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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey friends, Steph here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Christian Parenting podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am so glad that you're with me this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Today we are talking about saying yes to adventure with Dan and Sam at Matthews.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a really fun conversation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You might know Dan and Sam from their family videos and the way that they invite their kids into everyday moments that turn into life-long memories.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Today we get into things like RV life and Disney days and big trips, but also small, doable things that any family can try this weekend to create a little more adventure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can think creek exploring, backyard campouts, pizza nights, and the holy work of packing snacks and keeping attitudes in check.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We also talk about how adventure shapes family culture, grows resilience and points our kids to a God who meets us on the trail in the minivan and in the mess of family life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna hear some practical ideas to get unstuck from routine and start planning memory making moments that fit your real life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dan and Sam talk about all this and more in their new book always choose adventure and you can find a link to that in show notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So go check that out and while you're there if you could just take a moment to leave a reading and review for this podcast, it really helps other parents find us and I appreciate it so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm so glad that you agree with me today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, welcome to the Christian Parenting podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're pumped.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think this is going to be a fun conversation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've already covered quite a bit before recording, so then where it's going to record and just see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we get the question about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, can you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always just start jumping like right in to introduce yourselves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell us about your family, it tells what you do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just share a little bit about your journey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can get to know you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we are Dan and Sam.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have, um, we share a life online.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We are Dan and Sam.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have two kiddos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Canyon is almost nine and birth seven and we have one on the way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've done two circuse journeys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've lived in an RV full time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We traveled in it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We renovated RVs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We love travel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anything you can possibly think of that's crazy and wild.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've probably done it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we live in a house and so I feel like in the RV van life community we're sell out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a pool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we spend a lot of time in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're building Sam you're nesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're building all the furniture that you have to have a house for.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I want to redo rooms that we just redid like a year ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like building the furniture is the easy part dealing with all of the cardboard packaging is the difficult part.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like if they just had like a machine that shredded cardboard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I need to give a gift to like our trash guy and our recycled guy because they just they work over time for us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's so real though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think someone could make a fortune just hauling boxes away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or reusing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like probably better be like, you home away and then you reuse them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like all the Amazon boxes that come to my house are actually embarrassing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's the same.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're also fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We host a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a lot of people that will come from out town, stay here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, oh, we'll help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they take a whole box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not broken down and put it in the recycling bin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, you just took up 12 boxes worth of space.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I have a system, I got to do this right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, he uses a box cutter and box and cuts them down into like strips.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they like pack in there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You could put, he like 10X's his space and a dumpster just by doing that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, it works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's adult life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're worrying about cardboard disposal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's husband's life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and my wife is just chucking the box.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, garage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, it's like a pressing order.

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[SPEAKER_03]: shopping online, oh, that's so true, all right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's a little about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We like shopping.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're talking about all those things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Six or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been sharing and just choosing and adventure with your family and everything you're describing is that from living in our V and just living this wild fun life to a circuse journey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just been an adventure for you guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's such a

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[SPEAKER_02]: fun topic and kind of challenging.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like for me, I love an adventure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I love doing fun spontaneous unique things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We love traveling as a family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've found to some fun places.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the reality is is like school is a thing and activity is in jobs and you just settle into a routine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so and it's always easy to fall into that and then also and you're like, oh, we need to get out and adventure a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So tell us a little bit about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like why is embracing adventure?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think starting out for me, it was like the memory and the time with my family, I grew up with a single mom and so she worked several jobs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have some amazing memory of some fun camping trips going to visit our family, going to the beach, but I didn't get as much like day to day quality time with her because she was working.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just those like a couple times a year trips where those memories I still hold on to, but I wanted some more like daily memories.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that we wanted that with our kids and we wanted to not only have those yearly vacations with them, but in the small mundane, you know, ordinary day, how can we create those memories?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it building a four downstairs?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it playing in the mud outside or doing a slip and slide in our own yard?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or is it packing everything in our v and taking a trip?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, definitely just like the quality time with family that like in our new family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like with with our kids, they they're going to grow up and remember that we were present in the day to day, but those big trips and breaking out of the ordinary routine is what really sticks with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if we do build a tree for

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[SPEAKER_00]: or go on a family bike ride through the neighborhood, go to a spot that we've never been or a park or a cave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the things that when we talk to them, they'll just bring up, like, remember that time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We crawled in a cave and got really, really scared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're like, yep, we remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a bat in almost bit me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that's not quite what happened, but I'm glad you remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they crave that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, with us in doing social media and YouTube's, they're one of their favorite things to do now is watch our YouTube videos back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so for me, that like, that was in the form of my mom's printed pictures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She had literally millions of pictures that she had taken printed off, marked scrapbooked with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we would go back and look through those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, for the kids, they watch on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, we want to do that again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on a on a family side by side trip or camping trip or let's go float on the river.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just feel like anything that breaks out of the norm is what the big memories the lasting memories are going to be made for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Family.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a side I heard recently where it was like 90% of a child's memories are those adventures where it may not be going to London or something for a trip but it's like going camping as a family or going on you know a fun backyard adventure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: those are those core memories that stick with them for years that they look back on in a parenting side.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As a child, they don't see the hours of packing and unpacking and cleaning the car after a road trip or the meltdowns that they had.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I was in the car yesterday with the kids and we were talking about Disney.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We recently went on our first like family Disney trip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the kids loved it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like 10 out of 10 for them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dan and I were like, was like a five because it was, there was a lot of money involved.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was hot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pregnant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sweating.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Things were expensive to like get there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ken and had like 10 meltdowns in the first like two hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was a lot every store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted the first toy that he saw and I was like, wait, you might find something better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want this one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't like waiting in the lines, and so when we were driving yesterday talking about the kids wreck We love Disney can we go back and I was like can you and do you remember we had a couple meltdowns like twice in the dumble line Waiting for the ride.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, yeah, and I like do you realize that that probably wasn't you know Beaded at the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, yeah, I'm like, did you still like it have fun?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm like

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, we're not going to go back to this soon, but maybe eventually, but they don't, you know, they don't remember those things we do, but it's worth it to put aside those, the hard work that we put in as parents to make those trips possible because of the, they only see the good in a memory they only see we went to Disney and I got to eat popcorn and I got to ride these rides and I got to see my cousins and I got to spend time with my family like that's what matters.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it helps make the trip worth it and not as like draining in a sense on us as parents.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we we find Torlando to visit my sister and so we were like you know what I'm because we're way younger we're like we're gonna do a day at Disney and then go drive to see my sister and I mean like so many meltdowns but there's nothing like that parent solidarity when you're like yes I see your child having a meltdown

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I, I one boy was like just walking around the park.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My husband and the boys are riding rides and I was pushing Harriet in the stroller because she was taking a nap and I was just like walking around high-fiving parents who's kids were having meltdowns on like you're doing a great job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All our kids are crying, but this is fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're having a good time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't be mad at the parents who just kids are going crazy because you're like, five seconds ago, that was our child.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you're like, hey, we got you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm cheering you on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm praying for you because we're all, it's the village.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're all in this village.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're connects over times like that when he's freaking out or something major is happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're just like, this is our life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't want to be dealing with the meltdown with anyone but you right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do say that a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We say that anytime things are bad,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't want to go through this with anyone but you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't want to be broke with anyone else but you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't want to be wifey, dirty, diaper, or broken down on the side of the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and that's a thing with the adventure is there's always things that go wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, I thrive in those moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think something has to go wrong for it to be a really good adventure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and for us to remember it like those are the things that we're going to remember the most and even in the book, we talk the the whole book is kind of mixed in with the little we mentioned it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, tell us the book is coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only a couple weeks away, but it's called Always Shoes Adventure, and it's a story of our life just living through sacrifice and faith and really prioritizing the things in our lives that matter most.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And throughout the book, there's a story of a huge road trip, TV show, all kinds of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't give too much away, but we had multiple vehicles break down on this trip end up in a stranger's vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they gave it to us to take and we're like, what is happening right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we I remember looking back and just being broken down on the side of the road and Saying when I were like, well, that's what our day consists of like, oh well We're gonna get through it everything is gonna be good

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't do anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It happened.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what's already done is done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's like, how do you how do you move forward?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And how do you keep a good mindset and stuff?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You you typically are better at it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you like you said thrive in those iterations.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I tend to be a little bit more like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What are we gonna do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's calling AAA Navy SEALs everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like somebody's show up and help us right now But that is where all the memories come in like I feel like when I think about my own family like as a child All this traveling that we did where something went wrong like as adults now those are still the things that we talk about like it's not as much though like peak moments That we're remembering now

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now obviously those two, but it is like, I'm about this train ride, or like, when we were in the boundary water, it was pouring rain and it was horrible because I'm not super outdoorsy, it turns out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like, yeah, those are all good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So much that you can learn from those because obviously the adventures and the things that go wrong and the things that go right, there's a lot of unknown there and that's challenging and you have to work through that adversity and modeling that for your kids is so important and it can teach them so much about life in a really unique more hands-on way than just being like, this is how you change your tire, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's that great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in those moments there are so many learning lessons for the kids and They'll even bring that back up to us like dad remember when we learned about this and I'm like, yeah I do remember when you learn not to go to next to a business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one that's going to stick with you forever and I feel like that's where real life happens is when problems arise when you're out of your comfort zone and your kids get to see who you are as parents in a raw sense and see how you deal with those like when Sam and I have a disagreement the kids get to see that and how to deal with it in a healthy way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Versus the way that they handle it is just yell at each other and then come scream and cry to us And I'm like, no, this is how we deal with things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is how like I tell both the kids I ask both the kids all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say who can you control me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you can't control with the other kid, didn't or the person You know out in public did or your sister did you have to control you and how you handle it and so I feel like without that I mean with all good times how are your kids gonna

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[SPEAKER_00]: understand how to deal with things like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then those times we were like in our RV and they they ask all the time, when are we going to be, when are we going to go on a road trip again?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or when are we going to get to travel in the RV again?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They don't see those bad things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They just see, I mean, the fun that came from it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, learning so much from those experiences.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And how do you feel like some of the intentionality of living an adventure of life and experiencing just fun together has shaped your family culture or maybe influenced how your kids view God in life in their own faith?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so when we go on these adventures, I mean, everything that we do in life and as a family and communicating with the kids, it's all centered around our relationship with Christ and our view of who God is and the role that he plays in our lives and why work around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when we're out in nature and showing them things, they're asking questions and it's challenging for me too, because kids come up with some pretty deep questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: even know how to answer this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should probably know how to answer this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, but how did God make these mountains?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like, that's a great question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I get just bow, he can speak in these things come into existence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they talk about, they talk about heaven and they talk about why are some animals bad and some animals good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, it's incredible to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: their faith being realized and me not like enforcing the way that I view things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want them to creatively go about like exploring what faith is and who God is and who Jesus is and what they mean to us and not not that my parents like drilled things in to me but I realize that my relationship, my walking closeness with Christ started when I stopped doing things the way that my parents did them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that makes sense, it was a very

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[SPEAKER_00]: They encouraged relationship with Christ, but it was like when I made it my own, and I go, wait a minute, maybe that wasn't right, the way that my church taught it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I need to figure this out for myself, and so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I try to let the kids figure things out like that, explore things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, even when it's not a spiritual thing or religious thing, but just like, hey, you all close to that edge, you're gonna slip and it's gonna be really scary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can either tell you that now or I can let you experience that, and obviously if it's too dangerous, I don't, but I want them to experience consequences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want them to realize that there's things

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[SPEAKER_00]: and the best way for them to learn that is to actually experience it versus me tell them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I could tell them a hundred times the pants hot don't touch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first time they touch it and realize how hot it is, they'll never do it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, yeah, it's just kind of cool to see how the world view is, how the perception of pain or fear or anything like that come into play when you're out away from your house where they're used to everything around them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like on a less spiritual sign of things when we adventure causes us to like damage and work now in a house settle down and we still keep the same mindset as when we traveled and when we live small and an RV like we try to be very intentional about the things that we have in the home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: we joke before hopping on the call that we have four cabinets in our house right now, but I realized this other cabinet wasn't working for me and I needed a different one, but then it's like, how can I use those other cabinets to bless someone else to give to someone else?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need for it in my house.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So staying with like only what you need, what you're using, each item that comes in our house we want to

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[SPEAKER_03]: it to be used.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If we don't use things for like six to nine months, we always call like it like we're ready to declutter and do like a good will haul.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if it's not being used and it's in a box, it's gone because we don't, if we don't need it for that long, we're obviously not going to touch it for the next couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just taking up space and for me like the extra clutter and things that take up space for both of us causes like not, I don't know what to say anxiety but just like overwhelm where it's just not needed,

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[SPEAKER_03]: We still keep that same mindset from our adventures times or from our adventures in our home and in our life now even though it looks a little bit different than it used to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's cool to see the kids, like even when we talk about it, well, we could either spend three weeks on Facebook Marketplace trying to sell this stuff, or we could find somebody to bless it, bless with it, and so the kids when they're done with their toys, they're like, can we give these to another kid, and I'm like, yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like we do it before Christmas, we honestly do it probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say it's like once a month sometimes and then like three to four times a year for sure But they'll go through and it's just like getting rid of all their stuff and they're like so and so really like this Can I give it to him sure or their friends will come over and the friends come up to me and they're like hey uncle Dan can can I have this came in said I could have it And I was like if he said you can have it you can I like I don't care it's his toy if he doesn't want it And he wants you to have it absolutely

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's cool to see like the selfless acts that they perform based on the life that we've lived in and being an example of that to them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This came to mind again when we were talking about Disney and I was talking to the kids about Disney the other day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, okay, you guys had fun, but I'm like, would you rather go to Disney for a day like we did?

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[SPEAKER_03]: or would you rather go on a weekend camping trip where we're camping with our friends, we're getting a remote, do-smores, have glow sticks, and hang out for the weekend, which one?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like immediately, Amber was like, camping, I'm like, yes, that is way cheaper.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The way it was cute is that you know, yes, they had fun, but it kids are really simple.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you don't have to, you know, a lot of people don't have the means to go to Disney and spend thousands of dollars to like take this family trip out of state.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They just, they're so simple.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They just want like your time and like some imagination.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're happy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think so much of what we're saying is just like getting them out of routine and seeing something bigger than their own world, you know, like yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're in, I mean, this is another big adventure, but we're in Guatemala visiting some friends where missionaries and there are so much poverty there and so many stray dogs and our kids could not for the life of them figure out why there were so many like starving dogs and they're like, why don't people just bring their dogs in and feed them?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like, well honey, like, they can't feed their kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, the priorities here are different and that just opened up their

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, not everyone lives life like we do in America or not everyone gets to live and do these adventures and gets just good for them to see that their lives aren't necessarily normal compared to the rest of the world's like has followers of Jesus and how do you go out and live reflecting him with the means that you have and that's hard to do because kids are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're all selfish as human.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So getting them out is just so good for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in teaching them about things like tithing and giving to the church and missions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, we told the kids, we explained the concept of tithing, tried to help them to fully understand it, but at this age, it was pretty difficult.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, okay, so if I have $50, I will bring $5 to the church, I go, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they go, and then what do we do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, will we give it to the church?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they go, he's gonna be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, I mean, he's there every Sunday, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we give it to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it gives to the mission of Jesus and what Jesus wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, more than anything, he wants us to love Him and love others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way that we do that is we can give to all these different things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or when we were in the RV full time, hericane happened down in Florida in the same and I kind of looked at each other and we're like, should we go down?

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[SPEAKER_00]: like, let's go down and help in an organization that we had both worked for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were down there doing a response.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we just packed up the RV and just went drove all the, I think we were, we were in like, you taught or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: all the way across the country, but we called a couple of people we knew and said hey we're going to be down there, put it to work, tell us what you want us to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the kids getting to see that and like we want to hand out waters, we want to do this, we want to do that, going and seeing the actual warehouses where they store all this food and they're like what is all this, they have juice boxes, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many where they have nutty buddies and the guys like here you can have a couple and they're like what is all this for and we're like We're giving it to people who lost everything and they're like oh, I would definitely want this if I lost everything You know and so they get to see like missions at work in person or through the church or like Understand exactly how they can play a part in God's purpose

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[SPEAKER_00]: and and what he's doing already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just wild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like more than anything, we didn't get into social media to be famous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get into social media to make a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest thing for us is we wanted more time freedom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We wanted time with each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't want to have to call someone and say, hey, can I spend an extra day this weekend with my family?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like I shouldn't have to ask permission for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we said, let's start working for ourselves and then once she started documenting things on social media, it kind of kicked off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at that point, I realized that that needs to be our priority is what our time is spent doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, it's never been chasing anything else, other than time freedom, time spent with each other, time spent with the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now our kids don't have any concept of time at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, it's funny because for me, I grew up with a single earth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I grew up with a mom in the house and a dad that drove truck over the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was like maybe five, six days, he'd be gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he'd be back, get a good night arrest and leave early the next morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for our kids, it's like, if we don't play with them every other hour, they're like, you never play with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, well, you have no idea what never play with your means.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You have a really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, it doesn't matter how much of our time they have, they always want more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I want them to crave time as a family, to not just like have to have something distracting them or entertaining them, but to like actually enjoy time with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, they get more time with us than

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[SPEAKER_00]: At this point, probably more time with us than I had in my whole childhood, like, the full 18 years I was in the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just really cool to build that connection to like, no our kids to know what they want, not just what they need, not just X1 and Z, but like, I know my kids and it feels really cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, we've talked about some adventures, like some big adventures that we've done, but I also like preparing for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was starting to think like, you know, while we were free weekend, and we should probably like, go go on a hike and find the waterfall this weekend or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, there's so many little things that you can do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So talk to the person who's listening, he's like, okay, well, I'm not going to Disney tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to Guatemala.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to get an RV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are, this is not, I work nine to five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like so what are some like small adventures that people can just realistically do like this weekend that can offer some of these same benefits that are just easy in like real life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, really.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A big fan of Pinterest when it comes to this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So anytime we take like a trip to you know some random state we've never been or

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mentioned to Dan the other day that we have a couple weeks before school starts and I want to like do some local adventuring in our own backyard in Missouri that we've yet to see and I'll just go to Pinterest and type in like hidden gems in Missouri photo ops in Missouri top 10 restaurants in Missouri and maybe there's like a barbecue place two hours away from you that's like

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[SPEAKER_03]: Killer 10 out of 10 rating, like the best burnt engine you've ever tasted, drive a couple hours, go eat dinners of family, go on a picnic, or you know, maybe there's a hike around there or a fun photo backdrop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like a visual person, so I like looking at Pinterest because it's like, here's the top 10 hidden gems.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there was like a spring, there was like an overlook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: like a mural painted on the wall with like these butterfly wings that you can take a picture it and take a picture with and like a restaurant that I'm like that caught my eye and that seems fun for me and it also includes like adventuring for like the kids and good food for a day and so like we're all happy but I would recommend just looking in your state because there's at least a corner of the state that you haven't adventure yet or maybe in your own town, your own city that you're at.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe there's a restaurant you've never tried.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We are creatures of habit and we like, we almost go to the same place for date night every night, but we're every weekend because it's good and we love it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we have no complaints, we know to expect, but we try to like step out of our comfort zone a little bit, try new things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, you know, to not take a big huge adventure, but just do like a day to drive a couple hours away, try some new food, go on a hike, take a photo off, and then drive home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You feel like you accomplished so much without spending so much, but then like you have those memories to keep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of our favorite places that we had gone, it was a total fluke thing that we discovered it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We would drive the same, the same highway home every single day, and I would look down and there was a big field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there would be like, one or two people on bikes are walking or jogging on a trail, and I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's five minutes from our house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should just load up the kids, take the scooters down there, we'll walk, they can scooter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we go down there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And right away, we realize like 200 yards from where you park, there's a beautiful little creek.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's six inches deep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a trail that went right down into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was like, okay, let's go home, get some swim trunks for the, or swim suits for the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and a couple folding chairs and we'll just come hang out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That turned into like the box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sam had friends like when he guys go into the creek next, we want to come because she would invite other families and they would come and the kids would just be flipping over rock

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so those are the types of things that I encourage people to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a nature trail close by, if there's a bike trail, just get out of town a little bit and see what's around your house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I bet you we went there 50 times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and Pinterest helps find those things like another place just like that that we found out of nowhere was we lived in Colorado for two years, but we would drive back to vacation in Colorado all the time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go through Kansas, the most boring state you will ever drive, you just want to sleep through it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's this place called the chalk pyramids.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like it's straight out of Utah, but more like white arches instead of the like clay red arch that you see in

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[SPEAKER_03]: that it's called chalk pyramids.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's in the middle of a cow field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just drive up and then drive me through somebody's like, like, property farm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's like cows coming up to our vehicle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it is so beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if like, that was something that you, you don't hear about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like publicize, but something that like on Pinterest or another friend of ours that travels, like I found it from them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It, who would have ever known that a beautiful place like that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just look up chalk pyramids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like three or five minutes out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So pretty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was like, it was just a short little detour, but if we wouldn't have tried to like, you know, take a detour, be willing to try something new.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We would have never seen it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that was like, that's some of my favorite pictures today is going there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's a great example, like almost everybody goes and visits family at some point throughout the year, whether it's Easter or Christmas Thanksgiving and it's like leave six hours earlier and pick like two spots that you've never stopped because if there if it's a family like mine was growing up, we stop at the exact same gas station.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a set amount of time if.

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[SPEAKER_00]: anything else changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pulling over on the side of the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're getting out and peeing on the side of the highway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, we only make this amount of stops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember times where my dad was like, I saw there's a road that I've driven driving some of my truck and there's always deer out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, not just 20

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[SPEAKER_00]: he said there will be at least 300 deer out in this field and I was like there's no way and sure enough we go back and we drive this back road and we get out there in it was springtime well all of these all of these do's had fawns and so there's like deer and baby deer like twins triplets like jumping around and it was like

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the only things I remember about driving to my mom's sister's house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did it several times a year, but I'm like, it's the same thing over and over and over, but I'll never forget that one time has like, man, this is an hour and a half out of the way, but let's just do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I had never seen someone to dare in my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm a hunter, so I'm like, I hate to remember where that field was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we go one different ideas now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of to wrap us up like what type of encouragement would you give to families who are listening and they're feeling stuck in their routine and just want to connect more with each other and with God and get out and experience some fun together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, like we talked about practical ways to try new things to get out of your comfort zone, whether try a new restaurant for dinner, doing, you know, a different day trip on a Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Don't make it complicated.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do we actually have like an adventure calendar that we are hanging out with our book as like a pre-order freebie, but it's talked about like just fun adventures that you can do every day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go to an ice cream shop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go on a bike ride in your neighborhood.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, build a fort that do something small.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Take a different route home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I feel like hands-on things that everybody can get involved in would be great board games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't, my family was too competitive for board games, like if we played board games, we, I mean, half of us would go to a hotel for the... You'd have to talk for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with us, it's like we have a bunch of board games or puzzles, like have a family puzzle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Clear the dining room table off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody jump in, hey, you guys are finding the edge pieces we're going to get started on this corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And do things like that where you can interact, you can have fun, but you can all be working,

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[SPEAKER_00]: towards the same goal and I think I think just those types of things put down the screens like a movie night's great Don't get me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love movies Sam's not a movie person at all, but like every probably other week we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, it's movie night We do we have these little tackle boxes that we put snacks in for the kids And they get like five Teddy grams and two Oreos and a couple fruit snacks

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we just make it a big deal where we like set the couch up to where we can all cut a lawn and we bring all the best blankets down there and we just sit and we pick out a movie together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so finding something like that where everybody is either locked in on the same thing or trying to accomplish the same goal, I feel like is a great way to connect to get out of the routine of just, well, it's eight o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to scroll and then fall asleep, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a good fun adventure and the kids will look forward to it or have a have a homemade pizza night hey everyone gets to make their own pizza.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see how it goes but also to be intentional like a good reminder that you know we prioritize the only time but we also prioritize just time together because at the end of the day when the kids are grown and

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[SPEAKER_03]: gone where you're all each other has and on the days where it's hard and there's emotions, there's tantrums like we are leaning on each other and so when the kids go to bed like our kids do an early bedtime probably more than a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Other kids they go to bed at like 730 but from that time on like that's our time together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that's our time to whether it's cleanup or we'll hang out in the pool together or we'll like watch a show together at night that we prioritize our time together, you know, date nights whether grandparents watch them or you trade off with a friend, hey, this week we're watching your kids what you guys going to date or you watch our kids the next week while we go on a date, but then also beyond that too is like your own time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dan is really good about this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Since we've gotten married, he's had like weekly guy nights every Thursday since like I can remember and I'm thankful he gets that time

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[SPEAKER_03]: spiritually the leader of our home, like he needs that time to refresh, to enjoy conversation, to like feel himself again before coming back and like leaving us again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was used to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't used to taking my own time as a mom because it's generally a little bit harder for us to step away.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But about a year ago, I started like a cooking club in a craft night once a month.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd hate

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[SPEAKER_03]: two different days of month and invite girls over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Diano has time with the kids just him on his guys' nights.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have time with the kids just me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it adds so much to your fulfillment in life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yes, as a family, we are so fulfilled in our time together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Diano are so fulfilled together to be like, when you can step away as a mom or as a dad, you feel like just so refreshed and like, I can come back stronger and do, you know, my mom-life, my dad-life job even better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that be intentional about that time and prioritize because it is so important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I won't last thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would highly recommend anybody with kids to have one on one time with kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because like, I'll play with both the kids at the same time and it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I really get to experience like quality time if I'm the only one taking our daughter to cheer or I'm just taking my son to the store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like the the conversations are unbelievable the things that are said in like the personality that comes out when it's not siblings side by side arguing or fighting over something it's like it's it's insane how much more you can connect with your kids when you spend actual one on one time with them and so I would highly recommend that so yeah do big family things and do a bunch of individual things

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[SPEAKER_03]: Those of you who are listening, we're not perfect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's one reason why we wanted to share a life online is because when I was a fresh mom of two scrolling, everyone's life looked perfect online.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sitting struggling in my new board phase of life and wondering, okay, why is my life not like that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why am I not happy or why this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where when we wanted to share life, we wanted to share those hard and raw moments of life isn't always

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[SPEAKER_03]: happy DNA aren't always getting along, you know, our kids are crazy and, you know, we have to discipline them and, you know, they have meltdowns that remind yourself that you're not alone, like you may not see it pictured because no one wants to put their wants to air their dirty laundry online, but life isn't perfect and you're not alone what you're going through, another mom's going through another family's going through, another couple's going through, and you have the Lord Deline on because I feel like you can feel so alone in seasons of life

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not perfect, but, you know, our book, our sharing, our life online is just a small window into how we're not perfect, but we also have fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, except for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you tell us where, where we can get a copy of your book and how we can connect with you guys and follow along with where all of your channels.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So our book always choose adventure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be going live August 26th.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can get it from all major retailers Amazon, Walmart, Target, Barnes and Noble and then you can preorder.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and then yeah, our platforms are we are Dan and Sam.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We share on all platforms.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dan has he shares more hunting content on his page, the nomadic outdoors man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, come hang out with us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Read our book.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We love to get to know you guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I'll link all that and show it so people can easily find you and connect and it sounds great things But yeah, thank you so much for being with me, you guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just really appreciate chatting with you and all of your insights It was fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for listening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If today's sparked an idea for your family, just take one small step this week and go check the show notes for Dan and Sam's book, always choose adventure, and all the ways to connect with them you'll get even more ideas if you do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if this episode encouraged you, please follow the podcast and leave a quick reading interview.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate it so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for joining me, May the Lord go before you and every plan and every detour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give you the eyes to notice your children at patience for the hard moments, enjoy that turn's ordinary days and to fully invent your tips.

