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[SPEAKER_09]: Glad you guys are coming in here to follow the tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_05]: It's fine, Mayor Shawnee
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, we're having fun among other things.
[SPEAKER_09]: Donnie got his ass beat again today.
[SPEAKER_09]: We will talk about that.
[SPEAKER_09]: There is some shutdown news.
[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, the free speech war is on.
[SPEAKER_09]: And frankly, Trump and his cronies are going to lose that one.
[SPEAKER_09]: We will definitely talk about why and how and few other things as well.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm kind of stoked about a few things there.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Also, um, uh, Darrell via Blue Sky, uh, was talking about the Republicans and about how they have been just ridiculously going after the wrong people because of all this Charlie Kirk stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he said, remember, this is the same party that went into Iraq after 911.
[SPEAKER_09]: Why wouldn't they target the wrong people after Charlie Kirk's killing, which
[SPEAKER_09]: got to say Darrell.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's absolutely right.
[SPEAKER_09]: The party that can't shoot straight.
[SPEAKER_09]: The party that can't cat their eyeballs and get the same number twice.
[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, that's.
[SPEAKER_09]: So where do you want to start?
[SPEAKER_09]: You want to start with the the biggest one, the the free speech war that's going on with that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because quite frankly, they're going to lose this one.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I'm I'm so glad that we had Rebecca in
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, having great lawyer friends is a fantastic thing, and the fact that we have everybody from Elly, Mistahl, we've had all the way through to Rebecca, and a ton of great lawyers in between.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's extremely helpful.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: Especially when you're dealing with all this legal and political stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, okay, Trump is still suggesting the FCC could revoke the licenses of TV broadcasters that say things about him that he doesn't like.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, that's not legal.
[SPEAKER_09]: In fact, Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, that's the government cannot do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: ABC can fire you for whatever reason because that's their job.
[SPEAKER_05]: They can do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you say something that ABC says you can't say, then you're fired.
[SPEAKER_05]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a private employer and a private platform.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: You are not immune from
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, your contract says x, y and z. If you violate that contract, like if you violate the terms of Facebook or the terms of Twitter or the terms of blue sky, they can take you down because that's what you have agreed to do being on said platform or said network or said TV show.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if you're playing within those rules, the government can't come in and say no.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, and there's other things too, the government can't do undue coercion or what Rebecca was pointing us out to yesterday, which is that the whole fight here in the first amendment is over viewpoint discrimination.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, we've got a couple of pieces of that first section today in the news on tap, the war over free speech, it is big, because there's a lot of news in there.
[SPEAKER_09]: First of all, Trump, by the way, we know that he doesn't give a damn about the law, but he violated his own executive.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know that's my favorite part of this.
[SPEAKER_05]: And say what you need that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_09]: They said, oh, well, they said, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're not going to censor any speech and then they want to censor speech.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because what that does, that exposes the fact that they want to censor your speech, right, not theirs, right, and that's, of course, the complete load of horse garbage.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, by the way, there is dissent inside Disney as we speak here this early evening on a Friday.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, there's a nice report there from deadline.com that we have in the news on tap talking about how there are people inside Disney and they had to have leaked to deadline.com, which is an entertainment public instance because didn't
[SPEAKER_09]: long time they they're well respected.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, that there's a fight.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are still fights and meetings going on about Jimmy Kimmel Um, being benched in and returning.
[SPEAKER_09]: And a lot of it happens to be the fact that Kimmel doesn't trust the executives at Disney any way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why would he?
[SPEAKER_09]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_09]: 100% agree.
[SPEAKER_09]: Why would he?
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he didn't have his back.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_09]: When the right wing came for him,
[SPEAKER_09]: The exact it is with which Bob Iger is in a lot of horse.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's in a lot of hot water.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean John Fiegel sang set on Stephanie show today that what Iger should have done and I met him and he was very charming.
[SPEAKER_05]: What he should have done was said, okay, affiliates, the 200 that's in clear owns, and next are, whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's 200 cities, basically, in a very big country, mind you.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, you guys can preempt them all you want, but we're going to have his show on our streaming platform.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's the same thing that he said here in the bar last night that John said last night, right here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then he would have looked like a god.
[SPEAKER_09]: He would have looked great and whether I your likes are not, he's carrying the weight of, so remember it was Iyer was in charge and then it was Bob Chapeck.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Bob Chapeck got ran out because of all of the, the don't say gay bill and sport on all of that.
[SPEAKER_09]: And part of the reason that Chapeck had such a short tenure is because of that whole don't say gay and trying to, you know, try it with the Trump regime.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's why they brought Iger back.
[SPEAKER_09]: And now, same basic concept, and now it's coming back to bite Iger in the ass too.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I think it's much, much bigger.
[SPEAKER_09]: But I mean, there is some little things, for example.
[SPEAKER_09]: The House Republicans killed an attempt by Democrats last night to subpoena the current FCC chair, Brendan Carr, after the Kimmel Suspension.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Democrats in the Senate, led by Chris Murphy, have unveiled the new no political enemies act.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, I get it, that is, you're there, you're a legislator in theory, if the legislator
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and it's it's a package.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a law that is basically a package of mostly defensive new laws.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are currently no Republican co-sponsors, but look, Democrats that I've said this before.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are there are a lot of nice Democrats.
[SPEAKER_09]: who just are conflict diverse, they really don't want to fight with people, regardless of where they're at on the political spectrum.
[SPEAKER_05]: And why are you in Congress, isn't that part of your job, is to debate, argue with others, but I mean, walk away, you know, shake hands.
[SPEAKER_09]: But you're also there to fight for the things that we want you to.
[SPEAKER_09]: You are there to represent us, the people, because we can't all fit into that same room.
[SPEAKER_09]: All 350 million of us can't fit in there.
[SPEAKER_09]: So you're there to represent us.
[SPEAKER_09]: and that means you're there to fight for us.
[SPEAKER_09]: And this is the case whether it is the U.S.
[SPEAKER_09]: Congress, your state legislative body, your city hall, and this is also the case for your mayors and your governors and even the president if there's somebody who actually knows the law which Trump doesn't.
[SPEAKER_09]: They are there to fight for you.
[SPEAKER_09]: if you're a Democrat and this is the same for your party your party is well your political party whether your political party is the democratic or republican party or maybe one of the smaller parties you know like the working families party in New York City.
[SPEAKER_09]: The people who are in your party are there to fight for your representation to fight for the things that you want them to do and if you can't do it I'm sorry step off and that means there are a lot of democrats who are going to be like oh you tell him I'm no what I'm saying
[SPEAKER_09]: Like, I know that there are a lot of Democrats who are really good people, and if you make them mad, you don't want to make them mad.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like you, Jodie, you don't, you guys don't want to make Jodie mad.
[SPEAKER_05]: I turn into the She-Hulk.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Who, by the way, is awesome?
[SPEAKER_09]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, and she canceled her Disney Plus subscription, even though she's, you know, in a Marvel series, which is pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_09]: But the whole thing is, I know there are a lot of Democrats who prefer not to be in conflict, but you're going to have to suck it up right now.
[SPEAKER_09]: We are in a period of time where you don't have the luxury of sitting on the sidelines anymore, and you don't have the luxury of not fighting.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I would rather we weren't in this timeline either.
[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't choose it.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is not the timeline I voted for.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same.
[SPEAKER_09]: So suck it up.
[SPEAKER_09]: Get used to it.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not trying to be mean about it, but I'm saying, you've got to, and there are lots of ways to fight.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are lots, the folks in Chicago, there's some series.
[SPEAKER_09]: We got Anita from San Antonio and Karen from Chicago.
[SPEAKER_09]: Karen has some major updates.
[SPEAKER_05]: She does.
[SPEAKER_09]: She does.
[SPEAKER_09]: we pointed out to start.
[SPEAKER_09]: One of the big things that our friend Rebecca pointed out to us last night when she was here in the bar, that viewpoint discrimination is the key.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is the big key about this fight over the first amendment.
[SPEAKER_09]: There is a May 2024 Supreme Court case, decided May 30th of last year.
[SPEAKER_09]: So not even, I mean, but like 15 months ago, Secretary of Defense, because I'm like
[SPEAKER_09]: It was Anna Rae versus Voulin.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now I remember when this came out and Ellie Mistahl wasn't exactly thrilled with it and he always has great justification through this stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: So totally there, totally understand.
[SPEAKER_09]: However, it was a unanimous ruling, nine didn't, nine to zero.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I think if I remember correctly, I could be remembering wrong.
[SPEAKER_09]: But if I remember correctly, he also said that he saw the this side of it too.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he was right to say that because
[SPEAKER_09]: So the ruling in NRA versus, versus Boolean, nine to zero was a unanimous ruling that New York state officials could not coerce private corporations to blacklist the NRA because of its political views.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just as Sonoma York had an opinion, she wrote separately.
[SPEAKER_09]: quote at the heart of the first amendment's free speech clause is the recognition that viewpoint discrimination is uniquely harmful to a free and democratic society.
[SPEAKER_09]: The take away is that the first amendment prohibits government officials from wielding their power selectively to punish or suppress speech and quote.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's exactly what we're talking about with respect to Jimmy Kimmo and ABC and actually kind of Stephen Colbert as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: And especially because of Brendan Carr and his threats.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Colbert and Fallen and Seth Meyers and John Stewart were great last night.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: And David Letterman actually.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he was amazing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: He was very hot about all of the third.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are a lot of really good people.
[SPEAKER_09]: I saw D on Heugle.
[SPEAKER_09]: I can't remember where it was.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think I think it was actually, um, um, it must have been a replay of Ari Nelberg when we were getting ready last night.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, and I saw a clip from him.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he, I love D on he's he's great.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a man.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's a man.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, but long and short guys, um,
[SPEAKER_09]: The Trump Maga folks, well, even some of the Maga folks are on our side of free speech, but they are at Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz.
[SPEAKER_09]: Are you?
[SPEAKER_09]: Wow, yeah, I'm, I'm, well, let's talk more about this.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is a big, huge thing and it's extremely important because it goes to what Jody and I do here and what you guys do where you are sitting.
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[SPEAKER_09]: All right, back to the big topic of the day, which is, of course, the war over free speech.
[SPEAKER_09]: We were talking here during the break.
[SPEAKER_09]: You honestly think that Trump has finally crossed a line, even with some of the megaphoto?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think.
[SPEAKER_09]: if it's not the full line he's inching closer and closer to crossing something I mean he literally said you can't talk bad about me or I'm gonna pull your license I mean right which is that's that is explicitly not literally just we were talking about it in fact there's another good piece that is in the news on tap today that written by lawyer Mark Joseph Stern another good lawyer we should get him in here as well
[SPEAKER_09]: But the right many of them are trying to use a 2024 case, Murphy versus Missouri to say, yeah, basically, you know, we can we can can screw you, but you can't screw us.
[SPEAKER_09]: And there are people who know there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Ted Freak and Cruz, Ted Cruz in his podcast today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, Ted Cruz who's a podcaster who, you know, in his free time is a senator.
[SPEAKER_05]: it's seriously people.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know anyway, but he did he what he said was that what Brendan Carr the FCC chair did is quote dangerous as hell and right out of good fellas like the movie there much mafia.
[SPEAKER_09]: The other thing that that Cruz said is if the government gets here's an exact quote from him if the government gets in the business of saying we don't like what you the media have said we're going to ban you from the airwaves if you don't say what we
[SPEAKER_05]: You think?
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh my god, I can't believe I'm saying this.
[SPEAKER_09]: But Ted Cruz was right.
[SPEAKER_09]: He is a shock.
[SPEAKER_09]: So was Ben Shapiro for that matter.
[SPEAKER_09]: Also shocked me about that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Shapiro made the same point in his podcast today.
[SPEAKER_09]: He said, what happens when the shoe is on the other foot?
[SPEAKER_09]: And that I think that's really what a lot of those folks on the writer are afraid of because they know full well.
[SPEAKER_09]: What's, well, Eric's wall on hearing yesterday.
[SPEAKER_09]: He had this to say, and I think he says it best.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make it clear, there's going to be a Democratic majority in just over a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to the FCC chairperson, and anyone involved in these dirty deals, get a lawyer and save your records, because you're going to be in this room, and you're going to be answering questions about the deals that you struck, and who benefited, and what the cost was to the American people because that happened.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's not joking.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, he's not.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are a lot of Democrats now while there have been some that have been wishy washi.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are a lot of Democrats now who the things that especially this attack on free speech that Trump is doing, Jody, this may have crossed a lot of lines.
[SPEAKER_09]: This may have crossed the line to activate a lot of Democrats and it may have crossed the line to make a lot of the righties.
[SPEAKER_09]: Finally, realize, oh crap, we've gone way too far.
[SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, for that matter, this is not an unusual cycle.
[SPEAKER_09]: That happens on a regular basis with the rightees.
[SPEAKER_09]: They get some power, they get too much power, they weigh over reach, and then they get their hands lapped with their arms lapped with their face punched, metaphorically speaking.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then they, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, who went too far, and now we're gonna get our ass beaten, and oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
[SPEAKER_09]: And I think there are enough of them that are really, but I also think that that you've got that, you've got some odd people out there, the, the bro podcasters, your Joe Robbie, you were talking about Joe Rogan earlier that he was, he's not in favor of this whole thing that Trump's doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why would he be?
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I don't think he would be, but I'm just saying it's it's it's their stuff that they haven't been in favor of that they haven't really talked up that Trump has done that they haven't been in favor, but, you know, to hear him and some of the other broad podcasters being like, dude.
[SPEAKER_09]: Uh-uh.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not cool.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, in the fact that they're they're they're stepping out they're saying it.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is for a lot of them, I think.
[SPEAKER_09]: The bro podcasters that trust me doing a lot of stuff that they said, you know, we we've talked about this before had they said, you know, I didn't vote for this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah, you did.
[SPEAKER_05]: We warned you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: You were warned.
[SPEAKER_05]: We tried to tell you.
[SPEAKER_09]: We can't sing the rest because it's a podcast.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't have the PG version of.
[SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, the the I mean the bro podcasters are.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't necessarily know some of them I think obviously were maga but but more of them I think uh... were they have their own kind of mix of left and right and their country their contrarians like billmar
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Where they don't they don't necessarily easily get slotted into the standard left versus right binary.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't think they believe in whatever's coming out of their mouth one way or the other half the time.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, but they do believe in this.
[SPEAKER_09]: They do believe in free speech.
[SPEAKER_09]: They believe in free speech because they're terrified of.
[SPEAKER_09]: We were talking about this you and I.
[SPEAKER_09]: Part of the reason that I work in left-leaning media and have for more than half my career is that I, I discover things about myself over the years and I hope everybody here discovers, you know, I hope everybody looks at themselves hard and, you know, fine's good things about themselves, but it's not that I talk too much or not enough sometimes, it's, I, I, yes, sometimes some people, oh, you're a big wealth, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: I just know that when I see injustice is out there, I have found, there's a time in my life when I tried not to say anything.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I found that I couldn't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, and I found that I couldn't to my own detriment.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was not great for me to sit there and watch other people go through crap and just not do anything and not say anything.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I couldn't not say anything.
[SPEAKER_09]: It meant I had to say things and I had to do things.
[SPEAKER_09]: which leads me where I am because you've got to say something and you've got to do something at least I do.
[SPEAKER_09]: And so I understand that that much I at least share with some of those folks who were on the right, like Ben Shapiro, like Ted Cruz who realized that in their own way, they have their own big mouths and they know that they couldn't shut up about the things that
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, if they if they want to spew their their hatred or whatever out there, that's that's part of the price of free speech.
[SPEAKER_09]: I still think there are things that we need to do as far as media to properly categorize.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't necessarily know that that limit would be the correct word, although by proper categorizing, you would somewhat limit.
[SPEAKER_09]: But.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we limit with movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, you've got G rated PG rated PG 13 R and NC 17.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that technically is limiting and regulating what you can put on screen or say on screen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those two things.
[SPEAKER_05]: DFCC has rules on what you can or cannot say over broadcast media.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's like, why isn't the FCC going after Brian Kilmita said, because they can't, it's cable.
[SPEAKER_05]: True.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have the, they don't have the, they don't have the regulatory power over cable or streaming at this point.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've not given it to them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, I agree that the social media platforms are begging to be regulated.
[SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are begging for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and until they self regulate, you know.
[SPEAKER_09]: And there's different different levels of regulation, too.
[SPEAKER_09]: There was one of the things that we had in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_09]: The Democratic, the only current Democratic FCC commissioner noted in, she's noted in a couple of different media appearances over the last 72 hours or so.
[SPEAKER_09]: Anna Gomez is her name.
[SPEAKER_09]: And she says the FCC does not have the authority to retaliate against broadcasters.
[SPEAKER_09]: The way that Brendan Carr is trying to do, it does not.
[SPEAKER_09]: They have the ability to basically say, are you doing the things according to the law that will allow you to have a license?
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, when we have the fairness doctrine,
[SPEAKER_09]: there was the ability to some degree, to limit that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Only so much as to say, if you were spewing political speech of one particular kind and not, and disallowing, political speech of another kind, then you could get your ass in it in a... And that's gone, and Brendan Carr keeps quoting that.
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to have equal time, not nearer.
[SPEAKER_09]: not anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: I remember I remember realizing that I think it was in 2008 when Barack Obama was running and he had that half an hour.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Doc you that was on and then there was no John McCain counterpoint and I'm like right and the right was screaming about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well I was like I thought there was supposed to be legally and then I remembered that that
[SPEAKER_09]: flew out the window thanks to Ronald Reagan it's gone for and for a long time broadcast stations still do and in many ways a lot of local broadcasts still do this as well where they at least offer it it that does not mean that that the candidates take it up but at least the offer has to be made or should be made can't say has to be made doesn't have to be made anymore it just should be and I agree with that and so when when I saw the Barack Obama thing which I you know I voted for him he was my president but I was I was shocked I'm like how did he get a half an hour of
[SPEAKER_05]: major airtime that he bought.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he bought that time, which is legal as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the major networks did not have to air it.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was their choice.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I think if I remember right, maybe I'm wrong, somebody could get on our socials and mention this.
[SPEAKER_09]: But I believe they did offer to McCain and they didn't take it out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or they didn't have the money to do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, because it was a bot thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a bot.
[SPEAKER_05]: 30 minute ad, which ain't cheap, but it was just like, because I thought I thought he was supposed to be allowed that, and then I remembered, no, not since Reagan.
[SPEAKER_09]: Brennan cars doing a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: In fact, here's something that a lot of the folks have not really paid attention to as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: I believe it's either Greg Sargent or Ross Barkin.
[SPEAKER_09]: We have pieces from them in the news on Tap today as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: They talk about basically Trump is way out over his skis on his speech issue.
[SPEAKER_09]: But one of the things that Brennan cars even more out in his skis.
[SPEAKER_09]: So do you know the ownership cap rule?
[SPEAKER_05]: This particular one joke shouldn't be like 6% or something in a market something like that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Currently no corporation no one corporation is supposed to own TV media that can reach more than 39% of America.
[SPEAKER_09]: And if next star is allowed to buy tegna, what one of the reasons that they're kissing Brendan cars asks is because Brendan car would have to agree to override that rule and allow them to have God access into I think 80% of America, but I think it's there total.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's like sinclair broadcasting.
[SPEAKER_05]: They all right I mean luckily they did not buy KTLA here.
[SPEAKER_05]: They wanted to but they did not
[SPEAKER_09]: But Carl wants that we can ownership rules for radio, for TV, for for all all kinds of stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: He wants to end and what what we really need to do.
[SPEAKER_09]: What Democrats need to do when Democrats get back is push for real hardcore anti trust enforcement.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, and probably some new laws and not just for media across the board of anti trust stuff, but especially when it comes to media.
[SPEAKER_09]: because so many of these local stations are not owned by local owners.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_09]: Have you heard of the the the group concept when it comes to local TV?
[SPEAKER_09]: Jody the the clusters it came came from radio.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I remember when people were doing the Sinclair things and everybody had to read the same stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: I remember that.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's that's one thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's a corporate thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, this is this is cluster and actually newspapers do it now, too, which is disgusting because they're so few newspaper owners also something else that we need to
[SPEAKER_05]: Airlines.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, there's so much across the board.
[SPEAKER_09]: We definitely need to bring back big nasty antitrust enforcement hardcore and break up a lot of these things.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you guys know, notice one of the problems that that a lot of smaller media has is that there's not as much that not as many ads out there.
[SPEAKER_09]: You hear ads, but you hear ads from like the drug companies, or political stuff, and you're going, didn't we used to have ads for like Coke and Pepsi and Dr. Pepper
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, okay, except for because of a lot of these companies buying all these things up, so you go to the grocery store and there is this illusion of choice where you have a bajillion choices, except for if you actually have the grocery store color coded by who owns what you don't see about like five or six different kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, like Nestle owns a bunch of stuff, Coca-Cola, which Sony owns Coca-Cola or Coca-Cola on Sony, I forget why you don't mix.
[SPEAKER_09]: You put down the dry goods aisle, and you would see like four or five colors.
[SPEAKER_09]: You go into the meat and seafood aisle.
[SPEAKER_09]: You see like, you know, four or five colors, people go, oh my God, there, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's one of the things that we have to date.
[SPEAKER_09]: They don't advertise because they don't have to because they own everything as George Carlin used to say.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that's something that Democrats are going to have to do as going in, especially with the media.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're going to have to punch, but the cluster thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: So the cluster thing works like this.
[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of these, a lot of these television stations now, especially in some of your more rural areas, they will have a hub.
[SPEAKER_09]: uh... for example i believe uh... the uh... the fox owned stations i think by sent clear have a hub in the quads cities and i will find a member right and that covers so they have i think one or two people that are live maybe at local stations and places like so city right bigger and right
[SPEAKER_09]: But they only have one or two.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm talking, that's their whole onsite staff.
[SPEAKER_09]: And the rest of the staff is in the Quad Cities.
[SPEAKER_09]: And they put all the stuff together, and then they basically will do a version of the newscast, that part of the newscast, and then they insert Su City.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then they do the next one, and they do Su Falls.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then they do the next one, and they do the same thing over and over and over, like you were saying, except they just insert the local city here.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not really a real TV station in your town anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because it's not local.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that's the biggest thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, that's, that's what these big corporations are doing.
[SPEAKER_09]: And with next star, that's really what they wanted to do.
[SPEAKER_09]: So they can own all these stations and then do this group cluster.
[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, George Soros, let's buy up a bunch of stations.
[SPEAKER_09]: or let's have people locally on the side.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how it should be.
[SPEAKER_09]: Amen to that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, it is Friday.
[SPEAKER_09]: We happen to have Karen and Anita from True New Politics coming in.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we're gonna do the drink of the day, coming up.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's do that next.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's after all.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's talk like a pirate day.
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[SPEAKER_09]: All right, Joey, we've been joking about it on and off all evening so far.
[SPEAKER_09]: And today is, in fact, international talk like a pirate day.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure it is.
[SPEAKER_09]: You texted me was it last night this morning something about that saying, you know, you're gonna love the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was yesterday.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, yeah, I do, I admit it.
[SPEAKER_09]: I like to talk like a pirate day.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is a fun fake holiday.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you're listening in the UK or Canada or Australia or wherever else you guys are listening, yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is one of those many weird things that the United States does.
[SPEAKER_09]: We have all these weird fake holidays because I actually had to wear a patch.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I patch?
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: In 2001.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_09]: You've told me before it's your hurt your eye.
[SPEAKER_09]: You had to actually, you had to actually wear a patch.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not like wearing a patch for talk like a pirate.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it was a real one.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it was, I was at this party.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was sitting down playing with this dog.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the dog, I was throwing a ball and the dog was very sweet.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was very sweet talking.
[SPEAKER_05]: But then he kind of reached form my face.
[SPEAKER_05]: and scratched my eye, and we were supposed to go to another gathering, and I just wouldn't stop tearing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It just wouldn't, and so he scratched my eye, and obviously I'm okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: But when I went to the, I think we went to the hospital that night, because it was bad.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you told me, you told me that Lonnie took you to hospital.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so they gave me antibiotics, but I had to wear a patch for like a week.
[SPEAKER_09]: was that week during September?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it was in November.
[SPEAKER_05]: Unfortunately, it would have been much better if it's that they've now.
[SPEAKER_09]: If it had been today, September 19th.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now originally, when the guys came up with this, we have the whole story, the backstory on international talk like a pirate day.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jody put this all together here at the, on the, in the drink of the day of the politics bar.com.
[SPEAKER_09]: uh... the the inventors of the day john bower and mark summers i guess they were playing racket now in their hometown of albany organ and one of them got hurt and went and then they decided you know we could do a whole day of this and then they just somehow got out
[SPEAKER_09]: It got out because in 2002, this is ex-wife's birthday, by the way.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, they decided to move it to September 19th because the day that they actually originally had that idea was June 6th and that's D-Day.
[SPEAKER_09]: So they decided that would be bad.
[SPEAKER_09]: So they moved it to the birthday of one of their exes.
[SPEAKER_09]: And they just kind of celebrated a little bit.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then in 2002, John Bauer, by this point, Nick named Old Shumbucker,
[SPEAKER_09]: old jump bugger a great pirate name um uh they got the address of um humorist and colonist Dave Barry.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you were a Dave Barry fan at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't read him.
[SPEAKER_09]: Dave Barry, I think is is one of the funniest American writer.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's great and he's very funny.
[SPEAKER_09]: He had a column in the Miami Harold for kind of over 20 years.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's written a lot of books, one of Pulitzer basically bowering summers, got a hold of him, presented him with the idea.
[SPEAKER_09]: And he was like, sirs, and you guys would just want me to run with this, and they're like, yeah, would you?
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: So he did and all of a sudden lots of people all over the US and then later the world are going, yeah, let's celebrate talk like a pirate day.
[SPEAKER_05]: I remember the first time I saw that was on Facebook like 10 something years ago.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was still doing music radio and I was like, oh, well, that's fun.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: So that had to have been, is probably early 2000s.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if I had a parrot, my cats would kill it, so there's that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you don't have to have a parrot, but you can't have a parrot as part of your nicknames, so according to the adventures of talk like a pirate day, there are some things you need to do, and first thing is you need an appropriate pirate nickname.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, in order to do this, you can draw inspiration from their names like Old Chumbucket or Captain Slappy.
[SPEAKER_09]: or you can create your own.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, here's the steps to create your own pirate nickname.
[SPEAKER_09]: First, you need to choose a color or a melody suffered on pirate ships like scurvy or malaria or dysentery.
[SPEAKER_09]: In fact, if your name is Terry, dysentery would probably work really well for you.
[SPEAKER_09]: The next step is choose an animal, preferably an aquatic animal or one on a ship, totally legit.
[SPEAKER_09]: The third step is name a 17th or 18th century trade profession, for example, Cooper or Miller or Silversmith, and a common object like a trencher or a charger or a nipper, and then you string the three of them together and you have your pirate name.
[SPEAKER_09]: So, Jodi, what would your pirate nickname be?
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm going to go with black whale nippers.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: I like that one.
[SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[SPEAKER_09]: For me, this one is, you know, fairly obvious for those of you who know my radio history.
[SPEAKER_09]: This would be Sean the scurvy dog Silver Smith of course, because my radio name when I first started radio was Sean Silver Smith.
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
[SPEAKER_09]: The fact that I put it there, I mean, you guys can borrow it.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can use it as part of your name, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: But now that you have your pirate nickname, you gotta change your speech.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can't just say, yo ho ho, because that's all the pirates say.
[SPEAKER_09]: They do things like, I, I, Captain, and I, I, or they speak like Johnny Depp and, you know, part of the, I've heard various rumors that he may or may not be discussing things of getting back being friendly with Disney again.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we'll know soon enough.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I mean, he took, he basically is doing Keith Richards, which is why Keith Richards played his dad in one of the movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: I freaking love that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I thought it was perfect casting.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: So all of this is to say, the drink of the day is to celebrate international talk like a pirate day.
[SPEAKER_09]: And today's drink of the day is Jodie.
[SPEAKER_09]: A bumbo.
[SPEAKER_09]: We.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is a bumbo?
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, you're going to need your shaker.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, and you're going to need the ice for the shaker and ice for the drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: I need a Collins or high ball glass.
[SPEAKER_05]: I need two ounces of rum because we are pirates.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you need a dark raw.
[SPEAKER_05]: We need dark rum, not the light rum like we had yesterday.
[SPEAKER_05]: I need two ounces of water, a half ounce of fresh lime juice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Tones is a simple syrup or two teaspoons of sugar depending on what you got.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pinch of grated nutmeg and a pinch of ground cinnamon.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yay, I like those good spices, good spices.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are, they're great.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what you do is you add all the ingredients to your cocktail shaker, feel free to add modest amounts of grenadine or other juice, native wherever your spoon or his landed.
[SPEAKER_09]: To whatever your spoon or his landed.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you add ice to the shaker and shake it until it's cold and then you strain it into the ice-filled highball or Collins class.
[SPEAKER_09]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_09]: Drink up, ladies.
[SPEAKER_09]: Be nice to your parents and your parents.
[SPEAKER_09]: And your pirates.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_09]: All right, Jody, there is more news on tap today in the war over health.
[SPEAKER_09]: The RFK Junior Control Vaccine Advisory Committee did what the previous CDC director said he was going to do.
[SPEAKER_09]: And screwed up the Vaccine Schedule for measles, months for Bella and chicken box.
[SPEAKER_09]: So.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look, I think that should be between a doctor and
[SPEAKER_09]: the parents of these children like if the kid hey look this kid might not be able to handle all these vaccines all at once so let's stagger them right here's the first decision democratic lead states are banding together there is now a west coast coalition and a northeast coalition
[SPEAKER_09]: of states.
[SPEAKER_09]: In fact, Maryland just joined the Northeast Regional Public Health Coalition.
[SPEAKER_09]: We've got the stories on that in the news on tap, but the idea is it really matters where you live.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's the thing is that it should be better where you live here in the United States.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's not the way that we do things in the U.S., but it is right now because of the Trump regime.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean Bella said that she's she's going on vacation next week and she was going to go to Florida and she's worried about going there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think she's going to go into December or something, but she's worried about going there because people weren't getting vaccinated and she doesn't want to get sick.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, and it's understandable and look there there are there are lots of people because of the free speech thing because the vaccine thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: Florida is from a couple of people that I still know there is hurting tourist wise.
[SPEAKER_09]: Admittedly, Vegas is hurting tourist-wise, too.
[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of places in the U.S.
[SPEAKER_09]: that depend on tourism or hurting, because of all the stuff that Donald Trump has done.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: But Florida is hurting because Florida depends so heavily on tourism.
[SPEAKER_09]: They are, in fact, hurting a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_09]: And this anti-vax crap that their surgeon general was doing, the anti-vax crap that RFK Junior is doing, and that their governor is going along with.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's hurting Florida.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are, there are people, a lot of Germans like to go take vacations in Florida, not now, not currently, a lot of Canadians too and not anymore, not right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Canadians aren't even not coming down here.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we love you Canadians, but we do.
[SPEAKER_09]: For those of us who are vaccinated and come up there, you know,
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll let you know.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll make sure that we're not going to do anything nasty for you guys, because you guys are still good neighbors.
[SPEAKER_09]: Even though our current landlord boss, whatever you want to call it, idiot in charge, is well, and more on.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's the nicest thing you can say about him.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, because we're on broadcaster waves.
[SPEAKER_09]: In the war over immigration, we're going to have to talk to Karen from Chicago on this.
[SPEAKER_09]: There were some protesters clashing with ice agents outside that suburban Chicago facility today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Emigration arrests have spiked, but activists have also spiked up their tactics.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they're at their apparently every Friday.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's just it's it's stupid.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm glad the activists are really standing.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're gonna.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're gonna have to start to care and we're Let's see about maybe getting a cat because they live back in here as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: I saw a couple of videos that she had posted on her social media today, a couple of different platforms of these ice jack asses Rating her and throwing her
[SPEAKER_05]: And here's the thing, she's not a big person.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's a tiny little thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've literally, I told you this before.
[SPEAKER_09]: I literally could pick her up and put her on my shoulder.
[SPEAKER_09]: Ben Collins, her significant other, we love Ben.
[SPEAKER_09]: He is the editor-in-chief of the onion and he's fantastic guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: And either he or I, in fact, if you had he and I stand in together, Kat could literally like sit on both of our shoulders and if we were standing literally shoulder to shoulder
[SPEAKER_09]: She's tiny and yet she was putting her body in the way of the ice monsters fit for her There and I can't remember who it was, but there was a There was a media organization that that took a an attributed quote from a Democratic lawmaker earlier this year
[SPEAKER_09]: when a lot of democratic voters, Democrats, independence and non-Trump Republicans, all of us who are on the larger left, if you will, have been saying we want Democrats to fight more.
[SPEAKER_09]: And this particular unidentified Democrat said to this journalist, they say, what do they want us to do?
[SPEAKER_09]: Physically put our bodies in the way?
[SPEAKER_05]: Why not?
[SPEAKER_09]: exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: They did it in New York, too, people are getting arrested in New York.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we have another New York city and state Democratic lawmakers, including Brad Lander, were arrested for blocking ice access to the federal building.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you want to know, elect Democrats, what Democratic voters want, that's what we want.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, if necessary, we want you to put your body in the way of harm for us.
[SPEAKER_09]: We elected you to represent us.
[SPEAKER_09]: If we could all get out there and stop some of these ice monsters, we would.
[SPEAKER_09]: And there are some great activists in places all over the country who are doing that.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we owe a great debt of thanks to them.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we should help them wear a however and wherever we can.
[SPEAKER_09]: But the fact of the matter is, not all of us can.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you're an elected Democrat you want to know what we expect that is one of the things that we expect So big kudos to Kat she's yeah good for her she's she's once again campaigning in a unique way We're really glad about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely
[SPEAKER_09]: We are going to talk to somebody like like we mentioned here Karen from Chicago is coming in.
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[SPEAKER_09]: We did mention a few entertainment fun things.
[SPEAKER_09]: There is some good news in the media section of in the media entertainment and more section of the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_09]: A federal judge tossed Trump's $15 billion lawsuit hits the New York Times saying it was quote unmistakably and inexcusably violated basic federal rules because of course.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was an 87-page lawsuit.
[SPEAKER_09]: Jack asked in, he only had two counts that he wanted to sue them on.
[SPEAKER_09]: He didn't get to his first count until page 80.
[SPEAKER_09]: Second count was on page 83.
[SPEAKER_09]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a bunch of grievance up until then.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_05]: For 79 pages were you suck, you suck, you suck, you suck.
[SPEAKER_09]: The media sucks, everybody sucks.
[SPEAKER_09]: Newer time sucks.
[SPEAKER_09]: I hate everything, everybody sucks.
[SPEAKER_09]: And basically the judge was like, um, here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to give you 28 days if you can actually find something that's actually viable and file a legitimate suit, I'll consider it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Otherwise, consider this wiped out because you're an idiot.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they want to fire the with the Southern District of New York that attorney.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's that's a whole other thing in there I may it may or may not have changed since we got into the bar today, but Trump has been poised to fire the U.S.
[SPEAKER_09]: attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia after that guy was unable to find any incriminating evidence of mortgage fraud.
[SPEAKER_09]: and Trump wants to fire him because he couldn't fire any evidence of mortgage fraud from New York Attorney General Latician exchange, which I, I'm sorry, it's it, it's like hitting a speed bomb.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sitting going, I'm stuttering just because I'm like, let me get this straight.
[SPEAKER_09]: Trump tasks a U.S.
[SPEAKER_09]: attorney to find something criminal and because the guy
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, Trump wants to fire him because he didn't manufacture something which is against the law right Jesus
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I look, look, this timeline can change because of your vote, especially if you are close to me here in the Virginia area of the bar in the election land section today at the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_09]: I am so geeked up about this because of the fact that the elections have started basically here in Virginia and the most recent poll has Spanberger up by 12 has all the other Democrats up by around five.
[SPEAKER_09]: uh... if you are in the Virginia bar you can you can go early vote uh... at your your city hall usually whatever your your main voting places a lot of them have it open on Saturdays here uh... they won't have it open on Sundays until like two weeks beforehand but and then usually they'll have it open during business hours Monday through friday so and this is the general correct
[SPEAKER_09]: This is the general election.
[SPEAKER_09]: Abs, a damn loop.
[SPEAKER_09]: So get your asses out there and vote.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I would hope that you would vote for the Democratic candidates because it is a great slate of Democratic candidates across the Commonwealth of Virginia.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I believe New Jersey, I think they're early voting opens very soon as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think Len Kirchner went to some get out the vote thing today in Virginia.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, believe I heard he was going to do that today too, which yeah, we got to get Glen back in the yard.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we have a whole list of people who we are, who is coming in next week, I believe is it's Sherry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sherry, Jacobus.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we at least, though, she's coming in and we will see if we can get some other people in here too, and of course, we'll have a regular as well, it's we try to bring you guys a broad variety of folks because, you know, that's where we do.
[SPEAKER_09]: We also bring you a broad variety of news, which is pretty
[SPEAKER_09]: really groovy.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's some good entertainment news.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um tomorrow night, Willie Nelson, Neil Young, John Millencom, Bob Dylan, Dave Matthews, Margot Price, and some other great artists are headlining the 40th Farm Aid concert in AM950 Country in Minneapolis.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we haven't been doing them every year, correct?
[SPEAKER_09]: I think they've done them almost every year since 85.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I think, obviously, the COVID year they didn't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think they're made the one other, but I believe, I believe, yeah, this is the 40th mean, yeah, because the first one was at 85.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that was under Reagan.
[SPEAKER_09]: we have a lot of issues with the the farm and look the farm crisis is happening right now it's gotten worse yep but the farm crisis is happening because of the big ugly bill that republicans are trying to call what the the something tax credit or whatever no it's the big ugly bill and don't let them call anything else because that's literally it's it's technically the big beautiful bill that is legally the name of the bill and if they have a problem with it you tell them hey man you could have changed the name but you didn't so suck it so
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's, uh, when Democrats get back in, that's one of the things we're going to have to fix, but I really wish the overall, uh, we talked about the antitrust of the Democrats need to fix.
[SPEAKER_09]: One of the other things we need to fix is the farm financing systems because just like the school financing systems, the farm financing systems are an absolute clutch.
[SPEAKER_09]: New to
[SPEAKER_09]: It's like a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-Aid on top of a Band-A
[SPEAKER_09]: No, time to fix it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Fix it proper.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, there's some NBA news, WMBA news that was a little, um, kind of surprising actually Indiana fever without Caitlin Clark and a couple of their other stars pulled off a huge upset beating the Atlanta dream in game three.
[SPEAKER_09]: So the fever is advancing in the WMBA playoffs, which is for them.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you know, look, further proof, Caitlyn Clark is not the only woman who can play basketball.
[SPEAKER_09]: There are a lot of good.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's very, very good, but you've got to have a team in order to, in case somebody gets injured, you've got to have a team.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, by the way, you know that you don't spell team with an eye.
[SPEAKER_05]: True.
[SPEAKER_09]: But if you look really hard, you know where you can find the eye in team?
[SPEAKER_05]: Where?
[SPEAKER_09]: In the A hole.
[SPEAKER_09]: Seriously, if you draw block letters, T-E-A-M, and you draw a block A, there's a little circle in the middle that's the dot, and then the line underneath the crossover bar in the A. So it looks like a little I. So indeed, you find the I in team in the A-hole.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just going to leave it there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Something for you, Jody, legendary pitcher Clayton Kershaw, the L.A.
[SPEAKER_09]: Dodgers is retired in 18 years and more than 3,000 strikeouts, which you guys got a tonning now.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I mean, you know, I sure Kershaw can retire.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, that's kind of like the whole, you know, if there was, if there was a sequel to Jesus Christ, or, you know, sequel to Abraham, be like, Oh, Jesus, too, the sequel.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'll take a look.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: Curshack and retire now that Otonny's there.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you guys with your Dodgers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jodie smiles and does the, I'm firing my teens just better.
[SPEAKER_09]: Good to hear is the NFL is now admitting that the Philadelphia Eagles should have been penalized for a fall start on a touch push.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so basically if they hadn't done that chances are that the chiefs might have won.
[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, I'm sorry, but I do think the touch push should be.
[SPEAKER_09]: rolled illegal but the biggest reason should be ruled illegal is because it makes it extremely hard for the uh... rafts and the officials to see things like this sure they can go back and look on the tape later but this is what a week later and it's games over game over
[SPEAKER_09]: game overman in the quarterback is toast and speaking of toast no allials has matched match you say bolts record and toasted pretty much everybody else in the field with his fourth consecutive 200 meter world championship for him man.
[SPEAKER_09]: he's extremely fast and hopefully the next Olympics he will not have COVID like he didn't last one so he'll be able to get you know do some really serious damage in favor of of the US plus he'll be there in LA because that's where the that's what the next Olympics will be cross fingers
[SPEAKER_09]: We got a long way to go before we get there, folks.
[SPEAKER_09]: We have a lot of time between now and then.
[SPEAKER_09]: So just remember folks, you've got to do the work to get us between now and then.
[SPEAKER_09]: And a lot of that is obviously with elections.
[SPEAKER_09]: And a lot of that is obviously with making sure that your legislators do the things they're supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now, we wanted the Democrats to refuse the Republicans' garbage in the shutdown.
[SPEAKER_09]: And the Democrats did that today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Two bills were pushed through or were being pushed into the Senate today.
[SPEAKER_09]: One was the house version of the CR, which is basically, let's do a CR.
[SPEAKER_09]: But we're not going to block or prevent decisions.
[SPEAKER_09]: So if Republicans want to change the rules after you pass it, we can do that.
[SPEAKER_09]: and thankfully the democrats said pound sand right and then the democrats had done what we had discussed them doing uh... i believe they've been over the american prospect discuss that and we had that in one of the news on taps earlier this week had said look what they should do is a no-king's budget
[SPEAKER_09]: And it looks like the Democrats in the Senate put forward a partial no kings budget that said look you can't do any recisions you have to stick to the numbers at least during the term of this CR and of course that also didn't get 60 votes because Republicans were like no we want to change the rules after the game is over do you think that the Republicans will get rid of the filibuster now so that we know that it's their fault
[SPEAKER_09]: No, they they they got rid of the filibuster on one small on another small thing this week, but overall Republicans don't want to get rid of the filibuster completely for the same reason that Democrats don't want to because eventually eventually when you're in the minority.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're screwed.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think they need to absolutely reform the filibuster.
[SPEAKER_09]: They need it to be a Mr. Smith goes to Washington's style filibuster.
[SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't just get to put your name on a piece of paper and say, I'm filibustering.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to stand up or you do the Al Franken one where you need 41 people.
[SPEAKER_05]: right in the chamber at all times to hold the vote.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then as soon as it's down to 40 boom, you're dead.
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, the whole thing is either one.
[SPEAKER_09]: You have to make filibusters onerous.
[SPEAKER_09]: You have to make it and you have to make it so that if somebody decides they want to outwit and outlast the opposition, they can.
[SPEAKER_09]: But it has to be a test of wills.
[SPEAKER_09]: That is what the filibuster is supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: and most of the time Democrats usually going to win that because we're fighting for something not fighting against.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then people can see the sausage being made and go, why is this happening?
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you see it.
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't just have a little blue just like when Cory Booker did his filibuster earlier this year.
[SPEAKER_05]: He Sanders did it, you know, and Ted Cruz did the dumb one, but still it was still fun to learn and people saw it, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: That's the idea folks.
[SPEAKER_09]: Do it the right way.
[SPEAKER_09]: So
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, it is a Friday night.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're going to do things the right way by inviting in Karen and Anita of True Blue Politics.
[SPEAKER_09]: We!
[SPEAKER_09]: They're going to update us on what's going on in Chicago and in Texas.
[SPEAKER_09]: Get your trigger fresh.
[SPEAKER_09]: We got them coming in next.
[SPEAKER_09]: To close down the bar on a Friday night, two more segments with Karen and Anita here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: We do!
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: Friday nights here at the politics bar on your international talk like a pirate day our We have caring and I need a couple of art favorites just as pirates.
[SPEAKER_09]: I guess you want to call it Hey, I love you guys.
[SPEAKER_09]: We are so glad you guys are here in the bar joining us.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is knife nice and safe here in the bar There is not any tear gas being used for this evening, which which is very good because
[SPEAKER_09]: Holy crap.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's some going on there in Chicago right there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Karen, you want to give us an update as to what's going on Or what what you dealt with we we saw a few postings earlier today from catabacazella them throwing her in that and I didn't see any of your posts on the socials, but
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, okay, so today I have been at the facility every day this week.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is my facility in Suburban, Chicago.
[SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, I've been broad view Illinois and it is in a building and it actually has been a nice facility since 2022.
[SPEAKER_06]: But since
[SPEAKER_06]: probably three weeks ago, I guess.
[SPEAKER_06]: There was one of the first protests similar to what happened today and last Friday when I was out of town.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those were generally peaceful.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're generally peaceful.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they are getting in the way and being physically moved last week.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it got a little more heated.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably a little bit.
[SPEAKER_06]: But you know, they did hit them with some tear gas last week and rubber bullets.
[SPEAKER_09]: She, they were using rubber bullets and they had tear gas for the last week.
[SPEAKER_06]: They did it last week too.
[SPEAKER_06]: But after the first protest, I went over there on the following day.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they had already boarded the windows up.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: And so we knew about the boarding the windows.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's when they boarded the windows and, you know, I, in my, witnessing what's going, the comings and goings.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have seen numerous people.
[SPEAKER_06]: brought into the facility, including an 11 or 12-year-old boy.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have yesterday was a very emotional day and quite frankly I was telling Anita, I am kind of emotionally, emotionally spent because
[SPEAKER_06]: They did a huge sweep early morning sweep and we're grabbing people out of their work trucks.
[SPEAKER_06]: There were several loved ones looking for family members looking for their loved ones that had been kidnapped.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're getting from it all so we're getting them out of their work trucks.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: When Jared was in the bar here was that last week, Jody was in earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, um, so uh, he got a message at one point while he was here at the bar.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, that, uh, his, his wife, I guess was a school or something.
[SPEAKER_09]: And school, there was some event there or something, meaning, and, and, and, and the ice monsters were, we're going through the school, trying to go after, uh, teachers and parents.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess all this guy dropping off his preschooler.
[SPEAKER_04]: Might as such is very, to have a good job documenting these things.
[SPEAKER_04]: and they were screaming at him and she was screaming the toddler she was a toddler in front of a preschool and he just got was a doctor yeah and they was I wrote that when I believe that was the doctor who's in Seattle right
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I'm not sure where it was, but it was an illegal green car resident have been here I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, respected doctor.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he was not a criminal.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't care about any of that.
[SPEAKER_09]: They don't care about any of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't care about any of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't care about any of that
[SPEAKER_09]: And they don't ask for ID until like a day or two later, right, they're doing something even even with the media folks and a lot of media folks have put out the the the word on this so they're they're doing things with respect to immigration and even it appears potentially some of the health care stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: and or Trump's, you know, the Trump regime official staff, if you think so you get these journalists who are and I firmly believe that they should just abandon the the press room for right now because you're not going to get any facts.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know what's the point.
[SPEAKER_09]: But that they feel they have to, that's what their assignments, so they go when they ask them and they say, oh well, you know, what about this particular immigration thing or what about this?
[SPEAKER_09]: And they say, have you talked to any experts?
[SPEAKER_09]: And the Trump people will say to the journalist,
[SPEAKER_09]: If you tell me who you talk to, I'll tell you what you want to know.
[SPEAKER_09]: What?
[SPEAKER_09]: And then because what they do is so some of the journal where like whatever it's fine I'll tell you because I know these these experts in this particular field fine They didn't think anything of it So they tell the Trump White House this then the Trump White House goes out Find that person online and uses their bot armies and starts trashing the reputations So then they can say we'll see this person to jackass and they don't know anything We know what we're doing, but this person an expert there in idiot
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And most of the people they side are idiots.
[SPEAKER_09]: Of course, I'm a patient.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're talking to journalists go out and we try to verify stuff with people who are experts in their field and what it means is at least for some of the folks here in DC that the experts are starting to completely turn away or they're saying to the journalists you cannot release my information.
[SPEAKER_09]: You are not authorized to release my information in any way shape or form to the top regime.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because that's the Trump regime is using it as a targeting tool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you probably get also Russian bots attacking them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, that's all I have to do is dump dump into the right pool online.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's that the Trump monsters do is they go find the right pool online.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a here's some chum.
[SPEAKER_09]: Go for it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's just scary country we've been right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was listening to Tom Harman earlier and he said, you know, yesterday he goes if feel like we've passed into a
[SPEAKER_06]: whole new world.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what Jimmy Kimmel is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, when Jimmy Kimmel is far.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how I feel.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Suspended.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, definitely.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then although I hear ABC wants him back, they wanted to apologize.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sing Claire.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, Claire.
[SPEAKER_05]: Claire wasn't too hard rather than give money to talk.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_09]: But here's here.
[SPEAKER_09]: So so we mentioned this in the first hour and told you guys when you guys came in that we had some good stuff on this and it is it's in the first section there in the news on tap politics bar dot com thing is is yes There is dissent inside of Disney itself.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, lots and there supposedly has been ongoing Negotiations between Kimmel's people and that because Kimmel says look I don't trust these executives to have my back right right exactly
[SPEAKER_09]: But here's the very cave once and yeah, but they did things in a really, really, really stupid move.
[SPEAKER_09]: I know, Karen Anita, Jody and I talked about this already.
[SPEAKER_09]: Do you guys remember last year, Supreme Court case, end of May, 2024, and array versus followed, does that ring a bell to either of you?
[SPEAKER_04]: It sounds what would happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll see if I can remember.
[SPEAKER_09]: Annabelle Versusvolo was a case where basically the Supreme Court came down and said that it was unanimous ruling.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was 9-0 and they said that New York State officials could not coerce private corporations to blacklist the NRA because of the NRA's political views.
[SPEAKER_09]: right that was coercion and they said what it is is viewpoint discrimination and they're literally there's uh in in one of the pieces in the news on tap that we link to from the ACLU they quoted just a subtle myor's opinion in that 2024 case and our aversus volo and subtle myor said quote at the heart of the first amendment's free speech clause is the recognition that
[SPEAKER_09]: Viewpoint discrimination is uniquely harmful to a free and democratic society.
[SPEAKER_09]: The takeaways at the first amendment prohibits government officials from wielding their power selectively to punish or suppress speech.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I wonder, there's no dissent, not even from the right, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's an NRA case.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wonder if somebody doesn't matter any other country, I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: But these people, I know I agree, it shouldn't matter.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't trust these Supreme Court justices on the right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't trust Clarence Thomas.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't trust forces.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't trust them either, but I trust in the fact that we've heard a lot of these people on the right They're own hair on fire Ted Cruz and his podcast because he's only he's only your senator part time.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're a needy.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not
[SPEAKER_09]: But he and he had been in Ben Shapiro in his podcast both said the same thing, which is this is absolutely unacceptable and the reason they said it was unacceptable is because they both know that at some point the tables are going to turn in fact they're going to be under fire.
[SPEAKER_09]: Eric Swallwell said this yesterday.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I heard him.
[SPEAKER_04]: He played it on our
[SPEAKER_09]: Understandable for those humans and I'll play it for you again here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to make it clear There's going to be a democratic majority in just over a year and to the FCC chairperson and anyone involved in these dirty deals Get a lawyer and save your records because they're gonna be in this room And you're gonna be answering questions about the deals that you struck And who benefited and what the cost was to the American people because that happened
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, we need to come here.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's why they supported Anita is because they know they cannot stop forever.
[SPEAKER_09]: And when the tables are turned, but you damn right, we go and come after them.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they never seem to be bothered by that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, look at what they did when they got married by nobody.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a little bit shocked.
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing for Supreme Court justices and then they went and did it to the lawyer.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I do think that it's it's one of those things where, you know, they have counted on Democrats not kicking back and I think that we're starting to get a new and he's carrying his rights.
[SPEAKER_04]: and putting some fear into them, okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: They have to be afraid of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they have to be more afraid of us than they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, these politicians, then they are afraid of their own base.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have to be afraid of us.
[SPEAKER_09]: And here's the thing that adds to the issue.
[SPEAKER_09]: And we have this as some of the other articles that are in there in that news on tap today as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: The whole thing is, the reason why next star was really trying to kiss up to Brendan Carr,
[SPEAKER_09]: Currently, no corporation is supposed to own TV media that can reach more than 39% of American homes.
[SPEAKER_09]: And next are, if they actually want this whole deal they're trying to do with
[SPEAKER_04]: right.
[SPEAKER_04]: We talked about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: They need they want to control like 80% right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they can do that right now and they want they want the rules that for them.
[SPEAKER_09]: Democrats, one of the first things that we need to do when we come back and there's a lot that we're going to have to do but one of the first serious things we're going to have to do is major anti trust action and legislation.
[SPEAKER_09]: And be like.
[SPEAKER_09]: you have to knock these monster corporations down and especially when it comes to your local news your local TV news local radio news your local newspaper sorry folks that's got to be broken up and it's got to be broken up with a big sledgehammer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can't clear it at that.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I don't know what you're looking at.
[SPEAKER_05]: I look up all sorts of things all the time.
[SPEAKER_09]: She does look, we guys, we know you guys look up all kinds of stuff on your phones as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: Remember if you have not subscribed to the podcast on your phone, just find your podcast player and subscribe anytime at the politics bar, that count.
[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, I am not as concerned really in part because of the fact that it is, you've got, you've not only got the law that is absolutely clear on our side, which is great.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right, I agree with that.
[SPEAKER_09]: But you've got the Republicans who are afraid and you got Democrats standing up.
[SPEAKER_09]: Did you guys see what the on the shutdown stuff what they did today?
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw that they said, no, I mean, they, they, because this, they said, no, that's not good enough.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: What, what, what the, they want that, they want the ACC, I mean, the ACA, ACA, they want, what, what, what Democrats, I suppose, and I suggested this earlier in the week and Joe, do you agree to me on this, I believe?
[SPEAKER_09]: That's what Chuck Schumer I thought was doing, and obviously what it seems like he was doing is knowing that if they floated the temporary extension of the ACA bonuses and benefits, they knew Republicans would say no, we're not going to do that.
[SPEAKER_09]: We not want that.
[SPEAKER_04]: they're going to get that around their neck when they said, yeah, I'm skipping.
[SPEAKER_04]: They also, they found out Republicans just realized the cuts that they did.
[SPEAKER_04]: They thought we're going to be going to affect until after the midterm.
[SPEAKER_04]: So turns out they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to go on before the midterm.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, to some extent, because the cuts that they made aren't going into effect as far as Medicare and Medicaid, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: But the ACA, I don't know, the ACA subsidization.
[SPEAKER_09]: the subsidization that's getting cut off right now people are starting to get those and when hospitals are looking especially because there are a lot of hospital corporations now when hospitals are looking at their budgets hospitals don't just look at a 90 day or a one-year budget right our constantly revising their five-year budget and guess what in their five-year budget that stuff is already coming up in the estimates
[SPEAKER_09]: So that's why it's already starting to hurt some of the rural hospitals because the hospital say I'm sorry, but we won't be able to complete the bit that's that's why there are a couple of hospitals in the Nebraska already have already had already happening, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep
[SPEAKER_04]: But the pets in the ACA are going to make it unforeable to many, many, many people.
[SPEAKER_09]: 70% jump in a lot of these.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're going to get Charles Gabba, the great statistician from ACASineups.net.
[SPEAKER_09]: And to talk about this stuff, the basically Republicans have shot themselves in the foot on this.
[SPEAKER_09]: And now they're going to be scrambling in Democrats, especially with the shutdown said look.
[SPEAKER_09]: unless you're willing to block decisions, unless you're willing to agree to a CR that you can't go back and re-change the rules on later and help the people with their ACA stuff, you can suck it.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Tiny Johnson said, now, I don't want to.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've got something.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_09]: All right, Karenina from the true blue politics podcast, which you should also subscribe.
[SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely right here for Friday night.
[SPEAKER_09]: Karen happens to have the wonderful comedian gang behind her.
[SPEAKER_09]: She does.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, do you have them again?
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's so excited for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: She didn't.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: She brought her stand-up of man meat behind her, which is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bring my own funny man.
[SPEAKER_04]: The comedy is sexy, okay?
[SPEAKER_04]: It is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the TV.
[SPEAKER_09]: The truth and comedy.
[SPEAKER_09]: Which, you know, good comedy is with the truth.
[SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, I mean, I honestly, although I do wish that there was more acceptance by the mainstream media because of great female comedians, I have never in my life understood the people who, there are douchebag, misogynist guys who say women aren't funny.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like,
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you know, one of them really, really well, Tokyo are high, baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: I will.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't tell women can't beat comedians.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, I mean, it's in a fake.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we can go on and on and on.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that's just it.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I'm like, no.
[SPEAKER_09]: Growing up, I knew that women could be funny.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I never understood when there would be guys going, you know, women can't be funny.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, what hole are you in?
[SPEAKER_09]: You don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Storm I got your eyes moving.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're in the air.
[SPEAKER_05]: See that, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Started with your, who was on my mom show by the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he can before he said that after.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think it was right around the same time.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was at the same set of these.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's it's that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Actually the mid 62's on my mom's show in like 1968, but still.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was right around that time.
[SPEAKER_06]: One of my favorite movies is Bridesmaids.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that's the end down.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's one of the parties.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's hilarious.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, my gosh.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's Maya.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's my dad's funny women out there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there was funny women.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's always been funny women.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: come on people aren't yeah now but you know there there are some guys who just decide they want to be misogynistious whatever whatever I would you know yeah I just I just think that yeah exactly here you said their dummies and because they are I'm like look stupid boys yeah that's gross
[SPEAKER_09]: That's what my wife is very much a big feminist, and that's fine, and you know, in my house, we know who wears the pants of the family and I have a note from her to prove it, but she was a little girl.
[SPEAKER_09]: They lived next to a farm, I guess, and some neighbor, I guess, asked her and said, you know, what happens to the cows later?
[SPEAKER_09]: And she says, well, you know, the girl cows are mommy cows.
[SPEAKER_09]: And neighbors like, okay, and she says, but they, the boy cows are hamburger.
[SPEAKER_09]: Because the girl needs to write my wife.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think it was about three when they asked her that Yeah, I like that You know I understand you know and look there there are obviously she says, you know, she is she's like no You know guys are great.
[SPEAKER_09]: She's especially you know for getting things in the top shelf Then she isn't have to get there.
[SPEAKER_06]: She would open the pickle bars.
[SPEAKER_06]: There you go Like bulbs
[SPEAKER_09]: but you know part of water in the radio is these guys who are like these guys who are like, you know, you know, women aren't funny.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, I just, that's just dumb.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's just dumb.
[SPEAKER_09]: Women can do almost anything that a guy can do.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to, I mean, there are a few, what they say in directors and heels and yes, he has everything friend did, but in heels and backwards.
[SPEAKER_09]: And some of the things that guys can do I'm like I don't want I that I try not to do that myself I don't expect women to do that to women or smarter after enough cocktails in the woods I can even peace standing up
[SPEAKER_09]: Well played, Karen, you went out of the sand.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, not that.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was thinking of a dumb guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you guys heard any of the stuff from the cost of stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: So he was in a house oversight hearing today.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was in a house.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was in a house.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're throwing him under the butt.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah, they really, I think Trump regime is blaming him for all this because he's the one who got that big sweet heart.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Here's the thing is the light.
[SPEAKER_09]: Maxwell Frost representative Frost said today that, and I think Rep Crocket said something similar as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: Basically, the cost of told the house hearing that he didn't really believe Epstein's victims at the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: They cited that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I tell?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: Are you freaking kidding me?
[SPEAKER_09]: Really?
[SPEAKER_09]: just I know we didn't you didn't even listen to them I seriously no no that's typical right yeah and the whole thing is is no matter no matter what that particular deal that was signed off on I believe bar was the ageie at the time he was it had to be signed off by him whatever deal that a cost to did with Epstein had to be signed off bar no wait a minute far wasn't no a cost that did that in like 2006 that's what you're right there and that was a
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... so you have to cost it was a u.s.
[SPEAKER_04]: attorney
[SPEAKER_09]: uh... uh... uh... uh... the agey during two thousand six uh... uh... uh... the dollars yes so that's right point being is it was a republican agey who had to give the blessing for that particular uh... sweet heart deal no matter no matter what across to says and how how much he was denigrating the victims uh... the deal had to be signed off by his republican superiors right
[SPEAKER_05]: Which you know, and then Pambondi later as a state agency.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there was a state stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: They were all It's a costa.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's not the people that we need deep in all of this stuff Well, here's the thing is there is there is an election next I believe it's next Tuesday I'll have to double check, but it is in Arizona to fill Rahul Grhalvus seat.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and his daughter is running
[SPEAKER_09]: And she is likely to win, I won't say, you know, I won't jinx it, but she is likely to win.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, very strongly fair to for those of you who are in Arizona, make damn sure you vote for that special election.
[SPEAKER_09]: But if she gets in, she has said that she will be the final vote on the discharge position that's in the house to get all of the abstract stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: And they will the the moment that she's sworn in and she'll she'll put her name on that discharge petition.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then then that'll be brought and Thomas Massey and Rokana will bring that thing to the floor of the house.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you can bet that the people who are standing with Trump and trying to protect Epstein from the victims and from accountability are going to be freaking out.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll also get up at that goes to the Senate.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no, this chart, this chart, this chart, this chart, this chart, this chart, no, no, it's just over the house to deal with.
[SPEAKER_05]: But didn't Comer today say he wants to hear names from the victims?
[SPEAKER_09]: I missed that it's entirely possible he can he can he can hear and he can get a list of names for the victims But that's not gonna change the discharge petition the discharge petition says the House of Representatives in the majority is requesting the full and complete Epstein files and they will release them to the public after the the information is Redacted for you know for basically protect the victims
[SPEAKER_05]: House oversight chair this morning like six, you know, this this afternoon He said he has the files and But he wants the names of some of the perpetrators from the victims.
[SPEAKER_09]: So so they can compare The install tactic that sounds like a fact But we all know that we all know that calmer is caping for Trump That's good things.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's thrown Trump under the bus
[SPEAKER_09]: Really?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's keeping a life.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's keeping the Epstein files alive if he's thinking.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, Trump's keeping it alive because he's an idiot.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, but they can't.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Comer could stop all of this in a New York minute.
[SPEAKER_05]: He could say no more no more investigations, no more hearings, no more nothing except he couldn't stop the discharge petition.
[SPEAKER_05]: He couldn't stop it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he could stop his own committee and he is not doing that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But those, but those committee hearings, what they're doing is they're just the distractions because they're not really getting any anywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm 95 percent of it is behind closed doors, but still, I mean, the fact that he's keeping it alive is not good for Donald.
[SPEAKER_09]: No, no, 100 percent right on that.
[SPEAKER_09]: I can't disagree with Mama.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't think that Comer is intelligent enough to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think so either.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he brought a selection agent into testify.
[SPEAKER_09]: Colbert Colbert is so dumb that, you know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm busy.
[SPEAKER_09]: As I said, as I said about other people, he couldn't count his eyeballs and get the same number twice.
[SPEAKER_09]: One, uh, one.
[SPEAKER_09]: He wouldn't even, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's done with the box of rocks.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's done with the box of rocks came in.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, he's just an idiot.
[SPEAKER_09]: And,
[SPEAKER_09]: If he were smart, maybe, but I think this is one of the things that still cheers me about Trump's half-ashism.
[SPEAKER_09]: As scary as the stuff at the ice facility is there in Chicago and as scary as some of the stuff is in some of the neighborhoods in Chicago and LA and Memphis, the fact of the matter is these are still half-assed idiots.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're half-finished at all times.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's one of the things that's protecting us because they're so stupid that they already set the list of people that they are going to ask to come in to testify to keep the Epstein story going.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think it's got, let's see, what week we September so I think they've got like three or four more weeks of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's much strategy.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's really no strategy.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just play it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's no strategy.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's, it's, it's Trump's typical thing of try to push the delay out and out and out and out and out because when you press the delay out that far eventually, people will lose interest and forget about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Forget.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the strategy in two weeks.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: People are not forgetting about the Epstein thing on the right because that was one of the reasons that voted for Trump.
[SPEAKER_04]: They ran on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're very, you know, I can tell you, they're very uncomfortable even talking about this or trying to defend it.
[SPEAKER_09]: And on the left, Bruce Bartlett, who I've mentioned before, was was back and forth a little bit about, you know, why are, why are lefties doing this?
[SPEAKER_09]: One of the reason that lefties are hammering on it is because it's splitting the right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: We are not going to let that thing go away.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not, you know, we want all the victims to get whatever accountability that we don't just want it then, too.
[SPEAKER_09]: But they're never going to get a full measure of justice because it's never going to go back to being the way it was before they got attacked.
[SPEAKER_09]: But we do want to see them get accountability.
[SPEAKER_09]: We don't care whether the person's registered R, D, I, whatever.
[SPEAKER_09]: We don't care about that.
[SPEAKER_09]: But
[SPEAKER_04]: We want to, yes, we want them to have just, but we saw that the right was exploiting them and this, and this is okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're exploiting totally Kirk stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's what they do.
[SPEAKER_09]: But this is one of those things, too, with the attack on free speech, where the left is saying, for those of you on the right who actually really do believe in free speech, show it.
[SPEAKER_09]: stand up with us for registry and it's that too is splitting the right it is because you have that group right yep you have that group of people in the right who said the laws are for you but not for us mm-hmm and people have Ted Cruz even which I find I've just got these bro casters yep they're not they're still in us yeah I say should be
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: So because ever we know with Donald Trump, it's like you can be in his favor one day and then I'm going out of that favor.
[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: No oil.
[SPEAKER_04]: He couldn't hear us about anybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a crock of rock that up, but with cash.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I love that too.
[SPEAKER_09]: We got a little more to talk about here.
[SPEAKER_09]: So we're going to do a little bit of after hours, which you will find at the politics bar got calm.
[SPEAKER_09]: You can listen in there as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: Karen Anita thank you guys so much we will hang out with you for a little bit more here and then we'll have you guys back next Friday and hopefully hopefully the updates will be better not not as much ice action and you know I hope so I hope that the weather's core too right yeah I know we have a great set of guests coming up next week obviously some of our reguls are going to share you check this out
[SPEAKER_09]: Look, the weekend is here, get rested, do fun stuff, get your mind off of politics, come back Monday, we'll talk more about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Watch the football.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take care of yourselves.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll see you on Monday.
[SPEAKER_09]: Here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bye everyone.