[SPEAKER_02]: Hello and welcome to Baseball America's draft podcasts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am Carlos Colazzo and joined by Jacob Rudner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, Jacob.
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the draft podcasts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to pinch it for you on the college podcasts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Earlier this week, if you guys are just regular listeners to everything that comes on the B.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: feed, you heard that conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm very excited to have Jacob Rudner here to talk a little draft.
[SPEAKER_02]: How you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing great and I'm excited that we are conversing more in the podcast space.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that this is a mutually beneficial thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm pumped to do this with you and happy to be on the draft pod.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, excited as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always fun trying to do Jacob, but are we more fun to kind of get some more cohesion between us this year as we just cover the college baseball landscape and the draft landscape.
[SPEAKER_02]: Today, we've got a fun podcast in the works.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of my favorite podcasts that we've done in the past.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very excited to see kind of how your strategy may be compares or contrast to what Peter did for us in the past and just navigating the board.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are both trying to build
[SPEAKER_02]: The best hitters and pictures we can by drafting tools in the college class, that is the assignment today.
[SPEAKER_02]: So both Jacob and myself are going to draft a hitter that has the following tools, hit power, run, field, and arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: The main five tools that we typically great out for position players and hitters.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then for our pictures, the five tools we're going to be targeting are
[SPEAKER_02]: and how this works is we both go back and forth, drafting specific tools from players to fill out those two players in whatever order we want if Jacob really wanted to go heavy on hitters and avoid pitching entirely because he was either confident in some sleepers in the pitching category or he just felt that that category was more loaded and he had a lot of good options he could do that if you wanted to go back and forth for some more balance he could do that if he had some priority players that he felt like
[SPEAKER_02]: had a number of tools in multiple categories, you could do that as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of the assignment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once we choose one specific player, that player is not eligible for any other category.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there anything else I did not outline Jacob to make clear to the listeners there?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think that covers it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were looking to build a superhuman player.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one thing is that the righty lefty stuff on the mound, we can pick right handed and left handed pictures.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not, we're not exclusively pigeonholed into right handed tools.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we go with a right handed picture to start.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that's important.
[SPEAKER_00]: But other than that, you touch on everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a Frankenstein-E, Hodgepodge sort of just selecting the best attributes and you get them on your new player no matter mechanics, deliveries, arms.
[SPEAKER_02]: The interesting thing too is always like we would get into the weeds about like different positions.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a fielder that plays exposition and you take a throwing arm that's why position like does that bug you sometimes it does, but it's really.
[SPEAKER_02]: wide open however you want to attack you can we did flip a coin digitally prior to this and I wound up with the first pick allegedly yet I'm not sure of Jacob trust that entirely but I am happy to get it because there are a few players that I was so I guess we'll just get into this in earnest unless you have something else you want to mention off the top here Jacob
[SPEAKER_02]: You're good to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I was very happy to get the first overall pick because I feel like there are a couple players that just make sense that you would want to target initially, just given the tools.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is maybe unsurprising, maybe boring, but I feel like I have to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although, maybe for the specific tool, this will surprise you, but I'm gonna take Rock Chalowski's fielding ability.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like
[SPEAKER_02]: The separation between him and the next best defender in this class on the college side is pretty significant and I also think I'm taking Chalowski off the board for at least three additional tools on top of field the only tool that I didn't really have Chalowski written down for in consideration for
[SPEAKER_02]: was running.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are other runners that are just a little bit quicker, more dynamic there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think he'd be an interesting pick for arm, for hit, for power.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I've just gotten the best defensive shortstop in the class.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I also think I've just kind of eliminated a few decent options for you to other categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's my one-one pick, Rock Chilowski as my fielding tool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that makes a lot of sense, and as I was getting ready for this podcast, I was thinking about, is the best way to approach this to take guys who maybe don't fit into the obvious category that you would put them in.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like my first pick here and I'll get into it in a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does the exact same thing, and we didn't even discuss this before we went, we did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm actually, I'm taking Cameron Flooky for control.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that Cameron Flooky is somebody who has budding control.
[SPEAKER_00]: Walked, I think it was just over 20 batteries and 100 innings, and you know, he does have a great fastball.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you could have put him in that category, I think you could have put him in the slider category.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have a guy who posts a 5.8 walk, walk rate, and he's, you know, up to 100 miles per hour, he's got multiple pitches.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's very much in the conversation for SP1, and we kind of eliminate him for other categories that he makes a lot of sense for.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to your rock field pick, I take Cameron Flooky in the control space.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is a good that's a good pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think of my like priority players that I had set up here rock was my top position player and Cameron flookie for the reasons as you mentioned was my top pitcher.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just I just had him in a number of categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I had him in three different categories on the pitching side.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him top two.
[SPEAKER_02]: In, I don't know if I want to say, I don't think gives anything a way.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's already at the board.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him top two in both fastball and control.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you go, like, was it a tough debate for you for choosing him?
[SPEAKER_02]: And this category specifically, or was it pretty clear, and obvious that you wanted him for control instead of maybe fastball?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think, and this pit kind of ties into it, but what separates Cameron Fluky's fastball,
[SPEAKER_02]: from some other pitchers in his range on the board and just in this class in general is just his field to land that pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously the control component of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: helps with that, but he also has great power.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got great writing life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just got a lot of traits.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm curious how much you actually considered him for another category.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would flip up my board that I have here on my desk, but I would don't want to show you who else I have written out over here is kind of my game plan, but flookie was my first choice initially for fastball.
[SPEAKER_00]: My plan was to go flookie fastball, and then as I was kind of going over it one last time before we jumped on our show here,
[SPEAKER_00]: I decided that the best move would be to put him in the control category because I don't know, you know, peek into the logic here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that there's a picture that combines the sheer stuff with control the same way fluky does.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a couple different guys and I won't name them out loud now, but maybe when you make a pic we can talk about a circle back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there are a couple guys who I think fit great on the college side into the control category, but I, again, I don't know that those players would have brought the caliber of stuff that that fluky brings to the table that he controls so well, so I had him in the control category, I had him first and fastball and then I had him in consideration he was not first though on slide or as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I'm tempted to get into the the picture tools as well, just a kind of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Check you here at the start because if I let you run away with pictures, maybe maybe I start to lose some ground, but I also think that like one of one of my other strategies going into this is like, where are the, where are the tool categories where I feel like there's some clear separation at the top and like there are a number where I have multiple guys for my top two or three options that I think I either I don't have the confidence to separate them or I'd be happy with any of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: One category where I'm not sure that's the case is power for college hitters and I'm sure you can probably guess where I'm going but I'm going to take Miles Bailey his power.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think
[SPEAKER_02]: He's probably one of the most extreme offensive profiles in this class, just given the home runs.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's able to hit in the amount that he strikes out.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I can just strip out that elite tool that he has, I mean, his exit velocities are some of the very best in college baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you looked at our plotting power contact,
[SPEAKER_02]: And Chase writes piece that we did a little bit ago on the site, Miles Bailey is in kind of this area of his own on the top left of the graph where it's just crazy exit velocity data not a lot of contact.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you didn't strike out 31% of the time, you'd probably see a lot more than 19 home runs on his stat card here.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you see him connect with baseballs at the college level, it is truly a majestic thing to see, I mean, six foot four, 250, 260 pounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: When shocked me if he was even bigger than that, he's a monstrous monstrous human being.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it was legitimate top of the scale, 80-grade rock power, that wouldn't shock me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's at least a 70, whatever you're putting on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that this sort of power tool, I have a lot of confidence in it being the best of my list.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's a guy that you have that maybe I didn't consider.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to challenge you on this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so I'm curious to hear, but I'm very excited to get Miles Bailey's power here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a pair with my Rock Chalowski defender.
[SPEAKER_00]: So my concern with with Miles Bailey and it is going to be my concern with the power player who I'm now going to take last because I don't have to worry about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're going to take him for any other category is whether or not he's going to get to it in games.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a conversation before the podcast about is this game power versus Rob power and and we're leaning towards Rob power.
[SPEAKER_00]: hitters in college baseball with a minimum of 75 bad-ed ball events with a 96.9 average exit velocity 1, 12, 90th percentile EV.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a monster power hitter.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually have been in attendance for a miles Bailey home run and the only Action is like opening your eyes as wide as you possibly can and being like whoa because the ball goes So far and exits the bat so violently
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, do I think he's going to get to it enough as a pro prospect?
[SPEAKER_02]: I have major concerns, but as far as the build a player goes, if I had to, if I had to pair this with the game power, I would not be making this pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: So to make it clear, I'm taking the raw power and hoping that my, my hit tool selection can help me tap into that more in games and Miles Bailey is able to.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm curious too, if he's just going to improve on that contact this spring, like looking towards like real world on field production, I think he just has some of the widest range of like where scouts are placing him on the board and it's going to be fascinating to me to see the sort of growth he's able to show if he's able to improve in that area, but some of the contact skills that he just doesn't have, I do think are innate.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I wonder what the sort of contact ceiling is for him and if he'll be able to push closer to it this spring.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sense that I get in the conversations that I've had about Miles Bailey is that a team will basically have to choose and buying if they want to buy exactly what he is because there is no mystery in Miles Bailey at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to strike out a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be an aggressive player at the plate.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to chase a whole bunch and when he connects as you and I've said now a couple times it's going to be majestic and there's probably nobody who generates you know more aggressive contact.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that something that teams want?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there's a lot of appeal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know why that wouldn't be something that you would want to jump all over if it gets to like the third or the fourth round of the draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also can understand and based on the conversations that I've had that there is a tremendous amount of concern about what exactly that looks like from an actual power production standpoint.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a totally different game when you get to the pros and being exploited seems like something that could happen rather easily for somebody like him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go back to the pitching side for my second pick here because I think you're kind of leaving the door open for me to do so.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take Jackson Flora in the slider category.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's some things I want to go over.
[SPEAKER_00]: This off, he's in is a big one for that pick, because Jackson Flora has elevated the number of slider is shapes that he's throwing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They added a slur of to his repertoire.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not fully a curve ball.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had also does throw a curve and it fits kind of somewhere in between his curve ball and his already outstanding sweeper.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got an excellent feel for spin.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like the quality of the strikes that he's throwing are better and then most importantly, his fastball quality has improved tremendously, they adjusted the grip and they have kind of eliminated a lot of that dead zone characteristic that got him against lefties last year kind of gave him some problems now Jackson floor has got a better fastball to play everything off of he's I mean, I think he's one of the best pictures if not the best picture in this draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that I, you know, I could have put him in the fastball category.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could have put him in the change of category.
[SPEAKER_00]: He made a change.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was changed up his offseason.
[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently it looks great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the slider, of course, is kind of that feature pitch as sweepers outstanding.
[SPEAKER_00]: So pound for pound.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that Flora was one of the best, it almost like a rock chalowski in level pick in terms of how much he dominates his category.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel really good about Jackson Flora on the slider.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's a good pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I again had Jackson, Florida and multiple categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him in the Slider category.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not have him at the top, and I think the reason why I didn't have him there might be polarizing, and I'll be interested to talk through it when we get to my pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, he could still come off the board.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm crossing my fingers that you're not going to take him in another category.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that's a really solid pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Jackson Flores, Fastball Sider combination right now, just stacking those two pitches and comparing them to other pitchers in the class, probably one of the best.
[SPEAKER_02]: That will see, I mean, Lee and Peterson has a really good Fastball Sider combination as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're a number of other players in the class that think have both.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another player who I think has really exciting fastball cider combination, I'm going to target that now, because I think I really need to get on top of my pitching here, and make sure I don't get boxed out entirely.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go fastball, because that's still a category that you need to attack.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to take Gabe Gackle's fastball.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is Arkansas right-hander Gabe Gackle.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that his fastball just has a lot of the unique elite traits that are going to help it play as a plus pitch moving forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: It averaged 95 miles per hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been up to 98.99.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got solid riding life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has elite vertical approach angle.
[SPEAKER_02]: We headed as negative 4.4 in the 2025 season.
[SPEAKER_02]: He throws it from a very below average release height, which I think just helps amplify the shape and movement characteristics of the pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: The misrate is not an exceptional misrate for a heater from last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we do see some of the best swimming in misfast balls at the college level are getting into that like north of 30% rate.
[SPEAKER_02]: That Liam Doyle had a year ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would maybe like this
[SPEAKER_02]: even more if I could see like the the actual production at that level.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm hopeful that when I just pair the the physical traits with this pitch with a pitcher who maybe has a little bit better control once I get around to my control category, that'll maybe make it play up a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think in terms of like velocity and movement, it's difficult for me to find a
[SPEAKER_02]: Then Gackle, and so I'm happy to take them off the board here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he had one of the flatter, fastballs in the game of players that I'm considering, if you're filtering for release height, vertical approach, angle, and power.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Gackle.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Flora right after him.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Fluki.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've taken Flora and Fluki off the board for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think there's some other names that are maybe interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I did have Gackle's fastball as my number one in this category prior to this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm happy to get him here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's a really good pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it goes back to a conversation that we just had with Miles Bailey, which is that
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to have confidence in the whole player as a professional prospect as much as you do, what you can do in one specific category and I think to your point that gackle fits really well in just one specific category you want to broaden now and talk about the player I would have concerns about whether or not he's actually a starter.
[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't yet demonstrated his college player even that he can hang in a rotation.
[SPEAKER_00]: He last year started as their Friday night guide art can saw that ended up in the bullpen where he was very good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a nearly sub two ERA over about 30 innings of relief to close out the season.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was outstanding and a huge reason why they got back to Omaha.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, from a pure, pure tool standpoint, he's definitely one of my favorites.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was a great pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice, and I'm hopeful he was on your board and fastball and I could box you out, but we'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: So far, my three picks are for my hitter, Rochelowski Fielding was really power.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just got my first pitching tool, Gabe Gackle.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have two pitching tools down, Jackson Forest Slider camera flukes control, and you're on the clock for your next pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to go back to the pitching side because I have the opportunity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that, so let me let me preface this with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that my hitters are going to be very slippery.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm a target some guys who are maybe some more Jacob cheeseball type players on the hitting side.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the pitching I'm really going to target some juggernaut's here.
[SPEAKER_00]: This may surprise some people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going with Liam Peterson for curveball.
[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't really throw them in college games.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a 2% usage over his career.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that is a coaching choice.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that has come down to the players do not call the pitches in gamesville, but in the conversations I've been able to have with scouts that curveball that Liam Peterson throws is.
[SPEAKER_00]: one of his best pitches and maybe something that becomes plus and a seriously high usage weapon when he gets into the pro level.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is a north-south pitcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the most important thing that we can say about Liam Peterson.
[SPEAKER_00]: He comes from a super over-the-top slot.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's now more aggressively over-the-top than it was in years past.
[SPEAKER_00]: They worked on that this off season.
[SPEAKER_00]: The fastball plays really great out of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the problem for him is that his slider does not work
[SPEAKER_00]: North South, it's an East West slider and so it doesn't really agree with the profile.
[SPEAKER_00]: His curveball, however, is a top-down curveball that plays great when he throws it last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: His best three starts were his highest usage curveball starts.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does not throw it for strikes terribly often, but it is a really good chase pitch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he gets incredible movement on it, and if he gets with a team that allows him to use it more, that maybe coaches a little bit more
[SPEAKER_00]: I could see that becoming one of the better curveballs in this class.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of a sleeper pick in a way with a not sleeper player, but he was actually my number one target for curveball in this in this draft.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a fun pick because I had Liam Peterson in multiple categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him for fastball slider, I believe.
[SPEAKER_02]: But just looking at the curveball, like it's been a pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's thrown up to 86, 87 miles per hour to high spin offering.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, it's got a lot of...
[SPEAKER_02]: a lot of depth.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I will be curious to see like what the usage is going to be this spring.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you's able to throw it with more frequency.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can't say that I'm not happy that you took him here because I've got my full curveball selections up for grabs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's just a question of like
[SPEAKER_02]: strategically, which area should I go for?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm tempted to grab a change up here, because I feel like there's a clear top change up, but I'm gonna avoid that temptation and just try and keep collecting offensive tools because you've yet to target that.
[SPEAKER_02]: My one hand up is, I don't know that there's like a legitimate separation of the top pure hitters in this college class.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there are a number of players who
[SPEAKER_02]: I think are similarly skilled as hitters.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I guess I'll just go with the player that I think maybe has the most separation, even if I don't think this tool is quite as important.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna grab my run tool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm gonna go with the speed of Lucas Moore at the looks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so hopefully that was your top, your top pick in that category.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, by a mile, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think there's a case that he's just the fastest runner.
[SPEAKER_02]: in this draft class.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now there are always track stars who are maybe lesser prospects.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the players I considered that I don't think is a notable prospect and I'll throw this one out there for you in case you need a backup Jacob, but Trent and Rice at Oakland was going to be my like sneaky under the radar pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I
[SPEAKER_02]: just in some prep before this got in some four flat run times from home to first and he's stolen a lot of bases, but I think Lucas Moore is just kind of the obvious choice here.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's still 17 bags in 2024 and his first season with Louisville.
[SPEAKER_02]: He up that to 53 in 2025, was just caught stealing one time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also stole 48 bags in the Northwoods League over the summer in 2024, played center field with Team USA, moved to Burris off that position when they're
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, how do you break down speed in a way that is interesting to hear about?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's incredibly fast, at least a 70-grade runner.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to steal bases.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to brain-drawn in centerfield.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I just think there's another really loud tool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this one for me was probably the most clear-cut separated in any of the categories I had left.
[SPEAKER_02]: So
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would agree with that and that was the one category on the hitting side where I was like the deeper I go on the pitching side.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to miss out on one really obvious tools winner offensively and Lucas more was that guy for me on my list of players the way that I would talk about run is I think that there's run just in terms of like you put this guy on a track and he's able to run in a straight line really quickly and that's important and Lucas more checks that box, but I also like to think about the utility of speed.
[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit and how guys are able to implement it into their game because I have seen and I'm sure you could talk about a hundred different guys who have foot into this category who run really well but don't really use it in a game.
[SPEAKER_00]: They aren't capable of maximizing their speed and I think that
[SPEAKER_00]: Lucas Moore better than anybody in college baseball right now has proven that not only is he very quick, but he's able to deploy it very effectively.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't catch him almost to ever, as you said, only one caught stealing with 50 plus bags last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, to me, Lucas Moore kind of fits in this very rare category of supreme burner, where you can put them on the grass or on the basis, and he's going to look like the fastest guy, but also maybe the smartest user of his
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that he was the easy winner in the run category.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was, he was one of six players among qualified hitters over the last two years, among division, one hitters, who had seven year more stolen bases.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, he was six tied with King Capley at 70, 70, even then we have Jordan McLady, 89, Trent Rice, 80.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause you had Jordan 73 and Owen Prince 72, a couple of the MI players there, so they really like to run there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, happy with that pick and now we'll move on to you for whatever area you want to target.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go hitting now it's time as much as I would like to keep attacking and making this monster picture which I feel like I'm well on my way to doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to check off the hit category here and I'm going with Brady Ballinger Kansas.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have talked about how you've taken the hit because now I feel just more more calm about who I could say he was on my list is a good pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he I actually think is maybe entering the season is like the most underrated, complete prospect, at least offensively in this draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he a first basement in that kind of dampens the value a little bit?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, is it happening in the big 12, which is not, you know, carrying the same weight as somebody who's going to go and tear it up in the SEC also yes, but I just want to read something from a piece of research here in 2025, only three division one hitters with at least 65
[SPEAKER_00]: Last season, average exit velocity 89 plus 90th percentile EV 106 plus barrel rate above 30% zone contact rate above 85% and a contact rate above 80% those players were
[SPEAKER_00]: UT Arlington's Tyson Armstrong who was like a old super senior lower division player who was able to really capitalize on facing some bad pitching this guy named Rock Chalowski and Brady Ballinger that is the entire list and so any time that you are in this extremely exclusive bucket and two thirds of it are you and Rock Chalowski and you're doing it against high major pitching I feel really good about your chances to to be a productive hit or I think that Ballinger is going to prove to be
[SPEAKER_00]: arguably the top player in the big 12 this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that when the season is over, we're going to look at the stats and say this is a surefire all American because he's already produced at that level.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think just based on the conversations that I've been able to have that teams just started to get on the same page too.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he feels a little sleeperish to me right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that he's making the the preseason noise that some of these other top draft guys are making.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, when I kind of look through it, I scratched my head a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he is truly one of the best players in this draft, at least offensively speaking, and that somebody is going to get a steal if it continues on this track in like the second or third round.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a really great player.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree, yeah, last spring he hit 353, 495, 670, 16 homeruns, 21 doubles in the piece where we're looking at better balled at us for the top college hitters in the class.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was one of eight players that were above average in every single category for the subset that we were looking at.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one note that I thought was interesting, there were 141 hitters last year who had at least 16 homeruns of that group.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was one of just 23 who also walked more than he struck out, so he
[SPEAKER_02]: You, you laid out just how well rounded he is offensively, but I think like the contact skills and the approach and his swing decisions like that's folded into hit tool for me and and he checks those boxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think that like.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're maybe not aware of Brady Ballinger because he's not quite as famous, some of those other guys that's going to change pretty quickly, I would imagine on our upcoming draft update is a guy who's going to move in the right direction further up the board.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to not look at his overall profile and see him as like a top 50 top 60 player right now and we'll see how much further he can push himself with another strong spring.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so at this point, the only two categories we have that neither of us have taken a player, Peter, or not Peter, sorry, but old habits old habits die hard Jacob is arm and change up and if you know me and if you listen to me talk on podcasts, you know how little I care about the throwing arm relative to the other tools, although
[SPEAKER_02]: I do have a short stop defender.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I care about it a little bit more than if I had taken Drew Burris or Lucas Moore as my fielder.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for this exercise, I think I'm going to tie an arm that makes sense to my fielder, but I'm going to avoid arm for now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go to pitcher.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to pick up a change up and I'm going to take the change up of trade beard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this one is
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a group that I think are rock solid and maybe one of the best in the class.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the one that I was most excited about.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a mid 70s change up that he generated nearly a 49 or nearly a 50% mystery.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was 49% a year ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a high usage pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: He used it more than a quarter of the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the consistency, the movement office fastball, the effectiveness that he's shown.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think conservatively, it's like a top three, top four, change up in the class.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you wanted to say, it's the very best.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be defensible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a tough, it gets tricky with how we're picking these tools, because I don't like do I get the slot that trade beard throws this change up with?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not entirely sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the slot that he throws it from is part of the reason that it is effective.
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, I'm going to have a different fastball here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the fastball change up connection.
[SPEAKER_02]: is really important as well, but it's a great tumbling pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's I think at least a plus offering if you wanted to go higher, you could, but I just feel pretty confident in taking a high usage, high swing and miss, change up from a left-handed pitcher here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So trade beer, that's the pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and you know this because we've had conversations about beer off the air.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he's going to have an explosive year this season and I really liked what I saw last year when he was at FAU.
[SPEAKER_00]: As you mentioned, he's got the highest release point among college's left-handers to return to college this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it's a pretty modest fastball, but you aren't drafting, you know, the fastball change up combo.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just drafting the change up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so again, you know, we go back to like the holistic prospect conversation for a second.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest problem would be that, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Today, you're not drafting guys highly who are 90 to 92 or you know, even dipping into the 80s rather consistently I have heard he's taken a step forward velocity wise what that actually means is kind of to be determined I think that that could very easily be like sitting 92 to 93 now as opposed to 90 to 92 and like is that going to be enough to change people's minds and shoot them up draft boards will see, but it is not sending change up he's also got a good curve ball and I already had my curve ball category taken care of so I but he was on my list.
[SPEAKER_00]: from multiple categories, he was first on change up and he was third in curveball.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he's he's a really well-rounded player.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that again, the fastball concern is what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's going to strike out a lot of guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's well built for the ACC and he should be reasonably successful at Florida State.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't want to say anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, just going to say, yeah, would be really curious to see how trade beards change a plate off Gabe Gackle's fast ball because that's my current picture in the workshop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but we'll go back to you for your pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to go back to power now offensively.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is somebody who I think fits exactly into the Miles Bailey bucket.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it has especially so proven it this offseason.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that
[SPEAKER_00]: He was at the last year, and he is a monster when it comes to generating exit velocities.
[SPEAKER_00]: I read off when you pick Bailey what the EVs were like.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was 96.9 average, 112 90th percentile.
[SPEAKER_00]: Carson Tinney is just a couple notches down the list from him 95 eight average 111 90th percentile.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have seen videos now several times that have been sent to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: of him in a trading setting, this offseason hitting like 1-18s and 1-19s with a launching pet trampoline of a metal bat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the question becomes, what is that going to look like in game?
[SPEAKER_00]: What does that look like with wood?
[SPEAKER_00]: There are real questions about that with him specifically.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not looked very good on the cape and his
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of cause some of those questions to arise rather alarmingly, but I'm going to just take the pure raw power here.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is proven to have great strength.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did it at Notre Dame.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to do it at Texas, and then we'll just kind of see what happens when he puts wood in his hands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, this is a good pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had Tinia on my list as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was only a couple spots after Bailey.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one player that neither of us took that I was curious if you were going to take or I might have taken him if you would, for instance, take in Bailey for power.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Kate and Logan Paul would be another player who just has a ton of raw power.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this exercise, we get to mitigate some of the contact.
[SPEAKER_02]: Issues the preventive from getting to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I had Carson, yeah, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just want to say I'm Bogum Poe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think one thing that's important is that yes, we're taking raw power.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, who's just going to go out there and be able to produce batting practice level.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gotty power.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that matters.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have two guys who are really good at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that I did bake in, which is a little bit more in the game power conversation is exactly the angles with which guys are getting to their best power.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they putting the ball in the air when they're maximizing their exit velocities.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bailey, Tinney, both do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've proven that they can do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Keaton Bogumple had does not have good angles.
[SPEAKER_00]: And last year, he hit a lot of his best contact on the ground that scared me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, again, are we going for strength?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but did I bake in a little bit into how I wanted to do this?
[SPEAKER_00]: What do they do with their best contact?
[SPEAKER_00]: I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, just to lay it out there, my top three in order for power were Bailey Tinney, Bogumple, Bogumple being the third.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was gonna be my emergency pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I decided I need to go there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You took Tinney in a non-powering phase.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would have felt weird for either Bayley or Tinney I think to show up in any non-powering category.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think these are all good, like, one tool names to have.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had the same three.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had Bogumpole and Tinney flipped, and I think most of that was just the 90th percentile, but I think your points are with the angles are spot on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in hindsight, I'd probably flip that order for myself, because I think that's a great point to make.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So looking at this now, the one category neither of us has touched is throwing arm for a hitter.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's time for me to just grab that the top player who I have currently available because I had Rochilowski number one for both field and arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I gotta go to my number two arm here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just gonna take Justin LeBron's arm, Alabama short stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's a natural pairing with my rock chelaschi defense.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think just regardless of the defender, I took Justin LeBron has a plus arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a tool that plays effectively on the field.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's shown a really impressive ability to make all the plays necessary as a defender at short stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think,
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a tremendous athlete and I did have some other arms here at other positions and I just have enough of a hang up wondering, okay, like yeah, this is a really good arm from third base, but as the actions here is the is the length of the arm stroke maybe going to hold me back for my short stop if I take an outfield arm same thing do it to I not get the sort of quick exchange and different like slot variability that I want with my short stop and so I'm happy to get
[SPEAKER_02]: Just another of the top short stops in the class.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually had Rochilowski and Justin LeBron one, two, and both my field and arm categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you could maybe switch this one up, depending on which positions you want to throw into the mix.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just think this is the most like natural fit for the defender that I've already taken.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Justin LeBron, Alabama, is my pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: And actually considering how just tools the United Lederky is across the board,
[SPEAKER_02]: I did have him and I guess the running category.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was one of my fallback running options, but I wasn't as excited about taking him there as these two defensive categories.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good pick makes sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had him both in field and arm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those were the categories strategically coming into this that I decided I would pick last.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there are just a number of different ways that you can go.
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that also helps is that we're not specifying in field outfield for field, arm, in field outfield doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the pool of players that you can pick from and feel really good about it, I think is the widest for those two categories.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they said last on my list to fill out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny because I bet you're thrilled then when I maybe you weren't thrilled I took Chilowski, but you're probably pretty happy I took fielding first then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it worked really well for my strategy to get you to get that out of the way early and then allow me to kind of focus on filling out other areas and I think that the interesting part of this also is like as we've talked about now we can take guys who fit in multiple ways and kind of block the other person.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know from putting them in in the different category and so rock was I knew rock was coming off the board first that came down to the coin flip about who was going to get them and it was just a matter of where he was going to get placed the fact that you put him in field was actually reasonably convenient for me like to not get the best player sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for him to go into that category really worked well for me because it kind of allows me to to make up for it in other areas I flip back to pitching because I feel pretty good about where I stand overall and this one is a little more sleeperish kind of I think that it's top 100 caliber but Ricky O'Hadah
[SPEAKER_00]: at UC Irvine is my pick for fastball.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of qualities to like here.
[SPEAKER_00]: From extension, he's bumps up against the sevens, reasonably frequently on extension.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got great riding action on that pitch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just the athleticism that he brings to the table was really nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not necessarily the most overwhelming fastball from a velocity standpoint, but the way that it plays is well above the velocity band.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he's going to have a great year.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're probably going to see him stick in a starter's roll.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will open the season as you see Irvine's Friday guy and just kind of magically speaking, I like with his fastball stands.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say this because your fastball's already done.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this player doesn't fit in any category but fastball.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other one that I consider Jerry heavily and just want to
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, bounce with you back and forth on it for a second here is Bo Rudy over 10 to see just the freaky as fastball that I think I've ever seen it's a it spins in the upper 2700 to 2800s it's got crazy vertical life on it and according to several sources and this is like on the coaching side and on the scouting side, it was a treat to watch him in the fall against some of Tennessee's best hitters he apparently absolutely dominated them.
[SPEAKER_00]: What scared me is that we've never seen him do it against power, conference, competition, and OHA to me feels like a really sure bet in the fastball category, but it was basically one A1B between OHA and Bo Rudy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have anybody else listed on fastball for me because I was that confident that I was going to get at least one of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, both are tremendous picks and they're also like picks that if we would have been talking about college fastballs 10 years ago, probably neither of them are brought up because so much of what their fastballs do effectively is not in the velocity band.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, both these guys are sitting 993, but they have some of the most exceptional
[SPEAKER_02]: Approaches on their fastballs, they're very flat pitches.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rudy, who you mentioned has great writing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, both these guys have great combinations of flat shaped fastballs from lower release heights with great writing life.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of what allows them to be so effective.
[SPEAKER_02]: And despite the fact that the fastball I took was on average almost five miles per hour harder, the misrate that Rihyo hated gut with his fastball last spring was higher than Gabe Gackles.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going to look at this pick and just look at the velocity you're missing a lot of like what makes this a a really smart pick and it is one of the more interesting fastballs in the class I like that one I did not have Ricky down for this pick I actually had Ricky down as a potential backup for curveball.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's curious what you thought about it because like metrically, like how the pitch moves the power of the pitch in particular, I'm not drawn to, but in terms of its effectiveness, it was one of the best swing and miss curveballs of any pitcher who's like throwing them with any sort of frequency last spring.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I had that down as a backup.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't take that now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, good pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm unsure where I need to go now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need both my breaking balls.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need control, and let's recap real quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you go over the team so people can, yeah, so Jacob's players for his, for his hitter, he's targeted hit and power.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's taken Brady Balinger for his hit tool, Carson Tinney, for his power, for his pitcher.
[SPEAKER_02]: He went Ricky O'Hade, a fastball, Jackson, Flora, Slider, Liam Peterson, Kurt Ball, and Cameron Flooky, Control, just maybe worth.
[SPEAKER_02]: emphasizing here that Jacob got all three of the top college pitches in the class at various categories, so box me out with a number of pitchers who would have done well in multiple categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, on the hitter side, I have Miles Bailey's power.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have Lucas Moore's run tool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I rock Chalowski's fielding tool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have Justin LeBron's arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have Gabe Gackle's
[SPEAKER_02]: hitting like secondary position player tools.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm just going to take my hitter now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this player is probably not going to be a favorite for your field or aren't, surely not arm, but he might be a decent option for your fielding.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just going to take,
[SPEAKER_02]: Derek Curiel as my pure hitter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was torn on whether or not I wanted to Curiel or Chris Hacopion, those were my top two guys in this category.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't have a JJ weatherhold or Travis Bazana sort of pure hit tool in this class.
[SPEAKER_02]: Other players I thought about,
[SPEAKER_02]: I had Rock Chalowski down, couldn't take him here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I had Brady Ballinger down YouTube.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had Eric Becker, Lucas Moore down.
[SPEAKER_02]: None of these guys, I'm really thrilled about, but with Derek Curry L, what I know I'm getting is a tremendous batting eye.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's very selective at the play.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been a tremendous peer-hitter dating back to his high school days.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the hitter that we thought he could be is the hitter he was as a freshman of the LSU hit 345, 475, 19.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some things that I'm concerned about a little bit more under the hood, and I'll let you Jacob maybe touch on some of these because we talked about this offline, but I think with
[SPEAKER_02]: and you're getting an elite eye at the plate with a swing that aesthetically and mechanically I like quite a bit, but what's your hang-up with Coriel and maybe why you wouldn't have wanted to take him?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like I'm like going like this because I don't want the LSU fans to come after me here because I really do think that Derek Coriel is a fun college player and I think he's going to be great for them this year and if they do go and win a third championship in four years he will be a huge part of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a player of the year candidate because of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you dig into how he fares against off speed pitching, it is not great and he is exploited by spin rather consistently sliders in zone last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: He hit below 150.
[SPEAKER_00]: His effectiveness in terms of overall contact rate dips below 80% overall.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is a 77 overall contact rate against off speed pitches.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, is he a fastball killer?
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the better ones actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is a phenomenal fastball hitter.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 97% overall contact rate against fastballs.
[SPEAKER_00]: The concern for me is whether or not here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually could pull it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have it right here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, fastballs last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Derek Curiel.
[SPEAKER_00]: had a zone contact rate of 96.6% and overall contact rate of 90.8% phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is great when it comes to hitting fastballs.
[SPEAKER_00]: You adjust that for breaking balls last year, Derek Kiriel.
[SPEAKER_00]: contact rate 77.7% zone contact rate was still in the 90s because as you pointed out he is a good hitter.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to say like this is some bad hitter who's getting overrated.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great we haven't towards the top of our draft board for a reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know that he
[SPEAKER_00]: jumps off the page for the hit tool as much as maybe the surface level stats would indicate the overall picture would indicate and they go a lot of the damage comes against velocity and spin is going to be an issue and because we're looking at the pro side of this, I just wonder if
[SPEAKER_00]: Pro pitching is going to be able to exploit him a little bit when they slow him down.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be my question.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I felt a lot more confident about Brady Bounder at my hit pick because I had the opportunity to go with Kiriel and it was absolutely why my number one choice for hitter Other than rock trust me who I knew I wouldn't get was pretty down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the secondaries are interesting with Creole.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe the one biggest area of concern that I would have for Creole moving forward is just like, how passive is he gonna remain being moving forward?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, his walk rate is impressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a 16% walk rate.
[SPEAKER_02]: He struck at just 17.3% of the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think a lot of that is just because he doesn't swing that often.
[SPEAKER_02]: His swing rate was south of 35% last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: that tracks to his like heart of the zone swing percentage as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: He lets a lot of those pitches go by perfectly fine approach for now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that like as he faces better competition moving forward if he's not able to a lot more strength and the power may be backs up when he goes from metal to wood.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will be curious to see like how he's able to adjust because I'm not sure that he's the sort of hitter that I want to be that passive at the plate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Although I just think in general, he knows which pitches are not strikes and he's going to hold up even if he does get a little bit more aggressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't worry about him being like the chase rate skyrocketing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So those are some some thoughts and curial, but I'm I'm still happy to get him and I've kind of rounded out my my hitter at this point just to recap.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have Derek Creel's hit tool, Miles Bailey's power, which the contrast of those two just from a physicality, standpoint is kind of hilarious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lucas Moore's speed, Rochelowski's defense, and Justin LeBron's arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is my completed hitter.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am going to complete my picture just to throw one final block at you, although I don't think that I think you have better options in the remaining categories that you have to fill out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Aiden can knock is my change up, that's the last category that I had to fill out on the pitching side.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was one of my players for control and I still haven't gotten that, so it's a good pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great change up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's got such, it's an excellent separation off of what is by all accounts pretty mediocre, fastball, but it allows his entire arsenal to play up just because it's so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: He throws it in the mid to low 80s.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got great tumble.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that for me, it's probably the best change up in this draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really like the trade-beard picks, like I don't want to confidently say that it's the best change up in this draft, but you can make the case.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had
[SPEAKER_00]: I had Kenok too and I wasn't confident if it was Tray Bearder Kenok, so yeah, I think these are the two right changeups to take I think that they're the only changeups to take and and you can get like really abstract with it and say, you know, maybe we put Jackson Flora in the changeup category because of how much, you know, promising feedback there's been throughout the fall and he may change to it and it's a kick change and now well, all that kind of stuff is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of proven change ups, there are really two that just stand out and it's beard and can can knock.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this was an obvious pick for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: The second you took beard, I was going to go can knock for change up if I if you had gone can knock, then I would have tried to get beard if you didn't take him in another category.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, no, I think this makes sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, cool, we can recap.
[SPEAKER_02]: So your completed picture is Ricky O'Hadys fastball, juxtaple or slider, Liam Peterson's curveball, Aiden Conox's change up and Cameron fluke's control.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty good job there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good job there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's see, what do I want to target next?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I need to slider a curveball and I need control.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I am going to grab my slider.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the slide that I'm gonna take is Joey Volchko's.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this pitch in a vacuum is one of the most interesting pitches in the class for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the only slider that has the sort of power that Joe, it's a 90 mile per hour slider that's been up to at least on the data, 95.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't shock me if some of those pitches in that range.
[SPEAKER_02]: were cutters or his fastball has a lot of cut as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there could be some blending there, but no matter what, it isn't a tremendously hard pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: 2800 RPM spin.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's this hard, powerful, tight braking pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've seen him in short stints where when he's throwing this pitch over the plate,
[SPEAKER_02]: It is almost impossible for college haters to do anything with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the upside of the pitch is tremendous.
[SPEAKER_02]: His issue has obviously been just can't throw out for strikes, can't you throw it consistently over the plate?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think that, purely like the power of the pitch, you've got a 32% misrate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it could be quite a lot better than that if he's able to throw out for strikes more frequently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or just the overall,
[SPEAKER_02]: the overall strike rate, not just a slider, but like allowing forcing hitters to think about it and to face that pitch in pitcher's counts, I think, would be beneficial for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So almost entirely on just the power spin combination, Voluchko's slider is the pick for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the concerns you laid out perfectly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think like, are we going to see the Joey Volts go that throws strikes or anything close to it, or are we going to see the Joey Volts go that we saw for two years at Stanford?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if it's the Joey Volts go we saw for two years at Stanford, there's a lot of work to be done in terms of getting him to a point where he's a productive professional player.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder, and you can push back on this if you want to, but I almost feel as though Joey Voltschko is the highest ceiling lowest floor player among top, let's say, 60, draft prospects in 2026.
[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously there's just, yeah, I think he could be as good as SP1 if he goes after the season at Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he does everything, there's no reason that he wouldn't be a top 10 overall pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even think it's that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think if Joey Volschko goes out there and he looks half decent and it looks like West Johnson has figured out a way to demonstrate that progress can be made, that he could be the first pitcher off the board.
[SPEAKER_00]: This summer and it be very justified.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we see that there's no progress under West Johnson, I actually really don't know who's gonna make the progress.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I would be really concerned if I was a pro team about using one of my first picks on him because the body upside is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: a grand canyon sized chasm between what is what the could be is and what the is is it's not he has a massive separation between stuff and production and I would be really concerned about that if we don't see progress but again I think that you probably just drafted the highest upside picture in this class.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the best pure stuff when you consider absolutely nothing else he definitely takes the cake
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm hopeful that the player I take for control will help really tie this all together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm currently watching the Wiferyl of Joey Voltschka's Sliders and Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: This bitch is tremendous.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hard gyro biting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the wifts he gets are awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm happy to get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also want to just save for, you know, the listener's here is he did add a sweeper this off season and so Carlos you've kind of in a way because we don't break it out we you did just kind of draft two pitches in one category like and it's the same thing I do with the floor I think that I'll just take the gyro I'll throw away the supervisor and if I only get the gyro here that's fine with me so if you don't want to let me get to that's that's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're getting phenomenal lateral spin, who's when I would call it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of the same strategy I use with Jackson Flora is that there's multiple sliderish shapes that exist in the arsenal and you're kind of drafting all of them at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Volts go to me, fits in that category and is probably right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: One B to Flora Fes, one B on my list, who is the second player that I wanted.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you had gone pitching first,
[SPEAKER_00]: I now have to finish a here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have run field and arm to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take Drew Burris and put him in the field.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he is, if there's one tool that has no real debate when it comes to Drew Burris in the draft community, it's probably what he can do in center.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are questions about the hit tool.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's questions about whether or not the power will translate when you put wooden his hands and get him against pro pitching, where I don't think that there is a lot to discuss is just when you put him in center field.
[SPEAKER_00]: He glides out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets to a lot of balls.
[SPEAKER_00]: He covers great range.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited about him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also had him in my arm category.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so just the overall glove player fell like great pick for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no doubt, Senator Fielder for me, he really can get after it out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did have him on my field in category as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was actually my number two priority position player.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him in a number of different categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him further down the list in power just because I think a lot of his ability to get to his power in game pulling the ball in the air with a great frequency is nice for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him in both field and arm as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you touched on the arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's got to get throwing arm as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess you can't take him for that now.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think maybe surprising that it's taken nearly an hour for us to get to Drew Burris in a college best toolstrap because his tools are exceptional, but this is a category that I was like if you'd gotten rocked your last gear just in the bra and I couldn't get a short stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was lining up Lucas Moran Drew Burris for for fielding a center field.
[SPEAKER_02]: So nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I think I'm going to tackle
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to go with Chase Myers curveball.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is West Virginia right hand of pitcher Chase Meyer.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the highest spin breaking balls in the class.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe some debate on whether I'm taking, like an in between slider or curveball.
[SPEAKER_02]: The shape of this pitch and both a slider and curveball are more curveball typical.
[SPEAKER_02]: But with both the breaking balls that I've been taking, power has been
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, a priority as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So among the, the curve balls that I'm looking at among the top players in the class that are super high spin pitches.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got guys like Chase Meyer, Jason Acara, Bryson Moore, Max Knight, Chase Myers, just the velocity of his breaking balls in a different category than these other guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of a unique pitch because of that movement power combination.
[SPEAKER_02]: He generated a 41% misrate with the pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last spring.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think I'm getting power.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting spin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting movement.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting depth.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting horizontal break.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like it quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a really good pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was on my list of curve ball guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: One player who I completely forgot to bring this up after we talked about Voltschko, the slider category, you know, it's a fun game to think about like who are the great players that aren't going to have their names called and this because it's only two of us co car loan in the slider category, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had him there as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what have been the great pick and I feel like he's just somebody because ultimately this is the draft podcast and while he will not be selected because I cannot imagine that you're going to take him for control.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great one for for slider and has an awesome feel for spin, so that that's just somebody who I thought was worth mentioning, but great pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, now you've got a need to put down to Bruce you've got run and arm to tackle here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do and I have gone back and forth.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm doing run.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just start with that and there are several guys who I think fit really well into this category still.
[SPEAKER_00]: Initially, I had penciled in a sleeper because I figured that you were going to take both of the guys who I would have wanted to maybe put in this category.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's your second words.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because when I look as more as one, I'm curious here's second run is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was kind of a tie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had multiple ways to cut this one, depending on what you did.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of them was a major sleeper, and that's Owen Hall, who is now going to play center field at North Carolina.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's told 42 bags last year at George Mason.
[SPEAKER_00]: If there's one sure fire tool in his arsenal, it is the ability to run.
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks great on the bases and from everything that I've heard in the preseason, he has been very effective in center as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I considered Owen Hall.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I am, I did not have them there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great one, and it does feel like every year North Carolina has a center filler that fits for this category.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, and it's like the most sure fire way to go about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I have to go with Jason Walk.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that that, to me is like,
[SPEAKER_00]: The easy number two, just to let people know where I was debating it, I thought that there was a chance that you were going to put rock in the hit category, more in run and take walk and field before I got to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I had Owen Hall as like my that's how Carlos is going to go about this draft and I'm not right any of these guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Jason Walk is an awesome runner.
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks great in center field.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to talk about somebody who like glides in center field and looks like they're floating.
[SPEAKER_00]: He may actually be the best in terms of the field kind of greatest.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like I'm drafting some some strength there as well, but a burner on the bases too.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel great about Jason Walk.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not think I was going to get him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a couple of your running options were really great ones that I did not have here on the board and I feel a little dumb for not even having them on my list.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other runners I had were traitors are at Houston Trent Rice Oakland and Justin LeBron was kind of like my backup just because I think all these other runners we talked about are a little bit more dynamic than him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I actually wrote on my on my draft sheet here.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like major emergency break glass situation was any VMI hitter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, that's a great one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, but I didn't have to go that far.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Jason Walker is okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just have control left.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I've got two of my top three players on the board.
[SPEAKER_02]: You took the other one Cameron Flooky who's been unavailable the entirety of this draft.
[SPEAKER_02]: My heart wants to go with one player, but my head and like the numbers make me want to go for another.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to go with my heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've got a lot of my favorite categories here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a lot of players who are top so I'm gonna list.
[SPEAKER_02]: This player is not the top player on my board, but just like watching him pitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: gets me excited, especially when I'm looking at all the like the peer stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm giving him to work with here, but I'm going to go with Ryan Morone, left in a picture from in the screen of the two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that makes me feel good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no one doubts the pitching ability that this guy has, and two seasons within C-State, he's
[SPEAKER_02]: made 24 starts in 30 games.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has walked 2.7 batters per nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was 3.8 his freshman year, which is more surprising than I would ever expected him to have in college.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then 2.0 per nine as a sophomore.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you look at his overall strike rate across the board, 64% 68% fastball strike rate.
[SPEAKER_02]: A little surprise, the change of and slider are only a 60% but I won't get too hung up on just the pure strikes numbers here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if he had maybe more overwhelming stuff, he could easily live within the zone more frequently than he does now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a chance to watch Moron when he was just a high school player and kind of a back of the 500 type for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just his ability to sequence his ability to mix and match change shapes change speeds with the fastball breaking ball change up has always been appealing.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other player that I'm not sure would have been considered for any other category.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was my kind of like, it wasn't really a backup option because I think his numbers hold up well but Luke Pettett at Dallas Baptist, the son of Andy Pettett, his strike numbers are tremendous and granted he's not throwing a ton of innings and so there could be some small sample noise in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, any of the pictures I would have considered for any of these tool categories has fastball strike rate from last year is insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cameron Flukis is 74%, Luke Pettitz is 76% and he's basically walked into no one across two partial seasons with DBU and a summer, so I think he's actually a sneaky good pick for control as well, but I got to take my guy right in my room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a that's an awesome pick and I I had maroon listed second behind fluky because again it was my plan the entire time to kind of burn fluky in the control area time for the arm category I do respect before you get to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do respect that you saved arm for last because this is just the most boring category.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think in general.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't feel like I needed to rush to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I also knew, I didn't know, but I had a very strong feeling that I was gonna be able to do this category my way and the only way I was gonna do it because it is such a boring category.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was to throw somebody who has pitched in college into this grovelin.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I came down to three.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll lay them all out and you and I can discuss them.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's playing second base because it's a loaded roster, but he has a hose, Noah Franco at Texas Christian.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also has thrown, is expected to do it again this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll actually give you four take Davis at Louisville.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's playing first base, but again, somebody who has a weapon when it comes to throwing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the sneakyest one is teammates with Joey Volcco, Kenny Ishikawa.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a good one from Seattle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my pick is Kenny Ishikawa.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really fun
[SPEAKER_00]: He is going to play in the outfield for the Bulldogs this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has a chance if he's going to be as effective as it sounds like he might be to be their Friday starter and granted that is loud because he's in the same rotation as Joey Volcco and Matt Scott.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it comes down to whether or not, you know, it's more of a volatility problem on those guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is like Kenny, she cow has claimed Friday night.
[SPEAKER_00]: But from what I've heard he's been incredibly consistent.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's up to 96 from the left side.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be able to have a hose in the outfield because of it super good athlete.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like 5 foot 10.
[SPEAKER_00]: He runs really well and it's just kind of this like spark plug style player who does a lot of good things, you know, just impressively.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was the guy who I had circled for the arm category.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was excited to say it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a feeling you were going to draft him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now he was not on my board, and I also like to, so if you had taken an infielder for your fielding tool, and not an outfielder, would you still have taken Ishikawa?
[SPEAKER_02]: He has left handed, I'm not sure if that would have been enough a hangout for you to not make the pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the fact that you got an outfielder, it's irrelevant even if you didn't want to fold in the handedness factor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really think about it to be honest with you because we kind of threw out hand in this for pitching.
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like it was like, yeah, 10 though.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was very important when it came to the fielding.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, it does fit conveniently that I have Drew Burris and center field and Kenny Ishikawa's arm to throw on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's a,
[SPEAKER_00]: formidable combination of tools, but but I was honestly of all of the picks on my entire lineup here, if I could just like pick the two that I was the most excited about, it was probably Ballinger's my hitter and Ishikawa as my arm, which is crazy, but you've got to borrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like,
[SPEAKER_00]: the last thing that I needed and wanted and didn't really care about the most, but yet I was like waiting to throw Kenny Ishikawa's name into this conversation because, you know, just to go back to something that we've been doing with almost every player in this, I think that there's a lot of value in talking about the holistic draft prospect, and he also fits in the boundary category for me as somebody who
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe needs to be on the radar a little bit more aggressively at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: The feedback has been outstanding and that's actually as a two way player.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard great things about what he's been able to do with the plate.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a good eye.
[SPEAKER_00]: The hit tool is is really solid if not plus and then the arm is is impressive.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's going to be able to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be able to go through strikes on the mound.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a really good athletic mover.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's somebody who I'm pretty excited about going into 26.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that rounds us out just really quickly to go over both of our players.
[SPEAKER_02]: My hitter, Derek Cariel's hit tool, Miles Bailey's power, Lucas Moore's speed, Roch Laske's defense, Justin LeBron's arm, Jacob's hitter, is Brady Ballinger's hit tool, Carson Tini's power, Jason Walk's speed, Drew Burst's defense, and Kenny Ishikawa's arm.
[SPEAKER_02]: My pitcher is Gabe Geckle's fastball, Joey Volchko's slider, Jason Myers-Curbball, trade beard's change up in Ryan Morone's control.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jacob's pitcher is,
[SPEAKER_02]: Ricky O'Hade is fastball, Jackson Flores Slider, Liam Peterson's Kerbal, Aden Canox, Changeup and Cameron Flukies control.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jacob, any final thoughts in the other players you want to mention that you had in categories that we didn't discuss, a few of the players that I considered taking, I thought about Vaughn Lacky for defense, neither of us took a catcher,
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought about my arm, I had more conventional arm tools, years were a lot more fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: As my backup, so I had Daniel Kovey and Gavin Grahovic, as like third baseman, would just big arms.
[SPEAKER_02]: For fastball, I had Thomas Burns as a player that we didn't talk about here from Texas.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were the only one that stood as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was a potential option.
[SPEAKER_02]: Carson Wiggins, Teacon Cunes, as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought about, I think we mentioned.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan was on my fastball list, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought about Cole Stokes and Cole Carlin for Slider.
[SPEAKER_02]: John Abraham was a curveball option for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has some kind of sneaky pitch data there and then change up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, I kind of assumed beard and can occur and gonna be our guys, but I also had West Mendez, Connor Fennel, and Ryan Morone.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then my last one that I don't know if we mentioned for control, I did have Luke Pettit there, but I also had Ethan Norby and he's Carolina.
[SPEAKER_02]: So those are some of the guys who I had on the list that we didn't get to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, Ethan Norby and three categories.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had him in fastball slider and control, so I was pretty high on Norby going into the season.
[SPEAKER_00]: I only had two players listed on change up like you did.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that beard and can not go be the ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: Curveball, as I said earlier, I was so confident that I was gonna get Liam Peterson that that was the only person who I listed at Curveball.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I went into it thinking like, I'm gonna take him early.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna put him in a weird category.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna blow Carlos from getting it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I didn't really have to think about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The slider was the one that I had the most guys in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually, I'm happy to say that a lot of them were talked about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Carlone was on my list, Flora, who I got, Gackle, who you drafted, Volcco, who you drafted, fluky, who I drafted, all of those guys were on my slider category.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they fit really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned England Brian for Fastball.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got O'Hato, who was my top pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think who else I had.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's pretty much it for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I listed the arms that I that I was considering the field was kind of just a however you didn't do it was going to be who I was going to pop in field rock shell Last key was on there just in the brawn was on there Lucas more Burrish who I got walk why got those were kind of my my fielders.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, did you have did you have Lucas more over Drew Burrish or no for fielding
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had Drew Burris listed as my top filter and it was almost entirely because I knew that it was either going to be you or I who put him in the run category so I didn't even bother building out my filter group with him because I was going to target run well before I
[SPEAKER_00]: was going to target field and that's pretty much how it went down until you took more and then I could kind of deprive or ties.
[SPEAKER_00]: How I wanted to do it, power was Bailey, Tinney, Bogenpole were the top three and then the hitters I already went over them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Curial was on the list, but further down it, Balinger was on their rock was on there.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sneakyest one and for those of you who pay attention to our content over at baseballamerica.com, Braden Martin over at Maryland was on my list, probably the weirdest hit product tax
[SPEAKER_02]: And he doesn't join Carson, you're throwing Carson Tini's power on to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be a really compelling offensive.
[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be a really compelling offensive package.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is is that Raiden Martin swings 25% of the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I would be concerned that we would just never see Carson Tini's power on this build a player.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Raiden Martin is super intriguing and he walks like 50 walks like 59 times last year and struck out like seven times.
[SPEAKER_00]: So one of the weirder profiles in the draft and that kind of rounds it out for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one other that I forgot to mention, and maybe the most notable player that did not here is named called.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had saw your Schnaßneiter down the list in my power department as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it is interesting that I think he's a really toolsy player all around, but we didn't have him at the top in any of our categories.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious if you had him down for anything, and maybe if there's a player that you're surprised didn't hear their name called at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I think most of the names make sense, but he is maybe the most notable player that we did not get involved in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: The the top thing across you may be is another player that could have been some categories Gracia is definitely somebody but the three that I was the most surprised not to hear were Cole Carlone which I said after we finished out the slider category I think he's got a great one I think that
[SPEAKER_00]: Stroke Snyder was number two for me on run, but then just kind of the way that things shook out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I decided to not do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also had him in field and arm.
[SPEAKER_00]: So those were categories that I thought that he fit really well and then, you know, I decided to get a little bit more creative with my arm category at the last second.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it just eliminated him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then yeah, Grasio was somebody who I thought about maybe belonged in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we, I think we did a good job of like touching on the players who are going to be
[SPEAKER_00]: the most prominent in in their given categories.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that we missed on a lot of guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: One one guy for field, who I forgot to bring up that I deeply consider was right or health-rich at Arkansas.
[SPEAKER_00]: I heard a lot of good things about the way that he runs a game.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to call his own pitches this year, which is increasingly rare among college players that's even becoming something that doesn't happen at the pro level, shout out to the marlins.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I I thought about him for sure as a fielder at catcher.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, well, that wraps up this year's college best tools draft.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know which players you're more excited about in the comments.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know if there are any tools that we didn't mention that you think should have been brought up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Jacob, we've been going here for over an hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: So unless you've got anything to add, we can kind of wrap.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, pretty excited about my picture.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that my picture is a formidable force who's got every top guy in the draft and that my hitting is like a collection of who's who on the sleeper side.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, your picture is like, these are the best pictures in the class, come at me and your hitters like, these are my like guys you need to be paying attention to and fun tools.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I like how you attacked it this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's gonna wrap it for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for,
[SPEAKER_02]: Hoping on here, Jacob, hopefully we'll have you more on the draft podcast throughout the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys for listening to the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for subscribing to baseball, America.
[SPEAKER_02]: Supporting the work we do, allowing us to spend an hour of our time talking about toolsy players in college baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for Jacob, I'm Carlos, so long, everybody.