WEBVTT 00:03.558 --> 00:06.282 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, welcome back to the Christian parenting podcast. 00:06.302 --> 00:14.556 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Steph Thirling, and today we're talking about something that every Christian parent wants but a lot of us feel intimidated by and that is studying the Bible. 00:14.996 --> 00:20.185 [SPEAKER_01]: If you've ever looked at your Bible on the nightstand and that I want to be in the word, I just don't even know where to start. 00:20.345 --> 00:24.572 [SPEAKER_01]: You are not alone between school drop-offs, work, dinner, and the never-ending needs of our kids. 00:24.952 --> 00:29.700 [SPEAKER_01]: It's really easy for Bible time to turn into either a checkbox or something we keep putting off. 00:29.680 --> 00:31.563 [SPEAKER_01]: But today's guest is Faith Will Mac. 00:31.904 --> 00:33.487 [SPEAKER_01]: She is known as Bible nerd. 00:33.507 --> 00:40.980 [SPEAKER_01]: She runs Bible nerd ministries and she is here to make scripture feel approachable, exciting, and actually doable in real life. 00:41.000 --> 00:43.203 [SPEAKER_01]: Her new book is called No More Born Bible Study. 00:43.604 --> 00:47.571 [SPEAKER_01]: And today we talk about why Bible study is not meant to be a performance. 00:47.551 --> 00:57.429 [SPEAKER_01]: how to read the word from a place of worship and why the gospels are such a great reset button, and then also how we can model a love of scripture in a way that invites our kids into it as well. 00:58.030 --> 01:02.499 [SPEAKER_01]: This conversation is encouraging, it's practical, and it's honestly just a breath of fresh air. 01:02.539 --> 01:04.783 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to love faith, some joy. 01:11.615 --> 01:13.941 [SPEAKER_02]: They all don't do the Christian parenting podcasts. 01:13.961 --> 01:16.247 [SPEAKER_02]: You just were having the young excited for this discussion. 01:16.307 --> 01:17.430 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't really fun. 01:17.490 --> 01:22.061 [SPEAKER_01]: We were just laughing as we started because we were literally just talking about the weather and we're like, all right. 01:22.082 --> 01:22.904 [SPEAKER_01]: And switching to the Bible. 01:23.966 --> 01:24.949 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're talking about today. 01:25.089 --> 01:26.894 [SPEAKER_01]: We're all talking about scripture and studying God's Word. 01:27.014 --> 01:28.999 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're just going to jump right into it, I guess. 01:29.620 --> 01:32.363 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it, natural, it was just in the Bible. 01:32.924 --> 01:33.625 [SPEAKER_01]: And here we go. 01:34.266 --> 01:40.974 [SPEAKER_01]: But before we do jump into it, buy and introduce yourself, tell us what you do, tell us about your family, the important things. 01:41.214 --> 01:50.305 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so hi, my name is Faith Will Mac and I create content online, just really trying to serve Christians with the tools and tips to go deeper in their Bible studies. 01:50.485 --> 01:55.611 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm married to a pastor and we have two boys and they're wonderful, let me see. 01:55.591 --> 01:56.772 [SPEAKER_00]: one just turned six. 01:56.792 --> 01:58.294 [SPEAKER_00]: The other one is seven. 01:58.554 --> 02:03.919 [SPEAKER_00]: And I drink way too much coffee, love books, and that's kind of the gist. 02:04.179 --> 02:04.439 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 02:04.459 --> 02:06.501 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you tell me what your ministry. 02:06.521 --> 02:07.062 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sorry. 02:07.282 --> 02:08.583 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 02:08.603 --> 02:12.567 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so online, I do ministry, um, color cells of Bible nerds. 02:12.647 --> 02:24.518 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's Bible nerd ministries, and I create, I start out on YouTube and create, I'm like Bible study tips and tricks and tools, and you know, like everything reviewing commentaries to doing a Bible 02:24.498 --> 02:42.521 [SPEAKER_00]: and then kind of moved on to instrumentic talk as well, got a podcast, and it's just basically like I think somebody of us Christians, we go up in the church and we know that we aren't to read the Bible, we know we ought to be enjoying the Bible, but yet it sits dusty on our nightstands, and I think somebody of us have this like guilt that we carry around with us. 02:42.702 --> 02:51.433 [SPEAKER_00]: I went to undergrad, I said Bible, and I went to seminary, I said Bible, and then more, that I studied the word, the more I fell in love with the word, but I think so many of us 02:51.413 --> 02:56.724 [SPEAKER_00]: are kind of secretly, we wouldn't tell anybody this, but we secretly believe it's boring or not for it. 02:57.225 --> 02:58.587 [SPEAKER_00]: Because we just don't understand it. 02:59.189 --> 03:12.375 [SPEAKER_00]: And if we just do a little bit of digging into what do I not understand, what is going on here in the text, who wrote it when, why all those kinds of basic things, it actually makes the word come alive and it really just exists online to invite people into that journey. 03:12.355 --> 03:17.041 [SPEAKER_00]: of a lifelong feasting and be truly being like change and love the word of God. 03:17.061 --> 03:21.407 [SPEAKER_00]: I think so many of us sit at work and we're like, I cannot wait to get home and watch my favorite show. 03:21.687 --> 03:27.514 [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot wait to get home, pop my feet up on the couch and rest or scroll or craft or whatever it is, right? 03:27.895 --> 03:31.900 [SPEAKER_00]: But a few of us are like, I cannot wait to get home and study, love it at kiss. 03:31.880 --> 03:33.081 [SPEAKER_00]: And why is that, right? 03:33.161 --> 03:40.348 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we view it as this old ancient document that's super boring, but there's actually, like really good, like the gospels in there as well. 03:40.368 --> 03:43.070 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's really good news for us, life changing news. 03:43.250 --> 03:50.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Stuff that will absolutely change the way that we go to work tomorrow morning or pack our kids lunches in the morning or whatever else. 03:50.176 --> 03:55.241 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it does change every aspect of our lives and guide isn't dissent and far away and hard to understand. 03:55.421 --> 03:59.285 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think so many of us just need that patient and the first couple steps. 03:59.705 --> 04:01.887 [SPEAKER_00]: I think so many of us believe that's a guide's club. 04:01.867 --> 04:10.660 [SPEAKER_00]: If you know Greek and Hebrew, if you're one of the scholars, if you go to seminary, if you're a pastor, then you can just open up the Bible confidently and know what's going on. 04:10.700 --> 04:11.661 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just not true. 04:11.982 --> 04:21.175 [SPEAKER_00]: If you've got a Bible on your nightstands, if you have the Bible and your house, you are called on this life long journey and this is your permission to start that and to actually expect to love it. 04:21.357 --> 04:24.381 [SPEAKER_00]: because I think so many of us don't actually expect to love it. 04:24.421 --> 04:25.783 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't actually expect to enjoy it. 04:26.083 --> 04:27.965 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the obvious of that spoils things, right? 04:27.985 --> 04:32.571 [SPEAKER_00]: Like obviously if you go into it with a really negative expectation, you're going to get negativity back out. 04:32.611 --> 04:39.299 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you expect to find the Lord, expect to bring to change your life, expect to love it, and expect to find righteousness, you'll actually find that. 04:39.439 --> 04:42.123 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's actually really cool and really good and really fine. 04:42.143 --> 04:43.905 [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's how we call ourselves with our own nerds. 04:43.970 --> 04:49.718 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I love that you have such a passion for scripture and for studying scripture and making it come alive for people. 04:50.299 --> 05:04.358 [SPEAKER_01]: Your channel is just fun, like it's a it's fun, which you don't see that often, you know, like you think about studying the Bible and you're like, I'm going to get this book that has a very beautiful image on it, you know, and it is kind of like, okay, or you know, I'm like, it can get. 05:04.338 --> 05:10.026 [SPEAKER_01]: kind of dry feeling and I love that you want to make it accessible and exciting for people. 05:10.206 --> 05:15.494 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know before we get into our listeners, what excites you most about studying the Bible? 05:15.614 --> 05:19.440 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, honestly, this is going to sound a little bit like an eye roll to some of you. 05:19.460 --> 05:26.089 [SPEAKER_00]: Or a moment to realize, I mean, but honestly, the fact that I'll never scratch past the surface is really exciting for me. 05:26.430 --> 05:33.079 [SPEAKER_00]: Like out of all the generations that have gone before me, I am a child or a grandchild of Polish immigrants. 05:33.228 --> 06:03.167 [SPEAKER_00]: my great-grandmother came over as a male order bride from Poland, and they lived in a very Polish community for the next two generations, and then I'm kind of like first-gen protestant, first-gen like truly not basically 100% Polish, and none of the women before me had education, none of them really had any resources, they went to like mass and didn't understand anything, and so it really excites me to, you know, get multiple degrees to spend the rest of my life 06:03.147 --> 06:29.931 [SPEAKER_00]: to discover in God's Word and that I'll never scratch past the surface and that I can gobble it up and it gobble me up and change me from the inside out and it's truly just that alive and active and I think so for so long I viewed it as this kind of boring like I said earlier kind of just thing for people that know Greek and Hebrew and then it was like this intimidating thing and then it was this thing that I needed to conquer and none of those new points are true 06:29.911 --> 06:34.726 [SPEAKER_00]: dwelling richly in us and having us like changing us and I love that imagery. 06:34.967 --> 06:39.280 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's probably what excites me the most is now I have scholar friends that you know. 06:39.395 --> 06:48.407 [SPEAKER_00]: No, all the Greek and Hebrew literally write the Greek textbooks, and even they don't know everything, and they're like, yeah, let's just cover that together, let's be so in the word together, and that makes me really excited. 06:48.627 --> 06:50.009 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love that idea. 06:50.229 --> 06:55.396 [SPEAKER_01]: I went to seminary as well, and I feel like when I got there, my eyes were open to how little I knew. 06:56.097 --> 06:56.317 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 06:56.337 --> 07:04.508 [SPEAKER_01]: And then how little I was ever going to know, and now I tell people all the time, I'm like, I just can't wait to get to heaven and find out like, 07:04.488 --> 07:08.095 [SPEAKER_01]: some of the things I got right, some of the things that I'm like, whoa, had no idea. 07:08.256 --> 07:15.390 [SPEAKER_01]: And then some of the things I just got totally wrong, because there's just so much in there and you can't even scratch the surface. 07:15.591 --> 07:17.434 [SPEAKER_01]: God's word and his heart and his truth. 07:17.474 --> 07:19.138 [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a good reminder. 07:19.238 --> 07:21.282 [SPEAKER_01]: But that isn't supposed to be an intimidating thing. 07:22.004 --> 07:22.445 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 07:22.465 --> 07:23.286 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no. 07:23.326 --> 07:28.093 [SPEAKER_00]: In like a really good in inviting like this is a journey life long and yeah, kind of thing. 07:28.373 --> 07:29.314 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely. 07:29.435 --> 07:38.007 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so maybe someone who is feeling intimidated and they're like, that sounds like too much for me or if someone's feeling stuck, like, I'm kind of told you before we started recording it. 07:38.027 --> 07:42.293 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's kind of especially with parents, especially with moms who are busy and they're tired. 07:42.553 --> 07:47.320 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's really easy to get into the habit of either letting your Bible 07:47.300 --> 07:53.470 [SPEAKER_01]: or you do your Bible study, but it's kind of like you just check the box and you're like, okay, I did it. 07:54.031 --> 08:00.962 [SPEAKER_01]: Access, moving out with my day and you don't necessarily like internalize it or let it really change you or excite you. 08:01.062 --> 08:05.829 [SPEAKER_01]: So how speak a little on that and then maybe like how can we get energized about? 08:06.010 --> 08:12.480 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think a lot of us have been told kind of indirectly that 08:12.460 --> 08:19.359 [SPEAKER_00]: that it's like scotch it off your to-do list and move on pat yourself on your back feel good about yourself and move on and it's in right away the morning. 08:20.142 --> 08:27.482 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah yeah that it has to be in the morning it has to be with the co-co-coffee and you cannot get interrupted or then it's not a good 08:27.462 --> 08:30.108 [SPEAKER_00]: and if you don't take a picture on Instagram, then it didn't really happen. 08:30.489 --> 08:34.498 [SPEAKER_00]: But truly, have these like, we have a really in a box, our view of Bible study. 08:34.598 --> 08:43.277 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, the word has not been printed document for nearly as long as it was publicly shared orally. 08:43.257 --> 08:47.583 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a very modern and new idea to think that I wake up in the morning. 08:47.663 --> 08:51.088 [SPEAKER_00]: I read my Bible and interrupted with a couple of coffee and it's my personal Bible. 08:51.168 --> 08:54.372 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a very narcissistic modern concept. 08:54.392 --> 08:59.599 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the Bible is for all people for the longest of time shared communally. 08:59.619 --> 09:02.463 [SPEAKER_00]: Like altogether to be for all of us in a community. 09:02.523 --> 09:07.950 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's not just this me centric like stroke my ego feel super pious. 09:07.990 --> 09:09.412 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we've on with my day kind of action. 09:09.432 --> 09:12.977 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, even it says that we just kind of think that that's. 09:12.957 --> 09:15.060 [SPEAKER_00]: like we've been kind of, what's the word I'm thinking of? 09:15.080 --> 09:19.686 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we're told that without actual words, but we're kind of like in Christian culture, we view it that way. 09:20.087 --> 09:24.092 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I would encourage you to take a sit back and ask yourself, what is the Bible? 09:24.433 --> 09:25.414 [SPEAKER_00]: Like really what is it? 09:25.614 --> 09:29.400 [SPEAKER_00]: I argue in my book that Bible is a story of God redeeming his people for his glory. 09:29.500 --> 09:33.705 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a story of God redeeming his people for his glory. 09:34.046 --> 09:34.887 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a story about God. 09:35.248 --> 09:36.309 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even about us. 09:36.569 --> 09:38.492 [SPEAKER_00]: While it is full of us. 09:38.472 --> 09:40.175 [SPEAKER_00]: It definitely changes us. 09:40.275 --> 09:43.220 [SPEAKER_00]: It transforms us and changes every part of our lives. 09:43.641 --> 09:44.602 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not about us. 09:44.622 --> 09:45.784 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we are not the main character. 09:45.804 --> 09:46.325 [SPEAKER_00]: He is. 09:46.566 --> 09:57.223 [SPEAKER_00]: And so when we go into Bible study and just try to check the box, just trying to stroke our egos and feel a little bit more pious or holy, it's a really self-centered, selfish use of something that's not even about us. 09:57.304 --> 09:58.185 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about him. 09:58.165 --> 10:01.390 [SPEAKER_00]: And I argue in a book that it should really be worshipful. 10:01.790 --> 10:06.597 [SPEAKER_00]: If it's a story about God, then no matter where you are in the Bible, it's always revealing something about God. 10:06.617 --> 10:09.321 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's something you get to worship him about. 10:09.381 --> 10:16.291 [SPEAKER_00]: And that does affect the life decision to make how you live the lunches you pack for your kids, the way you jog down the road, all of those things. 10:16.551 --> 10:20.957 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's first like this God-centric reading of the Bible that then does change everything. 10:20.997 --> 10:26.485 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think we get really selfish and honestly, it's from a really brutal, I think we treat God like a many machine. 10:26.465 --> 10:31.449 [SPEAKER_00]: We open number of eyeballs and we're like, okay, I'm going to put in five minutes and then you're going to answer my prayer requests. 10:31.529 --> 10:35.327 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to let me know what man to marry, what house to buy or what job to take and it's like 10:35.611 --> 10:37.192 [SPEAKER_00]: That's again, in very selfish. 10:37.212 --> 10:38.554 [SPEAKER_00]: It's still us on the throne. 10:38.674 --> 10:40.195 [SPEAKER_00]: It's us controlling God, right? 10:40.215 --> 10:43.979 [SPEAKER_00]: It's us trying to stroke RE goes, trying to make ourselves feel better. 10:44.359 --> 10:47.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of genuinely this work for full, like Lord, I need you. 10:47.802 --> 10:51.666 [SPEAKER_00]: Just give me a little sliver of the hope that comes from you and your glory, Lord. 10:52.406 --> 11:01.054 [SPEAKER_00]: Just give me a small picture of who you are here in this passage in Joshua, Ruth, or the Gospels, or whatever, and letting it then work on us. 11:01.094 --> 11:02.255 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Hebrews 412 talks about. 11:02.275 --> 11:03.236 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a live and active. 11:03.256 --> 11:05.398 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's working on us even when we don't feel like it is. 11:05.378 --> 11:08.005 [SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, lots of rambles there, but those are my first thoughts. 11:08.346 --> 11:09.750 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that's really good, too. 11:09.890 --> 11:15.345 [SPEAKER_01]: I think frequently about how we, because we are human, and we only have so much of a view. 11:15.365 --> 11:15.726 [SPEAKER_01]: Because... 11:15.807 --> 11:22.233 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're human, but we so often interpret the Bible from our own point of view to, you know, like, you're from Texas. 11:22.354 --> 11:23.154 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm from Minnesota. 11:23.174 --> 11:24.055 [SPEAKER_01]: We're both American. 11:24.155 --> 11:28.420 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, but I, that's my worldview that I have because that's how I was born and raised. 11:28.440 --> 11:38.249 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, like, try to think of how it applies to me in that sense, but there's so much more like that's so limiting when you think of it just from your own perspective. 11:38.329 --> 11:41.933 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you think of it is got the story of God redeeming his people. 11:42.335 --> 11:48.227 [SPEAKER_01]: that opens up a totally different way to look at the same scriptures, which is also kind of what makes it interesting because 11:49.169 --> 11:56.298 [SPEAKER_01]: you kind of are going to go back and forth between that just because of the nature of who we are, but that's why scripture is so interesting because you can see it differently all the time. 11:56.378 --> 11:57.680 [SPEAKER_01]: And God reveals so many things. 11:58.241 --> 12:00.103 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen, that will preach. 12:00.123 --> 12:00.664 [SPEAKER_00]: So true. 12:01.025 --> 12:15.143 [SPEAKER_00]: And God redeeming, God buying us back, God granting us to himself is something that is convicting every single day of our lives, no matter who we are on what continent of the world, that is encouraging, that is convicting that should send us to our knees. 12:15.123 --> 12:22.311 [SPEAKER_00]: So no matter where you are in the Bible, no matter what country you live in, no matter what your world view is, your heritage, nothing, no matter what season of life you're in. 12:22.672 --> 12:27.818 [SPEAKER_00]: That is always something that rejuvenates the way that you see the world, if you interact with the world and you're responding worship. 12:27.998 --> 12:29.039 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely. 12:29.179 --> 12:41.333 [SPEAKER_01]: So if somebody is listening, like what would be a really good step that they could take or a couple steps to start reading the Bible from a place of worship, from a place where they're like seeking to be changed. 12:41.448 --> 12:44.720 [SPEAKER_01]: Scouts maybe out of the habits that they already have or the habits that they want. 12:45.101 --> 12:49.838 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe some listeners are like I haven't even started this because I don't I don't know I don't know to do 12:51.556 --> 13:01.132 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think no matter what, either one of those views, you have this desire to know God in his word, which is, we need it, like this is really important that we identify this. 13:01.513 --> 13:06.622 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a God desire, that's not a human desire, that's not a pagan desire, that's not from the world. 13:07.103 --> 13:09.667 [SPEAKER_00]: That's only a desire that God can put in our hearts. 13:10.268 --> 13:14.796 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you have that desire, that's a desire God placed in your heart, that means God's God's God's God. 13:14.776 --> 13:16.459 [SPEAKER_00]: calling you to himself. 13:16.719 --> 13:19.284 [SPEAKER_00]: That means God will equip, he groups like all right. 13:19.584 --> 13:28.199 [SPEAKER_00]: So God will lead you on this journey exactly as you are to wrestle through scripture and maybe start reading plan and then quit it and then restart it and then whatever that looks like, right? 13:28.500 --> 13:31.705 [SPEAKER_00]: A God will do his amazing beautiful plan in your life. 13:31.905 --> 13:34.590 [SPEAKER_00]: But first we need to identify the fact that God's calling you to it. 13:34.570 --> 13:44.489 [SPEAKER_00]: And once we understand, it got us called us to this journey and invited us on this journey that kind of gets rid of the fear or the intimidation and we get to just start. 13:44.629 --> 13:46.693 [SPEAKER_00]: I encourage people to start a fresh in the Gospels. 13:46.713 --> 13:48.216 [SPEAKER_00]: That's like always my reason for that. 13:49.097 --> 13:54.648 [SPEAKER_00]: The Gospels are just amazing because they're written like very similar to kind of like how we are. 13:54.668 --> 13:56.511 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you don't have to know anything about the Exodus. 13:56.491 --> 14:02.859 [SPEAKER_00]: or the exile or Babylon or Persia or anything to understand the basics of what's going on in the gospel. 14:02.899 --> 14:08.186 [SPEAKER_00]: So, just presenting testimony, I witness accounts of the person and work of Jesus. 14:08.286 --> 14:16.537 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, I wonder what season of life you're in, you can always open up to any of the four gospels and be transformed by them as they reveal Christ in his personal work. 14:16.557 --> 14:17.098 [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, 14:17.365 --> 14:19.007 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the Gospels for that. 14:19.027 --> 14:20.389 [SPEAKER_00]: It's that they're a great reset button. 14:20.770 --> 14:29.762 [SPEAKER_00]: And no matter what season you're in, what questions you're asking, like what job should I take, what man should I marry, what house should I buy, what problem I should handle with my kid, however, whatever. 14:29.782 --> 14:31.264 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's usually my perk questions. 14:31.284 --> 14:32.786 [SPEAKER_00]: Lord, how should I handle this problem with the kids? 14:32.806 --> 14:32.986 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 14:33.687 --> 14:38.274 [SPEAKER_00]: And then it will always inform those decisions because your eyes are on Christ. 14:38.494 --> 14:42.259 [SPEAKER_00]: And he does penetrate all of those daily issues in questions. 14:42.239 --> 14:44.683 [SPEAKER_00]: but it's in his person and work. 14:44.704 --> 14:47.208 [SPEAKER_00]: So who he is and what he did. 14:47.268 --> 14:52.638 [SPEAKER_00]: The cross should undeniably affect every single one of our micro and macro decisions of make every single day. 14:52.678 --> 15:05.682 [SPEAKER_00]: And so how I think is truly just a simple as asking, okay Lord, what are you revealing about yourself today in this passage, in this Bible verse, in this paragraph, whatever, and then faithfully every single day just come back and say, I want to have my eyes on you, will 15:05.662 --> 15:06.783 [SPEAKER_00]: and look just for him. 15:06.863 --> 15:14.934 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, then talk to him about your questions, your problems, all those things, but first with your eyes on the Lord, that sets everything else in its rightful place. 15:15.214 --> 15:21.041 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love their minder to start in the Gospels too, because sometimes I feel like, we try to overcomplicate everything. 15:21.402 --> 15:23.124 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, the fans see are the better. 15:24.145 --> 15:25.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, totally, totally. 15:26.428 --> 15:27.710 [SPEAKER_01]: It has to be chronological. 15:27.730 --> 15:28.971 [SPEAKER_01]: I just got from page one. 15:29.051 --> 15:29.732 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 15:29.752 --> 15:29.892 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 15:29.912 --> 15:30.052 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 15:30.213 --> 15:34.538 [SPEAKER_01]: And we try to jump into like a whole year and you're like, maybe just like a six weeks. 15:34.720 --> 15:37.623 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I hit numbers and I'm like, what have I done? 15:38.004 --> 15:39.325 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know I get it. 15:39.345 --> 15:41.708 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we need to be a lot more gracious with ourselves. 15:41.908 --> 15:47.254 [SPEAKER_00]: And if we hit those wells, you know, be real with ourselves and be like, this is actually just encouraging me for my Bible reading. 15:47.294 --> 15:50.057 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I should go back to the person of work of Christ and go back to the gospel. 15:50.077 --> 15:51.139 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a reset whenever. 15:51.459 --> 15:51.719 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 15:51.739 --> 15:52.000 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:52.400 --> 15:54.743 [SPEAKER_01]: How has your Bible study? 15:54.763 --> 16:00.289 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, study habits changed since you become a mom and as your kids have gotten older too. 16:01.045 --> 16:05.310 [SPEAKER_01]: Because every season of parenting changes that, for sure, that's really. 16:05.570 --> 16:13.179 [SPEAKER_00]: When they were infants, it was like, they're in the basket right next me or I'm wearing them and it's going to be short and sweet. 16:13.459 --> 16:22.710 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a very emotional because I'm dealing with all my postpartum hormones and it's going to be a lot of prayer reflection after like a lot of, I'm big about prayer journaling. 16:22.730 --> 16:28.977 [SPEAKER_00]: So I can't really like, I don't have a good prayer life if I can't write it down because as you guys can probably tell in very squarely so I lose track of my thoughts and stuff. 16:28.957 --> 16:34.569 [SPEAKER_00]: But if I'm writing things down, it's very therapeutic, I get it like a record of what I've prayed and how he's answered all of that. 16:35.010 --> 16:41.324 [SPEAKER_00]: So, in like postpartum era, it was shorter, like reflective Bible studies. 16:41.966 --> 16:45.333 [SPEAKER_00]: As they got older and started going to school, they've gotten longer. 16:45.634 --> 16:49.041 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was like four or five years ago, I started reading through the Bible in a year. 16:49.021 --> 17:15.670 [SPEAKER_00]: and just did that for the last five years, just two, three chapters a day, and I wouldn't even necessarily encourage people to do that if they don't have a regular Bible study, but that worked for me for a really long time just to get down those basics of the typical narrative and answer my son's questions about Moses or Ray have or whatever, but it definitely has looked different in all different seasons in the summer, like when the boys are home from school and I've got them all day in my ear going, mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm 17:15.650 --> 17:17.794 [SPEAKER_00]: Mom, he's always like, oh, you know, like all that stuff. 17:18.075 --> 17:19.277 [SPEAKER_00]: It will be like, think the war. 17:19.337 --> 17:20.138 [SPEAKER_00]: We live out on the country. 17:20.158 --> 17:21.160 [SPEAKER_00]: And I can just send them outside. 17:21.200 --> 17:22.302 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, don't feed the goats. 17:22.984 --> 17:24.346 [SPEAKER_00]: Go explore on the woods. 17:24.366 --> 17:25.869 [SPEAKER_00]: Mommy needs ten minutes with Jesus. 17:26.290 --> 17:29.155 [SPEAKER_00]: If we are second-sided, it's a rainy day or cold day or whatever. 17:29.255 --> 17:30.638 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, grab some crayons. 17:30.718 --> 17:32.882 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to Bible study with me next to me. 17:33.082 --> 17:35.346 [SPEAKER_00]: And they know I turned on some jazzy music. 17:35.406 --> 17:38.271 [SPEAKER_00]: And for some reason, I don't know if it's our ADHD or what. 17:38.331 --> 17:41.716 [SPEAKER_00]: But when there's like music filling the space, they do nag a little bit less. 17:42.137 --> 17:45.783 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I turn on like jazzy therapeutic music. 17:45.924 --> 17:50.952 [SPEAKER_00]: And I get to do my little Bible say, typically a shorter and more mentioned erupted, but they color or craft next to me. 17:50.992 --> 17:51.613 [SPEAKER_00]: And it works. 17:51.695 --> 17:55.079 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, truly, it depends on the day, depends on the month, depends on the season. 17:55.279 --> 17:55.699 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 17:55.719 --> 18:06.551 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's so important to recognize that it changes, you know, and it's going to look different for people, babies, then kids at home for the summer, and it's okay for it to change as you go week to week, even. 18:08.053 --> 18:09.094 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Lord is not shaming us. 18:09.154 --> 18:11.557 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not like, be more do more show up. 18:11.597 --> 18:12.878 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like he knows we're not enough. 18:12.898 --> 18:14.841 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why he is more than enough for us. 18:14.881 --> 18:16.082 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the whole point that across. 18:16.433 --> 18:20.459 [SPEAKER_00]: And so if you have like insecurities about that, that's a perfect place to take them as like the Lord. 18:20.619 --> 18:24.765 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, what I feel like I'm not enough because I can only Bible study for five minutes today. 18:24.785 --> 18:26.087 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I was even fully present. 18:26.107 --> 18:27.769 [SPEAKER_00]: I was really emotional like talk to him about that. 18:27.789 --> 18:29.752 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a perfect place to take all of those things. 18:29.952 --> 18:31.534 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not asking for our work. 18:31.554 --> 18:32.435 [SPEAKER_00]: He's asking for our worship. 18:32.676 --> 18:35.500 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a check the box performance. 18:35.520 --> 18:37.142 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like I said worship. 18:37.240 --> 18:37.561 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:37.902 --> 18:41.090 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk a little bit about because there are so many babbles that he's out there. 18:41.210 --> 18:45.962 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we kind of, you know, I have started and quit so many because I'm like, I don't like this one. 18:46.162 --> 18:49.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, I've obviously completed a lot as well. 18:49.930 --> 18:51.211 [SPEAKER_01]: there's a lot out there. 18:51.272 --> 18:53.774 [SPEAKER_01]: So how do you think it's best to discern? 18:54.195 --> 18:55.096 [SPEAKER_01]: What is trustworthy? 18:55.136 --> 18:55.897 [SPEAKER_01]: What is helpful? 18:55.957 --> 18:59.941 [SPEAKER_01]: Of all of these resources teachers, they're even the ton of study methods. 18:59.982 --> 19:01.643 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there are people telling you how to study it. 19:01.684 --> 19:02.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Like how do you know which one's right? 19:02.985 --> 19:04.827 [SPEAKER_01]: Like how do you discern that and what is good? 19:05.047 --> 19:05.408 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 19:05.428 --> 19:07.050 [SPEAKER_00]: And cards on the table like let's be real. 19:07.210 --> 19:08.692 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm adding to the chaos online. 19:08.712 --> 19:09.793 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm adding to it. 19:09.933 --> 19:13.457 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm you know throwing out my Bible so he dips in that 19:13.437 --> 19:29.320 [SPEAKER_00]: I think ultimately at the end of the day because of the Lord's extreme amazing sovereignty, we can rest first in his power and his ability to work in through and despite even the most problematic things or teachers at times. 19:29.300 --> 19:37.749 [SPEAKER_00]: He has been faithful to work in doing despite the most problematic teachers or weird doctrines throughout the church history. 19:37.769 --> 19:39.010 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, he's always retaining. 19:39.110 --> 19:40.812 [SPEAKER_00]: So for sure, he redeems the brokenness. 19:41.192 --> 19:44.296 [SPEAKER_00]: But God is a God who works in through and despite. 19:44.356 --> 19:53.005 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think a lot of us operate out of a fear mentality when we're looking for our next Bible study instead of a rest and trust and worship mentality. 19:53.205 --> 19:58.851 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do think it is a legitimate fear at times when we're dealing with like 19:58.831 --> 20:01.955 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not about the charity or whatever you're like, okay, okay, come on. 20:02.316 --> 20:10.587 [SPEAKER_00]: So what we talk about in theological circles is there's lower case O orthodoxy, and then there's like the whole like denomination capital orthodox. 20:10.707 --> 20:17.616 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not talking about the denomination here, but we have basic lower case O orthodox doctrines of the faith. 20:17.596 --> 20:22.025 [SPEAKER_00]: like the Trinity, like Christ being 100% man 100% God. 20:22.266 --> 20:30.944 [SPEAKER_00]: Substitutionary atonement, doctrine of hell, like all these things that inform the way that we understand the gospel and again, the personal work of Christ. 20:31.044 --> 20:35.554 [SPEAKER_00]: And so as long as someone or their Bible study whatever falls within those realms, 20:35.534 --> 20:40.144 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get super nitpicky about like, oh, they're egalitarian versus complementary. 20:40.245 --> 20:43.793 [SPEAKER_00]: And oh, they're more Methodist than I am or more reformed. 20:44.033 --> 20:50.788 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get super stressed out about those things, just because I'm, well, probably because I'm a little bit more mature. 20:50.809 --> 20:53.695 [SPEAKER_00]: My faith and I understand those denominational differences. 20:53.675 --> 20:58.062 [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to encourage people that they can study those differences. 20:58.423 --> 21:03.791 [SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't have to be this fear, Phil, Judgi, Christians, condemning Christians thing. 21:03.851 --> 21:15.329 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we can have distinguishable differences across the aisle from other believers, like on baptism or discernments in general and not condemn each other. 21:15.370 --> 21:18.214 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I encourage people 21:19.325 --> 21:25.514 [SPEAKER_00]: to not be scared, but to know what you believe and why and understand what other people believe and why. 21:25.574 --> 21:47.965 [SPEAKER_00]: And if someone listening keeps budding up into these differences and getting stressed out and fearful, go back to what you know your denominational preferences are and stay in that lane, but begin exploring why do they believe this about baptism or this, about transubstantiation or whatever, you know, let's have this conversation because I do believe you're smart enough to do it. 21:48.147 --> 21:55.237 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was talking about earlier, we're the first generation with the most education, the most resources, the most ability to study the Bible deeply than ever before. 21:55.758 --> 21:58.522 [SPEAKER_00]: And I truly believe you're called to it, especially if you're listening to his podcast. 21:58.722 --> 21:59.263 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:59.283 --> 22:03.449 [SPEAKER_01]: I really like what you said about making a decision based off of fear instead of rest. 22:03.870 --> 22:08.557 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel the rest in who God is and what he's done for us and the work on the cross. 22:08.897 --> 22:13.063 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that applies not just to Bible study, but to literally every now and then. 22:13.083 --> 22:14.425 [SPEAKER_00]: That'll preach, that's so good. 22:14.776 --> 22:19.344 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really do think, yeah, that restful, worshipful, Lord, you are in control. 22:19.504 --> 22:29.200 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've learned the most from studying for people that I actually disagree with a lot, but they helped me identify my differences by going, why do they keep using this word dispensation? 22:29.360 --> 22:30.402 [SPEAKER_00]: What is a dispensation? 22:30.863 --> 22:32.245 [SPEAKER_00]: How does that change your theology? 22:32.225 --> 22:34.268 [SPEAKER_00]: and studying kind of like backwards. 22:34.589 --> 22:36.152 [SPEAKER_00]: Why did I keep using these words? 22:36.192 --> 22:40.038 [SPEAKER_00]: These phrases are houses different from what I believe, and then how kind of distinguished. 22:40.399 --> 22:42.482 [SPEAKER_00]: If it's substantial or not, you know. 22:42.783 --> 22:43.023 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:43.344 --> 22:43.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:43.664 --> 22:52.119 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you keep relying on God and going back to again, what you know is true and what you're convicted of, like that curiosity is not going to shatter your faith. 22:52.139 --> 22:53.020 [SPEAKER_01]: And only make it stronger. 22:53.140 --> 22:54.423 [SPEAKER_01]: And you just get to be so knowledgeable. 22:54.583 --> 22:55.024 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 22:55.044 --> 22:57.608 [SPEAKER_00]: And when your kids have questions, you can answer that question. 22:57.588 --> 23:00.852 [SPEAKER_00]: When you go buy a church, you're kids like, why do they have all these pictures we were in? 23:00.872 --> 23:03.876 [SPEAKER_00]: Where we're in Naples, Italy, and we walk in a Catholic church. 23:04.216 --> 23:06.599 [SPEAKER_00]: And my son goes, they have a lot of pictures of a woman. 23:06.940 --> 23:08.021 [SPEAKER_00]: Who was that woman? 23:08.502 --> 23:09.443 [SPEAKER_00]: Do they think she's a guy? 23:09.463 --> 23:11.465 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, let's talk about it. 23:11.505 --> 23:14.349 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Mary, you know, and we got to get into it. 23:14.709 --> 23:25.823 [SPEAKER_00]: Not because I'm condemning my Catholic brothers and sisters, you know, like I said, I come from, just as a generation before it was very Catholic, but rather because I want my child to have conviction for distinctives. 23:26.157 --> 23:33.246 [SPEAKER_00]: and for distinctives that we're convicted for so he can rightly discern his personal convictions and theology and go back to scripture and wrestle with it and all those things. 23:33.507 --> 23:33.967 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:33.987 --> 23:34.127 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 23:34.167 --> 23:46.123 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to end on that note kind of let's talk a little bit about kids and setting the Bible because like how they have all the questions that sometimes we know the answers to and sometimes we're like, I don't know, that was a hard one. 23:46.624 --> 23:49.127 [SPEAKER_01]: But how have you and your parenting so far? 23:49.187 --> 23:50.629 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you have a long ways to go. 23:51.014 --> 23:53.978 [SPEAKER_01]: and you're here in Ding, and their faith is always evolving. 23:53.998 --> 23:56.482 [SPEAKER_01]: But how have you gotten your kids excited about the Bible? 23:56.562 --> 24:00.047 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe feeling like it's something that they want to do in some obligation. 24:00.067 --> 24:00.909 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they're not there yet. 24:00.969 --> 24:01.570 [SPEAKER_01]: They're young boy. 24:01.670 --> 24:02.351 [SPEAKER_01]: I have two boys. 24:02.471 --> 24:02.831 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. 24:04.133 --> 24:05.876 [SPEAKER_01]: But how have you approached that with your kid? 24:06.056 --> 24:07.879 [SPEAKER_00]: We are so blessed. 24:07.999 --> 24:10.322 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, my husband's a pastor and I do ministry online. 24:10.503 --> 24:15.610 [SPEAKER_00]: So my kids, there's not like a dinner that we don't talk about something theological. 24:15.891 --> 24:19.536 [SPEAKER_00]: And so they were so blessed in that day really 24:19.516 --> 24:28.007 [SPEAKER_00]: get to see how faith is integrated in so much of our lives, like Daddy and I love to talk about theology at the dinner table or unpack things. 24:28.107 --> 24:36.858 [SPEAKER_00]: And so a lot of times the conversations and discipleship that we have, some of the boys actually start in initiate or they just see us doing it. 24:36.878 --> 24:40.643 [SPEAKER_00]: And so they ask questions about it, like tithing or the morning Bible studies. 24:41.143 --> 24:44.848 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I was raised in a family that was very nominally Christian. 24:45.082 --> 24:55.396 [SPEAKER_00]: parents basically decided to go back to church because they had kids and there is a catholic very, very loosely and just didn't know what they believed in why and so I never grew up watching my parents back with study. 24:55.456 --> 25:00.524 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I knew more than them like the allegedly speaking probably by fourth grade like Max. 25:00.684 --> 25:03.748 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I just was raised in the church unlike them and so 25:03.728 --> 25:07.915 [SPEAKER_00]: They had a lot more education in the church and theological backing and things like that. 25:07.935 --> 25:11.181 [SPEAKER_00]: And so they were not the people I went to when I had questions around baptism. 25:11.501 --> 25:16.911 [SPEAKER_00]: They were not the people I went to when I really wanted to struggle with, you know, scripture and air are not. 25:16.951 --> 25:20.437 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like those big life changing questions, they weren't the people I went to. 25:20.837 --> 25:28.290 [SPEAKER_00]: But I want my boys to always feel safe to go with me with their deepest darkest most scary questions, especially around the faith. 25:28.310 --> 25:28.791 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, 25:28.771 --> 25:41.470 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's important to not pose ourselves as people who have all the answers, but rather as fellow students alongside them, like, I'm honest with my boys, you know, they know I'm smart, you know, like, let's be real. 25:41.571 --> 25:49.282 [SPEAKER_00]: They know Mommy's smart, but I will be honest and be like, I actually can't remember that right now, or I actually don't know, let me look at that up, or Daddy, what is that again? 25:49.543 --> 25:57.495 [SPEAKER_00]: Daddy's really good about remembering everything, and just posing myself as forever a student of the word, forever a theological wrestler, 25:57.796 --> 26:02.843 [SPEAKER_00]: So that I never have to have it mastered, but we can always ask questions together. 26:02.883 --> 26:08.270 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, it goes back to that worshipful, heart state rather than a, I've conquered this heart state. 26:08.290 --> 26:11.735 [SPEAKER_00]: I have all the answers I know everything because I would just simply never will. 26:11.795 --> 26:14.779 [SPEAKER_00]: Though I am smart, I will never have all the answers that every day. 26:14.819 --> 26:21.829 [SPEAKER_00]: I get to invite my boys on that journey with them and really the invitation comes by them watching, like, oh, this is adulthood. 26:22.390 --> 26:22.690 [SPEAKER_00]: Is, 26:22.822 --> 26:25.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Adult Head is waking up in the morning and doing your opposite. 26:25.285 --> 26:27.267 [SPEAKER_00]: Adult Head is on sending mornings. 26:27.287 --> 26:28.708 [SPEAKER_00]: We pride ties Sunday school. 26:28.909 --> 26:35.296 [SPEAKER_00]: There was one day we were late and Danielle always goes to a church before us because he's passed or he's teaching it. 26:35.316 --> 26:37.258 [SPEAKER_00]: He needs to get there early turn the lights on all the things, right? 26:37.618 --> 26:39.100 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're always like running late. 26:39.340 --> 26:40.702 [SPEAKER_00]: We live far from our church. 26:40.782 --> 26:46.568 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a long drive and I'm always like going down the road like slapping on some mascara and just like barely getting there. 26:46.548 --> 26:59.663 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, there was one day we hit a red light and I started to like have a little tear because of like I'm gonna miss Sunday school and when he goes mommy, what if we just get like why do we have to go to send Sunday school to send my older son and it was like, why do you care so much about it? 26:59.843 --> 27:05.871 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was able to sit there and give him the testimony of it's not just like a school like we think of school. 27:05.931 --> 27:08.454 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just like education for education sake. 27:08.654 --> 27:09.455 [SPEAKER_00]: It changes me. 27:09.735 --> 27:13.099 [SPEAKER_00]: It sets up a heart for worship to then go into church afterwards. 27:13.339 --> 27:14.200 [SPEAKER_00]: I learned so much. 27:14.280 --> 27:15.762 [SPEAKER_00]: It transforms me week by week. 27:15.742 --> 27:20.008 [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to be there, and that's why we go every single day. 27:20.348 --> 27:25.616 [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought later, like, I have never heard an adult tell me that they want to go to Sunday school. 27:26.016 --> 27:28.840 [SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder, like, did that sound legalistic when I said that? 27:28.860 --> 27:30.563 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't want that either. 27:30.623 --> 27:39.275 [SPEAKER_00]: But genuinely, praise the Lord that I can say that and praise the Lord that I get to raise a boy who thinks that's what adults desire. 27:39.335 --> 27:40.236 [SPEAKER_00]: They look forward to. 27:40.276 --> 27:45.664 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to be late, too, is Sunday school. 27:45.644 --> 28:00.408 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it's such a good call out that just living out faith and just having faith be part so naturally part of your everyday family life that it doesn't feel like you're like there's no reserve time for faith in a family. 28:01.089 --> 28:02.672 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's so much power to that. 28:02.732 --> 28:09.002 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing this podcast a long time and I've talked to a lot of people and asking them things like 28:09.185 --> 28:35.103 [SPEAKER_01]: What did your parents do to encourage your faith or, you know, that just comes up naturally as we talk and so many of my guests have said I always woke up in my mom was doing her Bible study or my dad was always doing his Bible study, you know, like it was just this thing that was modeled and I think about that often that it doesn't have to be us having every single answer to all the complicated questions like you said I don't know I don't know let's find out together is a great answer. 28:35.143 --> 28:37.707 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a curious answer is an encouraging answer. 28:37.687 --> 28:44.917 [SPEAKER_01]: But just that modeling and being present and showing up and being like, this is my priority makes such a big impact on kids. 28:45.038 --> 28:47.201 [SPEAKER_01]: And I have heard it time and time again from people. 28:47.321 --> 28:53.470 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we just put so much pressure on ourselves to do it all right, when all we have to do is show up and God will take it from there. 28:53.610 --> 28:58.697 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, God has to capture your kids' hearts, but you get to model him having already captured yours. 28:59.098 --> 29:00.640 [SPEAKER_01]: And like, what a gift that that is. 29:00.620 --> 29:01.241 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen. 29:01.621 --> 29:02.522 [SPEAKER_00]: I totally agree. 29:02.562 --> 29:03.603 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 29:03.623 --> 29:03.844 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:04.284 --> 29:11.692 [SPEAKER_01]: Before we tell us a little bit about your book, where we can find it, about your YouTube, just how we connect with all of your things. 29:11.712 --> 29:25.227 [SPEAKER_00]: We have a book that just came out, number boring Bible study, and we basically just talk about like, I'm addressing the inner thoughts of our heart of we sometimes kind of believe the Bible's boring, and why it's not boring, you know, scriptures of life and act if it's working on us. 29:25.307 --> 29:29.952 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's really an introduction to what we call her mutix, the study of how we read and interpret. 29:29.932 --> 29:31.934 [SPEAKER_00]: and eventually applied the Bible to our lives. 29:32.055 --> 29:36.079 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, that's the book that kind of referenced on an office, I apologize. 29:36.119 --> 29:37.982 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so annoying with people doing that. 29:38.002 --> 29:42.467 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's fast, but you can find me everywhere as Bible in our ministries. 29:42.527 --> 29:47.994 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd love to get even more nerdy with y'all, but let me know that y'all came from the Christian Parenting Podcast. 29:48.214 --> 29:52.159 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll put everything in channels that people can find it easily and get connected. 29:52.339 --> 29:53.100 [SPEAKER_01]: But thank you so much. 29:53.120 --> 29:54.101 [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate your heart. 29:54.401 --> 29:59.027 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that people feel encouraged to study God's Word a little bit more. 29:59.007 --> 30:00.014 [SPEAKER_01]: Just dive right in. 30:00.074 --> 30:01.221 [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for being here. 30:01.242 --> 30:02.268 [SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate your time. 30:02.490 --> 30:03.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how thanks for having me. 30:05.707 --> 30:07.329 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for being here. 30:07.529 --> 30:08.470 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening. 30:08.550 --> 30:11.994 [SPEAKER_01]: I just love Faith's reminder that God's word is not something we conquer. 30:12.194 --> 30:15.858 [SPEAKER_01]: It's something that changes us little by little over a lifetime. 30:15.898 --> 30:22.866 [SPEAKER_01]: Friends, if you are feeling stuck, intimidated or just tired, I hope that this episode gave you permission to start small and start again. 30:22.906 --> 30:31.495 [SPEAKER_01]: Open your Bible, begin in the gospels, ask the simple question, Lord, what are you showing me about who you are today and let that just be enough? 30:31.897 --> 30:36.084 [SPEAKER_01]: You can find Faith's book no more boring Bible study and all of her resources linked in the show notes. 30:36.565 --> 30:38.407 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of them, so I got them lolling up for you. 30:38.488 --> 30:42.514 [SPEAKER_01]: And if this episode encouraged you, would you just share it with a friend or leave a quick review? 30:42.554 --> 30:46.781 [SPEAKER_01]: It helps more parents find this type of hope and practical help. 30:47.402 --> 30:48.464 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you again for listening. 30:48.484 --> 30:52.310 [SPEAKER_01]: As you go today, make a good, give you a fresh hunger for his word. 30:52.831 --> 30:56.757 [SPEAKER_01]: Peace when you feel behind and confidence that he meets you in small beginning.