WEBVTT 00:00.191 --> 00:03.234 [SPEAKER_00]: This episode of choose table is brought to you by ten by ten. 00:03.695 --> 00:08.980 [SPEAKER_00]: A movement dedicated to helping faith matter more to ten million young people over the next ten years. 00:09.220 --> 00:15.606 [SPEAKER_00]: Through innovative resources and collaborative efforts, ten by ten supports youth discipleship across diverse communities. 00:15.967 --> 00:24.315 [SPEAKER_00]: Visit one zero one zero dot org and follow at ten by ten collab on social media to learn more and join the movement. 00:24.991 --> 00:26.232 [SPEAKER_00]: Sisters, how y'all feel? 00:26.912 --> 00:28.253 [SPEAKER_00]: Brothers, y'all all right? 00:28.653 --> 00:31.895 [SPEAKER_00]: If this is your first time at Truth's Table, welcome to the table. 00:32.095 --> 00:34.617 [SPEAKER_00]: And you've been sitting at the table with us all these years. 00:34.877 --> 00:38.039 [SPEAKER_00]: We are so grateful that you have been listening to us through these years. 00:38.099 --> 00:44.563 [SPEAKER_00]: And we are inviting you to partner with us and support our work at patreon.com slash Truth's Table. 00:44.863 --> 00:47.824 [SPEAKER_00]: Now pull up a chair and have a seat at the table with us. 00:48.545 --> 00:50.046 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey y'all, welcome to Truth's Table. 00:50.206 --> 00:51.567 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a culture for grace and truth. 00:51.667 --> 00:52.187 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a camany. 00:52.647 --> 00:53.328 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm Christina. 00:53.928 --> 00:56.409 [SPEAKER_00]: This table is built by black woman and four black women. 00:56.589 --> 00:57.590 [SPEAKER_00]: So welcome to the table. 00:57.610 --> 00:58.730 [SPEAKER_00]: See how you doing. 00:59.510 --> 01:02.052 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's, um, it's a time. 01:02.072 --> 01:04.113 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's a time. 01:04.213 --> 01:06.394 [SPEAKER_01]: There's been, there's, there's a heaviness in the land. 01:06.454 --> 01:06.854 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a, 01:08.000 --> 01:12.082 [SPEAKER_01]: uh, provocation, perculations, precipitation. 01:12.242 --> 01:13.542 [SPEAKER_01]: There's problems in the land. 01:13.602 --> 01:14.423 [SPEAKER_01]: High allations. 01:14.643 --> 01:15.463 [SPEAKER_01]: High allations. 01:15.623 --> 01:16.104 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 01:16.184 --> 01:17.104 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 01:17.204 --> 01:19.325 [SPEAKER_01]: It's time for our resentering to take place. 01:19.365 --> 01:20.846 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I can go on and on about that. 01:20.866 --> 01:23.907 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the only way episode that is that is just jacked up out here. 01:23.947 --> 01:25.908 [SPEAKER_00]: But besides, there's still resistance. 01:26.028 --> 01:28.589 [SPEAKER_00]: All the things we've been talking about. 01:28.669 --> 01:30.369 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know since the inception of true stable. 01:30.850 --> 01:31.870 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm out of resistance. 01:31.930 --> 01:33.171 [SPEAKER_00]: I just need it. 01:33.251 --> 01:33.811 [SPEAKER_00]: Just do right. 01:34.031 --> 01:36.452 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I need a still resting. 01:36.812 --> 01:38.032 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I'd like to get there. 01:38.412 --> 01:39.293 [SPEAKER_00]: Still resting. 01:39.353 --> 01:40.113 [SPEAKER_00]: How about that? 01:40.533 --> 01:41.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, gosh. 01:41.213 --> 01:42.514 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's another journey. 01:42.734 --> 01:44.634 [SPEAKER_01]: It's making all our children overclined. 01:44.734 --> 01:46.355 [SPEAKER_01]: Still reclined is what I say. 01:46.415 --> 01:47.275 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I say. 01:47.295 --> 01:48.595 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, it's necessary. 01:48.615 --> 01:50.156 [SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing today? 01:50.716 --> 01:53.420 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the times are timing, but I'm glad to be at the table with you. 01:53.440 --> 02:01.611 [SPEAKER_00]: That's an ancestor and accesses at the table and our folks in the standing room section, because we, you know, Tuesday was always cooking up a little something. 02:02.051 --> 02:02.632 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 02:02.792 --> 02:07.258 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we actually have a new series, the first of its kind. 02:08.079 --> 02:08.799 [SPEAKER_00]: at true stable. 02:08.839 --> 02:10.440 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've already published it. 02:10.940 --> 02:13.161 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember the one we were unprecedented. 02:13.181 --> 02:19.283 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing that is not now, it's just such a traumatic term now for us. 02:19.323 --> 02:21.244 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like, from the people. 02:21.524 --> 02:24.786 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what we did in a good way, y'all. 02:25.206 --> 02:35.130 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the true stable is really a values, you know, the voice is in perspectives, you know, of our people, you know, from 02:36.530 --> 02:41.672 [SPEAKER_00]: generationally social location, you saw that very a little bit from the season as well. 02:42.452 --> 02:43.872 [SPEAKER_00]: Still resisting series. 02:43.932 --> 02:52.094 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we are so excited to introduce to you a new series called Teens at the table. 02:52.334 --> 02:53.595 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on, Teens at the table. 02:53.895 --> 02:56.256 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, this is what they do in that. 02:59.250 --> 03:05.794 [SPEAKER_01]: And for those who are listening to this, she's making all kinds of miming. 03:07.976 --> 03:09.517 [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, you're like, they're doing what? 03:09.577 --> 03:10.478 [SPEAKER_01]: What's happening? 03:10.498 --> 03:14.280 [SPEAKER_01]: She has nothing in locking as what it looks like for my friends. 03:18.303 --> 03:20.484 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're excited. 03:20.545 --> 03:22.606 [SPEAKER_00]: First of all, let me say that we are partnering. 03:23.827 --> 03:26.048 [SPEAKER_00]: Our ministry partners, ten by ten. 03:26.068 --> 03:27.429 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on, ten by ten. 03:28.670 --> 03:34.874 [SPEAKER_00]: For teens at the table, you know, this is a ministry that is seeking to make faith matter. 03:34.894 --> 03:43.259 [SPEAKER_00]: For teens as we know that there has been a decline in the commitment to faith among younger generations. 03:43.379 --> 03:44.620 [SPEAKER_00]: And so they want 03:45.461 --> 03:53.589 [SPEAKER_00]: to help people come to faith teens, in particular, I'm sorry, come to faith from about age thirteen to eighteen, because it's very critical. 03:54.930 --> 04:03.459 [SPEAKER_00]: Point in somebody's faith journey, they want ten million teens to come to faith within ten years and so choose table. 04:04.679 --> 04:17.043 [SPEAKER_00]: shares that that mission and that kingdom goal if you will and so we thought it would be great for us the partner with ten by ten in this way by bringing a team at the table series. 04:17.203 --> 04:20.625 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think our losses are going to think about that? 04:21.225 --> 04:27.347 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I hope they I hope they enjoyed I hope they sign on I hope they learn and are willing to listen to 04:28.067 --> 04:34.534 [SPEAKER_01]: the stories, experiences of the teams that we had to talk to that are at the table. 04:34.634 --> 04:42.301 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's a real, you know, young, young, that we are, we are selective women. 04:42.622 --> 04:44.744 [SPEAKER_01]: Like we don't hand the mics over to anybody. 04:45.663 --> 04:52.966 [SPEAKER_01]: And so when we shape our content, we really do bear a great deal of responsibility about who we bring on and what we talk about. 04:54.027 --> 04:57.548 [SPEAKER_01]: But we were just really excited about bringing young people. 04:57.568 --> 04:58.849 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how you know how old we are. 04:58.929 --> 05:00.289 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the worst young people. 05:02.590 --> 05:25.840 [SPEAKER_01]: to come to the table and to really as to share their heart as comfortable as they could be in this context right with a mic in front of your face but really excited to have built out that programming and and honestly it came to you right at the at the beginning points of the conceptual conceptualizing of that content and tell me a little bit about what you are thinking in the brain storm is shout out to 05:26.780 --> 05:35.809 [SPEAKER_01]: Our dear sister Stephanie, who also works behind the scenes at Truth's Table, who's a youth minister and excellent at what she does, who joined us in this collaboration. 05:36.069 --> 05:37.931 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Ruby PA Stephanie. 05:37.951 --> 05:45.679 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, but tell us a little bit about kind of the initial dreaming up of teens at the table. 05:46.179 --> 06:05.410 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, so at ten by ten, they're, you know, already stated their mission, but they were seeking, they are, sorry, not were, but are seeking to implement this faith and service, you know, projects and so they're partnering with several different ministries and giving us the liberty. 06:06.210 --> 06:11.974 [SPEAKER_00]: to shape that in a way that fits with our own ministry, which I'm so grateful for. 06:12.354 --> 06:18.239 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we have a lot of latitude and liberty to kind of dream up what we would want to do. 06:19.399 --> 06:27.565 [SPEAKER_00]: To me, I thought it was really important for us to hear from an intergenerational perspective. 06:27.925 --> 06:32.668 [SPEAKER_00]: It was important for us to hear from teens to hear what they think. 06:33.169 --> 06:34.490 [SPEAKER_00]: How do they think about their faith? 06:35.230 --> 06:36.591 [SPEAKER_00]: regard to politics. 06:36.651 --> 06:38.112 [SPEAKER_00]: How did they think about their faith? 06:38.393 --> 06:39.513 [SPEAKER_00]: We're regard to mental health. 06:39.834 --> 06:41.095 [SPEAKER_00]: How did they think about their faith? 06:41.675 --> 06:44.517 [SPEAKER_00]: We're regard to relationships and so on and so forth. 06:44.577 --> 06:58.048 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we had when we were ideating, we thought that we would just build out very much like true stable episodes that deal with that specific area and talking some god talk. 06:58.488 --> 06:58.969 [SPEAKER_00]: if you will. 06:59.969 --> 07:02.131 [SPEAKER_00]: With the teens to hear, what are they going through? 07:02.151 --> 07:03.633 [SPEAKER_00]: What are their troubles? 07:03.653 --> 07:05.354 [SPEAKER_00]: So what are their challenges? 07:05.414 --> 07:11.540 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I know, I mean, I'm, I'm old enough to recognize that, well, first of all, the fashions are coming back. 07:11.560 --> 07:13.061 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, yeah. 07:13.101 --> 07:14.402 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no. 07:14.642 --> 07:15.563 [SPEAKER_01]: No, the hairstyles. 07:15.603 --> 07:16.284 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, come on. 07:18.185 --> 07:23.609 [SPEAKER_00]: But I recognize that, although all those things are coming back, they're dealing with a completely different world. 07:24.769 --> 07:27.171 [SPEAKER_00]: They're dealing with some different challenges. 07:27.271 --> 07:29.112 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there were some similarities. 07:29.192 --> 07:33.995 [SPEAKER_00]: I could assume maybe some insecurities, some things, you know, kind of remain the same. 07:34.615 --> 07:39.799 [SPEAKER_00]: But how does that look like, I mean, how is that exacerbated, or maybe not, with social media? 07:39.879 --> 07:44.621 [SPEAKER_00]: How does that, how does the politics of our day, the polarization and the behavior? 07:45.662 --> 08:08.960 [SPEAKER_00]: right you know so so I thought we thought that when we were in the ideation state it might be great you know to hear from them you know what do they have to say you know because we have something to learn from them and that to me was really important I think that's one generational hubris that can happen is that the older generation often times I didn't think they have anything to learn from the younger and the younger so you know 08:10.141 --> 08:15.245 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to, we, we, we, we, we, we, we had to say, but I want to perpetuate that. 08:15.786 --> 08:22.711 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we didn't want to bar the table from the teens, who are the next generation coming up. 08:22.771 --> 08:25.273 [SPEAKER_01]: They are now, they are the generation now. 08:25.313 --> 08:26.954 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, now, now, now. 08:27.215 --> 08:28.776 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so anyway, so not now. 08:28.836 --> 08:30.998 [SPEAKER_00]: What's saddening me though, I'm just telling y'all now. 08:33.091 --> 08:38.617 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, twenty twenty five years. 08:39.038 --> 08:40.279 [SPEAKER_00]: I went to that airport. 08:40.980 --> 08:42.021 [SPEAKER_00]: I packed my bags. 08:42.502 --> 08:42.722 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 08:42.762 --> 08:43.523 [SPEAKER_00]: I was ready to go. 08:45.646 --> 08:49.730 [SPEAKER_00]: But we have an airline said otherwise. 08:49.890 --> 08:50.431 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 08:50.471 --> 08:51.492 [SPEAKER_00]: It says it turned around. 08:51.733 --> 08:52.574 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a 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09:17.766 --> 09:19.007 [SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing I could do. 09:19.027 --> 09:19.687 [SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing I could do. 09:19.747 --> 09:20.608 [SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing I could do. 09:21.048 --> 09:24.331 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's almost like, I don't know, elections matter. 09:24.571 --> 09:25.011 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 09:25.391 --> 09:26.712 [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird, but whatever. 09:28.033 --> 09:38.301 [SPEAKER_00]: So I, unfortunately, when watch this series, or listen to it, however you choose, is Christina flying solo beanie. 09:39.422 --> 09:41.063 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's facilitate it. 09:41.183 --> 09:42.484 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I will actually try. 09:42.665 --> 09:43.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I try. 09:43.805 --> 09:44.526 [SPEAKER_00]: What was it like? 09:46.167 --> 09:53.230 [SPEAKER_00]: talking to the teens about all of these subjects from mental health, to politics, to social media. 09:53.770 --> 09:54.891 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm missing a fourth. 09:55.031 --> 09:57.952 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, relationships. 09:58.332 --> 10:07.576 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I would say, and by the way, for to our listeners, you're right, a community's not on the stage, but she's definitely behind the scenes in terms of conceptualizing the content. 10:07.937 --> 10:12.879 [SPEAKER_01]: And before we went live in our recordings, we 10:13.439 --> 10:16.901 [SPEAKER_01]: had an opportunity to pray with the teens, connect, do some ice workers. 10:17.021 --> 10:19.123 [SPEAKER_01]: And so she was there, connecting. 10:19.183 --> 10:22.285 [SPEAKER_01]: So it definitely was a team day, a team day. 10:23.045 --> 10:28.528 [SPEAKER_01]: But Stephanie too, oh my gosh, there is, Stephanie was the glue, like there's no, you know. 10:29.329 --> 10:34.852 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we just shout out to youth ministers and that incredibly important vital work. 10:35.353 --> 10:36.874 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're working, thanks for listening in. 10:37.314 --> 10:38.615 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we 10:39.850 --> 10:55.094 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, so first I think we have to just bear in mind that when you're talking about topics like justice and relationships, social media and mental health, they are they're actually pretty heavy and weighted topics to process through and whether you grown folk, young adult adolescent, you name it. 10:55.634 --> 10:59.255 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was just really grateful for the willingness to participate. 10:59.315 --> 11:03.476 [SPEAKER_01]: So we had a really broad age range of young people like 11:03.756 --> 11:31.925 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean like adolescence like twelve all the way up to eighteen had some folks there about to go to college or one year out and so that just really made for some I think great conversations we were able to have two panel discussions on the topic of justice one that involved kind of younger age girls and one that evolved older age boys and and kind of the way they they think about justice and and the church and what they want to hear from the church and the strengths and weaknesses I found this group of young people to be 11:32.415 --> 11:50.792 [SPEAKER_01]: very thoughtful and as candid as appropriate for them to be, I mean, this was our first time connecting, I imagine if we as we continue to build kind of a teens at the table partnership that it that's the future for us, then I can imagine having more and more teens speaking and obviously, you know, I told you this, I 11:51.432 --> 11:54.413 [SPEAKER_01]: I envision a time where the teens do the facilitation as well. 11:54.453 --> 11:55.534 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, let me get out of here. 11:55.574 --> 11:56.734 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to sit, take a seat. 11:57.094 --> 11:59.395 [SPEAKER_00]: They're very courageous to talk to you. 11:59.975 --> 12:04.577 [SPEAKER_00]: They're very shy and they're not right. 12:04.977 --> 12:05.817 [SPEAKER_01]: Rightfully. 12:05.877 --> 12:13.240 [SPEAKER_01]: So Stephanie was great at working with identifying the students who wanted to share, giving them the questions and advance that they could really think through. 12:13.820 --> 12:14.680 [SPEAKER_01]: and pray through. 12:15.441 --> 12:18.142 [SPEAKER_01]: And we just had a really, really great conversation. 12:18.422 --> 12:20.562 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, I just find them so funny. 12:20.622 --> 12:23.823 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, the adolescent teenagers got, they got something to say. 12:23.843 --> 12:25.284 [SPEAKER_01]: They got jokes for you. 12:25.364 --> 12:29.145 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I absolutely enjoyed it on a personal level. 12:29.745 --> 12:38.088 [SPEAKER_01]: It reminded me a bit of teen summit shout out to, for those who know these teens, teen summit back when the condom was absent. 12:39.369 --> 12:40.429 [SPEAKER_01]: But I felt like that too. 12:40.489 --> 12:42.670 [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like a space where people could 12:43.757 --> 12:49.141 [SPEAKER_01]: We're feeling like, I said, people could really dive into topics that related to their experience. 12:49.181 --> 12:55.106 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, we were working with kids of color African-American kids, specifically, and hearing their story, their hearts. 12:55.386 --> 12:59.610 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's just a need to create that space for all of our youth. 13:00.090 --> 13:04.013 [SPEAKER_01]: But obviously, we have that population near and dear to our hearts. 13:05.514 --> 13:09.077 [SPEAKER_01]: And at the center of kind of the work that we do here at Truth's Table. 13:09.117 --> 13:09.958 [SPEAKER_01]: So hearing from 13:10.392 --> 13:14.509 [SPEAKER_01]: Black teenagers tell their story and what they thought about those really important topics. 13:15.200 --> 13:16.321 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and then you know what? 13:16.361 --> 13:18.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you talk about the gender mix? 13:19.163 --> 13:22.366 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not just the systems, the systems, the systems. 13:22.426 --> 13:23.967 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no. 13:24.107 --> 13:25.829 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the fellows were in the house. 13:25.869 --> 13:27.210 [SPEAKER_01]: The fellows were in the house. 13:27.250 --> 13:29.092 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you, they had something to say. 13:29.812 --> 13:31.153 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was really grateful. 13:31.213 --> 13:41.222 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think one of the, one of the standout moments for me is the panel discussion involving the older teen males talking about justice. 13:42.062 --> 14:02.972 [SPEAKER_01]: A very beautiful hearing one of those students recount attending their first protest and the experience why they decided to do it has they were standing in solidarity with friends and people who reminded them of of dear friends and why they felt like they needed to show up and also some of the the vitriol that they experienced as they participated 14:03.678 --> 14:10.641 [SPEAKER_01]: in their first protest and how they feel like that and their Christian calling, the way their faith shaped them to be in that space. 14:10.681 --> 14:13.123 [SPEAKER_01]: And so they're just some great highlights. 14:13.143 --> 14:24.248 [SPEAKER_01]: And then also to hear the much younger age perspective talk about how they have to care about because of Jesus, how they have to care about other people. 14:25.216 --> 14:28.679 [SPEAKER_01]: And what I thought was so interesting again, this is a yes. 14:29.180 --> 14:30.581 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this is a group. 14:30.781 --> 14:37.367 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, we can certainly talk about the experiences of people of African descent black Americans and injustice. 14:38.748 --> 14:44.013 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was compelling to hear them speak so much about their neighbor, outside of their own group. 14:44.033 --> 14:48.696 [SPEAKER_01]: There was this real, especially as it relates to undocumented people, immigration. 14:48.716 --> 14:51.619 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a thing that came up consistently. 14:51.679 --> 14:54.681 [SPEAKER_01]: This real sense of something is wrong with it. 14:54.781 --> 14:56.683 [SPEAKER_01]: And they want to take our friends up. 14:57.163 --> 15:00.306 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't just like, they wanted to say, yeah, over here. 15:00.686 --> 15:05.250 [SPEAKER_01]: There was a very close, like, emotional connection to like, that's my friend. 15:05.630 --> 15:07.172 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, why would you do that to my friend? 15:07.992 --> 15:18.020 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was just a really long reminder of our connection, our human bond, from one group to the other, even if it's not our exact story, we should be spending in solidarity. 15:18.080 --> 15:24.526 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just beautiful to hear kids talk about, and such, and such, it felt like a pure way. 15:25.066 --> 15:31.571 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think, I think, and obviously, and they also just say all the stuff, too, that just, that will, that will tickle you as well. 15:32.132 --> 15:33.473 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow. 15:34.073 --> 15:35.294 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's, no, I didn't, that's so, 15:36.748 --> 15:50.636 [SPEAKER_00]: powerful, you know, employing him because I mean, I'm not completely surprised by that because of the ways in which the Ice Ranger taking place in the ways in which this is really just, you know, it's so intrusive, right? 15:50.676 --> 15:58.300 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's impacting from the youngest to the oldest, the least to the left out, you know, and I love that they have compassion. 16:00.987 --> 16:03.569 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, yeah, I don't think there was any indifference. 16:04.049 --> 16:06.471 [SPEAKER_01]: There may have been a sense of like, I don't know what to do with that. 16:06.491 --> 16:08.852 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know how to work that out yet. 16:09.433 --> 16:15.737 [SPEAKER_01]: But when we think about what we're seeing amongst adults, you can see a deep apathy. 16:16.077 --> 16:27.605 [SPEAKER_01]: And what I found to be actually, you know, heartening and impositive was the sense of, even if I don't have the answer, I'm dialed into care. 16:28.506 --> 16:33.751 [SPEAKER_01]: And I have found that adults are functioning in just the opposite way because they cannot fix it. 16:33.951 --> 16:34.932 [SPEAKER_01]: They are apathetic. 16:35.892 --> 16:37.954 [SPEAKER_01]: They're they're they're responded. 16:38.074 --> 16:39.075 [SPEAKER_01]: They're cynical. 16:39.776 --> 16:47.783 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a, I don't know, permission to not know the answer, but to still care is what is one of the sentiments I felt in that conversation. 16:47.863 --> 16:56.390 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, yeah, I mean, and and also then they didn't say this, but it reminded me of like what it means to have child like faith that you actually don't have to figure it out. 16:56.975 --> 16:58.637 [SPEAKER_01]: But you lean in, right? 16:58.677 --> 17:01.501 [SPEAKER_01]: You still raise your hands to a loving God. 17:02.301 --> 17:07.608 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what the Lord invites us to, even if we can't figure this out, to still care, to still stand in solidarity. 17:10.748 --> 17:20.210 [SPEAKER_00]: Ten by ten is a movement committed to working together with churches, denominations, and Christian organizations to create a healthier Christian ecosystem where young people's faith can thrive. 17:20.570 --> 17:26.031 [SPEAKER_00]: Ten by ten focuses on providing the resources that faith communities need to prioritize youth discipleship. 17:26.251 --> 17:33.512 [SPEAKER_00]: By working collaboratively with over one hundred organizations, ten by ten aims to raise youth discipleship to a top priority for ministry leaders. 17:34.052 --> 17:40.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Visit one zero one zero dot org and follow at ten by ten collab on social media to learn more. 17:40.493 --> 17:44.415 [SPEAKER_00]: together, we can inspire and uplift the next generation in their faith journey. 17:46.456 --> 17:53.719 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, you know, I think it's a powerful corrective on another front with regard to adults, their own apathy, right? 17:54.419 --> 17:56.540 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's that sentiment out there like, well, 17:57.644 --> 17:58.244 [SPEAKER_00]: It's impacting them. 17:58.544 --> 17:59.165 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they voted for. 17:59.185 --> 18:22.154 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as we start getting into the day then as 18:22.454 --> 18:24.296 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the conversation. 18:24.316 --> 18:25.217 [SPEAKER_00]: That's another conversation. 18:25.257 --> 18:26.299 [SPEAKER_00]: That's another conversation. 18:26.339 --> 18:27.039 [SPEAKER_00]: That's another good. 18:27.079 --> 18:28.181 [SPEAKER_00]: That's their family business. 18:28.201 --> 18:28.881 [SPEAKER_00]: They got to work out. 18:28.961 --> 18:35.168 [SPEAKER_00]: But at some point, we got to understand that we are in a we belong to one another. 18:35.228 --> 18:36.850 [SPEAKER_00]: We are in a social contract. 18:36.890 --> 18:39.012 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that everybody didn't quite get that in November. 18:39.733 --> 18:47.200 [SPEAKER_00]: But what happened to everyone that eventually happened to us, you cannot think that that's something isolated and that's them over there. 18:47.220 --> 18:56.949 [SPEAKER_00]: And so anyway, I just love to hear that coming out, you know, how can I say showing up in their practice? 18:57.409 --> 19:02.434 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if they can't articulate it, just like that, they live it, right? 19:02.494 --> 19:03.655 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're showing that compassion. 19:03.735 --> 19:05.176 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that matters more than anything. 19:06.278 --> 19:11.386 [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing is I listen to what I realize now in retrospect is that they didn't actually sound afraid. 19:12.550 --> 19:14.451 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, they were concerned. 19:14.891 --> 19:29.098 [SPEAKER_01]: They were, and in, and obviously, it's several, several students, but I think the overall sentiment, because I think, honestly, when I listen to a delts talk, even like politically reminded a delts and folks that are just like, feel what the whole thing goes, I am definitely hearing some like, this is crazy. 19:29.498 --> 19:30.519 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we are for free. 19:31.439 --> 19:35.681 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not judging it or knocking it, I'm find myself in the numbers most days. 19:36.041 --> 19:37.182 [SPEAKER_01]: But, but I think, 19:37.842 --> 19:40.784 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think there was still this in maybe it's not even. 19:40.804 --> 19:42.485 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you want to call. 19:42.545 --> 19:43.926 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, I don't know. 19:43.986 --> 19:44.526 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 19:44.606 --> 19:47.008 [SPEAKER_01]: And it could be that like that's the only world they know. 19:47.048 --> 19:54.513 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I often remind people that my, you know, I have one of my kids only know Obama and Donald Trump. 19:55.097 --> 19:55.738 [SPEAKER_01]: as president. 19:55.878 --> 20:02.629 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and Biden, obviously, Biden's in there too, but that also feels like it feels like a blip and, you know, the COVID years and all that. 20:02.989 --> 20:10.201 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think about particularly my oldest who is just just older than the kids that we interviewed for teens at the table. 20:10.801 --> 20:16.362 [SPEAKER_01]: And how that is like her world, her first president that she remembers, is Barack Obama. 20:16.522 --> 20:24.524 [SPEAKER_01]: And then to go from two terms Barack Obama into what is now two terms of Donald Trump strikingly difference. 20:24.584 --> 20:26.345 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to up a political whatever it is. 20:26.405 --> 20:31.566 [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who says it's a nice day, personality, family history. 20:33.428 --> 20:37.412 [SPEAKER_01]: whatever, and I know people have issues and critiques of all the dynamics. 20:37.452 --> 20:39.635 [SPEAKER_01]: They are just absolutely different people. 20:40.896 --> 20:45.402 [SPEAKER_01]: But that feels like, so all that to say is that I think if that's been your world, 20:46.343 --> 20:53.909 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you know the roller coaster like you know the whiplash of that like the roller coaster ride up, but you're like, wow, like that was a serious pendulum swing. 20:54.710 --> 20:55.010 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 20:55.250 --> 20:55.751 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 20:56.171 --> 21:03.677 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know, I just think that their generation is just you know, every generation has had these significant experiences that shapes them that you know, they've experienced COVID. 21:05.520 --> 21:09.543 [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously we did too, but they just experienced it at a developmental time. 21:09.563 --> 21:10.784 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're grown. 21:11.165 --> 21:13.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like a hundred percent. 21:14.307 --> 21:18.511 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I, yeah, I felt like the COVID babies are going to kindergarten. 21:18.551 --> 21:18.771 [SPEAKER_01]: My niece. 21:18.791 --> 21:19.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they are. 21:19.231 --> 21:20.132 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they are. 21:20.152 --> 21:20.432 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:20.452 --> 21:20.793 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:20.813 --> 21:21.133 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:21.153 --> 21:21.473 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:21.493 --> 21:21.753 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:21.773 --> 21:22.054 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:22.074 --> 21:22.414 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:22.794 --> 21:23.074 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:23.094 --> 21:23.615 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:23.635 --> 21:24.055 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:24.075 --> 21:24.436 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:24.496 --> 21:24.876 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:24.896 --> 21:25.136 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:25.196 --> 21:25.677 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:25.937 --> 21:26.297 [SPEAKER_00]: They listen. 21:26.317 --> 21:26.597 [SPEAKER_00]: They listen. 21:26.617 --> 21:26.878 [SPEAKER_00]: They listen. 21:26.898 --> 21:27.458 [SPEAKER_00]: They listen. 21:27.478 --> 21:28.539 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:28.559 --> 21:28.799 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:28.819 --> 21:29.199 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:29.219 --> 21:29.980 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:30.000 --> 21:30.360 [SPEAKER_01]: They listen. 21:32.602 --> 21:37.626 [SPEAKER_01]: That stays out to me now as we're reflecting is that like they, they were not afraid. 21:37.726 --> 21:40.868 [SPEAKER_01]: They were, they were concerned and they had judgments. 21:40.948 --> 21:43.690 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's nothing like the teenage judgment. 21:43.830 --> 21:47.112 [SPEAKER_01]: Like teenagers have PhDs in judgment. 21:47.312 --> 21:51.735 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're like, hey, they do a mess. 21:52.576 --> 21:54.137 [SPEAKER_01]: They have PhDs in judgment. 21:54.177 --> 21:55.898 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt about that. 21:56.499 --> 22:01.402 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was, and then obviously one of the other ones is a clinician was set out to me as our conversation around mental health. 22:03.528 --> 22:11.053 [SPEAKER_01]: And I appreciate the transparency, the vulnerability, and just, yeah, and just, 22:12.434 --> 22:16.815 [SPEAKER_01]: the decision to share what these individuals decided to share. 22:17.055 --> 22:25.378 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, we were mindful of their voices and protective of them in appropriate ways when you're working with teenagers. 22:26.038 --> 22:33.120 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was, and then we didn't have a young man for the social media panel who is not on social media at all. 22:33.140 --> 22:33.721 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 22:33.741 --> 22:34.781 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 22:34.801 --> 22:35.221 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 22:35.381 --> 22:37.902 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you actually have a flip phone? 22:39.516 --> 22:41.098 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he had a flip on person. 22:41.138 --> 22:47.928 [SPEAKER_00]: That is happening where they're trending more, you know, to where I went through all that, which I'm like, I was with the, I know. 22:48.328 --> 22:50.632 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I got to tell you he was, uh, 22:51.719 --> 22:55.562 [SPEAKER_01]: a deeply thoughtful communicator and like, very, very settled. 22:56.202 --> 22:59.464 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, this is a commercial for like, get off the social media. 22:59.484 --> 23:04.908 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just, and he talked about his reasons why how he believes that it shapes and I didn't want to participate in that. 23:04.948 --> 23:20.738 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was great to have to hear that voice on a panel with the other kids talking about how they engage social media and the way that their Christian ethics, that's my words, but the way that like Jesus shows up and how they think and how they think they should show up online. 23:21.158 --> 23:24.542 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's going to be a cool conversation to listen and on as well. 23:25.223 --> 23:34.474 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, you know, as you were just saying that about how the young man said, you know, the ways in which social media like mistakes or shapes shapes or mistakes. 23:34.954 --> 23:35.515 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 23:35.575 --> 23:37.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I know how to back the action went to dating apps. 23:38.818 --> 23:41.401 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, we've talked about that. 23:42.602 --> 23:43.323 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 23:43.984 --> 23:48.408 [SPEAKER_00]: And we have, we, the us as me and you. 23:49.609 --> 23:59.420 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'm thinking about the ways in which that, that also, you know, miss shapes and I've been thinking about what just beyond just. 24:00.378 --> 24:01.339 [SPEAKER_00]: it is exhausting. 24:02.479 --> 24:06.641 [SPEAKER_00]: But just like, I'm like, I just don't really want to invest so much time in that anymore. 24:06.701 --> 24:09.042 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know that it's, I don't think it's the hell. 24:09.082 --> 24:11.423 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, praise God for people that do meet people now. 24:11.463 --> 24:12.064 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know. 24:12.084 --> 24:12.824 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just not, I don't know. 24:12.844 --> 24:14.765 [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I think that's gotta be another word. 24:14.805 --> 24:25.030 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 24:25.550 --> 24:26.671 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a winner today. 24:27.031 --> 24:37.578 [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, well, you and so many other of our just just holios feel just wonderful single black sisters who love the Lord and are just like, hey, can I just get my boo. 24:38.178 --> 24:44.222 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that is a way that I think that online dating the apps have just done some misshaping. 24:45.102 --> 24:49.204 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, and you know, we always talk about, like, people return to the nineties. 24:49.244 --> 24:54.685 [SPEAKER_01]: Return to the nineties, the nineties dating or whatever, where people actually go out places and they learn how to approach people. 24:55.486 --> 25:03.849 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that actually is helping people to bring out their best best self is when you actually have to look someone in the eye. 25:04.449 --> 25:10.091 [SPEAKER_01]: And because they call me them and hold a conversation versus this kind of weird stuff happening in the chat, you know. 25:11.413 --> 25:15.440 [SPEAKER_01]: So, a hundred percent, social skills have to be like developed and exercise. 25:15.500 --> 25:23.053 [SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder, for sure, what extent those dating apps or social media is really diminishing our ability to actually feel accountable. 25:23.505 --> 25:24.985 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a two way street, right? 25:25.005 --> 25:42.790 [SPEAKER_00]: So even now, I've been thinking, oh, man, I have to be, I mean, I'm curious about the more strategic, you know, about that and like more like, you know, just more engaging, more conscious of it in that, you know, when I'm out, you know, just being a little bit more, you know, I'm not going to have hazard, you know, to be obsessive about it. 25:44.646 --> 25:49.148 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're not going to be out there then okay, you know, then you know, be intentional. 25:49.628 --> 25:52.309 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a bit different. 25:52.369 --> 25:53.669 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a different world now. 25:53.709 --> 25:54.769 [SPEAKER_00]: Just so. 25:54.789 --> 25:58.731 [SPEAKER_00]: That's even worthy of an episode on another topic to talk about some of our friends who are who are anti-dating and with dating. 26:06.003 --> 26:07.723 [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be fun to interview them. 26:08.224 --> 26:10.464 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we know folks. 26:11.284 --> 26:11.724 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true. 26:12.725 --> 26:16.626 [SPEAKER_01]: And what this social calendar looks like, my gosh, they out in the bow. 26:16.646 --> 26:19.726 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what that happened, right? 26:19.746 --> 26:25.588 [SPEAKER_01]: But but I just really enjoyed listening to these teens and what they were willing to share and made us 26:26.248 --> 26:32.014 [SPEAKER_01]: as a team here at Truth's Table, eager to want to partner more with that population and to just give them the mics. 26:32.094 --> 26:38.240 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we get on these mics because we are trying to point people to Jesus, we're trying to tell the truth, so they need to stay sane. 26:39.161 --> 26:42.765 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're trying to have meaningful conversation, but they're not mics that we think that we hog. 26:44.262 --> 26:49.686 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we love extending platform to people because we're grateful for the one that we have. 26:49.766 --> 26:56.491 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a great opportunity to extend platform and I and I think they thought it was cool like this idea of being like great. 26:56.991 --> 27:05.217 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, um, so I don't know how cool we are to the average fifty year old, but they treated me as if I was cool that day. 27:06.398 --> 27:19.891 [SPEAKER_00]: great okay good I am looking forward and I'm sure that our audience is looking forward to this new season or I'm sorry series now this is my bad season number seventy five yeah 27:21.533 --> 27:23.035 [SPEAKER_00]: singing at the table. 27:23.095 --> 27:30.723 [SPEAKER_00]: So y'all make sure you let us know your thoughts and all the things as this series unfolded. 27:30.863 --> 27:37.010 [SPEAKER_00]: If a mini series were because of that it's a mini series and since we were already I guess 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