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[SPEAKER_04]: So there's this shutdown thing going on, which could screw a whole lot of people across the country.
[SPEAKER_04]: But all of this is nominally tied to health care, which look, no matter what, people's health care is not going to be, it's being screwed by the big ugly bill, which Republicans and Trump jammed through.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So, wow, we got some good stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: We got Brooklyn Dad to find in today, which is good because he tends to keep me a little bit grounded.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we will be talking about the free speech thing and the shutdown.
[SPEAKER_04]: and all of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, and I emailed him so early yesterday because remember I forgot one Monday.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, right, like this is really early.
[SPEAKER_04]: Charles actually reached out to me over on a blue sky and he's like, hey, if you sent me the confirmation yet, you know, she can the connection and I was like, oh, no, I will send that to today Monday, but this was like, I think, like last night and I'm like, no, no, no, I hadn't I always do it the day before I know that's well, the today he'll be here tomorrow, but he was, but he's so polite, he was checking on me first so that
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I've done that when I were doing it via Zoom for Stephanie show.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Um, it was a group of very nice people hadn't seen Travis in a while, but that's him to come on.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was checking her if she would come on.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that would be awesome.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to try to get them on and, um, and I got to see Mr. Hamel again and she would be excellent.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then on how Spark sang, which was lovely.
[SPEAKER_04]: How is it good voice he has a mean you know I like his rock voice, but he actually, you know, if he's not doing the you know the Growley rock thing I mean he has a good voice voice anyway.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I believe that Steph's latest crush on a heterosexual girl.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, and Anna and I are now best friends and they're she's not friends with Stephanie.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm kidding, but she She had her husband give me her phone number in my phone on Sunday and as she was leaving She says call me every five minutes and so I called her like five minutes later and left of waste mail
[SPEAKER_04]: That's funny, that's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_06]: And she was so, so, so, so, so nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, and she was all star-struck for Rob of Robin Trish.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, okay, I mean, I guess, that's- Because definitely like this is Rob.
[SPEAKER_06]: She was of Robin Trish.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, everybody is, is everybody is struck by somebody.
[SPEAKER_04]: You would probably not be surprised, but a lot of people would be surprised and who other people are surprised at.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was weird when she was all star-struck with me.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, dude, your famous, not me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Depends on who people think her famous.
[SPEAKER_04]: Depends on who people are into and who they like.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, whatever I, you know, whatever I, I, it's, it is a weird thing for me, but having met as many famous people, musicians and rockers and news people and politicians and,
[SPEAKER_04]: I just try to treat everybody like a normal person because most people would prefer to be treated that way.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there are some people who are like, you mean you're not like, you know, super shockers to our struck.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, go to the bathroom, same way as me.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know.
[SPEAKER_06]: down the hall and uh... you know aim to please but uh... it was it was just it was a really lovely steven stills i got to talk with him again i'd be nice to talk with him he's he's lovely he really is you know in frances and Angela did wind up's cry um... oh nice so it's always good to see those two ladies as well as i'm glad they're going to be here in but two weeks or two weeks yeah because jojo's next Tuesday and then there's following Wednesday
[SPEAKER_04]: see look at that you guys all hang out with us you get to hang out with the cool people and we won't knock you if you are a little freaked out or you know star struck or whatever because I'm like hey you know that's cool but you know remember everybody is generally everybody is generally saying except for well some of the Trump people and those some of the
[SPEAKER_04]: This shut down thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Also, driving me, I mean, I'm here in DC and some of the stuff at this end of the bar is people are worried here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm seriously, Jody.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, because, okay, so you've got all the people who took those buyouts.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that money for a lot of those people was basically about S67, eight months worth of pay means it's starting to run out right about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, this is at the same time that some of these people who took the buyout money from the douchebags are getting rehired because the government can't do its job and needs them.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is at the same time that Russ Vaughn is threatening and saying, well, we're going to fire and permanently fire people except for the people we hire back.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's such a thank God they're incompetent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, look, I'm very glad for the half-ashesum.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm very glad for it, but at the same time, it is a constant in my brain, because this is no way to run a government.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, and for those of you who are still not understanding, because the mainstream media has not been properly informing everybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it's about the health care and that's part of the reason that we're going to have Charles Gabby in tomorrow to talk about how the Republicans have screwed all of us on that already.
[SPEAKER_04]: But also the key is about resisions.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why so many people want to avoid the word because as we talk with Karen and Anita on Friday, it's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: It just basically means the Republicans want to be able to Welch on their bet.
[SPEAKER_04]: They want to Welch on their deal with the Democrats.
[SPEAKER_04]: and do decisions, do cuts like they did to NPR and PBS and 4 and 8.
[SPEAKER_06]: They want to break the contract that they're agreeing to sign much like Sinclair next hard did.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then realize that's a bad plan.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tony is right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And look, that's the thing is that
[SPEAKER_04]: The baseline ask that Democrats have isn't health care.
[SPEAKER_04]: The baseline ask that Democrats have is if we're going to make a deal with you, can we trust you to actually abide by the deal?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or are you going to well-chon it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you going to cheat on it?
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're going to cheat on it, why are we going to make right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Why are you wasting our time for?
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Russ Votsa as well, if it shuts down, I'm going to use the shutdown to fire people permanently.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there have been some Democrats who said you've been firing people permanently.
[SPEAKER_04]: already.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's not that big of a threat because of the fact that if you're going to fire people anyway, regardless of what we do, and that's your threat, then you're still going to fire people anyway, regardless of what we do.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just it will be highly illegal.
[SPEAKER_04]: It'll go to court.
[SPEAKER_04]: You'll get your ass kicked and you'll have to hire some of them back.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think that was a JD Vance.
[SPEAKER_06]: One of the sound bites I played this morning saying, you need 60 Democrats to sign off on this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there aren't 60 Democrats in the Senate.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, if there were us to give us 60 Democrats, I'd be like, look, you know, JV, get off a Davenport and, you know, when you're dumb, screwing around that way, you can come and give us 60 Democrats in the Senate.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love 67 Democrats because that guarantees something better.
[SPEAKER_04]: are you thinking of the twenty-fifth amendment show that and impeachment and I would say sixty nine seventy senators just to have the pad know I get that I get that the gentleman probably wouldn't vote to impeach although federal men when he was on fox over the weekend was asked you know are you leaving the democratic party and he's like no
[SPEAKER_06]: sure sounds like it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I might personally folks if you're in Pennsylvania listening, y'all need to replace Mr. Fetterman.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean that I didn't like him before, but I'm saying I think his health issues are given a problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_06]: I agree that there's something that happened after that stroke that just, I mean even his family is said so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and that doesn't mean that he's still, you know, not a good person.
[SPEAKER_04]: He might be a good person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know him personally.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I do know that I don't think that he is a very good legislator anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, not anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not since then.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not since then, and it's sad.
[SPEAKER_06]: I wish him well, but yeah, I'm speaking of health issues.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, that are kind of sad.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was a little sad to hear this one today.
[SPEAKER_04]: So did you hear that Dolly Parking is temporarily pausing post-poning for Las Vegas concert series.
[SPEAKER_04]: She said Dr. Toler that she must have a few procedures.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so she says, no, no, it's not plastic surgery.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not the usual stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: She didn't mention all of that trust me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, she'd be like, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on as fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, but yeah, so it's like whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hopefully it's minor and she'll be back on her feet and on her little teeny tiny little feet.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, by the way, for those of you who missed it over the weekend.
[SPEAKER_04]: the hell did this happen, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, your your Dodgers were basically world beaters, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're kicking ass.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now they're, they have to be in the freaking wild card against the Cincinnati Reds.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Cincinnati Reds were 15 games back.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't understand the.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a new format to this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Basically, there are four teams that have a first round by.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't have to play in the first round.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be Seattle, Toronto, Milwaukee Brewers, and the Phillies.
[SPEAKER_04]: What a nice one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then the other eight teams, I'll have to play in.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's like the playoffs for football, for the Super Bowl.
[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Detroit and Cleveland have to play each other.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then whoever wins their play Seattle,
[SPEAKER_04]: New York and Boston have to play each other, whoever wins their place to roto.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Cubs and San Diego were playing each other, whoever wins their has to play Milwaukee.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then your Dodgers have to play the Reds, and they will probably clobber them, and then they have to play Philly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which, you know, look, personally I'm like, you know, just skip that first round, because the Dodgers are gonna beat Cincinnati.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the LA versus Philly, okay, that's an actual game.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be serious.
[SPEAKER_04]: San Diego, I think, will beat the cubs.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's my thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: My take on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I think Milwaukee beat them.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would love to see Boston and New York.
[SPEAKER_04]: These first rounds were only three game series.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would love to see them pound the hell out of each other and then Toronto pound the hell out of them just because that way it would eliminate both Boston and New York and I'm good with that, just saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: We still love the Massachusetts.
[SPEAKER_05]: We still love you New York.
[SPEAKER_04]: We do, you know, just, you know, meds, that's all I'm saying on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we, Cleveland over the tigers is kind of my thought on that, and then, you know, Cleveland versus Seattle, that's going to be interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, but it'll be fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Postseason is that, get something at WNBA stuff.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, although I did, I did hear a caller when you were calling when somebody called the Stephanie show this morning, who said that, that, oh no, no, that, that Jimmy Kimmel show isn't on in Maryland.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The two murderous thug dictator fascist.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what you want to call them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not great folks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, exactly, Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, it's just, uh, anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: Trump and Netanyahu met at the White House, discussed plans for this supposed ceasefire.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the dumbest thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, first of all, did you, did you hear Trump today?
[SPEAKER_06]: I know, I haven't, I mean, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've got, I've got a clip from him.
[SPEAKER_04]: He does not sound good at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's, he sounds out of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: He sounds, I don't know, drugged up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't be, very grumpy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very grumpy Trump here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I play this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Israel would have my fall back into finished
[SPEAKER_00]: of destroying the threat of Hamas.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I hope that we're going to have a deal for peace.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Hamas rejects the deal, which is always possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're the only one left.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone else has accepted it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone else, I have a feeling that we're going to have a positive answer.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if not, as you know, baby, it have more info back in, we do what you would have to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, uh, uh, he sounds out of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: He sounds, drugged up or something else.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, also all parties accept to mass.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's like there's two parties involved.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's baby and there's hummus.
[SPEAKER_04]: right there's there's the government of Israel and there's the government right now of uh... which is hummus and these are the two that this is like when trump said you know we could do a peace deal with Russia and the u.s.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... oh yeah i mean i suppose we'd want you crane but i don't know we need them to say no yeah kind of do
[SPEAKER_04]: we're not actually one of the primary parties to this.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're outside the type of trying to help.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I mean, like Qatar was trying right to help.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then what does he do?
[SPEAKER_06]: He bombs right then Netanyahu bombs Qatar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Qatar is still like, you know, we might do a little help, but we don't entirely trust how why would you?
[SPEAKER_04]: Right exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's
[SPEAKER_04]: the other thing too.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I we all know that the Netanyahu watches U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: media.
[SPEAKER_04]: He keeps a lot of shots.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, one of the phrase that he used today at that stupid little presser, we could do this the easy way or the hard way.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, when October 7th happened, and that was.
[SPEAKER_06]: Got off and it should not have happened and you know it reminiscing of George will be a bush not paying attention to things, but I dig right His reaction to it was similar to George Bush's
[SPEAKER_04]: over the top and and like gold in my eyes literally and that's literally what Biden those like more than about 24 hours right the first 24 hours said make sure that this is not your Iraq do not go off the the scales on this and then you know basically blue off Biden and was like yeah yeah we're going to go off the scale.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, and, and the thing is, is like, um, Mossad is known for going in and surgically eliminating people.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're very good at it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Other countries have hired them to do so.
[SPEAKER_06]: To do such things, they're very, very good at it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yet, hi, see the movie Munich.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, uh, they're very, very good at that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it doesn't involve killing thousands of people that had nothing to do with what happened.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so he could have gone the gold away.
[SPEAKER_06]: He chose to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: He chose to go the George W. Bush, Dick Cheneyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's just stupid.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she was a much better prime minister of his rail than he is.
[SPEAKER_06]: And she was about as two.
[SPEAKER_06]: Consider it as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Indeed.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was a bad guy who is not a great prime minister.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, he's terrible.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he just wants to stay out of prison.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because long as the war keeps going, he gets to stay in power, which that's no sense to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: The motivation behind it is the same thing as the motivation was 2004, which urge W Bush.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't want to change horses in the middle of the stream.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there were a lot of Americans that bought that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there were a lot of Israelis that bought that as well when they made this initial deal, but the problem is the way that the deal is structured in Israel, the way their politics is structured is very, it's very unequal, it's very screwed up.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now, basically, until the war is done, or unless the people there push him out.
[SPEAKER_04]: they could if they wanted to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the protesting is almost at least once a week and it's hundreds of thousands of people.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's a lot.
[SPEAKER_04]: There are daily protests, but there's really big protests at least once a week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's it we will see there is that big protest coming up.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is an October 18th?
[SPEAKER_04]: October 18th.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I cannot wait to walk down to my way.
[SPEAKER_04]: We won't reach out to our friends at an indivisible and see if they can come back on and come to great you know instruct folks on what to do and how to get ready for it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And always be safe amongst yourselves and don't throw anything at law enforcement should they approach you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, don't punch law enforcement unless you're a jazzy like a board.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was that was the slapper around the world.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was the slapper around the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: which I still am like, what the, and he will, we'll talk about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But there is more news on tap for the day here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have to say that these trumps threats of attack, it's still half ass.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's still half ass, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_04]: ham-handed, stupid, sloppy.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, in Chicago, they are, um, how do I want to put this?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're walking around, do, have you seen any of the clips of them?
[SPEAKER_04]: Basically, writing on boats, going down the river with their guns, all looking tough, but there's no crime on the river going through Chicago.
[SPEAKER_06]: And there's your ice agents, aren't they?
[SPEAKER_06]: So, you
[SPEAKER_04]: They're federal agents of various kinds, including ice agents.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, like so what what why are you looking for people swimming?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's an important one of the pieces that we have in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_04]: The top board chief admitted that people are being arrested based on how they look, which remember they tried that in California.
[SPEAKER_04]: but that's a completely different state.
[SPEAKER_04]: Illinois is not California.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if the folks in Illinois decide to drag ice into federal court, they can do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the result may be different.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but the Supreme Court did rule that they could do that in the in the shadow docket.
[SPEAKER_04]: They ruled that they could do it in California.
[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't rule they could do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is this is one of the things when we tell people that they need to fight on every front.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is what we mean by don't comply in advance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, somebody else won over here, but the way that courts and the law work is it remember the Supreme Court, remember we had Chris Geidner in here this summer talking about nationwide injunctions and now those aren't as easy anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can't just do a nationwide injection and say, no, no, no, no, it's okay for ice to do whatever the hell they want.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now they have to do it the same way from there in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: So then we bring it up.
[SPEAKER_04]: You bring it up in Illinois and you say, not allowed here.
[SPEAKER_04]: That circuit looks at it and says, ain't wrong.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it would have to make its way back up because they would have one ruling that they made for California.
[SPEAKER_04]: There'd be another ruling from a appeals court.
[SPEAKER_04]: that was for Illinois and because the way that the federal that the Supreme Court said, oh, that was for California, they'd have to take it back up again.
[SPEAKER_04]: And but doesn't Clarence Thomas not like precedent so let's just yeah we have we have that we have that story to in the news on tap today I know we're jumping around a little bit that's why we made it easy for you guys to take a look at some of this stuff um... uh... yeah in the court of supreme injustice section of the news on tap uh... clearance Thomas is now saying that president may not matter in cases coming before them in the Supreme Court and they are looking at uh... uh... yeah here's the thing
[SPEAKER_04]: If the reason the president is so important for law is that everything builds on everything else.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if it doesn't, then we don't have a federal system of laws at that point.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if Chicago says, I don't care what the president in California says screw you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know that the circuit there says, no, they, the ice agents can't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: If there is a ruling in a circuit where they say, you know what, no, you cannot ban whatever you can't ban abortions, you can't ban these and then Supreme Court says, well, I want to do it this way and they say, I'm ignoring you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know you're getting to that point.
[SPEAKER_04]: You ignored the president, so I'm going to ignore your precedent, bite me, make me.
[SPEAKER_04]: It becomes a country, not of laws, but of f you make me, where every little area and fight them has its own thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you can have one set of, well, this is what the federal law says.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then a state that says, screw you, I don't like the federal law.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then a city inside that state says, no, no, I want the federal law.
[SPEAKER_04]: And others say, no, I'm sticking with the states.
[SPEAKER_04]: You end up with a complete patchwork.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why you have to accept President and operate on President, whether you like it or not.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I mean, we did, Dred Scott got overturned.
[SPEAKER_04]: We did do certain things because, okay, I'm not saying I'm not saying President is is forever.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's how some people position what Clarence Thomas said.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you look at the whole of what he said, he's really signaling that they want to be able to go in and override for no legitimate reason.
[SPEAKER_04]: laws that they don't like, we over road dread Scott because the logical arguments against it failed.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can defeat a bad past logical argument, a bad past logical ruling, but you can't have a legitimate system of federalized laws with a system that we have, where it's a republic where you've got each state has its own control and you've got the feds have a different portion of control, you can't have that system and then say, you have a precedent doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_06]: And up until Roe was overturned, any time we overturned, any time the Supreme Court overturned previous precedent, it was to grant rights, not to take rights away.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he's talking about Obergefell, and I know he's going to talk about Griswald, and there's a Texas law about Sodom and yet conveniently, they will avoid loving, isn't that?
[SPEAKER_06]: I know, it's not weird, which was decided similarly to Obergefell.
[SPEAKER_04]: along with same legal reasoning right but but you know that's that's because Thomas is married to a white woman so we can't have that it it it it follows it follows what i have said is pretty much the iron law of explaining republicans for most last fifty years it's that five word motto of the modern republican party i've got mine f u yep
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as long as they have their rights and they can do what they want.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you want rights.
[SPEAKER_04]: You want justice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what they think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Except if we start doing the same thing to them, then they're going to kick and scream and holler.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you go, it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't have a country.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't have an organization that way, where the laws only work in one direction.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I mean, you know, there are no people who understood that with the free speech thing, I think, but I think people need to apply it elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, with the, we'll talk about this probably with Brooklyn dad with the two shooters over the weekend, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: The one that burned the church down apparently is a maga.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He had, I think, a Trump sign on his front of his house or something.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that was in June.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, it wasn't that long ago.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he was wearing a Trump shirt or something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, and, and, and, I believe he was in a rack war veteran 2004, I think, sure, maybe he had PTSD.
[SPEAKER_06]: He might have, that's entirely possible.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's interesting that the media is not talking about right wing violence.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, and that's the, we have a lot of problems with our mainstream news meeting and that is very definitely one of them is that they're constantly afraid of being called liberal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as we've talked about here at the bar before, if you're news, by default, you are a little bit liberal because you're talking about new things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Liberals like truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: They like change.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: New information is new.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hence the word news.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you don't like new things, you like the olds.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we no longer make olds in this country.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's been an effort.
[SPEAKER_06]: The liberal media hasn't been liberal in most of my actual, don't like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: Once again, Jody's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just saying.
[SPEAKER_04]: just rush limba got away with it and it just it stuck mm-hmm yep and and I think there are a lot more people who are sick and tired of that kind of garbage then I think a lot of the mainstream media execs realize and they all learn they're gonna have to all right we're gonna talk about somebody who learned something the hard way coming up with the brick of the day
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, look, you got a new transition somehow, and that's just part of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would just slap me around.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just say, look, drink the day coming up next.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Jody, today's drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_06]: You slaptastic.
[SPEAKER_04]: Slaptastic.
[SPEAKER_04]: I liked that one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could talk.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could deal with that one.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: You said you had not heard the term slaps used as a piece of slang.
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I don't have children.
[SPEAKER_04]: As in, hey, that's slaps.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have kids either, but, and my, well,
[SPEAKER_04]: My nephew, my sister's oldest, is getting married this Saturday, so unfortunately I can't be there, it's one of those things.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm grateful to you, you can't be there because I wouldn't have to do this show by myself for two days, and I'm sorry you can't go, but I'm so happy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, but I, I am thinking if you guys have some advice for my nephew Caleb and his bribery You know, you guys could certainly get that to us in the social media as well good advice not that kind of advice They you know, but it's still he know how the birds in the bees are happening
[SPEAKER_06]: They know those things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but you know Caleb and breed their young Okay, Caleb's brother Caden who's you've just a few years back.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, so I I still have some access to the youths to youths specifically and you know So I know that I know the slang slangs laps, but The slang slaps does kind of apply with the old meeting for today's drink of the death
[SPEAKER_04]: It does.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very much.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is the drink of the day today?
[SPEAKER_06]: What's called an illusion cocktail.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it was inspired by Jaja Gabor.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is the reference to the slap her round the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, did you know all the facts about Jaja like her past history?
[SPEAKER_06]: I knew a little bit about her and Avan and Magda, but not a lot of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, uh, for those of you who don't remember, uh, jaja her sister, Ava Gabor, uh, famous Hollywood actress, uh, known for which show, green acres, it's a place to be.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, um, jaja, uh, born in Budapest, Hungary, uh, to a death and ethnically Jewish family could have voted to Catholicism, um,
[SPEAKER_04]: claim she danced with Hitler twice, although they escaped and came here.
[SPEAKER_04]: She, if she was alive today and coming up today, I 100% guarantee she would be a reality TV star.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she lived to be very old and very feisty.
[SPEAKER_04]: And for those people who do not remember or did not know the story behind this lap, long and short.
[SPEAKER_04]: Joshua was driving her very expensive rolls Royce through Beverly Hills was stopped because she had expired registration tags.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when the cop went back to check her registration tags, make sure and be like, you know, to have the right information, whatever, she drives off in her car.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the cop chases her down and then they get into it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she does the, you know, white woman things.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some folks would call it a Karen thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, one day is yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's lapsed him.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So she got arrested.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then they found that she had an open flask of Jack Daniels.
[SPEAKER_06]: So girl, all you had to do is stay there and get the fixer ticket and need to
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but no, no, she thought she was I don't you understand who I think I am.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't you think you know who I am?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, definitely a little bit of an illusion in her mind as to how important she was, but
[SPEAKER_04]: So the drink of the day, it is an illusion.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an homage to Ms.
[SPEAKER_04]: Gabor.
[SPEAKER_04]: What kind of things do we need for this interesting drink?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it is kind of an interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's an interesting flavor.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It sounds interesting for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it's a shaker, obviously, if you use those a ton of times.
[SPEAKER_06]: Ice for the shaker, ice for the drink, a pre-chilled colon's glass, two ounces of vodka.
[SPEAKER_06]: We suggest kettle one, but any top shell vodka.
[SPEAKER_06]: Three-quarter ounces of quantro, triple-sec, or any other triple-sec liquor, three-quarter ounces of green melanin cure.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's where the interesting flavor comes in, is that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because that's the green melanin is not a very common liquor, but it's- No, and there are a few other drinks that have it, and it's- it's an acquired taste, I'm going to go with.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, some people really like it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: My wife, by the way, couldn't have it because she's allergic to melons.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there you go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, and then two and a half ounces of pineapple juice and a watermelon wedge for garnish.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is a very easy drink to make.
[SPEAKER_06]: Put everything, but the garnish in the shaker with ice and shake until it's cold, strain into an ice-filled Collins glass and garnish with the watermelon wedge.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's very, very easy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sounds very good and and something you can you know drink up and salute and have fun just don't go around slap drops, especially now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even if they need it, even if they deserve it, do not slap them.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's just a warm people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do not do political violence.
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[UNKNOWN]: That guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, by the way, I have a new grand nephew.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yay!
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, my nephew and his wife had their third child over the weekend, so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Name.
[SPEAKER_06]: Name is, hold, please.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jordi's looking up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just to make sure she gets the right name.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I just sort of didn't quite mean him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you mean, yeah, you get to see the pictures.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the pictures of cute babies are things.
[SPEAKER_04]: My brother, my youngest brother, sends me cute pictures of my two other nieces who are almost three and one.
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, he was born yesterday at 12, 13 in the morning.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, good time.
[SPEAKER_06]: His name is Tatum.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tatum.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tatar.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's adorable.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I can already see he's cutie-buy, but so we're his brother and sister, so there's that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we're his parents, so there's that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But... Oh, that's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is why we do all this stuff, folks.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is why we hang out with you guys at the bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is why we talk about all of these important topics.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not for us, not because, you know, you and Lonnie don't have kids, Sarah and I don't have kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you know, y'all have a lot of kids and you have nieces and nephews and friends and stuff and you want to make sure things are fixed and they are definitely not fixed right now they're they're they're another effort but we can't say that one guess we're on to rest of your radio but they are definitely that way I case you guys missed it there were at least two mass shootings over the weekend.
[SPEAKER_04]: one of them happened to be in a bar in North Carolina police say the attack was highly premeditated and targeted three killed eight injured.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he came from the river.
[SPEAKER_04]: The river.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's kind of a bar that also is kind of on a river.
[SPEAKER_04]: She can kind of have a boat and kind of come up in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which I'm just like, what the, you know,
[SPEAKER_04]: Then there was the one that was even more confusing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there was a gunman that smashed into a church in Michigan.
[SPEAKER_04]: Latter-day Saints Church, Mormon Church, if you don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: There are some people out there by the way who are given crap to Mormons.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I got to say, what the hell is your problem, folks?
[SPEAKER_06]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_04]: I've known a lot of Mormon.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, so there was a girl, I have a story.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is this is high school and there was an attractive young woman and she kind of you know thought I was cute And I'm like okay, whatever and she's like but I need you to come to a couple of these Bible study things with me I was like okay, whatever You know, I thought she was attractive and that's like whatever Then she wanted me to come to a Mormon Bible study thing the reason she wanted me to come to a Mormon Bible study is so that I would commit to becoming a Mormon and then she could date me
[SPEAKER_04]: But I was like, I had no freaking clue at that time.
[SPEAKER_04]: All that I knew about Mormonism was the fact that there were two families that lived down the street.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of them had like 11 kids, and the other one was 13.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so when we play games like Kick the Can, Red River, Uh-huh, tag, uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we played, we played fireball.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know that that's a game that everybody plays so you take a tennis ball and you'd soak it in gasoline overnight for 24 hours You have to have and then yeah, and then you have to have enough baseball gloves So that you can play it and you wait till it gets you know little after dark and then you play baseball With the tennis ball and see you catch and you can definitely see where the ball is going.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's great because it's lit on fire Yeah, no
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we had fun in my neighborhood growing up.
[SPEAKER_06]: That sounds frightening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I'm sure my neighborhood was a little bit frightening to, you know, a lot of people growing up because of my other thing, there was piles of kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's just it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, they're just the kids down the street.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's a deal.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because my dad was raised Catholic.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so when he and his first wife got married, they had eight children.
[SPEAKER_06]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_06]: he divorced her ex-communicated and have three more children with my mom and he would golf sometimes with some Mormon friends and the first time he golf with this one guy he's because I'm Mormon and he goes, I'm Catholic.
[SPEAKER_06]: How many kids do you have and his golfing buddy said 10 he goes, I beat you, I got 11 and then they both said name them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I used to be able to the Manglesons.
[SPEAKER_04]: I could not name all of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the Snedons, I could name all of the Snedon kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were the Snedons actually were closer to me than the Manglesons were all the way down the street anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: People go, oh my god, I go, yeah, because I mean, you go to school with them, you hang out with them, but they're house.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're, I mean, they're great people.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this idea that some people aren't in the line are going, oh, the Mormon church and then like shut up.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wormons are actually really cool people most of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And just like most, just like most people in any religion.
[SPEAKER_04]: It'd be like somebody going, oh, Muslims.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Muslims are fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Jews.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jews are fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the freaks that cause the problems.
[SPEAKER_06]: the fundamentalists read it in church the separation of church and hate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, by John Fugelsing, which I believe is going on its third week, and the New York Times bestseller list.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I don't want to have it on as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: So good for him now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's kicking ass, which is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yes, so anyway, this gunman smashed into a Mormon church in Michigan.
[SPEAKER_04]: Literally drove his truck like through a wall gets out during the middle of their service.
[SPEAKER_04]: Start firing a salt weapon.
[SPEAKER_04]: I believe killed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think four.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think anybody else has died yet wounded eight.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he said something like some fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been killed himself.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which you know, I thought the cops got him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you know, maybe that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that that was that was the one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think the other guy killed himself.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the one where he was in a shootout with the cops in the cops got him.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: There are so many shootouts.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to remember.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I killed him, which one killed themselves.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's it's it's it's it's um it's very
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, makes makes me this way makes me angry because we've gone over the five components of gun violence before ineffective gun safety laws suboptimal mental health care systems corrupt lobbying political finance systems Question will media ethics and poverty and inequality We get all of this obviously at least a couple of these recent shooters have been former members of the military I think these two guys were both
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which, which right there, you're like, why don't they have better mental health care?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I don't know because the big ugly bill in the Republicans gutted have been gutting the government and now with the government shut down, rust vauts and Donald Trump and Republicans want to gut the government even more and when you gut the government and you take away services that people need like mental health care, then they're more apt to do things like take their guns and go out and randomly kill a bunch of people.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Kaylee Mackinay said that the guy hit the Mormon church didn't like Mormons, but she's like, we're not really sure about that, but that's what Cash Patel told me.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's like, I don't believe a word out of that guy's mouth.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't believe anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't believe the words are and or the exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, Cash Patel is not somebody who you should be trusting, but then again, Kaylee Mackinay is exactly somebody you should be trusting you there, so.
[SPEAKER_06]: As big as her crosses are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, they have to be big enough for her to climb on them and say, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's, I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how that goes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, we have more news on tap.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have Brooklyn Dad to find, coming in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know, the news can be sometimes depressing.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why you guys hang out with us.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll get Ron Robertson here talking about that and talking about how he had to do the change over in his new show as well because he's kind of, I think he's going to two hours with his shows.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, good for him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's going to be a long week for you, Joody, because you are doing your show and Stephanie show and Bob show.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the other 392 shows and probably Allison Gil show and she does way more shows than I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: okay still a lot of shows this week so i am i am very glad that that uh i get you i'm i'm sad that i'm missing the the the wedding of my nephew but i'm glad that i get a hangout and help you this week thank you so much no worries also it is Stephanie Miller's birthday so if you're not going if you have not gone on social media and told her happy 44th
[SPEAKER_04]: birthday.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's just not in her 50s.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's not in her 50s.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're just going to go with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it's easier right.
[SPEAKER_04]: 44 than try to write.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's like she said on her show this morning.
[SPEAKER_06]: She elbowed the cake that said 44.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it just said happy birthday.
[SPEAKER_04]: Happy birthday.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it was funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Happy Ford it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I believe I heard you say that on a bobsh.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a third to four to four to four and something like that we'll have Bob in the bar later this week as well because we love to have Bob.
[SPEAKER_04]: We do fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Back to the news on tap today folks.
[SPEAKER_04]: There is some more news that's going on out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some really good news in the election land section.
[SPEAKER_04]: Eric Adams has abandoned his quest for another round of New York City mayor.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, but by otherwise didn't so long he wasn't going to win.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cuomo's barely in second on this so to
[SPEAKER_04]: 20 points behind a new poll.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have the link that's in the news on tap today show Zornman Dammy is up 20 points over Cuomo in that race and isn't Donald threatening New York if they do elect him that he's going to withhold federal funding.
[SPEAKER_04]: he's going to try to do that but you remember they've got some big lawyers and they also remember they've got AG Tisch James up there in New York State and New York City happens to be part of New York State and she has plenty of reason to kick Donald's ass between his shoulder blades already so if I were him I would just step off but you know they they never seem to get that
[SPEAKER_04]: I know that J.B.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pritzker actually, he also stepped out this afternoon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Didn't get the details because we were just getting in here to the bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he stepped out and made some comments today too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am glad to see that it is a multi-pronged thing that you've got Newsom and Pritzker that you've got people who are running for election.
[SPEAKER_04]: like man Danny who are just saying you know what screw you a David jolly by the way down in Florida just got um he got an endorsement i'm trying to remember who was from i think was a republican aligned group that's also not trump good even though David jolly is running as a democrat because they're like yeah we can't we just can't we can't handle trump anymore well and they don't like to say this and they don't like i mean they don't want any trumpism in that state anymore
[SPEAKER_04]: there are a lot of people down there who are wanting to do that they say they've had enough and understandably so uh... the races uh... looks like uh... the uh... chirorelli in new jersey who tried to basically uh... get marco rubio and the national archives to give him the entire fee uh... file
[SPEAKER_04]: against, um, Mike Sherrill.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, Mike is, um, she's now doing pretty good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've seen last couple of polls and last couple of days come out.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's, I think, seven and nine points up again.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, no, I think what they did and it getting out there to the public just made everybody go and know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't do those kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't play that kind of game with folks.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm about research is fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: I understand that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's part of the business.
[SPEAKER_06]: But you don't give them that kind of information, plus her social security number.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so, and her signature, and her signature, and all of these things that somebody could steal about her family.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, they could, I mean, they could really mess with this woman.
[SPEAKER_06]: And,
[SPEAKER_04]: the fact that her social is out there is that they're in New Jersey, but this is you know this is New Jersey that they you know it's been it's been a few years but they're used to the mob stuff from back in the day and they don't they don't take kindly to that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that's really what Chitarelli and and and Chitarelli can get mad about it but I'm sorry look uh you're siding yourself with Trump and Rubio who should have done this properly the first thing that he should have done is
[SPEAKER_04]: absolutely said I don't want anything to do with this thing out of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that's not what happened and that's you know, and then and then here thankfully in the Virginia corner of the bar Spanburgers doing really good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really I mean, I you know, and and she is she's hitting the things that need to be hit which she's hitting affordability big time Did and she's hitting accountability, especially when it comes to the federal government and these jobs the shutdown thing
[SPEAKER_04]: she's very much saying you know why are people not more concerned about this you got to be focused on this is an economic issue it's a social issue she's right about all that so you know democrats are doing different things in different areas friend catabacazela who you know there in chicago she's been really heading up a lot of the stuff against the ice processing center we have
[SPEAKER_04]: Another story on that happens to be in the news on tap, that one's under the militarism and suppression of opposition section, ISIS has been escalating their violence against protesters.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a journalist who was here that suburban ISIS facility that Karen has been talking about, that we hear about last Friday, yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the journalists were just doing their thing, got arrested.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's another journalist who was literally driving by and one of the ice guys on top of the building paged her car, open window, hit right on the rim of the window with a pepper ball, which then went up in like made or sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she's driving a news van, give me a break.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's so, that's, that's, that's, wow.
[SPEAKER_06]: They just want to cause a citizens to go after them.
[SPEAKER_04]: what they're looking for they're trying to prove a Reichstag event exactly exactly joddy is right that's exactly what these ice monsters were wanting to do for you folks who are in Seattle or in Memphis or in Chicago you got to keep this point big time yeah that's what I meant so yeah Portland is even bigger yeah the big deal or LA for that matter or New York wherever you happen to be
[SPEAKER_04]: We get that what the ice monsters and what Trump's manga minions are doing is wrong.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yes, by definition, grab a dictionary, it is fascism, whether they like it or not, it is fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, you can't be the aggressor.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can do assertive civil unrest.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can do, you know, protests where you don't get out of their way and they have to push you, but they have to push you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't push them.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't be the aggressor.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have to think in terms like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like Martin Luther King did during the civil rights era.
[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't get out there and attack.
[SPEAKER_04]: They got attacked, but they knew that they were going to.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is how that particular, yes, it sucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you've noticed, there are a lot less people who are in favor of Donald Trump is down by.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't get this one in, but I know that you sent me the story.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he said 20 points.
[SPEAKER_04]: by republicans and this is a right leaning poster on top of it all so it's not rast mucian but you know it's still right leaning yeah people don't people the down trump on everything that i've seen uh... gly amorous uh... we've had some stuff from his in here as well uh... if you go out there and look you can find that he does a good poll aggregation and on every major topic out there
[SPEAKER_04]: Donald Trump and the Niagara Republicans are under water nationally and statewide in most states.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're under water.
[SPEAKER_04]: People may want certain things, but they don't want it done in this way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Missouri, by the way, that's another story we didn't get in there today, but they push through there, they're trying to steal that seat.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there are a lot of Missouri Republicans and independence who are like that's not acceptable that's not okay there's a they're going to try to get a referendum on a ballot so that their state can decide like my state can decide right but there is there is some question because they have a You know biased state Supreme Court as well and it may be like the US Supreme Court that says oh you want actual justice know we don't deliver that anymore
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, and just to go back to what ISIS trying to do, my concern is because they are provoking violence.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're definitely, they're, they're starting it.
[SPEAKER_06]: My concern is another Kent State.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And look, I mean, that's, it's a fair concern.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's understandable that, that people are,
[SPEAKER_04]: worried about this and looked at the whole thing went when Trump went off on Portland over the weekend.
[SPEAKER_04]: All of this is because of Fox, Fox, the Fox propaganda network, apparently he saw some clips.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a story on Fox where they were covering this, this ice, remote detention facility whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a satellite facility.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in Portland.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's been like a half dozen, maybe it doesn't people at most do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Flowers.
[SPEAKER_04]: They had a thing where they held like fishing poles.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they've they've done they're creative.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they're not being aggressive.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not starting any of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yes, some of the ice folks have gone under push them around and whatever, but what Fox did is they interspersed cuts of these half dozen people and their little fishing poles and flowers with clips from 2020.
[SPEAKER_04]: and the the violent conflicts that went on then during that summer.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so Donald Trump was like, oh my god, blah, blah, blah, when the governor of Oregon calls him and explains this to him, he's like, uh, what?
[SPEAKER_04]: That that's not really what's going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess apparently he got kind of pissed off because now he's mad because he doesn't think that some of the people around him are telling him the truth, which we all know some of the people around him are not telling him the truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it was interesting to see that he actually now has some awareness that some of the people who are assisting him are not telling him the truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shocker.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but that's going to lead to to him being even more paranoid and saying that
[SPEAKER_06]: Is that my pony kind of unicorn thing?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's like a mine.
[UNKNOWN]: Hahaha.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's funny man.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Brooklyn.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was good.
[SPEAKER_06]: I can't wait till we can have one video because then it's going to be a challenge every week.
[SPEAKER_04]: For half a second.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was looking and I'm like Travis, is that you?
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, Joe, he didn't mean to make you do this, but take that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just saying my little pony Travis is saying we all know that and I love Travis for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's funny.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So we were asking you in the break, you know, talking about family stuff, talking about kids going to college, talking about protecting families.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you mentioned a little bit more about the, um, the, the presser.
[SPEAKER_04]: that Pritzker gave a little bit earlier today, what's the short version of what Pritzker was saying?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because we caught a little of it as we were putting things together getting ready for the show today, but you caught a little bit more than we did, obviously.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the short version was he told ICE, get out of Chicago, you are not helping us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean,
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like I practically stood up out of my chair and applauded it was it landed with such he said it very calmly, you know, he wasn't like animated or anything, but it landed with such authority.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... and uh... yeah i i think good i i want to see more governors in the united states of america standing up to this and not just democratic uh... governors come on republican governors present your residents and your residents aren't just the ones with the red hats on thank you
[SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_04]: Amen to that, BDD.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great, speech, preach, look, that's the absolute truth because the fact of the matter is that these people come in, they're doing authoritarian things.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a little clip I was able to grab this from Asin who we always think is fantastic over at my touch.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here, let me play this, this is exactly what Pritzker said about what the ice monsters are doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Any other country, if federal agents,
[SPEAKER_01]: fired upon journalists and protesters when unprovoked.
[SPEAKER_01]: What would we call it?
[SPEAKER_01]: If federal agents marched down busy streets, harassing civilians and demanding their papers, what would we say?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we'd have any trouble calling it what it is, authoritarianism.
[SPEAKER_04]: J.B.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pritzker is right.
[SPEAKER_06]: He is absolutely right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this is the, and, and some of these people, including Trump and J.V.
[SPEAKER_04]: fans, I think, said something over the weekend, don't call it fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: whether you like it or not.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is literally what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, I don't, I, well, whether you wanted to be that, I, I, I, uh, of all people to complain about that Stephen Miller had the audacity to come up out of his fascist face.
[SPEAKER_03]: And say, well, you shouldn't be calling us fascists.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so people were like posting, oh, really?
[SPEAKER_03]: So then what about this 100 tweets where you've called people fascists?
[SPEAKER_03]: And they weren't in fascists.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, here, the definition.
[SPEAKER_04]: According to Marion Webster, the dictionary.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now we're talking about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Marion Webster's dictionary, fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: quote, a populist political philosophy movement or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forceable suppression of the opposition.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, you know, look, if you want to do the simple version, Google breaks it down into these authoritarian and totalitarian rule where power is centralized in a single leader or a small group of elite with no room for political dissent, militarism and nationalism.
[SPEAKER_04]: The ideology aggressively promotes national pride and identity through militaristic displays, like what we're going to see with Kegbreath tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rejection rejection of liberal democracy and human rights, we've all been
[SPEAKER_04]: that cult of a leader check controlled economy emphasis on hierarchical structures scapegoating and persecution of minorities and use of propaganda.
[SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations folks were there we are there.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the idea that, well, you can't call it fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: I call fire fire because it's fire.
[SPEAKER_04]: I call ice-ice because, well, it's ice.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I call fascism fascism because what they're doing is fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: And because it's half-assed, we call it half-fascism because it's half-assed fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's just what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're trying to gas light us into believing that the water in the pot is not boiling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not boiling our frog legs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, he's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, you are.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're 100% correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, and the idea that they, you don't want to call, you can't call me names.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shut your mouth.
[SPEAKER_04]: You little twit.
[SPEAKER_04]: You idiots have been calling us every name in the book for 40 or 50 years on radio in books on the internet.
[SPEAKER_04]: You monsters in the right.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's you don't hear left-leaning people trying to gine up.
[SPEAKER_04]: violence, political violence against, yeah, we get mad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes there are people who are on the left who say things that probably they shouldn't because they are incensed.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are, their emotions get to them.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they're not out there every day saying that you need to go hurt people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, but you're here people on the right to do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: The editor of the Daily Caller.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, he wants to see blood in the streets literally in he did an opinion peace.
[SPEAKER_06]: He said I want to see blood in the streets.
[SPEAKER_04]: He says I choose political violence and then the daily daily callers says, well, this is the views of the right of themselves and we don't see it around it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They published it.
[SPEAKER_04]: If they don't choose political violence, then why did they publish it?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're working there.
[SPEAKER_04]: The title of it says, I'm sure he is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure he is.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, we had who is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the guys from the comfy couch on Fox who said, homeless people should die.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, that was Ryan Killmean.
[SPEAKER_04]: Killmean.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yep, killing couch tumors as He's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's still got his job.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no, there's I think we're probably the only people that are you know on radio or anywhere right now Who are still mentioning that Brian Kilmead should probably not have a job for saying that but Yeah, yeah, because that's not okay
[SPEAKER_03]: So my latest sub-stack, which will be available, Manjana tomorrow morning, and it's about the ticket for tat presidency.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It basically addresses all of these issues how, you know, they're complaining that, um, that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, you called us this first or you did that to us first and Donald Trump is like, you know, I'm doing the law fair because I'm entitled to because they tried to prosecute me first and it's kind of it's not the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, not the same because
[SPEAKER_03]: In that case, they weren't like looking for crimes.
[SPEAKER_03]: The crimes I had already been committed, they were out there in the open.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are targeting people and saying, find a crime to convict them of.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a very different.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Fanny Willis, I mean, they're looking into her travel records from a year ago.
[SPEAKER_06]: For what?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I don't know about traveling.
[SPEAKER_04]: nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what they're trying to do is they're trying to intimidate another factor of fascism.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're trying to intimidate to silence their opposition.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am constantly reminded of what my father told me that some of his Chinese business partners said when he asked
[SPEAKER_04]: once where you know some some right wingers even back then this is the I think the 90s Oh you know what was I you know the mercos and worried about China coming over and the Chinese people that he talked to who's like even who they knew some of the high-rupped people and they're like no no no no no we're not interested
[SPEAKER_04]: in that we we may want to undermine you a little bit here and there for certain things but we're not interested in taking your position in the world we want to draft like encycling behind you because then you catch all the flack
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll just we'll draft behind you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because yeah, because I mean, you know, and you know, Chinese society as a whole is, you know, thousands of years older than we are here in the United States.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've already figured this out.
[SPEAKER_04]: They understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the reason that they didn't want to take control of us as my dad's friends with tell him is, you Americans are crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: You people are uncontrollable.
[SPEAKER_04]: Americans cannot be controlled.
[SPEAKER_04]: You cannot be silenced.
[SPEAKER_04]: You cannot be controlled.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe for a short period of time.
[SPEAKER_04]: But long-term?
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it is impossible to, it is impossible to do that to Americans.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's one of the reasons why they were not interested in that kind of thing, because I remember a time when people were complaining that China owned all of this American debt, right, to the point where people were like, oh, you better learn how to speak Chinese, too, because, you know, they own, they own all of our debt and they own a lot of our debt.
[SPEAKER_03]: They do.
[SPEAKER_03]: So doesn't that mean that they, like, first of all, do they still have that, they still have the leverage over us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And why wouldn't they want to leverage that get more to basically control us?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a control factor, it's a factor of making the conditions great for them.
[SPEAKER_04]: In the world, as it is right now, it's one of the things that China is actually, if you look at some of the foreign policy websites and magazines and things that are out there right now, one of the problems that the Chinese government is dealing with with foreign policies, the fact that in areas where the United States has left and China has moved
[SPEAKER_04]: The people there are expecting China to do what the United States used to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: So some smaller countries in Africa, for example, and the Chinese are having a lot of conflict because they never really wanted to be in that position.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, maybe they would like access to those minerals.
[SPEAKER_04]: They would like access to these kinds of things, but they don't want to be responsible for health and wellness and the food of people and other nations like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you are a superpower, a real superpower,
[SPEAKER_04]: like the United States has been.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is what is expected of you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it has been that way for hundreds, if not thousands of years, depending on the area that you're looking at.
[SPEAKER_04]: When a great big gigantic regional power comes in, and there are certain levels of things that they want to do, there's a certain amount of return that's expected from them.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a certain amount of care.
[SPEAKER_04]: China would like to, you know, make the deal such that they can get a nice deal on maybe some of those rare earth metals, but that they're not expected than to feed the poor and take care of the sick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: And when you are a super, when you are in the front of that metaphorical bicycle race, that's the flag that you're taking.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the responsibility that you take.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's one of the reasons that the rest of the world now really hates America and among other things is pulling back on some of the economic stuff because you don't get the one without the other.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, correct me if I'm wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: What you just described about us taking all the flag instead of China.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know most sounds like strategically,
[SPEAKER_03]: maybe it's not such a bad thing that the United States pulled out of all of that foreign aid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I hearing you wrong?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because you're hearing me wrong in that it's bad that the United States pulled out of that foreign aid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, foreign aid for an aid for for example, because well, yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look at look at post, post World War II Europe is a perfect example.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Europe used to have a, what became a World War level event every 30 to 50 years before World War I, it was pretty much a regional fest of hate and fighting and war every 30 to 50 years because that was the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: When the United States got in there after World War I, World War II, specifically World War II, we weren't as much in World War I, but anyway, um,
[SPEAKER_04]: When the United States decided to do some of the, what's now known as nation building, one of the things that we helped build was the thing that's now known as the EU.
[SPEAKER_04]: Basically, it is smarter and better for all of them, all the nations that are in the youth to work together, even if they have disagreements, because they make more money, and because they make more money, their economies are stronger, and because their economies are stronger, their people, in generally, if they manage things correctly, are healthier, and they have less problems, and they have more access to other resources in other parts of the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: You work better as a team because you can't do everything yourself.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know that being the United States, because that's been the way that we've been throughout our history.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it also works for other nations and other groups of nations.
[SPEAKER_04]: The African Union is starting to find that out.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're getting these groups of people around the world who are starting to figure this kind of thing out too.
[SPEAKER_04]: there is a limit however between what we what we carry and and yes the United States has carried I think a lot more of the weight than anybody else it also has a lot of them money and that's the other benefit to it right so when when when you do the work you get the other side of the benefit do I think that maybe the U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: was carrying too much of the burden of being the world's policeman
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we also have a baby, but we also had all the benefit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now it seems like China gets to kind of swoop in and have its cake and eat it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they don't get to eat it as far as, you know, being able to say, yes, they get the minerals.
[SPEAKER_04]: They get some of those things.
[SPEAKER_04]: But now they're being expected to do the things we used to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take care of the poor, take care of the sick, take care of the hungry.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the argument that's going on in China right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we like the minerals and we like the resources, but crap, you mean we got to take care of the people too?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, if you want to keep those contracts going, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly, Jody's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So hopefully that clears that up a little bit, B&D.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_04]: History minor here, thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, we were talking a little bit about the farm crisis.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, we talked about a little bit on Friday with Karen and Anita in the after hours, which you can listen to for free at the politics bar attack, and we put up some of those clips there as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: The BDD, you were saying that you weren't quite sure you didn't quite get all the details on the whole thing, but you did mention the best thing, which I had not heard.
[SPEAKER_04]: What does this be something that the Secretary of
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so Treasury Secretary Scott Pescent was pictured reading a text from agriculture, Secretary Brooke Rollins, which says Argentina sold a large amount of soybeans to China when we would normally be selling to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: This gives China more leverage over us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And another thing says we bailed out Argentina and in return they went and bought soybeans from China.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it's interesting and there's a picture of the guys phone open with the email.
[SPEAKER_04]: The fact that the send opened open it where a reporter could see it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: These are all competent people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: As a thought.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't exactly have good op-sec.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: The long as short of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the farm crisis.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we talked about it again.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll refresh it for the people who missed it in the after hours.
[SPEAKER_04]: The way that it works, we all know Trump's tariffs in this first term were complete looser.
[SPEAKER_04]: They hurt farmers, they hurt rural Americans deeply, angered a lot of folks, one of the reasons that Joe Biden and Kamal Harris and Democrats won in 2020, but everybody forgot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they did a lot of those areas, and I still credit, I credit the right-wing propaganda media.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fox propaganda network newsmax, oh yeah, so just not news, OAN, right, all of those.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all of the right-wing propaganda sources that are out there, because they keep pushing these lies.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as we know, propaganda works when you repeat it over and over and over and by the way, propaganda works when you repeat it over and over and over.
[SPEAKER_08]: And drinking will affect your memory.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think drinking affects your memory.
[SPEAKER_04]: It affects your memory.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's again, Judi is right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yes, so here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: For whatever reason, they forgot.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they have their biases, we all have ours.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what happened is, so the Argentina economy has been absolutely going to hell, because their authoritarian leader, Havier, Malay, is an insane right-wing libertarian nut job, who's basically destroyed rapidly the economy and the entire government of Argentina.
[SPEAKER_04]: But because he's a right-wing, he's the guy who gave Elon Musk the big chainsaw,
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, kind of a nut, but he's also unsurprisingly an ally of Trump.
[SPEAKER_04]: So as Argentina's economy was going down and Trump, of course, put the tariffs back in, China was starting to look for another place to buy soybeans.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they put on pause all purchases of soybeans from the United States.
[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, we had, um, uh, believe billion, 12.6 billion dollars in soybeans from the U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: is what China bought last year, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not buying zero dollars in U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: So again,
[SPEAKER_04]: But they did say that they might buy some some soybeans from the U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: Come the end of the year because they're like, oh, well, you know, we bought this.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is what the futures market is.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is where other nations or other groups, and they buy, oh, you know, next month will buy you this.
[SPEAKER_04]: But currently China is buying zero soybeans.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Argentina, of course, their economies are going to hell.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do a lot of soybean growth there.
[SPEAKER_04]: They said to China, hey, we'll sell you some, but right now, we have a 26% export tax on soybeans.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which, look, they're not as many nations as you might think that sell soybeans.
[SPEAKER_04]: But China said, okay, at least it's not the U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're pissed at Donnie anyway.
[SPEAKER_04]: So screw this fine, we'll buy some.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then percent, and some of the other right-winged
[SPEAKER_04]: made this deal with Argentina that we would basically float them 20 billion dollars a 20 billion dollar loan if you will might be forgivable basically and prop up their economy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And because of that, the Argentinians dropped their 26% soybean export tax.
[SPEAKER_04]: And when they did that suddenly China went, well, hell, that's a good deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll buy twice the number of soybeans from you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... the art of the deal yeah no anyway so and then donny says he gives us vague thing that we'll take the the tear of money and we'll give some kind of of benefit to the farmers now maybe from the braskar i know this farmers don't
[SPEAKER_04]: they claim they don't want socialism.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do, but they die.
[SPEAKER_04]: They would prefer to have the markets that they worked 30 years to get.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you're not going to get those markets back very quickly, because the Chinese, like most of the rest of the world, doesn't trust the United States.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And why would they jump?
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anybody really?
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: After everything that we've gone through last 10 years, everything the rest of the world has gone through, because of this jackass Trump and the idiots who
[SPEAKER_04]: So they don't trust us, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, Trump says, oh, I'll give a subsidy to farmers to help them out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he did that last time too, but that still didn't prevent the farm crisis, and it didn't prevent a lot of farmers, and it didn't prevent a lot of farm families from losing their farms.
[SPEAKER_04]: It has to prevent a lot of small businesses and rural areas from losing their businesses.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, can I say something?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know what to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, JD Vance and Trump invested in companies that snatch up farms that go into a receiver ship or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that doesn't surprise me at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's that's that's Vulture Corporateism.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's exactly what that is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is crazy because the very policies that they put in place that are hurting these farmer farmers that are causing
[SPEAKER_03]: to vultures like J.D.
[SPEAKER_03]: Vance and Trump, it's almost like they set it up in such a way that they're guaranteed to benefit and that's a guarantee.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is, I'm trying to remember who wrote the book on Vulture Corporateism because there's a very good book on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll have to look at my library just around the corner here and mention that tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, um,
[SPEAKER_04]: that is part of vulture corporatism is that you destroy the stuff on the front and then you make money on the back end as well to it all the time they're doing it with real estate they're doing it with movies with all kinds of stuff yeah and that's uh and that that is does the nature and i i firmly believe that's one of the things we have to to work work when we get back in when the good folks get back in power work to get rid of
[SPEAKER_03]: But guys, remember when Trump said that he makes more money when the country is going to help.
[SPEAKER_06]: And of course he does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where people are losing money, that's when he makes money.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's when, that's what rich people do.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what vulture corporatism is.
[SPEAKER_04]: They are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is testing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there should be laws and rules against that.
[SPEAKER_04]: My mother always says there should be laws against it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, somebody who is convicted of the kinds of things that Donald Trump has been a fraud to block that from you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't run for president.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think anything fraud related, yes, you should be blocked.
[SPEAKER_06]: Other than that, certain felonies, like pop position or things like that, you know, come on.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, as far as the farm crisis goes, yes, the farmers themselves, the farmers in the rural voters, a lot of them did that to themselves.
[SPEAKER_04]: But even more, we are now all of us taxpayers, red states and blue states and red cities and blue cities alike.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are going to be paying for the, the,
[SPEAKER_04]: welfare to the farmers, we're going to be paying the $20 billion to prop up the Argentinian economy and we're paying all of the tariffs for China, art of the deal my ass.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's so that I hope that that kind of helps explain where the farm crisis is now and who's to blame and it's all the people who voted for Republicans because it's not just those Republicans who were in Congress, the ones who want to crash the economy,
[SPEAKER_04]: because they're not, and the big thing, the big thing again on that with the shutdown, the Republicans, the thing that they're mad, the thing that they're most angry about, the Democrats are saying, is we just want you guys not to be able to welcome the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we want you guys to, when we make a budget deal with you Republicans, we Democrats want to make sure that you don't have the ability to well-chon the deal to go back and do what you did this summer.
[SPEAKER_04]: After we'd already made a temporary budget deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't know everybody remembers this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's easy stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: There were decisions exactly exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I like that sound.
[SPEAKER_06]: It sounds right.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a great.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what we have.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have a bell around here at the bar specifically because it is a great.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why we also have a buzzer because, you know, bells and buzzers, you know, you went straight.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't like that sound.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it helps get the point across, and the point is, is that, you know, it was April, I believe.
[SPEAKER_04]: And a lot of us didn't want Schumer to make the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Schumer pushed us, was it 10 Democrats to sign on and they made the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And one of the big things that wasn't discussed by the mainstream media back then was, if Democrats don't make a deal that blocks decisions and that blocks this, Russ Vaughn.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jack asked at OMB office of management and budget the guy who wants to fire tens of thousands of Americans tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to go in and he's going to cut out something and what they decided to target was NPR and PBS and some of the other foreign aid that they hadn't already cut out exactly sure enough this summer what did they cut out NPR and PBS and some of the other foreign aid that they hadn't already cut out.
[SPEAKER_04]: If we make another deal with these
[SPEAKER_04]: And we don't say, as part of the deal, you can't go in and just cut stuff out that you don't like every time they make another budget deal, whether it is a full budget or whether it is a continuing resolution, you can make up to three different decisions.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, because of the way that decisions are done, it's a technical thing, but the long and short is it's usually only two decisions that you get because of the way that they're packaged.
[SPEAKER_04]: But usually you can get at least two resisions out of every new.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that means every time they sign another CR, they could do more resisions.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a limit on the on the dollar amount of the.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't be anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_04]: As long as they have as long as they have the votes in the house and the votes in the Senate.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the the president will sign it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So why would you agree to any budget deal?
[SPEAKER_04]: Knowing that five minutes later, the Republicans are going to go, yeah, you know that deal I made with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm going to change that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Effort.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you, yeah, yeah, why would I think it's, I think it's important to keep banging the drum.
[SPEAKER_03]: that Republicans control the House, they control the Senate and they control the White House.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if there's any government shutdown, it is on the Republicans period, they're trying to do that repeat until it becomes reality propaganda nonsense and say that, oh, Democrats are trying to give
[SPEAKER_04]: The first thing from the truth, the levels of ask are, first, let's not have you guys cheat us.
[SPEAKER_04]: Secondly, we'd like an extension of some of the ACA stuff, like a permanent extension of the, so that people don't lose their healthcare in two weeks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Third and third, we'd also like to, you know, make sure that some of the crap that you guys got in the big ugly bill is taken back because that stuff is hurting people too.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the three levels of asks, but when you look at it in the mainstream media, the first thing they'll say is, well, it's about the ACA, and also they want to get rid of some of the stuff in the big beautiful bill.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then there's this thing that we think you guys are too stupid to understand about, we don't even use the word precision, so we're not going to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We know you ain't idiots.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's how you do it Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sweet dream.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right
[SPEAKER_04]: week at a start cleaning up the bar bd he's going to hang out with us a little bit more for after hours because that's usually what we do in a Monday night and also he's dancing right now so you know it's hard to hard to get that information look you want to go to defiant dispatches we have the link to defiant dispatches in the gas section of the news on tap today at the politics bar he will have a brand new post for you tomorrow but you can read his other post that's also a really good one on Jimmy Kimmel and the uh yes speech issues
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have a couple of great guests.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have Jared Rizzi, our wonderful Capitol Hill correspondent, and we have Charles Gabba, the expert from ACA signups who has all the details on all the healthcare stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll get all of that taken care of.
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