[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome into another edition of the future socks round up.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are back.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are here with a really fun episode today.
[SPEAKER_02]: All things considered from topic to the time of the year to the fact that it's all three of us today.
[SPEAKER_02]: My name's Elijah Evans.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm joined by my co-hosts both at once Jeff Cohen and Dylan Barnas.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be cool for us to get to do a little bit of a three person here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be testing this out going forward a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're going to have Jeff bounce back and forth hold between James and Ian and Dylan and myself and do some cool
[SPEAKER_02]: three person stuff here where Jeff gets to kind of just showcase what he's been seeing down in Carolina.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get to have a different dynamic.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get to ask each other questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have fun with him for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So first of all, before we get into some news, some headlines, some July top performers, how are you both doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been fun, especially with the announcement of the J.B.
[SPEAKER_01]: merger partnership.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what we're calling it, but it's been really fun recently, especially with the White Sox winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just a heck of a fun time of year, you know, you go from the draft to the trade deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're seeing guys coming out to the affiliates this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a lot of exciting things going on in the minor leagues and some strong performances.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a fun time from the draft to the deadline last week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously a little bit of a quiet deadline, but still always a fun time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now we've got, you know, some cool news to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For today, we got a lot to go through.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to fly through it here, hopefully keep it to about an hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm traveling right now in all of the places.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Jeff and Dylan have built on some, some moving around, having various things going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to just catch up on all of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to start with the big league.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk through some big leagueers.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to hit a couple trade guys that we haven't talked about too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to get into some kind of projecting towards twenty six and finish it out with the top performers of July.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with with the guy with the man of the last two weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did either of you in any universe, see a world where Colson Montgomery would have seven home runs in, since the All Star Break, and look not just look like, okay, the last, I think all of us have been patiently optimistic with Colson compared to the average white soccer fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the three of us watching very closely.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we've always had the stance of like, let's give him time, let's let the swing develop, see what happens after Arizona with Ryan Fuller, like, what will give it that time?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did either you see any universe starting with the UJF, where Colson would do this?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what we're seeing now is what everyone has expected a year or more ago, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we thought this great prospect, he's going to tear it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then, I don't think, I think everyone's better all back their expectations and said, maybe they'll be just a pair overly average after what we saw this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't know how to explain it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's exciting.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's phenomenal, but I really don't know how to explain it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious what you guys what your take is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's just sort of like he is developing in the big leagues like we didn't see a lot of positive signs in his Charlotte spent you know there were
[SPEAKER_01]: flashes of two week three week stints where you know he would look like that top prospect but he for the most part didn't look the part of that elite blue chip guy while he was in Charlotte and you know now we're seeing him to look like that blue chip guy I mean Elijah you mentioned seven Homer since he all started break the funny thing with Colson is you know how many walks he has since he all started break in just so just under sixty plate appearances guess how many walks
[SPEAKER_02]: sixty-point appearances.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exact opposite zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's I was gonna say I thought it was a few but that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got an identical two-fifty nine-pointing average and on-base.
[SPEAKER_01]: A six-fifty five-slugging to put his OPS at a nine-fourteen OPS.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sensei all-star break.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a twenty-two-point-five barrel rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sensei all-star break.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just nuts.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like when you hit the ball as hard as close to my company can and has been hitting like
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's unreal stuff from a short stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's been playing a little bit more third recently.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now that my draw this injured, he's been shifting to short, but like he's been playing far better than I expected from him right away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's fascinating stuff, honestly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I mean, it's funny because he's leaning almost into this like Homer kind of power type archetype, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is interesting because that's never who we thought he was going to be when he was coming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like he has the power to go all over the field and go out of this field all over the bark.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like he's allowing himself to go a little bit more up the middle compared to where he was doing last year in the minors, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's still pulling a lot for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's tapping into that power man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, at this point with the way the development has gone, I would be completely content with Colson being more of a lean into the power guy, especially given the structure of this lineup.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm not opposed to having Colson be a guy that can hit twenty five homers.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, the strike I might be a little high.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, the on-base percentage might be a little lower than the originally thought from Colson.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if he can be that thumper as a short stop or a third basement, when you look at the archetypes and the rest of this lineup going forward, I'm honestly okay with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like because when you when you have the type of power that calls him a Montgomery has like I don't want to call him like a Joey Gallaud type player where you know, he's at three to out comes type of guy because right in my opinion Montgomery is a better just pure hitter than that like yeah, he sells out to the pole side at times but like if he can hit you a thirty homers a year I think that's that's that's gravy especially coming from a short stop position third base like I will more than take that
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, especially as we looked at twenty, twenty, six and beyond, where's the power on the team coming from?
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got to get the bad on the hall, but there's going to be a bit of a shortage of power.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that's something they're going to need to address in the offices and so regardless, but Cole's in leading into that a little bit is not a bad thing in my opinion, honestly, when you look at how his progression's gone, and you know, again, remember, this is a twenty-three-year-old was doing this the big league level right now, and I'm not saying it's going to be this level.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's really exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really exciting to look at him with the rest of these young guys that have come up to season and say, okay, yeah, he might not be the top twenty prospect in baseball that he looked at.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was kind of looked at as the end of two seasons ago, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But if this guy's in quality big league contributor, that's another guy you pencil in.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're penciling in one guy every month, the season that comes up and looks like a big league piece,
[SPEAKER_01]: you're pennsylling in a roster slowly and they're not there yet but you can see a lot of things when you look up and down this roster and what's been happening over the past year that you that you know that there's a core coming together here yeah because what I'll let you know no no no no thank you but yet like you said if you can continue just having hot months like it's not even like a hot two weeks there are hot like six games it's these guys are putting up month-long performances you know we saw
[SPEAKER_01]: Miguel Vargas after his wing change in late April, he tore it up in May and then got adjusted to a June.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now he looks like he's finally back to where he was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Chase Maidra at the beginning of the year, he was betting above three hundred until like I want to say early May.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, if you can just have these guys just prove that like, all right, we're gonna, we're actual big leaders like we're gonna adjust to the pitching at the big league level and
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, just back once the big league pitchers adjusted how they initially came on to the scene like that's that's all you can ask for from the young guys this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's exactly right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So getting into that, we've got a couple more guys at the big level to talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we keep going to kind of the next, you know, the next tier of these guys, Kyle Tirol and your caro.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, I just keep preaching this and like, why are they not playing everyday?
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you got the need so slow as an eight hundred, eight fifty OPS in the past month.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's hard to find that time right now, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm hoping that with Vargas out as much as you don't want Vargas out, that'll allow for a handful of more days with Teal and Caro.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you look at this platoon right now,
[SPEAKER_02]: If this is your catching platoon, in the past month, each guy has played exactly a fourteen game.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it is a true platoon at this point, which I still don't love.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you look at this past month, fourteen games a piece, Edgar Caro with a three, eight, three, fifty, one, five, thirty, eight, slash line that's an eight, eighty, nine, OPS.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle Taylor with a set that a two, ninety, seven, three, fifty, four, four, forty, four, that's a seven, ninety, six OPS.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're essentially averaging an eight, fifty at the eight, fifty OPS now in the past month, through your catching tandem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you play them more, that's gonna come down marginally to probably more of a seven, five, eight hundred mark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Both of these guys are big league hitters guys like they they are big league bats and they're big league catchers and I really do believe you gotta find a way going to next year to get both them in the lineup It doesn't need to be seven days a week five days a week as opposed to three and a half each right give me five days a week of these guys together Jeff you think like is there a change here with the way they're being used or is it just going to keep being like this do think either both you guys well
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious how you guys see that how they you see these expanded roles.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does it just catching D.H.
[SPEAKER_00]: or do you see one of them going to left field or first base?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how do you get that the five days a week from both of them?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that like the best the best role in my opinion for both of them is just swapping catcher and DH.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, you know, you're going to want to get my talk manager Andrew Benentendi off their feet here on there, which I say issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you can if you can give one of them like a rest day every week and have Benentendi talk man whoever side in a DH that day that they're resting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Simon up for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Elijah, you mentioned in the past month that eight fifty OPS mark
[SPEAKER_01]: Since the All Star Break, Edgar Carroll has an eight, eighty, OPS and Kyle Teele has a nine, twenty, six.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just handful of games, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's been great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing I want to note with Carroll is on the season, like since he debuted, he's got a ninety point four zone contact rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: How many catchers, like primary catchers, do you guys think have a higher zone contact rate?
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I think zero because Rolly Wefts a ton bald one riffs too much contrarisizing down near maybe one Maybe like it's maybe a will Smith.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's well the one guy I can think of It's two and then you know, it's two Wow, I didn't name so it's gotta be some guys that aren't good though.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's keeper.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's use an Adley run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we're weas I should have said I should have said her weas cause weas hits it makes contact on everything But it doesn't go anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm taking care of over that I wouldn't take you know, they take down and in contact over a guy who I mean that's
[SPEAKER_02]: And weirdly enough, you know, Arm late and there was the head of just baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: His comp for Carol when he was coming up that he told me it was a cure cure for Louise plus.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was what he always used to tell me.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, this is a better keeper Louise.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it's always his comp for Carol in twenty twenty three when sex traded for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, you know, if a cure where Louise is a okay catcher, if Carol's the upgraded version of that, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So my thing is I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's best suited to be catching in the age.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to see the idea of Kyle Taylor first base a little because I think that he could play there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has the athleticism to play there for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or Kyle Teele in a corner to spell a Ben and Tendi or a token if they come to the D.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think you can play around with Teele a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do the whole like let's make him an outfield.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, no, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's not do that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They should be the catching tandem.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if the way to get them in the lineup five days a week is for Teal to get two games a week at either first base or left field, I'm open to that because at this point, you're probably running out and outfield of Ben and Tendi, Robert, and Topman next year, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a veteran outfield to compliment a very young infield and a very young pitching staff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if that's your outfield, you need to be able to spell, talcmin, and, you know, and Benny before Brayden Montgomery's arrival, which will then push those guys either off the team or into the de-aging times, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: If there's, if the easiest way to maximize your lineup is to try Teele in a corner two days a week potentially, I'm very open to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's Teele at first base a couple days a week in the given day where Vargas is at third and Colson's at short, that's also something I would consider.
[SPEAKER_02]: The answer to the question to the chat, I do think Teele got a little bit of reps at first base in terms of pre-like work, but I don't think he ever got to the point of playing there in games.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the difference there.
[SPEAKER_02]: These guys are just like, I just love watching both of these guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly guys, I think these two are just so fun to watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're good energy, they're good catchers, they're good, it seems by all the chords that they're good to work with for the pitching staff, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want that in my lineup a little more than three days and half the games each on each of their side, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a good problem, a hundred percent a good problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, speaking of the last guy at the Big League level who we have like, where's the innings?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to be patient, it's been two days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Curtis Mead has been on the roster for three games now and he hasn't played.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, like, I get it and sort of because you have my draw through have pulls and you have Vargas, you have so-so he's playing really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just traded for a guy who has been ridiculously good in the past handful, stretch of time at the AAA level.
[SPEAKER_02]: play the guy you got to figure out if he's going to be a piece of this line up every day coming next year and you got to do it sooner than later.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dylan, where do you or do you slide to meet into this line up and how do you do it in your opinion?
[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, I think that his best fit is at second base and then you know you have Vargas at first chase my rough at short and then cool some Montgomery at third because I think
[SPEAKER_01]: That's sort of like the infield that can it just makes the most sense in my mind and needs bad probably profile a little bit better at second base.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could maybe slide into a third or a first depending on the day, but you know, it's a first a tile.
[SPEAKER_01]: infielder and you know the white socks have now four of them in in their infield they can play multiple positions multiple positions on the dirt.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing with me is like you didn't get anything for Joshua.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to get anything for Joshua.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cud Bay, get rid of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: What does he do that Curtis Mead can't do?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not going to develop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's already what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like over thirty, Mead has like less than a hundred big league games under his belt.
[SPEAKER_01]: He should be the everyday infielder.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can put him pretty much anywhere you want and he's going to be fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Roa should be off the team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's kind of what you have to do at that point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for you out with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm curious as, you know, part of this conversation is looking to twenty twenty six, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm curious when you look to twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think is the best defensive short stop?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's the best defensive second baseman?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's tough.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also worth putting all these league average defenders out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's tricky.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the
[SPEAKER_02]: The answer that people might not want to hear, but I do probably believe is that the next time the white socks win the world series, the shortstop will not be someone on this roster right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of like the next time the white socks are legitimately at that level as a team won't be someone that's on this roster.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where I stand because I do think that in three to four years on this team is at that point when that time comes potentially
[SPEAKER_02]: I see it as if it's Billy Carlson, awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's Caleb Bonumer, awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's a free agent, awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's Rock Chalousky, even next year's draft, even better, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of how I view the position.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think it is, I don't want to call it a stopgap, because that's not fair to call some Montgomery and Chase Mideroth, because both of them have shown the ability to handle shortstop, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not that these guys can play, they can play shortstop, and they can play at a decent level.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is Colson's body a little better for third?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is my draft's arm a little better for second?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and yes, in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but where are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with like the shortstop of the the world series winning light socks is not here yet and like you said that Colson's profile is probably better suited for third base, but like he has been a pretty solid shortstop defender so far like it's been limited in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but like
[SPEAKER_01]: He's impressed me so far with how we've looked.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Ian has been putting out videos for the past year and a half now where, you know, he's showing the world that he can stick at shortstop and, you know, I, I like, yes, I watched the videos, but there was a certain part of me that was like, all right, we'll see how he, see how he plays in the big leagues first, but like, he's looked great at shortstop so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I could see him sticking at short, but I could very easily see him sliding to third and becoming just that.
[SPEAKER_01]: big power bet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually have a question for you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: If Colson Montgomery ended up being Max Muncie, would you take that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, power over
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a true just I think that's the player that I think Elijah described earlier when talking about and maybe not quite I hope it's a little less of a drastic version like yeah, I mean if you do it honestly then where I if Colston's why I just pulled up Max Muncie's finger if Colston's walking at a sixteen percent clip and hitting thirty bomb thirty five bombs a year sign me up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've yes, yes is the answer Max Muncie may be not right now sure to like Max Muncie's if you look at Max Muncie's peak being from when he was twenty seven years old at twenty twenty eighteen
[SPEAKER_02]: through his age, thirty two season in twenty twenty three.
[SPEAKER_02]: In those not taking COVID moving COVID aside from that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So five seasons in his prime.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was thirty five homers in four of those five seasons with a walk rate of fifteen percent in a strike out right around twenty four.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm taking that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's another thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a WRC plus those seasons WRC plus wise.
[SPEAKER_02]: One sixty two one thirty three one thirty nine one oh seven in the down year one eighteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would take that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would take it, especially because I think Colson will be a much better defender at third than months ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the other factor you consider.
[SPEAKER_02]: If Colson ends up at third, I think it's not just a decent third baseman, it's a plus third baseman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dodger's maximum needs to be clear.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is two maximumsies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to clear it on that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the plan right now should still be Colson Montgomery playing more shortstop than not come next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think because I do think there's a better chance of him being the guy there long term than my drawth.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, I do I see a world where the real competing team of this roster has Colson at third my drawth at second or somebody else at second potentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then a TBD at short stop, that's probably how I see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the short term, with Miguel Vargas out, I would like to, I think you're gonna see a lot more of the so-so-first Colson third, my drawth short, hopefully Curtis me in second, even though Joshua has his playing again tonight, that's kind of how I see it for at least a short term right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, remember, for so long, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Last year and even the year before, we're second base to see what this black hole of the mailbox could never fill.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like, I don't never figure this out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then magical for half a season.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you've got me possibly there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And several guys that we're going to talk about in the minor leagues who look like your second base.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a good problem to have again, like the infield is crowded.
[SPEAKER_02]: The White Talks haven't been crowded in a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take it crowded and feel over a lack of talent in the infield.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is definitely something I'm okay with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brief mention of kind of the three names we haven't touched on.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about Curtis Meade quiet deadline for the White Talks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know this, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But Duncan David then people's gauge zeal.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had three arms, two being from the raise organization, one being from the Yankees.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, at tonight as we speak, uh, really nice little little start to the, the, no, night's run, run here for, uh, for David here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Duncan, David, there are six and third tonight of three hit two run ball down in Charlotte.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ben, people just had a rough couple outings here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this today was a little bit of rough one for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't get to watch any of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were about to record.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but, you know, just three guys in the gauge seal is in, uh, is in Winston, right, Dylan?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's in Winston there now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So three more guys just keep an eye on Zeal is going to be on our top thirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I know that's a guy who will be on our top thirty was because he's been a pretty dependable starter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, only twenty years old has already pitched to the double level this season and you know through eighty six and two third gennings as a four, a little bit over four year a very good command.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like more of a back end guy, but generally a plus command guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dylan, what else you got on these pictures?
[SPEAKER_01]: The name that I want to highlight from those three is Ben Peoples.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, it hasn't been a great like last couple outings, but like if you look at his pitch metrics and his his fastball and slider combo is very similar to and I know this is going to make some people mad, but it's very similar to Jordan leisure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when he's on, when leisure is on, he is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw, I'm sick of the leisure slander man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sick of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when we saw him in LA this last series, when he's on, he is electric.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people is very similar.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a highvert fastball.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming in at around ninety seven ninety eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then a slider that's getting good movement.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in the upper eighties.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a change up there that isn't like the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's
[SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't been thrown much, so I'm interested to see if Brian Bannister gets in the lab and adds a change up form, maybe a splitter who knows.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, if you can add that to the White Sox bullpen, I think he could be a very good, like, set up seven, seven-day dinning man, because those type of pitchers, like the hard fastball
[SPEAKER_01]: good hard slider combo.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're best used at the back of the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a very big Ben people's fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see him being up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shortly after, I was like this year, but I could see him being up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could see him being up for bullpen years.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just let us perfectly into our next segment because the next thing we're going to talk on is guys that we, you know, we see this year and what they've done, people's obviously just joining the organization is one example, but there's a lot of guys that have taken their game, not necessarily guys, we were, are you high on our guys that have elevated their stock, both those archetypes, but really the category here is guys that have shown that they need a role in this team in twenty twenty as soon as twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: whether it's been from a huge development standpoint, whether it's just been they, they just haven't got their shot yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: The guys that we, you know, really want to, you know, dive into and for people, you know, in the chat, and we got some new people that we love, and the guys we know here, we are talking prospects for sure tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking nothing but prospects for the rest of this episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: And starting with these guys that are kind of, you know, putting themselves on the map for twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that has to start with the guy in Sanman to Nachy, who we're going to hopefully have on a pod here soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm setting up an interview with him in the coming weeks because it's just been ridiculous from him.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is, oh, so speaking of crowded infield, how do you find a way to get Sam Antanachi into this roster outlook, everything?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's playing third, he's playing second.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just talked about six guys that can play those two positions at the big league level.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody floated to me the other day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last week when I posted a stat on him, Ken Antanachi play a corner in the outfield.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it got me thinking,
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of can see it's not actually being a really solid left fielder left field kind of feels like where his speed decent arm and athleticism could actually play out pretty well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a, I mean, maybe I'm getting ahead of myself a little here.
[SPEAKER_02]: A deadline, Ben and Tendi trade that could lead to an antonacci and left field.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's just a weird potential idea for a year from now.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think is it's kind of the antonacci route here to playing time if he keeps up what he's doing and Birmingham right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's an interesting question.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just where is his home because his bat is forcing him into the conversation, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, does he have a home other than second base and maybe third base?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, every time I watched him play, it was watching him at second base.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I never really gave him any considerationist thinking, does he have the armor foot speed for third base or the outfit?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still not sure to be honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Second base is obviously the best position for him, but you know, like we said, my profit is six guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows who else is there?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys think he could, what do you think about third base as well as the quarter
[SPEAKER_01]: I think third is probably where I'd go right now because in my opinion, he's like, he's a, I don't want to say a better defender than Chase Myderoth, but his arm, his arm is better.
[SPEAKER_01]: The primary thing that you need for third base, but I'm not going to rule him out as being the second basement.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he for all we know could like Chase Myderoth could fall off a cliff.
[SPEAKER_01]: at not literally like stats wise he could he could tank and like same antonachi could end up being the everyday second baseman for the twenty twenty six white socks so like we don't know like my broth has been in in a slump in the past like sixish weeks yes but i'm not ruling antonachi but i'm not ruling my broth out but i think that his fastest track to the majors is probably that left field roll
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially if there's an offseason Andrew Ben and Teddy trade a deadline Andrew Ben and Teddy trade.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of different ways that you can mix Saman Tanachi into the current white soccer roster.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that third base left field role is probably the quickest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what you guys think.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's messy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is going to be messy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's again, a good problem that you've got a variety of high floor infillers that are going to fill out this roster and that you can see where it goes from there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, if same mind to answer your chase, myderoth is a platoon slash bench guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great piece to have on your bench.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's what the Adrian just said in our chat, our Adrian and future stocks.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, left hand to back could be a good platoon for myderoth eventually.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
[SPEAKER_02]: If that's the, like, yes, the ideal situation is both these guys pan out and they're both, you know, every player is somehow, and they end up being really solid pieces.
[SPEAKER_02]: If the lower outcome of both their potentials is a platoon at second base, like, and you've got players that are starters at short and third, that have earned those spots.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if that's what it is, and then the white socks add another piece, if they go out and sign a big free agent at a corner, and then it becomes Vargas at the other corner, whichever guy they sign at the other corner,
[SPEAKER_02]: Colson, it's short and anti-naudgy in my drought splitting time at second.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a great lineup, depending on who the average agent potentially is, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's exciting stuff and that's why it's going to be interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's the one guy in terms of hitters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jacobins' olives could be another one we mentioned there, the guy in who is going to get a shot at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I think Jacobins' olives can truly earn a lineup spot over a mid-roth and anti-naudgy?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really see it, I'm not sure yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, as at a better season in the last year and I think at the least could be playing a bench wall on this team next year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's he's been surprising with the with the torpedo bad, you know, we don't I Elijah was sort of in the the boat if like yeah torpedo bats just a fad, you know, it's gonna go out of style soon, but you know, it's it's genuinely like I don't want to say change Gonzalo's game, but like he's look better than he ever has in the white sex organization while using the torpedo bat and yeah, he went through a rough June and a little bit into July, but like
[SPEAKER_01]: he earned a promotion to AAA and like that's not it's not like oh we're just gonna pump you up because there's no room for you in Birmingham or Winston like you like if you want to keep playing you have to go to Charlotte but like he genuinely earned it and you know he's like
[SPEAKER_01]: That Charlotte run environment is exactly what I think Gonzalez needed because the one knock on his games so far has been where the power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he was showing like that thirty home run, I don't know if it's a thirty home run, but like that twenty to thirty home run upside in college, I'll miss.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he transitioned into wood bats and it all went away.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if he can just get in that power stroke in Charlotte and just continue to lift balls, I think that he could earn a promotion.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, maybe it's the end of the year, maybe it's the start of twenty six.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure, but I think that I would, I would like to see him at least get a chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not expecting anything from him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've tempered my expectations on him from where I was when he got drafted and even even into the beginning parts of last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, he's been, he's been solid.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, at the end of the year, if Jacob begins all is, is that twenty-eighth man on the roster, it would not shock me at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, as I'm listening to you, Dylan, this has been a really fun year in Charlotte because you've had all these guys come all these prospects come through and now, you know, we're getting a little bit of, you know, a lot of these new pitchers, a lot of good pitching prospects.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking about twenty twenty twenty six not only in Chicago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look what you might have going on in Charlotte.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think Adrian and the chat mentioned Billion for Goia you mentioned.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can Gonzales and the sheet of will probably be here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Braden.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she's here.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's an anthology.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it could really be exciting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's got plenty of shuttle up and back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep it as going here because I want to keep in these things.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys want to go rotation next.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to go bullpen when we're talking about some of these guys that are kind of putting themselves on twenty six and what that outlook looks like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think rotation, because that's the fun part.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll start in the major league level and then we'll work our way down because obviously we're going to talk about Tanner McDougall.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of one of the guys that's the clear boom, boom, boom, this guy's on the radar now from this season, at least.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at Christian Opera as more of a twenty seven and beyond type of situation, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you're looking at next year, that's the one guy who stands out as the breakout.
[SPEAKER_02]: Looking at the white socks roster as it stands.
[SPEAKER_02]: I put out a staff the other day I just I still I people are really not like super high on him compared to the beginning of the year
[SPEAKER_02]: I really believe Sean Burke is figuring it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's taking some time.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're seeing the ups and downs and like the stats don't really do it justice.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Burke has essentially had one bad start a month since the first month of the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a really rough April and since April it's basically been one game a month where he can't find the location and four games a month where he looks gross.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it really has been that and it's been that the command is still a long ways away when you look at the increase of just the stuff that the pure raw stuff
[SPEAKER_02]: In, you know, five of his last six starts taking up the one blowup, have been five plus strikeouts, have been, you know, six or less hits a loud.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot to like there.
[SPEAKER_02]: This last start, this past weekend's the angels, through five innings, his stuff was as good as we've seen it since his big, like debut probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the sixth inning, it blows up.
[SPEAKER_02]: He loses the field.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives up a few runs.
[SPEAKER_02]: He inherits the, you know, the reliever inherits a run that comes in, that's whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives up three runs in the sixth inning before getting pulled.
[SPEAKER_02]: So be it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's in that rotation still.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chainsmith, I think we saw, I'm coming off this injury like once he gets a, you know, the arm is taxed.
[SPEAKER_02]: The most he's ever thrown, I think you're still penciling him into that rotation when he gets a full off season to really build up, to get his arm right, to have that kind of strength.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think those are two guys you're penciling in.
[SPEAKER_02]: I still think Jonathan Cannon at least to open the year is penciled in that rotation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he sticks long term when you get a lot of these guys coming up, but I do think Cannon has shown enough to believe that he's a rotation guy at least starting the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Davis Martin's interesting one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Davis Martin would have been, you know, the perfect trade candidate at this deadline, but no starting pitchers in all of baseball moved pretty much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good starting pitchers, which was a weird little market trend at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Davis Martin is under contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether you move from the offseason or not, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, if he's on the roster though, those are four guys that they're probably in your rotation no bit here.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they trade one, if it's a Martin or maybe a Canon maybe or something like that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Then you have three guys penciled in.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you stack out with the rest of this rotation?
[SPEAKER_02]: When you think about the fact that if Noah Schultz is healthy, a tender McDougall is going to be ready for a big motion probably at the end of this year, if not beginning in next year, you're still hoping against that this part of that full next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Thorpe and Adams, both coming back from TJ and that kind of probably two months into the year give or take, so you're not penciling them in.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many guys that really consider here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And who do you guys see as kind of the most clear like this guy can earn a rotation spot?
[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, it's the two names that you let off with.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's no assaults and Tanner McDowell.
[SPEAKER_01]: If they want to go full on youth movement, like, let's see what the pitching that we have built up, we'll see what it looks like at the big league level.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've been talking for so long about how the white socks have this glut of pitching at the minor league levels.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we haven't seen a lot of arms come up.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you know if they just want to show us, like Noah Schultz, Tanner McDougall, here you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are, in my opinion, the two most talented arms in the system right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you want to put those guys in the big league rotation and say, all right, run free, go out and show your stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that would be so fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it happens because when you look at the team for next year, it's not a lot of guys
[SPEAKER_01]: who it, excuse me, it's a lot of guys who have had that experience, especially on the pitching side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, Shane Smith is a rookie this year, but like, he's the youngest of the, of the rotation, and especially if you go out and maybe sign another piece, that's three, four guys where they all have two plus years of big league experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can afford to go and give that fifth spot or that fourth spot to a rookie, like, and especially if, you know, maybe they don't perform.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have
[SPEAKER_01]: all the confidence in the world in Charlton McDougall, but like I just want to see what their stuff looks like at the Big League level.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have to think the White Talks have pretty much told us what their plan is for Noah Schultz in twenty twenty six by setting him to Charlotte because they're not going to leave him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Charlotte, very long.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing there is that he hasn't thrown innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't had the innings to be a full big league star next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the pushback I have for you there, Dylan, is I don't think you're bringing, when you factor in the injury guys, which is Thorpe and Adams, who I do think get a crack at the rotation fairly soon upon return from their rehab starts.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not starting the clock with Schulte or McDougall if you're expecting them to be pulled out of their rotation, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Once you put a guy like that in your rotation, you're sticking them in your rotation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if a Davis Martin trade happens, then I'd be more inclined to give at least one of Taylor.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't think you can give both those guys an opening day rotation spot because of the fact that you know you're getting two starters back off TJ who are going to get a crack the rotation most likely unless you're just saying, hey, you know, Thorpe and Adams, you guys aren't starters anymore when you've gotten bumps, but like those guys profile so much better as starters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those aren't really relief profiles with both those guys being very command center, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So my thing there is I just don't,
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not sure how you make that happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: From the standpoint of like, you don't want to bring a guy up and then just be sholes and make do-go and whoever are too talented to say, hey, you get two months of starting and then you're getting bumped for guys that are older than you and ahead of you in the pecking chart, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So if the plan is in train day of his Martin,
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you're trading Jonathan Cannon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then I can see that a little more, but I don't think you get a debut from both those guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you still have, you know, some of those guys in the roster, and I don't think you're ready to trade a book, a Smith or a Cannon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Martin's the one who I think is a no brainer trade.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I don't see how, I like that it's Martin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think his story is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's come a long way.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a solid pitcher.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been a solid pitcher all season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I see David Martin as like the most obvious, obviously, so I can trade the Cannon honestly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, I might push back a little bit only because you need so many starters.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do.
[SPEAKER_00]: You do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the, I hate to even say it, but you know, the fact that the possibility of all those guys that you mentioned being healthy and ready to go and start the season, that's not going to be the case.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, baseball kind of takes care of these things itself, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so we'll see how that that's what I'm this year, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You thought you had forpin it as an Adam's pencil in your adhesion and then there they go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought we're going to have this killer rotation in Charlotte and these guys would be running a shuttle up to Chicago.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's it's very fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think proportions next to like it's an issue, but there will be a couple injuries, a couple of setbacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I think we're plenty of innings for all these guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that's the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just going to be tricky to figure out the balance of how to get these guys up at the right times.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also just manage time, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know fans from a fan perspective hate hearing this, but like, you, if this team is coming along in the positive direction, we hope it is and they're developing the right way.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a fact.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, like, who do you want that exterior control on the most?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, honestly, next year is still going to be a building here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be better.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really believe coming off this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think the scene can win, seventy, seventy, five games next year for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this team could push to five hundred nectar of everything really goes well, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But ultimately, like who are the guys you want that extra year of control on?
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, do you hold them a little back because of that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you guys see in terms of Tanner McGoogle?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he see any time in Chicago this year?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he vibe for the rotation early next year?
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he spend any time in Charlotte?
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, hey, getting Smith, what are you seeing in general from him since he's been back?
[SPEAKER_01]: With McDool, I think that he's like the the innings load that he's that he's on right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that
[SPEAKER_01]: It is sort of like shut down any idea of him coming up to Chicago at least this year because you know he's on a three three inning per star limit right now and I don't think that they would limit his limit his innings per star if they were also going to bring him up like
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, great Taylor early on in the year, but that was simply because, you know, they wanted to fast track him and, you know, if they were going to do, if they were going to limit him to three innings, it made no sense for him to be in Birmingham.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with McDougal, I think it's probably early twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, with, I, I'm going to, before you go to Hagen, McDougall is real five-velogical this off season.
[SPEAKER_02]: For people that don't know what that is, that means technically if he is not out into the forty-man this off season, because he was drafted four seasons ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's also going to be picked in the real five draft, like the white socks found with James Smith, with Mike Vassold, two great snipes.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not, knowing they're going to have him on the forty-man, knowing he's almost at his innings limit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of think we seem to do a lot of the penance of Timber.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it seems like we're getting that indication from people in the White Talks media a little bit and just kind of talking to some people around.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that the innings limiting route with him is hey, like you're at your innings limit pretty much.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got tennings left in the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's throw seven one innings per side of the bullpen and call it a day.
[SPEAKER_02]: or two innings parts out of the open and calling it an Chicago.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't need to be in Charlotte.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't seem to go as a guy who needs to touch Charlotte.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he gets a cup of tea here in September out of the open and then he goes in his print training either competing for rotations but or heading back to minors for a couple months, which would be perfectly fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could very easily see that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, can go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then with Hagen, like it just been such an up and down year with with Hagen because, you know, if you look at the box core, like his, his stats look great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's striking out everybody is not allowing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they may not great recently, but you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: He's striking out a lot of guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's limiting hits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a lot of his earned runs are it's been like walks and then they end up coming around to score.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then when you just look at like his stuff and just look at how like how we compare his to his draft year at Arkansas last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ticked down just across the board and
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know white socks fans weren't exactly, it was a split, split camp on Hagen on the, the day of the draft last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, it's so weird because he was sitting ninety five or higher and like touching a hundred at Arkansas last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now like I haven't seen him throw a ninety seven mile an hour fastball in a game this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, I don't know if he's hurt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that the organization would be letting him throw if he was hurt.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, you know, something is not right here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've talked about it a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not going to say that he's hurt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say that he's fully healthy either.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have, I have no clue.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's just something still left to be desired with Hagen that I don't think that he
[SPEAKER_01]: gets a crack at the opening date twenty six rotation and maybe not he could stay in the miners like all of next year maybe see September call up in twenty six next year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's been it's been frustrating.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, it has been I think seeing the stuff tech down has been has been not fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't like seeing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's something we
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to be saying we want to see a take back up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just with him like the the command is down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but I'm more worried about the stuff in the command ultimately command for that level of a picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think can come and can go and then they can kind of find that in the offices and more.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what I mean, hey, can some as sitting at ninety two ninety three is just nothing I expected.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not even see that at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm very curious to see how that works out.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see what that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to give it to the bullpen, and then we're going to do a real quick run through some guys who went off until I briefly.
[SPEAKER_02]: The bullpen, the first thing I mentioned here, Zach Franklin, that guy we've been preaching should be in the big leagues already, heads to AAA.
[SPEAKER_02]: Today, that's a guy who I don't know anything needs to spend much time in Charlotte.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would just let him get a little cup of tea there maybe in college today and just send him to Chicago because I think he could be.
[SPEAKER_02]: This bolt pen is also sneaky crowded going into next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you look at the big league roster right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also just picked up two kind of really interesting arm similar to yours on waivers, Brian Hudson and Elvis Park.
[SPEAKER_02]: At Pagaro, those are two guys who were literally shit relievers for a Milwaukee past year for a good Milwaukee team.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like they were guys just like killing things for like a, you know, a bottom feeder, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they were serious, like, like, Ben arms for for a good Milwaukee team last season.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then have a really rough years, but like, both could easily cement themselves in the road in the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not even starting with all the guys that are already in Chicago and already in the system, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a grand tailor, that's a lock.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a Mike Vassel at this point, it's locked himself in unless he's traded in the offseason Stephen Wilson is earned as part of the bowl of in the ball pen for sure going into next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's already three guys that you start with there that are pretty much locks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then you have the group of, you know, Jordan Leisure, Tyler Gilbert, potentially Brandon Acerick who I all think, like, have a reasonable, like, it would not be crazy to say they're going to be in the rotation or the ball pen at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they all have a very good shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Tyler Alexander who's been a decent veteran pick up and out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you look at Triple A. We we talk about Zach Franklin.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just talk about Ben Peoples and then you've got all the other options from from we come and Gonzalez, Frazier, Ella or does another guy who I still like can boozer is still in Charlotte right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you've still got your Arte and Charlie, you've got Peyton Palette and Charlotte, the Garrow women, gender earlier.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of guys who vibely Gus Farland got, yeah, there's on the sixty man.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was looked really good at times.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been training, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of guys who could factor into this bullpen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you even need to actually handle Broa.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a brilliant role.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was sure you were going to get there, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's a lot of pen options.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't even think you need to spend much.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you can maybe get one vet if you just want to give a little solidify, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to have one guy who's really experienced,
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think you need to do much with this bullpen.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got twelve pictures and that's not even mentioning the starter too if we'd slide into the bullpen, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's plenty of guys who could kind of shift into bullpen roles among starters, like a palace, like a Shane Murphy, like a, you know, Riley Dowons is a guy I could see taking up into bullpen role.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's a lot of guys like that with the bullpen pretty good shape.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that especially the back end of that bullpen, if Grant Taylor is like the closer of the future, you know, we've seen Chris gets come out recently saying he's not going to shut the door on him coming back to the rotation, which I hope that he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, if he is that closer of the future, you have a really fun seventh, eighth, ninth combo of a lefty specialist in the seventh, you know, maybe a Mike Vassel if he wants to, if if they
[SPEAKER_01]: shift him into that fully like one ending role instead of that Swiss army knife and then you got pre-lander Barola and Grant Taylor in the eighth and ninth and that is just that's really fun to dream on and there's a lot of talents in that in the bullpen that is gonna end up being in AAA next year just because there's not gonna be enough room and especially if you go out and you sign a bullpen role or even if you go out and splurge on a closer like we've been exploring the last couple months
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, it's going to be a pretty fun bullpen to watch next year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I really like to see that Franklin and Peyton pull that this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get an idea what they can do with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this year and last year, last year that when the white socks were so in the set of record for Bloom saves and they were before Grant Taylor, they were on a pace to do that this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping Grant Taylor is
[SPEAKER_00]: is the sea change that turns all of this finally and we get some a little more stability and consistency in the bulk and again though given that you know they're not going to be competitive next year you know we could still see a lot of the young guys cycle through and see figure out what we have for sure
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's plenty of options.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think welcoming in Zalos could be another guy who gets more innings this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Garrow from the brewer should get some innings out of Chicago this year, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's plenty of options here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, what I really like break this down and we talk through this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you need to add a single pitcher in the off season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they might, they might want to add a veteran either in the back of the bullpen or in the rotation just to kind of get that depth in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think that this is the offseason where the white socks typically operate in a quantity aspect over a quality aspect, and that has been the trend in the past couple of years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chris gets seems ready to spend some money.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's money coming from this be a... I'm ready for a quality over quantity offseason guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a lot of quantity in this system in this organization when you really break it down, especially on the pitching side.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to big gets, and one gets, gets, gets, gets, gets, gets.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't one like splash, and two puddles at least, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that you need to legit ads this off season that you can make guys fit in a lot of places.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to go get a short stop, if this white socks say, you know, throw it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you got at the top of this lineup, what we think is going to make this lineup better.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't love boba shit, but I'm just hypotheticals, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You can make them infield work around that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: If they say, you know what, we're going to throw a massive bag of Kyle Schwarber.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that kind of eliminates the carotale playing as much.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you find a way, you get Kyle tailing it in my field or at first base sometimes, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you make that stuff happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to make a big splash.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of depth in this rotation and in this bullpen, honestly, there really is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a list of pending free agents for next year and it's interesting that Mariners Act is with us tonight in the chat because Randy Rosarina was the guy that jumped out of me is feeling one of our.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is he.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he a free agent?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he had one more why did I be sure he had one more I could be wrong though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me double check that because I think when I was like in the outfield market, I was like, okay, you got Tucker, you got an intendi, or not an intendi party bellinger.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you got nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was my gauge on the outfield market.
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe I was wrong there with with a rosary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he has one more year.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has one more year on arbitration.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, because the outfield market is super weak.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a lot of guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you got to find a way to make a splash.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's gonna be a lot of teams, like, obviously Tucker's gonna play for the white socks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'd be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talking going from number to number comes to the white socks would make my life come true.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think that's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond that, even Shorber is probably a pipe dream with the season he's putting up right now, it would be sick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see you, Kyle Shorber in the white socks line up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that would be the perfect fit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a lot of guys beyond that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Even like I know you know from a fandom face like nobody wants Josh Nailer on the white socks, but like, you know, Labor Tores, Luis a rise.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some guys out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you had a swarrow if you want to go that direction right with more of it for a corner and field guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you want a ball on a cutting bell on your right, don't hate it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, you've got, you know, moot it's like somebody just mentioned.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's another good shot in the Japanese.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're moot it's more a comedy coming over from Japan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, super highly touted Japanese powerheader a lot of with there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So definitely something because there's Dylan chicken said a little bit of a scary profile there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, with the list moot it's echo, but
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of options.
[SPEAKER_02]: There really is a lot of options, even with a limited market, you can find a way to make splash and just get the key piece or two to fill out what is a pretty deep solid high floor type of roster.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one more thing that I'm going to mention is it makes sense given the outfield market.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why they kept Louis Robert because if he were to hit the open market, I think he's probably the second maybe third of his outfielders.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's buying Belinger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Belinger is getting paid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So either way, he's still at the top of that outfield market.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes sense why they kept them because
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can refer back to the twenty three form that would just make this line up a whole lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the more I would have if you asked me this a few months ago, I would have been like nope, but I was at the meds game with some of the JV guys and we were talking through some things and I the Cody Belinger ideas kind of getting in my head and as somebody as Alex just pointed out the idea that you can play center and first because if you trade off of Robert you can have a Belinger and center if you keep a Robert and you want Belinger playing first three four days a week and in some playing some outfield to spell talcmin and Benny
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of do like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have plenty of time to talk about for agents.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we're already got a little on time because there's so much talk about today and this was a good conversation to be having.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to fly through the levels real quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: One guy that impressed you guys in July.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boom, boom, boom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Starting in Charlotte, Dylan, take it away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Will Robertson is my name in in July hit two ninety six with a ten twenty three OPS like that is that's ridiculous stuff from a guy who just came over I forget when exactly the trade was made it might have been in July I'm not sure but either way a ten twenty three OPS in any given month is great you know he hit at four homers
[SPEAKER_01]: It struck out fifteen times, but we don't have to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, Will Robertson is my pick.
[SPEAKER_01]: He absolutely tore covers off the baseball in July.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff, we got.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with Brian Ramos.
[SPEAKER_00]: I keep hoping that we see a breakout from him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And July was a good month.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'd stick some runs and
[SPEAKER_00]: triple three doubles a two seventy six batting average three forty five over p five seventy non-slugging.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um... it's been a rough year for him but hopefully yeah he's gonna have a strong second half.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I'm with you there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yoenders Gomez guys uh... let's get this guy to the bigs another guy we talk about all this depth like twenty five-year-old waver claim who was part of the the Dodgers in the Yankees organizations I'm never gonna be mad about taking a picture out of either of those organizations pipelines right
[SPEAKER_02]: struggle to the big lead level and handful of outings this season.
[SPEAKER_02]: In July, a four starts made with a one four two R.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: comes out August first, makes another start of one run four innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's only throwing max five innings to start.
[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't really been stretched out as a full starter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put him in the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's give this guy bulk innings out of the bullpen during the next month or two.
[SPEAKER_02]: See if you have anything going in the next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got all these arms.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if you've got anything from a twenty five year old labor claim who's been really, really good in Charlotte all season honestly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Adding none of Birmingham.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dylan started off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with William Bergoya in July, bed at three o'clock with a three fifty six on base.
[SPEAKER_01]: His worst slugging month, or no, sorry, May was his worst slugging month with a two seventy-one slugging in May.
[SPEAKER_01]: May or July was a bit better, three twenty three slugs.
[SPEAKER_01]: So while he batted three o'clock, we had only equates to a six seventy nine OPS, which, you know, from a guy like Bergoya, you're never going to be like that twelve hundred thirteen hundred OPS header.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing I want to point out with Pragoia, not only did he walk more than he struck at, he walked eight times and struck out only five times in the entire month of July.
[SPEAKER_01]: He also stole more bases than he struck at.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was eight for nine on stolen base attempts in July.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's not a lot of impact.
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty eight hits, only one of them was for extra bases.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a triple.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like when you look at Pragoia's game, it's a really fun profile and he is just the
[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect, just all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stick the bat out there and I'm going to hope that it finds a hole.
[SPEAKER_00]: So did you see a major league are there, Dylan?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's so interesting because like the type of player that he is like limiting strikeouts wise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, absolutely, but then when you look at the lack of impact in the bat and yeah Birmingham is a tough place to hit homers.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's no power to stack up, but
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's an elite bench guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that's the guy you would absolutely love to have a guy on the last spot of your bench who can play three in field spots and steal you a crap ton of bags and give you a quality of that every time you get to know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm here for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you see him challenging Brooks Baldwin for his.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hoping I'm hoping it could be different spots.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, maybe, but I also think Baldwin could be more of the utility outfielder with programming more of the utility in filter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think those are two guys that are, you know, useful players to have on your bench.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff, will you got it in Birmingham?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I can't get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't get it on the sheet of, you know, the, you know, what a month he had, you know, at least the last thirty days, three, four, four, seven, four,
[SPEAKER_00]: You got he and Bergoia at the top of that line up no longer that team never goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's amazing you know eighteen walks to fourteen strikeouts twelve out of thirteen stolen bases.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think people there might be a little prospect fatigue with the sheet of but.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been really strong.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a funny profile.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea how to like expect or think about Nishita.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been one of the guys that's boggled my brain for the last year and a half.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing his thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's having that month where it's like, man, this guy just keeps getting on base and it's always fun to watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody asked me on Twitter, you know, what I see as his role.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think his role is they park him in Charlotte and he's Brooks Baldwin's backup.
[SPEAKER_00]: ball whenever gets hurt or goes into a slot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the sheet of a comes that utility player.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I can see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just like, the whole pitching staff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to give a name here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like, they're starting pitching and Birmingham.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my July, like, monster.
[SPEAKER_02]: Riley Gowans, you know, his last four starts with a point, seven, eighty R.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shane Murphy with a one, two, three R.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: in his last four starts.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can do go with a two, five, one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jake Palach with a two, five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just just great, great starting pitching in Birmingham this past months.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Birmingham, like, shout out to the Birmingham bearings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Holy cow this team might win this other league again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to lie.
[SPEAKER_02]: They really might.
[SPEAKER_02]: Depending on how many guys get pulled off that roster because they're going to lose some key pieces here probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they keep this type of talent and they add a few more pieces potentially to it with Antonachi, Nishida, Bergoya, Burida Montgomery, and that lineup and a handful of these pictures.
[SPEAKER_02]: This team is the best team of this oven league and I'm not hesitant to say that honestly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think not to Winston.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a color coming up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll come in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tyler's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down there and turn things around.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's such a good such a good tip.
[SPEAKER_00]: Such a good tip.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have record.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be absurd.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is, but it's going to be really, really good as what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't, I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I let's see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in the second half, or after, after Antonachi got called up, they're fifteen and three.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say, it's something ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, twelve in a row, fifteen out of sixteen, I can say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they've been incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Winston, let's wrap and fire these things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dylan, Winston, we got the same rules of all.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was his best month, OPS wise.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a seven eighty OPS.
[SPEAKER_01]: The walks and strikeouts were finally balanced out in July.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we had months in April and May where it's twenty six walks to nine strikes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, twenty six strikeouts to nine walks, twenty two strikeouts to nine walks in May.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then in July, twenty one strikeouts to eight team walks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he's finally tapping into that power stroke.
[SPEAKER_01]: It hit a home run and four doubles in July.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's his most extra base hits in a month.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got a base at a four, fifteen clip, stole nine bags.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a solid month from Zavala and Winston.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he finally looks like that key piece in the Dylan C straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeff.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got, you know, speaking of Zavala, he's up to two, forty on the season.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure we ever thought that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's getting.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff, we got him Winston.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm going to give a shout out to Christian offer because you really seem to be getting things turned around and you know, he's settling in and having a strong, he got off a little bit of rough start.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said a couple of really nice outings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm with you there.
[SPEAKER_02]: a quick you'll see who do I want to go with here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even have a pick for Winston off the dome, but I'm curious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, half a month of Antanauti, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go Alec Mcarivet, Alec Mcarivet with a very quality.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was actually the White Talk to my colleague, hit her with a month
[SPEAKER_02]: from the organization earlier.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he got some recognition from the media earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good to see him just have a big month.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a guy who we mentioned like, like, if we're an undrafted guy, we knew he was going to put up some numbers at the level of levels and comparison this and other guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the month of July, I really impressive over nine hundred OPS, for home runs, a handful of other activities.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a nice month from him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Heading to Canapolis, who you guys got in Canapolis, and then we'll wrap this up for the night and get to White Sox Mariners in seven minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with Caleb Bonner.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was after a slump in July where it was a five fifty seven or sorry, slump in June, where it was a five fifty seven OPS, turned it around in July with an eight sixty five OPS, three homers, ten walks, or yeah, ten walks to fourteen strikeouts, eight doubles in July, about a two seventy, slugged five hundred, which was his best slugging month of the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was great to see from Bonner, especially after that cold stretchy went through in June.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was great to see him get back on track and be that top end prospect that the white socks got in the second round last year and he has more than blown my expectations away from him in his first full year.
[SPEAKER_00]: the all-star break, you know, all these like bottom hurts his first year and he was just starting to wear it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can see he's refreshed now and he's back in the groove after getting some time off and my guy is woke out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: He went into the all-star break sick.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was crushing it in June and then he got sick and
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the time I'll finally gain the chance to get better.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's really looking like he's back on the groove again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had I think he put around two forty with a three hundred OPP in July.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a big step forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll finish up with Pierce George out here out of the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pierce George was a, you know, one of those save money.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not going to actually save money guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was just to lay it around college.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our last year out of the bullpen gets up to one of three, one, four.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've always done this stuff as nasty.
[SPEAKER_02]: But man, July, it's starting to come together for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: This he really struggled most of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in July, he goes ten innings, a point ninety R.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: eleven strikeouts in that frame.
[SPEAKER_02]: Only four hits allowed in those ten innings pitched in July for Pierce George.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I got you, I think could move pretty quickly out of the bullpen if things keep going well.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a dash.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got some other stuff to take care of here and my trip with some family.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this was awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really, really fun doing this with the three of us.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a good time for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will definitely make a be doing this more often.
[SPEAKER_02]: As a reminder, just after, you know, those who were just kind of tuning in to the end here and finding the episode later.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Future Talks is now part of the Just Baseball Network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are fired up.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have even more content coming your way soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate you guys joining tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go watch the lightsax.
[SPEAKER_02]: Be the mayor and it's hopefully all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next week we'll talk about all the drafties who are showing up and Winston and canapolis.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you next time on the roundup.