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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Sermon podcast from Church at the Well and Telsin Merlin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To learn more about Church at the Well, visit our website, thewellbultmore.com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, here's today's Sermon from our pastor, Dane Carreway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that, you know, everybody understands that, like this is it, like summer's like, I don't know when you say summer's over, summer's over when the kids go back to school with summer over at Labor Day or is it like September 21st, but I feel like this is like the last stop, like once it's over, my daughter's already been like trying to get us to my apple cider, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was like so early and then here's the thing and I know like this is the pastries in the talk about but I so I reserved the right to do that I was in Sam's club last week and you could say anything you want about American culture and all the things that we do wrong here's the one that we need to be paying attention to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will vote for the president that says that stores have to start advertising Halloween candy and Christmas lights at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like put that on a ballot and I'll be like, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kidding guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we're in a so last week and literally in one aisle it's all of the scary stuff and Halloween candy and then the next style over is like Christmas lights, Christmas presents, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, we're going too fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's still summer, pools are still open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So last week, if you're here, we got the opportunity to celebrate baptism was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to, I want to say a big thank you to everybody that helped us move the baptism more and get all the water out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of an idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We learned a lot last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One, people in our church are pretty strong too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot easier to move the baptism more if you take the water out first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many guys does it take to move about this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We learned a lot about, I want to say, thank you up at Auschwitz special to celebrate that with Abby in our whole church.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we think about what we've been and even like last week, and the idea of the book of Acts, as you see the start of the church, kind of the history of what it would mean to follow Jesus and the history of how to come into relationship with Jesus, not just individually, but corporately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been wrapping our minds around it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been like everything has changed and not just personally, but culturally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to give it to this part of like the latter half of the book of Acts and you're going to see us like combine some ideas you're going to see us like you know like we did last week tour like we're viewed some ideas that kind of bring it forward and how we can kind of get ready to leave on this book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But um the idea we have this morning is going to be something that not just refers back to what we already looked at in this book but what we looked like we looked at in past series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You may remember this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't been in the book of Romans a lot, but the Romans chopped the one, Paul says some like, weird language.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I encourage you like, I'm not going to read it now, but this will be something that maybe you talk about in community circles, maybe you wrote it in your own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Paul is pretty harsh in what he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He opens his letter like he does most letters, reading to you, I Paul, I'm from there, and Paul is like writing to the people

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's like writing to his people that would have known him and his friends and he's being like a little bit more forward with the gospel and it's, it may, it may sound a little harsher or a little bit strong in his language and he does this in Reverend chapter one and when he's saying like, there are people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that know the truth about who Jesus is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are people who like who they have turned their ears off from what they know to be true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've dealt with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've reasoned with it and they've chosen to do what's evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they are recruiting others to turn away too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just stop for a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we got to remember it's good to kind of think about what

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so a lot of times we're thinking about what Paul's probably talking to the like, the big bad atheist of the day, or he's probably talking about like the, you know, like the, the people that were working the Greek temples and things like that, maybe, but so far in the book of Acts, who have been the people that have been the most opposed to Jesus, the Jewish leaders, maybe the descendants of the people that would have been present.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the the the arresting and crucifying of Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are the ones that Paul's pointing to it saying, well, they know the truth because they were the same prophet of Isaiah that I have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had the same Bible that I have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like he's been made known to them and they've had to like turn off the truth of what he's revealed them to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know this is possible because you know, like there have been fair season folks that have come at night, you know, and have come and talked to Paul, have talked to the other disciples to kind of get on the other side of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are and Paul kind of has this idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's what he says in the drama one, I'm parapasing you go read this for yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Paul would say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are some of us that we've come to the point where, when, follow Jesus as a deal, love Jesus, no Jesus, He has flipped my life around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've come to know and believe in follow Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the decision that I've made in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's a majority of people, there's a big, that's people that are lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they've got questions, maybe they're trying to figure it out, maybe they just haven't fully wrapped their heads around to see it, or maybe they're the the the the pop culture or maybe they're seeking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's got to be more to life, like we've got kids now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're trying to figure out, like, does it do belong to this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does this matter to us?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in college now and I'm trying to figure out, like, you know, what's the college experience or how I'm being an adult?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is my parents' faith, but I don't know if this is my faith, like, like, you know, all of that, or if this is really true, they say that, like, then you do know that the most searched,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Questions, maybe not this year, but I think like a couple of years ago, want to take up the most search like questions and TikTok searches were spiritual questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spiritual questions, people just trying to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People are trying to wrap their heads around it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Bible calls people lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that lost is like, as a derogatory word, but there's just another way of knowing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody been lost before when you're driving in the car, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, you know, like, you, there we go, awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just tell the truth, you know, like, it just just being lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of times in church world, we use lost as a derogatory word, even if we don't mean to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Loss is a, is a signal word of, well, you know, I'm found.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been following Jesus for X amount of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not fun to be in loss and we have to stop seeing people as being lost and like as a, as a, you know, as a, they don't have the, they have an earned that badge and cup scouts yet, you know what I mean, it's not a varsity letter as being found.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because what here's what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we look at people as being lost, we actually put them in another category, which would, what must happen one would see like these are people that are rebellious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are people that are, that they have a love for evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They choose an evil over Solomon Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for us, if we sit in our church world, so if you think of it as a scale, so Jen's down there and the evil doers gang, that's Jen over there, just evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just wrong, evil hates the cross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has debited her life to be anything and everything against Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm over here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, Ian and Christina, they're just lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got questions, they're just trying to raise the family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just trying to figure out what's the best thing to do and they're looking for meaning in their life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to look for some guidance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now here's what, here's what the church world does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We would say we would just look down this line and we'd say, well, then they just evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They all just need Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now mind you, then hates me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, then hates me and everything I stand for and the God that I serve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again puts up 20, you know, podcasts or videos a year talking about how dumb and evil Christians are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Genesis the person who lumps every single type of Christian, you know, together and says they're all bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what I do is that I look down to slide and I say, you know what all of these people are saying, all these people are bad, all these people are terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what we would see in Romans chapter one, and what we would see, and what we're going to read here in Acts, is there is a way that not only I can reach Ian and Christina who are lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in my reaching, in cursing it out of our loss, it actually softens and the whole spirit has work to do to the people that have sworn against the cross that are determined that they're rebels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because a lot of times we just kind of like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: throw things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I put up this quote, if I put up this Bible verse or even if like, you know, I just like, I talk down about all of these, especially like the big names, you know, the big atheist names or the big folks that that are sworn against what we believe, then like, you know, maybe something will happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're called to reach the lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We allow God to break the hearts, we allow God to do some things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had family listening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've had family in my life that literally mocked me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time I came around, there's like, you're wasting your life being a pastor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my God, my job was just to show up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My job was to take the hits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go to the barbecue, I'm gonna go talk to Uncle So and So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna listen to them, tell me how I wasted my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna ask him, how do you think the rest is gonna do this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because my job was to keep the relationship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What we're going to see here in the past is this morning is that we have to help people flip from skepticism to eagerness, that by that showing up, by that's invoicing it, by us being willing to answer the questions by us being willing to point to God's word, it helps flip people from not just being skeptics, but being eager to learn more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How he, you know, like he, he just had questions about what he was reading and it turned for him not just to be eager to learn more, but to get baptized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're looking at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I stepped to 17, studying verse 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That very night, the believers sent Paul and Salas to Burya, when they arrived there, they went to the Jewish synagogue, and the people of Burya were more open minded to those and best of luck like that, and they listened to eagerly the Paul's message, they searched the scriptures day after day to see if Paul and Salas were teaching the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As a result, many Jews believed as the many of the prominent Greek women and men.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when some Jews and Thessalonica learned that Paul was preaching the Word of God in Borea, they went there and stood up trouble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The believers acted at once, sinning Paul on the coast while silence and Timothy remained behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those escorting Paul went with him and all the way to Athens, then they returned to Borea with instructions for silence and Timothy to her and join him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here's the question we're after today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do we help folks?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, like a lot of times we like to, we make a mistake with the evangelism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We think that we say like we're sharing Jesus with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we think like it's us versus them, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We think that as a fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't a boxing match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not trying to beat somebody into submission to Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the goal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those other, the loss is trying to help them get home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The exhibit I like to use a lot of times is my stepdad, he had a map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you'd most of my life this is always someone older, where they have like a map of whatever city that they live close to, to a no matter where you are in the city.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need somebody like this, they can help get you home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my grandfather was like, this way, Jim's dad was like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would be in DC, sometimes he would have me come down to his office and bring him something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would be like, what's your cost streets?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would guide me home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was so good where he would say, hey, is there a red house on the right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we saw on that house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was that good to where he would just help meet me home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The goal was

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody get home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The goal was for me to get where they're going, but he had to communicate it to me in a way to help accomplish it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the question for us is, do we do that when someone is trying to find their way is our goal to help them get there and the way that we help them communicate in a way that makes sense to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times we do like one size fits all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have this person who they're just their life is not right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're they're they're not living for the Lord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to bring them the church, and Pastor Dane is going to preach a fire reservant, and it's going to change their life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that I got news for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like good luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like that's it can't you can't just be that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can't trust me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It can't just be like the bring and wait and see type of model.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we're after how do we know people who are seeking the truth?

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[SPEAKER_01]: First thing is this, we help them by meeting them where they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We help people because we meet them where they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Verse 10 says, that very night, the believers sent Paul and silence to Brewer when they arrived there, they went to the Jewish synagogue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, remember this from a few weeks back, this was Paul's rhythm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul's like, this was his thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't sitting around waiting to say, like, I am on mission to share Jesus and as soon as somebody comes and sits down across me from this coffee shop, you know, this new testament coffee shop, then I'll share Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go far away to the well outside the city and I'm gonna wait for people to show up there and then I'll share Jesus if they asked the right questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No problem to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul made it a point to go there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said that, like, Paul, at this era of Paul's journey, at his missionary journey, that he was like, have like a Jewish, you know, like a mission.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He made it a point that I'm gonna go to the Jewish synagogues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go to the spot because I need to reach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to tell my brothers and sisters that the Messiah that we were waiting for, that he's came in like that already, that we killed them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that this is what's happened, this is what's taking place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was, that was his goal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul goes to the synagogue force, not because it's safe, but because that's where people who are asking questions about God are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember Paul would go and he wouldn't just preach a sermon, he would go and reason with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would go and use the, you know, what they knew at the Old Testament, he would go and use that to reason with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would go and have the uncomfortable conversations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for some of us like sometimes like that that's the hard part is that when we meet people whether at it's it's not always comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know like the different levels of people and like in how you can like what a lot of people do like so I've already started working on it so in January we're going to have a series and we're going to talk about the four different versions of you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like it's the you that you allow everybody to see the the you that only some people see that you that you don't see and and this is this is kind of that a little bit it's the idea that you know I'm going to come to you and I'm going to hopefully get as close as possible so that you will allow me into the parts that you know you got questions about you have questions and especially as it relates to who you're who you worship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for your head at two words, who you're living for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we assume that people don't care, but a lot of people do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We assume that people are just like, you know, like the past with them, that people are just living for themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a lot of time on soccer, sidelines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I'm not coaching, just watching my kids, I believe that a lot of people are good dads and good moms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be dumb to think that just because like, they don't go to church on Sundays, that they're not trying to do their best for their kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, and sometimes I'm like, use parents or better better parents than me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're doing the baby Lee, like, is loving their kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't like, I was talking to my yesterday, I was like, so which research what today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, between our four kids, we started at 6 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we won't be home until afternoon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh, my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're doing what you think is best in loving your kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we'll obviously hear you say, like, what is that really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to find?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, in their mind and their friend, whatever it is, this is what loving their kids looks like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do that for anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do that for anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We take our kids on three vacations to share because we love our kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People do whatever they do because they think like this, you know, because it's what they think, what they're doing, saying that we can do this for husbands and wives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do this because this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so for a lot of us, we can't think that as believers that people just don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just because you would call it sin or just because you would call it wrong, doesn't mean it doesn't mean something to people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And people trying to find a purpose to try to find meaning, they're trying to find community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now here's the thing, all of those things seem to be rendered towards Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of those things seems to be looked at in a light of what God would do not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the learning for those things, for purpose, for community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that we come from a holy God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, God wants us to belong to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, like, remember, like, like way back in the beginning of Genesis, it's not good for man to be alone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like all these yearnings that in it's good when we can show people like, hey, listen, like you are looking for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were looking for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times, I'll preach to teenagers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, I'll do something like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are you guys like stressed out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you like, is a big buzzword in teenagers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you facing like, like, like you're feeling anxious all the time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you feeling like, you know, you're always tired and you can never catch up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're trying everything that you're trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether it be going to the gym, whether it be doom scrolling, whether it be this, this, this, this, and this, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doomschooling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what my favorite words.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doomschool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you trying to find whatever you're looking for and doing those things?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if I told you what you're looking for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're never going to find the things that you're doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You may be entertained.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You look along and up you find a funny video that you'll send to 20 people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go spend eight hours a day in the gym.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll come out jet and you'll look great in the grocery store.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but you're never going to find the purpose in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What if I told you there's something else?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I believe that people are looking for something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that people are trying to find something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that people care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There would be no talk of addiction to people in care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we were trying to find something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they got a glimpse of it one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now they've given their life to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that what addiction is?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I felt good one time, two times, a few times, and now they've given their life into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But many people, they care, but they just still know where to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one told them where to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No one's been willing to get close enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Paul shows up to the synagogue because they're like, well, these people, they're here because they care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're here because they have questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've come to the place that rockers into God, the deity, and their culture, and they're here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's help in our culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you were old enough to remember, how packed was the church that you went to on 9-11?

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[SPEAKER_01]: like everything had changed and so people were like this doesn't make sense I got to go somewhere where I think it should, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we have to help people about me and where they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have to make sure that when people come to us, when people who are seeking, when people have questions, we go to them and to their world and to their context with their questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a healthy one being the where they are, but we also

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to encourage open minds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Verse 11 says, and the people of Barriot were more open-minded than those of Thessalonica and they listened to eagerly to pause message.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were open-minded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were trying that, like they didn't come with pre-conceived judgments and we have to encourage that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The brands I've described is more open-minded or noble, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Skeppicism isn't the same as hostility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, I love our student age community circle, like high school and some college kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I love them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They come with questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They come with like, you know, there's a couple of last week where they're like, what about this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, man, I, like, then I gotta like go back and take my new testament survey class sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, dang, like, I know, look, I'm really, I'm pretty good with the Bible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But these kids come with questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it will be bad book, why are you asking that question?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, if you're going to listen, if you're going to give your life to this, like here's what I say, being a follower of Jesus, it is the best life you can choose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So best decision you can make with your life, but it's a hard living.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're going to make that decision, shouldn't you be able to ask some questions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not really like, no one goes up to a house that they want to buy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, pretty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At here, take all of my money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why does that ever happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You ever have ever settled in that quick?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, even buying a car, you're going to be there for an hour or two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you're going to buy into this, it's okay that people have overmines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay that people have overmines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay that people have overmines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay that people have overmines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just need some time to space the process and they need a friend that he's somebody who's they're willing the process with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of times that we as followers of Jesus, your followers Jesus, that the fear in doing this is when you don't know the answer to the question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can ask Bella Mason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's times when people ask your question, I'm like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, give me a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do some research on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I will take myself out of the place of pastor and become holy man, but I'm like, well, if you look at them in the Greek, that it means, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew it one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I tell you what, I took it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I took it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I took my class on Xbox and college, I got some notes on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me go back and read.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, sometimes it's just the class of day and don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it means that, like, you know, I'm less qualified because I don't know that I guess I'm less qualified.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think sometimes that we are scared to do that because in order for, we think that in order for someone to come to relationship with Jesus, that means that the person that they know who follows Jesus knows everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think there's a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that you have to like, you know, when Peter says this in a, when Peter says this in a, in first Peter, that always be read with an answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not what Peter's saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's saying, have an answer for why you believe what you believe, for the faith that you have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I believe God's word is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it's the inherent word of God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what's made that true is what God is my experience with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My experience with what God's done in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How I've seen God's word come true in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How I've seen God's word come true in what He says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's defended it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of times that we feel that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even this comes when people feel safe to ask questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And not safe that you're going to have the answer, but safe that you will enter a reason with them, with their questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you ask questions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you ship down questions or do you create space for them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For your parents, for your friends, coworkers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they know that they can ask you about your faith?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do people around you know that they can ask you about your faith?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have to encourage open minds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're also going to help people by pointing them to Scripture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Verse 11, they search the Scriptures day every day to see if Paul and Silas were teaching the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So remember the context.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the New Testament wasn't written yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was being written.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luke's there, like the God who's writing his book is there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Paul and Silas are reasoning with them based on the Old Testament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going back to the prophets, they're going back to Isaiah and they're going back to the other prophets and pointing to like this is the Jesus that was being written about this is the Messiah that was being written about hundreds years before so this is you know this is the line like like you guys should be able to draw a line from here to here and be able to see this and so those guys were like okay we hear what you're saying now we're going to go and read it for ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go and see if this matches up with what you're preaching is winds up with what's been told in Reno.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the scariest things that I was reminded of at a passage conference last year was that he has a hope that you know that you're being fact checked in real time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, like, you know, I looked down on one Sunday and when I got to my pulpit, there were three cell phones on my pulpit and I looked at one and I was being transcribed because some teenager had walked up with a cell phone and like, like, you know, and it was recording me reading and he was going to run it through a Google search to like, you know, to do with like fact checking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to see if I was accurate and what I was teaching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we're here now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's 2025, baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, no one's taking the pastor's work for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem with my thing is that I love the Pew Research and Barnard Group and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the problem I have, that someone wrote them in either one time says, hey, hey, Dan, you gave this stuff about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it said it was like 25% of believers do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I looked it up, and it's actually 20%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you got me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, my bad, it's things changed in the year, my bad, but that's the world that we're living into, where people are looking for truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just talking to a student community sort of about this, that one of the coolest things about this Gen Z is that, you know, when the world doesn't make sense, when everything is kind of like changing some flips on his head and even like having they haven't gone and remembered what happened with COVID and how

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[SPEAKER_01]: just society has changed and people stop trusting each other and all of the divides and all of the things like, is this really true, is this really true?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That you saw a generation of young people that were like, yeah, we're trying to find something to hold on to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's real?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's true?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we rely on it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it gonna be there when we get back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this something that I can base my life on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the coolest things about the gospel at this point in time is like, well, well, that's, that seems steady.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That seems something I can put my trust in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Non-the-paster, non-the church with God's word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The truth about what Jesus says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're kind of seeing the result to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're seeing the harvest of this now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last week at Ohio State, like thousands of kids getting baptized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing big numbers in Europe, like big numbers of like worship gatherings and young people, big movements of God in different places all over the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's kind of the result of like in a mixed step world where the culture is flipped upside down, that the gospel is kind of steady.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we help people by pointing them to Scripture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It says that they search the Scripture's door and let the tear down Paul, but the test what he said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Truth seekers don't want you opinion, they want God's truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of times, like people kind of can pick us up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is what I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, like, tell us what Jesus said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's what they're like, I would point to you, I would be somebody that would say, you're story, you're testimony with God as done in your life is very important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would hand hold it hand in hand what God has done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it sounds like this is like, here's who I am, here's what God has done in the life of Dane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's how scripture backs that up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sharing you what God has done in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sharing you what Jesus has done and how it's changed me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm also like showing you

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, uh, instead of winning the dates, point to the back of the board, we have all the answers, but you can invite when to open the Bible with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the authority from me to God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the ultimate authority.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the holy man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not the guy that like you got to get next to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can, they can be checked on the, on the right list when it's time to go to heaven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No God's the authority.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to go and deal with it on their own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know the best thing about that is you can like like sometimes like it feels like being the pastor or being the guy that's sharing these people on the car salesman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get you the buy-in to what I'm what I'm giving you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we point people to God's word, God doesn't just like you speak for himself, but God's word, you don't read God's word, God's word reads you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that that works is like I can't I can't somebody who like would look at God's word and read about how a love and God sent to send to die for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the words that come off of that page or screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't it doesn't just read like a book of Harry Potter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets intrusive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually looking in the my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It starts making me deal with the toughness of the word that it says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I have to face like around like, am I going to buy into what the God of the universe is saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what Pastor Dane is saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or not what Brian is like, it's, I have to deal with what God's word says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, I tell people what God's in the my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I back it up with scripture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I get out of the way so God can do what he needs to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we point them in the scripture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we help them a showing patient to the process, which 12 says, as a result, many Jews believe at the many of the prominent, Greek women and of men.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, remember we'll be point by this before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're not just talking about the Jewish culture there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, are those that are part of that community, but here being in the city that it's in in Brea, Greeks were there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So about Paul's written, there's by his sharing,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Other folks are coming in their Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mainly, it came after such an descriptors day by day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to be patient in the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably people in your life, if you're following Jesus, that you were hoping that you would invite them to camp one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that one time, somebody would be so awesome dynamic funny that they would be like, I'm ready to cry and lay on the floor and accept Jesus today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of you, you've been like, I've been praying for this person to come and know Jesus for 25 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was being in the relationship that I had with my stepdad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was being in my mom today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's been long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a long game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of us could be like, God, you ain't done it yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I want everything microwaved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'd rather reason with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's so many stats that show like if someone accepts Jesus as a teenager that they probably follow away from their faith at some point and then maybe they'll come back if they come back at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then there's more stats that show that when someone becomes an adult in a post 25 range that if they make a decision, follow Jesus that they're probably locked in for the rest of their life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they're making an adult decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: buying a car, I mean coal talk by this all the time, like he's excited about one day buying a car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The car myself wants to buy an 11 and could be the car that he's going to buy when he's in his 30s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 11, it's like, what's the bat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you know what I mean, like it's like it's some fun and fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm like, can the reds fit in the back seat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I carry groceries and a chair for soccer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are there safety features?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know stuff like that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different decision, I wonder if we're willing to be patient with the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying don't share Jesus, not saying like they don't pursue people, but are you willing to pray the long game, not pray the long game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you willing to pray the long game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you willing to allow someone's name in their face to be the reason why you wake up 15 to 30 minutes early every day?

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[SPEAKER_01]: because you're praying for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not just waiting for a miracle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not waiting for God to do something that, you know, like that you want them to do, but she doesn't want to have any involvement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you willing to pray the longer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you willing to be patient in the process of what God's doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Faith is often a process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a journey from doubt to trust.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We entrust God with the names of people that we want to come and know him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't expect instill results keep walking with people because God works over time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a plant that you put in the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You come back and check it every day and not water it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be something that you've got to pray the long game through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to help people by showing patience in the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last but not least, we have to help people by protecting the pursuit of truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First, their team says, but when some Jews, if that's the one I could learn, that Paul was preaching the word of God,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and believe that they weren't there and stood up trouble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The leaders acted as once, sending Paul onto the coast when silence and Timothy remain behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those escorting Paul went with him and all the way to Athens and they returned to believe that with instructions for silence and Timothy, the hurry and join him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that we have to understand you have to help, do believe we understand is that opposition's coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for these folks that were like, they're not after the gospel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to kill Paul because Paul's

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it comes in different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here what we see is jealousy, hostility, stirring up trouble, that they were trying to snuff out this global movement at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Koreans wanted truth, but there were others who wanted to stop them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just wanted to die.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was hurting, like it was hurting these Jewish leaders, it was hurting the bottom line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were losing profit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When people say, oh, what is your business?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, well, we don't need to give you the temple tax anymore because, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, all glory and it's due to God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I paying you to intersect with God?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Paul just says that the bell was ripped, and now we can access God in a different way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to come here anymore as it pertains to my faith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it was different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The believers acted quickly to protect Paul and to keep the work moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think a lot of times, like I've said this before, one time I showed a video, one of the biggest obstacles that comes from the outside of the church world is that when they see that we're not working hard, when they see that Christians that, well, if all this is true, why aren't you doing more in your community?

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, like you guys are just getting around the people that you like and come in and sing and songs on Sunday and sometimes there's food.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, like you guys are like, pretty much country club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You ever see like an advertisement for new members at a like a golf course or a or a country club?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've never seen that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously like like you go down like a Baltimore country club nice like bit of fence outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's on the have seen members only.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exclusive you know I'm saying like stuff like that no access not a public road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if people would be shocked to see that outside of our churches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if people would like, if that's the view of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes, you can get discouraged by attacks or doubts or resistance, or infernally when we're insulated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to come alongside and guard them as they grow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's our job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The goal was never about making converts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was never about just convincing people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop doing this, start doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's why our satisfaction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we were like Christians like we go after this sin that we find ugly, but we're really cool with the other uglyness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have our thieves over sin that bothers me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're pretty cool with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never heard of a pastor being removed from his position from pride.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never heard of an elder being told to step down

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but when I read like that the qualifications have an elder of the two of the big ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's things that we're cool with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What we have to do, the who we have to become is it's folks that we are protecting the pursuit of truth for our folks and we create an environment that welcomes them in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We get come alongside and garden as they grow, so we're going to be with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That we have to be with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of God flips our skepticism into eagerness that when we approach people, we don't just view them as the evil doers like Jen, like we don't just view them as those folks, that we view them as people that are lost in their seeking and are trying to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We help see those means that we meet with them where they are, we encourage their openness, we point in the scripture, we show patience and protective pursuit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's our question, who in your life,

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[SPEAKER_01]: do you see such and for truth?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not saying that they're posting on their Instagram or posting on their Facebook, well, somebody please tell me of Jesus' real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm talking about someone whose life has been flipped upside down and they're trying to figure out what's the next step.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When someone is like, I've got to make a decision if I'm gonna go move back home or do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about people that they're at crossroads and they're like, and they're making tough decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that like we have um um you know like I mean using a global scale and then we'll kind of dial it back into family and personal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like COVID was like they call it a cultural convulsion to where like like the world wasn't the same after this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of them would have been like a cultural convulsion where you can't like we like our world is different than this because of this happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I wonder, I kind of made it a thing I wasn't going to spend time on it, but it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I wonder if there's other things, well, like, you know, that that have come up where we think that it's that, but it may be more personal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then, then, then actual cultural, like, I was, I was shocked, like, a lot of the, uh, guys of my soccer team were really affected by, um, uh, the gentleman, uh, Charlie Kirk passing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it was a thing and I was even talking to another to a youth pastor out in Ohio and I was saying, hey, it's just like, my soccer guy is like, I didn't, I didn't really know who he was, they were really like a lot of them really knew who he was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this like a thing like a going on in your group?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy told me he said, I asked my kids the same thing and what they said was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that they won't like, it was meaningful, but it would have been, you said a bigger one would have been like when Cody Bryant died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you remember where you were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, okay, wow, that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like cultural convulsions, like big things that happened in the world to what like you remember where you were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys what me so far?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's, that's where it would have been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Personal, personal ones, personal convulsions would have been, I remember one grandma died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't go to grandma's house anymore, because grandma died.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, I remember when the car, we got in a bad accident in the car, and we don't have that car anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, our world is different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember when like, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We used to live on this on Temple Hills Road and a drunk driver came off the road, Temple Hill is a hill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he came off the road and crashed into the side of our house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That effected us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, it like our world changed because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was like everything had to be, had to be a different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we think about when someone is searching for truth,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't do to think about it as someone like standing there like, please somebody like tell me about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's somebody saying like, yeah, this this this this is strange like my world is upside down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My world is different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's changed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hurricanes, national disasters like, you know, like big storms, blizzards and fires in California like these people like they they they remember and they like like these are markers and things have changed and now they're trying to

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have your first kid, and used to be, get the keys, we're going out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's like, oh, we got a baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can the baby get, oh, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's a, it's a conversion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go on to lie to your left, and you ruined a lot of plants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a conversion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you have to think about it differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When people go through conversions whether cultural or personal they're looking for answers,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, let me split this for a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're somebody to where you're still trying to figure out, is it worth it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's not even like, it's just true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if I'm giving my life to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can be in enough to where I'm going to show up here on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be in enough to where I'm going to deal with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if I'm really willing to give my life to this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need you to go and fact check me, not just me, but the people around your life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need you to go see if it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need you to deal with the inwardly, not by yourself, but interdependently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I needed to be your pursuit, but also a pursuit that you're willing to share with the people around you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And anytime they have ever challenged somebody that's no one's ever said, yeah, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what happened here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like, okay, I hear what you're saying, Paul, let me go spend some time on that to see if what you said, the profits really said is really what they said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mead you to spend some time with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need you to get your questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in a certain way that the scripture would sell like Father Jesus is to be patient with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need you to be patient with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's go out to this together to see if it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it worth giving my life into, especially when the world's upside down and the world's convulsing and your culture's convulsing and at home and everything is like it's different?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to go look at it and see if it makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See if it's worth giving, given time to, given effort to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm set up here and said, hey, church, we give.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hard thing to ask people to give their finances to make it make sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's very comfortable like asking people for that because I think it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, we had a least call winner here and I'm like, yeah, when you get to our church, somebody goes to her because I think it's worth it and I'm the problem asking for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to see if it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So also on that side, if you're following Jesus in this whole series has been unapologetically about enhancing our evangelism, how do we flip the world upside down?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If this is you, you have to approach people seeking for truth, knowing that their world is convulsing, whether personal or the world, they've got both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you stepping in to help people who are seeking truth in a way that number one is not making you the holy man, not making you the authority, but making God's word the authority

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's stepping into their problems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna stop throwing the Bible at people and telling them to deal with it and ask if they have any questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes being a follower, Jesus, no, I'm sorry, not sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the times being a follower, Jesus means that I'm with you now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you, I'm gonna share with you in this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna share in your struggles, your pain, your stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I love you and I just don't want you to believe what I want to believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to have the joy of being with the Savior who loves us both in the midst of our mess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would've been a great right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I hadn't mess with the word.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just listened to a message from Dane Carreway, the pastor of church at the Well and Telsen, Maryland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To learn more about our church and to support what we're doing in the greater Baltimore area, visit our website, TheWelthBaultSomore.com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for tuning in to the Sermon Podcast from Church at the Well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May God bless you.

