WEBVTT 00:08.317 --> 00:16.732 [SPEAKER_02]: What is up everybody welcome to the stack I'm Alex I'm Justin I'm Pete and on the stack We talk about a bunch of books that have come out this week. 00:16.852 --> 00:20.579 [SPEAKER_02]: Why do we kick it off with a big one D.C. K.O. 00:20.740 --> 00:29.295 [SPEAKER_02]: number three From D.C. coming out is what that is oh D.C. stands for detective comics detective comics knockout 00:29.917 --> 00:46.474 [SPEAKER_02]: I believe it's actually King Omega Justin, but deep front DC comics run by Scottsnighter and Joshua Williams It art by Holly Fernandez and Zermanico and this issue the tournament is heating up with tag of teams Bringing back team back again 00:46.454 --> 00:49.519 [SPEAKER_02]: And you would think, like, okay, a lead eight, we're going to get four teams. 00:49.560 --> 00:50.822 [SPEAKER_02]: That's how what happens at all. 00:50.902 --> 01:00.098 [SPEAKER_02]: There's another swarrow from the heart of Apocalypse as they are allowed to bring back characters who have been lost in the tournament that have been there. 01:00.178 --> 01:02.202 [SPEAKER_01]: There are people, Alex, there are people. 01:03.228 --> 01:08.357 [SPEAKER_01]: Just so you know, they're real people, friends, best friends, one might say. 01:08.737 --> 01:12.123 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when they get to pick the best friend, the bestie. 01:12.143 --> 01:22.941 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, except for Joker who gets picked from anybody, because he has collected the most Omega energy so far as his reveals here, leading to 01:24.187 --> 01:44.507 [SPEAKER_02]: final four at the end at a new matchup that I think pretty much everybody was coming they've been presaging it's the first issue but that all said I should have said this before but spoiler warning for everything we're going to talk about here I think we've been loving DC KO so far does the love continue it issue three peat. 01:44.487 --> 01:48.894 [SPEAKER_00]: Hells to the yes and first off a bad ass cover. 01:48.994 --> 01:55.403 [SPEAKER_00]: This is one of them that are up there, but there's some unbelievable other ones that are just absolutely phenomenal. 01:55.944 --> 02:05.619 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, what uh, just kind of heightening of the fight and also like some of the stuff that goes down in this issue, just oh shit moments. 02:05.899 --> 02:13.110 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean Superman still in the shazam powers wasn't saying stealing. 02:13.090 --> 02:14.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, not stealing. 02:14.653 --> 02:15.654 [SPEAKER_00]: He works out of deal. 02:15.694 --> 02:32.483 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it was a little shady, but man, alive, Joker being a problem, Wonder Woman and Barton teaming up, yes, please all day, I'm having such a fun time with this. 02:32.463 --> 02:34.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Just awesome. 02:34.466 --> 02:36.008 [SPEAKER_00]: This is just such a cool about. 02:36.529 --> 02:37.690 [SPEAKER_00]: So well executed. 02:37.730 --> 02:40.815 [SPEAKER_00]: You get a handle on it and then they just turn it up to 11. 02:42.277 --> 02:42.958 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, please. 02:43.038 --> 02:43.378 [SPEAKER_00]: More. 02:43.579 --> 02:44.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 02:44.500 --> 02:46.042 [SPEAKER_00]: But the dial only goes to 10p. 02:46.783 --> 02:47.524 [SPEAKER_01]: It only goes to 10. 02:47.584 --> 02:48.285 [SPEAKER_01]: Not all dials. 02:49.367 --> 02:49.807 [SPEAKER_01]: The right. 02:49.867 --> 02:51.770 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, are you saying it's turned up to 11 out of 50? 02:52.631 --> 02:52.731 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 02:52.751 --> 02:53.493 [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, sorry. 02:53.513 --> 02:54.554 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry to take you to the side. 02:54.614 --> 03:02.385 [SPEAKER_02]: Pete, can you stop tweeting that every day you get out there and you tweet hashtag not all dials and I'm like, 03:02.365 --> 03:27.057 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad, it's not like your sad 03:27.037 --> 03:27.638 [SPEAKER_01]: because of it. 03:27.918 --> 03:28.399 [SPEAKER_01]: He does. 03:28.479 --> 03:28.779 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 03:30.141 --> 03:32.184 [SPEAKER_01]: Which I thought was a nice addition. 03:32.665 --> 03:36.830 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this picture, this picture of Superman is so awesome. 03:36.850 --> 03:43.339 [SPEAKER_01]: The Shazam, the lighting bulb, bleeding out of the Superman logo is dope. 03:43.820 --> 03:49.888 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the way the just getting down to the lettering, the way that the narration is structured here throughout. 03:49.868 --> 03:54.673 [SPEAKER_01]: The panels reflect the, let's smash our toys together mythology here. 03:55.234 --> 04:00.860 [SPEAKER_01]: The battles bleed into each other in a way that I did not expect panel by a panel for a lot of them. 04:01.620 --> 04:09.348 [SPEAKER_01]: It just, because not only are the characters fighting, the panels themselves are fighting, the net that lettering and everything is fighting, the colors are fighting. 04:10.049 --> 04:13.733 [SPEAKER_01]: This is like an all-fight book down to the very medium. 04:13.713 --> 04:34.962 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's such a just next level design thinking this is such a well thought-out thing where I imagine I want to be in the room I want to have been in the room when they were just throwing ideas at the whiteboard and seeing what stuck because I think it's just an idea All the ideas are fighting as well and it means we win 04:34.942 --> 04:39.871 [SPEAKER_02]: I will give this the hat trick and say that I love this as well. 04:40.051 --> 04:48.246 [SPEAKER_02]: I am having a great time and I'll add on the thing that I think that is making this work beyond your absolutely right-chested about all the toys of the toy box, the sense of it. 04:48.687 --> 04:51.853 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's also that Scott Snyder has a really 04:51.833 --> 05:00.702 [SPEAKER_02]: amazing handle on all of these characters and is able to give each of the characters their own moment to their son their own spotlight. 05:00.762 --> 05:10.613 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm specifically thinking of like superhero gets brought up as a back as the tag team for the next Luther and immediately is like, you think I'd ever team with you? 05:10.653 --> 05:15.698 [SPEAKER_02]: No, come on let's kick his ass and it's a fun fight moment and 05:15.678 --> 05:40.521 [SPEAKER_02]: But it is perfectly in line with Supergirl in our characters, well, but the biggest example of it is how he's treating Superman and how he's pushing Superman in this book, which is a very different riff on what you get of like the last temptation of Superman's storyline. 05:40.501 --> 05:43.404 [SPEAKER_02]: you really push them to the edge to see if you can get a dark superman. 05:43.464 --> 05:48.728 [SPEAKER_02]: This is doing that, but do we get it a logical way? 05:48.788 --> 05:52.632 [SPEAKER_02]: We're superman is thinking around like, wait, what would dark side do? 05:52.752 --> 05:53.933 [SPEAKER_02]: How would he approach this? 05:54.073 --> 06:01.900 [SPEAKER_02]: I got to win this tournament for good and is not realizing or is realizing but going down the road of temptation the entire time anyway? 06:01.940 --> 06:09.107 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's allowing superman to be superman, but it has that tension running throughout at the same time. 06:09.167 --> 06:10.508 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just 06:10.488 --> 06:15.939 [SPEAKER_02]: really a fantastic climatic residence alongside the character work. 06:15.959 --> 06:17.182 [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to check in. 06:17.522 --> 06:27.062 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're what you're saying a little bit is that if you were writing Superman you would murder lowest lane right away and then shop off Jimmy's hands. 06:27.228 --> 06:45.135 [SPEAKER_02]: like, so we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, 06:45.115 --> 06:46.517 [SPEAKER_02]: The pressure character of the edge. 06:46.537 --> 06:47.439 [SPEAKER_02]: Marvel does this a lot. 06:47.459 --> 06:53.309 [SPEAKER_02]: They did this with Colossus where they're like we're going to ruin your life and taking out the Colossus famous for the nicest character. 06:53.830 --> 06:54.792 [SPEAKER_02]: You're the nicest character. 06:54.852 --> 07:01.724 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say if we can make you mean they did the same thing with speedball and turnip and dependence it happens pretty pretty Related by crushed me. 07:02.225 --> 07:03.006 [SPEAKER_01]: So I get it 07:02.986 --> 07:04.028 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:04.048 --> 07:04.148 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:04.188 --> 07:09.275 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are two great and equally important examples of what they're doing. 07:09.315 --> 07:09.776 [SPEAKER_02]: I really did. 07:09.796 --> 07:10.337 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys know what I mean. 07:10.357 --> 07:20.472 [SPEAKER_02]: I do want to throw out one thing about the art, which are generally like, but there are a couple of panels that we want you to be able to exactly like, exactly like, 07:20.452 --> 07:43.675 [SPEAKER_02]: first Raphael Albuquerque and then there's the panel, the panel of Supergirl in particular shouting looked like Nictra Goda and I just wonder if like, either way, it's fine, but I wonder if Havi for Dad is this Aping their style or there are some quick fill in panels going on here and there, just because the art style seemed a little, 07:43.655 --> 08:10.287 [SPEAKER_01]: different how is it there you this was that I know to me it to me it feels intentional it feels like not the aping at all but just like that everything is getting a little stretchy and sketchy which is sort of like Nick to wrote it to go to a bit at times because there's just so much energy crackling around the this fight and just this omega whether it's the omega or there in hell sort of here so there's just 08:10.267 --> 08:15.894 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like the drawings themselves are taking on this energized resonance. 08:17.176 --> 08:17.276 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 08:17.296 --> 08:17.917 [SPEAKER_01]: What do I want to say? 08:17.997 --> 08:18.878 [SPEAKER_01]: One more thing though. 08:18.898 --> 08:18.998 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 08:19.018 --> 08:23.804 [SPEAKER_01]: I also like, we didn't talk too much about all the little plot twists and turns that happen in here. 08:24.345 --> 08:25.386 [SPEAKER_01]: Which are gene. 08:25.466 --> 08:34.037 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's just, we've simplified it by saying it's a big fight, but it's actually there's so many nuanced choices here that are very smartly laid out. 08:34.077 --> 08:37.962 [SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to give it that it's a thinking person's fight. 08:38.093 --> 08:42.139 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and speaking of which we were thinking a lot about it. 08:42.259 --> 08:51.251 [SPEAKER_02]: So since we have another round of the tournament down, it's probably time to check in and are increasingly insane brackets that don't actually Connected anything. 08:51.672 --> 08:53.995 [SPEAKER_02]: So why don't we bring this up right now? 08:54.175 --> 08:56.498 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not gonna do brackets about a creative event. 08:56.899 --> 08:57.840 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me just say 08:57.820 --> 09:00.266 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so here we go. 09:00.326 --> 09:03.493 [SPEAKER_02]: I believe this first one is Pete's Brock. 09:03.633 --> 09:08.505 [SPEAKER_02]: If I remember correctly, so we're down to the, let's talk about who you have it in the final four. 09:08.585 --> 09:13.095 [SPEAKER_02]: So you had Superman vs. Firestorm, Superman makes it. 09:13.075 --> 09:16.363 [SPEAKER_02]: nice Aquaman vs. Supergirl Supergirl makes it. 09:16.423 --> 09:17.446 [SPEAKER_02]: No, she's out. 09:17.466 --> 09:20.193 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if she's back this issue, Wonder Woman vs. Swam thing. 09:20.273 --> 09:21.757 [SPEAKER_02]: Wonder Woman doesn't need to make it. 09:22.298 --> 09:25.526 [SPEAKER_02]: And then Damien Wayne vs. Harley Quinn and Damien Wayne made it. 09:25.586 --> 09:28.333 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're actually like 50, 50 at this point. 09:28.313 --> 09:30.697 [SPEAKER_01]: I think actually pizza-winning pretty hand-picked. 09:30.777 --> 09:31.298 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember great. 09:31.318 --> 09:33.561 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, and I think the next one is yours, Justin. 09:33.762 --> 09:37.648 [SPEAKER_02]: You had Captain Adam versus Jay Garrick with Captain Adam winning. 09:38.209 --> 09:39.370 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not true. 09:39.471 --> 09:43.857 [SPEAKER_02]: So Hawkman versus Supergirl, they do both come back this issue. 09:43.877 --> 09:45.340 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I was predicting. 09:45.560 --> 09:46.381 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I want to do. 09:46.442 --> 09:47.062 [SPEAKER_02]: That's how I want to do. 09:47.083 --> 09:48.685 [SPEAKER_02]: And Supergirl comes out, but that's not out. 09:48.665 --> 09:50.630 [SPEAKER_02]: accurate Wonder Woman versus Batwoman. 09:50.650 --> 09:51.513 [SPEAKER_02]: You got Wonder Woman. 09:51.533 --> 09:52.074 [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. 09:52.696 --> 09:55.925 [SPEAKER_02]: Red Hood versus Harley Quinn leading to Red Hood. 09:56.306 --> 09:57.348 [SPEAKER_02]: So you do have Wonder Woman. 09:57.469 --> 10:00.657 [SPEAKER_02]: So yes, Pete is winning so far with two out of four. 10:02.101 --> 10:03.906 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if I got any of them. 10:03.886 --> 10:05.708 [SPEAKER_02]: Superman vs. Firestorm. 10:05.748 --> 10:06.248 [SPEAKER_02]: Superman. 10:06.408 --> 10:06.689 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 10:06.709 --> 10:07.109 [SPEAKER_02]: There we go. 10:07.149 --> 10:10.572 [SPEAKER_02]: I got one man versus black lightning. 10:10.612 --> 10:13.355 [SPEAKER_02]: I said black lightning way off there. 10:14.236 --> 10:14.336 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:14.516 --> 10:15.897 [SPEAKER_02]: Then Wonder Woman vs. 10:16.338 --> 10:17.339 [SPEAKER_02]: Swamp thing. 10:17.419 --> 10:18.240 [SPEAKER_02]: I had Wonder Woman. 10:18.380 --> 10:18.740 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 10:18.760 --> 10:20.221 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm a 50 50 as well. 10:20.281 --> 10:23.144 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I got Batman vs. Barda with Batman winning. 10:23.705 --> 10:24.305 [SPEAKER_02]: And Batman. 10:24.425 --> 10:24.806 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 10:24.946 --> 10:25.306 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see. 10:25.346 --> 10:28.169 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he might come back to the competition. 10:28.329 --> 10:29.570 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm probably at 75. 10:29.770 --> 10:31.412 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we can just kind of wrap up there. 10:33.687 --> 10:35.671 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, interesting story. 10:35.811 --> 10:38.296 [SPEAKER_02]: So that was, yeah, no, no, I'm sure it is. 10:38.376 --> 10:40.179 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that's how it does it in? 10:40.400 --> 10:41.061 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no. 10:41.682 --> 10:42.023 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 10:42.564 --> 10:49.818 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, regardless, Pete and I are tied with 50, 50, just the 25, but anything can happen as we head towards the end of the truth. 10:50.239 --> 10:50.920 [SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait. 10:50.900 --> 10:58.552 [SPEAKER_02]: Next up, Avengers 34 from Marvel Written by Jim McKay and Brian Michael Bendis, Art by Friede Carami and Mark Bagley. 10:58.572 --> 11:10.630 [SPEAKER_02]: The front story is continuing the Avengers and the Twilight court taking on Kang with a bit of anniversary stylings going on here because it's also legacy numbered 800. 11:11.050 --> 11:15.237 [SPEAKER_02]: The backstory is Bendis and Bagley taking on. 11:15.417 --> 11:16.198 [SPEAKER_00]: We should talk about this. 11:16.178 --> 11:34.796 [SPEAKER_02]: All that ironman, cat to America, and Thor, and then many others meeting up on the anniversary of the Avengers, and as PTists, we had a really lovely, really long conversation with Brian Michael Beddys this week about this issue, and many other things that is in the podcast feed, so please do go check it out. 11:35.056 --> 11:36.219 [SPEAKER_02]: What's it like too long? 11:36.399 --> 11:37.461 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 11:37.677 --> 11:42.603 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice, nice log, that's nice, that's nice, this is a great chat. 11:42.743 --> 11:44.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was lovely, he's a lovely guy. 11:44.685 --> 11:47.268 [SPEAKER_02]: What did you guys think about this issue, what did you think about the anniversary? 11:47.949 --> 11:55.317 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, this was a blast, it was a real celebration of these characters, done in a kind of cool, loving way. 11:55.437 --> 12:03.246 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the start of Bendus' kind of backup story was very touching and just kind of unique. 12:03.226 --> 12:20.913 [SPEAKER_00]: really felt like you were witnessing old friends getting together and it was both kind of magical and beautiful and yeah it was kind of a felt like a flying wall of just old friends hanging out so I loved it. 12:21.314 --> 12:27.563 [SPEAKER_00]: Also first story was a blast with Kang and all that kind of stuff so I thought this 12:27.543 --> 12:51.441 [SPEAKER_01]: great issues celebrating the Avengers and art was phenomenal tons of action great story so total package yeah i mean i agree in the the pat the total package a tp yeah you love a time package stamp that on the cover here yeah because just in we have plans hallelujah to go out and tp some houses right yeah i can't get a total package them 12:51.421 --> 13:14.408 [SPEAKER_01]: The front story is such a new, it's actually sort of a retrospective on Jed's run, which is nice, but it's all new, it's what the story that Alex has been waiting for, the Twilight Court and the Ashen Combine are back, but two things, yeah, it's going hard there, a little little moment. 13:31.145 --> 13:36.913 [SPEAKER_01]: But the other side of the seesaw is Benus's Benus and Bagley store, which is very much looking back. 13:37.373 --> 13:39.656 [SPEAKER_01]: It touches on the Avengers. 13:39.917 --> 13:47.647 [SPEAKER_01]: It uses the Avengers key cards, they're communicators, which I thought was such a nice, like, I'm the older guy coming back here. 13:47.707 --> 13:52.834 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take something from the past that was cool that at me is a reader. 13:52.934 --> 13:55.397 [SPEAKER_01]: I loved that part of the Avengers, like, 13:55.377 --> 13:57.741 [SPEAKER_01]: merch their own internal merch. 13:58.542 --> 14:00.405 [SPEAKER_01]: So bringing that back here I thought was awesome. 14:00.545 --> 14:02.068 [SPEAKER_01]: The story is beautifully done. 14:02.128 --> 14:03.370 [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it in the interview. 14:03.430 --> 14:11.002 [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many really nice intimate connective moments between characters one to one before we get this sort of a larger thing that happens. 14:11.563 --> 14:15.289 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this was just a nice combination of new and old. 14:16.310 --> 14:17.993 [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely pick up. 14:17.973 --> 14:29.043 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just to quickly talk about the, the King of it all in the first story was such a fun idea that it was so well executed where they were just like, Oh, we're all together. 14:29.083 --> 14:30.184 [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's kick King's pun. 14:30.204 --> 14:32.025 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, actually we're going to talk to King. 14:32.045 --> 14:32.946 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, what? 14:33.427 --> 14:35.769 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was such a kind of fun. 14:35.989 --> 14:38.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but we're all here together. 14:38.811 --> 14:47.659 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like that's the only thing we can do, but it was such a kind of cool, 14:48.095 --> 14:56.788 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh crap, King, you know, doesn't have it all figured out and you know, maybe we'll learn something so it should be interesting, but yeah. 14:57.123 --> 15:07.955 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, just wanted to kind of think that I loved about the backup story, just to agree with you guys on that is the differences between the characters which bend as news so well. 15:08.616 --> 15:13.781 [SPEAKER_02]: Even though I feel like it gets a lot of black subtitles for writing characters very say me. 15:13.861 --> 15:16.024 [SPEAKER_02]: They're always very joky and quippy. 15:16.604 --> 15:18.486 [SPEAKER_02]: But everybody sounds different. 15:18.546 --> 15:19.788 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody relates differently. 15:19.968 --> 15:26.455 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, it is very comforting, but it's also very funny at the same time. 15:26.435 --> 15:37.125 [SPEAKER_02]: And I hadn't realized until we talked about this that Mark Bagley had retired, so I didn't really really nice seeing him on the art, and it's just a great Mark Bagley art throughout that story as well. 15:37.145 --> 15:40.187 [SPEAKER_02]: So, just worth it for the backup story for sure. 15:40.488 --> 15:40.808 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice. 15:41.709 --> 15:56.442 [SPEAKER_00]: I also think that like, you know, talking about what you're saying is I'll been of like, just the looks that they were given, like there was a one part where Tony Stark's like, well, maybe I could talk to her and just like the other two kind of just share a look. 15:56.422 --> 16:02.531 [SPEAKER_00]: Artistically, that's hard to do, but it was just so well executed, and so it's the pacing of everything. 16:02.591 --> 16:10.824 [SPEAKER_02]: We're like when they cut over to Madame Viper, and she's just laughing and going like, Ha ha ha ha, as a punchline to a joke. 16:10.844 --> 16:13.047 [SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny, and it's based out perfectly. 16:13.127 --> 16:15.190 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just two masters who know what they're doing. 16:15.170 --> 16:20.357 [SPEAKER_01]: And Alex Dirkwick, did you weigh on in the origin of the impossible city via the Twilight Court in their turn of the night? 16:20.377 --> 16:22.159 [SPEAKER_02]: I love really about that backup story. 16:22.200 --> 16:23.461 [SPEAKER_02]: What a great backup story. 16:23.501 --> 16:23.742 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 16:23.762 --> 16:25.404 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on to talking about trends. 16:25.544 --> 16:32.173 [SPEAKER_02]: Former number 28 from Skybound and image comics written by Robert Kirkman, art by Deadpool. 16:32.293 --> 16:34.276 [SPEAKER_02]: This issue is a big boxing. 16:34.436 --> 16:37.781 [SPEAKER_02]: Boxing metal dudes are smashing up against each other. 16:38.221 --> 16:39.663 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's roll call time. 16:39.843 --> 16:40.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know it is. 16:41.045 --> 16:42.327 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, roll call. 16:42.347 --> 16:43.929 [SPEAKER_03]: Come on. 16:43.949 --> 16:44.670 [SPEAKER_02]: Get excited. 16:45.595 --> 16:47.291 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just one person missing. 16:47.351 --> 16:47.997 [SPEAKER_02]: Where are they? 16:48.058 --> 16:49.935 [SPEAKER_02]: Murdered town. 16:50.995 --> 16:53.258 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, where are the humans at home? 16:54.139 --> 16:58.525 [SPEAKER_00]: No one cares for them except this is this is awesome. 16:58.685 --> 17:02.911 [SPEAKER_00]: This is just yes, I'm having a blast with this. 17:03.051 --> 17:04.473 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the roll call. 17:04.994 --> 17:15.047 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the kind of like some decepticons kind of maybe waking up to, you know, like, hey, our leader is very on hinge and a real problem. 17:15.167 --> 17:17.350 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think I'm on the right side anymore. 17:17.751 --> 17:18.792 [SPEAKER_00]: This is just great. 17:18.772 --> 17:48.643 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... i'm having an absolute blast with this and uh... you make fun of the names of these characters but uh... no that's g i j i will be talking about about that we can we can actually technically do but here i'm gonna do a little trivia here we go um... p i'm gonna read the list and uh... i'm gonna occasionally insert a non-transformer nonsense work okay let me see if you can spot just stop me if i hit a nonsense work okay yep uh... 17:48.623 --> 17:49.704 [SPEAKER_01]: Ultra Magnus. 17:50.185 --> 17:50.785 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's real. 17:51.706 --> 17:52.147 [SPEAKER_01]: Real, yeah. 17:52.227 --> 17:54.730 [SPEAKER_01]: Just that may if you hear it when you don't think. 17:54.750 --> 17:54.930 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 17:55.150 --> 17:55.691 [SPEAKER_01]: Jazz. 17:56.131 --> 17:56.772 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's real. 17:56.792 --> 17:57.333 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that one. 17:57.853 --> 17:58.574 [SPEAKER_00]: Wheeljack. 17:59.074 --> 18:00.616 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, that's real. 18:00.636 --> 18:01.597 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the juicer. 18:02.218 --> 18:02.718 [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, it's fake. 18:02.778 --> 18:03.940 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't get to me on that. 18:04.781 --> 18:05.061 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 18:05.441 --> 18:07.504 [SPEAKER_01]: Do I grow up with these motherfuckers, bro? 18:08.365 --> 18:08.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Beachcomer. 18:08.985 --> 18:10.487 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you went to high school with these guys, right? 18:10.507 --> 18:11.088 [SPEAKER_01]: Beachcomer. 18:11.368 --> 18:11.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Real. 18:13.410 --> 18:13.991 [SPEAKER_01]: Thunderbolt. 18:15.012 --> 18:15.292 [SPEAKER_01]: Fake. 18:16.293 --> 18:17.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, good call. 18:17.154 --> 18:17.955 [SPEAKER_01]: Silverbolt. 18:18.863 --> 18:20.070 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're fucking around. 18:21.317 --> 18:22.343 [SPEAKER_01]: Silverbolt is real. 18:23.430 --> 18:23.852 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no. 18:23.872 --> 18:24.496 [SPEAKER_01]: Air raid. 18:25.301 --> 18:26.427 [SPEAKER_01]: Firefight. 18:27.217 --> 18:53.393 [SPEAKER_01]: fire fire fire fire fire fire fire flight ha ha ha you're fired tonight you're a fire starter uh... i'm to say i've given you the wabs of words out it is these and i let me be at look you look at their faces they all look this way these bookers look the same too all come on that race i did like the one joke and ten more having like one of them is shorter so he's kind of out of the battle that was fun 18:53.373 --> 18:56.756 [SPEAKER_02]: I will say I know I was kind of dismissive of this at the beginning. 18:56.776 --> 19:05.806 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing that I did like in this issue is all the stuff going out with Miles Mayhem, which you should have done with your gig into, would you hire a guy named Miles Mayhem? 19:05.946 --> 19:14.555 [SPEAKER_02]: But he'd be like, I'm going to put all these guys with acid, put on my, I assume you guys know better bask and then give like killer helicopter. 19:15.095 --> 19:15.596 [SPEAKER_00]: Very fun. 19:15.636 --> 19:18.879 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you guys have the mask music playing your head while you were reading that? 19:19.099 --> 19:19.940 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what that was. 19:19.960 --> 19:21.081 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're seeing it right now. 19:21.121 --> 19:21.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 19:21.942 --> 19:35.400 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to shout out the art, the last three pages, Dan Morris, Dan Morris art where the septicons are like smashing each other. 19:35.540 --> 19:36.120 [SPEAKER_01]: So good. 19:37.262 --> 19:37.823 [SPEAKER_01]: Very good. 19:38.303 --> 19:40.146 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of this story I don't quite understand. 19:40.166 --> 19:41.147 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's crazy. 19:41.167 --> 19:42.569 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, we're voting on a leader. 19:43.250 --> 19:46.234 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not Optimus Prime and he's not even running. 19:46.254 --> 19:47.275 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what? 19:47.255 --> 20:03.998 [SPEAKER_01]: He is famously the leader and they're like no, no, it's this other guy who looks like him and now it's this other person that doesn't like either of them And I'm like why am I invested in the bureaucracy if who's calling the transformer shots as much as I am here But I don't understand how their political system works 20:03.978 --> 20:09.469 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I also do have questions about what's going on with the humans, Carly, and is it Sam? 20:09.869 --> 20:11.312 [SPEAKER_02]: Is the bell human? 20:11.753 --> 20:13.597 [SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like they're going to die. 20:13.817 --> 20:19.388 [SPEAKER_01]: No, Sam, the human is named meat spikes. 20:19.368 --> 20:28.798 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Spike and Carly, who their whole plot line seems to be like, I'm sad about my dad and maybe we're gonna kiss, but that's probably gonna happen later, I guess. 20:29.479 --> 20:41.292 [SPEAKER_01]: No, the juxtaposition between the Transformers who are like killing each other or like voting in a new leader and then it cuts to their scene and they're like, Spike, you can't give up on your dreams. 20:41.352 --> 20:43.755 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's put our bags in on the couch. 20:43.735 --> 20:46.721 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, it's got bubbles, man. 20:46.741 --> 20:55.199 [SPEAKER_02]: The spike in Carly pages in the past since Robert Kirkman of two had a good overall, like the Dimetric opposite of the scux-eyed thing over and void rivals. 20:55.339 --> 20:58.365 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cut the scux-eyed is like, this is the most ridiculous thing was ever happened. 20:58.706 --> 21:03.195 [SPEAKER_02]: Spike and Carly is just like, we're just two humans doing human things. 21:03.175 --> 21:07.719 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a cutting to a 90s Folger's commercial in the middle of an action movie. 21:07.739 --> 21:12.844 [SPEAKER_01]: Where it's like, wait, these people are just a tangin' out and drinking coffee in the role of the Chris Farley's in there. 21:13.445 --> 21:14.766 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good be. 21:14.786 --> 21:14.886 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 21:14.906 --> 21:25.897 [SPEAKER_02]: Next up, Wonder Woman Black and Gold, 2026 special from DC Comics, written by Tom Kagan Mitch Dreads, are a list of long Steve Orlando and Jordi Belair, art by Mitch Dread. 21:25.937 --> 21:26.918 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's Gerad. 21:26.938 --> 21:27.518 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about that. 21:28.039 --> 21:32.423 [SPEAKER_02]: Karen S. Darbo Rossi Gifford and Polina Gattasho, 21:32.403 --> 21:39.250 [SPEAKER_02]: As you can probably into it, for the title, this is a series of stories about Wonder Woman that are told all through Black White Grey. 21:39.650 --> 21:43.054 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not of the title, but Black White Grey and Gold. 21:44.916 --> 21:54.485 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know, they've been doing black and white things for a while, now they've been doing Black White and Red, TMT does black white and green, so it's really shaking up the formula with a little bit of gold. 21:55.106 --> 21:55.506 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:56.347 --> 22:00.351 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you what, a book like this, the artists, the stories are 22:00.635 --> 22:04.399 [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed all of them, but man, the art shines so hard in this. 22:04.819 --> 22:07.361 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mitch Grads are in the first story. 22:07.642 --> 22:08.863 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, are you some soul? 22:09.223 --> 22:11.105 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the soul and gold is just so powerful. 22:11.125 --> 22:13.767 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the use of gold in this, it's so clean. 22:14.368 --> 22:16.630 [SPEAKER_01]: It's beautifully composed. 22:16.670 --> 22:18.552 [SPEAKER_01]: Everything is so nice. 22:19.312 --> 22:21.955 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I really like the Steve Orlando story. 22:22.315 --> 22:29.562 [SPEAKER_01]: The art's also excellent there, but that one was the one that felt the most different and out in its own, on its own island, so to speak. 22:30.537 --> 22:49.137 [SPEAKER_00]: yeah i agree just really impressive art takes on you know such a familiar characters which is great touching stories uh really love the kind of the second one had more of a kind of anime vibe to it but it was still so cool uh the truth one was great 22:49.117 --> 22:53.927 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just really kind of eye-popping, really impressive stuff. 22:54.549 --> 22:59.158 [SPEAKER_00]: The young Diana kind of peach thief was adorable. 22:59.599 --> 23:05.151 [SPEAKER_00]: This was just an impressive collection of stories and very art-forward, which I loved. 23:06.042 --> 23:07.024 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, great stuff. 23:07.245 --> 23:09.871 [SPEAKER_02]: Next up, we've got dungeons of doom. 23:09.951 --> 23:15.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Number, what does the do number one from Marvel written by Benjamin Percy and Philip Kenny Johnson? 23:15.504 --> 23:24.304 [SPEAKER_02]: Art by Carlos Magno, George Gianti, Justin Mason, Robert Gil and Carl story in the aftermath of one world under doom. 23:24.284 --> 23:30.317 [SPEAKER_02]: various factions are trying to take over a lot of area and in the process they end up underneath his castle. 23:30.958 --> 23:34.165 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're not going to believe this, the dungeons of doom. 23:34.185 --> 23:34.947 [SPEAKER_02]: What? 23:34.967 --> 23:39.637 [SPEAKER_02]: Where there might be treasure, there might be horrors, we're going to find out together. 23:39.677 --> 23:42.242 [SPEAKER_02]: Monsters, monsters. 23:42.222 --> 24:04.048 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought there was a really fascinating structure to this book, which could have been an anthology and a kind of is that, but instead it's interspersing and following these different teams as they all have their own missions and encounter these different horrors, these different terrible things in Doom's Dungeons. 24:04.348 --> 24:07.292 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just think it's a very cool way of doing it. 24:07.672 --> 24:10.255 [SPEAKER_02]: Very intrigued to follow this book going forward. 24:10.235 --> 24:14.059 [SPEAKER_01]: Plus, you reminded me of old war comics. 24:14.579 --> 24:20.025 [SPEAKER_01]: Where do you think you're seeing different soldiers, different groups fighting their way in a different area? 24:20.165 --> 24:27.452 [SPEAKER_01]: And to use the dungeon as this sort of repository of horrors, I thought was just a nice conceit. 24:27.893 --> 24:33.899 [SPEAKER_01]: Alexy said this in the live show, but Philip Kennedy Johnson was talking about this book and how excited he was for it. 24:33.939 --> 24:39.364 [SPEAKER_01]: And I really, I had forgotten that until I opened it, and man, I really thought it paid off. 24:39.833 --> 24:45.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and plus we got to mention the Doom Door on the cover, which is a badass cover. 24:45.686 --> 24:47.350 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great tone for all of you. 24:47.390 --> 24:51.620 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any issue with the fact that there is no Doom Door in the book? 24:51.640 --> 24:53.925 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're seeing the Doom Door, you know what I mean? 24:53.945 --> 24:55.489 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not to see it again in the book. 24:55.509 --> 24:58.095 [SPEAKER_00]: And sorry, Pete, this is the door to your bedroom. 24:58.379 --> 25:01.504 [SPEAKER_01]: But you called the Doom Room, I believe. 25:02.886 --> 25:28.183 [SPEAKER_00]: Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom 25:28.163 --> 25:32.824 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just kind of a classy move that Charles Xavier would do, you know what I mean? 25:33.648 --> 25:55.690 [SPEAKER_02]: I personally was not a huge fan of one world under dew, but I do feel like we can kind of leave it behind, but I think this is one of the best things that came out of that at a large part of that at least at the beginning, maybe this is reading too much into it, but it sort of strikes me as inspired by the whole Saddam's treasure palaces thing where they're after they had gotten Saddam out. 25:56.291 --> 25:57.512 [SPEAKER_02]: There were various rogue factions. 25:57.552 --> 26:03.418 [SPEAKER_02]: There was no real good plan for the US government to replace him or anything or any sort of governmental 26:03.398 --> 26:11.108 [SPEAKER_02]: and that you had these various factions scrambling to take control of his weapons, take control of the various treasure in his palaces, et cetera. 26:11.589 --> 26:19.620 [SPEAKER_02]: So it does feel like it has that real world analog particularly at the beginning there before you get into the cathooloo monsters and the magic and everything else. 26:20.221 --> 26:22.244 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a giant bat in one of those battles. 26:22.264 --> 26:22.784 [SPEAKER_01]: Just one. 26:22.804 --> 26:23.445 [SPEAKER_01]: Just one. 26:23.465 --> 26:24.006 [SPEAKER_01]: Just one of them. 26:23.986 --> 26:25.169 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it was very nice. 26:25.710 --> 26:26.111 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 26:26.131 --> 26:28.617 [SPEAKER_01]: See, who day used to ride a giant bat around? 26:29.318 --> 26:34.470 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, anyway, my point is that, like, I think that is a interesting real-world residence. 26:34.510 --> 26:40.264 [SPEAKER_02]: They potentially have given it there, and it gives it this grounding even when it adds up into fantastical circumstances. 26:40.424 --> 26:42.990 [SPEAKER_00]: But just to clarify, 26:44.320 --> 26:54.397 [SPEAKER_00]: You're wrong, the all world under Doom, so I line was great and maybe if you didn't enjoy it, you're not speaking for everybody on the podcast. 26:54.477 --> 27:04.273 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to, I was just gonna say that like, that's weird, I'm usually speaking with the voice of three, but in this case, I shall speak with the voice of one. 27:04.774 --> 27:05.335 [SPEAKER_02]: Good, thank you. 27:05.555 --> 27:11.104 [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to make sure we take note of the catch-all quote from Pete, just to clarify, you're wrong. 27:13.733 --> 27:16.557 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the ultimate clarification we've all been waiting for. 27:17.078 --> 27:17.178 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 27:17.519 --> 27:24.049 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, Pete going forward should just I speak, and I'll just be speaking for all three of us, and you guys can just kind of say that. 27:24.069 --> 27:25.111 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good idea. 27:25.131 --> 27:25.892 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good idea. 27:25.912 --> 27:26.012 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:26.032 --> 27:27.134 [SPEAKER_02]: You can represent to you. 27:27.475 --> 27:27.695 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:27.715 --> 27:30.239 [SPEAKER_00]: If you could just, you know, get all my bullet points. 27:30.259 --> 27:31.621 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have to reiterate them. 27:31.761 --> 27:31.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:31.882 --> 27:32.002 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 27:32.022 --> 27:32.623 [SPEAKER_00]: I could do that. 27:34.025 --> 27:34.947 [SPEAKER_00]: Great job. 27:35.007 --> 27:35.507 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great idea. 27:35.527 --> 27:36.729 [SPEAKER_02]: What's on the level behind you? 27:36.850 --> 27:37.370 [SPEAKER_02]: I got this. 27:37.891 --> 27:38.092 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 27:38.112 --> 27:40.956 [SPEAKER_01]: Pete, you review could have been an email. 27:41.324 --> 27:51.998 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, speaking on behalf of my clients, I would next like to review GI Joe number 17 from skybouted image comics written by Joshua Williamson, art by Tom Riley. 27:52.358 --> 27:53.900 [SPEAKER_02]: First of all, cool cover. 27:54.080 --> 27:57.585 [SPEAKER_02]: It's worth it for the art alone moving on. 27:57.625 --> 28:02.992 [SPEAKER_02]: These characters have ridiculous names like Heat Wave and Chachke and put them in. 28:03.012 --> 28:03.973 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not one. 28:03.953 --> 28:04.995 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hold on. 28:05.375 --> 28:07.739 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm speaking for Justin now. 28:07.839 --> 28:09.141 [SPEAKER_02]: You've already had your time. 28:09.161 --> 28:12.066 [SPEAKER_01]: You had your chance on the Alex mega phone. 28:12.326 --> 28:13.969 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and now moving over to me. 28:14.029 --> 28:19.498 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to talk more deeply about the art in the writing. 28:21.638 --> 28:23.922 [SPEAKER_02]: But actually I think this is really good. 28:24.323 --> 28:31.297 [SPEAKER_02]: I like recent before GI Joe has been on a roll with the tread docked war This is ridiculously fun Tom Riley's art is great. 28:31.778 --> 28:40.575 [SPEAKER_02]: There are some fantastic twists and turns throughout here I really like the Relationship or lack thereof between a cover commander and Duke. 28:40.615 --> 28:42.178 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the really great opposites 28:42.158 --> 28:56.056 [SPEAKER_02]: And I love the end of the issue which I had asked Joshua Williams about back when this before this started at a played very cagey on and I'm glad to know I was right about what happens in the final page. 28:56.517 --> 28:57.918 [SPEAKER_02]: You called Zartin? 28:58.639 --> 28:59.380 [SPEAKER_01]: I sure did. 28:59.440 --> 29:00.341 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 29:00.602 --> 29:01.123 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 29:01.143 --> 29:01.483 [SPEAKER_01]: How? 29:01.823 --> 29:03.846 [SPEAKER_01]: Who is Zartin? 29:04.754 --> 29:12.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that this book every issue ends with like, I didn't know it was me named random letters that make up a name. 29:12.967 --> 29:16.573 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be speaking for my client Pete here. 29:16.993 --> 29:19.056 [SPEAKER_02]: Zartan is a master of disguise. 29:19.157 --> 29:21.020 [SPEAKER_02]: He is a dread knock. 29:21.100 --> 29:27.049 [SPEAKER_02]: He is on a par with like Destro, particularly like I'd say like on sort of the same level. 29:27.299 --> 29:28.241 [SPEAKER_02]: In terms of G. I. J. 29:28.281 --> 29:29.424 [SPEAKER_02]: Villain and he's been missing here. 29:29.484 --> 29:36.981 [SPEAKER_02]: It's revealed that he has been in the guys of Hawk the guy who has been running the G. I. J. J. 29:37.001 --> 29:37.783 [SPEAKER_02]: This entire time. 29:37.823 --> 29:38.484 [SPEAKER_02]: So what does he want? 29:38.885 --> 29:39.988 [SPEAKER_02]: What does he need going forward? 29:40.730 --> 29:42.253 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's bad news. 29:42.571 --> 29:57.427 [SPEAKER_01]: I also really enjoy this book the I love the idea that the transformer that shows up here This is the best use of the shared universe so far Where the Joes have a transformer scout and they're like what the fuck? 29:57.507 --> 29:59.409 [SPEAKER_01]: You have one of those. 29:59.590 --> 30:00.851 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's such a good. 30:00.911 --> 30:05.396 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so good again like it feels like how I used to play with my toys Where I would mix them up. 30:05.416 --> 30:09.000 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be like, you know if you get the transformer You're gonna win this fight hands down 30:08.980 --> 30:10.903 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's what happens here. 30:11.884 --> 30:19.035 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they have the sound effect, the transformation sound effect in the art of the bomb as he's transforming very fun. 30:19.937 --> 30:20.197 [SPEAKER_01]: It is fun. 30:20.237 --> 30:20.698 [SPEAKER_01]: Really good. 30:20.798 --> 30:21.920 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought the fight was great. 30:22.020 --> 30:23.001 [SPEAKER_01]: I like all these characters. 30:23.062 --> 30:24.644 [SPEAKER_01]: This book seems like it's having the most fun. 30:25.065 --> 30:31.474 [SPEAKER_01]: So, Zartén, in no wonder he wears a disguise all the time because he's wearing a permanent mask under his disguises. 30:31.595 --> 30:31.935 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 30:32.656 --> 30:33.918 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's also, he's spawned. 30:34.299 --> 30:35.140 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what we're saying? 30:35.120 --> 30:45.838 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I will say before Justin pushed the picture all the way close and I could see his mouth and it was a little blurry. 30:45.998 --> 30:46.719 [SPEAKER_02]: Looks like spawn. 30:47.400 --> 30:48.141 [SPEAKER_02]: That's fun. 30:49.123 --> 30:53.911 [SPEAKER_02]: If you look at a real quick, you can kind of look like spawn, but he could look like spawn. 30:53.951 --> 30:55.193 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a master of disguise. 30:55.293 --> 30:57.617 [SPEAKER_02]: Like for stashio disc. 31:00.601 --> 31:04.711 [SPEAKER_01]: And please, anyone comment if you know what Alex is talking about. 31:04.731 --> 31:07.779 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's the fastest year to squeeze out of the GI Joe. 31:08.119 --> 31:11.588 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, jam and ice thick in my brain until I forget what Alex is saying. 31:13.192 --> 31:13.874 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that is great. 31:13.914 --> 31:15.057 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we should move on. 31:15.097 --> 31:15.919 [SPEAKER_00]: It is really great. 31:16.139 --> 31:18.525 [SPEAKER_00]: And I enjoy the nostalgia path of it. 31:18.893 --> 31:25.106 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Aquaman, number 13 from DC Comics written by Jeremy Adams, Art by Daniel Bayless. 31:25.587 --> 31:35.487 [SPEAKER_02]: While Aquaman is off of the DC KO tournament, Mara has stepped in instead to try to figure out what's going on under DC, what do you guys think about this one? 31:35.528 --> 31:38.674 [SPEAKER_02]: Lots of stuff happening with the old Mara. 31:39.194 --> 31:56.001 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this is, you got to be careful with the order that you read this comic because like, you know, we got the teas of the Hawkman Aquaman kind of versus Supergirl Lex Luther that happens in the DCKO number three. 31:56.021 --> 32:01.450 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if you depending on the order, you could get a upset there like, hey, what happened here? 32:01.470 --> 32:02.592 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll come, we don't get this fight. 32:03.213 --> 32:05.657 [SPEAKER_01]: How much money would you put down on a Hawkman? 32:07.122 --> 32:11.216 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was the most likely to lose a group. 32:11.958 --> 32:13.022 [SPEAKER_02]: Archbhand and Hawkman? 32:13.463 --> 32:13.764 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:13.985 --> 32:16.654 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean they mean cyberguns, Lex Luther, right? 32:16.894 --> 32:18.921 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Lex Luther and Supergirl. 32:19.441 --> 32:30.999 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know, you know, if Aquaman wasn't on like a different planet where you can make the ocean and the water and that kind of stuff Cuz you know at the start of the fight, it's not looking good when one guy's just spacing out. 32:31.079 --> 32:32.281 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, hey, you're right for the fight. 32:32.741 --> 32:33.122 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what? 32:33.482 --> 32:38.490 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, sorry, man So sorry to interrupt just to talk about this comic that we're talking about right now. 32:38.951 --> 32:39.532 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good idea. 32:39.552 --> 32:45.060 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Daniel bailis is Baby Mara was very cute 32:45.732 --> 33:05.441 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I like the, I say mirror story, I really like that feels like where the actual juice of this story outside of the chaos stuff is happening and that's an interesting story getting into some familial backstory for her so that's cool and the art just across the board I thought was really nice. 33:05.481 --> 33:07.304 [SPEAKER_01]: I love the very clean lines. 33:07.344 --> 33:12.752 [SPEAKER_01]: It's very like especially for something that is taking place under to see a famously blurry place. 33:12.833 --> 33:20.023 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's also doing like a lot of jumping around time-wise, so yeah, I got a little, kind of a little weird. 33:21.164 --> 33:35.784 [SPEAKER_02]: No, number one, from Marvel, written by Alan Ewing and Tom Walsh, art by one and were miras picking up off the cliffhanger from, I want to say, then I'm $250, has been imprisoned by Hela, who wants to become the Queen and Black spoiler alert. 33:35.864 --> 33:39.229 [SPEAKER_02]: There's an event coming called Queen and Black later this year. 33:39.209 --> 33:51.953 [SPEAKER_02]: I think she's going to do pretty well with this, but this is leading up to that showing how no gets out of his prison, the mission that he's heading on next, what you guys think. 33:52.878 --> 34:15.561 [SPEAKER_00]: well yeah this is great uh... i thought this was a really fun set up first issue null is uh... kind of uh... talking with hello there and uh... figurine stuff out so yeah uh... i thought this did a great job of like camping things up to get you excited for what's it come and uh... great art uh... great set up 34:16.132 --> 34:44.805 [SPEAKER_01]: I love alley alley viewing on this, and Tom World's like bringing some mythology like just a quick how do you say no to so people I say no okay when you say no like no Gallagher right that's why I guess that's why I just found out today yeah it's okay we all the beauty of the English language is that you can say anything however you want put your right yeah people you can gotta be like what the 34:45.629 --> 34:45.889 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 34:46.290 --> 34:46.770 [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay. 34:46.810 --> 34:47.812 [SPEAKER_01]: We're nailing it right now. 34:48.152 --> 34:49.354 [SPEAKER_02]: It's no. 34:49.374 --> 34:57.804 [SPEAKER_02]: Just on the mythology bed, I thought after a pretty dense beginning, a couple of pages that put me off a little bit. 34:57.824 --> 35:09.358 [SPEAKER_02]: It completely cleaned everything away and became much more sparse and interesting on, I want to say like page four or five or something like that, which was very purposeful. 35:09.338 --> 35:17.466 [SPEAKER_02]: I think pacing thing that went on there, but got everything you needed from the main thrust of the action, so I was very happy about that. 35:17.846 --> 35:23.251 [SPEAKER_02]: I was also happy that I feel like they went a far away to define what Noel actually is. 35:23.792 --> 35:29.017 [SPEAKER_02]: Because even having read the whole kick and black thing, I was like, what is he, what is his deal? 35:29.077 --> 35:30.458 [SPEAKER_02]: He smiles a lot. 35:30.799 --> 35:35.423 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but they very specifically dialed down and he's the god of the void. 35:35.443 --> 35:36.304 [SPEAKER_02]: So what does that mean? 35:36.324 --> 35:37.405 [SPEAKER_02]: And what are his powers? 35:37.688 --> 35:39.511 [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that part was great. 35:39.832 --> 35:40.733 [SPEAKER_02]: That worked really well. 35:41.094 --> 35:50.650 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially a character whose origin sort of straddles the very different venom and Thor mythologies that know a sort of sprung out of. 35:51.131 --> 35:58.223 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I really did appreciate the clarification and full origin at top, even though it was a bit dense to get to the story that was fun. 35:58.684 --> 36:02.751 [SPEAKER_01]: Bold move to be the guard of a dude wearing his symbiote 36:02.731 --> 36:03.452 [SPEAKER_01]: armor. 36:03.713 --> 36:04.835 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like risky. 36:05.076 --> 36:12.130 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to wear the clothes of the dude who you're keeping prisoner and sort of torturing because he's going to take those clothes back and probably be mad about it. 36:12.992 --> 36:18.503 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, enjoy this looking forward to the event for the Queen of Black seems fun. 36:18.844 --> 36:20.387 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great advice though, Justin. 36:20.507 --> 36:24.435 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't torment the person you're imprisoning. 36:24.922 --> 36:28.448 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I just said don't want to the same close because that person's going to win. 36:28.468 --> 36:31.113 [SPEAKER_02]: And just to clarify, there's like four more issues of this. 36:31.373 --> 36:33.757 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, this is going to keep going. 36:33.797 --> 36:39.507 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but I mean, Hela even says, like, I want to be the queen of like, this is the story. 36:39.748 --> 36:43.635 [SPEAKER_01]: She's very clear with, I'm going to be the queen of like, there's no hiding. 36:43.675 --> 36:45.057 [SPEAKER_01]: What's what's happening here. 36:45.577 --> 36:53.464 [SPEAKER_02]: Geiger, number 20 from Ghost Machine at Image Comics, written by Jeff Johns, Art by Gary Frank, and this issue, Geiger, are radioactive man. 36:53.524 --> 36:59.070 [SPEAKER_02]: It meets the northern or time travel in Geiger, who is usually trying to keep the civil war on track. 36:59.470 --> 37:08.158 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, maybe he's going to prevent the unknown war, and we find out a lot more about him after his appearance over in a red coat. 37:09.119 --> 37:09.760 [SPEAKER_02]: Which, you guys think? 37:10.000 --> 37:13.423 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was very fun, personally. 37:13.522 --> 37:14.444 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. 37:16.248 --> 37:31.381 [SPEAKER_00]: For me, like, I've been loving Geiger, but time travel stuff can get a little wonky for me, so I was a little nervous about this kind of happening in this, but I was very happy when I got to see the two headed wolf dog. 37:31.461 --> 37:31.902 [SPEAKER_00]: So, 37:31.882 --> 37:36.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how'd you feel about him being like, get out of here, you dog? 37:37.151 --> 37:37.993 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need you. 37:38.193 --> 37:39.255 [SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to him. 37:39.295 --> 37:44.865 [SPEAKER_02]: I was just going to ask about zigzag the zebra, now that he's a large zebra that you can ride. 37:44.905 --> 37:46.448 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about that, Pete? 37:46.698 --> 37:48.602 [SPEAKER_02]: zig-zag, it's great, fantastic. 37:48.662 --> 37:51.868 [SPEAKER_02]: Even when he's that large, when he's this large, just like a regular horse. 37:52.089 --> 37:54.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Alex, a little zebra's grew up to big zebra's. 37:54.894 --> 37:55.155 [SPEAKER_01]: Never. 37:55.556 --> 37:57.219 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you gotta clip them like bonsai. 37:57.780 --> 37:58.602 [SPEAKER_01]: What? 37:58.622 --> 37:59.524 [SPEAKER_01]: Put their skin? 38:00.846 --> 38:01.207 [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha. 38:01.227 --> 38:01.948 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 38:01.968 --> 38:04.053 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I did with my kids to keep them small. 38:04.313 --> 38:06.297 [SPEAKER_01]: They are tiny and mad. 38:07.059 --> 38:08.301 [SPEAKER_02]: Bursal and mad. 38:09.783 --> 38:24.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Great, move it on to Supergirl Number 9 from DC Comics with my Sophie Cavalle art by Jo Canonez in this issue, Supergirl and a friend's go to a party and get a little crypton girl wasted if you don't want to be my. 38:24.785 --> 38:31.495 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, this book that a lot of folks in our Discord have been talking about and asking why we're not reviewing it, so I figured I'd throw it into that. 38:31.515 --> 38:32.497 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a stack here. 38:32.597 --> 38:34.920 [SPEAKER_02]: You listen to the people, that's nice. 38:34.940 --> 38:37.444 [SPEAKER_02]: I do, I'm not like you, Pete, who is constantly like, 38:37.424 --> 38:38.766 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't listen to the people. 38:39.007 --> 38:40.750 [SPEAKER_02]: I do listen to the people. 38:40.770 --> 38:40.930 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow. 38:40.950 --> 38:54.133 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think this book is a blatant tie-in to the Super Romovie because she has to party more This is the party set up to Maybe the Super Romovie probably not, but maybe what did you guys think about this issue? 38:54.738 --> 38:56.040 [SPEAKER_01]: I really like this book. 38:56.280 --> 38:59.925 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the story in R is just really works together. 38:59.965 --> 39:02.087 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I like Joe Kanonas' work. 39:02.768 --> 39:07.074 [SPEAKER_01]: So really great to see it here in the center of a superhero story. 39:07.534 --> 39:15.304 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think on page two, one of the characters is wearing a Serpent's jacket straight out of Riverdale. 39:16.346 --> 39:17.107 [SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to that. 39:17.607 --> 39:21.272 [SPEAKER_01]: That helps inform the vibe of what's happening in this story. 39:21.552 --> 39:22.213 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought throughout. 39:22.733 --> 39:24.696 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, shots to Riverdale, for sure. 39:24.816 --> 39:29.723 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the art is such a fresh breath of air that is really just so nice. 39:31.585 --> 39:35.851 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes with DC books, you get used to it kind of the similar art all the time. 39:35.871 --> 39:38.795 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was really refreshing to get this in this book. 39:40.057 --> 39:42.801 [SPEAKER_02]: Luna, well, why is this not going for it? 39:42.781 --> 39:43.342 [SPEAKER_02]: There we go. 39:43.402 --> 39:51.932 [SPEAKER_02]: Luna Snow, world tour number one from Marvel written by Greg Pock, art by Aril and Indito and Takeshi Mia Zawa. 39:51.952 --> 39:58.881 [SPEAKER_02]: After the end of one world under Doom, Luna Snow is on the outs with the world because she backed Doom, oops. 39:58.901 --> 40:08.653 [SPEAKER_02]: As trying to go on a world tour, she runs into a new villain who has the ability to control crowds and make them fall in love with their 40:08.633 --> 40:12.637 [SPEAKER_02]: leading to a conflict between Lutestow and her allies and the Stubbillin. 40:13.338 --> 40:16.661 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought this also was a lot of fun. 40:16.761 --> 40:19.224 [SPEAKER_02]: I know I just expressed what I thought about one world under doom. 40:19.705 --> 40:22.067 [SPEAKER_02]: But if it led to this, this is a very fun issue. 40:22.227 --> 40:28.914 [SPEAKER_02]: In particular, without feeling derivative, if you're a big fan of K-pop, T-bit hunters, this feels right in the mood there. 40:28.954 --> 40:31.697 [SPEAKER_02]: You can pick this right up there and run with it. 40:31.757 --> 40:33.679 [SPEAKER_02]: It's similarly musically inflected. 40:33.659 --> 40:38.807 [SPEAKER_02]: There's bad guys, there's good guys, bad managers, good managers, I had a fun time reading this book. 40:39.188 --> 40:42.153 [SPEAKER_01]: And Luna Snow character from Marvel Rivals, I believe, as well, right? 40:43.896 --> 40:50.166 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think she was originally from Marvel Rivals, but she became popularized for sure by Marvel Rivals. 40:50.433 --> 40:52.256 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think she's from Frozen. 40:52.356 --> 40:53.778 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, nice. 40:53.878 --> 40:54.118 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope. 40:54.659 --> 40:58.645 [SPEAKER_01]: The way this let's a character be wrong. 40:59.426 --> 41:00.808 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought was really good. 41:00.848 --> 41:06.636 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Greg Park writes a story that just feels fresh a character who is like, yeah, I backed doom. 41:07.277 --> 41:09.640 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you now now everyone hates me? 41:09.620 --> 41:13.985 [SPEAKER_01]: but I learned a lesson like it's a kind of storytelling that you don't see in comics. 41:14.045 --> 41:17.169 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a gray area for a lot of the characters in this. 41:17.209 --> 41:23.296 [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it was like just a nice story about coping with the choices you make and moving forward despite them. 41:24.718 --> 41:27.321 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree Greg Pock is an amazing writer. 41:28.702 --> 41:30.625 [SPEAKER_00]: This stuff isn't really my jam. 41:30.705 --> 41:39.475 [SPEAKER_00]: It's more of a kind of like a dazzler type story, which is more of a zelbin kind of jam, but art was great. 41:40.231 --> 41:43.297 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, music sometimes is tough in comics, you know? 41:43.677 --> 41:47.424 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, sometimes they can kind of pull you out of a story. 41:47.905 --> 41:48.647 [SPEAKER_00]: And life, right? 41:50.230 --> 41:55.880 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like, are you always telling those kids next door to turn down their rapity rap music? 41:56.080 --> 41:57.784 [SPEAKER_02]: I believe it is the phrase you say. 41:57.804 --> 41:59.607 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's the opposite of what I'm saying. 41:59.806 --> 42:04.216 [SPEAKER_01]: to be like, hey kids, turn up your rapidly. 42:05.239 --> 42:05.800 [SPEAKER_02]: That is fair. 42:05.920 --> 42:06.442 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. 42:06.462 --> 42:15.503 [SPEAKER_02]: 100% beneath the trees, nobody sees right of spring number five from IDW by Patrick Corvette. 42:15.483 --> 42:33.154 [SPEAKER_02]: big stuff it goes down in a absolutely wild way as Samantha strong our serial killer bear is taking her duck friend to the woods and I almost hasn't had to say anything about this issue because 42:34.383 --> 42:41.673 [SPEAKER_02]: I do W in their solicit were like the most surprising ending of the year and I was like, yeah, right, prove it to me. 42:41.793 --> 42:43.816 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the end of the issue I was like, it was. 42:45.678 --> 42:48.962 [SPEAKER_02]: It just goes in some absolutely bonkers directions here. 42:49.023 --> 42:56.172 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it really also starts to bring together a lot of the themes and ideas that Patrick has been dealing with. 42:56.152 --> 43:06.184 [SPEAKER_02]: over the course of the series, which has been sort of like slow playing or letting run under the surface in a different way in this series than you tend to the previous one. 43:06.204 --> 43:08.907 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a electric storytelling, I feel like. 43:09.107 --> 43:20.180 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially for a book that feels like it's going to be meticulous, slow, boiling story about a serial killer trying to get away in the small moments. 43:20.861 --> 43:25.787 [SPEAKER_01]: This issue is not afraid of the big moments. 43:25.767 --> 43:48.231 [SPEAKER_01]: the big episodes of like breaking bad where so much shit happens and you're like how could they possibly move in any direction you can't go back I don't know how you go forward and this this story does that so i mean we glow about this book all of all three of us i think find a map so don't so i think just to keep going this 43:48.211 --> 43:53.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Please, please read this book, but you have to read it from the beginning. 43:53.042 --> 43:57.993 [SPEAKER_01]: Each issue pushes the story forward in a way that you must experience. 44:02.664 --> 44:04.047 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not my cup of tea. 44:04.107 --> 44:05.410 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to... 44:06.757 --> 44:10.780 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously you guys love this and I'm happy for you to find something that you enjoy. 44:10.800 --> 44:19.248 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's like they, uh, you know, we're like, hey, remember the child of Barenstein Bears story that you love so much. 44:19.328 --> 44:20.169 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, sure. 44:20.569 --> 44:21.730 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're gonna ruin it. 44:21.810 --> 44:23.071 [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna ruin your job. 44:23.091 --> 44:25.813 [SPEAKER_01]: You, this ruins the Barenstein Bears, yes, I'm playing. 44:26.114 --> 44:29.056 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we look at the Barenstein Bears and the Barenstein Bears. 44:29.136 --> 44:29.557 [SPEAKER_01]: How come? 44:29.577 --> 44:30.517 [SPEAKER_02]: What are you reading? 44:30.938 --> 44:32.759 [SPEAKER_02]: They're fucked up those stories. 44:33.280 --> 44:33.720 [SPEAKER_02]: Agreed. 44:33.760 --> 44:35.802 [SPEAKER_02]: That I recall. 44:35.782 --> 44:38.507 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you ever read the Bernstein bears in the new baby? 44:38.527 --> 44:40.030 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll throw that one out of you. 44:40.211 --> 44:41.834 [SPEAKER_02]: Pete, do you know what happens with that? 44:42.275 --> 44:43.217 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't remember that one. 44:43.778 --> 44:45.261 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, I thought they lived in a tree. 44:45.702 --> 44:46.563 [SPEAKER_02]: They live in a tree. 44:46.624 --> 44:51.894 [SPEAKER_02]: Father takes brother who is very upset about a new baby coming. 44:52.595 --> 44:54.720 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, that one, and she'll come out into the woods. 44:54.780 --> 44:55.742 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get a tree. 44:55.762 --> 44:56.423 [SPEAKER_00]: He's fun, then. 44:56.403 --> 45:05.886 [SPEAKER_02]: the story time and then they take the crib and when they come back mother bear has had a baby on her own in the tree while they've been gone. 45:07.089 --> 45:08.072 [SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty messed up. 45:08.393 --> 45:08.994 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fucked up. 45:09.014 --> 45:12.623 [SPEAKER_01]: But did you reach the read the balancing bears hide a corpse? 45:13.767 --> 45:37.885 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a highly inattree people and put them in pancance and then there was the very steam bearers cut up a dock and put it in big cads, yeah, you know, it's funny we haven't brought that up in relation to this project got to be a big inspiration, but I want to investigate a little harder here because like is it the violence that gets you or is it the fact that's it's told in from a of our perspective that is like a children's book. 45:37.865 --> 45:59.485 [SPEAKER_00]: yeah the juxtaposition of those things it's a lot of it it's also the celebration of the violence that's that's heartbreaking I don't think it's a celebration of violence you also you love books that celebrate violence so what where are you in this that doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense I don't make sure it's cuter how would you feel about that oh man I don't think I'd like it at all 45:59.465 --> 46:00.406 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. 46:00.967 --> 46:02.949 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't think the Punisher's QP? 46:03.210 --> 46:05.372 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's pretty cute. 46:05.392 --> 46:06.234 [SPEAKER_01]: Strong back to this. 46:06.294 --> 46:07.635 [SPEAKER_02]: You're at a bar, right? 46:07.715 --> 46:08.777 [SPEAKER_02]: You look across the bar. 46:08.837 --> 46:09.718 [SPEAKER_02]: Punisher's right there. 46:10.259 --> 46:12.782 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's blowing kisses at you. 46:13.142 --> 46:14.103 [SPEAKER_00]: In his little shirt. 46:14.664 --> 46:16.787 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man. 46:16.807 --> 46:17.848 [SPEAKER_01]: He's wearing his little shirt. 46:18.369 --> 46:19.711 [SPEAKER_00]: Yark is fantastic. 46:22.734 --> 46:25.658 [SPEAKER_02]: Can I buy that lapage a drink down there? 46:27.494 --> 46:28.796 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, anyway, let's move on. 46:28.836 --> 46:30.378 [SPEAKER_02]: Talk about Miter Arcada No. 46:30.398 --> 46:33.102 [SPEAKER_02]: 3 to the boobs studios by Jeff LeMier. 46:33.262 --> 46:36.967 [SPEAKER_02]: In this issue, our main character is to its more tarot stuff. 46:36.987 --> 46:38.990 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what happens. 46:40.231 --> 46:40.432 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 46:40.492 --> 46:45.719 [SPEAKER_00]: So one of those classic creepy taro readings, you know, you get in comics and movies. 46:45.839 --> 46:49.224 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a fun trope that I think works really well here. 46:49.244 --> 46:53.890 [SPEAKER_00]: I just feel, I love how Jeff LeMier, 46:54.308 --> 47:07.128 [SPEAKER_00]: This story is, I know it's a weird thing to say, but just like being in a Jeff Lomere book and the world and the vibe, it's just, it's this fun kind of creepy, not sure what's going on. 47:07.208 --> 47:10.653 [SPEAKER_00]: You can kind of feel the sweat sometimes on the panels. 47:11.314 --> 47:14.880 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a cool, interesting world that he creates. 47:15.601 --> 47:21.590 [SPEAKER_00]: And what's nice is when you're familiar with your work, his work, it's just kind of a fun world to be. 47:21.610 --> 47:22.712 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you feel, 47:22.692 --> 47:43.705 [SPEAKER_01]: well taken care of and uh it's uh it's a it's cool this book this issue was the most reminiscent of sweet tooth if you're a fan of that book i think um this series feels a bit different than that but this issue specifically felt like there were some like uh schemes going on there were some surprising 47:43.685 --> 47:52.915 [SPEAKER_01]: Dips into the super natural here like so it really brought me back to reading some of those issues of sweet tooth Especially later in the series. 47:53.195 --> 47:54.016 [SPEAKER_01]: I do like this book. 47:54.116 --> 48:00.704 [SPEAKER_01]: It does feel like it is Settling into a slower pace, but actually think a lot happens here. 48:00.844 --> 48:03.266 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels that way But I think there are a lot of things happening. 48:03.286 --> 48:06.570 [SPEAKER_01]: I really like the the back half of the this issue in particular 48:06.837 --> 48:09.701 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you're getting to the heart of how I'm feeling about it. 48:09.741 --> 48:11.464 [SPEAKER_02]: I keep going back and forth on it. 48:11.604 --> 48:23.583 [SPEAKER_02]: I like it every issue, but sometimes I have a little bit of a hard time getting ahead to a lot of what the arc of an individual issue is versus over the course of many issues. 48:23.603 --> 48:26.467 [SPEAKER_02]: And it keeps feeling like, okay, we're ramping up to something. 48:26.507 --> 48:28.570 [SPEAKER_02]: And now we've hit a plateau for several issues. 48:28.610 --> 48:29.892 [SPEAKER_02]: And now we're ramping up to something. 48:30.273 --> 48:33.638 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe that's just the rhythm of the book, but 48:33.618 --> 48:34.180 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 48:34.761 --> 48:37.650 [SPEAKER_02]: It's sometimes not quite enough of a T.P. 48:37.991 --> 48:43.488 [SPEAKER_02]: if you introduce it to my term, on an individual basis for me to get into. 48:43.608 --> 48:45.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Alex, the rhythm is going to get you. 48:46.460 --> 48:48.202 [SPEAKER_02]: I got to watch out for that. 48:48.222 --> 48:59.757 [SPEAKER_02]: Side dimensional rivals, number one, for Marvel by Peach Mocha, Stance of Kai, and I've been Kuello's speaking Marvel rivals, yet another Marvel rivals inspired book, boy, that game seems to be doing well. 48:59.918 --> 49:10.071 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess here we are getting a Peach Mocha riff on Siloc, who gets recruited by a Peach Mocha riff on Galacta. 49:10.051 --> 49:30.945 [SPEAKER_02]: uh we got beast in here and the whole idea is she gets sent looking for an infinity stone through different dimensions and each time she adds up at a different dimension it is a new artist who is taking on the character in this case stance guy and i but quello in future issues will be other 49:30.925 --> 49:32.667 [SPEAKER_02]: artist, I should have read the doubt. 49:32.687 --> 49:33.668 [SPEAKER_02]: I know a side of repeat. 49:33.688 --> 49:35.990 [SPEAKER_02]: She's going to be on it and some of you folks as well. 49:36.631 --> 49:38.273 [SPEAKER_02]: Pete, you seem to be a big fan of this. 49:38.413 --> 49:42.537 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing it might be because you like peach mocha and stance a guy and hate. 49:42.677 --> 49:44.599 [SPEAKER_00]: I've been koelow, but you take it away from here. 49:44.859 --> 49:45.660 [SPEAKER_00]: How dare you? 49:45.780 --> 49:47.802 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love all the artists on this book. 49:47.822 --> 49:50.045 [SPEAKER_00]: This is such a great vibe. 49:50.085 --> 49:52.767 [SPEAKER_00]: The look of this is just so fantastic. 49:53.788 --> 49:56.491 [SPEAKER_00]: Sila, one of my favorite characters. 49:56.571 --> 49:57.372 [SPEAKER_00]: So, 49:57.352 --> 50:05.200 [SPEAKER_00]: such a fun use of this and it's also I love the just a position of kind of a galactic process, just in position, my bad. 50:05.941 --> 50:15.370 [SPEAKER_00]: The just in position of galactic of being like, we need these stones and satellite being like, oh, like you need a bubble and I think that says so much. 50:16.211 --> 50:21.857 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, just really impressive fun story, cool venture, 50:21.837 --> 50:31.036 [SPEAKER_00]: amazing visuals and also we got not only do get peach from all co, but then you get this kind of yeah, I just want to say that it's really nice. 50:31.096 --> 50:32.338 [SPEAKER_01]: It's dance to highs in this. 50:32.378 --> 50:36.166 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if anyone else noticed is artwork in the back half of this. 50:36.447 --> 50:38.591 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was really cool. 50:38.611 --> 50:39.593 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you saying people? 50:39.573 --> 50:58.020 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... so i was trying to build towards this throne in you know usagio jimbo uh... look to it were all the time always trying to get us to read and review usagio jimbo who is my absolute favorite rabbit ronan and it's just a bummer that some other folks on the podcast specifically members of the podcast to 50:59.283 --> 51:01.386 [SPEAKER_02]: virionly and disgustingly hate. 51:01.406 --> 51:06.854 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been Quello for no particular reason that I could got us and how don't you want to get it, Pete. 51:06.874 --> 51:07.235 [SPEAKER_01]: He's funny. 51:07.295 --> 51:09.999 [SPEAKER_01]: He's my sixth favorite rabbit Ronan. 51:11.962 --> 51:14.366 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's so you got you should do our power, right? 51:14.386 --> 51:16.068 [SPEAKER_00]: He's in the rabbit out in the right. 51:16.088 --> 51:17.190 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you should do it. 51:17.828 --> 51:21.954 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to be fun to hear five others would be impressive. 51:21.974 --> 51:23.736 [SPEAKER_00]: I have 15 of these just right now. 51:23.756 --> 51:26.400 [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, to be clear, I've been Quello is great as well. 51:26.500 --> 51:27.922 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also really enjoyed this. 51:27.962 --> 51:28.824 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought the art was great. 51:28.844 --> 51:30.406 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought the story was fun. 51:30.586 --> 51:31.507 [SPEAKER_02]: It is a fun riff. 51:31.668 --> 51:40.240 [SPEAKER_02]: It is kind of crazy to me how on Marvel on the Marvel rivals beat Marvel comics is right now. 51:40.300 --> 51:43.144 [SPEAKER_02]: And I get it because it's a huge game. 51:43.124 --> 52:00.506 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it seems like it's just like growing every week to become half of the books that we're reading Well, but it's crazy how much we're like Marvel make your comics tie into the movies and they're like we don't do that But they're tying so much into rivals which is like that must be working. 52:00.587 --> 52:04.812 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's in I think it's cool and honestly like 52:04.792 --> 52:20.246 [SPEAKER_01]: I like this story more than I like some of the ultimate X-Men stuff because it feels more contained and more like Direct from a storytelling perspective, so not to pit These books against each other, but I really like this. 52:20.387 --> 52:21.990 [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely want to pick up the next one. 52:22.050 --> 52:24.235 [SPEAKER_01]: I also appreciate the format of 52:24.215 --> 52:28.444 [SPEAKER_01]: the end, the bit of anthology that's in here, despite the fact that the stories do connect. 52:29.125 --> 52:36.581 [SPEAKER_01]: I do have the other artists coming, the Sad Ribbish, the Tasha Boostos, Mike Del Mundo Jim, my food, a virtual raymos. 52:36.601 --> 52:39.287 [SPEAKER_01]: Nice, great lineup, should be fun. 52:39.385 --> 52:42.069 [SPEAKER_02]: Teenage Reed Ninja Turtles number 14 from I.D.W. 52:42.109 --> 52:51.301 [SPEAKER_02]: Written by Gene Lewin Yang, Art by Freddie E. Williams, the second last issue was revealed that the new villain Ujigami is actually Splinter, who is back alive. 52:51.861 --> 52:52.542 [SPEAKER_02]: What? 52:52.562 --> 52:53.844 [SPEAKER_02]: Splinter's alive? 52:54.585 --> 52:54.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Splinter? 52:55.005 --> 53:01.274 [SPEAKER_02]: Not only that, Pete, Splinter is a villain and the turtles are slowly figuring that out. 53:01.494 --> 53:05.820 [SPEAKER_02]: This issue is the battle him as well as a giant bear. 53:05.920 --> 53:07.722 [SPEAKER_02]: I believe who has been sent to the trial. 53:08.562 --> 53:09.343 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 53:09.423 --> 53:10.224 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about that? 53:10.284 --> 53:14.449 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't like the giant bearer who kills people in beneath the trees. 53:14.489 --> 53:16.812 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you like the giant bearer who kills people in this issue? 53:17.272 --> 53:17.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, do. 53:17.653 --> 53:20.616 [SPEAKER_00]: But he completely different bears completely different set up here. 53:20.676 --> 53:24.040 [SPEAKER_00]: One of them's not trying to murder my childhood. 53:24.841 --> 53:25.322 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 53:25.342 --> 53:28.406 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you want me to make you a shirt that says different bears same day? 53:28.426 --> 53:29.667 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 53:30.047 --> 53:30.548 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't. 53:30.929 --> 53:37.236 [SPEAKER_00]: I would like you to make something about murdering 53:38.684 --> 53:42.312 [SPEAKER_01]: Just declare, just so we gotta fly your wrong. 53:42.432 --> 53:44.597 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's what it was, just declare by your wrong. 53:44.657 --> 53:44.877 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 53:45.378 --> 53:47.363 [SPEAKER_00]: But first off, let's back up the truck. 53:47.403 --> 53:48.124 [SPEAKER_00]: Cool cover. 53:49.147 --> 53:50.770 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is just, 53:51.509 --> 53:52.711 [SPEAKER_00]: fun times, man. 53:52.871 --> 53:55.816 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we get these kind of super ninja. 53:56.316 --> 54:10.358 [SPEAKER_00]: Super ninja great stuff here, a Leo figure and something out, then boom splinter is back and you're so excited, but then you're like, oh, no, this is going to be more heartbreaking than we thought. 54:10.438 --> 54:13.743 [SPEAKER_00]: So, nervously excited for what's to come. 54:15.285 --> 54:20.453 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like the turtles can really connect with this 54:21.682 --> 54:29.314 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, they can connect with Splinter, but this villain is gonna be a tough pig to roast if you know what I'm saying. 54:31.958 --> 54:40.010 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that phrase, but yeah, this is, I mean, there's a lot going on in this title now and the rock steady B-bop of it all. 54:40.190 --> 54:41.672 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was hysterical. 54:42.313 --> 54:44.356 [SPEAKER_00]: They had some great lines in there. 54:44.737 --> 54:46.139 [SPEAKER_00]: Some hilarious lines. 54:46.219 --> 54:48.162 [SPEAKER_00]: I laughed out a lot of a couple times. 54:48.496 --> 54:49.978 [SPEAKER_00]: How will you show you doing? 54:50.479 --> 54:52.582 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of pun, it's the toydles. 54:52.963 --> 54:55.767 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very, a lot of celebrating that I'm doing. 54:55.787 --> 55:00.334 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just to jump off of what you're saying, Justin, this, I like this team. 55:00.355 --> 55:02.358 [SPEAKER_02]: This is you felt very crowded to be. 55:02.598 --> 55:11.472 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, from both from the art perspective and the writer perspective, like you said, there's a lot going on, but it's also a lot packed into every page. 55:12.213 --> 55:13.295 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know. 55:13.315 --> 55:14.757 [SPEAKER_02]: I miss, 55:14.737 --> 55:17.260 [SPEAKER_02]: the sparseness of the previous run. 55:17.280 --> 55:24.647 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they weren't this packed necessarily in the last issue because I thought that moved very well, but I wasn't quite sure about this one. 55:26.889 --> 55:27.390 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, Pete. 55:28.110 --> 55:29.972 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the black road. 55:30.012 --> 55:32.014 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a pregnant pause there. 55:32.054 --> 55:41.824 [SPEAKER_02]: Babs, the black roads south, number one from the white comics, run by Garth 55:41.804 --> 56:07.120 [SPEAKER_02]: parody fantasy series about a red sonia type who encounters Toxic masculinity a little white nationalism was very of the moment But through the lens of these fantasy troops and I thought very funny, but also very profane and gross in the classic Garth and his matter here We've kind of done away with a lot of the satire 56:07.100 --> 56:34.407 [SPEAKER_02]: like the more pointed satire elements and instead just have a mashup of fantasy world and modern world as I was about to say, Sonya Babs and her friend Izzy and coming into some money have a wild debauchers night out including a full-out musical number making fun of red Sonya and then when they wake up at the boarding they have to track down their buddy that they accidentally gave away 56:34.387 --> 56:35.749 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know. 56:35.769 --> 56:48.668 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was still funny and I had a fun time reading this because it's ridiculous and over the top, but I was missing a little bit of that of the moment cultural commentary of the first series. 56:50.712 --> 56:51.152 [SPEAKER_01]: That's funny. 56:51.493 --> 56:53.496 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't miss that. 56:53.676 --> 56:59.685 [SPEAKER_01]: I liked that this story focused more on them just doing stuff and them having a quest. 57:00.239 --> 57:02.963 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like a really clean entrance to the story. 57:03.003 --> 57:08.771 [SPEAKER_01]: The scene of them just fucking gremlins or something. 57:08.791 --> 57:10.273 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was knob cobblins. 57:10.834 --> 57:12.696 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, that tracks. 57:13.898 --> 57:18.244 [SPEAKER_01]: They take home a couple of lobbies, and they are just getting it done. 57:19.405 --> 57:26.615 [SPEAKER_01]: And the way the store, the way the adventure is cast on, they put all their money basically invested it in a quest. 57:27.136 --> 57:30.060 [SPEAKER_01]: And now they have to go make sure the quest pays off. 57:30.040 --> 57:32.966 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think we're going to get some cultural commentary. 57:32.986 --> 57:34.489 [SPEAKER_01]: We just haven't quite got it yet. 57:34.529 --> 57:39.258 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels very like gambling, culture, polymarkens could be the take. 57:39.278 --> 57:43.707 [SPEAKER_01]: It just has them and fully the trap has them and sprung yet. 57:44.489 --> 57:45.611 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 57:45.671 --> 57:45.771 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 57:46.392 --> 58:02.275 [SPEAKER_00]: fucking nobbers yeah i i think this is a blast and nobbers dude yeah fucking nobbers guy but i i think that this is uh yeah i i was and funded the sword the talking sword as it's like cutting off of people's ads being like 58:02.255 --> 58:03.978 [SPEAKER_00]: had a little things to say each time. 58:04.118 --> 58:08.125 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry, and all that was great, a total blast. 58:08.145 --> 58:14.656 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, just kind of the classic fun of like we got drunk and wake up the next day, we're all the money go kind of fun. 58:14.736 --> 58:19.083 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I thought the art and storytelling was a blast. 58:19.163 --> 58:21.327 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I enjoyed this. 58:21.307 --> 58:47.972 [SPEAKER_02]: The ultimate, it's number 20 from Marvel, written by Dennis Camp, art by Phil Nodo, in this issue, picking up off the cliffhanger of the last issue, we meet the new vision of the ultimate universe, find out his origin, he has, in fact, a character we know and set up as an opposite of Nick Fury here as they battled throughout the ages, leading to a big moment at a big confrontation at the end of the issue. 58:47.952 --> 58:53.136 [SPEAKER_02]: Just did I know you were a big fan of this one, so why is that? 58:53.757 --> 58:55.680 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just big storytelling. 58:55.980 --> 59:04.453 [SPEAKER_01]: We get the whole, like you said, this whole great origin of the vision, the triple agent that Janavan Dine was. 59:04.473 --> 59:06.596 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a nice reveal last issue. 59:06.797 --> 59:09.320 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really see much of her, which I was surprised about. 59:09.921 --> 59:13.046 [SPEAKER_01]: But I liked all of the linking up the ultimate network. 59:13.246 --> 59:19.195 [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like them pushing back, the Detroit Kaiju that is created in here. 59:19.235 --> 59:20.457 [SPEAKER_01]: That was awesome. 59:20.437 --> 59:27.172 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just a real rallying point for this big fight that's been happening in the ultimate universe So here for it. 59:27.573 --> 59:29.317 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're still camping and it's what you're saying. 59:29.738 --> 59:30.680 [SPEAKER_00]: It's still loving the camp. 59:30.920 --> 59:31.722 [SPEAKER_00]: I remain at camp. 59:31.962 --> 59:34.969 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone else wants to leave and gonna hike and go canoeing. 59:35.009 --> 59:38.597 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying stay at camp camp is fun 59:38.712 --> 59:54.932 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would I would get on a canoe and get away from vision because that dude is creepy as fuck and I don't trust it Especially if he's killed Nick Fury 14 times, you know, I mean, that's uh, that seems like a good thing Yes, sure is a bad guy in this universe 59:54.912 --> 59:59.317 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but, you know, I'm not used to that, you know? 59:59.397 --> 01:00:01.480 [SPEAKER_00]: So, um, okay. 01:00:01.500 --> 01:00:02.041 [SPEAKER_00]: This is great. 01:00:02.061 --> 01:00:03.382 [SPEAKER_02]: The art is great. 01:00:03.422 --> 01:00:06.066 [SPEAKER_02]: Everything that you mentioned, Justin, is great. 01:00:06.426 --> 01:00:17.459 [SPEAKER_02]: And just to expand on that like rallying, cry thing, I think that's something that Dennis Cap is doing so well, particularly in the ultimates from Iron Lads, a downspent onward. 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:21.024 [SPEAKER_02]: It just feels, it gets your blood pumping. 01:00:21.244 --> 01:00:23.687 [SPEAKER_02]: When you breathe that, and 01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:42.283 [SPEAKER_02]: it's not that to keep hitting on the same point, but like it's not directly analogous to things that are happening outside or window right now, but when there is a lot of action happening in the outside world, there are a lot of marches, there are a lot of protests, it feels like this taps into that same sort of energy of 01:00:42.263 --> 01:00:55.535 [SPEAKER_02]: rise up against a fascist government that I know read a comic is not a substitute for that necessarily, but that does feel like the thing that they are riffing on here and it does make it feel very present. 01:00:55.976 --> 01:00:59.665 [SPEAKER_01]: Any place you can get that feeling in this day and age is nice. 01:01:00.117 --> 01:01:05.922 [SPEAKER_02]: Alice forever after number one for Boom Studios written by Dan Panosian, art by Dan Panosian and Georgia Speletto. 01:01:05.942 --> 01:01:18.954 [SPEAKER_02]: There's the third series riffing on Alice in Wonderland, the Dan Panosian does done, paralleling action inside Wonderland with things happening in London to the real Alice. 01:01:19.895 --> 01:01:25.200 [SPEAKER_02]: We, if I remember correctly, love the first series were okay with the second series. 01:01:25.740 --> 01:01:30.124 [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't exactly love but respected the lost boy, which was sort of like 01:01:30.104 --> 01:01:44.417 [SPEAKER_02]: And now here we are at the fourth sort of riff series, and the big change here is that Wonderland, Tron Aire's style is coming to the real world. 01:01:45.478 --> 01:01:48.681 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to change potentially everything. 01:01:48.741 --> 01:01:50.282 [SPEAKER_02]: So what do you guys think? 01:01:50.322 --> 01:01:58.710 [SPEAKER_02]: I know we're just one issue in, but as something we've been following for a while, how do you think this held up to the standard of the other things that I mentioned? 01:01:59.669 --> 01:02:00.510 [SPEAKER_01]: I like this. 01:02:00.730 --> 01:02:18.293 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's just such a darkness to the main story and the actual Alice stuff feels like it's waiting to do something and it's been sort of like she's always in treatment and it's always about her sort of getting it out in the way these villains are taking advantage of her. 01:02:18.353 --> 01:02:25.322 [SPEAKER_01]: So like that feels like it's a little bit in stasis, but I love the Wonderland stuff and I especially love the sequence. 01:02:25.302 --> 01:02:30.153 [SPEAKER_01]: of the tea being delivered by Alice's daughter to Alice. 01:02:30.474 --> 01:02:32.940 [SPEAKER_01]: That thought that was just great scene. 01:02:33.120 --> 01:02:37.150 [SPEAKER_01]: Beautifully drawn well-paced, such tension and dread. 01:02:37.551 --> 01:02:39.295 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was just excellent. 01:02:39.376 --> 01:02:58.752 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the art's a real hero here, it's really impressive that creepy scary kind of trip out five that it's put out there, it was cool to see the caterpillar in the real world and all that kind of stuff going on, yeah, this is just such a weird and interesting story and 01:02:58.732 --> 01:03:04.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think the cover art does a great job of setting the tone for what's inside and what to come. 01:03:04.759 --> 01:03:10.125 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm not sure about everything yet, but yeah, I'm enjoying this dish. 01:03:10.846 --> 01:03:13.309 [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's I feel like you're the biggest fan of this series in the podcast. 01:03:13.349 --> 01:03:14.970 [SPEAKER_01]: How did you like this? 01:03:14.990 --> 01:03:15.871 [SPEAKER_01]: I was all right with it. 01:03:16.032 --> 01:03:22.579 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it has gotten more pressing or thematically tied together. 01:03:23.420 --> 01:03:44.685 [SPEAKER_02]: then the first series like that just absolutely nailed it with in my mind that first series parallel what was going on with Alice with Wonderland really well it was crushing it was devastating in terms of the reveals I wasn't quite sure and I'm still not quite sure why we were continuing it in the second series 01:03:44.665 --> 01:03:49.951 [SPEAKER_02]: My concern, even though I like this first issue and everything that you guys said, I totally agree with. 01:03:49.971 --> 01:03:51.853 [SPEAKER_02]: Art's great story is interesting. 01:03:51.913 --> 01:04:02.626 [SPEAKER_02]: There are really good scenes in it is it won't justify its existence beyond the conclusion point that they already hit in that first series. 01:04:02.686 --> 01:04:12.597 [SPEAKER_02]: That's my concern here, but I'm willing to follow it anyway because I generally am intrigued by what Dan Podosia is doing, even if I don't love all of it. 01:04:13.471 --> 01:04:25.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no just let me ask you when you saw the caterpillar did you think about Alex walk around the streets in New York was that just me Because he's always like smoking a sick hookah. 01:04:25.406 --> 01:04:42.988 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I was kind of walk around being all like, oh, I'm a caterpillar You know, yeah, he does walk around His Brooklyn neighborhood like a real big deal Walk into people's buildings Hey, yeah, I'm a caterpillar I'm a cat 01:04:43.897 --> 01:04:57.484 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to say something real Justin or I do think maybe this maybe this is building toward something I feel like it must be let me see that I think it must be building towards something big and and I think we're going to get that at the end of this series. 01:04:58.358 --> 01:05:22.273 [SPEAKER_02]: Last but not least young Kenny X-Men number 22 from Marvel written by Gell Simone art by David and Marquez and this issue of mutina is back just in time for night crawlers birthday, oh boy, it's going to be a bad birthday for our favorite fuzzy elf what you guys think about this one we're in the shadows of tomorrow we're back in the regular continuity for the uncanny X-Men 01:05:22.777 --> 01:05:32.310 [SPEAKER_01]: I like that the Moutina character I think is cool the I like the first story this one This feels very much like a middle story. 01:05:32.430 --> 01:05:42.163 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where it's getting at I thought the fight with Wolverine was good and especially the the night color fights were to taking a Completely different tact to we're taking on this villain. 01:05:42.483 --> 01:05:45.527 [SPEAKER_00]: What you think about the lady got bamf for times 01:05:45.727 --> 01:05:46.428 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't know it. 01:05:47.329 --> 01:05:47.429 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:05:47.449 --> 01:05:49.512 [SPEAKER_02]: I believe it was five times, right? 01:05:49.532 --> 01:05:50.213 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was four. 01:05:50.313 --> 01:05:52.036 [SPEAKER_00]: I had four down in my notes. 01:05:52.056 --> 01:05:52.557 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know. 01:05:53.578 --> 01:05:54.259 [SPEAKER_01]: I think four. 01:05:54.620 --> 01:05:56.682 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's cool. 01:05:56.863 --> 01:05:58.285 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how Knight Crawler does it. 01:05:58.966 --> 01:06:03.292 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't quite hook into Utita as a character yet. 01:06:03.392 --> 01:06:05.755 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's something I'm missing about here. 01:06:05.815 --> 01:06:09.200 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's some information that's being held back or something like that. 01:06:10.242 --> 01:06:14.788 [SPEAKER_02]: I do like this issue. 01:06:15.545 --> 01:06:23.396 [SPEAKER_02]: Claremont issues where it was all focused around an event that some villain would come in and ruin it, which gives it a really nice focus here. 01:06:23.436 --> 01:06:25.979 [SPEAKER_02]: Night crawler is great throughout. 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:26.840 [SPEAKER_02]: I love him. 01:06:26.900 --> 01:06:31.667 [SPEAKER_02]: Wolverine being like, you'll never take down mutida, and you'll be like, he's like, no worries. 01:06:31.707 --> 01:06:34.250 [SPEAKER_02]: I can carry three swords, one with my tail. 01:06:34.911 --> 01:06:36.253 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much. 01:06:36.233 --> 01:06:48.959 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like Gelsa won't clearly has a really good handle on all of these characters, but particularly Dick Crawler in this issue, which is nice to see, and David Marquez's visuals throughout our great as well. 01:06:50.182 --> 01:06:54.090 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the comment here is something about like modern, 01:06:54.070 --> 01:06:57.773 [SPEAKER_01]: like internet culture, fame chasing. 01:06:57.793 --> 01:07:05.741 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what Yutina is representing and where we don't know, because she's sort of saying like I just want to be an X man or I'm going to kill you. 01:07:05.761 --> 01:07:12.407 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether it's like, there's a certain lack of morality and a sort of cravingness of just like, I have to do this one thing. 01:07:12.427 --> 01:07:14.428 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what I have to do to get it done. 01:07:15.189 --> 01:07:21.515 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's an interesting idea, but it's just maybe what that's what you're feeling Alex is we just feel like it's in the middle of it. 01:07:21.555 --> 01:07:24.077 [SPEAKER_01]: We need a definitional moment for her. 01:07:24.057 --> 01:07:30.026 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe we're going to get that because I think this is a character that Gale someone seems very interested in that we will probably see. 01:07:30.046 --> 01:07:30.166 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:07:30.186 --> 01:07:30.306 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:07:32.249 --> 01:07:33.631 [SPEAKER_02]: And that is it for the stand. 01:07:33.651 --> 01:07:42.925 [SPEAKER_01]: When I say something I missed in the Transformers book, there's a panel here where someone says someone find Matt Tracker. 01:07:43.827 --> 01:07:46.150 [SPEAKER_01]: P is this tracker? 01:07:47.041 --> 01:08:06.855 [SPEAKER_00]: cross over you've been waiting for a lot of he's sick man is his name Matt Travis name isn't Matt tracker what is it it's dot Dan tracker John tracker I don't know I think it's just calm tracker I don't have really 01:08:07.544 --> 01:08:08.705 [SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy. 01:08:09.086 --> 01:08:11.048 [SPEAKER_02]: I really thought we were joking here. 01:08:11.508 --> 01:08:15.533 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it had just surely be like Ted Rackers. 01:08:15.653 --> 01:08:18.376 [SPEAKER_00]: Ted Rackers, trackers, that way you're saying. 01:08:18.396 --> 01:08:19.057 [SPEAKER_00]: So he rackers. 01:08:19.077 --> 01:08:20.538 [SPEAKER_00]: His name is Colter Shaw. 01:08:21.539 --> 01:08:22.821 [SPEAKER_00]: Colter Shaw. 01:08:23.201 --> 01:08:23.581 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. 01:08:23.601 --> 01:08:24.422 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how worse. 01:08:24.502 --> 01:08:25.444 [SPEAKER_01]: That's much worse. 01:08:25.464 --> 01:08:26.485 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about? 01:08:26.565 --> 01:08:28.186 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a sweet, sweet name. 01:08:28.807 --> 01:08:29.328 [SPEAKER_00]: Colter? 01:08:29.708 --> 01:08:29.908 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:08:29.948 --> 01:08:30.709 [SPEAKER_00]: Colter Shaw. 01:08:31.270 --> 01:08:32.531 [SPEAKER_01]: Colter's not a real name. 01:08:32.972 --> 01:08:34.473 [SPEAKER_01]: That's an AI-generated ID. 01:08:34.613 --> 01:08:36.015 [SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about? 01:08:37.430 --> 01:08:41.478 [SPEAKER_02]: That's somebody who's at the craft service table and they're like, listen, we really need to come up with it. 01:08:41.498 --> 01:08:43.461 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a lip track or something. 01:08:43.642 --> 01:08:44.764 [SPEAKER_02]: She was going to film her. 01:08:44.784 --> 01:08:45.886 [SPEAKER_00]: It will perform. 01:08:46.086 --> 01:08:47.830 [SPEAKER_00]: She was going down and they're like, don't worry. 01:08:47.850 --> 01:08:49.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Culture Shaw is out of you. 01:08:49.453 --> 01:08:50.595 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I feel better. 01:08:50.677 --> 01:08:56.066 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they were trying to say Colton, but then they messed it up and said Colton instead and they just had to move forward. 01:08:56.607 --> 01:08:57.769 [SPEAKER_02]: That character's a typo. 01:08:58.410 --> 01:08:59.192 [SPEAKER_00]: No, how dare you? 01:08:59.813 --> 01:09:01.015 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's it for the stack. 01:09:01.035 --> 01:09:07.886 [SPEAKER_02]: If you'd like to support this podcast on podcast, we do a patreon.com slash comic book club where you can get access to our week and geek podcast. 01:09:08.267 --> 01:09:09.249 [SPEAKER_02]: We're losing not a joke. 01:09:09.269 --> 01:09:11.132 [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about tracker all the time. 01:09:11.112 --> 01:09:11.693 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure do. 01:09:12.073 --> 01:09:39.651 [SPEAKER_02]: Apple Spotify Android or the app of your choice to subscribe to listen and follow the show Comic Book Club Live.com for this podcast many more until next time we'll see you at the Comic Book Club. 01:09:40.795 --> 01:09:53.944 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't believe that no one might win their time, it's as serious And it's enough, it's enough, it's enough, it's enough It's enough, it's enough 01:10:01.349 --> 01:10:16.793 [SPEAKER_03]: They sit on crappy couches and they let the sick on the wing And he's just nothing, they're like fast, they're so fast So grab your ring, hammer, don't be late, or it'll fail