get it gets really it gets cold really fast down to like you know it starts condensing like freezing water to it within like five seconds.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then getting like blow, like water freezing temperatures and blow and blow and blow is like harder and harder and harder.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so you like, it makes sense that you lose all this efficiency, but it's funny because if you put a swimming engine in the car, which I think has been done in the past, you get a crazy amount of efficiency out of your fuel because you're just using the heat.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like what happened?
[SPEAKER_04]: What is the car doing when you get rid of?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when it's combusting fuel like what 60% of the energy is lost is he and so then if you have an engine that runs off of heat, but I think the the problem with sterling engine like, you know, in a vehicle is it sort of actually just like not what you want in a car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because it doesn't respond quickly and you might have to have like a much bigger engine here at the same amount of power out of it, I remember in high school, you know, it would be good for a trainer something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, potentially like a ship, but you know, there's nobody, you know, it's like it's cheaper.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess feels so cheap.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they would have done it if it actually is one of those things, or it's like it's not some secret mystery that nobody's looked at before.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like they have.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it's hard to scale.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like in high school you're like, yeah, like that's like what if they like put that on a car and so that you like are generating extra power off the yeah, the engines heat and then the CIA comes up and shoot you yeah, the She oil kills you right and I don't know water guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, did they come up supposedly really yeah what was his name
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the HHO guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I forget his name.
[SPEAKER_04]: He probably died of just drugs that he was doing recreationally in the story was really refined to figure out the FBI.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but yeah, what if you take a string and you didn't like stick it on a car engine so like the heat from a car engine then gets turned into electricity and goes into the batteries it is a good idea, but I think it's also one of those ideas that when you do the math you realize that it's a really stupid idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like practically right why don't cars have solar panels just to keep the total battery You know honestly Charged maybe that maybe that one actually is a good idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't need to touch my car to seem to keep the battery from dying with the fuck
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I find like it is kind of funny when you look into a lot of those things that you think are kind of dumb or stupid and then you find out the reason why it's not done and usually what Kevin just said there's like some practicality thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That usually explains it and you're like, oh, okay, well, well, damn.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, that's just the way it is, I guess.
[SPEAKER_04]: The euphoria I had last night when I came to this idea was completely wasted and meaningless.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't we put solar panels over all of the parking lot?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a good idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is that a bad idea?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: That just one of those ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because my car gets really hot.
[SPEAKER_04]: When I park in parking lots.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we could use the solar panels to run air conditioning to keep your cars cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's where they put them on like Tesla chargers.
[SPEAKER_04]: The solar panels over the parking spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, why not put him on top of because who's I mean, because nobody's going to pay for that investment like a grocery store or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, the grocery isn't pay for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the land owner that that rents the land of the grocery.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think let's hear it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: You mean land?
[SPEAKER_04]: I just get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Land chads.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's like, if you had a grocery store parking lot, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And you wanted to cover the parking spots with solar panels, that's the person who owns the land.
[SPEAKER_04]: The grocery store doesn't own the land.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they'll never do that because they don't have to.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they can just keep making money off of the grocery sort of renting the parking lot and renting the land.
[SPEAKER_04]: Live like no reason to install a cool thing like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why we don't have solar panels on cars because big batteries, once they're big batteries and cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I do think I understand why they don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think solar panels on cars might be a bad idea because it's like another thing to break.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it all breaks anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just a small one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just, you know, take what you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have the license plate, a mechanism that flips the license plate over when the car is just a solar panel, do get rid of the sun roof and put a solar panel there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then it can leak and electric.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Once the sun roof leaks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't worry, it's only 72 volts.
[SPEAKER_04]: One word that bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's I, I'm trying to think other good ideas I had is a kid that you realize like the classic like invention It's like what if I like here's like these two dots right it's this is how I describe inventions you have your two dots So like here's the thing and here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if I put them together and made some other thing like the classic invention I like your grandparents would bring to you Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like a flying car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like a flying car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like well, what if like I like you have to drive but then you you have to fly but like a plane is bad at being a car and a car is being bad at playing so what if we make a flying car and it turns out that
[SPEAKER_04]: what you thought previously still stands through except now both that it's bad at both things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the shittiest car in the shittiest plane.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like tank treads on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like a car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go inside the tank.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're excavator.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: What I got I'm like trying to like remember some of my bad idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've told you like I had this idea for like a toy car when I was a kid like a remote control car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably after seeing James Bond we're like the wheels
[SPEAKER_04]: And I remember thinking, like, really smartly, this is like, not, it's not embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was a child.
[SPEAKER_04]: I need hydraulic actuators to like pivot the wheels out.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like the wheels are inside of the body of the car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like a normal car.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you point them outwards.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then the rims are like propellers.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, spin it like goes forward.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to go, I'm going to go to the thrift store and see if I can find like small hydraulic actuator.
[SPEAKER_04]: How old are you?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I was like 29, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I must be 11.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, how did you know that hydraulic actuator was?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty...
[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't even know what that is.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a garage, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if I couldn't like build it with Legos or something, if they didn't have like a Lego piece to represent it, I didn't know it existed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, they kind of do have that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like pneumatic.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you didn't have the pneumatic.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I just had like the basic battery like connection thing with, you know, the great that you would plug on the battery.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with that little controller.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could like make shitty programs on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was just like a very packed that you could like connect like Lego.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Motorized wheels to install.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got your hat.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like simple arms that do this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you do this so much better stuff now?
[SPEAKER_04]: kids are lucky.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have no idea how good they have.
[SPEAKER_04]: All I had, I had the coolest leg of I have Amazon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and you don't even need to buy Lego.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can buy off-brand Lego now for a way cheaper.
[SPEAKER_04]: The pneumatic cylinders.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because you could like, you could like pipe, you know, like linear motion through a tube.
[SPEAKER_00]: What was it like a little aquarium pump that drove like that I think you did it by hand.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was like another piston or it was like a special piston like a check valve and there was like a little air tank and then they had these little like handle bowels that would switch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was probably like for an excavator.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was something for a submarine and so it could like open the door.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, the door.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could open the hatch with like a dial and then the Shit, what did the new Maddics did?
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember now with the Maddics did they would move?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it was a claw at the front of the submarine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow It's I would sit there and I was like pumping up as much as I could it never exploded and then you would like sit there and like
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you could lift the clock up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it like when in those underwater exploration vehicles?
[SPEAKER_00]: It was yellow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I know what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it came with this really shitty piece of software on a CD.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, do you remember it as a kid you like play something on a computer and you had no fucking idea what was going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but we're somehow really good at it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you're good at like nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like a neural network just figures out what funds to press to make the program.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bleeding into it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then you realize it actually was just shit like when you're older like, oh, like it didn't actually do anything couldn't explore.
[SPEAKER_04]: that was the Lego submarine CD where you could just like click between things and just like go to it and you're like, okay cool you can just like go to different areas like that's it It didn't do anything It didn't do anything Yeah But I think very fondly of my Lego new Maddox and I I still want to build that car that RC car I'm not I'm not going to use hydraulic because that's stupid
[SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe I should.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe that's the whole point of the video.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to follow the script exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Make your own little hydraulic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Use air cylinders, but just put oil on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Google, I've looked this up and people have, there are tiny little hydraulic cylinders, but it's kind of like for models.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually have a tiny little model hydraulic pump that I used.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used it for fuel injection in this little rocket engine I made for a video.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you made it or you found it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I found it on Alibaba and he's like, work.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it works.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's got like a hobby RC motor on the back of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This spins like a gear pump that pumps hydraulics, like up to 700 PSI.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nigel, have you ever?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any stupid kid?
[SPEAKER_04]: I was just good inventions.
[SPEAKER_04]: other than drugs and bombs, which is how everyone gets into chemistry with and over that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have to think you've got all sorts of shitty ideas.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I forget them now.
[SPEAKER_03]: My brains pretend to be embarrassed and you don't want to share them.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I actually can't think of any.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so proud of my crappy ideas.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have, there's stuff I built, but I feel like there's a difference between like I built a cool thing and like this is like I could make money off of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was in fattuated with those RC car commercials like on oh yeah, I mean that RC car would have gone so hard in the 90s like if you invented that I had one called the I traded all my Pokemon cards for this and I don't regret it was called the mutator.
[SPEAKER_04]: The my friend had it and it was the wheels were a centric like the hub of the wheel was mounted like off center of the wheel and it was a dry like a gearbox in the wheel that would like wrote.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so there was like clear exactly so you could like move it up and down the car could like lift up and down and you would the wheels would drive based off of like the drive train going through the like off axis hub into the gearbox into the wheel kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like probably one of the best RC cars I've ever had because it was fast and it was cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the function did something because you could like go up, you know, like, you could go like over stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could get really low that didn't really serve me purpose, but you could like, you could like, you know, really the best value was like from going from down to up and so you could be like, we've got to go over this thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, how high like I have to get stuck under a car is and it would only only spin the wheels in one direction, so you couldn't you couldn't lower if you had gone like halfway up and so I was like a drove under a car and then I told it to like, you know, rise up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it got about three quarters of the way rising up and then it wedges itself on under the car and and then you can't you can't cycle it backwards so it can only like go up and down like this yeah and so then my car was stuck under a car and I don't remember what happened
[SPEAKER_04]: But it didn't come out easily.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, you'd have to like jack the car up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that someone just like ripped it off my other car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like broke it a little bit back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those RC cars were so cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had one that was like, imagine a normal monster truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the center of it, it was like split in half.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it could like spin.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole front of it would spin.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you could just like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, there was a button that would just make make it spin and he could like reverse on do itself like if Yeah, so imagine it like a car, but it's just like spinning and it was like a jack just like both sides spinning and opposite directions bouncing across the river It was so why don't people why is that not a thing anymore RC cars like never see cool RC cars anymore
[SPEAKER_03]: RC planes I feel like or what people are I mean, I guess drones.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but the drones suck dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're boring.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just use them to do like spy on your neighbor John.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you find my RC car?
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like blue.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, this is mine.
[SPEAKER_04]: The mute.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the mutator.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's fuck it go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you could like scoop up a bunch of like Barbie dolls with a dog shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could like offset the wheels too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember how that worked.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you could like have it like tilted down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, because you could pull the wheels really close to each other, too, to like change the, oh, my God, it was You can't let it down for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like, look, you could get the wheels right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, Children spin really fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can do it while you're driving to.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was the coolest RC car ever had.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every other one didn't look up a RC car that was split in half, and it could do flips.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no fucking way that Google.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just going to get that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was blue car that can do for tricks and split and I'm sad now does someone sell cool RC cars that I won't get bored with in 10 minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they have the ones that drive on the ceilings of the walls.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because they're just like, that's a flying car.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, not flying there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, it's shitty because it's like, because they're lightweight and not less like, I don't care about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want something like like smash into the neighbors car and then make it jam underneath the neighbors car.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then flip the neighbors car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like a gas cylinder that like.
[SPEAKER_00]: What about like a little kid's bomb disposal robot with like an arm on it?
[SPEAKER_00]: That would have been a bomb squad by.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can like actually make it so that like it's actual little bombs and you have to buy it's a subscription service to buy refills of the bombs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you can buy like new parts of the car when it when you blow it up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can we make a fix?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it break dances.
[SPEAKER_04]: We make fake toys I think that be so funny like just I don't have like the commercial like the fake commercial itself of like bomb disposal robot and like he says a real product.
[SPEAKER_04]: Odyssey toys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think this is it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, not not quite not quite, but let's watch it anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: This looks like shit muted.
[SPEAKER_04]: So don't get copyright strike.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is way too sexy.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you saying that this music is to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it did the same thing though.
[SPEAKER_04]: The front one flip, no, I'm showing anything got turn this horrible music off mute it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Please thank you Oh, no, yeah, it wasn't this but that's pretty sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it doesn't have any utility, though.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's probably how it works.
[SPEAKER_04]: I always found it, even if the function is useless.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like just spinning in circles, you know, like being able to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anything I got that was remote control, like a board so fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I never got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember air hogs?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you ever have air hogs, Nigel?
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of air hogs.
[SPEAKER_03]: They never worked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, mine.
[SPEAKER_00]: They like work.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would I crashed mine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, not even they worked for like the for smoke control.
[SPEAKER_03]: You They're like this the yellow one both.
[SPEAKER_03]: I use I'm talking about the one you pumped up with air, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And you just whipped the propeller.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that broke that hit a tree immediately every time
[SPEAKER_03]: or you would the number of times was by how good it and you're saying the number of times I went to the park and you hyped everyone up like we're going to do it you go to the park you throw it once and it's like in a 40 foot train you're like yeah aren't they just like just go in a circle like a like a boomerang and come back to the post I don't think I've read the instructions
[SPEAKER_03]: It was really glorious of first time though.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, yeah, you like, you pump it up there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, you have to spin the propeller to get it started.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see it's like, see through.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could see the piston moving, then you've launched it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I liked the stomp rockets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because those you get back, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know what I'm talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: What about you?
[SPEAKER_04]: Just the estates rockets.
[SPEAKER_04]: They went to too high.
[SPEAKER_04]: We lost too many of those.
[SPEAKER_04]: Too many.
[SPEAKER_04]: Man.
[SPEAKER_04]: The white estates rockets, like the actual model rockets.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You like couldn't buy them at some point.
[SPEAKER_04]: They like, I don't know why they banned them.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they were good at starting fires.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I never had that problem in Chicago, but it was one of those things where you have to have your parents like go and buy you more rocket motors and that it was always like, you know, the same thing I wanted to play paintball, but they would have to like go to the store and refill that, you know, CO2 cylinder, the big ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that just it was too much
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, they would do like once or twice, but you know, you go through one of those like right away.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was like like like like like, like, hell of a commenters.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like RC helicopters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're really easy to crash.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet and mine had these little bearings and they would go flying and I'd have to convince my mom to like take me to the store that was like 20 minutes of 15 20 minutes away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you mean like the little plastic ones basically.
[SPEAKER_04]: It did have metal bearings like on the rotor that like held it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, like the sharp.
[SPEAKER_00]: for image.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it was a nice version.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it was like the two rotating on a rotating.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, this one was an actual, actual tail roti.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, it was the shidiest, nice helicopter.
[SPEAKER_04]: It had like collective pitch, but also sort of like the stabilizing bars.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it like did,
[SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe we didn't know it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe this one didn't have collective pitch, but it's still out of tail rotor.
[SPEAKER_04]: This was like the super shitty one.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I ended up getting a collective pitch one after the ones that you can fly upside down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I never had the courage to fly it upside down.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I practiced in the simulator in like high school or maybe call it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember when I was practicing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I could do it in like Darcy, the like video game simulator, but yeah, never had the balls to do in real life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Using the videos right where the
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, do this like your brown like upside down flying is like Yeah, the tail rotor point that knows to the sky and they're just like that's what I'm talking Stand can do what's yeah, I think Tom can come stand can fly like it's like they fly or I'm like a dragon fly
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a guy at my work who would do that, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: The first time I ever saw that in real life, one of my old jobs, I was like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, isn't the parking lot?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, it's not just like going at circles.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the dumping vibrating noise that it's making is crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's really violent too.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so violent.
[SPEAKER_04]: It sounds so cool, though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It does sound like a very angry dragonfly.
[SPEAKER_00]: You do have to like unlock 920% of your brain to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got to trade some part at some points.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to take some points away from something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like definitely not something I was never.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're dangerous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's stories of people who have like cut their own head off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trying those.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's why I smashed it on the wall.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you know, a sender black wall.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like like guy, you know, some rich dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: built it or bought it, not probably bought it, and was flying it, didn't know how to fly it, and it was coming towards, and it jumps behind a wall, and it's like smashes into the wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy cow, yeah, I mean, the blade on, and like the pro ones, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like couple feet, couple feet.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's such a head right off.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Flying flying stuff when I was a kid was like, never good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like drones really have fixed that like with the tiny loops and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you can you can beat the living shit out of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they survive.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, you know, you want too many than you what you got to replace the plastic frame for a couple dolls.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or just like by another 20 pack of propellers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I wish that it makes me sad because I held a couple of things so cool but like why would you do that when you could just fly like an FPV drone?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, there's something cool about a helicopter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it's like a nightmare.
[SPEAKER_04]: The learning curves of nightmare, you know, like fix it all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody really does it anymore, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't they have better, like, they're more efficient, like, better.
[SPEAKER_04]: The drone, but not as efficient as a plane.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think a helicopter is more efficient than a drone.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you get this weird thing that happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like longer flight time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when you're flying forwards, the rotor provides lift, like the spinning rotor provides lift.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, because of the way the blade's like, yeah, forwards and backwards as the blade's act.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, emulates a wing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It emulates a wing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like if you're hovering, it's not efficient.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like when you start going forwards, you actually throttle down like as you start going forwards, if you hold your throttle position, you will start going up more.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you get you get this extra lift.
[SPEAKER_04]: Cool, which is kind of interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you do, but they're still like horribly inefficient.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but there's like they're kind of they're just like fascinating and you have all the redundancy to like helicopters are way more redundant than a drone because you have the ability to change the angle of the blades right the pitch.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so you can charge up the blades as you fall.
[SPEAKER_00]: model helicopters.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could do the model helicopters though.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the deal with helicopters.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I've shared this before, but like it's the there's like a no go.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the death zone is like a 500 feet below And when you're flying an RC helicopter, you're basically always in the death zone
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no time to read.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like if you're above 500 feet like in a helicopter with no engine like you're you're basically in a glider like it's totally fine, it's like it's actually genuinely easy the last the last.
[SPEAKER_04]: And feed is this the last couple hundred feet and then the very last ten feet or twenty feet that's like that's the scary part, but you can get down to twenty feet like you could you could take a helicopter that had no engine yeah and you could just like come to a skidding landing on a road.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you couldn't you wouldn't even have to land like, yes, I'm down.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't come down.
[SPEAKER_00]: You come in like at an angle and just like and then you sit down the road.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like technically the last minute you're supposed to you like you rip it you tilt it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, see like you all your energy is in your rotor in your kinetic energy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you like dispose of your kinetic energy and like dump all of that into your rotor and then you use your rotor to like do the actual final landing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like at that point you're so close to the ground, the worst case scenario is you get a nasty bump.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you'll walk away, survive and maybe your helicopter will be fine too if you're good at it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like you could, I don't think there's anything stopping you from just like, like, like, on the road, just like, you know, 30 miles an hour and just like, skid a, like, skid down the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen a video of like, an auto rotation at an airport where somebody came down, like, and that's what they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they skid it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they just like, slid down the runway.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you just, I have, huh, I have a question.
[SPEAKER_03]: What happens if a crazy bird, like a hawk?
[SPEAKER_03]: Just goes right through your tail rotor and blows it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're then your toe turbo fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're trying to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just, then you're auto rotating in a different way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're, yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're like, you like have no way to the counter act of main rotor and just watch the compilation of like awesome RC helicopter fails on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a bunch of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they go up and they're trying to like do a loop to loop and and the tail just flies off as they hit it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you there's more fail count like I'd be there's more failing with a helicopter than there is success.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the opposite of of the shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: survivorship bias.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, on survivor bias like it's I think it's actually way easier to make an epic crash Like you can do all cool you can go in circles really fast upside down I'll show us a really cool trick risk I've got somebody's head off Fucking smash into a tree or a wall 80 miles an hour.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that'd be a good YouTube video
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, I think I just don't want to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I still want to take the the drone, the tracking drone, you know, I like, I, I've been, I think about this like once a week, the tracking drone, where it, the reason it didn't work as well as it should have is because it was too sensitive in the middle and so it like saturated like imagine your, your camera had pixels in the center that were more sensitive to light.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so you like try to expose like you expose kind of for the middle, but then you have this like pocket of pixels in the middle, it's always overexposed and so it was never able to like accurately track in the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you try to bring the exposure down in the center.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, under it can't see the light on the side.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so it would be harder to see the light.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think I think it's not actually an experiment.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like it's it's like a mapping thing where the.
[SPEAKER_04]: You remember how that worked, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or the TV receivers, you'd give it a slowly decaying signal until the signal cuts out.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you assume the amplification in every single one of those chips is the same, you can kind of determine if one cut out first, it means it was slightly less bright.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was slightly less sensitive, which means it was pointing further away.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's like, you almost have to point them further away
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or have like more variability in the dimness.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you think you can make it work?
[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, I think I can make it work really well.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I can make it work literally by just putting a bigger resistor on the LED.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's it's in the trailer right now still there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I still have all the software.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be sick, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Emon, our drone.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could have a laser pointer that glass is the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you did.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bought like a one watt.
[SPEAKER_04]: I are laser.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's so cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just like pointed it something to drone just like just sends and like do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking you got like a shoulder mounted rig right where you like you like point it at something you pull a trigger a drone ejected.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's from it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It shoots up like 50 feet in the air.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then like, like, if you have a win, that's all.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because if you had it like above a target, you could just fly upside down because then you get, you get gravity plus your props.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could hit something going like 200 miles an hour.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like what's the term of velocity of a drone?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be like 50, 60 miles an hour, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know more than that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably.
[SPEAKER_04]: What if it's aerodynamic?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, like, you know, they're really fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, like, with the cone on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying, there's there's there's something here that my cut that might be like list like getting out of to a list worthy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's once you make a.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's the whole thing, what is the government not like?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it things going down that can steer or is it things going down?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's autonomous things that can steer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's unfortunate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think it's fine as long as you don't share the code.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you're free to do whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that actually the rule?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know this for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Kevin GPT.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Kevin GPT.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I go to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I mean, how would have if I should have the code.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what is the code anyway?
[SPEAKER_00]: So many like collectible FBI business cards, probably holographic ones.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I got a job.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I just go to jail.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, you probably wouldn't go to jail either.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also it was really bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw a video on YouTube the other day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or now today, I only watched a little bit skip through it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was, it was someone doing what I thought this was, where they were making a US weapon for $100 instead of $120,000.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK. And the thumbnail had this cool looking drone on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like not at all that at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I got pissed and just screwed through it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got baited.
[SPEAKER_04]: What kind of weapon was it I don't even know I don't even know I don't even know I don't he just like taped a bunch of stuff to a DJ and I was like no, I'm out You baited me I thought this is gonna be sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you just look like a GPS.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even I literally don't even I have no idea you know you can't even buy DJ I drones anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: I heard that they're like gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are they don't exist?
[SPEAKER_04]: You buy them in Canada try to see if you can buy a DJ in Canada right now
[SPEAKER_04]: You can, you can, yeah, we can't we, is this DJ era America America we what they won't let us buy drones.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, who here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, GoPro's going to make the fucking GoPro set.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no company right now that makes drones here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Remember GoPro came out with their DJ competitor and it was like, so bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now they're camera right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right now, I can get 50% off exclusive deals at the DJI store.
[SPEAKER_04]: Really?
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow, you know what we should think.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we had a VPN for buying things where you could buy things from other countries.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we would ship it around the is that is that a thing or is that just, or is that just probably a regular bugling?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just smuggly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Muggling God damn dude, why are all the good ideas taken already?
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, dude, it's crazed, isn't it crazed that you guys can't get drones?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that means I got to be really careful with my drone that I have, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my,
[SPEAKER_04]: You mean just good drones just like the only the only you can just say good drones and everybody knows and they're so cheap you can't do anything like that what's the reason John looked us up as a reason that we can't buy DJ drones right now I've got to go pee You know that I can just buy them at best buy not to fly is that they can't import them John.
[SPEAKER_01]: What so they still are in stock.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't buy them from DJ is this like is this like returns or a furbister something.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh, never mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was flexing for no reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: Huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't get it on their website.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if it's just like back stock and they just can't bring them into the country.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember the good old days with drones or you could like fly them anywhere and I can't fly them anywhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you always kind of knew that that day is coming, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what we can have nice things.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be the only kind of reminds me in 20, I think it was like 2020 right when the pandemic hit I bought a bunch of electric scooters because I was like, well, because I was like this, this is not going to last for very long yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I was about regular electric scooters and because there's this weird ambiguity, they didn't exist in a lot of places yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like here in Montreal, they didn't really even have laws for what you could do with them because they were like, well, they're not technically classified as motorized vehicles, but they're not bikes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're not allowed technically they said,
[SPEAKER_03]: one cop told us, he's like, they're technically somewhat argue not legal to drive anywhere, but there's also nothing that states they're illegal, there's just nothing that says you can, but either way for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one would stop you from doing anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I was driving through with the big scooters.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can just drive through parks.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could drive inside people go, oh, cool scooter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like no one, people thought it was more cool than annoying.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you just drove around indoors with it, well, wasn't having that much during the beginning of COVID.
[SPEAKER_03]: But fast word like two or three years and they have formal rules and everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you can get fine all the bad news and they ruin it for us, the good people.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, I think I want to get back to the e-bikes because it's like a problem here, too, where is the kids on e-bikes and they're basically just like, basically just like others like, oh, yes, we're like, okay, like, yeah, you've
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, you know, then you're like, you know, people like on sidewalks with essentially like a motorcycle motorcycle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're like, I can see that this is not a good idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the very beginning, you feel so free.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you're the only one doing because, like, even my brother and I got quote unquote caught because we were, it was one of the days here where like the lockdown was opening up.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we were able to like go around.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, he actually, he told us he was like
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, what's up, guys, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're like, uh, you know, just scootering.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, so I'll be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't gonna stop you for if it was one offense.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna go tools about the laws too.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, but you guys were going down the street.
[SPEAKER_03]: The wrong, he was, sorry, you drove on the sidewalk and then onto the street in the wrong direction, then back onto the sidewalk.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you had no helmet, then you went over the little median.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, you were just driving all around the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: And whenever he was at night, you have no flashers.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was just like, you, because I have to tell you that this is not okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It might be the day in the right amount of time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nigel forgot he wasn't playing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he also, he was very nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the one who told us.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said straight up.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're told it's entirely our discretion to be banned because of you to right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only do one thing at a time, Nigel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm wondering why not do any of this anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's because Nigel's an asshole.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a graphic bus.
[SPEAKER_03]: The cop was like, look, if you didn't have a helmet, I would let it fly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you go around down the street, the wrong direction.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would let it fly.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, but you're going way too fast in the wrong direction on the side,
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he let it fuck you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but he goes, I have to stop you.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what he took.
[SPEAKER_04]: First of all, that's fucking sick.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he said he was like, um, yeah, he just asked.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, he just asked those questions about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said he thinks the scooters are cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, nom man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, he's like, maybe next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I think he might even make a joke that he goes, uh, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a few down at the police station that we've confiscated.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, where did they draw the line?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he was just, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was a nice guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just was like, he basically just told us, can you stop driving on the sidewalk and go on the right side of the street?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was there anybody else on the sidewalk or on the street?
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, no, not really, but it was technically a main boulevard, but it was like opening up of COVID.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it would kind of be like, and extreme version would be, let's say something like drink COVID.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's barely anyone driving their car.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like the highway, like in my area, you could have a car pass every minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, you could probably walk on the highway and chill for a second and come off and there's basically zero danger, but you still don't really want more on doing that because it's just as bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, this road was a main boulevard.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there weren't really any cars, but also when you see a bunch of morons driving around like idiots, you're Yes, you can see moron as long as you're not putting anybody else in danger, and you know, that's that's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just like I agree, but I can GPT you can speed it up as long as there's nobody else on the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I understand the cops reasoning of being like, hey, look, there's no actual danger, but there's something that seems incredibly wrong with what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_04]: My friends in school and high school is actually like the most terrifying part of having a child.
[SPEAKER_04]: Would do the dumbest shit in cart?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm surprised that none of us died.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would go along for the ride, though, and hold these shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like really roads and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, drift.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we never had cars that could do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, that's a neat part.
[SPEAKER_04]: None of these cars will do it either, which is why I'm surprised we didn't die.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like, I mean, yeah, you don't even have like the e-brake and reality, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't even have a real drive.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you don't even have a real drive.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, your pedal and you like, literally, oh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was scary.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we never did any crazy like speeding or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, dumb shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just really just run your car.
[SPEAKER_00]: You never wrote it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're never lived man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, we were trespassing, though, and we got in trouble.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's better than like driving off a cliff into a canyon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you don't have that in Florida.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have swamps, that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you're not looking to get it done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, definitely remember, that's probably some of the worst stuff that I ever did as a kid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, the apps.
[SPEAKER_03]: For me, I think straight up probably the most dangerous thing I did is a kid, the most dangerous thing I did is a kid was just drive bicycle like just ride bicycles gone street.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like the number of things I did that just like you absolutely get a blittered like building bike jumps and then going down a hill as fast as you can.
[SPEAKER_03]: You hit the bike jump.
[SPEAKER_03]: You realize the angles all wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you just hit it your bike to, oh, sorry, you hit it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You kind of get thrown off the ramp.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you hit the concrete and your bike tire bends in half.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you fly off your bike and you roll down the ramp.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're at it or like,
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we did that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who did that?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he smashed my brother, my handlebars, my brother built a bike ramp, my older brother that was basically, he tried to know what he was thinking, but it was like a jump, but like the curve of the jump was I think smaller than the radius of the wheel.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you just hit it and flew off I was going to say we we had like skateboard rams and stuff that we that my dad They're like a curved half pipe and my friend just like he's at going full speed and it's like he just like Gims off the top of the bike Yeah, you're just gone
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, the ramp just makes you straight up, what do you think is going to happen?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or like, there is times where it's like, you bike as fast as you can, and then you're on bike paths.
[SPEAKER_03]: They sometimes have it where I did this once at least, where they put the poles up to prevent cars from going or to prevent, you know, bikes from speeding, but you go like 30, 40 kilometers an hour and you're like, I can make the handlebars in between.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes you only had half an inch clearance on each side or something, so most, I'd say most of the time you made it and felt the lie, that's the worst, like the other times you just got destroyed, like writing too close to a chain length fence.
[SPEAKER_00]: And on the handlebar catches it and just a look.
[SPEAKER_03]: None of you can do the worst thing my brother ever did and this was just an accident.
[SPEAKER_03]: My dad still brings it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had a pool near where we grew up and now we're pooled.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we would bike there all the time and one day I remember biking and I'm going down this hill really fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I look behind me because I hear some stuff and my older brother is just on like the ground tangled up with his bike.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like it's a horror, but like he's just like not in good shape because we would bike with our towels around our necks And my brother leaned over and the ends got sucked into the tires So his head got pulled to into the handlebars and then the bike the wheel immediately stopped So he flipped off the bike, but his neck was attached to the handlebars.
[SPEAKER_03]: He died, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: My dad talks about it, my dad was there and he's like, when I saw that, he goes, man, I thought I was coming in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm laughing for you to rumble on kid.
[SPEAKER_03]: He says that joke, but it was bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ever looking back, and it's just like, he actually had to get his head untangled from the bike.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was probably choking him too, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like hyper tight, but imagine getting tugged, your neck gets like your head gets thrown into your handlebars and then you fly off the bike, but you're still attached at the neck to the buck.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the fastest you've ever gone on a bike?
[SPEAKER_01]: at least like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you install the water like little magnet?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I did the I did the best form of the speedometer, the car car.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know by, you just you take a car and you tape it in the spokes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we were like in like the 45 to 50 mile an hour.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's probably you had that huge hill like my world house.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's an even, that's probably what I would say and very poorly because this, that, that big hill would like it like levels off at a couple spots.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's not like you have to, you know, slow down while going downhill.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just dead if I grew up in California.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even have anything like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fucking scary.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty sure you would have been like, ground into pulp if you crash that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I remember the, I just remember a story.
[SPEAKER_03]: My friends near their house had a really steep hill, like, I mean, just a steep as you'd ever want to go down on a bike.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I was 10 as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And basically, my friends were like, oh, we're going to go down as fast as we can, whatever, you know, stupid kid stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I don't I think one friend went and I'm like, Oh, go next.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll go next.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I jump on his bike and I go down the hill and it's already a bit precarious because it's like a little dirt thing that people would go down on their bike, but it's like right next to kind of a winding staircase because
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess because it was steep enough that you didn't have a staircase going straight down.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you have like railings on one side and trees on the other.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you kind of like have to focus.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I focus and right when I get past that where it starts to like level out, I'm like, okay, I'm going to slow down and then I go, where are the brakes?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I couldn't find the brakes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I start trying to put my feet on the ground, but I'm going to punch the fans, not doing anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no break handles.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what happened was I went to grab it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I recall, I think it was the the right one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried to grab because the right one's the back one, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I tried to do it and it didn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or it was, yeah, just basically it didn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, total, I was like, I'm done.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I, on the flat part though, there's probably 20 feet in front of me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's just a wood fence.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I remember being like, I'm either going to bail.
[SPEAKER_03]: and skip into the fence, or I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like a man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, no, as a kid, my life flash before me and I vividly remember, I accepted my fate.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I lived a good life and I'm just getting, I don't know how I'm at either.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I'm just going to go into this fence.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the only thing I do in that situation is try to like pencil dive into the fence so you just break the voice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, both of you are actually like a bullet in hiding right in hindsight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because the problem was where I was going, I think there was a bit of grass.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was like kind of like, I don't know why there's gravel there too.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was not a thing that I wanted to jump off on.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in hindsight, I should have just jumped off and lit up my ass in multiple fences.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that's just kind of the only way.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, but I should have jumped off, slid and hit my feet into the fence, and that would have been better.
[SPEAKER_03]: But instead, I went just straight up, smash the fence.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, I assumed I was dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly think about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have such peace with that moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: I lived a good 10-year-old life.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I hit the fence and I don't remember actually hitting it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I remember like gain, regaining like sensibilities.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, the classic.
[SPEAKER_03]: I started touching myself.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I'm alive.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought my, I thought my legs were torn off or I'd have like a horrible thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_03]: So my friends come all I remember is my friends come like screaming and they're like, why the hell did you just go straight into the screaming world and so the seat was, I don't remember the seat was broken.
[SPEAKER_03]: The actual like whatever seat was broken somehow.
[SPEAKER_03]: The handlebars were broken.
[SPEAKER_03]: The wheel was bent and broken.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember my legs were really scratched up but there's nothing like horribly wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember the wood planks were all cracked.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and uh, then ask my friend where his brakes were and apparently it's just because he likes to have his brakes really vertically down.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when I went to go grab them in the normal place, I thought they didn't exist.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he likes to do it where you have to really put your risk.
[SPEAKER_04]: When you sell it, you like completely fracture your whole relationship.
[SPEAKER_03]: Break your knuckles, I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the people whose fence I broke, apparently we knew them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the dad was like super angry.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we ran away before anyone knew who it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice, man, just to remind me of something I did one time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like writing my bike and I kind of like look behind me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, just to check if my girlfriend is behind me or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I drift into the mail, my neighbor's mailbox and I hit it and it just like boom.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was that happened like three years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's it's fucked because it's like this horrible avalancing effect.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like the incident you get too close, then you steer into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't even looking at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a total surprise.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you know, just looking behind me and I slowly drifted over like wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it like it doesn't like you don't hit it and you're like, oh, I push my wheels away.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like pushes or we like engages more and more and more and it drives you into the
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're just like plows you into the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing you can do, like high side over the bike.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't see listening to all these stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: It drives me crazy because they're trying to, I go on next we're all the time and all the old people want to ban e-bikes and they're like, the kids go too fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: The kids are acting reckless on their e-bikes.
[SPEAKER_00]: look at what Nigel did on a regular bike.
[SPEAKER_00]: Regular.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say, I will say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fucking expensive.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for the night can go on my e-bump.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's that.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't recommend it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, you know, like another I hit a few cars as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: A few parked cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, property damage, property damage.
[SPEAKER_04]: One time I do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can do that all analog.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even need an electric motor that analog crimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: like having having my tire pop one time going down a smaller hill and like basically eating ship but not that bad because it was mostly able to slow down was a huge like oh shit like what if this had happened during like the 50 mile an hour like bill bomb yeah that was probably the end of the like crazy bike stuff I was like ah no
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's not like, you know, like you, you know, you drive your car until it breaks, but when you have like an airplane or helicopter, you do like preventative maintenance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like a bike is like as dangerous as a helicopter, maybe more dangerous, and you do zero preventative maintenance.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just drive it till it breaks.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you just shit like going, you know what like, what you should do is like inspect your bike, make sure the tires are pumped up and then bomb the hill.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, like you said your bomb the hill.
[SPEAKER_03]: But will it's like I said you bomb the hill and then you go wait where are the brakes and then that's when you figure out how to even use the bike You put your feet on the ground.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember like we had a scooter and the back brake Bell off, you know like it was like the razor scooter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was like the macaroni noodle style break that curved over the wheel
[SPEAKER_04]: and we still would write it and when you had to slow down you'd use your shoe and so all of our shoes had this like like actual like half circle like channel carve you're turning him into healies yes and so like you're then your parents say all pissed off that you're you're like buying me a break yeah scooters break shut up my shoes
[SPEAKER_00]: I had one of those moments like, oh, shit moment when I was working on my electric scooter and I hit the gas one time was like up on a stand and I hit the gas and the throttle and it just kept spinning up and spinning up and spinning up and I couldn't turn it off so I'm like trying to mess with like the battery.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when I get and I'm like, what if I was like on it when that happened?
[SPEAKER_04]: You just have to jump off and like let the thing like send to the abyss.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why they put the emergency stops on like skewedos and treadmills.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that'd be like jacks though.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like actually terrifying.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hate big motors, man, especially if they, especially electronics.
[SPEAKER_04]: They did like one line of code, one stray, one stray causing that way from God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one break cable snap.
[SPEAKER_04]: One break cable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say though that I think my more scary experience is honestly we're actually snowboarding.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, that's what that's just like asking to get hurt.
[SPEAKER_00]: where it's definitely snowboarding and I guess probably skiing is I feel like I just oh yeah have you ever gotten like going down a hill and you start going so fast and then you're like scared to do anything because you're moving so fast and you know from past experience that if you do try to do anything you're just going to fall down and like yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I've ever been to have a ski mountain and not seen someone like fucked up, like getting carried out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like or hear it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what happened yesterday or like some other day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every day they carry somebody out on a other guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Snowmobile.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I've hit so many trees.
[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing that saves me on a snowboard is that you snowwork can block the tree.
[SPEAKER_04]: And when I would use a snowboard first into the tree, you have a choice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you have to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because in my head was, if the snowboard breaks, then it's, you're getting stabbed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Your splits and the splinters are pointing right towards your balls, and then you get your knees fucking cracked.
[SPEAKER_04]: You get like splinters shoved into your balls and your legs.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what you're sitting there like.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying as you're stuck to your snowboard, you're snowboard stuck to the tree.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you cut the tree down.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: As you're flying board out of his gut your bleed to death.
[SPEAKER_03]: As I'm flying towards the tree, I would always have that thought in my head.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, let's just hope the board doesn't snap.
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, I've done a few things like those one mountain here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, because moguls are technically more meant for skis, but like they are fun to go down on a snowboard and to try to like really go between them, but sometimes if you screw up and you're going too fast, you start just skipping off them and you kind of go out of control, um, as if you're going really fast, right, and you screw up so you, you're kind of like just keep jumping off them and you kind of down because you're just skimming off the top of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're starting to skip and that happened and I was going towards an edge and I'm like, oh I don't know it's there, but I don't like the fact that these 30 foot trees look like one feet because it means that there's probably a massive drop So I did what I should have done on the bike and I just I just like self drop down Um, I just react all 12 but I ended up like
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember, I ended up spinning so much at one point, the board got stuck, but I kept spinning.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I turned this bit more, I would have snapped my ankle.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then I looked over the edge and it was a 30-foot draw.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was like, fucking liability, riddle, poorly run.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how many are you going to?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you go on the more dangerous runs, you can get really cooked.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've gotten wrapped up in that orange netting so many times.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was so born in one.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I went like, when I was a kid, we went skiing and then they got too expensive.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, it's so expensive.
[SPEAKER_04]: No boarding once, which dude, what were those lift passes for the day?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like $300.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that's what we just paid in rage.
[SPEAKER_00]: You like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_04]: Holy shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: We just like went up the lift and then like just hung out the top with potato.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but like snowboarding wants fresh first time ever snowboarding as an adult, I, you know, used to like skateboard at school, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like as more of a transportation or other than like skateboarding skateboarding.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I kind of was able to do it without too much trouble, but I was so cut.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I could just tell that my legs were like not strong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the all the strength I had completely filled my muscles up with like whatever electric acid and so they just like were not.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, if I go
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was the last time I went snowboarding because it was it was fun, but it was probably more stressful than fun, and then seeing the number of people that get seriously hurt was just like I don't enjoy this like really that much at all snowboarding is for like ice and teenagers man, yeah when they're bones snowboarding though, yeah like I
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I'm thankful I haven't gotten hurt because if you're asking Kevin about going fast, depends on what mountain you're on, but I have done it where you go down most of the hill with like just never slowing down in any way.
[SPEAKER_03]: To to the point where if you hit like a time that you're going to
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if the terrain goes down a little bit, because there's one mountain I forget what it was, it would kind of like go, and then it would probably be like a slow six foot drop at like 40, sorry, six foot drop over like, I don't know, like 10 feet, and then it would level out a bit, and then it would go down again, and you could just bomb it, and you just clear that entire section.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like you're you're in free, but you're just like falling with the Yeah, but the mountain but it's bad like you can as you're going that fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like man If you fall you'd I've done it before.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're I remember I
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, every time you hit the ground, you do a full backflip before you hit the ground again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you're going so fast and it's like, and it's like once the snow starts icing over to, it's like there's nowhere, you can't stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you try to do anything, you're just gonna fall over.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're not really like how fucking fragile you are,
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's why I don't snowboard or it anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't let skis.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was sled.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I only slide.
[SPEAKER_00]: I sled.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a sleder.
[SPEAKER_00]: I bring it to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, hey, I wish they would like to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in an interview for something.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of like, as during the, like, head one as a kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all the skis skis skis get on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the toboggan style.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he said, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to be clear.
[SPEAKER_03]: The reason why I also got wrecked so bad was because
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not terrible, but the people I would go snowboarding with.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's literally, this is what would happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: They would be like, how are you with snowboarding?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, okay, and then my friend goes, okay, so this mountain goes up to double black.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even have triple black diamonds a thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, that's too easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he goes, what my friend actually told me was there's an off trail.
[SPEAKER_03]: that we can do and he showed me where it is and you go off like the really hard trail and you look on the side.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just, I remember one of them, I was like, okay, now I'm actually, like, this is it, like, no, it's when there's like caution tape and like all these warnings in my friends, like, oh, they just put that there to scare you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you look over and it's just, it's just death below.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in my friend would do it, but usually what I would do is I would try to survive.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I would try to not go down.
[SPEAKER_03]: So half, I would say, no, 90% of the time I hit the trees was me following him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my.
[SPEAKER_03]: or maybe a hundred percent even.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do that perfectly describes how I feel when I go skiing is like you're just trying to survive.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is it cost four dollars to go on a lift?
[SPEAKER_04]: You can try to survive no idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it close with people?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because when you go skiing in the forest, like when you're going through the trees, that's when my friend would always do on his snowboard.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then the problem is if you screw up what you you fly into a tree.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's why I hit so many trees because I was in the forest doing up all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, it's so hard to go through it on a snowboard.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not really meant for snowboards.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't think they're not meant for snowboards.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's just mostly that they're meant for skiers.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what my, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: Took us no more.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just happened to have a friend with my friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: My friend, my friend, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: My friend was fine, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I know it's possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: You come tree hugers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just trying to finish my video man.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the only thing you can like better be done before you go on your road trip with Alex Ernst for a sauce class.
[SPEAKER_04]: When one of them got to give you got to give me a time a date.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't have it already.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like October.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's actually really close to the, uh, the sauce that's on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Ian said like the 17th or something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, apparently I'm going to go now the filming Nigel and Alex Ernst going to road trip and then Michael and Drake surviving in the wood And I originally wasn't going to go Now I think I'm going to go the both yeah to like help Make him good
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it just does like, yeah, behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I kind of like, like, like doing that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's something fun about being able to not have to, uh, you can just sort of see what's happening and then make decisions to make it, um, even better.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't know if that makes you feel better knowing that I'll be there, if that makes you feel worse.
[SPEAKER_04]: It depends where you'll, how you'll be there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if you're going to be in the RV with us, I'll be strapping small explosive charges to the tires.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's going to make sure that it's not too easy for you and also not too hard, just the right amount of suffering.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't suffer, it's not interesting, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That is true.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually believe that which is why all my videos became the way that they are.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, I don't know why you're going, because Alex Ernst is good enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a lot of faith in Alex, Ernst.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Alex Ernst is king of making suffering.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like a suffer fact.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually can picture it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll literally be like, imagine this scenario.
[SPEAKER_03]: You.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to pull over Alex is like, I think we have a flat tire and I'm like, I don't think we do he's like, I think we've a flat tire can we just pull over and check so you're like, okay, so you pull over and you check all the tires and you're like Alex there's like there's not a flat tire and he just then walks up and stabs what in the stabs one of the tires and he goes, yes, there is and you're like, why would you do this?
[SPEAKER_00]: That is like an Alex thing to do or he would just be thinking yes there is and he would have to sit there and pump him up He doesn't want to have one PSI off and he would just back to the other one and it's still that one PSI off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, or he'll or he'll say exactly like the book says 35 PSI attire.
[SPEAKER_03]: We cannot believe until they're on
[SPEAKER_00]: I could also see him like passing by gas stations because the gas is too expensive and they're you need gas The gas is running low, but you keep passing gas stations because you're already making me consider Hi, there's so many good ideas.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna be awesome It's gonna be fucking And I'm excited for you and Ale
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, I just need to finish my video.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I care about.
[SPEAKER_04]: What, finish it?
[SPEAKER_04]: For now.
[SPEAKER_04]: When's it gonna be okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I need to make a video.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna make my video.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for when's your video?
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you didn't make videos anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't do that anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm over it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't do that anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't stop doing it.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I want to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to make the, like, I have a lot of ideas.
[SPEAKER_04]: I spent the past, like, I do, I have to, it's horrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, there's so many people.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've so many calls every day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but the the what I spent a bit of time doing was fixing the badge this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you build your badge and open?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you're saying yeah, so it worked.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't I it's done done like I finished it completely.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it way better.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel kind of bad that it wasn't in this shape when people like assemble their badge at the event, but like I don't know today's
[SPEAKER_04]: the the optical programming didn't work.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now it works great indoors.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I changed it so that there's only a single button.
[SPEAKER_04]: You only you only press the button once on the badge and you only press the button once on the web interface.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have it?
[SPEAKER_04]: I do, but I don't want to show it to.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to test it on you first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: We got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: We got to film that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Filmmet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have to film you use the user.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're in reaction.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're you're unadultered.
[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't get it right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, yeah, we'll get it for you on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's got to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be on the side of me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and wait.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had to write that it was it really truly was a horrible heinous nightmare, but I I've been using the the oscilloscope my apparently very expensive.
[SPEAKER_04]: He said oscilloscope they sent me.
[SPEAKER_04]: nice um a couple years ago and I've been like looking at the I was like looking at how it like the data sampling and I realized that I could combine like all these different modes into a single mode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, like, why make it so that you have to press the buttons a bunch of times.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I tried to show my mom doing making things is fucking hard that if people have to use them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, the mom test.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the mom test.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know when you make something and you're like, yeah, I know how this works.
[SPEAKER_04]: You do this.
[SPEAKER_04]: You do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You do this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you walk away from it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You come back six months later.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're like, what the fuck is yeah, you're scared to kind of touch it because you don't know what you did to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I call this like, it's like a, there's like a tool phenomenon where like once a tool reaches like sufficient complexity, you either use it every week or never.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the laser cutter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you're not using it all the time, you have to kind of figure out the workflow every time you use it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like not great.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's kind of great, I mean, what I always think that I should do is sometimes just having like a stupid little like you know a piece of paper that you actually took the time to type out little things and you just like tape it to the machine because it's all those little tiny things where yeah you go back to use it and I'm like I remember there was something weird about turning it on like you it's really you need to like do something and then you turn it like you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't turn it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, go to your honor cost you $800.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's always those weird little quirks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think what helps me is that, I mean, for all of us is that if you happen to use it in a video, I'll rewatch the video and I'll be like, oh, yeah, that's a good, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just had a friend ask me who's like, is there any use for a water jet?
[SPEAKER_04]: They can cut like a one by one foot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently Omax sells a water jet that can cut like a one by one foot area and I'm like, water jet is like the ultimate tool that everyone gets so excited about, but it's actually the biggest piece of shit in the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the machine that I used to you, yeah, they're fucking horrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can cut their goddamn anything six inches thick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like they can cut their hardnesses that you can't cut with anything and they don't do the can even fast.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it's still cut their sapphire.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it takes a long time because I'm pretty sure the garnet is sapphire and so you're like cutting sapphire was sapphire, but like A laser will have like the heat affected zone so it'll fuck with temperatures and stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and It's like they're you can cut anything you can cut plastic you can cut like you just do anything ceramic glass, yeah, but the sand
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the garnet, the abrasive, the uses so much sand, it uses so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember looking at this small units and like pricing out like how much you need like a 50 like five gallon barrel full, just to do like a small job.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to empty the sand out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's like 45 pounds and a five gallon barrel.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so the problem is the small dude, the big machine had like a 50 horsepower, like three-phase, 480 volt motor.
[SPEAKER_04]: It looked like something that came out of a roller coaster, like the roller car is up.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was huge.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, bigger, it was like, you know, like probably like, I don't know, maybe I remember like a foot and a half in diameter.
[SPEAKER_04]: This big AC motor.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that is being used to compress water out of like a, you know, sub millimeter sapphire nozzle.
[SPEAKER_04]: This fucking 50 horsepower shoving water through a tiny little orifice like this like a hard hard crystal orifice like you're gonna make a small version of this
[SPEAKER_04]: And you have a small pump, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then that small pump can't produce the same amount of velocity.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so the abrasive is not doing any the near near.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you just work can produce like that much pressure, but you just have to go a lot or so, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you put like less garnet in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's totally a compromise.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they all still try to cut fast and say she's and so you know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: They cost like 10, 20 bucks an hour to run to run just for like the smallest, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they cut slower and so you end up still spending a bunch of money on so everything cut slower that he's almost saying and so it's like, yeah, I know there's definitely like the user experience is like people see something and it's like, oh, it's like, you think it works like this and you get to it and it sucks and it's like trying to, you know, like the mom, the mom test you're saying is like you take this thing and just like hand it to somebody and you're like, how does this work?
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I did that, I did that test for the badge, and it didn't go well.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, oh, no, because I realized I like had to explain that you had to like click the button on the badge, like three times to get it to the right mode.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you had to go to the website and you had to click this and you had to click that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, God dammit.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so he just went through and like eviscerated everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, kind of, it's like a little bit sad because like, I got to get rid of features.
[SPEAKER_04]: You get rid of features.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it makes it better.
[SPEAKER_04]: And but then those features don't exist anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, that's that one is I think they're going we're going to put them up on this open sauce store.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you want if you didn't get a badge kit, it opens us you can get now and it works better and if you have a badge from open sauce.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, but you can't reprogram the chip.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you don't want to buy a badge kit, you have to buy, you have to make a programmer and you have to buy a new AT tiny 85 because the fuses are locked.
[SPEAKER_04]: So unless you have the high voltage programmer, you can't even reset your chip because we only have eight pins and we use the reset pin for the photo diode and resistor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's what you just like blast it hard blasted with 12 volts, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you got to do it in like the right order.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just bought a kit.
[SPEAKER_04]: The problem is like buying a kit.
[SPEAKER_04]: is a new kit will be cheaper than buying like the two things you need to program.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's like no buying new kit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So let's see how much 80, 80, 80, 85 is going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what you're like?
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to buy one thing from DigiPy?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, oh, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a price break if I buy 10.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so you then you end up, you're like, well, this is just going to cost me $20 plus eight bucks for shipping.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, God damn it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't I need $100 for sisters?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go on, where are we at?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to the extra.
[SPEAKER_00]: So see you guys on the tree.
[SPEAKER_04]: Love you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for supporting us on Patreon if you want all the extra episodes, which at this point, how many how many extra episodes do we have John?
[SPEAKER_00]: 100.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't at least 100.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe at least John said it's a lot over 100.
[SPEAKER_04]: But that includes the public episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, anyways, if you need more shit to listen to, you can go to Patreon to our Patreon link down below and support the 63rd podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're gonna record more right now, or answer your questions.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're talking horrible questions, especially Andy Ball's guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or is he come guy, Andy come guy?
[SPEAKER_04]: What does he do to me now?
[SPEAKER_00]: It depends, you know, day of the week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you come up with this?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's asked guy right now because he was a guy broke his ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: He broke his ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did a show and tell.
[SPEAKER_04]: He showed everyone his ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, I was like a CT scan, but you can see it's not something else.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why he was balls guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, a show to everyone is ball.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, so you, if you're into that kind of thing, come on over to the disk.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could see this guy's balls on our Discord server, but it's x-rays.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the questions, um, for me, from balls guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He horrible customers, but he's starting it right now, or we still need to put in the teaser.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the quiet on the safety third discord server is the podcast dead fuck you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, who said that pork?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's not dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just to be fair was it kind of had, you know, yeah, because not just a little bit easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: We were on the scheduled break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that we didn't tell anyone about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, okay, that's where's the game?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you pro bidet or do you have a dirty but hold Nigel?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to answer the one on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This sounds like a. I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Leading crush.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the answer.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many stories are waiting for the statute of limitations to expire to tell?
[SPEAKER_03]: May not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a good one.
[SPEAKER_03]: When are some?
[SPEAKER_04]: Who knows actually there's some good questions on here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, these are actually better than they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, these are like way less fuck than I thought they were going to be Okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you guys over on the 33rd expo.
[SPEAKER_01]: We love you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, Nigel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bye bye.
[SPEAKER_04]: You rude ass.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rude.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you tell your mommy lover?
[SPEAKER_01]: I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you actually, I do often, um, I don't count.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't really.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just comes naturally.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, what a prick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you know, when you feel that way, you say it.