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[SPEAKER_08]: Hey, Johnny, you know what day it is?
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[SPEAKER_08]: Yes!
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, Home Day!
[SPEAKER_03]: Although, well, I don't know if you're the Cory, what's his name, the Senator down from Florida, or the Congressman from Florida, probably not Home Day for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: No!
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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, look, we've got the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the rest of the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pair politics bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are a little tired.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, you got to work through, you got to work through things when you're tired.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, at my apartment building today, I mentioned this earlier today as we were coming in.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fire alarms went off and of course my dog was really pissed off.
[SPEAKER_11]: Or baby, poor you, poor everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're, they're, they're putting in a new bar in the building.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, you know, because we got there, there's retail and residential and combined, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, um, yeah, it just, I, they say, you know, we could test these silently.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I wish you would.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish you would.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_11]: You want people to hear it though.
[SPEAKER_11]: So testing silently makes literally no sense to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, because they can test that the signals going and I guess they could, but my thought is is once you hear it and you know that it works, then you're done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have it for three seconds.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't need to be for like five, six, eight minutes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, God, no.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like a minute tops.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, you know, and they should have given you guys notes on your door that this is happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I suppose there probably is a note on the probably the door from the parking garage, but since I usually walk
[SPEAKER_11]: But you're going to be at the front door and on everybody's door.
[SPEAKER_03]: I go in and out this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, not well, everybody's door would be nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, I go in and out the side door.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's, you know, if I want to see the, the, the alerts, the warnings, I got to go to the front.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just how it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think they do not have a news on tap here in my apartment building.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just how it goes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, bye.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, future people.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, news of the day, of course, there was that shooting in where's that Georgia?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which remember when I talked about fire sign media, fire sign news?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you notice most of the cable newsers, that's what they did this afternoon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because even after they said, it's all clear.
[SPEAKER_03]: The injured are fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have the suspect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything is in control.
[SPEAKER_03]: They kept running with it for, I don't know, thirty, forty five minutes an hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because don't you know, there's a shooting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just like I said, you know, it's it's a plane in the barn.
[SPEAKER_03]: But is it news?
[SPEAKER_03]: But it makes great pictures and it gets your attention because we get a put on the caron on the bottom of the screen shooting shooting shooting.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I mean, if it bleeds it leads, we know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I, you know, you also know that I'm very, I very much the stickler for if it ain't news.
[SPEAKER_03]: Be fit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got something.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it is news because we keep having shootings in this country.
[SPEAKER_03]: So well, but, you know, we're not going to do anything about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least when we have, you know, Republicans in control of everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if they're not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, when we've had Democrats, we've tried to, but we haven't had full control.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when we've had full control, we had to do things like first, let's try to get health carry in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So at least when we get people, they are shot, they can get health care.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you've got to prioritize and that's, yeah, we just, you know, have a Democrats take over everything for about a decade and how much Democratic ladies.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm yet that be great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd be fine with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Kamal Harris Clinton, Justin Crocket, AOC, you know, Elizabeth Warren.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God, yes, I would have loved if have president Elizabeth Warren.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was my first choice.
[SPEAKER_03]: And first dog, Bailey.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who wouldn't like a first dog?
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's not where we're at.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are in this particular world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Governor Greg Abbott of Texas and Attorney General Ken Paxton have been trying to push to remove the Democrats who have left.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a great pressur by some of those Democrats in Boston earlier today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you saw that one obviously.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, it thinks haven't changed significantly.
[SPEAKER_03]: A court in is, and Trump are saying, we might get the FBI, but until they do anything illegal, the FBI can't do anything wrong.
[SPEAKER_11]: They've done nothing federalty wrong.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that's when the FBI comes.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's not like they kidnapped themselves.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, that would be an FBI thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: They all went voluntarily outside of the state.
[SPEAKER_11]: They have committed zero crimes, certainly not federal crimes.
[SPEAKER_03]: correct.
[SPEAKER_11]: So the FBI has no jurisdiction over what these people do when they travel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: And not only that, there were there were a couple different lawyers in a couple of different social media platforms that I reposted last night that went through some of the stuff that's habits and packs and are trying to push through to say, Oh, these, these texts are
[SPEAKER_03]: They have no legal basis.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have no legal legs to stand on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, it's, it's not a shot at Abbott because he knew wheelchair.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying they have no legal legs to stand on.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And where, whereas it looks like more and more, Gavin Newsom has started to firm stuff up in California and saying they may go ahead, regardless of what Texas does.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think we are and it's going to be a ballot measure and it will be on the ballot this I believe this November for next year.
[SPEAKER_11]: Which would be cool.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so it because it's such a short time frame the money that would try to stop it will take it'll be harder.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think to raise that kind of money.
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about yesterday on that, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not I'm not so much worried about the money on our side and I'm not worried because the balance of power for folks in California in general is folks in general across the board, whether they're democratic independent or Republican, they want
[SPEAKER_03]: The game to be played fairly.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want everything to be played fairly.
[SPEAKER_03]: The same sentence.
[SPEAKER_11]: One of the problems is our former governor, Schwarzenegger, who did pass the law that has made us not a jury-mandered state.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I agree with that law.
[SPEAKER_11]: So does Gavin Newsom.
[SPEAKER_11]: So is anybody that's saying that Arnold said he's going to fight Gavin.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like, dude, read the room.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and not only that, Newsom, they have said if the Democrats in California do go ahead with this, they want to make it contingent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which you can make contingent laws that basically says if states like Texas decide to play by the rules that they're supposed to play by, they were all supposed to play by, then California will go back to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That way.
[SPEAKER_03]: If, if Texas is going to play by its own set of rules, then fine, California will do this.
[SPEAKER_11]: We'll play by Texas rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, you know, you want, you want to do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_03]: You feeling froggy?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's jump.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, somebody reminded, I think it was Stephanie or somebody this morning saying that FDR got four terms.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that's when the Republicans said, oh, let's stop allowing presidents to be reluctant.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Um, so if California, Illinois, Massachusetts, uh,
[SPEAKER_11]: Washington state or again, Michigan, all these other states start doing what Texas is doing, then all of a sudden it reposes a big new.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: So we might actually get fair maps at some point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, but, you know, as we all know, Republicans can't win fairly.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not a long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Modern Republicans can't win fairly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And on the anniversary, sixteenth anniversary today, the voting rights acting signed by by a Texan by L. B. J.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more important than ever for for folks to stand up and realize there's a there's some great stuff today that Jody and I gathered for you guys in the news on tap there is a piece from the barbed wire dot com some great journalists there and it may speak says Texas Democrats have a message for everybody which you are in the redistricting fight whether you would like it or not if you're here in the US
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, this, this isn't just a Texas problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, Jasmine Crocket last night, she was talking with Ali Velshy, who was filling in over on a Chris Hayes show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, well, here, let's pull this off a DVR.
[SPEAKER_12]: This is not a Texas problem.
[SPEAKER_12]: If Texas creates five more House of Representatives seats, that's an America thing, right?
[SPEAKER_12]: That, that, that could be the distinction that could be the difference between Republicans keeping hold of Congress and the midterm elections or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it absolutely could be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, think about it this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, the Democrats should control the house, but we don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the only reason we don't control the house isn't because we didn't work hard, isn't because we didn't raise money, isn't because we didn't put up good candidates, but it is because
[SPEAKER_01]: North Carolina is soon as they ended up with the Republican majority on that Supreme Court decided to redraw the lines again.
[SPEAKER_01]: And instead of that state being seven seven, which sounds like how that state has historically been voting, instead now the congressional delegation is ten Republicans and four Democrats.
[SPEAKER_01]: They took
[SPEAKER_01]: three seats away from us.
[SPEAKER_01]: And those three seats would have made the difference in having a speaker Johnson and a speaker Jeffries.
[SPEAKER_01]: And well, one of those is bigger, better and greater than the other.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure you know which one that is.
[SPEAKER_03]: We all know Rep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jasmine Crockett.
[SPEAKER_03]: We all know which one is bigger.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, look, it's you've got the great Mr. Jeffries who is very well-apportions politically.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and then you got Tiny Johnson, one of these is bigger than the other.
[SPEAKER_11]: just Sean Louise Smith here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying, you know, we're going to talk about those kind of things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's let's be honest about this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the tiny Johnson is he's tiny in a lot of ways and isn't just his height.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's not just that either.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a small man.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of Republicans are small people these days.
[SPEAKER_03]: They and they're choosing to be this now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was kind of interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeff Duncan, former lieutenant governor of Georgia, has registered as a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is now Democratic voter.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not liberal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw him on how is it news nation?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I was clicking through some clips on YouTube and looks.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not liberal.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is very much concerned.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's more conservative than Joe Walls.
[SPEAKER_11]: I believe you are correct there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's also sane.
[SPEAKER_11]: He also wants democracy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Jeff Duncan can Jeff Duncan.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of things that he would do if he ran for governor in Georgia.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying he would, but if he ran as ran as a Democrat for governor in Georgia, there are a lot of things that he could get.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, there are places in Georgia where a conservative Democrat like Jeff Duncan could win.
[SPEAKER_03]: That a more liberal Democrat like Jasmine Crocket couldn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: true.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're not going to in in Marjorie Taylor Greene's district.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to run a Jasmine Crocodile when you're not.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish.
[SPEAKER_03]: Imagine.
[SPEAKER_11]: Leave a party.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, for you.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, she's upset about the Republicans because they're not crazy enough anymore.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not exactly sure what she's upset about.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't quite figured that out either.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think she's just capin' for TV time because nobody's paying attention to her that much and, you know, wine wine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want more attention.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever, Bernie.
[SPEAKER_11]: I was that out loud.
[SPEAKER_11]: Bernie's actually doing pretty good though.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, I said, Barney as in rubble.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was, I was like, you said Bernie.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, Bernie's Bernie's doing great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bernie's doing great polling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bernie's doing really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, Bob Cesca.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, not, not Pupsa.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pope Leo, who he jokingly sometimes called Pope Bob.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Bernie and Pope Bob made a very good showing on a new Gallup.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other Pope Bob, Bob Cesca.
[SPEAKER_03]: He'll be a player.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, he'll be here at the bar a little bit later this evening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, it's Wednesday night at some day.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've made it halfway through the week unless you are listening to us before third shift and then look, we'll try to get you energized, get you set up, get you going in.
[SPEAKER_03]: For those of you who are drinking already, refresh your drink, we have got the drink of the day coming up.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got more news on tap.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, let's go to the mansion.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got Bob Sesska.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Wednesday night, get the drink, get ready for another round.
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[SPEAKER_03]: there you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, but you know, every not everybody knows these things on top of the head.
[SPEAKER_03]: So everybody likes to have that stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least most people do even if they don't admit it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that way you look kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: You look like you know what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even though, you know, you're just following notes.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's important.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dana, by the way, dropped a message on Substack.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's from Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_03]: She lives in New Mexico.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, Dana.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: She loves, he loves it here at the bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she says that she loves your references to Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_11]: I miss it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am not sure what island she is on, but.
[SPEAKER_11]: From.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, because you said she lived in New Mexico because I lived on the big island and I lived on Maui and we used to visit Oahu.
[SPEAKER_11]: So those are the three islands.
[SPEAKER_11]: I know best.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have known people from Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: I should go at some point.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, you have to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because it's just everything I see in here's gorgeous and the people are one.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I haven't been back to the big islands since,
[SPEAKER_11]: Let me think, yeah, eighty four was the last time I was on the big island again.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I went back to Maui a couple of years ago and I hadn't been back there since eighty six.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it had been, I mean, so many stoplights.
[SPEAKER_10]: It shouldn't be there.
[SPEAKER_11]: Let alone that it was right after the fire.
[SPEAKER_11]: So that was depressing driving around La Hina because I couldn't get through there.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was, I just cried the whole way.
[SPEAKER_11]: Because it was, I mean, I lived there.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's understandable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, it's a home is one of the reasons that that's, you know, that I'll mention Nebraska that you mentioned Hawaii that we mentioned California and Virginia and D.C.
[SPEAKER_03]: and other places we've been the cities, Minneapolis, St.
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the place that we've been in the Southland, been to South Florida and we love the folks down in Atlanta.
[SPEAKER_03]: We, you know, look, the reason we mentioned all these places is because we know that you guys are here in the bar, you're coming from all these places.
[SPEAKER_03]: Home is wherever you are, and home sometimes is where you came from.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, it's important to us that, you know, you know, we know your home.
[SPEAKER_11]: I have yet to drive through the palaces, and Malibu, since our fire in January, because it's, I mean, I think we're allowed to drive through the, I know you can drive up the PCH now.
[SPEAKER_11]: because it was closed up until a couple of months ago.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not sure if you can drive through the palaces on since at Boulevard yet.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm completely unsure, but I want to and I don't because I know I'm just going to start crying.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, I mean, it's some of these things are so destructive.
[SPEAKER_03]: what the republicans what the maga republicans are doing because I do still argue and say that that there are people like Michael steel that are very good and yet for some reason are still registered that they're political I think they're trying to save their party
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a certain point at which you can't.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a certain point.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when I was in the Navy, there are classes of fires.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the things everybody who's on a ship.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to learn fire controls what they call an F.C.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to learn these things because if there's a fire on a ship, everybody's a fire fighter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there are different classes of fires.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the the fourth, the worst class of fire is it's phosphorus.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and the solution to a phosphorus fire is very simple.
[SPEAKER_03]: You cut that part of the ship off and you let it go down.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, because water is not going to work.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, there's really nothing that they put out a phosphorus fire other than burning out burning when it's done burning the fuel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if it's burning on a ship, congratulations, the whole ship is fuel, which you do not want.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the solution.
[SPEAKER_03]: You cut that part of the ship off because it can't be saved.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: when I used to produce for Michael steel for this deal in Ungershow.
[SPEAKER_03]: I told him then this was prior to Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was twenty fifteen and I said to him then I said I think your party might be in that class for phosphorus area.
[SPEAKER_03]: now no, it's fine, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm just saying he's I'm still Republican.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, well, I understand, but, you know, now very much, you know, you see him on his show, the weeknight, and with Simone and Alicia, and he'll, he'll constantly mention, but I still don't understand why he's still registered.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's an old school Republican that really wants to save his party and it's
[SPEAKER_11]: just start the wig party again.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean go back to before Republicans go back to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean sometimes sometimes certain things like that just cannot be saved and you know I I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, it's their party has done so much especially this since the second second Trump regime started so much bad things.
[SPEAKER_03]: They I mean the list of wars their tariff wars again Trump raised the tariffs on India to fifty percent
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you, my blood pressure medication is going to go way up.
[SPEAKER_03]: So everybody else is, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The war on immigration has a couple of interesting stories.
[SPEAKER_03]: Senator John Auseff, down in Georgia, his office has been doing a month's long investigation into all of these immigrant tension areas, these concentration camps, says there are tons of human rights abuses there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Hunter Walker, who is a very good journalist, he's working with talking points of memo these days,
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, he said that there is an information blackout in alligator alcatraz.
[SPEAKER_11]: There is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's that's on purpose.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, but because they don't want people to see the human rights abuses that they're doing.
[SPEAKER_11]: What's happening to women down in these places is insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's happening to trans persons is just off the charts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's there's there's been some stories, but look, you guys should read these two at least.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're in the news on tap today at the politics bar dot com.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is some good government news though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's always like, oh, yeah, the bad news.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my, yes, we have bad news like RFK junior cutting, five hundred million and MRNA vaccine contracts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, including like they're they're they're working there at this close.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are hair away from getting a vaccine for cancer for like eighty percent of cancer.
[SPEAKER_11]: HIV vaccines hepatitis vaccines cancer vaccines.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and they want to blow up a couple of satellites that deal with climate change.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah, that's not a great idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just they're so high Florida.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, Georgia.
[SPEAKER_11]: Hi, Louisiana.
[SPEAKER_11]: Hi, Alabama.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the Trump EPA is cutting a seven billion in grants for solar energy.
[SPEAKER_03]: which is where the entire literal rest of the planet is going.
[SPEAKER_03]: So just all of these things are dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's good government news too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody here in the bar knows how much I dislike Russ Vaughn.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will I will couch it very softly and say I dislike Russ Vaughn.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a sweet way to say what I know you're thinking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, you know, look, I'm, I've said it before if he was going to walk in front of a bus.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't pull him back, just saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep reading your phone, Russ, but he did get hit really hard by the GAO.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know this, Joe, do you remember this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you guys hear some of you that are here in the bar room or this, but Joe, as you remember, was supposed to be the department of government deficiency.
[SPEAKER_03]: which itself was redundant because we already have the government accountability office the GAO so those already was not efficient because they were duplicating but the GAO has stuck around because they're the GAO that's what they do they're there and all and and doge didn't mess essentially doge did not mostly mess with the GAO which is kind of yeah I'm like anyway but
[SPEAKER_03]: So the GAO released a findings saying that the Trump administration, primarily Russ Vott over at OMB, illegally violated the impoundment law by canceling NIH grants.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then a federal judge on top of that ruled that the Trump administration, again, basically because of Russ vaut tried to reallocate billions meant for the mitigation of national disasters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Prevention kind of like the stuff down in Texas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and Russ was like, no, we don't need to spend that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the federal judge was like, uh, yeah, you do because that's what the law that the Congress passed said.
[SPEAKER_03]: So shut your mouth and pay the bill.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm loving this because I am sure that, but the cherry on top of this wonderful, I hit Rustvot Sunday is.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the GAO, not only did they have this ruling, they literally posted on their own website, a brand new post.
[SPEAKER_03]: The title of the post is, what is a quote, pocket recision and is it legal?
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, you remember what was about a month ago when Russ Vaughn was in front of Senator Patty Murray, and she cleaned his clock.
[SPEAKER_03]: We put that video in the news on Tap Today at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_03]: But as she cleaned his clock about this, because he was basically trying to tell her without telling her that we're going to do a pocket resision, where we stick, we're just not going to pay the bills.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, now with the GAO, they literally have a post that they've made today this morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is a pocket decision?
[SPEAKER_03]: And is it legal?
[SPEAKER_03]: They go through all these things.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is the biggest clapback to Russ Vott, basically saying, hey Russ, shut your damn mouth and pay the bill, boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, oh my God.
[SPEAKER_03]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, and you spent more money than it saved.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And not only that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got places like, remember I said yesterday that I knew just because of anecdotal evidence of some of my neighbors that are here in the Virginia corner of the bar, nor the Virginia corner of the bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a piece that we put in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_03]: National Weather Service is hiring back hundreds of positions.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got cut in the doge chaos.
[SPEAKER_03]: I told you guys, I knew this was happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't just me.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is actual journalism to prove this.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, yes, we can clean this stuff up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's going to take a long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Today is the idiot anniversary of Hiroshima.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you know, Jody.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if everybody else here in the bar does.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm sure you've seen some of the footage of Hiroshima.
[SPEAKER_10]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And have you seen the footage now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen the whole area around that there's that iconic building that's in downtown Hiroshima and it still remains standing and so they built like a memorial around it, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's the whole neighborhood around it is kind of built up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, okay, yes, it took obviously eight years since we dropped a nuclear bomb.
[SPEAKER_11]: At least, seventy before they could do that, at least, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's taken a long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am hoping that it will not take that long to clean up our government.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we have to keep fighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why that's why the big story of the news is, of course, the Texas Democrats fighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we put that first up.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we talked about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why it's one of the biggest stories in the news because
[SPEAKER_03]: Those people, like I mentioned earlier this week, somebody who said, you know, democracy is dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Democracy is not dead.
[SPEAKER_11]: Not yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's no reason to give up and go, oh well, we're gonna lose.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just gonna give up.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, cause that's easier.
[SPEAKER_11]: Let's not do that.
[SPEAKER_11]: We're not there yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: God, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, those kind of people drive me nuts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just drive me up a wall.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, the first of all, you're doing an E or second of all, there's only one E or and he's Poo's friend and you ain't it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're too in a really bad ear.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're going to do the character for God's sake, at least have the decency to do it right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where the costume get the voice right, you know, I mean, come on, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, there's no reason to be as pessimistic as people say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get the things are hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not easy, but
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, a lot of people before us didn't do their jobs.
[SPEAKER_03]: They took the easy way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's part of the reason we're here.
[SPEAKER_11]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is what it is on that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anywho, so we got more news on tap here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Today, today, so we mentioned in the first segment, this guy, Corey Mills, what did you think about it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you wanted to tell him a story here.
[SPEAKER_11]: And let me pull it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's she's she's looking it up here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It deals with the rating miss United States.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's not Miss America, but she's rating this United States.
[SPEAKER_03]: She also she's she's also happens to be a Florida state Congress person.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... she is technically a state committee woman for the florida republican party so and she's what i received she's involved there but she's filed a restraining order against uh... u.s.
[SPEAKER_03]: house member representative cori mills reporting him to local and state law enforcement for harassment threatening to release sexual videos and to harm future boyfriends i'm sorry it's a she's he's he's wait he's not a trans person no he's not gay
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't appear to be.
[SPEAKER_11]: And he's not.
[SPEAKER_11]: He could be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, not Democrat.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is a white male maga Republican from Florida.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who had two girlfriends?
[SPEAKER_03]: One, Ms.
[SPEAKER_03]: Langston, who was down in Florida, and one here in DC reminds me very much of some of the sailors that I used to know where they had a girlfriend in every port.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, they are sailors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you know that was back then and this is now and these are you don't do that kind of thing unless unless all parties agree to it in which case I'm not going to say anything against it if you guys want to live that way.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's fine as long as everybody's aware of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, as long as everybody's aware of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the key.
[SPEAKER_03]: Apparently nobody but this dude was aware of it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and he's threatening her with with poor and violence.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because you know, that's what Republicans do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Poor and violence and forgetting things.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will definitely have to talk about Donnie's mental issues.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about that with Bob Cesca coming up in a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the drink of the day as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's definitely one for the history books.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will get to that coming up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love that more news on tap as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Refresh your drink.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Jody.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can tell me a little little parts.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to give me something to drink a little bit here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we should get everybody hear something to drink with the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that's a grand idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, speaking of grand, the Savoy Hotel in London.
[SPEAKER_03]: Beautiful from what I have never actually been to that particular place, but I have heard it is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just down the street from the Savoy Theater, where Gilbert and Sullivan did all their wonderful stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I believe it is the inspiration for today's drink.
[SPEAKER_11]: It is.
[SPEAKER_11]: Doily Carter.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: Is that, yeah, the Carter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Richard Doily Carter.
[SPEAKER_11]: Richard Doily Carter.
[SPEAKER_11]: He basically...
[SPEAKER_11]: designed basically the restaurant that is well the bar and it's still there.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's called the American bar at the subway hotel.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was kind of like the the Richard Branson of his day.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I think you're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, the hotel, the hotel, like the first one in London with all the stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking full electric lights, full elevators, hot and cold running bath water, and occasionally depending on the rock and roll group that was there, hot and cold running maids as well.
[SPEAKER_11]: but it also has a bar that's still there and if you if you click on the link in the in the drink of the day you'll see the bar itself it's beautiful it is it really really is I feel like the funny thing though is it was a hotel in London and the name of the bar is the American bar
[SPEAKER_03]: BAM.
[SPEAKER_03]: See, that was back when America was cool before.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, so it was in the eighteen hundredths.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's why.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it was post-slavery, eighteen eighty nine.
[SPEAKER_11]: So there were three drinks.
[SPEAKER_11]: I picked one that he was known for, and this is called The Hanky Panky.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, the Hanky Panky.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Corey Mills, we got a drink for oh, I'm sorry, never mind.
[SPEAKER_11]: We got a drink for a lot of people for that.
[SPEAKER_11]: So what we're going to get, it's the first time we've used a Nick and Nora glass.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, if you guys know who Nick and Nora are, they're from the thin man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nick and Nora Charles.
[SPEAKER_11]: And they, they solved mysteries.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so apparently this is the type of glass where that they were known for, hence it's called a Nick and Nora glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it's kind of like a small coop glass.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, well, or a small wine glass, maybe.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it's just kind of smaller version of a wine glass is what I'm looking at.
[SPEAKER_11]: It looks like that to me.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm so you need a nicken or a glass, a shaker, some ice, a stirring stick.
[SPEAKER_11]: So that's just to start.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then you need one and a half ounces of dry gin, one and a half ounces of sweet for muth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: A quarter, a twelve for the ounce of fernée, bronca le cure, I've never.
[SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like it.
[SPEAKER_11]: It sounds like it.
[SPEAKER_11]: One twenty fourth of an ounce.
[SPEAKER_11]: So that's really small.
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically like I just a breath of what would you say?
[SPEAKER_11]: Just say it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Fresh orange juice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Only say orange juice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't say OJ.
[SPEAKER_11]: Don't say that's bad.
[SPEAKER_11]: And two drops of saline solution is four to one.
[SPEAKER_11]: See salt to water.
[SPEAKER_11]: And these are both optional.
[SPEAKER_11]: The orange juice and the saline are optional.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's on what you want to taste.
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of if you want it a little bit more spicy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, kind of a little bit a little bit more citrusy.
[SPEAKER_11]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so you'd pre-chill your Nick and Nora glass and then you prepare your garnish of orange zest twist as we've been doing for all the ingredients into a shaker and then stir it with the ice.
[SPEAKER_11]: You do not shake this.
[SPEAKER_11]: You stir it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then you find strain it into the Nick and Nora glass and hey, enjoy.
[SPEAKER_11]: And when you go to the American bar, don't be so American that you're kicked out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Be a proud American.
[SPEAKER_03]: The kind that says, when they say, are you from America, you say, I'm from Canada.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: That kind of American.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, if you miss the drink of the day, or you miss any part of the show this evening, you can always subscribe to the politicsbar.com, get the podcast, get the recipe, and then you can catch up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then your friends will be like, wow, you're really cool.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talented that way.
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Back to the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is another Narlie Old Purp.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's another way to say GOP.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, I believe Jerry Atrick of Noxious Pricks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that also works.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean if we were going to use GOP like some people are in the media let's you know make the acronym worthwhile you know guardians of pedophiles yes I believe was Carlos the one who who or was that dean of it all I can't remember I want to say was Malcolm was it forget it was one of those three one of those get look we've had Malcolm in here before we've had dean in here before and Carlos is next week
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, yeah Utah's Republican state Senate Chief changed the consent law in his state because one of his relatives was facing a rape charge involving a thirteen year old.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is these are just two stories from last twenty four hours.
[SPEAKER_03]: The the courier mills and the Utah Republican Senate chief.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is literally it seems like at least a story or two every day of some elected Republican in office.
[SPEAKER_03]: As you noted earlier, uh, not trans not gay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not a woman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, not black.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are not an immigrant.
[SPEAKER_03]: Men not an immigrant.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that they're white male Republican.
[SPEAKER_03]: just say in folks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just say, uh, one of the other categories we've got in the news on tap today is dottering Donnie and it's for a reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been calling in that because he is he is he is he is losing his shepardonical as Bob seska would say.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's which he got from tray Parker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's still funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a song.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's a song called Spirüinkle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And look, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, but I don't necessarily hear Craig Traeparker say it, but I hear Bob Sesska gives that regularly.
[SPEAKER_03]: He'll probably use it later when he's in the bar here.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Donald yesterday forgot the H.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: Secretary of Christy Nome's name.
[SPEAKER_11]: Of course he did.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you forget her name?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's, you know, I mean, look, maybe you could just refer to as dog killer, but I mean, you know, what the hell?
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, people think that he's, and of course, so he went up on the roof.
[SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned this yesterday.
[SPEAKER_03]: He went up on the roof of the White House and several, several news organizations said he was joking.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he's joking or not, says he's ready to install nuclear missiles.
[SPEAKER_11]: So that the White House is easier to blow up?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and when next time we get Malcolm the bar here, we'll we'll ask you about this because while there is there's anti aircraft right stuff on the top of the way it has anti aircraft where good reason right, but you don't need to install a nuclear no missile that's just that's just stupid.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, there's no reason for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just him being an idiot.
[SPEAKER_03]: which, you know, whatever, but Mary Trump on her own show over on YouTube did weigh in yesterday.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I remember Mary Trump isn't just Donald's niece.
[SPEAKER_03]: She actually is a doctor.
[SPEAKER_03]: She sees Dr. Mary Trump.
[SPEAKER_03]: She has a PhD in clinical psychology.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if anybody actually has the wherewithal, both from the inside, having been in the Trump family and also the academics, it's Mary Trump.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she is saying that his cheese is a slide-office cracker.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got some clear cognitive signs of the fluently.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was dancing on the roof wasn't he yesterday doing the candy jay thing kind of a little bit yeah, it's just it was it was so weird if you if you look I mean it's what we put up Mary's little clip of it in the news on tap today and she's got clips of her uncle dancing and just it looks
[SPEAKER_03]: He just, it's like, what the hell is wrong with this guy?
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's, to me, it very much seems like he is some of the crazy stuff he's trying to do is what the kind of, it's, to me, it looks like it falls or it appears that it falls in the category of people trying to do things to convince people that they didn't mean to do them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you want to call them an ear cold thing, you know, I didn't mean to do that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I mean, I hijackedapper.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had Joe Biden done any of that yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_11]: forgot his DHS.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Jake would have had a whole other book out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jake and his his a Schlob friend would have had a whole other book out by this afternoon.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it's like seriously.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're not nobody hardly is talking about it in the in the in the in the legacy press is how I'm calling it now and legacy media they're basically not pointing to some people are but in general people are not pointing it out like they should be.
[SPEAKER_03]: and certainly not like they did when they were assuming all kinds of things about Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen oh yeah Joe just gave a speech the other day and pretty good yeah it was very good so we actually we had a clip we decided not to use it that day but I mean Joe's yeah he's oh Joe said and he's sick and he's fighting cancer right now people and he's he's still writing a book and giving speeches and doing fine so you know Joe Biden is is doing well Donald Trump is not and
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think anybody likes him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's just it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I definitely think when it comes to mental health, it helps to have people.
[SPEAKER_03]: People you know care about you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, so if it, but it helps that people around you that care about you that you know care about you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: if anybody does.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think his family cares about him.
[SPEAKER_11]: We know Monnie couldn't care less.
[SPEAKER_11]: Baron is off in New York and I doubt he cares.
[SPEAKER_11]: We know the boys only care because of money.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: And Ivanka doesn't need his money so she couldn't care less.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of my thing is that everybody is family.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tiffany included.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all seem to be, um, they don't seem to really
[SPEAKER_03]: And I suppose I shouldn't assume their motivations because I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: But to me, it just doesn't seem like they care about him a whole lot.
[SPEAKER_11]: They don't, if they did.
[SPEAKER_03]: They care not to make him mad.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, Ivanka just walked away because she doesn't need him.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: She's the only one of his kids as far as I can tell that does not need him.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, um, think about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: She and Jared have billions of dollars on her own.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think I think Tiffany is smart enough to squirrel some stuff away.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I don't know about beef isn't butt head.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and they do they I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: They look like beef isn't butt head.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's just and not as attractive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not as intelligent.
[SPEAKER_11]: Neither.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we all know that Don Jr.
[SPEAKER_03]: has spent a whole lot of money on blow.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's quite quite clearly spent money on, you know, he put it up his nose.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's not well because he has a terrible parent.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know how his mom was, but obviously she's not with us anymore, so I can't comment and he's an adult.
[SPEAKER_11]: But his father obviously is awful.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's got his father's name and yet it's almost like of all of the kids he's he's the most That wants to have his father's attention and the one that his dad dislikes probably the most
[SPEAKER_11]: It's between him and Eric.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Eric just fades in that fades into the background.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the other one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not not not because they don't like him, but because he can't remember his name because he's the other one.
[SPEAKER_11]: I got three boys, which one are you?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's see.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got Baron.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got Don.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're the other one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, anyway, that's just.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And he named Baron Baron because he went by John Baron, so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Things, you know, Mary Trump, we love you, but Lord girl, your family.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I read her first book, Trust Me.
[SPEAKER_11]: I learned a lot about that family.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And how someone as nice as Mary came out of something like that is, it is a damn miracle.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, we're gonna talk to somebody who knows Mary very well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mr. Bob Sasca is coming in.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's gonna see her soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, actually out in Las Vegas, we will talk about that wonderful trek, pun intended to Las Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bob has a really good segment out in the banter as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really good piece that he wrote.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Jody, I have to ask you because, you know, the fires, they're out there in California, they've been causing all kinds of problems, house things in your neck of the woods.
[SPEAKER_11]: More fine.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, the winds have shifted.
[SPEAKER_11]: So this morning when I went on my walk, the sun looked normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, good.
[SPEAKER_11]: But that just means the winds have shifted.
[SPEAKER_11]: So I don't know if that's good or bad for the fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which way five minutes the winds could shift again exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it was, it was blood orange for a few days coming up.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's real pretty, but I'm like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, pretty, but also dangerous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, you know, some of the beautiful, most beautiful sunsets I've ever seen in my life are smog related.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, the big fire out there right now to the Gifford fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Five thousand acres, the largest this year, as of this morning, it was just nine percent contained, which is better than yesterday when I think it was four percent contained.
[SPEAKER_11]: So, I mean, it's massive.
[SPEAKER_03]: And unfortunately, it pairs up with the other story we have that's in our climate section today at the news on tap that the great barrier reef has now officially suffered the worst coral decline on record.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to cry.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is some good news.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't put this one in, but I have seen recently.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw God was the PBS special that was talking about how they've been doing some some scientific gene work with coral and they are finding ways to get coral to be significantly more heat resistant.
[SPEAKER_11]: I hope so.
[SPEAKER_03]: By manipulating the genes, which is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can we do it fast enough to be able to save the coral reefs?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and are the coral okay with that?
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, that could screw up other things that the coral, you know, unintended consequences.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's always a possibility.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have we have no idea, but I mean, I would rather have some coral than no coral.
[SPEAKER_03]: True.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because coral is and at CORAL, not coral with a cue.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's that's different.
[SPEAKER_11]: Or coral when you sing.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no none of these I would I would prefer yeah, although like like you're sitting didn't didn't you sister do the the okay Coral okay Coral yes, she wrote a song called the okay Coral yes, yes, but now this is this is different this is different this is the coral reefs near Australia and New Zealand and yeah, they
[SPEAKER_03]: It's bad, but again, as I keep reminding people, just because somebody says something is bad, you don't throw up your hands and go, oh my God, it's over everything.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's also horrible.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it has been so great to see so many Democrats coming out and standing up and fighting with these redistricting wars.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am, I'm really pleased.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the funny thing is,
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you were the one that shot shot me this story this morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: We were passing stories back and forth to put up in the news on tap Trump and Tiny Johnson are facing problems with house members that are revolting about this redistribution revolting but wait what that's true too
[SPEAKER_03]: They are revolting because they see that if Texas goes ahead with this end and the other Republican and Democratic states in a fully diving into the redistricting war, it's going to make things significantly more difficult for them and their own reelection.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, do not do this because we can't guarantee that we're going to, for example, win those extra five seats in Texas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: When when I talked about it was it last week or was it this week that I that I did the the walk through on that did you you understood it I'm pretty sure but I don't know that everybody did reiterate for others.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's thing called PVI, which is a measure of how partisan a particular district is as far as their voting pattern goes.
[SPEAKER_03]: What Texas is looking at doing or at least Texas Republicans pushed by Donald Trump are attempting to do is to redistrict their U.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: house seats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Texas has already jerry-mandered those seats to some degree.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've already taken done what's called packing and cracking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cracking is where you take an opponent's district.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in this case, Republicans take a district that tends to vote democratic and they break it into.
[SPEAKER_03]: They crack it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they take the people who tend to vote democratic, and they try to pack them into one district.
[SPEAKER_03]: So instead of having three districts that all have, it could be Republican or could be Democratic, maybe an independent run, who knows.
[SPEAKER_03]: they try to push it so that it is more of a guaranteed win in those public areas as measured by pvi and so pvi measures what your more likelihood is that's how they decide they they look at it and say what they want is a pvi of plus fifteen optimally or more right because if it's a pvi plus fifteen in their favor
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, it's guaranteed.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's a set.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like it's like starting a football game with your team is up by two touchdowns.
[SPEAKER_03]: Starting a baseball game, you know, you're you're starting in a fifth inning and your team already has ten runs to start.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're you're set.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're you're fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, starting a WNBA game and you're up thirty points.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're gonna you're you are very very much likely to win at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's that's what they're that's what they're trying to do, but
[SPEAKER_03]: Since Texas has already gerrymandered the hell out of their maps, it makes it significantly harder to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: And in fact, the only way that some of the numbers people have said that the Texas would really be able to get five more Republican seats is if they pull the PDI numbers down somewhere closer to around nine or ten percent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, nine or ten percent is
[SPEAKER_11]: It's good, but it's not.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fifteen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fifteen is almost a lock.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when you're sitting, um, if you're sitting three to five percent, that's still.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a swing district.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's a swing district.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's between five and ten, it's winnable, depending on conditions.
[SPEAKER_03]: For example, everybody being pissed off at the Republicans for taking their healthcare for hitting Medicare and Medicaid and the ACA and giving all the money to the rich guys and taking it from the poor people and taking away all of the vaccines.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the Latino vote not quite going for him anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you have an environment like that, which is really what we're looking at is an environment for twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six for special elections and for the congressional elections in twenty six.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then you could shift that another maybe three four points depending on the district.
[SPEAKER_03]: So no, if it's a pvi of nine or ten in your favor, that's still very much in danger.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what these current Republican House members are saying to tiny Johnson and saying to Donald Trump is you guys do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no guarantee.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could do all of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And push that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the the the pair that goes along with this that we talked about earlier this week is Gavin Newsom and several people somebody pointed it out to Gavin Newsom on social media that using California's current rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: They could set it up so it would be fifty two Democrats zero Republicans for the House delegation from California.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they could do it with a PVI of no less than ten, if they packed the Republicans into those districts in California, they could do it with a PVI of every district in California of no less than fourteen.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if the folks in Texas
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's it's it's an old phrase, and it's probably from the south.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's from a friend of mine who, you know, used to be a little bit more southern shell.
[SPEAKER_03]: We say he's to hang out in, you know, the southern half of Missouri, but he said you feel in froggy jump.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anytime you feel in froggy jump, and that is, and that is really where that is coming from.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's why those Republicans are scared because this
[SPEAKER_03]: They're being so dumb about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no guarantee they're gonna shoot themselves in the foot and Democrats instead of sitting back Democrats are finally saying, you know what, how will this?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna, we're gonna push forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna do this and we're gonna fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's, I think it's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, nobody likes Jeremy Mandarin that is an honest human.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody on any side like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: And like I said, Arnold Schwarzenegger passed our bill in California so that we have the independent commissions that were two bills that he signed in the law that make California not a Jerrymandered state.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I gave him goodness for that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_11]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Unfortunately, he's not reading the room right now and wants to fight our current governor against what he wants to do.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so that's unfortunate.
[SPEAKER_11]: I understand it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Nobody likes during our current governor doesn't like it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Anybody with a brain doesn't like it, but right now read the effing room people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Newsom is even saying, look, if we make these changes, fine, we can make them contingent so that if Texas goes back and plays fair, then we'll play fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's no reason for Democrats to tie both hands and both feet behind their back before this fight.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's like the two seventy thing that that is trying to pass where two seventy to win.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_11]: The same kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: Hey, if you guys do this, we'll do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's that's the same state rep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Texas state rep and Johnson was was she had an interview with CBS news and she really had a great answer to this here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me play this off the DVR.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know that Republicans in the state, Republicans out of the state, look at what you guys are doing as they can.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're running away from the fight.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're running away from your jobs by not being in Austin today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: A banning your job is going to can't tune in the middle of a deadly freeze, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: A banning your job is cutting healthcare when people need access.
[SPEAKER_00]: A banning your job is cutting public education when we already have one of the worst education systems in the nation.
[SPEAKER_00]: What we are doing is the fundamental protection by our founding fathers and the Texas Constitution that says the minority party has the opportunity to break for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you know that the majority has really gone off the rails.
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that Texas Republicans are willing to sell their soul, sell out their state, and sell out the American people to serve the interest of Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_00]: And give him five seats at a time where we know he is afraid of voters voting on his policies next November in twenty twenty-six.
[SPEAKER_00]: When Donald Trump called Georgia Republicans and said, I just need you to find me eleven thousand votes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said, no sir.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a step too far.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when he called Texas Republicans and said, I need you to feel me five seats.
[SPEAKER_00]: They said, just do the I work for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's another great Texas Democrat.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's from Houston, by the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, yeah, I look that
[SPEAKER_03]: Democrats are standing up, they're fighting, and they should be.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that is what we want Democrats to be doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bernie, by the way, this weekend, he's going to be closer to me than he is you.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going West Virginia, I believe.
[SPEAKER_03]: And North Carolina, doing another one of those tours, I believe he may or may not have AOC with him, I'm not sure, but.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's doing very well, actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a little note in our news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a new Gallup poll, Pope Leo, Ukraine's president Zelensky and Senator Bernie Sanders are the only people among fourteen prominent global political figures that were viewed positively.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not surprised.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's in part because of, you know, his tendency to push the fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think Elizabeth Warren was on that list.
[SPEAKER_03]: There were a lot of ones that I don't think AOC was, she might have been.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think AOC broke even if I remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, you can click through and read all the numbers.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the Galapole link for you there in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, it was very nice that Pope Bob topped that Galapole.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are our own Pope Bob.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is coming in next.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bob Ceska, come in here to the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a very good piece up at the banter.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will talk with him about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about, uh, these modern Republicans trying to rewrite the Epstein timeline all the time they're trying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Epstein, and that story is not going away, folks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't think it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will be talking about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about more of the news on tap as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: With the one and only Bob Sesska, he is coming up here.
[SPEAKER_03]: On a Wednesday night, you got Jody Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got me, Sean Smith Pierce, and you got yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fresh enough you drink.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're glad you're here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is hope they even Wednesday night here at the politics bar and the one and only Bob seska he has made his way here.
[SPEAKER_11]: We had his lovely lady friend on yesterday.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, he just blessed us.
[SPEAKER_03]: He always blesses us with his presence.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we had kids with Johnson here yesterday as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's always he's always fun hanging out with.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure you know that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I will say, there are no other people in this apartment that do podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you've run your limit.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, cats or dogs or birds or fish do podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, just mean Kimberly and you've used both of us in the last two days.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: No more people from here.
[SPEAKER_11]: We are limits.
[SPEAKER_11]: We've hit our limit in jump and town.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a good dog.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nine, nine, no limits.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know what, those kind of jokes just don't ring as funny these days.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, kind of, just to be funny back when Biden was president, but in fact, we had a legitimate president, not a Donald Nazi.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not a dottering idiot up on the, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I would so like to be there when you and Mary are hanging out and talking because she did a piece we put it in the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you saw it or not.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's she's talking about her uncle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, obviously going around and dottering around, diddling around, uh, didn't run the roof for somebody tied a little bit earlier today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought that was funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Up.
[SPEAKER_03]: What the hell?
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, it is, he's got clear cognitive issues.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, he does.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Mary does a great version of her show called, I think it's called Trump trolls Trump, which I think is a great idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm her YouTube channel strongly recommend.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but we're going to both be at that Star Trek Las Vegas this weekend.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yes, you get on a plane this weekend, don't you?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you can see the expression of excitement.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the patient on my face that I get to be on an airplane, which is my, yeah, I don't get me started on the fact that airplanes discriminate against tall people.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they definitely do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tall people have to pay extra in order to fit in those seats.
[SPEAKER_11]: And yeah, well, these old singers almost as tall as you are.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's thin slightly thinner, but he's very tall on it would be like, do you need the extra legroom and they would have to pay extra money?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Depending on the airline, yeah, you do have to pay extra for those.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is, I'll see it's the fire aisle, see it's whatever they have a little bit extra extra legroom, am I wrong?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I always have to upgrade to more legroom, which costs you more than coach, obviously, so great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I can't fit into coach.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I would feel as though they need the check-in counter, the airlines at the airport.
[SPEAKER_04]: What they need is one of those sticks, like at the amusement park.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's that if you're taller than this height or whatever it is, if you're taller than the stick, then they give you priority to get those, like a tall section of the seats in the plane.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about getting first class seats, although that would be great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't turn that down.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just talking about the exit proceeds, which now it used to be that you didn't have to pay extra for.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But now you do, which means those of us who are taller,
[SPEAKER_04]: and we, and by the way, we can't become less tall through diet and exercise, that's not how that works.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I either have to, or agami myself into a coach seat, or I have to pay extra for the exit row seats, or the extended leg room seat, which is just discriminatory as far as I'm going to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, no one, no one sheds any tears for the tall people, but it is something that we have to deal with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and then you've got the glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you wear the mask, which I'm sorry, these days, I still, if you're flying on a plane and we're the nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then you've got to deal with the fighting, the fogging the glass, because you have the mask.
[SPEAKER_11]: Just pinch it right over the mask and it makes it so not like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it all depends on, you know, I just, I look at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like flying is not fun these days.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's gotten better.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now that there are sockets to plug in your phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: That does help.
[SPEAKER_04]: That makes it a hell of a lot quicker as far as, you know, because I could just sit there and do them scroll for the entire flight.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have to worry about losing my phone battery.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the internet is somewhat reliable.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's more reliable than it used to be maybe five years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: So between the USB sockets and the reliable internet, that kind of improves the situation.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even when I have to wedge myself into a coach.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, at least you don't have to sit next to Bill O'Reilly, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: when, yeah, I guess there's that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have said that's next to some interesting folks on planes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I will be kind and not, you know, mention these people, because these are not either average people most of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like sometimes you get set next to somebody and you're like, what the hell is wrong with this person?
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, no, I said next to somebody the last time I flew, I don't remember where when I was when it was, but we were chatting very nicely to each other and then I realized she was a maga.
[SPEAKER_11]: And I was like,
[SPEAKER_11]: OK, I'm just going to kind of walk away from this conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she didn't realize that you were not.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so you're like, I want to, you know, I just kind of said, I'm going to read my book now and just kind of did one of those.
[SPEAKER_04]: to tell me that there is a greater feeling than being sitting on the aisle seat, sitting on that aisle seat.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the doors close and no one has taken that middle seat.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's my favorite.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's one of the greatest feelings in the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then conversely, the worst feeling the world is everyone's mostly boarded.
[SPEAKER_04]: That middle seat is empty.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then someone's running in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Running in, it's on the plane, it's down next to you.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is the worst.
[SPEAKER_03]: The last time I came back from Nebraska, I had to, uh, it's coming through a hair.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I had to run to make my connection to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're done that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was.
[SPEAKER_03]: that was not fun and I ran and I got there and this is one of the big jets that has you know six seats with the aisle down the center right or you know just got the three on each side
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, okay, comfortable.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: And seats to those seats have a little bit more leg room.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're a little more cushy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, nice newer playing kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I sit down and I was I was wearing something Husker related because, you know, whatever I'm coming from Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, and I sit down and the attractive woman next to me is like, Oh, you're from Nebraska.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Going, okay, please be a good conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Literally, the flight between Chicago and DC just gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Zip, bam, she was fat.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sitting there going, yes, I scored.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got somebody, because I was the one who was on the aisle.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, yeah, I'm just perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, yeah, when you get, when you get somebody like that on your flight,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's nice not not not like somebody who does not believe the abstinence stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I turn the conversation that way because you happen to have a very good piece.
[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll say segway, it's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You look, you have a fantastic piece.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's up at the banner.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got a link in the news on tap in the guest section of the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your new piece, it's MAGA is rewriting at the Epstein timeline.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't disagree with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they are very much trying to be revisionist about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very, they know they know as much as they know as much as they know as much, but it's not all of MAGA.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's only, I mean, this, the whole Epstein story has continued to divide MAGA.
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about it last week.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about it here for a few weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: What does now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Months since this is about a month now, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're deliberately trying to confuse people who are paying attention to them.
[SPEAKER_04]: by, yeah, and that's I think part of the strategy too, which is to confuse people to the point of giving up of not wanting to hear anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand what the hell's going on with this Epstein thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to write in my book and you guys can talk about Epstein or whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure there are quite a few people who have no idea what the Jeffrey Epstein story was all about and only started paying attention maybe in the past month or so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the word coming from the American president slash dictator is immensely confusing and they're scrambling who said what who did what when when he cut bait with Jeffrey Epstein.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a hard and fast date.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know when that happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: It happened in two thousand seven seven years after Virginia, your phrase was stolen quote unquote stolen from the Marlaga spot with one L not to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was a star line.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was a star line.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she was an old during pastry.
[SPEAKER_04]: talking about the revisionist history that Donald is foisting upon the American people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That almost seems like old news by now because gazillion things have happened since I wrote that piece last week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Namely, Donald Trump very clearly engaging in a quid pro quo in a transactional arrangement with Glenn Maxwell.
[SPEAKER_04]: And by the way, I'm continuing to pronounce it both ways, just in case, July and Galane.
[SPEAKER_04]: But this is an obvious transactional deal between the Trump administration and Galane Maxwell's lawyers.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, and do I need to spell it out?
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't say Donald, make sure you say Donald Trump had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He will move you.
[SPEAKER_04]: in an unprecedented way to a minimum security facility in Texas.
[SPEAKER_04]: A club fed in Texas.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had that story too in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the funny thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you had the the Democrats in the oversight committee.
[SPEAKER_03]: House oversight committee got it pushed through that they will get the Epstein documents.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Republicans insisted they wanted to have witnesses.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they subpoenaed ten, and of course, you know, Republicans and Fox are making it sound like they're all Democrats, but literally they have former Attorney General Gonzalez on here.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have Jeff Sessions.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have Robert Mueller, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Bill Barr.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is not exactly a liberal if you know him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jim Komi, Garland, and yes, both Hillary and Bill,
[SPEAKER_03]: But here's the thing, they have all these subpoenas going through until what like the end of, no, it's actually goes through into October.
[SPEAKER_03]: It goes in with his allies.
[SPEAKER_11]: And where is Alex Acosta?
[SPEAKER_11]: Is that his name?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, he's the guy who got the deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have that story in the news on Tap today too.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the guy who got his Trump's former labor secretary.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the prosecutor who negotiated Jeffrey Epstein's sweetheart deal in the process.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the Republicans on the House over site committee didn't want to put him on the subpoena list.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is so supposedly, they, I like it and I say, this is stupid with two O's because first of all, you're going to take this subject and extend it all the way through into October, which by by having them because, and it's, and it's every like two, three, four days, there's going to be another one of these DOJ interviews with one of these, these former people, which is dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the one guy, he's still alive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alex, the cost isn't dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't you subpoena him?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, of course not, because he's still within the Donald Trump inner circle.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so he's not going to be held accountable in any way shape or form.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, but so yeah, you're exactly right, that this story is going to extend on and on and on.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm perfectly happy with that because I think it's one of the only things.
[SPEAKER_04]: I apologize, there's some sort of fire alarm happening outside or some sort of truck moving backwards.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm incessant beeping.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're hearing on in the show is not anything going on with justice.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was a fire alarm actually here at this end of the bar earlier today.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were testing the fire alarms.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you said there and you go
[SPEAKER_03]: what the hell man people got work people got animals they got kids people who are I literally know of at least two people in my apartment building who are their third shifters they sleep during the daytime so jodie thank you for going out and and telling whoever that was in the truck backing up to please stop that's not that's not a jodie house that's a my house oh I went you know I was a doorbell ringing
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, everything's happening all at once today, Sean.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every intrusion, I'm surprised the weedwackers have income by.
[SPEAKER_04]: See the weedwackers are leaf blowers every time I open our microphone.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, if Lonnie were home, he would have dealt with what I just did.
[SPEAKER_03]: But okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, you know, somebody door ditching you is not cool, but you know, whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although I didn't, I didn't used to have fun door ditching when I was a teenager, but I do not recommend that as a general form of.
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys know what I'm going to say, Dority.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know exactly where you knock him and run away.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, we had some kids do that a few years ago and it was so loud.
[SPEAKER_11]: It scared the crap out of us.
[SPEAKER_11]: And did they come up with a knock on the door?
[SPEAKER_11]: No, they banged on it really, really hard.
[SPEAKER_11]: And we're like seriously.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just dumb.
[SPEAKER_11]: What if I was an elderly person with a heart condition?
[SPEAKER_11]: I would have done it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or what if I'm in a state where more guns are allowed?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's dumb.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was done on their part.
[SPEAKER_11]: And we had it all on camera.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the other thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can see when you go up to somebody's door if they have the doorbell cameras.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, ours are very visible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't even get one of those.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kids these days, some of them are not exactly the most intelligent out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, OK, there is a neighbor girl.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's the daughter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't live here full time of who lives in my apartment here in the Virginia DCish metro area.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she was like, oh, what is this freaky Friday movie all about?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Just I'm like go Barbara Harris, Jody Foster.
[SPEAKER_11]: We'll go with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: How many versions of that movie?
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, oh, this is something that third I think of the actual film.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Because you're been, you know, seventeen again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, she's, she's young enough that I'm like, I would think that she would remember when Lindsay Lohen did more younger stuff, but anyway, I just
[SPEAKER_03]: So part of the reviews for that look like it's gonna be a good movie, which you know, that doesn't surprise me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Jamie Lee Curtis, Lindsay Loan.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just to deceive, it's, you know, it's gonna be fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just gotta say, I gotta jump in and say, this is the best segment we've ever got.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, we aimed to please, you know, you aimed to please.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, it is a break here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bob, you want to hang out with us and a new escrow?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we have to improve upon what just happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll come back with Bob Saskar.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will improve upon it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have more news on tap and look, just get a fresh round of drinks and come on back.
[SPEAKER_03]: It will be a good segment.
[SPEAKER_03]: We promise.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking in the break about the crazy things that we hear as we are recording these shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we were talking also about the craziness that is going on in politics.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have been.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had Joe Walsh in here, Bob, you know that that we had, you know, Joe Walsh the week before he became a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Walsh was in here talking with Jody and I.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all the stuff, most of the stuff that he is now trumpeting about being a Democrat, but a conservative Democrat, he was, and we're like, look, you should become a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Joe, you're the one that actually told him that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah, she's she's given to I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then so you were the one nice.
[SPEAKER_11]: Don't tell Stephanie.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it keeps going because news today the former lieutenant governor of Georgia Jeff Duncan has registered as a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, immediately you see some of the farther left people come out of the woodwork.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he sucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, if you saw his, if you saw his clip, I saw his clip for he was on News Nation, I don't know, last night, something like that, talking about this, he's one of those conservative Democrats who says, well, I think the party should, should maybe go more centrist, more, and look, we're gonna have those.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a party that's this big, but literally Joe Walsh was out there arguing on multiple social media platforms last night with somebody who is like, I don't understand how you can support, I was on Mamdeni.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Joe Walsh is like, I don't understand how you cannot support Zord and Mamdeni.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, I've been a Democrat for two weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: This person he was arguing with has been a lifelong Democrat supposedly and he's like, you're arguing against Mamdeni because you're saying that he's he's not liberal enough for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Joe Walsh is going, dude, I've been a Democrat for two weeks and I'd back Mamdeni.
[SPEAKER_03]: What the hell is wrong with you?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I, you know, it's it's for for those of us who've been around while it's one of those things where we're seeing some of these people out there who are just off their freaking rocker.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, parents are not helpful.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was I quote, we did Chris Saliza.
[SPEAKER_04]: who wrote this on a loose guy today he said resolved both parties sort of suck and and you are telling me or anyone that I have to line up behind one of these two no matter what no way that's a recipe for more of the same from politics and I think we can do way better
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I get going back to his initial remark, which by the way, now I'm seeing this is a blue sky post from eight days ago, but nevertheless, he says both parties sort of suck.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the typical thing that we get from a lot of these guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's certainly a criticalism and Ted and Ted are in a Chuck Todd are well known to suck that they both suck.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're their official sound effect is because they suck anything they say is mostly suck.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just what it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and they're buying this false equivalence game right making sure that as horrible as the Republicans are, the Democrats are just as horrible, which is empirically false in every way, shape or form.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I quote tweeted this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, one party has gone full fascist authoritarianism is disappearing innocent people to torture prisons, is defunding institutions and cancer research, is destroying the economy and worse.
[SPEAKER_04]: The other embraces democracy and normalcy but has a messaging problem, man, that's about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Same obviously.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm getting... He's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I tapped into a hive of a battery and progressives, though.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_03]: You said that in it was like troll bait and the trolls came out and in and like yeah, yeah, Jesus.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean the notion that trolls don't exist on blue skies absolutely false.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, they're not, you know, they're not the same kind of trolls as you see on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're trying from a lot of click farms, some of them maybe in Russia.
[SPEAKER_04]: But maybe this case on computers?
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe that case on computers.
[SPEAKER_11]: I've seen a movie about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, these are just contrarian leftists.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Think both parties are just as bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're just as steeped in corporate money or whatever they're talking about, just as responsible for
[SPEAKER_04]: whatever their pet issue happens to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: It couldn't be more, couldn't be more false, couldn't be more off-base.
[SPEAKER_04]: And again, what this does is it not only elevates Republicans but diminishes Democrats because if, yeah, if both parties are the same, then Republicans are
[SPEAKER_11]: You're not bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: I comparison better not as bad as they actually are Democrats are far worse than they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, go through the issues.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not a controversial thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not a controversial observation that the parties are not the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you go down through the issues, you go, you talk about things like racism and reproductive rights and empathy and the basic things pro democracy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, take a take a random sampling, take the just the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_03]: literally starting the top pro democracy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think the people should be able to steal elections?
[SPEAKER_03]: Democrats say no Republicans say yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Next, the Trump Epstein scandal.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'd like to know the truth Republican say no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mostly, especially ones backing Trump, Democrats say yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Old Marley Perps, old men should not be scheming and threatening violence.
[SPEAKER_03]: against women and yet we have that and children and yet we have that the tariff wars we think on the democratic side that you know we should have a place that's stable that businesses can decide Trump thinks we should be able to throw tariffs around as a weapon anytime the war on immigration they don't want any brown and black people we would like people who you know get your immigration
[SPEAKER_03]: just every single one of these things all the way down the list.
[SPEAKER_03]: You look and you go, Democrats and independence in the non-Trump Republicans are pretty sane options.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of them have different policies like I'm not going to agree with Jeff Duncan on certain policies.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just not.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think I'm glad that Jeff Duncan former Lieutenant Governor of Georgia is now registered to be a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_03]: If no other reason than if he decides to run for governor of Georgia,
[SPEAKER_03]: There are areas like Marjorie Taylor Greene's district where he's going to get some votes that if you have somebody who is fantastic and wonderful adjustment crock at we love her but she ain't never going to get the kind of votes in Marjorie Taylor Greene's district the Jeff Duncan can.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Jeff Duncan, if he ends up becoming the governor of Virginia or becoming the governor of Georgia, he would be sane.
[SPEAKER_03]: You wouldn't end up seeing some of the absolute back crab crazy stuff like you're seeing with Abbott in Texas.
[SPEAKER_03]: He would look at this and go, no, we're not going to play the redistricting game.
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, he is literally one of the people who said, we are not going to give eleven thousand votes to Donald Trump because we're not going to play that cheating game.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, as we fight Republican voter suppression and we fight jerrymandering and all of the things that all of the roadblocks that are thrown up between us and the democratic process of American elections.
[SPEAKER_04]: What makes that even worse are contrarians like the ones I'm seeing on blue sky today who will deny their vote to the Democratic Party because they do because they think both parties are the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what that every vote denied the Democratic Party makes it one vote that one vote more likely that the Republicans win.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the electoral math that gets lost in the both parties are the same ridiculousness.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we know for a fact that the things that we're seeing right now with the Republican Party and quite honestly, the things we saw with the Republican Party twenty years ago, forty years ago is vastly different than what we see with the Democratic Party.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is the Democratic Party perfect?
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely not.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: No one's claiming that the Democratic Party has all the problems solved and they've got the best messaging and they've got the best platform and the most effective way to go about winning elections.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know that that's not the truth, but what we know is from a policy point of view, from an issues point of view, there is no comparison.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Republicans are awaking nightmare and Democrats are at least earnest and try to do the right thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't always succeed, but
[SPEAKER_04]: That's partly because they're never truly or very seldom given the chance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Barack Obama was elected in two thousand eight with a sixty vote majority in.
[SPEAKER_04]: When seventy days he had six years before period of time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but beyond that Joe Biden had to fight against a Republican Congress for a good portion of his presidency.
[SPEAKER_03]: and still got an enormous amount of money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: Nancy Pelosi was really good about getting stuff done in the house.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was Nancy Pelosi can count better than anybody.
[SPEAKER_11]: She's a hit there where she was a hell of a speaker.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but there were still compromises that had to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they were a period of time early on that, yeah, there was a democratic set up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you need a compromise.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, nobody gets everything they want.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the other thing that the both sides people think, the false equivalence people think is they don't understand that in order to have a successful presidency, you also need to have a Congress that matches the same party as the president.
[SPEAKER_04]: In this case, the Democratic Party.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so, therefore, you have to work just as hard to elect members of Congress as you do.
[SPEAKER_04]: The president, you have to make sure to vote Democratic all the way down, and that way things can actually get done.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then what happens is if that doesn't happen, then the Democratic president, whoever that might be, is criticized for not getting certain things done, not living up to certain promises.
[SPEAKER_04]: When, in fact, it's impossible for that president to do anything without a like-minded Congress.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wait, but I don't want to sabotage.
[SPEAKER_11]: Don't executive orders count as long now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, and I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: We definitely need to make some more changes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Scott, who was I, somebody was just shouting and yelling, and I was thrilled with the other, although I've seen it in multiple places.
[SPEAKER_03]: People saying, well, what we've said, we had one of our fans here in the bar called in here a couple weeks ago, Deb, and we were going through a list of things that we need to do as a country once the good folks regain power to make our democracy work better.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of those things is multi-membered districts.
[SPEAKER_03]: where you're not fighting to the death over everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's going to mean that we're going to expand Congress.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have more people in the house.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just how far you would like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hell yeah, a lot of places would like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And multi-member districts mean if you've got enough people in your district.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you could have a Republican member of the House and a Democratic member of the House and an independent member of the House all from the same district.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just one of any number of ideas that we have that could make our democracy work better and would make it such that if you had a Democratic president in there,
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if there was a, you know, a Congress that was, you know, say, forty five percent Democratic, forty five percent Republican and the rest independent, that they could still be far more likely to get stuff done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything isn't going to be an existential crisis and all or nothing moment if we get in power and we change these things.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I realize that's part of what this redistricting is about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody has yet fair redistricting is better.
[SPEAKER_03]: But fair redistricting will only work if we have fair redistricting across the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: As long as we have places like Texas where they are going to try to use the system to cheat, then, you know, we've got places.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to have people like News about in California, New York, you know, more Indian states, governor more.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think he's thinking about it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, Maryland.
[SPEAKER_03]: You bet he is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's we got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's it's good to see Democrats getting out there and fighting for all the things that we we give them crap about it is very glad to see the most of the party seems to be getting the idea of we got to fight so which is good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bob, we always love having you in on Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, enjoy Las Vegas have fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell Mary Trump.
[SPEAKER_03]: We said hello when she can.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is welcome in the bar anytime.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll let her know.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you next Wednesday back here at the bottom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Travel safe and get the extra leg room.
[SPEAKER_03]: all right I'll talk I get more about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take care both of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you tomorrow.
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