[SPEAKER_03]: They even had a scene where they said we had a whole funeral for you, and Matt Damon says what was in the coffin.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm joking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Reketopia, a happy home for recommended movies, TV shows, music, video games, foodstuffs, and more from three people you can definitely trust.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trustability varies by region no guarantees implied.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now here are your hosts, Chris Akinson, Jeremy Scott, and Erin Dyson.
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[SPEAKER_05]: from 1997.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can't wait to get into that.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'd also like to welcome chat who have come out here to watch us talk about movies on a Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much chat for coming out here.
[SPEAKER_05]: We appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's get into our small recommends.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's no big deal.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so small and light.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's small.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's tiny.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's petite.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's weak.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Aaron, what do you got?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to talk about the highest grossing animated film of all time, the fifth highest grossing film of all time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to talk about Nejah too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm aware that this exists, but it boggles my mind that it's a sequel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: It has made $2.2 billion worldwide gross, and I wanted to see what all of the fuss was about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did watch the original Naja before, which 2019, I believe, is on Netflix if you want to check it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then watch Naja too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I'll be talking about both, but mostly the second one.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is well worth a watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is some of the most, if not the most visually interesting things I've ever seen on screen.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are doing concepts and big ideas.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then just putting them on the screen for you to gasp at a lot of the box office for this was made on big screens in 3D.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that I haven't seen it in 3D, but I'm sure the 3D works really well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I only saw it 2D showing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but uh, I was blown away by this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say don't start with two.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really important to see one.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really is a sequel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it kind of have to know what happened in the first one to appreciate the story elements of what's happening in the second one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the other place where I think it really succeeds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's,
[SPEAKER_01]: it goes it certainly has some fetch questionists to it like there's you know like three big bads that he has to take on before he can do the ultimate thing you know like that kind of stuff but story wise there's a really interesting thing going on here with what it means to be a monster how we make monsters of people and what it you know what determines whether somebody is good
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, seed of the premise is that there was a pearl that was divided into two and one side was the demon pearl and the other side was the spirit pearl and the spirit pearl was supposed to be given to the third son of this amazing couple and do to some trickery they were given the demon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pearl instead.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so their child has the demon pearl in them, not the spirit pearl.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what happens with the spirit pearl goes to this son of another race of dragons.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they become kind of
[SPEAKER_01]: the frenemies of this series.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, I really had a blast with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's well worth watching.
[SPEAKER_01]: Subd or dubbed when it comes to animation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they do a pretty good job with the dubs in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first one's on Netflix, I think, in the second one is still in theater, or was still in theaters when I saw it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and probably will be coming to streaming soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, man, some of this stuff is, I truly believe it's going to blow your mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is fascinating how
[SPEAKER_03]: different.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our taste can be due to our location on the planet and our culture around us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is neither here nor there, but I was just reading yesterday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Apparently everyone in Hawaii, no matter what race they are, if you live in Hawaii, you eat spam three times a week.
[SPEAKER_03]: They look at a love spam in Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_03]: and that's wild to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, it's cheaper in Hawaii than it is here, which is counterintuitive.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I've been curious about this as I've been reading about it, breaking box office records and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, over here, it didn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one hears talking about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, glad to know it's actually good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and even penetrated my psyche.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had never heard of this before and I and I follow a lot of box office news and stuff and I'll go to variety in a lot of times they'll come out and pick out spec and you know like special international hits and stuff like that to highlight and this one has has alluded to me so it's you know it's
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess they have a hard time marketing this type of stuff out here for whatever reason, even though there's a huge fan base for this type of thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what the problem is because you've gotten me excited to watch it and I hadn't heard of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They they released it here earlier in the year when it was released in China didn't do anything and then after just kept blowing up in China They did a re-release.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they did a an iMac's 3D re-release within the last few weeks in and also in some other theaters So I it's you still can find it or at least you could last week.
[SPEAKER_01]: It may it may be out now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but But yeah, sports could be replaced on screens by a spinal tap tube
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that is correct.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is correct.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I am going to recommend a movie that has a 5.8 on the IMDB currently, and someone on this very panel is also going to disagree with me on this small recommend.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is Spike Lee's highest to lowest, which came out on Apple TV over the weekend, and I gave it a whirl because I love Spike Lee movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can totally see why people who don't like this movie don't like this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Totally get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some there's some very indulgent parts in this movie, especially at the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it gets you on the idea that you're about to watch one thing and then it kind of just goes away from that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think it kind of pulls the rug out.
[SPEAKER_05]: But
[SPEAKER_05]: having I lived in New York for two years and this movie really tapped into a lot of like very specific New York things that really appealed to me in this and and I really just dug it and I've always enjoyed how Spike Lee will introduce some sort of cultural corner stones into his movie that don't really necessarily have anything to do with the plot.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it just kind of like there's these, there's a part where Denzel Washington is like appealing to James Brown and all these past stars for like advice and stuff like that and I just find that endearing that Spike Lee does stuff like this.
[SPEAKER_05]: The story is, Denzel Washington is a wealthy record producer, the label which he works at is about to get sold, but he wants to maintain control and have something and get sort of wants to get excitement into music again.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's all become about money, it's all become about how many clicks you can get on Instagram, it's all these type of things.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he has a son that he takes to a basketball practice.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like one of these, I don't know, like summer basketball school things or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he comes back and the whole story is basically him trying to figure out how to buy some guys shares so that he can vote against the sale and so that he can retain interest in the company and all this up.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually his friend Jeffrey Wrightson who gets kidnapped by mistake.
[SPEAKER_05]: And before he knows that it's just that it's not his son necessarily that's been kidnapped.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's ready to go full on.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's going to spend all the money he has to go out to find this kidnapper who was called him.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the the kidnapper played by a sapporaki, which is kind of funny.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but um, but uh, this is uh, so like he's ready to go full on and then they find out, oh no, it's Jeffrey Wright's son and then suddenly he doesn't want to spin that 16.5 million dollars that he's been asked to do and and it's like, and Jeffrey Wright's like, well, don't you want to, I mean, you would, you were going to do it for your son, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Why, why wouldn't you do it for mine?
[SPEAKER_05]: They both consider each other's sons like their own sons, even except when
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't want to say too much after this because the movie does kind of change after this point because you think it's going to be kind of about this.
[SPEAKER_05]: The moral obligation that he has to does he should he put the money up should he not all this type of thing, but it quickly gets beyond that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I just want to highlight one part of this movie that just made me smile grin ear to ear because it's such a New York thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: They get on a subway that's heading to Yankees Stadium, and Nick Deterrow is playing a Yankees fan on this on this on this butt on the subway and There's all these Yankees fans there but they're about to play Boston.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're all everybody's clapping.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go Yankees.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is something you will see on a subway to Yankees Stadium
[SPEAKER_05]: people all dressed up in Yankees gear being loud and obnoxious.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's exactly what it would happen if you're on this train.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's a whole section here where the kidnapper is trying to get the money and there's a point where the emergency break is pulled.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so neither here know there what happens after this.
[SPEAKER_05]: The
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's a point where they were Spike Lee goes back to the subway, specifically to show Nick to Toro and all these Yankees fans going, Boston pulled the emergency break, Boston pulled them, and exactly what would go on in this type of situation, and I just loved it so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are a lot of parts about this movie, and Spike Lee has apparently entered his 14th season
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's Rosie Perez, playing herself, here's Anthony Romos, playing himself, and then there's a whole like five minute song at the end of the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of things to dislike about this.
[SPEAKER_05]: But ultimately, I did enjoy this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did enjoy Denzel as always.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did enjoy where the story went.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did enjoy all the New York.
[SPEAKER_05]: aspects of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so it's a 5.8 on the IMD, IMDB.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not winning a lot of people over.
[SPEAKER_05]: It won me over.
[SPEAKER_05]: Really enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, I'm not here to yuck any one's yum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so so I will just say there is one moment in this movie, where Denzel Washington is is watching the news on a flat screen television.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he turns it off and it does the cathode ray like, you know, for the other time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And clearly that means this is a terrible movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that just, that made me laugh.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I actually think there, I can, I can also see why people like this movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's, there's a lot of personality to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jeffrey Wright can do no wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's, he's really good in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let's not talk about Dean Winters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I thought,
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, well there's even this but there's a good.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought I well done inside joke on that too because
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a line from the trailer that everybody points out when he and Jeffrey Wright, Denson Washington and Jeffrey Wright are in the car and they're like, you got insurance or something like that and Jeffrey Wright pulls out a gun.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like it's Jake from state farm and that was like a big huge thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then later on, he pulls out a second gun and he says, well, that's mayhem.
[SPEAKER_05]: We which Dean Winters plays play him on the old state.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it really enjoyed that.
[SPEAKER_05]: There was a question in the chat that says, do you need to watch the original high and low to enjoy this?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, the original high and low by the way is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you should watch that to enjoy cinema.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, high and low.
[SPEAKER_05]: The first time that well, but this is a remake of high and low.
[SPEAKER_05]: The first high and low is really good.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a heavy procedural movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: like this is what happens when the cops do their jobs and do it well.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's basically what high and low is all about.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the same story and setup, but it's got, it's more about the cups.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now we're in 2025.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think Spike Lee wants to show the cups doing being super professional and great at their jobs and they're definitely not that good.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're not awful either, but they're not great, especially personified by Dean Winters, the aforementioned Dean
[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, no, not required to watch it, but I would want time low before I watch this movie for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I respect and love when directors make choices, and Spike Lee is making choices in this movie, and that's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just so happens that a lot of those choices didn't work for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's what I think what it comes down to.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jeremy, do you have any other reasons why Aaron is wrong?
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen plenty of those.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't seen the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do have a lot of reasons why Aaron is wrong.
[SPEAKER_05]: But don't even have to have anything to do with this movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, just in general.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a bunch of stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you've just to get me a burst of things that Aaron is wrong about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me pull up my running list of Aaron's Aaron is wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, what do you got for you having everything wrong with air and list that you got to I wish I did if I could pull that up and share my screen right now It would be amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't be honest.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna talk about a movie I had never heard of until I watched it a few days ago and I doubt any of you have heard of it And that's because it made $85,000 at the box office
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a 2024 Canadian film called Fitting In.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it stars Maddie Ziggler, who I'm most remember from fallout with Janet Ortega, but she's apparently also in my old ass or yeah, I haven't seen that yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the conceit, this is a pretty straightforward coming of age movie with a very specific bent, and I'm going to try and use my words carefully here.
[SPEAKER_03]: So her character discovers early in the film that she has MRKH syndrome, which is something that is a rare disorder that happens where a girl does not have a uterus and some other
[SPEAKER_03]: Interior parts and then the vaginal canal is not fully formed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now this is she's 16, she's got a boyfriend, she's about to get sexually active and that's when she learns all this and it throws everything into upheaval.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's got male doctors who are really insensitive and they give her
[SPEAKER_03]: medical devices of certain sizes to try and use over a period of months to make things.
[SPEAKER_03]: work.
[SPEAKER_03]: But she doesn't like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She hates it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and so she's acting weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were about to have sex, but now she won't have sex and her boyfriend ended up dumping her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, she thinks her best friend starts making out with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they fall out.
[SPEAKER_03]: She also meets,
[SPEAKER_03]: non-binary person and they have a friendship slash curiosity and other than that I really wouldn't want to spoil it for you I think it is very unique bent the director herself had this condition so I'm guessing a lot of what you see in the film rings true to what that is like
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the lead actress, Maddie's English.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's just great in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I, I would compare it to, and I'm not trying to make jokes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would compare it to, I just 17 meets teeth only without the assaulty people from teeth.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I really enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a 96 on Rotten Tomatoes, so I don't think I'm alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's only a 6.1 on IMDB though.
[SPEAKER_03]: So maybe it's not as good as I thought it was, but it was interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's basically about her trying to decide who she's going to be and embrace that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so there you go, it's on Stars.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm, all right, all right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have not heard of this one either.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yet another one, I would have to put on the list.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hadn't heard of it either, and it definitely sounds like something I would enjoy.
[SPEAKER_01]: These coming-of-age tales are great when they're out of biographical like that, because you really get a sense of the empathy for what someone else's story must be like, and it's one of my favorite things about watching movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, let's go on to our big recommend, which is the fifth element, and it is Aaron's choice.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, Aaron, take it away.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just a yourself.
[SPEAKER_05]: Big.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so huge.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good rule, but it's bigger than rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bigger on the inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I know this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fifth element is 1997 Luke Bassan film that ended up making $267 million worldwide, making it the most successful French art film of all time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fifth element begins in space, as a giant ship passes by like the movie thinks it's a star war or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: We paned down to the deserts of Egypt in 1914, where an archaeologist is trusting a sleepy disease to provide some light.
[SPEAKER_01]: He yells, a seize, light, and Luke Perry marks down that that has happened a dozen times already.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, he's not counting the thousands of times.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've said it since then anytime I want someone to turn on the lights.
[SPEAKER_01]: At one point, I hope today my Google device is a disease, just for this purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: but then thought better of it once I considered the Iggy geopolitical implications.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, after a failed poisoning, the ship lands in some robot aliens that look like the battle droids from Star Wars made it with the TikTok robot from Return of Oz come by to retrieve the stones and the weapon which is identified in about four or five different roll credit moments already as the fifth element begins.
[SPEAKER_01]: The robots promised to return in 300 years when needed, and the priest promises to protect the secret until then.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're now in the year 2257, and Earth is scared about a new evil planet that is spawn nearby, against the council of the current priest, Father Bilbo, the president fires on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: and it of course only makes things worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: The evil planet sends a skull volcano towards the ship and the general leaks black ooze from his head as he pulls a full sunshine and backs in the glorious radiation of it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back on Earth and Brooklyn, Corbin Dallas, played by Bruce Willis, is waking up grabbing one of his four cigarettes for the day, letting his cat in and disarming a druggy who's wearing some camouflage headwear and also has a lack of understanding about how his gun works.
[SPEAKER_01]: He then heads out in his taxi to look for some passengers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, Father Vito Cornelius Baggins is expositioning to the president how the whole fifth element thing works.
[SPEAKER_01]: When the robot aliens attempt to make their salvation return, but are stopped by act not in his mangle or crew who blow them out of the sky, so much for trusting the robots.
[SPEAKER_01]: But a single hand has survived, and apparently has plenty of DNA fingermajigs to do a reconstruction because it's special or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a machine builds the skeleton and then adds the muscles and finally uses solar bombardment to add the skin, and boy oh boy, it's a woman with orange hair that bears a striking resemblance to me with jove of itch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some thermal strips are deployed for the slimmest of modesty's sake before General Monroe can take some pictures.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just like that, the word underbube became an important part of the vocabulary of adolescence in the 90s.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Awaken creature speaks in a language no one understands grouse like a lion and then pulls a Bruce Willis by using the vents to escape.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though as far as I can tell, no one asked her to come out to the coast and have a few laughs.
[SPEAKER_01]: She eventually does a Peter Pan from that building right here, and survives the crash into Corbin's Taxi with a big Bata Boom.
[SPEAKER_01]: The police arrive in the woman pleads with Dallas to please help, because apparently she can read English and comprehend what it means and speak it for some reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her pleas eventually convinced Corbin to make a run for it in a futuristic chase takes place through various types of McDonald's product placement.
[SPEAKER_01]: He eventually decides to go down through the 3D horizontal traffic to hide in the fog towards the surface.
[SPEAKER_01]: She asked for the priest Vito Cornelius, and so he takes her there, only for the priest to have a fainting spell because of her totally sick tattoo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Corbin then plans a kiss on the sleeping woman
[SPEAKER_01]: Corbin is chased out of the priest house and heads home to lament his mistakes, but not before he learns her name is Lee Lu.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lee Lu back at the priest house is learning the history of everything and eating a very large amount of chicken, but then we meet John Baptist, Emmanuel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zork, played by a very game Gary Oldman, who is finishing up his deal with Aknot to deliver him the four stones.
[SPEAKER_01]: But after the case ends up being empty, he cancels the arms deal, but leaves them with one crate knowing that curiosity will kill the Mangalore cats or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Turns out the stones were entrusted to Plava Laguna, a singer who will be performing at Flossed in Paradise, and this puts in a motion a line of incredible coincidences.
[SPEAKER_01]: Turns out Corbin formerly worked for General Monroe, and they've rigged a contest so that he will go to Flossed into retrieve the stones.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, Priest Vito and Lee Lu dropped by to try to convince him to go to the same place.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then the police stopped by to arrest the meat popsicle, but get the wrong guy for Zorg.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't matter because the Aknot crew is also there to re-kidnap the wrong guy at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's time for everyone to try to take the trip to Flaston.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vito's assistant David tries first, but Corbin rudely interrupts him and takes the spot with his wife, Lillu Dallas multipass.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the Mangalore show up with the wrong face, allowing Vito to sneak in because of the distraction.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that's all out of the way, we get to Chris Tucker is Ruby Rod with the greenest of the supergreen performances as he and his tunnel hair that is somehow both phallic andionic holds court for a few minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Vito sneaks into the landing gear, Zorg's guy gets blown up after being the last person to try to imitate Corbin, and the ship goes through its innuendo late and take off her team to head to flost and paradise.
[SPEAKER_01]: And right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, the voice of darkness from the evil planet to call Zorg to check in and give him a cranial oil leak.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's on to flossed in paradise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Corbin checks in, finds some suits in the wall, and gets a call from his pestering mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Lee Lewis told that Plava Laguna will give her what she came for after the concert.
[SPEAKER_01]: The concert begins with another Ruby Roddick Stravaganza, and we see that the Mangalors are all nearby ready to attack.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plava Laguna then comes out and does an incredible rendition of Ill-Dull Chase, who know, as Zorg shows up with his own bid for the Stones.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Mangalor crew invade Laguna's dressing room as the opera transitions to a techno bent, and Lillu takes out the entire invading horde with some moves she learned from martial arts and three stuages movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chaos then ensues as Zorgarives in the rest of Aknats' crew go full mutiny on the ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zorgarabs the container from Lillu, that he assumes contains the stones, but he decides not to check until he's already headed home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plava Laguna is shot in the melee, and in her dying breath tells him the treasure is buried in my intestines.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does some post-mortem surgery, retrieves the stones, and then tries to survive the ensuing firefight as Ruby Rod continues to narrate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dallas finds his way to the control room where he shoots out not in the head, subduing all his army and ensuring no one will ever greenlight a show on Disney Plus called the Mangalorian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zorg returns to the flost and ship to shut down his third act ticking clock cliché bomb, and does so just before realizing that the Mangalore's had their own bomb on board at which he does his best Jeff Daniels in speed impression before blowing up.
[SPEAKER_01]: The good guys head back to Earth with all the pieces in tow, but the evil planet now has its own ticking clock as the Earth will be impacted in just about the time it takes them to get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: LeLu does some quick heart-breaking lessons on war as our crew lands at the temple to do some basic toddler symbol matching in the world's easiest puzzle.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the stones need unlocked, even after Leeloo just literally spells it out for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It takes a sigh from David to help them realize they need to go full avatar last airbender on the stones so that Leeloo can do her magic.
[SPEAKER_01]: But in her depressed state from her lessons of the ravages of war, she needs one last motivation in the form of Corbin's love before she can laser vomit the dark planet into a new moon for Earth.
[SPEAKER_01]: The movie then ends as the president wants to think our heroes but has to talk to Corbin's mom instead.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Corbin and Lilo are too busy literally embodying the overall message of the movie, make love, not war.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's is the fifth element, guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think this time through?
[SPEAKER_03]: Fuckin' Chris Tucker, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Slab just left the chat after praising Chris Tucker in this movie, but Chris Tucker kind of kills this movie for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of what happens in the climax is just like the shootout in the casino room thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That it's kind of boring.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do love
[SPEAKER_03]: a lot of the last third, just not the last third in and of itself as a whole.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would even say I love the movie, but no, I think this is about 30% too much Chris Tucker and I have seen him be 30% less Chris Tucker in many instances and that would have helped.
[SPEAKER_03]: and I get why he's the favorite part for many people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, okay, so the thing I was struck with most this time through I've seen this movie eight or nine times is the colors, man, the colors pop.
[SPEAKER_03]: the bright oranges and reds, and then the singer blew at the end and the contrast of the colors all the way throughout the film are just it's a visual delight.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Mila Jovevitch makes this movie Bruce Willis is good, but I think plenty of actors could have done the thing Bruce Willis is doing here, whereas Mila Jovevitch is singularly
[SPEAKER_03]: in this movie in a way that I'm not sure too many people could have pulled off.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's childlike, and she makes you fall in love with her not necessarily romantically, although well as apparently does.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, so let's see what else I'm going through my notes here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the world building.
[SPEAKER_03]: The movie is insane, but the universe that's taking place and feels very real.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of what he does well is giving you hints without having to stop and explain every little thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the fog.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a fog at the base of the planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: This explains why they've built up so high and everything flies.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what the fog is.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what caused the fog.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't need that exposition to know
[SPEAKER_03]: how it fits into this, you know, so it's little pockets like that that build the universe in a way that I think is really rewarding for viewers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the subtitle during the car chase when Lily talks, the subtitle literally said yelling in a divine language, and I just love when subtitles can make me laugh like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, there's a whole paragraph about Chris
[SPEAKER_03]: I love, okay, so Gary Oldman is fantastic, and this Gary Oldman is always going to be fantastic, but I love really reaching Gary Oldman.
[SPEAKER_03]: He says he based this portrayal off cross between Ross Perot and Bugs Bunny But there is an all-timeer of a line reading at the end of the movie when he opens the case in his ship and starts laughing
[SPEAKER_03]: and eventually spits out their mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it is maybe one of my favorite line readings of all time, let alone in this movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: He steals every scene that he's in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish he was in a few more scenes and Chris Tucker was not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, I think that's basically, I don't, I get what you're saying, Aaron, at the end there that make love not war, literally, and bought, but I don't like them together.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I know that the movie does,
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, good, good age difference between those two as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's pretty insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like any of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like, well, anyway, oh.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Lupuson.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's horny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, um, the IMDB says that the first draft of the screen play he wrote when he was in high school.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that both explains a lot and is very impressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, I love this movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, if you dial back Chris Tucker 20 30% I might think it's perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, I don't really have too many
[SPEAKER_05]: I would dial Chris Tucker back maybe a little less than you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like Chris Tucker quite a bit in this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think there's some moments in this where he has.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like he doesn't need to be with them after the the Boston stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like
[SPEAKER_05]: have him take some other ship somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_05]: That way he's got that one little moment in the middle and he doesn't have to be with them because after that that's where it starts grating a little bit the screaming and all the other stuff that we've seen it needs to be a little bit like lower dose after that after that point.
[SPEAKER_05]: up until the point that they get off a floss, and though I'm enjoying Chris Tucker all the way through it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really, really like it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember what I thought about this movie when I first watched it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do remember being at my first movie theater when this came out, and Sony had like two huge, like, very, very, like,
[SPEAKER_05]: out there sci-fi movies coming out in the year was this and Starship Troopers both came out the same year and they were I don't remember the fifth element being that terribly big of a hit maybe it was maybe the international box office really uh I don't know how much it made domestically but uh it was like one of the first it was like a May movie fifth element it came out at the beginning of the summer but I don't remember tons of people coming out to see it but
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm really like it now.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I have appreciated a lot more now than I did back then for sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same thing goes for Starship troopers.
[SPEAKER_05]: I watched that the first time.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't like it too much, but this one, I think Chris Tucker probably did great on me quite a bit in the back of 1997.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he was...
[SPEAKER_05]: Chris Tucker, man, this was his year like money talks was a big hit after this that came after and then he was in Jackie Brown later on in in the year so this was a huge year for him is what led to rush hour I'm almost certain almost all this came out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, going over what I was what I liked about this and what I just liked and whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do love Luke Perry being cast to look bored at the beginning of the movie, cracks me up.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's completely mentioned it in the synopsis air and complete with him keeping track of how many times the professor says a z's light, I really really enjoyed that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not that it really matters, but I don't think I understand any of this at the beginning.
[SPEAKER_05]: The aliens come down to get the stones because they aren't safe on Earth, but then they take the stones and arguably put them in even more danger by taking them out of a locked vault.
[SPEAKER_05]: that only they have the key to and don't know if I understand this at all maybe it's some sort of comment on oh they're about to discover atomic energy and it's gonna blow up in an atomic explosion at some point I don't know I don't think I get it um why they take those stones out at that they don't really give an explanation I don't think the movie has an explanation other than plot needs to happen um the stones only work on earth too
[SPEAKER_05]: If they fail to come back, like they say they're going to, then everybody's out of luck, I guess.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I don't know if they can use the stones out there wherever they live or whatever, but People on earth are going to be out of luck because the aliens came down and took the fucking stones.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they decide, they decide to wait exactly the length of time it takes to save the world before they can bring the stones back.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't, and honestly, I don't think I get any of what happens with the stones here.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're like, well, we, we were taking them to you, but we don't really trust humans.
[SPEAKER_05]: So,
[SPEAKER_05]: this didn't really we didn't really have the stones on board that ship but we did have the fifth element and you can recreate her if she wants if you want to blah blah blah oh if you want to get the stones oh we've stuffed them inside of a deep or the diva has stuffed them inside of her so you've got to go to another planet she's gonna have to i guess sacrifice herself if she doesn't get shot and pull these stones out of her bot i don't know if i get any of that plot at all
[SPEAKER_01]: It's she probably like a like is it birds that you stones for digestion and they can spit them back up It's probably something like that Exactly like that she has some sort of you know stone stomach.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's exactly like that And the chat Always saying now she just birth them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: What if you say so
[SPEAKER_05]: Then okay, so then I love Matthew Castle vets who plays the mugger at the beginning of the movie Then he'd get me the cash I love that so much He made a character that could have been completely forgetful or you could just you would I mean he you could have totally and he made him like
[SPEAKER_05]: very memorable.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's the guy, by the way, in Omelay, that Omelay falls for, and he directed a movie called Hate, that is really good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Try to find that movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's La Han, La Han, or I can't pronounce the French one, but he directed the movie called Hate, it's really, really good if you ever run across it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, this is Milo Joe of it just best performance ever easily.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, if it wasn't for the fact that she was indazed and confused, this would be your best movie too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, uh, it was funny though that a lot of this perfect being stuff in relation to her is kind of embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I guess that's what you get when you have a screenplay originally wrote by a 15 year old.
[SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't any dating or when they made this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they did the passion project, the messenger Joan of Arc right after this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember being really excited for that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that crashed and burned.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, then, uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you know, it's like, hey, how did she know she could jump through that foil in the lab?
[SPEAKER_05]: This is one of the random comments I wrote down.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, just, I like, I guess when we were, I think it's like, I thought I was sending this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Gary Oldman is at his 1990s best in this when there's so many 90s performances that you can group in here true romance a few years before of course the part Leon the professional by loop a song comes in comes to mind as well this is just Gary Oldman doing doing a fearless comic performance I love that gun demonstration all the way through how he's moving how he's talking
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I love when Zorg opens the case, and there's no stones there, and it just cuts to Lee Logo.
[SPEAKER_05]: Love that Zorg's table that tells him water, fruit, when that comes out to give it, given the water in the fruit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he grabbed something and it says cherry.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, cherry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it when the the cops come by and they got the wrong Corbin Dallas and and the guys like smoke you It's just such a weird thing to say it's a great different.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a different kind of like insult to just like smoke you
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I did write down that Chris Tucker is a scene stealer.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad that I did.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad that I went second on this one I'm completely dragged me down to hear Jeremy hate him so much The whole thing with the ship.
[SPEAKER_05]: You two mentioned this to Aaron about to take off Intercut with Ruby Rod having sex with the flight attendant is a little hand-handed because it's it feels like they're trying.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes It feels like they're trying to
[SPEAKER_05]: make that parallel, but then he intercuts it with a lot of other stuff that doesn't really go along with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I do love the fact that he is cutting down to the ground crew.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're like smoking weed, and they're like burning these little parasites that are in the wheel wells, talking about world building.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's one of those type of things that I think is is really fun about the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: there's obviously a a a a a low in the action we want to get from one place to another.
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's a whole bunch of stuff that's fun and entertaining while you wait for the next bit of action to happen and I thought that was a really well done scene other than just it seemed a little hand at.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love how Corbyn's mom somehow discovers how to call him on another planet in his hotel room to continue complaining about him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought that was really funny.
[SPEAKER_05]: And finally, I find it extremely hilarious that it takes until the letter double you until we literally learns about war.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know it's unintended humor.
[SPEAKER_05]: but it's funny as hell to me that it takes until double you and not like any other number of things you could on a farm you know exactly any other number of things that she could have found on that you know the alphabet of
[SPEAKER_05]: history of the universe thing I did I found I find it's a supposed to be a scene where you're being like oh Yeah, she's just now learning about war.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is so much to take that's like that's like You know Alex and the chair and and clockwork are and John most you know She's learning about all this type of stuff and then you go back and wait a minute Did she not learn about guns atomic bombs?
[SPEAKER_05]: Different kinds of wars.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean like all this other stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's hilarious
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, overall still I enjoy this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I have appreciated it more over time I think it was after a for a while there.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was just kind of like, oh, that's okay movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I watch this movie with delight So there you go
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I probably watched this movie 50 times between it's, you know, release on, you know, home media on DVD at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I, you know, started having kids in the 2000s, I then I just, I don't think I've seen it since.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think it's been probably 20 years, maybe since I put it in.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's really amazing to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: As much as I watch this movie, how much I missed with my eyes of 20 years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like how we change and what we pay attention to and what we see, there are some things that make sense just because I was sheltered or what I'm like, I completely missed the whole thing where the guy's like, you know, the cat comes in and he says, he's got a cat and he's like, yeah, you prefer it to the real thing or what I'm completely missed that word play.
[SPEAKER_01]: And until I watched it this time or whatever, and you know, a lot of that kind of stuff I missed, I'm also focused on a lot more of shot selection and different interesting things.
[SPEAKER_01]: My favorite scene this time through was probably when Cornelius confronts Zorg in his office and they're having this TEDOTET about whether chaos,
[SPEAKER_01]: brings about action more than love or whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of again, the central theme of the movie, if there is one, and there's this shot of him breaking the glass where he flicks the glass across the table and the shot is from the perspective of where the glass is going to fall off the table and he just, it's so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lay up, just like that's just the perfect shot of that movement.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just noticing stuff like that this time through give me a little bit of respect for the filmmaking of this movie that I mostly enjoyed earlier because I thought it was creative and the world building was awesome and it was funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Chris Tucker was amazing, you know, for those reasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: But now I have all these other reasons to love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, I will talk about Chris Tucker a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think he's perfect in this, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what it is, I actually agree with what you said, Chris about maybe leaving him on Flashton or having a different exit from Flashton and not staying with our heroes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That might have been better.
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, when he's doing his stick on Flashton, it's like he was given permission to go like the Super Saiyan version of Chris Tucker where he just gets to be, it reminds me of Ace Venture and some of those earlier movies where Jim Carrey just gets to be the sun.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and just gets to go where he wants to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are very few people who have that dial like that where they can go that big and be that in my opinion, entertaining in that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so to see him do that here was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also because the movie feels
[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit like Mulan Rouge, where it's elevated reality, where you forgive a lot of the over-the-topness and ridiculousness because you know that you're in a very specific kind of movie or specific kind of world.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I think Baz Lerman called them like red curtain movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you know you're watching something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the curtain opens and you get to enter a new reality.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this movie feels like that in the Chris Tucker performance because of that really really works for me, but yeah, I really loved it this time through, you know, it's it's it's very clear to me that that Luke was on has this
[SPEAKER_01]: really interesting brain that can build worlds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't revisited it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure why it works here and not in his more recent one.
[SPEAKER_01]: The title.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Valerian thousand planets.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's probably deemed a hunt.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know we blame him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I might be the casting a little bit, but the world building in it's not terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, this, this has so much more life to it feel so much more, um, you know, straightforward.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I follow it really well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get confused during this movie as much world building as he's doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never confused.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I had a blast watching it again and, uh, glad, glad, glad, glad, glad, glad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why does he let the cat out overnight and where's it supposed to go?
[SPEAKER_05]: Where's the cat going?
[SPEAKER_05]: How about that restaurant service, though, by the way, that you guys have a floating ship that comes over by as window and makes the food there?
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a great idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have you here, Meals.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I have exactly what I said.
[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely love the floating noodle cart, but I think that is a terrible business idea and I would never invest in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because you're only serving one customer at a time, the whole time, as opposed to customers coming to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But again, I don't I don't think this is world where you can walk anywhere, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's a fall So you're going anywhere you're floating there, so like us, but it's very cool world building so I love it Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, uh, let's get on to our super secret double feet sure
[SPEAKER_04]: be very, very quiet.
[SPEAKER_04]: She quit watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Gary, a little secret to tell you something I've never told anyone.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, so I thought of, and I'm not going to say any of these in case they are yours, Jeremy, but I'll go straight on to mine, but I'll talk about others that I thought of.
[SPEAKER_05]: And at least one was mentioned before this, but
[SPEAKER_05]: I went with something pretty plot-basic here, the fact that we have this giant evil being that's like coming towards Earth needs to be stopped thought of Dr. Strange quite a bit on this one.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I felt like Dr. Strange would be a good super-sugar double feature for this one, Dormamu and all of that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they don't
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't beat this giant ball of fire like Dr. Strange does, but that sort of that very thin plot connection was what gave me the I thought of a lot of other stuff, but I'm going to let Jeremy go ahead and give me a give his.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will I will also share some other stuff after I give mine, but I'm pretty set on mine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm double featuring a movie that is Zany that has an over the top villain, that has over the top action, that has sci-fi elements, and has someone reluctantly protecting someone else who's vulnerable, who literally landed in their vehicle, I'm going with last action hero.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think the tone, you just mentioned how full of life fifth element is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the jovial, not a real universe over the top, everything that's happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think those would be a good tonal pair up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was funny you mentioned Dr. Strange because of something coming to Earth.
[SPEAKER_03]: to destroy it, I had Star Trek 4, the Voyage home, written down for a good while there because it's equally zaining.
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, I think this movie is essentially the sci-fi version of the professional.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, last action here was my choice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah that's a good one.
[SPEAKER_05]: I totally agree with that one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Aaron mentioned Mulan Rouge which was one that I had thought of earlier on just because it's very bad to learn and ask throughout this thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I've used Mulan Rouge as a super secret double feature before though and that's the reason why I ended up not doing that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't bother to research whether I had
[SPEAKER_05]: But I felt pretty confident in it enough to not use it.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's also, this must be French filmmaker thing because there's a lot about this movie that reminded me of the Jean-Pierre's, the name movies that we're coming out in the 90s, City of Lost Children and things like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jean-Pierre Jean-Ae had his own sci-fi masterpiece this year, Alien Resurrection.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, after Raylin's three, Resurrection was a stuff-up, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I would agree with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would agree with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's a lot of Jean-Pierre Jean-Ae type of stuff in this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like
[SPEAKER_05]: the the the the French definitely have I guess the Jerry Lewis influence like you always heard about that you always hear about that when you grow up about the the French audience is they love they love them some Jerry Lewis and it seems like it comes off a little bit in these comedies that you see that come out but anyway um hey hey I thought I think those were such a couple good does they put in a little bit just for sure yeah
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, next week's homework, it'll be my choice.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a movie that I have talked about many times before, but I have never pulled the trigger on making it a big recommend.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is going to be 1977's Sorcerer, William Freak and Drake.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is a movie that I have really only read, even though I've talked about it a lot, I feel like I've only recently
[SPEAKER_05]: I only recently watched this maybe five years ago if that and maybe it was longer I don't know but when I first watched it I was I had avoided this for the longest time because it's still had its reputation from the 70s as as a like a not as good as William Friedkin Could could do type of movie because he had done the French connection.
[SPEAKER_05]: He had done the exercises and this movie was not as good as those or whatever and
[SPEAKER_05]: I like source of her better than the access list.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I like it better than French connection, but I love this movie a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is also a remake.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not trying to connect to Aaron's, Aaron's what, well, that was what we're going to do.
[SPEAKER_05]: not trying to connect anything to anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what I was trying to connect.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I was trying to connect the highest to lowest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is an interesting connection.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: But no, this was a remake of The Wages of Fear, which is also a great movie, and I saw it on the big screen in the last year.
[SPEAKER_05]: I prefer sorcerer, but I think I'm also biased because I saw it first before I saw wages appear.
[SPEAKER_05]: Both of them are very good though and so yeah looking forward to doing that have you guys seen sorcerer?
[SPEAKER_03]: So no this is a list of shame movie for me and I have a funny story about this because when you initially recommended this on the previous podcast we used to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: You sold it so hard
[SPEAKER_03]: that I, it's near the top of my want to watch list.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I very, nearly about six weeks ago, very, nearly made this big recommend without even having seen it, because I'm not confident I'm going to like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I wanted an excuse to watch it with intent.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now you have given that to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm very, very, very, very excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've seen wages of fear and sorcerer and I love them both.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I agree, I, it's really close.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're both really good, but sorcerer, there's especially a couple scenes in sorcerer that just elevated kind of next level for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, there's an added element of tension to the movie that's not
[SPEAKER_05]: The way to the fear still does it, it just feels like there's something about this that it really felt like it was dangerous making the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's where it gets to that point.
[SPEAKER_05]: So but anyway, looking forward to doing that one next week, I hope all of you guys enjoy it too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Looks like we have time for a question.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm listening.
[SPEAKER_05]: What movie score slash theme do you think would work well with a totally unrelated movie?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can hop it on this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: First, I have often said that the greatest score for a terrible movie is the score from last airbender.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I want to find it a nice tone, because that score is amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's interesting is, everywhere I think it would be amazing already has really good score.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I went ahead and went with the crouching tiger.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that score is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's something
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting and you know, uh, has a lot of grandeur from that last airbender score that I'd love to see in a movie like crouching, uh, tiger hidden dragon.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, yeah, it's it's it's it's it's one of my favorite scores is just pop on if I'm in like a movie music listening mode and it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_05]: To this day, I still haven't seen the last airbender.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Delected video was all Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was back in the day when we would solo Sims videos.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so I didn't watch the last airbender.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I still haven't seen it this day.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's a movie that I always hear about having this great soundtrack.
[SPEAKER_05]: So like, you know, going to have to at least listen to the music at some point.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, generally we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I have seen the Martian, oh, God, I have had the Martian on, or seen it, we're approaching 70 five times at this point in my life, it's probably going to end up challenging the matrix for my favorite movie in a few years, but the score to that movie,
[SPEAKER_03]: is really understated, but it's perfect for what you're watching, which is a man on his own, trying to figure out how to stay alive, and I think it would work really well under cast away.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think, I can't really tell you what the score to cast away is off the top of my head.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not one that has resonated or stayed with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It may be a perfectly good score.
[SPEAKER_05]: Alan Sylvestery slander, I, you know, I will not, I'll buy it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure it's perfect for the movie, but I do think the Martian score would work well under another survival type situation by cast away.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's isn't that basic, the Martian is basically gasped away on most on Mars.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I think it would totally work.
[SPEAKER_03]: The even had a scene where they said, we had a whole funeral for you and Matt Damon says, what was in the coffin?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is a score that I love.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually the last score that Bernard Hermann ever did.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's for the one for taxi driver, which is a very...
[SPEAKER_05]: saxophone, a heavy score that really works well with taxi driver, for sure, but I thought it, and not that I don't like the sound, the, the, the, a scored of rounders, grounders has its own, I feel like almost iconic music at this point, but I feel like taxi drivers music would go really well with rounders as well, that, that, that just that solo sax playing all the way through it and everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the movie would be a little bit more serious than what rounders is, ultimately, if you kind of use that music, but there's so many like night scenes and rounders that I think go, that kind of score goes well with and everything.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's the one that I picked for that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's all right.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is going to, well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just a real quick, real quick.
[SPEAKER_05]: The chat says, let's see, let's see, Pauli says, Harry Potter theme over some Christmas movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the Harry Potter theme would definitely fit a Christmas movie, and I always think of Christmas when that when that John Williams score goes through and everything, so I agree with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Castro says the credible score over Superman this with this following this past year Superman would be a good one.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean and I'm never going to fight you on Michael Giacano being on any yeah seriously movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: James says the stylings of ratatoui score would fit into Pixar's
[SPEAKER_05]: Pauli says, Anyana Jones theme over dialogue, that would be interesting, and then J.C.
[SPEAKER_05]: says, I feel like Blade Runner soundtrack might work well with taxi driver, and I agree with you on that one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Totally agree with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of rookie quarterbacks are technically second year quarterbacks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess JJ McCarthy last night's as a Michigan fan was nice to see him Pull it out in the fourth quarter He's funny.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a kind of struggling kind of struggling than all of a sudden.
[SPEAKER_05]: He looked like Tom Brady Yeah, I think that we did have the Tom Brady look and everything
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's the easiest comparison, uh, you know, both quarterbacks, the one championships at Michigan and then didn't have necessarily a ton expected of them in the NFL and have something to prove.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I guess they said on the, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: the broadcast that he's only lost three times and is a tire career since high school or something like that like he's like 66 and three or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, but I imagine there'll be plenty more losses on his docket over the years.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, yeah, that was, that was an impressive little
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, sort of, like, when I was growing up, um, you know, I went for, oh, I'm from Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I will root for Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Tennessee, UT is technically my college team.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't ride them to the point of, oh, it's going to ruin my day if they lose or any of that type of thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I kind of snapped out of UT fandom 20 something years ago.
[SPEAKER_05]: and just I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not a big college football fan, but I will watch it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I'm generally a root for Vanderbilt and UT and, you know, and hope that they do well, but it won't, it doesn't, you know, doesn't affect me if they do, if they lose.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy, you have any college teams?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, when I was in middle school in high school, because of where we lived, I was a massive Indiana who's your fan.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that happened to coincide with them winning the national championship with Keith Smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hit not Jeff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And in Indiana, you either, it's a basketball state, and you either Purdue or you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, I mean, once I left and went to college,
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, honestly, I don't want to hijack this conversation, but I think school spirit is really fucking stupid and I don't understand 55-year-old men like rooting on the team where they went to school 30 years ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: What doesn't make any damn sense to me at all?
[SPEAKER_01]: What about what about 50-year-old men who are out on a team they never went to school at?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that better or worse?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's better, Aaron.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shhh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just making sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just making sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I root for the Orioles because I lived in Baltimore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a Jason, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, when I was in high school, I never felt the need to go to the game on Friday night and cheer on the guys who picked on me every week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Totally.
[SPEAKER_03]: the fact that I am confined to this school with you does not give us any kind of bond.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not attached to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just live near the school like I do and that's all it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think rooting interest itself is, it's all made up clearly, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But in somehow it stands in for this evolutionary tribal thing that it's hard to shake as a human being, where it's like, you know, I have to have some sort of team to, you know, like, this is my team and we're the best in, you know, kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: completely unimportant things, you know, and it's all made up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all made up.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why anytime there's gatekeeping about who can and can't be fans of something, it just blows my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, everybody has a stupid made-up reason to be a fan of something,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You talking about the people who picked on me or whatever, going on to root them on and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't say I got picked on too much, I mean, probably because I was six foot four in high school.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, same.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't stop.
[SPEAKER_05]: That didn't stop people from doing that, you know, they didn't stop it, you know, if you were a football on a football team or whatever, you had this natural, like, you know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: natural bullying us to you if something went wrong uh... went sideways and i got a taste of that because i wrote for the school paper and when you are and i think i was seventeen when i was writing for this paper um... you know they they i got put on sports because i was a sports person and blah blah blah
[SPEAKER_05]: there are a number of things wrong with me writing an article about high school football number one I did not go to the game number two I just you know found out about what happened from the notes that somebody on the team took or whatever
[SPEAKER_05]: and three I needed an editor, bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Someone to tell me, are you sure you want to write this way?
[SPEAKER_05]: And none of that came to fruition.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I wrote this one article, because a guy on our team scored four touchdowns.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was like, oh, all right, you know, this guy, you know, I said, do you think of football's a team sport, but this guy did it all, you know, just, you know,
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, only the running back has any accolades when he scores touchdowns is not the offensive line or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I wrote that and nobody came around to me to say, hey, you know, you might want to, you know, spruce up the rest of the team or not say something about one guy doing it all or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it got published that way and I remember vividly walking out of gym one day walking around the corner two football players that were sitting by a corner.
[SPEAKER_05]: They saw me and they just rained you suck you suck you suck right at me as I walk past Jesus.
[SPEAKER_03]: high school's awful.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't watch any football.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just happened to notice that he had like five or six tucked down something to see.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was a stupid game.
[SPEAKER_05]: Steelers Jets game.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was, it was, it was a, supposed like the Vegas line was 38 was the over under on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: 38 points total between the teams.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they ended up scoring like 70 or something like that between them.
[SPEAKER_05]: So 66, I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: I ended up being in like, you know, just in fields who can't really throw passes, suddenly with throwing passes, like he was Tom Brady all of a sudden, this is second time Brady reference of the outtakes, but you know, this is the other thing that happens after week one is that.
[SPEAKER_05]: All summer I've been hearing like fantasy football experts like this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this now week one has happened and suddenly Oh, we were so wrong about this and that and the other thing and I'm just like guys, do you not do you not remember like every week one in history like
[SPEAKER_05]: It's weirdest things happen on week one.
[SPEAKER_05]: First off, the offenses are not ready to go in week one.
[SPEAKER_05]: They've not really been playing the entire preseason, especially now that they added the 17th game and preseason's three games and they don't play their starters that much.
[SPEAKER_05]: or at all times or at all sometimes and then they go out week one and guess what this game is much faster and more ridiculous than it was in the preseason and you haven't played it in almost seven months now so like like oh we were so wrong about this guy or this this is definitely the role this person has and whatever and like guys you just
[SPEAKER_05]: you cannot make definitive statements after week one you just can't it's the same it's the same every year and i'm sitting here playing fancy football going well who should i overreact to over this past week that i might want to put in my lineup and how many people should i you should i just keep and just see how they how they do and not worry about week one it's going to be you know i just going to be a frenzy for a couple of players over the weekend so
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, as a as a Lions fan, it was an interesting over reaction weekend because you come out of the game and you go, oh, we're going to be terrible this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess we shouldn't you guess Ben Johnson was everything and then Monday night comes and Ben Johnson can't score touchdown after the first half and it's like, oh, maybe it wasn't the loss of Ben Johnson.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we're going to be okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, and just it's so much over the action time.
[SPEAKER_05]: It takes time and like,
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, the coordinator situation in Detroit is probably going to affect things a little bit, but look at the people you have on the field right I mean it's just kind of
[SPEAKER_05]: hanging.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're probably not going to be as nobody even with even with Ben Johnson this year.
[SPEAKER_05]: You weren't going to be as crazy as last year.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to this last year was unrepeatable.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So anyway, it's it's it's hard after one week to just be like, oh, I got to stay calm, but that's that's the kind of that's that's the human nature isn't it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, and it's also that thing where every single team is either undefeated or hasn't won a game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like here either the best possible record or the worst possible record.
[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody's over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're going to make another then diesel, which hunter movie?
[SPEAKER_05]: Looks like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Another one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, um, dudes coming out of retirement.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's good enough to get Michael Kane out of retirement to to be in the last, which 102.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't, I don't get it either.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did the first movie even make any money?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it was a hit.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it could have been.
[SPEAKER_03]: It could be a streaming hit for all of those things where they're just like, well, we've got this IP, and we don't have to pay for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's make something with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what's going on?
[SPEAKER_05]: I have come to the conclusion that.
[SPEAKER_05]: there are so many shady things going on in the movie world about how they finance things and what they do to justify the things that they do and all this other stuff to to think that yeah someone's going to make money here it's whoever is there's going to be a person it's going to be a person or a group of persons who will make money off the last witch under
[SPEAKER_01]: the being made the first one was an international hit apparently it only made like 27 here but it made like a hundred nineteen world wide or something um that'll do it 146 total so the 908 especially if it didn't cost much to make it was huge in Belgium yes huge in Belgium