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[SPEAKER_09]: Shotsmith here, and Joey Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_09]: Joey.
[SPEAKER_09]: One.
[SPEAKER_09]: How you doing?
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know today is your long day, and it was extra long, because you are pretending to be Chris Levoi.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whose birthday it is today?
[SPEAKER_07]: This is birthday today.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it's not roller coasters.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's having fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Since you're trying to pretend to be Chris, did you get in your extra lifting today?
[SPEAKER_07]: I did.
[SPEAKER_07]: I lifted both cats so I did my curls.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because they are like 12 pounds.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that's a good work.
[SPEAKER_03]: I prefer 12 ounce curls sometimes to 12 pounds.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we are to bar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Two for Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have two guests, Cliff Shector, a Jared Risey joining us tonight, and we are glad you are joining us as well from all of our great radio affiliates.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, it is a busy news day and we are both little tired, you know, you did, you know, Steph Show and Bob Show and you're here, of course, and I was trying to deal with some of the new stuff and Donald being a jackass, pretending to care about affordability today and Detroit.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry if he cared about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, we wouldn't have all these tariffs.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's even exactly, first of all, Joe, he's right on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Second of all,
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, he's been trying to steal ideas from Kamala, he's been trying to steal, he not only tried to steal a long known Elizabeth Warren idea, he literally calls Elizabeth Warren on the idea that he's trying to steal from her and she's like, well, he wants to take my idea, it's fine, but guess what, it still has to go through Congress, yeah, she's which.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he does stupid things today, like he's caught on hot mic talking trash with the the foreign CEO and Oh, threatening to pull funding from sanctuary.
[SPEAKER_03]: You always have much Donald Trump has had his ass beat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess Rachel Maddo last night went through this whole big list.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got a list of them today as well in the news on tap at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's jump down a little bit to the fourth round where Trump's keep Trump keeps losing in legitimate courts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got his ass beat on the New England wind farm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got his ass beat on the energy cuts they were trying to do to democratic states.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got his ass beat on the health funding.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... for children's health programs that uh... uh... uh... rfk junior in his ilk tried to steal and uh... also a federal judge barred the trump regime from a holding election funds for states that would have altered their ballots to the be the week he's been getting his ass kicked left and right and then jacksmith is going to testify in congress next week i am looking forward to that so why that's going to be a blast look
[SPEAKER_03]: You know I might my personal thought is is when you get your ass kicked that much that often For crap that you absolutely did and did poorly Maybe you should stop doing things in that direction.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, thank just a slight suggestion, you know, but Donald and his ilk especially Steven Miller never freaking learn no they never learn
[SPEAKER_03]: and it drives me nuts.
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, the I sponsors themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's obviously the big one going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first round in today's news on tap is fighting the Ice monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: We said yesterday that AGL's an up Minnesota and the folks there in Hannap and County, they're suing the feds.
[SPEAKER_07]: Good.
[SPEAKER_07]: As they say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you folks in Silicon Valley in 1955, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell your people there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, also, by the way, thank you to Keith Ellison for listening to us here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he's listening, because this is what he was saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said this in the folks at Midas Touch earlier today.
[SPEAKER_00]: As I want you to know, yes, there's a lot of things we can do and we're doing those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is important to be applying that there is no statutory, statutory limitations or murder.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this case is not going to be over, even if they try to block a high quality investigation.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, what did I say the last week, two weeks?
[SPEAKER_03]: What did I actually ask Glenn in?
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it October and November?
[SPEAKER_03]: Something that affects bad statute of limitations.
[SPEAKER_07]: It isn't on murder, certainly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is why I asked him that question all the way back last fall.
[SPEAKER_03]: because I knew I knew first of all that these ice monsters are gonna do whatever the hell they want.
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew that these jackasses in the Trump regime wouldn't do it ever, we lost.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I also knew that there are these wonderful things called Statue of Limitations, many of which the general of thumb is in less.
[SPEAKER_03]: A law has a specific statute of limitations.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a federal law, it's minimum five years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there are a whole lot of laws where there's no statute of limitations on it, especially for the biggies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, when you murder,
[SPEAKER_03]: an innocent mom in her SUV slash minivan in Minneapolis so all the people who have been doing the you know gnashing of teeth and tears and all are screwed.
[SPEAKER_03]: been telling you this and see the people in power like he's Ellison.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also know and they have it in their sights and they are acting accordingly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Folks in in Chicago and in Illinois, y'all know, Governor Pritzker there.
[SPEAKER_03]: They set up a whole specific division to take in information so that they'll prosecute what they can do now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if they can't do it now, they'll wait and do it later.
[SPEAKER_03]: to everybody from these punks dressing up in ice gear all the way up the line y'all accountability is coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the things that we have to be pushing when as we're looking later this year to democratic candidates local state and federal yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: So accountability is coming, whether you wanted to not folks, so it is coming to my suggestion is, if you know somebody who's on the wrong side of the line, you might want to tell them that they might want to get their peace and cues in order, or maybe they could just stop doing the crimes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's, it's mandated.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, even though it's illegal, it's mandated.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're using the Department of Labor and at least Homeland Security.
[SPEAKER_07]: I hate the name of that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've always hated the name of that.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's so Nazi.
[SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, that's George W Bush and not this current Nazi, but they're using Nazi phrases now.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're using Nazi phrases and Nazi imagery.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have been on social media.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're trying to do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, under podium on Christynom's podium, it had a Nazi phrase.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they are trying to do all of these kinds of things because they're bullies and because they're trying to say, look at me, we can do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't touch me.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are trying to project strength because they know that they're weak.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they know that whatever the current situation is that maybe for the next five minutes or five hours or five days, that allows them to get away with everything from, you know, killing a woman in Minneapolis to invading Venezuela, that situation is not going to hold.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not going to hold.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we have no idea when it's going to break and when it does break, it's going to break on them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to break them.
[SPEAKER_03]: So all these people who I'm strong, I'm tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are not shut up, you're pansy-ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: If, okay, in all the years that guys have hit on you and this is a long time, I'm aware.
[SPEAKER_03]: The guys who are probably that you look at and say are the most confident or the most strong.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are they ever the guys who have to tell you how confident and how well and down they are?
[SPEAKER_10]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if somebody has to tell you that, it's not the case.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody has to tell you, look at me.
[SPEAKER_11]: How strong I am.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's magic.
[SPEAKER_03]: In a nutshell, that's them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm big, I'm powerful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fair about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, but unfortunately, at least for now, in the, in the current, you get things like we have a whole section today in the news on tap, with the ice monsters rampaging.
[SPEAKER_03]: Literally, in aid to the speaker of the New York City Council, I mean, literally, stashed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ice ram, another card in South Minneapolis, while racially profiling is a pro-public, a great news outlet has found more than 40 cases in immigration agents, using ban chokeholds and other illegal actions.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, if you're wondering, OK, what do I do?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we have solutions for you as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Solutions journalism.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You should get into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What you do if ice monsters invade your neighborhood, we literally have a story on that from Wired.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can check that out.
[SPEAKER_03]: In today's news on TAV.
[SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of, a lot of what people already know to do is the things that we have learned in an iterative fashion, from learning from LA and DC and Chicago and Portland, and the folks in Minneapolis have, you know, added their own spins to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm, I'm glad to see, but.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also there there's something we didn't have in the news on tapony and I've been noticing other people kind of noticing it to remember it wasn't like two weeks ago I think it was like right near the end of the holiday break Or maybe right before when Trump said I'm going to send people new Orleans they started sending ice monsters New Orleans right So they sent the ice monsters New Orleans and now they've had to pull them and send manyapolis
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't have enough ice monsters to send everywhere, to try to intimidate everyone at the same time.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, and they're having trouble recruiting people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, because, among other things, people understand things like statute of limitations.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they go, I'd really like to go out there and shoot me some black and brown people, but you ain't gonna be around forever.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I go and do that in about five years, they gonna come down and take everything I own and throw me in a hole and throw away the hole.
[SPEAKER_07]: could also be that they're paying attention to their neighbors and going, wait, hold, I saw a die on a TikTok video.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I saw going into wearing a maga hat pissed off because they came and took his wife.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, look, it's what you voted for, buddy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: They thought it was going to happen to other people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, guess what, it happened to you, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: So.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we are going to talk to a couple of our friends tonight about this Jared Rizney's coming in a little bit later who we love Jared he comes in here with like every other week every third week something like that and of course Cliff Shector of Blue Amp a Blue Amp Media Cliff Shector is going to be coming here and I was literally telling people you were coming in and then like man you appear what is this like I you know I like three times middle juice we don't do anything you think I screw around man I mean
[SPEAKER_03]: I know I know that I you would be like the good version of like, you know, the anti-beetal juice, you know, because you You are out there every day kicking ass and you say beetle juice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm you learn Bobert ruin that for me Used to be a reference.
[SPEAKER_02]: I found more enjoyable than now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, it's it feels like porn.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to give her a hand.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to reach out to her and go.
[SPEAKER_07]: Boys, boys, boys, Cliff and Sean Louise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cliff, we've been talking about these ice monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got so much to talk to you about, obviously.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know that you and Schuster and the rest of the gang had blew up.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've been talking about some of that, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we definitely want to talk to you here.
[SPEAKER_03]: of course we got to go pay the bills a little bit so you know well well we'll get a few things cleaned up from this first round and then we'll have you around for a couple of rounds and chat with you about all of the insaneness that's going on including what the hell attacking the fed what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yes, I've him anything is possible and it will get worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get worse, but I think there are some things that are already starting to get better, including the fact that we are all standing up, and it's nice to see that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, agreed, and more men, he'll get worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: We all handle it, you know, and that includes some people I am harsh on, and we'll continue to harsh on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look, look, look, we got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to get all our people in a row on all of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, look, Joey and I are going to talk with Clip Shector about all of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fresh and up your drink.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do what you got to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got to go down to Hall left right to center.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know how it goes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Covered back with Clip on a Tuesday night.
[SPEAKER_10]: Hang on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Look, they love you, Cliff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because of the loves you, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're going wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like setting a dineera right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we should really start this off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Man knows how to make an entrance as we know from taxi driver.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Show to you again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the thing that I love, you were doing some fun stuff over at BlueAmp.
[SPEAKER_03]: BlueAmp.co.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that media, you and Shester in the gang over there are doing some really good stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you guys are doing a lot of video, which is I think important for some people who, you know, they want to see each somebody, he's talking about some of these things more.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're tired of some of the mainstream media and missing the point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Katie Turk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I hate to say that, but with that list start when I came out holding with Olivia Nosey.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like her too, and the key teacher and Laura Ingram were like, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Such a great voice on the left.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's redeeming all these people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I ran into Richard Engel over the weekend.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, it was telling them that the politics bar, and, you know, obviously, you know, tell them a little bit about the background, because they've never met him person a person before, and he's like, oh, yeah, he worked with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I worked at Laura Ingram, and he's like, ooh, this guy who's been in horse zones is reaction to the work of Laura Ingram is, ooh, yeah, she's, I mean, again, they're all evil on air.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would tell you if you will offer or two, and she won't tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, and I would tell you when I went to like, you know, and this is a wild back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been on Fox and ages, and I would accept an invite.
[SPEAKER_02]: But back in the day, when I used to, and we're talking 15 years ago, at least, you know, like you
[SPEAKER_02]: to talk to him off camera like Neil Cavuto is actually a nice guy, you know, there are people who said Sean Hannity is a nice guy, I didn't see that, it's very nice, according to definitely, if he likes you, if he likes you, he has the promises that is on here, if you challenge him, you don't just play the Liberal Patsy, and this is going back long enough, you'll notice when Alan Comes was still with us so many years ago, and I wouldn't play the
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the credits at the end, you know, when there's playing, like, though, you know, the walkoff music basically, he was, you know, he was going after, I think it was John Kerry at the time, so it was 2004 a really long time ago, and I was, I was ripping into bush and he just, he got, see, got so red-faced and, you know, as soon as the cut, you know, I know from the Republican, I was debating was in New York and I was in DC, he just was like, that apples never invited back on the show again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We believed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a quote.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just quoting what somebody said.
[SPEAKER_03]: The funny thing Cliff is the fact that you are on your off.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are on a apologetic in many ways about what you believe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which we think is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to act.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have to just be me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I guess it was a lot of of, like, look, you know, I'm friendly Cory Booker have been for ages, and I saw him all I need might have been MS now earlier today, and I wanted him to go further and he didn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there are some Democrats who are like Keith Ellison is being unapologetic.
[SPEAKER_03]: May or fry in Minneapolis is being unapologetic.
[SPEAKER_03]: J.B. Pritzker is being unapologetic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seth Moulton to the response to Venezuela was like, I did a whole side attack.
[SPEAKER_11]: I expect that from Seth Moulton.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, you know, and he's broken from the party and certain stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I, you know, and people got mad at him, but it leaves me to ask myself,
[SPEAKER_02]: sometimes maybe he's doing it for the right reasons, because I sat there and compared what he said in response to Venezuela to what a keen Jeffrey said.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I've just never seen so much, you know, and yeah, that's a beauty being independent, meeting free of, I don't care what they think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I don't, I'm not a consultant anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I retired from that business.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a it's a bar and we know that that you love to it to go you can do that by the way On media, which is on sub stack and on YouTube you are doing very well and by the way You know who's the sailor in this room.
[SPEAKER_07]: That would be Sean
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know, I mean, there's only been one person who is out cursed me so far and I would have never expected this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard about it on subject Katie Fang as the greatest mouth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, I'm just, you know, I'm giving her props.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she comes up with a human trauma.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she'll state a legal principle from like plus he versus Ferguson in one sentence.
[SPEAKER_02]: The next sentence and that for live of the, I mean, I'm
[SPEAKER_02]: We love so shoot.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the only person.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here if you could do that you'd be in good company if you could have her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, she's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's Katie Katie Fang is, you know, she's when I when I live down in South Florida She reminds me of some of some of the other stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's real.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's very she's very nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's very pretty.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she'll cut you real quick To me more importantly is again, and this is what it goes back to what I was saying why I was so just
[SPEAKER_02]: disgusted by what Hakeen Jeffrey said is he like he had all this kind of like early constitution purpose folks to check in with the house and i'm like right that's not what you said most people say oh no he said he said pursuant to the constitution do we think we're most people know what pursuant is or ever he does that work because i don't ever use that right
[SPEAKER_03]: But what I'm glad like I came push through the hey let's do three years of an ASK extension and everybody else there were so many people who were like no he can't do it Democrats can't do a damn thing like well he won't have been again I'm not one of those people like I I can't stand the reflexive you know the the Jill Stein left the
[SPEAKER_02]: Jank, you're the left, you know, people that literally do all they want to is crap on the Democratic Party.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not me, but when I need someone, when somebody commits an act that is unconstitutional illegal breaks international law, the Geneva conventions, I want to hear that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want them also to refer to him very simply as what he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's three simple words, convicted felon Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a convicted felon.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if we said that every time and reminded people,
[SPEAKER_02]: who it is they're dealing with.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it is a easy little word trick that it's just telling the truth.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll drive him nuts and it also makes it sets the narrative for the conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, oh, that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That guy's a criminal.
[SPEAKER_07]: People don't do the same.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_07]: People when they talk about Epstein, they say disgrace finance here.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: Accused pedophile.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly exactly exactly you know, and so that what my that's what my problem is that you know, and and this doesn't mean to do with Again, Jeffries may be great at getting legislation through Nancy Pelosi should be on the Mount Rushmore getting legislation through right, but it was always in my opinion a mistake to have her be a face of the party
[SPEAKER_02]: nothing to do with her face, but she just, she just wasn't crisp enough in what she said.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know she had like two people.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't have two different people.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, what do you use them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, excellent like a Dan Goldman or an AOC, or I don't, and it's that that's she proved she was a girl in the center, after the AOC's left.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care which wing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, wait, but I'm saying I'm seeing Democrats doing being a lot smarter with the media.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're seeing people, you know, you're, you're elected to go on, uh, things like like blue amp, uh, come here, uh, I think that's because you're pushing them here, yeah, and we're pushing them and we now are, you know, are listen to or read by or whatever it is, enough people that they have to pay attention when we're doing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess my problem is it feels like,
[SPEAKER_03]: they often have to go around leadership because our leadership right i mean and that's one of the things that we should be focusing on this year in twenty twenty six is that we've been saying it here at the barcliff for ages now else is last time we had you in here the last uh... some of the fall that that um... there are two big words that everybody needs to be paying attention to affordability and accountability i laugh my ass off about Donald Trump's attempted affordability today because
[SPEAKER_03]: He's on a hoax anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_03]: And the things that he's been trying recently, um, he tried to steal an idea from Kamala on housing.
[SPEAKER_03]: He tried to, he only tried to steal the, the, you know, let's set credit card interest rates at 10% limit from Elizabeth Warren.
[SPEAKER_02]: He hears that and then all the credit card guys get pissed and I'm sure you would back.
[SPEAKER_02]: The never is actually going to do those things.
[SPEAKER_03]: He floats them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he can't do it himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has to go through connoisseurs, but he wasn't going to have for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he doesn't want it to happen, is what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he just wants to say it so that then Fox News carries it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Media that's supposed to, you know, our media that used to at least have some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some,
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he literally, I guess she got off like, uh, was being taken to the cart up to something on Capitol Hill, whatever, and it's like he calls her in the phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: So she's like, fine, I'll take the call whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, why not?
[SPEAKER_03]: And ranch, she was she was on with Lawrence last night talking about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, look, I'll talk to anybody about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I told him, look, if you really, if you actually give a damn about affordability,
[SPEAKER_03]: These are the things you're going to need to do with credit cards with house up, and you need to go through Congress right now if you're going to need to do these things and you could you could tell that Elizabeth was saying without saying that she was also probably kind of coaching him on, you know, you need to change your attitude a little bit of a couple of these things we actually want to get this crap through because Elizabeth Warren, the reason I like Elizabeth Warren as a, she is an actual progressive in the difference between
[SPEAKER_03]: and we're all liberals here and I'm glad of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm a firm myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went back to the L word.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like liberalism because it comes, you know, liberty is where the word comes from.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a real roots.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm a fair and sees that I like to be an actual pragmatic progressive and a pragmatic progressive in somebody.
[SPEAKER_03]: in order to be an actual pragmatic progress if you have to make progress.
[SPEAKER_03]: You guess if you scream in yell about it and then you never put together a coalition that of course everybody I'm talking about and specifically here right but as before and specifically has always been one who she's like she would do a deal with the devil so long as she made sure that she was okay and the devil actually get what he wants.
[SPEAKER_02]: The bill that she she pushed to raise
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, instead of cutting so security to increase it, and of course, I am trying to remember I don't think sadly there was any work, but but no, this is a couple years ago and she got Joe Manchin to join her.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, you know, you can really get that old carcass to.
[SPEAKER_03]: to stop breathing out black and long and leave his coal mine to, you know, that's, that's, that's what's been so nice about seeing some of the folks in Minnesota and in Illinois standing up and saying and doing automatically I've been saying we played this cut from Ellison earlier and I think it's it's just a shortcut, but he was on my this touch earlier and I think it's important that everybody's always been tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what he said about this, and this is the thing, all these, these, these, ears out there who were never going to get these, all these monsters.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is what I've been saying, so it was great to hear him saying it, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here, let me play for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: As I want you to know, yes, there's a lot of things we can do when we're doing those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is important to be applying that there is no statutory, statutory limitations or murder.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this case is not going
[SPEAKER_07]: The problem is, is with this DOJ, they might destroy evidence.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think they've inevitably, I mean, they took stuff from the scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, there's always, if they think they didn't, they didn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you got to remember the people that they would ask to destroy the evidence are going to be low level DOJ people and most of them, there are a whole lot of magnifokes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the guy you were talking about, I think you were talking in the break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cliff, but the guy that the maga guy who was pissed because ice came and got his immigrant wife that was me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, was it you was saying I remember who was saying it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think I'm saying it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I know the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but look, this this is the thing is there are an awful lot of maga.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you would tell me how it could be a story from any of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I heard I think I'm Charlie telling us something about this when he was in here recently.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not uncommon to there are a lot of these mega folks who are saying, holy crap, this is not what I voted for, and they trust this, and you know if they're some mega folks who are working at DOJ, and they're told, hey, you're going to destroy this, they're going to be like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in terms of the ones you know, in terms of the ones you regretted, like we're ground zero for that here.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, it really aren't because the Western part of the Ohio is like in the annum has a ton of farmers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: At the northeastern part is where it was one of the industrial bases of the country, and Biden was bringing back, in fact, Biden gained us a net 800,000 manufacturing jobs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which literally had not been, you know, we hadn't gained, I think since, I mean, it was, I don't know if it was LBJ, I mean, it was a wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at least Carter.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then this idiot came in with the, you know, tariff.
[SPEAKER_02]: on tariff off taco trump this that the other thing screwed all that stuff up it changed the incentives to outsource again for his rich buddies and and so you got both groups that are pissed at him in the state uh... they're all they're all they've got sure brown running you've got uh... what's your name is running for uh... governor in in a high in the act in the middle of the covid crisis and she just picked as a ten governor's actually just talking to them a short while that's been prepared yes david's been very
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to come on our show right there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think you hooked me up with him on my old show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We, I was going to say we absolutely should get to seeing if we get Amy actor and David Pepperon because we've had other, other than we're going to see if we can get David Jolly back too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to win no matter unless they shut everything down and they want to longer.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm not 26.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we don't worry about one at a time, right now we're going to worry about the break.
[SPEAKER_03]: So hang on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hang on.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk more in the next break.
[SPEAKER_03]: More with Clim Shackder on a Tuesday night, Jody and I hang in with you here at the politics walk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much for listening in.
[UNKNOWN]: Hang on.
[SPEAKER_10]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, where you will often see our wonderful friend Cliff Shector hanging out a lot with our friend David Houston.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to get David in here too at some point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you should have gave it on.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, look, every every time that I generally mention Mike Johnson's nickname, I tend to think of, you know, some of the wonderful streams of consciousness consciousness that David has because look, I have said this for a long time now that Donald Trump their Republicans, they have a tiny Johnson and they stand there and they wave their little tiny Johnson to us and we all just point because they're standing there and waving this
[SPEAKER_03]: Johnson with his glasses and everything he is like just a little he's just this little Weener and so it's just so He has less power than a hall monitor Yeah, I Well the whole thing is for a party that is so focused on masculinity and penis size Then you go and you name a guy who was literally five eight who's last name is Johnson You literally
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's scrawny.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a little man like he's just a little man too, Jody, and I don't just mean by height.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, well, yeah, no, he's in all sorts of ways, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that's a, you know, you guys certainly know as well as I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when we call sparks who's probably about that, I was completely jacked and, you know, runs through a wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: My Johnson happens to be short, like a scrawny, just whiny, pathetic.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just politically everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: And he's such a good person on his porn.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a theory out there, somebody said that we never found out about his grinder account.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have to tell you, I don't know that exists.
[SPEAKER_02]: Allegedly.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the funny stuff is we have literally ever had.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm blue amp is we did one use me and David and we had Joe Walsh on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_02]: In any time you'd reach a moment,
[SPEAKER_02]: or something, you'd be like, yeah, where we couldn't fix me out.
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be like, you know, Cliff, Joe would be like, Cliff, I'm going to go check my grinder account.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we just kept coming back up and up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, anyway, we can remind people, and say the word crying out.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a buzzer for you, Joe.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know you, we know you're here in the bar listening, because he comes here sometimes and we love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was so, that buzzer is for your buzz on Blue Way of Joe, just letting you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just that was, I mean, so I've laughed about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably I've ever laughed on air at my Johnson's expense.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that makes, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: But the whole thing is with the economy stuff that we were talking about before, all this stuff has to go through Congress, the stuff that Donald Trump is saying that he if he wanted to do the housing thing and have to go through Congress, if you wanted to do the credit card thing, as I'm sure it was with Washington's plan to, it has to go through Congress.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, sure, Donald is trying to do the stupid, I'm going to attack go the fed, I'm going to attack, which is the dumbest thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: You literally have every other major world bank head.
[SPEAKER_02]: sign on it, be like, look, you want to go boy, but you know, if ever there's there's like options and then there's option like E, you know, which is the dumbest thing you could ever do, that's the one that you choose.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, like they just saw what there is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just saw what they just saw with Venezuela.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's even a limit to to that though, because the bond monsters have been like, look, you may be the president, but we could still put you in a hole where God couldn't even find it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't mean it doesn't mean it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: necessarily backfire on it, but he wants to make classic thing is the whole thing is fall apart, because he's like, well, we have to go into Venezuela because of drugs and then it admits that it's because of the oil and then it turns out it's this, this, this, this, that's it, this, so there's a barrel, so action says it, you know, it's it's uninvestable.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they won't do it and all these other big like oil guys like we're not going in there the security situation the politics over the last six years politics getting the thick crude out of there is just too much and so of course as usual the only one to do is just make a headline seem tough and seem cool and you know all the things he dreams about that he fails at he didn't plan of course because he doesn't plan anything he didn't think about there was no plan with the oil companies and how they were going to do this there was no plan
[SPEAKER_02]: If we were going to do that, we would protect oil workers because we would need boots in the ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: And our guys would get killed and then Maga will hate him even more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something about no war, stupid wars, I believe.
[SPEAKER_07]: But isn't Donald the interim president of Venezuela, according to his wiki page?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I haven't looked at his wiki page.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't hear him say that.
[SPEAKER_03]: He literally changed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been hearing some people talk about this and they're saying, well, you know, generalissimo.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has to get the approval of the current Venezuelan government.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like way, way, way, way, way, way.
[SPEAKER_07]: Have you met Donald?
[SPEAKER_03]: to see um they're ready to also know but you you can't hear you also the president of you search and then also not do something to what's on us is is he's a president of Wakanda Jupiter Atlantis Uranus but he's here as hell isn't a decent president here I'll say that one I mean wow I but yeah and it is funny that you've got some of these monsters like Steven Miller wants president Miller's wailer yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: You rackin' them up today, Jody.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I can honestly say, and I'm allowed to say this, that he's one of the worst Jews ever born.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I can get away with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can say that being a Jewish man, you can say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think about the really bad ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know?
[SPEAKER_02]: We better share.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, BB-9 young comes to mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Steven Miller is definitely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's also so.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's obviously.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you say?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's so fading because he's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, his whole family has pretty much rejected him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they wrote a lot, you know, an op-ed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was in the LA Times, wherever it was about, you know, you, you Stephen would not be here.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it wasn't for your great uncle, you know, whoever whoever escaped from the Nazi like L.A.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rejected him too, Jody.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god, he's still mad that his parents didn't send him to a very nice private school called the Brentwood school because he lived not far from there, so they decided not to Harvard school Harvard Westway.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's in the valley.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a friend who went there, so I'm not totally what I know.
[SPEAKER_07]: I went to West Lake before they joined, so I went to the Lez Lake school for
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that about you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_07]: We did it was an all-girls coat.
[SPEAKER_07]: But anyway, he was not allowed to go there So he had to go to public school.
[SPEAKER_07]: He had to go to Santa Monica.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh The fact that Stephen Miller looks at all of this and says I still want to take this in retcon this so that we could go to Warsaw Then I could say hey look alien enemies act.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can collect anybody who's brown claim their Venezuelan and put them in a constant trace What's your sugar already doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they're kind, they're they're tend to and they're getting blocked by great people like Ellison, great people like Pritzker, but then also you've got Marco Rubio, who has had a Jones against Cuba his whole freaking life and he's looking at this and going, well, we can do regime change in Venezuela, then we can do regime the shots.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had a note on it in yesterday's news on tap at the politicsbar.com that the photos that Donald Trump spewed out on a
[SPEAKER_03]: saying, that's where I'm going to go next because Markos in his year going we need to go do that and I just look at this like the thing that's amazing is idiots around him like you said they're all trying to retcon his moment to moment decisions, but Donald changes his decisions every 30 minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he just he's so he was already so mentally
[SPEAKER_02]: when that he just couldn't control impulsive and stupid and you add that in.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if I can't you talk to Dr. Gregg?
[SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Gregg, who we had in was talking all about his psychology and how he's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, Dr. Gregg, he's got much, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, the thing about Rubio is, is like he literally has already,
[SPEAKER_02]: just roll himself on the floor and completely debased himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody who was big issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me just say this quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you serious?
[SPEAKER_03]: It was Thursday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was the water gripping was.
[SPEAKER_02]: Two of his biggest issues were Ukraine and USAID.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you remember that famous photo that I'm some day, I think will be truly famous of Marlca Rubio's scene there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Most of his head is hand-looking down when.
[SPEAKER_02]: Vance and Trump are berating Zoneski because my Ruby it was for the biggest Ukraine boosters and he was huge and USAID because back before he decided to sell his brain to Trump he at least on some things with smart enough and on this understood that soft power you know even if you don't care about these these people which you should have
[SPEAKER_02]: can human, sorry, but saving people's lives, giving providing immunity for kids to for diseases, saving lives, providing food, doing all these things in various countries, makes them shockingly like you more, and is good for your national security, and the Rubio understood that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a supporter of USAID, but then
[SPEAKER_02]: he got here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so being that he's already sold himself out of those two, he might as well get the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's always been crazy about, which is Cuba, which, you know, that, yes, he's always been a lyrics take like it seems like anybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't, I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It means, I mean, meanwhile, all of this is going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Trump anomics is failing inflation by the way ticked up in December.
[SPEAKER_03]: New FBI report shows food prices rose sharply in December and remains stubbornly high.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have articles on those in the news.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're not letting that not bring out jobs numbers.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've we've so who has to do estimate a really good economist.
[SPEAKER_02]: to Krugby and one of them are that we've lost hundreds of thousands of jobs.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Trump vineyard is literally seeking to hire foreign workers.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, he'll always write, he'll always write.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, are you trying to do it in a lower way?
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got, I mean, you've got all of these things where I'm sitting here going, is he said this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing, he says, you know, he says something, and then the 30 seconds later, he's saying the opposite.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got all these Republicans in Congress.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all know the same thing that all of us here in the bar know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: That.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a subsection of Maga, subsection of Republicans who only come out as John Fugle saying says that Trump, man, name on a TV is on the ballot and they are not ever going to be coming out again because his name is never again going to be on the ballot.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also in the past has never been this low to not only are you gonna not have all the extra crazies come out that come out for him in this midterm on top of that his numbers now What you saw in the the best example of this and we were just about Cuban so it makes sense in in Miami
[SPEAKER_02]: where it turns out people vote for them and then they deported their wife or brother or friends or you know whatever it is you know or they just rough them up in their American citizens for no reason but the color they're skin and beat the crap out of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shockingly he's numbers have I mean I think his numbers have fallen I mean it's it's in saying it's like 30 there's an among last latthinos I think it's like 30 or 40 percent people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not only that, there's a new piece we have in the news on tap today, there's another new poll that finds a huge key group behind Trump's 2024 win.
[SPEAKER_03]: Young men.
[SPEAKER_02]: Young men.
[SPEAKER_03]: Young men.
[SPEAKER_02]: Young men.
[SPEAKER_03]: Young men.
[SPEAKER_03]: exactly healthcare thing oh my god turns out watching him on all the on the bro podcasts and thinking he was funny when he was racist it didn't take the place of having a good job no exactly and not only that not only that you've got the whole thing i keep hearing the rumor about the the Senate and the way they're dealing with healthcare stuff
[SPEAKER_03]: And more and more they're going, you know what, unless we basically sign on to what the house did and just let that three years go through with one contention that we write it in that we have to get to work on it, but of course they only have to hold themselves to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, that they're going to be blamed for it, which it's like, yes, you're going to get decimated.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me give you an example.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got about 10 seconds, 15 seconds.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Mary Peltole, who
[SPEAKER_02]: and the house racing Alaska, which is one of the few states that actually is solidly the really libertarians trending our way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Biden got 43% there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Potola has won there and she's now running for the Senate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: We could win that scene.
[SPEAKER_03]: We could win the last look.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Senate is in play.
[SPEAKER_03]: The House is in play.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, y'all better keep keep yourselves informed.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know everybody here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of you are subscribed to paltixbar.com But you also should subscribe at blu-amp.co because cliff-shector is to do a fantastic job of informing and keeping people laughing as well And remember, you know, cliff can swear there and he doesn't have to be bliped like he does here Clip, we like to send that and kinsingers ears there
[SPEAKER_03]: We love you brother.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will see you back here much sooner than the last time you heard so another couple of months, baby Yeah, well, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I need to talk to you guys about having uh, you folks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll come over there.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got Jared.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna come in next.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Poledico Thank you, radical Don't think it's a bar Wherever you are Poledico Shotsmith Pearson Jodie Hamilton Jodie Sean Hello, sir Oh, not back again
[SPEAKER_03]: I would be talking about that guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: The one the only Jared Rizzie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good evening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go on a Tuesday night.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here you are, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: Juga, give Cliff a high five on your way out the door or your way in his way out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was good to see him even just for a moment.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which, if you did, you one of those cool people, you're probably wearing black, you know, you're like the man in black right now, just saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jody's actually in black.
[SPEAKER_03]: She can a black sweater on, she would go today.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm a prover really dressed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, look, I got a t-shirt on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got my Husker shirt on because tonight, right now, depending on when you're in maybe your future person.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Huskers are playing the Oregon Ducks.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, oh, by the way, we did put up your picture of the Ducks on the Easter page.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, further produced the general House, or Ducks in a row.
[SPEAKER_07]: literally joney what what I didn't see it what's going on with your docs okay we had ducks years ago and at one point when we only had 11 at one point we had over 50 but no no they just came for the day and then left at night it was like their day spa
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, when you've known someone a certain amount, you're like, oh, I have to recategorize that into a crazy type of person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just didn't realize.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Joe, he had 50 dots.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: These were, these were, these were, no, she's not.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have no main dots.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Pop domain.
[SPEAKER_07]: I actually have a video that I'm leaving.
[SPEAKER_03]: None of them was named fup.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although that is still my favorite name for a duck.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, fup.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fup duck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like fup duck.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_07]: Little too close.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully we don't get kicked off of every station, but hey, hey, we bleeped Cliff last hour.
[SPEAKER_04]: We didn't have two of us.
[SPEAKER_04]: FUP.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Cliff said that in the break he said Adam Kinseyger doesn't like that kind of laying.
[SPEAKER_04]: He does not.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, but but Jared, I literally at one point when we only had 11 ducks.
[SPEAKER_07]: I looked outside by our pool and they were all lined up literally lined in a row.
[SPEAKER_07]: facing the pool and I posted on the Facebook in 2015.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think it was.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're in a row now.
[SPEAKER_07]: What do I do?
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was the last time the last time things were good.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was, that was a way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to make it way to
[SPEAKER_05]: I can send video.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's like with them leaving one night.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, bye.
[SPEAKER_03]: But look, also the last time you were here, we did a drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, I mean, look, one of the things we like when you come in.
[SPEAKER_03]: You hang out with us and oftentimes we do.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you give me issues.
[UNKNOWN]: Really?
[UNKNOWN]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good word.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, did you have you, have you seen?
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you check your email for the drink of the day?
[SPEAKER_04]: I love this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have, I have two things that I want to say about it, but I'm going to wait.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but it is about medication and I want to talk to you guys about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that in this new year, this cocktail has great fruit.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't have a lot, but it has a great fruit twist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're likely to think that considering things are only going to get more depressing and considering how many antidepressants interact poorly with grapefruit, I think we should be sensitive.
[SPEAKER_07]: same with the blood pressure medication, there are certain blood there are certain medications that great truth you can't have because it's all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll keep that in mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we oftentimes do things that are not a health professional and we have the non-alcohol version.
[SPEAKER_03]: We try to keep that in mind too.
[SPEAKER_03]: We try to keep everybody's preferences in mind here at that politics.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, speaking of, you know, ring a fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned the man in black.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jody, what is the drink of the day?
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, who inspired it today?
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, the net the drink is the train spotter cocktail, which if you see the movie trains butter.
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, and it's inspired by Johnny Cash's Folsom prison concert.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was today in 1996.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was a year not even I was barely born.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was going to be born in five, I was a year and I was almost a year old.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was five days short of a year old when that came out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, if if you happen to know the lyrics.
[SPEAKER_03]: of the johnny cash on full prison blues obviously literally the first lyrics that makes sense that it's a train spot or cocktail i mean and anything else aside i mean on y'all also by the way uh... as you noted uh... carefully and wonderfully in the drink of the day jodie uh... it is also a christ love voice birthday it is christ love was birthday as well today it's not on all of the socialities like he used to be still live on facebook so you can go over there on facebook and you know give him a happy birthday and you know so
[SPEAKER_03]: discuss.
[SPEAKER_03]: We try to be nice to Chris among other things.
[SPEAKER_03]: He knows that the best zoo in the country happens to be Omaha's Henry Dorley Zoo.
[SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't know that.
[SPEAKER_07]: He loves Nebraska and we know how many ducks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, producers love Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: How many but how many ducks does that zoo have?
[SPEAKER_03]: Sean, let me come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lots and lots of them and several of them are named a pup.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're my punch-o-in, and it's you, and it's you, and it's you, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me, and it's me
[SPEAKER_03]: Name of the duck.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just, you know, just thinking back to very early in my career when that was my job But there's Howard and there's fup.
[SPEAKER_03]: These are the names of the duck family.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just saying anyway Marble universe Chote what is in a train spotter God?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why am I been here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why am I bothering?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, because you're the one who keeps us on the rails
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just you and Jared, and you gotta get off the rail.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're all supposedly here to try to keep each other on the rails, and that doesn't always work.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what the train, we're spotting the train, Jody.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, we are.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, children.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, you're gonna need a mixing glass, some ice, a shock glass, a bar spoon, a pre-chilled cook glass.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is where we get into the stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Two ounces of rye whiskey.
[SPEAKER_07]: three quarters of an ounce of elder flour la cure, a half ounce of cherry hearing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's basically really kind of super cherry.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: A quarter ounce of fernée, bronca, and as young Jared said, a great fruit twist for the garnish.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you can have great fruit, don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about the garnish.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the only other thing I want to say about this cocktail, and I've already do rail this enough, I will say that any kind of fernet, any kind of fernet, is your international credit card for being cool with your local bartender.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you, that is, that is an industry drink.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every bartender.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've ever been every service person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know every hospitality person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, yeah has a deep abiding love.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's call it a fornet.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if you get cool with it, you too can become the person that gets invited to the late night hangs and get the industry bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: So enjoy that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Besides that, if you, if you actually, you know, you bring up the recipes on your phone for the politics body.
[SPEAKER_03]: You actually show them to bartender.
[SPEAKER_03]: You'll be like, hey, you make this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me be like, that's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where'd you get it?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you're helping us.
[SPEAKER_03]: See, there we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you take these wonderful ingredients and make a train spotter cocktail?
[SPEAKER_07]: You add them all to your mixing glass and a little more ice started chill.
[SPEAKER_07]: You add them and then add the ice stirring.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a stir.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a mixing glass and you strain it into your coop glass and you express the great foot twist and add to the glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: So There you go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a fascist because I have them.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, the people that are like defending Ross.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: They're like, well, what she did, well, they're doing it legally.
[SPEAKER_07]: A no, because they're not law enforcement.
[SPEAKER_07]: So we're just going to.
[SPEAKER_07]: Go at that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And secondly, even if they were hiding slaves was legal, was illegal.
[SPEAKER_07]: Having slaves was legal, gunning and down was legal.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's right about all those.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, we can go down and we can go up and down on the what was legal versus what was correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was illegal for women to have credit cards and their own bank accounts.
[SPEAKER_07]: Only 50 years ago.
[SPEAKER_07]: by the way, it was ninety-seven three and I could buy a house, granted I was only six.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it was only when it became legal that eventually in 1993 it was able to buy my house without a man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although you do happen to have a wonderful man who stands next to you and says,
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait a minute, what does he say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a look at this something to throw out there a lot of apologies for that anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here, I do think just on the topic of, because Jody mentioned like we're talking about slaves, we're talking about women's rights.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen a lot of really smart people in news and media this week.
[SPEAKER_04]: try to I think make sense coalesce a lot of what we're all feeling right now and one of the things that I've been seeing a lot of is that people who want to talk about guys like Ross or just the ice and CBP project the iceball suit and and talking about them in the context of you know what what are what are the the analogs that we think of you know get stoppo secrets you know
[SPEAKER_04]: the better analogy is an American one, which is the slave patrols.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And given that these guys are rounding people up, deciding who belongs, putting them back to where they think they belong.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's also coming at a time when people are curtailing the rights of minorities and plenty of rights for women.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know you guys have a bunch of stories today about about those kinds of issues.
[SPEAKER_04]: we the analogy is perfect and it's from our own history exactly need to think about you right you're right it's not it's not from somewhere else this is our own history and one day whenever one will have been against this
[SPEAKER_04]: We will look back on this with a lot of shame and be able to say, though, this was a uniquely American problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we will all look back on a wish.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those of us who are against it all along, we ain't got nothing to be ashamed of, but those people who, after up, they're going to have a lot of shame to carry.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, if you weren't on the wrong side of the first place, you wouldn't have to worry about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you?
[SPEAKER_04]: If it ends and now we have to see about you know how are we going to make it right how are we going to welcome people back you guys talk about everyone deserves that in chance and I think that as we look ahead to what's next we start talking about what the coalition looks like what are the things we're going to be looking for.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what are we needing to expect from some of our democratic and independent for that matter leaders that we want to relax definitely something important we can talk about that obviously we've got you for at least a couple more segments here.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we've got a lot of big deadlines coming up in the next couple of weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're seeing that's a business January 31st and looking at you, calendar.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's going to be a good one there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for hanging out with us, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: We really appreciate you, and you, especially you, hey, you over there in a blue sky corner.
[SPEAKER_03]: Spooks are always a little wild, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we appreciate you guys hanging out with us from wherever you are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jared Rizzi is hanging out with us tonight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: you get an extra round of that just because you know you're one of our regulars and also you occasionally staff the bar here which you know I mean you know he's not here as often but we are extremely appreciative and it was nice to have you in here during the break as well because that was kind of fun it's one of those where you know you look and I look at the numbers obviously and it's always nice to see people who are like hey I really like Jared so we're glad they do
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm just glad that I've got so many friends and family who can know it's not just your friends and family list now people actually do enjoy having you here in the bar especially you in your your interaction with Jodi which you to play off each other Well, here's the thing and this is you know, I think Jodi it's time we we should tell Sean.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know we should.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, what it's just a two of us Jared.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, okay
[SPEAKER_03]: What did I miss something you know?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Sean.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: No We're fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's good Sean.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't worry about okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm skipping this whatever it is I was going to have a good time We are it's gonna be I'm not I'm not anybody I'm not
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, we don't leave anybody behind speaking which speaking of which, you know, the whole Ohio's family thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you say it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, you still live Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, hold on.
[SPEAKER_07]: It means family.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I don't know if you saw on social media, Jared, I've got a new new member of my family.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you die.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's so cute.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the first.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I post the picture of that last night as well, up on the Facebook.
[SPEAKER_03]: See you guys can see.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does.
[SPEAKER_04]: saw that I you know what I said I didn't see it and then I saw it when you show that and I was like Okay, I do see it now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I think I know he's so cute isn't he he is a very big snuggle bunny he likes nuggles which is good And he's he's starting to learn the important things about you pee outside that's that's important to know Well, I mean he just got there and he's skewed it
[SPEAKER_03]: He is, he is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Elevators.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's still.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: The animals.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Elevators.
[SPEAKER_03]: a little bit weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, look, I mean, it's, it's kind of like Donald Trump today in the whole affordability thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump and being affordable is as weird to humans who actually know what the hell's going on as elevators are to dogs because Donald Trump doesn't care about affordability.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Could care less.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not in the same, it's not even times on.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not in the same galaxy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this is not a person who's shopped for himself.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not a person who's dealt with a family budget.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, this is not a person who has, I mean,
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm old enough to remember laughing about someone like Mitt Romney or George H. W. It was kind of counting and saying those daily issues that people would face and and Trump is even is even more removed because he's never even pretended to give a damn well, you know, he talked about groceries because nobody ever talked about that word.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's brand new word.
[SPEAKER_03]: I still like the fact Tom, by the way, over here in the blue sky corner said to us, he said the intersponsored to Trump calling on Senator Warren asking her about affordability.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he said, honestly, I hope Senator Warren answered that phone call.
[SPEAKER_03]: Affordability and accountability, who this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to give you a ding for that, Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: But those are the two words that we know, especially the accountability.
[SPEAKER_03]: Donald, what's nothing to do with this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the other thing he's avoiding all his life.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's never had to deal with the way we did.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's always trying to do a void of accountability.
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Both cancer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's going to come up in two deadlines, meaningfully in this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: One, we've got, as you alluded to right before the break, we've got a shutdown deadline coming up in two weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there are more and more Democrats who are looking at that thing and going, you know,
[SPEAKER_04]: We could stop some of these ice monsters real quick with this thing why and even if the funding for you know Essential services will include the people who gotta go to places and shoot moms in the face you do have it ability
[SPEAKER_04]: by some leverage over the rest of the government.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now I think Democrats made a misfire early last year when they said we're not gonna push on shut down.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we talked a lot during the second big shutdown fight over the last year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think all three of us came away from this being like, are they actually kicking the ass of this thing pretty well?
[SPEAKER_03]: Democratic voters and independent voters there is literally we had a piece in yesterday's news on top that said new polling says that that more Americans are leaning liberal in fact actually uh Harriet and over at CNN literally said as much this morning as well that you know liberal used to be a four-letter word not anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when I was a kid, liberal was a four-letter word.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody wanted to identify as liberal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: The folks identifying as liberal, it is hit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get this a 50-year high, and you can see it pretty well here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take a look here.
[SPEAKER_01]: The conservative lead over liberals.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is self-ideat political ideology.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back when I was a kid, conservatives had a 22-point advantage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Huge, huge advantage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, it's just seven points.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a 15-point shift.
[SPEAKER_01]: away from the Conservatives towards the Liberals in terms of the margin between the two of them, as I said at the beginning, the self-identified liberalness of this country is at a 50-year high, when all the way back, looking at Paul's since 1976, and at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, hundreds.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, now here's here's the thing is is that I and and we mentioned this earlier you and I were talking about this joke and came into the bar I think there's also the whole thing like the three of us were talking about how people
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't always necessarily label themselves liberal or what were we talking about with that with Cliff too.
[SPEAKER_07]: We were.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but people don't I'm not a liberal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a progressive or I'm a Sure, whatever, but look if you actually and I haven't looked at the cross tabs on that Gallup poll.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you look at the cross tabs, I would bet that what it actually says is people who are self-considered basically to the left now are more like what Bruce Bartlett says, where it is the broad left.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we all have to be looking, but what's very clear to me is that we want people who are like Pritzker, who are like, um, A. G. Ellison.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, you want to go find.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll sue your ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're going to do more.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, my governor sued.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am glad, although I am mad at your governor right now, Jody, I am mad at you now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, so there are some people who are pushing for wealth tax and California.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I agree with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Guess who doesn't?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gavin Newsom.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, you know, Gavin, how much strikes this guy going to be allowed to take?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, I mean, if this is a bad one, this is bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's huge.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, look, Gavin, you got questions on where you stand with trans people.
[SPEAKER_03]: you let right wing idiot fascists hanging out your podcast and now you're like, you know what, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I need to protect the rich people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, he's not going to be governor until after this year, but this is what my, but my whole thing is is that among other things, because the, the national media wants to to trend on him and and look, I like them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I like him personally.
[SPEAKER_03]: I met him a number of times.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think whatever, but he's so pretty.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's very handsome guy, but at the same time, I'm like, dude, we need people who are, and he's done other things.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's been willing to take on other people and other topics, but I'm like, folks got to understand the center of the Democratic Party is not.
[SPEAKER_03]: where the corporate right used to have it, where the worst said the corporate left used to have it, where it was, they kind of liberal, yeah, basically, because they all care about their button and no.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is significantly further to the left because after 40 or 50 years of screwing, working people of trying to steal away and finally being able to steal away rights from women and rights from immigrants and rights from brown and black people,
[SPEAKER_03]: were done with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you are not going to stand up and fight for the people who are part of your coalition who give you the power that you have as a politician, then we're going to find somebody who will and there are plenty of them out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: who are not not afraid to go pound for pound, take a punch, give a punch, kick ass out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the reasons I like Pritzker is, is he doesn't seem to give an F if somebody well, you know, he's like, and yes, he can afford to not give an F. Yeah, he can.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he also, he also does does little things that tend to make me think he actually thinks about the working people of Illinois.
[SPEAKER_03]: And and I'm like, we need, we need people who are thinking about the working people.
[SPEAKER_04]: two other things on this one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're going to see because Trump is we've already seen the high watermark of his popularity.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do not believe it's going to improve not be in the next in this calendar year for all the reasons that everybody all of us here at the bar have been talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're 100% right on that because especially the fact that all the crap that he's been doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: with the economy, with the health care and letting the Republicans screw that up, with you know, increasing costs of this damn tariffs with all of this and letting the ice monsters take, you know, you might be a maga guy, but you know, he gets to take your your friend or your spouse who happens to be brown and he's like, you know, they're going, what's you promised us was that you'd get all the bad people and that you'd lower costs.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, they're going after actors now too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going after all kinds of people because they think they can.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and in the same vein, you know, you talk about people identifying as liberal or conservative left or right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think, you know, we have for the detriment of Republicans everywhere, we are in a Republican trifecta.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know that the government, the economy, everything is
[SPEAKER_04]: their fault right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's really easy for lay people for regular folks to connect the dots and say, my ex is more expensive because of tariffs.
[SPEAKER_04]: My community is less safe because there are ice in my neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's easy to connect those dots.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not subtle.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now they're not being subtle about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that people are
[SPEAKER_04]: maybe a little bit more open to a a democratically aligned government because we've seen what happens when democrats have the trifecta and we're talking about Obamacare in that in that vein we're talking about literally just
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... uh... what uh... two half three years ago when we had democrats in congress and uh... well except we haven't had you know uh... liberals at the court ever but uh... well we have been not in our life in the war in court not since the war yeah so right what we're talking about here is the ability to govern in a way i mean in in six ten years of obama care we are now having republicans finally say i we got a support this thing yeah right it's taken sixteen years it's romney care
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a heritage foundation, it is fixed Romney Care, but the thing that they hate, this is one of the things I've discussed with Bruce Bartlett on a different online offline whatever, that it's funny, and this is the reason why they constantly wear Republicans cannot deal with the healthcare situation at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: is Hillary Clinton is the one who came up with the very, if you were able to take this thing, if the U.S. health care systems, as our friend Charles Gabba reminds us, it's multiple systems cobbled together.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you were able to take that massive clutch of a car apart and take all of those systems down, then go all the way to the bottom at the very bottom.
[SPEAKER_03]: is what Hillary Clinton started, which she started working on all of this and got with experts and put that in.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the Heritage Foundation took it and then Mitt Romney and Republicans and Democrats in Massachusetts took it and then President Obama and Democrats and a few Republicans took it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's been some things done to it since that's where you're at on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Republicans hate it for two reasons.
[SPEAKER_03]: screw up of a somewhat decent democratic idea and actually made it work and to the hate it because they're the ones that named it obama care and they're like God, can you watch that black man's name often the answer is no bite me so they hate it and they hate it and and the other thing that many of them hate is that now there are an awful lot of democrats who go
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, the ACA is a stepping stone and it's always been a stepping stone and Biden and Harris and the Democrats in Congress made it actually be the way it was supposed to be in 2010 when it was supposed to have you know and and you were public and screwed it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But now, if we actually get it and keep it at that level that they put it at, it will become a stepping stone.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the next step is universal affordable care.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they don't know where to go from that because they're like, but that's not what I want.
[SPEAKER_03]: What they want is they want sick people to die in die quickly.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what Alan Grayson said so.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so we have that really clear dichotomy that lives in people's minds.
[SPEAKER_04]: They know what Republican governance looks like.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're feeling it every single day.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can remember
[SPEAKER_04]: what democratic governance feels like.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it doesn't suck this much.
[SPEAKER_04]: And with that sharp contrast in mind, I think you're going to see a lot of momentum.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the question now becomes for Democrats not just at the end of this month when they decide how they're going to support or not support a government shutdown.
[SPEAKER_04]: But also as we look ahead toward the primaries and what we can aspirationally get in the election is coming later this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do we want the Democratic Party to look like when they're taking on Trump 11 nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that isn't that's a question Must from that's a question.
[SPEAKER_03]: We absolutely we can talk more about we got one more round And we should talk about that so if you guys are game for it we will you game
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Joey thumbs up, Jared says, all right, all right, it's exactly, we'll talk about what kind of Democrats you guys want to see, but what would we like to see optimally?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I think it's a great subject.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, you guys can send us your thoughts on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, through our social media and, uh, look, first I'd be drink, come on back one more round on Tuesday night back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Our wonderful friend Jared Rizzi hanging out with us here on a Tuesday night and you had a great point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look the the primaries for a lot of stuff or starting cliff was saying an hour one the primary from the Ohio governor race.
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically looks like acting pepper ticket is going strong on that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the effects of last year's elections are still.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, we've got here in Virginia this Saturday, Abigail Spanberger, and all the Democrats are going to be taken patler.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what, I'm going to be Saturday celebrating that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we need to be enjoying the winds that we have, but we really also already need to be looking at what kind of Democrats, what kind of look there are people in certain states.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a guy, Dan and Osborne, who is running in Nebraska as an independent, because he knows that there are people, especially in the Western part of Nebraska, who would vote for a dead chicken with an R staple to his ass as my friend Paul Phil, I'm not gonna say.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are, for whatever reason, they are politically stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: They would vote for, you know, an ice monster just takes somebody from their family and they go, yeah, but he's a Republican.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is, this is how they, so Osborne is running as an independent.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think he still has a good chance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because of the fact of a lot of his policy positions are those of Democrats and you're you've got Independence you got people from working families party and certain corners of the U.S. Who in many ways line up with Democrats and if they are the kinds of Democrats that we want even if they're not labeled Democratic on the ballot You know They're gonna be as damn sure a lot better than Republicans because every Republican everywhere right now has to bow to Trump
[SPEAKER_03]: And the ones who are trying to step away from it and you notice they've been testing the fences.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're not getting very far.
[SPEAKER_03]: So now the question is, what kind of Democrats do we want this year to put into primaries and go forward?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the other part of this that is I think exciting is that, you know, I remember covering the first Trump administration as a White House reporter talking to a lot of friends on Capitol Hill that was an environment where.
[SPEAKER_04]: we saw around this time, so eight years ago, around this time, Trump was dealing with like a a D plus five D plus eight environment.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was essentially where we were eight years ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then those people who aren't necessarily political here, yet, plus five D plus eight means.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're saying that Democrats are favored to win in a generic ballot by five to eight points, basically saying that, you know, most elections, because of the way we've jerry-mended the hell out of our Congress, most elections are either, you're a member of Congress, is either real safe and going to be a deer and are based on the 51% of the people where you live,
[SPEAKER_04]: or they're in one of those little swing states and people in every political party have done a really good job of, you know, whittling down those seats so that they have to fight less and less.
[SPEAKER_03]: Choosing their voters and serve letting the voters choose the elected officials.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a terrible system.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the one that we're in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Democrats have shown some appetite for changing it and have done so in places where they're in power.
[SPEAKER_03]: Republicans have shown the tendency to make it worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just noting a contrast there.
[SPEAKER_04]: in the last couple of weeks what we're seeing now is a very different environment.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is a D plus 12 environment in some of these.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's 10.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we all remember what happened by the way, you know, in the first midterm of Trump's first term in office, there was a blowout.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and she's about to retire along with a lot of other big hitters, big swingers in this college.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, Danny Hoyer announced he's referring to and I think with that environment, let's have an appetite.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's have an ambition to get a swing for the fences a little bit and try talking about the kinds of Democrats who can win in any environment.
[SPEAKER_04]: let alone one that favors them strongly, let alone, you know, we, we don't have to pick the lesser of two evils.
[SPEAKER_04]: We could try to maybe pick something that we're excited about.
[SPEAKER_04]: We saw that happen in New York City.
[SPEAKER_04]: We saw it happen in other races around this country.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we can start to see that elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd like to see that elsewhere, and I'd really like to see Democrats talk about governance in a way that isn't just Fielty bowing to one guy who's not doing very well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Amen to that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And let's get a lit.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look, it looks different.
[SPEAKER_03]: It looks different in different places.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to, we got to state that too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, David Jolly, who we've had on, we want to have back down in Florida.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, there are a lot of people who are like, wait a minute, need you to be Republican and any more kind of, yeah, well, yeah, but in Florida,
[SPEAKER_03]: he is the kind of Democrat who can win and he is there are a lot of the issues we had him on we had him here in the bar and there were a ton of issues were like yeah they're a ton of issues were somebody like him and somebody like can't have a gazelle who we also want to get back here in the bar agree on and she is much further left but you know what she she's she's running for gencia caskies old seat and I bet she went there
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't see any reason why we can't swing for the fences and it's not just about an impeachment.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not just about trying to keep the worst of Trump out of here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, although I think that would be great, and you know, certainly there's a long list of oversight that's overdue.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the other thing that we're going to see is the tighter Trump feels as these numbers get worse and worse for him.
[SPEAKER_07]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: and they will, almost everything screams when it dies, and I think we're going to start hearing the screams come louder and louder from this movement, because there are really only two futures at this point.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can either see
[SPEAKER_04]: a government that no longer resembles the america that all of us grew up in and becomes essentially the the the the fashion states of america yeah the vision that trump has for a a poot nesk you know version of this country or looking at gilly ad
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, I mean, you would.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you this is the lady.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's the lady here.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think that I think that the other version, the one that is slightly less available on streaming services, is reading because you can read about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I don't want to, you know, stage and screen has been really over emphasize.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, but no, yeah, there is another option.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's one that doesn't suck as much.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that we're going to hear a lot of screaming.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to hear a lot of screaming.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've been hearing screaming and we've been seeing violence for 10 years.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that there are an awful lot of people who are part of that broad
[SPEAKER_03]: Who are sick and tired of this?
[SPEAKER_03]: They're sick and tired of Republican saying, I don't get 110% of what I want.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I'm gonna burn everything down and blow everything up.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're sick and tired of letting the corporations decide everything and even not just all the good corporations, letting a small handful of rich white men, they don't like the violence.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't like the,
[SPEAKER_03]: all of this garbage that we're seeing.
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't like it the first time around, and they sure as hell don't like the warmed up rehashing of the fascism that is current in the current Trump or regime.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think people are saying, even some of the megaphoax is saying, I had enough.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I think I think I've heard this regurgitated over the news that once the Republicans get out of their primaries that are running,
[SPEAKER_07]: If they win their primaries, because they're trying not to piss off Donald, if they win their primaries, by June, they're going to turn it, turn the volume up to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: They may give him the bird or because he's going to cut bait on him.
[SPEAKER_03]: It depends on how strong the monster maga machine is because it's not just the maga consultants.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just the whole Republican party and it's not just Donald Trump and it's not just the outside influences from Russia and from China that are trying to push things keep it in maga world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are a lot of influences in itself, but you've also got soap.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it gets to June and maybe they want to break away.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got this army of people that says, don't break away.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you've also got everybody else who's seen everything else that's happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we all know we don't trust these people any further than we can throw them and many of them are still leaving there and coming over here going because I don't trust him either and Kimberly Johnson has said if if a
[SPEAKER_07]: It's possible, but if they, if they, if they resign, I, I still, I still, if they resign in the summer before they have to come back, that guarantees that Donald will get his nominees in by the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, if they don't resign, we know that the election is not fixed.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, but also, I also look at, I also think there's Oliver.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, all of the election, oh, I love that phrase.
[SPEAKER_03]: Politics is never over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also look at, as the elections, the reason that we found out that it was extremely hard for the ridiculous idea that Donald had of stealing a 2020 election is all elections are local.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ma'am, Bob Buford.
[SPEAKER_03]: that, you know, they're the morons in your community.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yet, they volunteer at the election board.
[SPEAKER_03]: They volunteer for the voting booths every single time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they pride themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maga, though, they may be on actually keeping to the rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because even some of their friends are like, you know, you could make things a little bit better for us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, shut up.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get mad about that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have thousands and thousands and thousands of people left right and center across the country who are response for these elections.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's extremely difficult to rig a US election because there isn't just one election.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are thousands of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the election that's operated in this town is not the same as it is in that town.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they may try to steal a little election.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're going to be damn hard to do it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm less worried about 26 and more worried about 28 because they have time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in order to make sure that we are ready for 28, we got to elect the right people now in 26.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's not just people who are going to be fighting Trump.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not just people who are going to make sure that we have all the names of everybody who's been wearing a mask in your town and roughing up old people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Damn.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be, it's going to be people who are ready to govern.
[SPEAKER_04]: in competency going into 28.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's what I want people to think about.
[SPEAKER_03]: People who will work for us to make sure that things are actually affordable.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just that we want to hold the monsters accountable.
[SPEAKER_03]: We want to make sure that things are actually affordable.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're supporting things like child care and making sure that so security is better and all the stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean, this has been a rough two weeks to start the new year, but I just, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a long year.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can we just we can get excited about the future a little bit we can have to and we of course always get excited when you hang out with this Jerry when I got for a little bit on the after hours here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh fine But only but only if there's some for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we have for now here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean after all it is bar so we got it
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly exactly look we will hang out with Jared there for those you listen on the radio join us over at the politics bar dot com look tomorrow Bob Saska gonna be in the house join us then have yourselves a good evening.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you tomorrow