WEBVTT 00:13.568 --> 00:17.252 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, welcome back to this episode of The Overcomeers. 00:17.633 --> 00:23.199 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm joined by some good friends and folk from the church, Marty Brian and Eric Loper. 00:24.180 --> 00:28.845 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to talk today about the integration of business and faith. 00:29.887 --> 00:31.328 [SPEAKER_02]: I think one of the things I get. 00:32.550 --> 00:44.948 [SPEAKER_02]: mainly because I've shared some stories and stuff, but oftentimes get men and women either emailing in or kind of finding me in this space or that space and just going, I really want to live a life where 00:47.391 --> 00:53.837 [SPEAKER_02]: My faith isn't just kind of what I do on sunny mornings and then what I'm doing in my personal time. 00:54.337 --> 01:04.125 [SPEAKER_02]: But as I build my business, as far as I lead my business, I want to lead into that business in a way that's faith forward and my faith is integrated into it. 01:04.846 --> 01:15.215 [SPEAKER_02]: And then there's all the difficulties of that for men and women in these days, not all of them are CEOs, you know, not all of them are sea sweet people there. 01:15.795 --> 01:26.661 [SPEAKER_02]: maybe high-level managers or vice presidents who have faith and maybe they're working for a Fortune five hundred company that has other values than their own trying to navigate those spaces. 01:26.741 --> 01:37.988 [SPEAKER_02]: And so when I was thinking about this subject, you were the two that I was like, no, these guys can help us, even though your stories are different and two different, very different domains. 01:38.048 --> 01:42.130 [SPEAKER_02]: I think technology and the restaurant business, although restaurant business has some technology. 01:43.191 --> 01:45.072 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm guessing the tech industry has some snacks. 01:48.013 --> 01:52.754 [SPEAKER_02]: So really, that's kind of the flow of the conversation. 01:52.774 --> 01:58.556 [SPEAKER_02]: And let's just talk about how to lead into our business and build our business around our faith. 01:58.616 --> 02:02.377 [SPEAKER_02]: So those two things aren't separate, but they're kind of co-existing together. 02:02.497 --> 02:06.598 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think you'll have different takes just from the different domains you're in, but that 02:07.078 --> 02:09.540 [SPEAKER_02]: that's kind of the heart of our conversation today. 02:09.660 --> 02:12.403 [SPEAKER_02]: So why don't you, why don't we do this? 02:13.103 --> 02:22.732 [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you start with just like a three minute, this is who I am, this is what I do, this is how my business functions and then we'll go from there. 02:23.152 --> 02:23.433 [SPEAKER_01]: Perfect. 02:23.973 --> 02:24.253 [SPEAKER_01]: Tooper. 02:24.513 --> 02:25.454 [SPEAKER_01]: You're looking at me all start. 02:25.474 --> 02:26.875 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you want to start. 02:27.616 --> 02:29.677 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I'm in the restaurant industry. 02:30.178 --> 02:31.679 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing it for thirty four years. 02:31.699 --> 02:38.664 [SPEAKER_01]: I was at one company for thirteen years, second company for thirteen years, really just learning. 02:39.585 --> 02:48.928 [SPEAKER_01]: And find for most successful entrepreneurs, it's always advantageous to go and learn in an industry while you're beating paid to learn. 02:48.948 --> 02:51.068 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's better than on paid learning. 02:51.108 --> 02:51.468 [SPEAKER_01]: Totally. 02:51.948 --> 02:54.589 [SPEAKER_01]: And then taking that learning and then going and pursuing your own dreams. 02:54.629 --> 02:57.290 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we did at Marty B's in two thousand seventeen. 02:58.250 --> 03:13.868 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... we opened in seventeen uh... we put everything we had ever worked for a whole lot into this business uh... and had total faith that it was going to work and we just felt like god uh... presents and his provision was over us uh... throughout the process we never doubted it in 03:14.649 --> 03:17.270 [SPEAKER_01]: Fortunately, we opened and the customer showed up. 03:17.310 --> 03:18.050 [SPEAKER_01]: Very excited. 03:18.670 --> 03:29.432 [SPEAKER_01]: And then from two thousand seventeen to today of open nine restaurants, total and we're in a number of different offerings. 03:29.472 --> 03:32.833 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got steakhouse, eighteen, forty-five. 03:32.853 --> 03:34.613 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a woodvard grill, a rustic hoe. 03:35.133 --> 03:43.195 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got coffee, ice cream, we've got it to go catering business, hardy beasts to go, we've got marty bees, brandables, cactus canyan, 03:44.015 --> 03:48.559 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we opened up a second coffee shop in Great Bonds. 03:48.679 --> 03:49.039 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 03:49.880 --> 03:50.960 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's getting it. 03:51.461 --> 03:53.242 [SPEAKER_01]: Working in the food business is amazing. 03:53.322 --> 03:56.345 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, ninety eight percent of the time. 03:56.385 --> 03:59.227 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say if it sometimes it turns into work. 03:59.387 --> 04:01.188 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sometimes I love it. 04:01.408 --> 04:01.909 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, Eric. 04:03.293 --> 04:04.694 [SPEAKER_00]: So I love this topic. 04:05.815 --> 04:08.337 [SPEAKER_00]: If you put up with it, we get out of the full four hour. 04:08.557 --> 04:10.939 [SPEAKER_00]: Joe Rogan interview. 04:11.079 --> 04:12.300 [SPEAKER_00]: I could talk about this all day. 04:12.320 --> 04:19.285 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't tell you this, but Marty B's was a part of the recruitment vehicle to get us here to text section. 04:19.305 --> 04:23.068 [SPEAKER_00]: When we came out for our visit, it was like, this is what you're in store for. 04:25.510 --> 04:27.432 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've been trying to figure this out. 04:27.672 --> 04:36.098 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably since I was like seven, eight, like running a limited stand and just saw the impact that the business could have. 04:36.178 --> 04:47.127 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's been a passion of mine grew up California, moved to Seattle, was working for one of those, you know, biggest companies in the world with their own moral point of view. 04:48.227 --> 05:04.255 [SPEAKER_00]: did that for for eighteen years and really had this passion for how can I lean in deeper and how can we do more and came up with this idea of wanting to start companies with the intent of giving their profits to ministries into into non-profits. 05:04.335 --> 05:12.780 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we started a consulting company, it's management consulting focused on helping tech companies accelerate through partnerships. 05:13.840 --> 05:20.342 [SPEAKER_00]: And we've set up a second company that's focused on just building a portfolio that's going to give a hundred percent of the the profit away. 05:20.722 --> 05:21.182 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 05:21.822 --> 05:22.742 [SPEAKER_00]: So there you go. 05:22.822 --> 05:24.723 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we want you when did you start that? 05:25.403 --> 05:37.506 [SPEAKER_00]: So we started both right in the middle of the twenty twenty so right in the middle of the pandemic everything's going on and we're like God feels this like it's time to step out like really God now and you know it's you 05:38.947 --> 05:42.050 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, working for, you know, a big company like that. 05:42.110 --> 05:50.738 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot to building up your sponsors that you have and, you know, your brand within the company becomes something you invest in. 05:50.798 --> 05:55.022 [SPEAKER_00]: So pretty hard to take the leap, hard to do that during the pandemic. 05:55.542 --> 05:57.764 [SPEAKER_00]: But God's been so, so faithful. 05:57.784 --> 06:00.086 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been such a good faith building exercise system. 06:00.787 --> 06:01.247 [SPEAKER_02]: I love that. 06:02.028 --> 06:12.234 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you, I'll come back to you, Marty, how do you, or how have you gone about kind of integrating your love for the Lord, his scripture, all that into the work? 06:12.274 --> 06:20.579 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm thinking in two layers, I'm thinking about, I think I know how you do that forward facing, and I'd love for you to talk about that. 06:21.739 --> 06:28.763 [SPEAKER_02]: But then even more internally as you think employees and I mean you employ a lot of people, a lot of young people. 06:28.783 --> 06:37.287 [SPEAKER_02]: How have you integrated your faith both internally and externally when it comes to the restaurant business? 06:39.654 --> 06:42.597 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, we've lived in the community for twenty three years. 06:43.278 --> 06:45.520 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been attending the village for seventeen of those. 06:46.161 --> 06:48.783 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, so faith always been a big part of our life. 06:48.884 --> 06:51.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And so when we opened up the restaurant, you know, 06:54.831 --> 07:02.640 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're a person of faith and you're an active person of faith, you know, hopefully your outward behavior becomes an inward reflection of your heart. 07:03.221 --> 07:06.986 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I felt like God's gifted me with the spirit of hospitality. 07:07.686 --> 07:11.791 [SPEAKER_01]: And so when we started hiring people, we'd basically say we want to hire people that have heart. 07:12.452 --> 07:13.353 [SPEAKER_01]: and compassion. 07:14.193 --> 07:27.540 [SPEAKER_01]: And from there, I didn't, Matt, I don't really know that I thought a whole lot about it until probably a couple of years after I opened that faith was going to be as big of a part of our business as it has become. 07:28.341 --> 07:39.767 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it would just opportunities that get presented to us, but people often ask, well, how do I start implementing faith into my business? 07:41.808 --> 07:55.918 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say number one, I think you have to be very thoughtful about that because if you've been running your business and it maybe doesn't reflect, you know, the way that God would have us run our business, I think you might consider getting some some counsel on that. 07:56.239 --> 08:02.263 [SPEAKER_01]: There's an organization, Dallas called Persolibody and they go and they defend religious freedom cases all across the country. 08:02.663 --> 08:04.125 [SPEAKER_01]: Have a very good relationship with them. 08:04.965 --> 08:08.147 [SPEAKER_01]: And just, you know, get wise counsel on that. 08:08.187 --> 08:09.947 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, for me, we did just little things. 08:09.967 --> 08:13.089 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we from the very beginning, we played Christian music on Sundays. 08:13.129 --> 08:16.250 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been very serious about that and do it every Sunday. 08:16.270 --> 08:20.392 [SPEAKER_01]: Your app rope and I put this big ten foot cross on my stage. 08:20.853 --> 08:21.333 [SPEAKER_01]: It's there. 08:21.473 --> 08:22.253 [SPEAKER_01]: It's every day. 08:22.493 --> 08:23.074 [SPEAKER_01]: It's present. 08:23.194 --> 08:24.835 [SPEAKER_01]: It's part of our culture there. 08:25.455 --> 08:29.297 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then three years ago, we started doing the man's Bible breakfast. 08:30.217 --> 08:32.739 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's grown organically. 08:32.779 --> 08:37.603 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we all introduce the women's novel breakfast, you know, the spring. 08:37.623 --> 08:39.505 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's just been incredible. 08:39.545 --> 08:43.247 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've now have, he's a couple hundred men and I'm in the novel breakfast. 08:43.267 --> 08:43.808 [SPEAKER_01]: You've spoke. 08:43.848 --> 08:44.228 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. 08:45.469 --> 08:46.930 [SPEAKER_01]: And then our women's novel breakfast. 08:46.950 --> 08:48.271 [SPEAKER_01]: She easily has three to four hundred. 08:49.332 --> 08:58.136 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but often tell our staff, you know, our faith is not in so much in what we say is and what we do, you know, we talk about preaching the Bible, but not in what we say. 08:58.257 --> 08:58.437 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 08:58.757 --> 09:16.886 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so, um, hospitality is really, you know, to me, a really, uh, defining point of our faith and, you know, part of our whole foundation of our minced Bible study is being able to equip the men that attend there to be able to live out our faith in our daily life, not just check the box on Sunday at you. 09:17.506 --> 09:20.008 [SPEAKER_01]: alluded to earlier and being able to do that. 09:20.088 --> 09:27.054 [SPEAKER_01]: And so Sunday when I come to church, I'm celebrating all the things we've done throughout the week that demonstrated our faith and how we lived it out. 09:27.775 --> 09:40.446 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the other thing and wrapping up on this is when we hire any new employee, you know, we're very upfront, just saying, hey, I just want you to know, you know, we're a Christian conservative based organization. 09:41.186 --> 09:44.969 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not perfect, but we do our best to operate our business with biblical principles. 09:45.850 --> 09:51.753 [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll learn pretty quickly if people want to be a part of that part of that part of that culture. 09:52.533 --> 09:58.416 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll always say one of the most loving things we can do is just be honest with our people and give them feedback. 09:59.416 --> 10:07.620 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of been the way we've done it and we've been able to track some really great people for sure as a result. 10:08.120 --> 10:10.621 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when did the, when did the worship night start? 10:10.842 --> 10:11.582 [SPEAKER_02]: What year was that? 10:12.042 --> 10:14.746 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh gosh, I was doing those before COVID. 10:14.906 --> 10:16.328 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say I thought it was. 10:16.368 --> 10:19.351 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in nineteen nineteen somewhere around there. 10:20.413 --> 10:20.653 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 10:21.034 --> 10:21.294 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 10:21.434 --> 10:27.902 [SPEAKER_01]: That was huge blessing, you know, to be able to be able to be able to do those type of things and have the freedoms to do that. 10:28.783 --> 10:29.845 [SPEAKER_01]: It's good to be in Texas. 10:29.965 --> 10:30.746 [SPEAKER_01]: Good to be in Texas. 10:31.407 --> 10:32.307 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys don't even know. 10:32.868 --> 10:33.288 [SPEAKER_00]: We do know. 10:33.348 --> 10:34.188 [SPEAKER_00]: It is so good to be here. 10:34.228 --> 10:34.708 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I know. 10:34.768 --> 10:35.369 [SPEAKER_00]: I do. 10:35.409 --> 10:41.391 [SPEAKER_02]: Personally, you know, I spent time on the West Coast and in the Northwest, but what about you, Eric, how would you answer? 10:41.411 --> 10:46.893 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, how have you integrated your your models a little bit different, so it, but but how talk to us about. 10:48.310 --> 10:59.192 [SPEAKER_00]: So you know, I think that sometimes we don't always recognize, you know, when you're employing people, what a big opportunity you have to have an impact. 10:59.772 --> 11:12.354 [SPEAKER_00]: So we talk a lot about being purpose-driven, you know, we talk about this idea of when we put somebody at a client, you know, we're gonna install somebody who wants to make an impact in lives of others. 11:13.014 --> 11:15.075 [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's purpose-driven for our clients. 11:15.155 --> 11:16.875 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to build lifelong relationships with them. 11:17.795 --> 11:21.198 [SPEAKER_00]: We're really intentional with our team members, and so there's a lot that goes into that. 11:21.258 --> 11:22.258 [SPEAKER_00]: We can talk more about that. 11:22.278 --> 11:33.266 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we have the Ventures model, which is allowed me to be more open in that space about, hey, this part of the business is something where we're just going to really lean in. 11:33.587 --> 11:42.913 [SPEAKER_00]: We've chosen this area of human trafficking, and so that's there that most people can agree that it's good for us to invest time and dollars. 11:43.894 --> 11:56.398 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I think this idea of being, you know, passionate about impacting people is where I would encourage people to and that's, you know, coming from maybe a previous work environment where people are like, you know, you're a little over the top like you were like that cross. 11:56.918 --> 11:59.879 [SPEAKER_00]: You put a little Bible verse on your desk like, what do you trying to say to me? 12:00.519 --> 12:02.079 [SPEAKER_00]: This is too much for me. 12:02.099 --> 12:04.180 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, and so I think 12:05.000 --> 12:16.148 [SPEAKER_00]: But all of us can lean in because if you're whether it's, you know, hey, you're just you have a boss and you can impact your boss or you have a leadership opportunity. 12:16.829 --> 12:21.832 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think all of us can relate to there's a huge opportunity to just how do I show up with the people that are on me. 12:22.013 --> 12:22.193 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 12:22.893 --> 12:26.316 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just kind of every day faithfulness is what you're getting at. 12:27.721 --> 12:35.185 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the, I think that we kind of do a disservice. 12:35.765 --> 12:45.871 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we, a lot of times we want to look at business and we want to just, you know, assume that actually the ambition should be like it should be about numbers and prophets. 12:46.811 --> 12:48.092 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we kind of sanitize it. 12:48.132 --> 12:53.435 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember being in meeting with, you know, an HR leader, not my organization, but prior to this, 12:54.375 --> 13:07.731 [SPEAKER_00]: and they're asking about what's going on and I'm like, hey, you got one guy he's on a special medication and you got another person is, you know, wife just went into rehab and you got this, you know, other person over here and dad passed away and they're like, you shouldn't know that. 13:09.957 --> 13:17.940 [SPEAKER_00]: And they were legit concerned about the legal liability of knowing that that was going on in the organization. 13:17.960 --> 13:30.604 [SPEAKER_00]: I think actually that in the same way that you're looking at how can I set people free and align them to live what God's calling them to? 13:30.624 --> 13:33.625 [SPEAKER_00]: In a business, I want somebody to be excellent. 13:35.305 --> 13:39.488 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's the same thing of, you know, how do I help them work through their pride? 13:39.508 --> 13:42.370 [SPEAKER_00]: And how do I help them work through, you know, this wound? 13:42.410 --> 13:47.233 [SPEAKER_00]: How do I help them, you know, and so it's being in the trenches and then those create the moments, right? 13:47.293 --> 13:52.997 [SPEAKER_00]: Where you're praying for somebody every day as their, you know, mom goes through cancer. 13:53.037 --> 13:53.457 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 13:54.418 --> 13:54.758 [SPEAKER_02]: I love it. 13:55.559 --> 14:01.603 [SPEAKER_02]: I can get a sense at times from evangelical Christians that ambition, profit, 14:03.482 --> 14:12.525 [SPEAKER_02]: success is almost viewed through a negative lens rather than a positive lens. 14:12.605 --> 14:17.427 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'd love to hear your own wrestle with ambition. 14:17.507 --> 14:22.829 [SPEAKER_02]: I've oftentimes said to TBC, listen, I want you in and up run in the company. 14:23.869 --> 14:24.970 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't want you to do it. 14:25.710 --> 14:36.574 [SPEAKER_02]: by sacrificing your soul or your family or your, but I want you to be ambitious for great things in the business world for the glory of the kingdom. 14:36.594 --> 14:39.195 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot because the higher you up, you're in those sea sweet. 14:39.215 --> 14:42.736 [SPEAKER_02]: You have a lot more opportunity to do the kind of things you were just mentioning. 14:43.156 --> 14:44.037 [SPEAKER_02]: Talk a little bit about 14:45.918 --> 14:50.141 [SPEAKER_02]: kind of the marrying of ambition and the kingdom. 14:50.161 --> 15:02.270 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a great John stop quote that I've always loved about ambition where he talks about wherever Christ's name isn't magnified at the highest level. 15:02.330 --> 15:07.614 [SPEAKER_02]: We should be ambitious for every place in space to know him and see him. 15:08.955 --> 15:13.399 [SPEAKER_02]: I can lay that across the business world pretty easily and go, yeah, at every level in every space. 15:13.819 --> 15:18.042 [SPEAKER_02]: We want to, so like you don't get to nine restaurants without ambition. 15:18.443 --> 15:19.644 [SPEAKER_02]: One can kill a guy. 15:20.224 --> 15:21.525 [SPEAKER_02]: So you get to nine. 15:21.705 --> 15:23.547 [SPEAKER_02]: That mean you've been, you've been ambitious. 15:23.587 --> 15:24.467 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got a brand. 15:24.487 --> 15:28.470 [SPEAKER_02]: You've been trying to build it and your, your brands, your name. 15:29.671 --> 15:30.592 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a lot to say. 15:30.712 --> 15:31.493 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my, oh. 15:32.413 --> 15:41.758 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it was, but to my daughter, if you're listening or watching this, Audrey, my oldest worked for Marty at Marty B's once, and she came home and he's like, he isn't tense. 15:42.378 --> 15:44.920 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just said, his name's on the building. 15:45.500 --> 15:51.463 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if it's a terrible experience, someone is saying his name, like Marty's is terrible. 15:51.643 --> 15:52.584 [SPEAKER_02]: That's his name. 15:52.724 --> 15:54.105 [SPEAKER_00]: They're saying his name. 15:54.185 --> 15:55.805 [SPEAKER_00]: So I bet he isn't tense anyway. 15:56.266 --> 15:57.286 [SPEAKER_00]: Talk a little bit about this. 15:57.346 --> 15:58.427 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the branded logos. 15:58.827 --> 16:01.448 [SPEAKER_00]: that you actually mean burn in to them when they become a new employee. 16:01.468 --> 16:02.728 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the part of the house. 16:02.788 --> 16:03.249 [SPEAKER_00]: It was weird. 16:03.349 --> 16:04.289 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 16:04.309 --> 16:04.509 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:04.669 --> 16:04.889 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:05.069 --> 16:05.549 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah. 16:05.689 --> 16:06.590 [SPEAKER_02]: So talk a little bit of it. 16:06.630 --> 16:07.130 [SPEAKER_02]: It's my question. 16:07.170 --> 16:08.310 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it sounds like that. 16:09.531 --> 16:11.211 [SPEAKER_02]: You're in, you're in this for the kingdom. 16:11.251 --> 16:12.292 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the big banner. 16:13.052 --> 16:17.493 [SPEAKER_02]: But you're also both your ambitious men, or you wouldn't have taken the risk. 16:17.513 --> 16:18.894 [SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't have taken the step of faith. 16:18.934 --> 16:20.574 [SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't have started nine. 16:21.055 --> 16:24.756 [SPEAKER_02]: You would have leveraged everything to kick off Marty Bees and then got to nine restaurants. 16:24.776 --> 16:27.977 [SPEAKER_02]: So talk a little bit about the marrying of those two, if you would. 16:28.277 --> 16:32.999 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think at the end of the day, I mean, as long as your ambition is aligned, right? 16:33.039 --> 16:44.906 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I feel like we have purposeful ambition and what we do and it's interesting when we like we had our weekly staff meeting, not staff meeting, our manager meeting today at Marty Bees and 16:45.786 --> 16:47.527 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't really talk about financials. 16:48.228 --> 16:51.890 [SPEAKER_01]: What we talk about, the two things that drive our businesses, how do we make the experience? 16:52.330 --> 16:54.612 [SPEAKER_01]: Amazing for our team, amazing for our customers. 16:55.272 --> 17:01.497 [SPEAKER_01]: And then certainly we want to have a healthy business because having a healthy business allows us to open more restaurants. 17:02.457 --> 17:04.418 [SPEAKER_01]: and be able to be generous back to the community. 17:05.118 --> 17:15.341 [SPEAKER_01]: And so for us, my purpose and my ambition and my drive comes from creating out their opportunities for my team. 17:15.381 --> 17:16.361 [SPEAKER_01]: Because here's what I want to learn. 17:16.381 --> 17:20.323 [SPEAKER_01]: If you have great people in your team, you're not creating opportunities for them. 17:20.843 --> 17:21.583 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to leave. 17:21.603 --> 17:23.464 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to go work for the competition. 17:23.524 --> 17:26.765 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I've just said, well, let the competition be me. 17:26.785 --> 17:30.626 [SPEAKER_01]: Like on four or seven, the greatest competition I have is my restaurants. 17:32.011 --> 17:33.672 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got seven restaurants on this world of seven. 17:33.692 --> 17:34.933 [SPEAKER_02]: It's big problem to have. 17:35.013 --> 17:36.234 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to beat myself. 17:37.435 --> 17:40.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is the intentionality behind uniqueness in each of the brands. 17:41.137 --> 17:41.417 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 17:41.517 --> 17:51.143 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think it's just got to be about the customer experience, the employee experience, then being able to serve the community. 17:51.824 --> 17:56.047 [SPEAKER_01]: Our, our, we really defined our brand by always say, 17:57.168 --> 18:03.054 [SPEAKER_01]: We want people to come into Marty B's, connect with their friends and family and celebrate life. 18:03.474 --> 18:12.783 [SPEAKER_01]: And so our whole purpose behind each brand we build is with that in mind, creating a place for people to come together, celebrate life, connect with friends and family. 18:12.843 --> 18:13.924 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what drives us really. 18:14.685 --> 18:15.806 [SPEAKER_01]: Love it, Eric. 18:17.187 --> 18:20.911 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that this, I forgot what I was going to say. 18:24.638 --> 18:25.722 [SPEAKER_00]: You're asking about ambition. 18:28.211 --> 18:31.654 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think this one comes down to, it just comes down to worship. 18:32.055 --> 18:43.686 [SPEAKER_00]: Like can you, the best things I've ever achieved have been when I've been in that place where like my work was worship and then all the other things start to get out of the way. 18:44.146 --> 18:51.773 [SPEAKER_00]: Like my, my pride starts the other way, my fear starts to get out of the way and it lets you be in that position of being all in. 18:51.933 --> 18:53.174 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we've done some things that have been 18:53.875 --> 18:59.218 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, really aggressive, like you could argue, you know, that we should be like ten times a size. 18:59.238 --> 19:01.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we were like, hey, let's, let's do a CEO summit. 19:02.219 --> 19:08.242 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, let's bring, you know, fifty five leaders together, you know, from across the world and, you know, bring them all. 19:09.042 --> 19:12.664 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you could look at those things like, gosh, like, what's there? 19:13.184 --> 19:19.007 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that we sometimes forget if you're the centerpiece of the organization, like, 19:20.688 --> 19:45.615 [SPEAKER_00]: everything in you that's aligning with God's precepts and you know aligning with holiness you know that's gonna go and build virtue in your business and everything else that's in you that's gonna plant all kinds of other seeds and so I think those are the things that alienate people over time and it's easy to let that stuff creep in because you're tired and you're busted and things are around you you know you have 19:46.295 --> 19:51.539 [SPEAKER_00]: clients maybe that aren't operating with integrity or you've got peers if you're in a big organization. 19:51.560 --> 19:57.745 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think it's just easy in that moment to forget what am I really here? 19:57.805 --> 19:59.266 [SPEAKER_00]: What am I really doing this for? 19:59.766 --> 20:03.570 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you can stay anchored on that, that tends to align and people tend to like, oh, great. 20:03.610 --> 20:04.110 [SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome. 20:04.150 --> 20:05.051 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're going after it. 20:05.071 --> 20:05.891 [SPEAKER_00]: You want to be excellent. 20:06.532 --> 20:09.535 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you let it slip, it becomes, oh, you're trying to build your career. 20:09.555 --> 20:09.955 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:10.015 --> 20:10.175 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 20:10.235 --> 20:10.916 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about you. 20:10.976 --> 20:11.937 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about your brand. 20:12.057 --> 20:12.977 [SPEAKER_00]: You're making selfless. 20:13.478 --> 20:14.379 [SPEAKER_00]: And in a lot of times, that 20:14.959 --> 20:15.659 [SPEAKER_00]: can be true, right? 20:15.699 --> 20:19.600 [SPEAKER_00]: Like those, it can be about you and your brand and your selfish decisions. 20:19.720 --> 20:21.340 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't imagine how it wouldn't creep in. 20:21.380 --> 20:23.581 [SPEAKER_02]: It creeps in everywhere in every domain. 20:24.181 --> 20:32.182 [SPEAKER_02]: So all the more if it's your baby and you, you leverage the house to do it and you took the step of faith when it didn't make sense to it. 20:32.282 --> 20:35.323 [SPEAKER_02]: And then over time, these people have joined, but they didn't leverage their house. 20:35.783 --> 20:37.043 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't take the step of faith. 20:37.423 --> 20:37.943 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't. 20:38.063 --> 20:43.144 [SPEAKER_02]: So I can imagine the pull of that frequently on you. 20:44.200 --> 20:45.420 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel that too, right? 20:46.181 --> 20:50.442 [SPEAKER_01]: The people that are all my team now, her good life now. 20:50.863 --> 20:52.303 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're kind of riding the coat tails. 20:52.423 --> 20:53.844 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to say it any different. 20:53.884 --> 21:09.630 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, so for me, I struggle sometimes with, you know, humility and, you know, but, you know, driving and focused on growing the brand and expanding your business, you know, you have 21:10.390 --> 21:30.102 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably in your case you have a lot of people always saying great message Matt that was awesome great job great, you know, and so in saying same flip same for us We have people telling us how great we are and That can be a very slippery slope and myal point is it whenever one if we don't hear that then we're not doing something right, but we can never bull let that 21:31.555 --> 21:36.901 [SPEAKER_01]: drive our ego to the point that we don't have enough humility to be able to serve our team and serve our customers. 21:38.402 --> 21:43.007 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I found that when you become arrogant, you become disconnected. 21:43.267 --> 21:46.471 [SPEAKER_01]: So, ultimately, I want to try to stay in a for shumble place. 21:47.051 --> 21:48.112 [SPEAKER_01]: Trevor helps me with that. 21:48.293 --> 21:50.194 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Trevor feels like this is called. 21:51.115 --> 21:53.037 [SPEAKER_02]: on most people in his lives. 21:53.057 --> 21:55.499 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, let me help him with some humility. 21:55.559 --> 21:56.079 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, Jeff. 21:57.300 --> 22:16.636 [SPEAKER_02]: So as you're trying to build business, create these spaces, what challenges are kind of unique to, like I think about, I think about you've been very bold, very outspoken, very public facing. 22:17.337 --> 22:27.219 [SPEAKER_02]: We are not, you know, I think people who maybe are from other parts of the country, we're like, you guys are in Texas, everybody's a Christian, but it's just not true and didn't county. 22:27.680 --> 22:30.740 [SPEAKER_02]: It might feel that way, but it certainly is not. 22:32.301 --> 22:35.321 [SPEAKER_02]: And so have you had to navigate 22:37.842 --> 22:53.850 [SPEAKER_02]: How have you maybe tried to navigate hostility or even accusation of favoritism or firing because or not hiring because or whatever when it comes to how your faith is informing your businesses? 22:54.971 --> 22:56.692 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we, we have been very bold. 22:57.132 --> 23:17.443 [SPEAKER_01]: We continue to be very bold and I've had some, you know, some negativity and back we even had a person call and spend twenty minutes with my general manager yesterday because in event we hosted on Sunday and it was a get out the vote event and it was a conservative group that had, you know, signs there that maybe wouldn't for their, what their candidate. 23:17.503 --> 23:17.643 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:19.063 --> 23:20.363 [SPEAKER_01]: But here's what I've learned. 23:20.503 --> 23:27.705 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is that, you know, just because I'm in business that don't mean I get to deny my moral values and, you know, my Christian faith. 23:28.065 --> 23:36.067 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I want it to be more glorified in my business and God created me the way that I did and I have the opportunities because of him. 23:36.867 --> 23:46.169 [SPEAKER_01]: And, and so in the beginning, in fact, it was actually Trevor that gave me this advice because we had an event that got a ton of just whoop. 23:46.929 --> 23:52.696 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean emails, phone calls, text messages, people coming up to the restaurant to approach me. 23:53.577 --> 23:55.679 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was pretty scary. 23:55.859 --> 23:56.020 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:56.060 --> 23:56.760 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie. 23:57.141 --> 24:01.726 [SPEAKER_01]: And I ended up having a meeting with one of the gentlemen that was very angry. 24:02.647 --> 24:03.829 [SPEAKER_01]: And here's what I learned. 24:03.889 --> 24:04.710 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it number one? 24:06.292 --> 24:11.657 [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you feed grows, whatever you listen to also grows. 24:12.458 --> 24:15.441 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I just learned that, you know, I'm going to do the best I can. 24:15.461 --> 24:25.831 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to operate with the good moral compass and just do the best I can and I can't let the negativity of the people who don't appreciate what we do. 24:26.532 --> 24:28.712 [SPEAKER_01]: compromise, how I operate my business. 24:28.993 --> 24:31.893 [SPEAKER_01]: I've said from the beginning, I'm not in business to serve a hundred percent of the people. 24:31.953 --> 24:32.753 [SPEAKER_01]: I somehow desire. 24:33.253 --> 24:38.874 [SPEAKER_01]: My desire is to be able to create an experience for folks that truly appreciate the efforts that we make to serve them. 24:39.935 --> 24:46.396 [SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of businesses will oftentimes try to be everything to everyone. 24:46.456 --> 24:49.397 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's not a very good business model, in my opinion. 24:50.057 --> 24:51.617 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think Jesus said something about that. 24:51.637 --> 24:53.457 [SPEAKER_02]: And fall man praise you or something like that. 24:53.577 --> 24:54.318 [SPEAKER_02]: I've read it somewhere. 24:54.358 --> 24:54.998 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it wouldn't him. 24:55.538 --> 24:56.078 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah. 24:56.998 --> 24:57.599 [SPEAKER_00]: Anything on that? 24:58.580 --> 25:03.663 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I feel like sometimes we got to ride and then sometimes, you know, we just stuck our foot in our mouth. 25:04.684 --> 25:14.912 [SPEAKER_00]: When we were starting out early, it was actually the, our intent with the consulting company was never to only hire Christians, but that was actually the core team that we had. 25:15.652 --> 25:19.395 [SPEAKER_00]: So we had this sort of prayer Mondays where like we would kick off every Monday. 25:19.415 --> 25:34.488 [SPEAKER_00]: I still I still kick off every Monday with my COO and we pray over the business and the in the team But not the entire group and you know, we hired a couple new employees and they're like looking at me sideways and like oh man, all right, we probably didn't like on board. 25:34.528 --> 25:36.990 [SPEAKER_03]: You so good I just joined 25:37.410 --> 25:40.471 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's some things that we haven't gotten right. 25:40.591 --> 25:44.713 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if for sure it's a challenge, if you don't want to, you want to find that balance. 25:44.733 --> 25:48.695 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to alienate people from the things that you're trying to go do. 25:49.996 --> 25:59.440 [SPEAKER_00]: We've anchored a lot in trying to have BA values driven company and have the values be focused on the virtues that we're trying to live out. 26:00.420 --> 26:15.519 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's allowed us to, you know, put an employee in a position where like, yeah, you should always be able to think through, you know, how you're leading, how you're learning, how you're being excellent and how you're being selfless and that should help you to get through, you know, whatever, whatever decision. 26:16.740 --> 26:25.822 [SPEAKER_00]: So we try to anchor on some of that so that you can hold someone accountable to the things that you're trying to align. 26:25.983 --> 26:29.343 [SPEAKER_00]: But you can do it in a very quantified, not subjective. 26:30.524 --> 26:34.325 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, if we're gonna move forward, you should be able to look if you're not excellent. 26:34.785 --> 26:43.187 [SPEAKER_00]: Despite the fact that I love you and you've done a lot of great things, then we're not gonna move forward with whatever we're doing. 26:45.439 --> 26:57.926 [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if you could, the reality is, ninety percent of the people that are listening to this probably aren't sitting in the chair that you guys are sitting in in their workplace where they're, you know, they're doing business right now. 26:58.746 --> 27:12.815 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm wondering if you go back a few years, which might feel like forever, and remember, you know, your thirteen years and thirteen years, remember your time, you know, in the Pacific Northwest and in California where 27:13.695 --> 27:14.896 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not your company. 27:16.677 --> 27:19.359 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not you're not the one going here or values. 27:19.399 --> 27:27.424 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not the one going, you know, we're not trying to serve everybody, but you're actually being handed those things. 27:29.086 --> 27:29.526 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you 27:31.727 --> 27:47.313 [SPEAKER_02]: how do you live out your faith in that environment where like I know where you were I don't think it was hostile towards Christianity but not necessarily a Christian organization yours was probably hostile towards and so how do you 27:48.553 --> 28:02.656 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe say a little bit about how to, if it's not your business, but it's where you work and say a little bit about, how do we integrate our faith into this in a way that's not going to get me fired? 28:03.616 --> 28:11.177 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we've got a guy that I know was very successful and they tried to give him a client that he just morally could not. 28:11.217 --> 28:13.258 [SPEAKER_02]: So there is a time to get fired over something. 28:15.438 --> 28:16.899 [SPEAKER_02]: But you only get fired over everything. 28:17.199 --> 28:30.046 [SPEAKER_02]: And so can you guys talk a little bit about working in secular spaces, whether hostile or just it's not directly a Christian organization, but finding ways to be faithful in those spaces? 28:30.066 --> 28:31.987 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that might be helpful to people listening. 28:33.022 --> 28:33.723 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not easy. 28:34.103 --> 28:39.029 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think you're just, you can end up in these positions sometimes. 28:39.069 --> 28:42.774 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about this, I think in a minute, but, you know, where you get put in a double bind. 28:43.014 --> 28:43.194 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 28:43.475 --> 28:50.843 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, where it's the, hey, you either need to do this thing to your employee or I'm going to do this thing to you and you choose. 28:51.304 --> 28:51.825 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:51.965 --> 28:52.265 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, 28:53.426 --> 29:00.029 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I always found that like one, you know, it takes an incredible sense of, you know, integrity. 29:00.609 --> 29:04.011 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there's a lot in wanting to do your best work. 29:04.591 --> 29:06.912 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, there's a boldness that can come with that. 29:07.052 --> 29:08.953 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's, that's reward over time. 29:09.653 --> 29:13.455 [SPEAKER_00]: But it can be, it can be costly, you know, as well as you lean in. 29:13.495 --> 29:13.715 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, 29:14.415 --> 29:25.288 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that if you kind of equate to, okay, if I know I'm going to be in some of those really, really hard or what feel like impossible situations, then that's where you have to be rooted. 29:25.308 --> 29:31.596 [SPEAKER_00]: If you have to be grounded in, you know, God, what is it that you have for me, you know, today? 29:31.816 --> 29:31.976 [SPEAKER_00]: Right? 29:32.256 --> 29:32.897 [SPEAKER_00]: The ten minute. 29:33.798 --> 29:39.906 [SPEAKER_00]: prayer that I try to fit in after my workout, how my desk like that might not be sufficient. 29:40.587 --> 29:47.997 [SPEAKER_00]: It might take an hour for me to get to the point where I can actually be grounded enough to handle, you know, what's in front of me for the day. 29:49.158 --> 29:49.378 [SPEAKER_01]: Good. 29:50.038 --> 29:52.299 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's, that's a great question. 29:53.580 --> 30:04.104 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I have the perfect answer, but you know, I think you have to have a level of maturity in your faith to be able to encounter, you know, those type of issues if you're in a, in a business. 30:04.524 --> 30:07.625 [SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, a lot of it ebs and flows with culture, right? 30:07.925 --> 30:10.746 [SPEAKER_01]: It can even evane flow with, who's in the White House, right? 30:10.786 --> 30:12.727 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, based on all the things that are coming down. 30:12.787 --> 30:14.208 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, um, 30:15.448 --> 30:27.294 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the thing I would suggest on something like that, when I was in an executive leadership position in my previous company, I would pray with my managers. 30:27.794 --> 30:29.015 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't tell anybody I was doing. 30:29.035 --> 30:29.635 [SPEAKER_01]: I just would do it. 30:29.655 --> 30:34.057 [SPEAKER_01]: If they were going through a hard time, and I felt like they needed prayer, I would just pray with them. 30:34.858 --> 30:38.399 [SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't always, sometimes it would backfire on me. 30:39.220 --> 30:43.202 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, oh, well, you're supposed to be a Christian, you know, and so, you know, you risk that. 30:44.482 --> 30:58.326 [SPEAKER_01]: But I just said this the other day, but you know, if you've really got a deep commitment to your faith and what's happening in your workplace, just really is really starting to kind of nug, tug on your heart. 30:58.386 --> 31:05.167 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a lot of great organizations out there that have really good culture and they have their heart in the right place. 31:05.247 --> 31:10.969 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, sometimes God makes us feel that way because he's saying, hey, you probably should or she should probably 31:11.889 --> 31:12.749 [SPEAKER_01]: find something else. 31:12.769 --> 31:12.949 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 31:13.610 --> 31:19.292 [SPEAKER_01]: And in the world we live in the day, you can pretty much, if you want to work, you can make money doing anything, right? 31:20.352 --> 31:22.193 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, not everybody's meant to be an entrepreneur. 31:22.593 --> 31:27.934 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a lot of people that make great employees and add value in a lot of other ways. 31:28.015 --> 31:37.838 [SPEAKER_01]: But, um, yeah, that would always felt like when I was having those challenges, I would seek wise counsel, someone that's farther down, lies road than me. 31:38.058 --> 31:38.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 31:38.498 --> 31:39.819 [SPEAKER_01]: Help me kind of navigate that. 31:40.519 --> 31:40.859 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 31:41.579 --> 31:44.720 [SPEAKER_02]: These are the two that I try to talk about quite a bit. 31:45.100 --> 32:10.226 [SPEAKER_02]: One, for the most part, it's not certainly I'm not laying this across everyone's experience as universally true, but for the most part, offering to pray with people and for people is usually a pretty safe bet, where like I learned a long time ago, I rarely want to ask the question 32:10.806 --> 32:11.546 [SPEAKER_02]: How you doing then? 32:12.927 --> 32:22.250 [SPEAKER_02]: But I will try to pick up on and then make a more kind of, hey, you look a little rundown today, are you tires everything okay? 32:22.870 --> 32:27.972 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I have found by approaching it that way, or you look upset, or you seem easily 32:29.012 --> 32:30.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, is everything okay? 32:30.434 --> 32:50.132 [SPEAKER_02]: You just responded there in a way that it seemed like you were spring-loaded by kind of approaching it that way, especially when I'm around a bunch of non-believers that people have been quick to let me in on exactly what's bothering them, which has then given me the opportunity to say, man, I would love to 32:51.013 --> 32:51.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Man, that sounds awful. 32:52.054 --> 32:52.795 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sorry. 32:52.815 --> 32:54.276 [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to pray for you about that. 32:54.296 --> 32:55.397 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you okay if I pray with you? 32:55.917 --> 32:58.079 [SPEAKER_02]: And we can do it now, or I can just pray by myself. 32:58.199 --> 33:02.203 [SPEAKER_02]: And the majority of time of their unbelievers, they just want me to go pray for them by myself. 33:02.263 --> 33:04.605 [SPEAKER_02]: But that's been it. 33:04.705 --> 33:12.551 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I just think like because I'll get asked questions by nature of my position, they shouldn't be asking me. 33:13.940 --> 33:19.363 [SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that is I have no idea about the details or culture of the environment you're in. 33:19.383 --> 33:23.686 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to get you fired if you don't want to get fired. 33:24.246 --> 33:34.772 [SPEAKER_02]: But like I said, there's a guy you both know this guy basically is very successful in his company tries to hand him porn up as a client and he's like, well. 33:35.239 --> 33:38.082 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, they're like, no, no, no, you're our guy for this. 33:38.142 --> 33:41.266 [SPEAKER_02]: We want you and he's like, no, I won't do it. 33:41.806 --> 33:47.232 [SPEAKER_02]: And so for him, there was this clear, like, no, I'm getting, this is, I will get fired over this. 33:47.592 --> 33:51.817 [SPEAKER_02]: This to me is, you're going to fire me because I'm not going to do it. 33:53.339 --> 33:56.121 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you ask me that, then I'll help you get fired. 33:56.781 --> 34:17.337 [SPEAKER_02]: But to have a group of people that you're in close community with that kind of know a bit about where you're working and what it's like and because I do believe God will have you stay at a hard place for a long time to be salt and light in that place and then 34:18.037 --> 34:22.859 [SPEAKER_02]: the shrewdness of how you approach that, or how you go about that, I think matters. 34:23.500 --> 34:33.204 [SPEAKER_02]: And so to talk to someone's either been in the game longer or another Christian at the company that's kind of doing it in subversive ways, all that super important. 34:34.865 --> 34:42.509 [SPEAKER_02]: And so those are the two areas I tend to like usually offering to pray for people is not gonna get you in a ton of trouble. 34:42.969 --> 34:44.970 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, but usually not. 34:45.590 --> 34:46.611 [SPEAKER_00]: I did not get fired for that. 34:47.311 --> 34:52.393 [SPEAKER_00]: So on campus on campus in the in the little focus rooms. 34:52.533 --> 34:53.353 [SPEAKER_00]: Delia the beast. 34:53.693 --> 34:59.015 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought there was some moments where I'm like, okay, this might be what I get fired over. 34:59.055 --> 35:02.096 [SPEAKER_02]: So I was just out in Palo Alto. 35:02.376 --> 35:09.278 [SPEAKER_02]: I was on the book tour and we were basically in Fremont, but you know, it's just right across the bridge from Palo Alto and a woman at our church. 35:10.018 --> 35:27.547 [SPEAKER_02]: She works for a company based out of there and she wanted to invite her co-workers to the church service the night before and then the book event and then she was just not like literally wasn't sure if she would get fired for that or not and so she came to me and she's like, should I post it? 35:27.567 --> 35:28.048 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what? 35:28.488 --> 35:30.889 [SPEAKER_02]: Why would you post it if you're gonna get fired for posting it? 35:30.969 --> 35:35.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the Lord's placed you in this company to be salt and light in the ways that 35:36.432 --> 35:49.176 [SPEAKER_02]: He wants, so unless you're telling me convictionally, you feel like the spirits telling you to do this, I'm saying on a wisdom level, I think it's not a good use of your spiritual capital there at this company. 35:49.196 --> 36:06.062 [SPEAKER_02]: And it occurred to me, oh man, I don't, I don't know anything about that environment where just inviting somebody to a church function could get you fired because this is a well-known conservative church in that area, which to that area means they hate gay people and today, you know, are racist. 36:06.622 --> 36:06.842 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:07.002 --> 36:11.907 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think unfortunately, like that's the, that's the challenge, right? 36:11.967 --> 36:14.389 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it people feel condemned? 36:14.949 --> 36:22.996 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think where you, where you went is right, which is you can go pretty far if people feel like it's authentic care. 36:23.016 --> 36:23.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:23.397 --> 36:31.964 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, that's the, like, it what's the, the number one thing that's going to be the lever is like how authentic are you and actually caring about that person. 36:32.004 --> 36:32.445 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what 36:32.825 --> 36:36.848 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to create those opportunities where they're going to enter in where they're not going to feel offended. 36:37.589 --> 36:51.299 [SPEAKER_00]: We had all kinds of friends with all kinds of different views and they sat in our living room and if we had conversations and the reason that those relationships endured was like that, that was what they were. 36:52.140 --> 36:56.184 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that was what they were feeling approach with versus versus combination. 36:56.204 --> 37:01.909 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's the same thing by the way with like my consulting clients like they'll let me push them harder if they think I'm caring about them. 37:02.750 --> 37:07.514 [SPEAKER_00]: So sometimes I think we kind of forget how simple of a principle. 37:07.534 --> 37:16.181 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's not that hard to take a step to lean in, to be intentional with somebody and all we have to start with is, you know, really wanting to see good things for them. 37:16.262 --> 37:16.482 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 37:16.982 --> 37:44.695 [SPEAKER_02]: being curious about their lives and I've just learned in the spaces I'm in that are predominantly non-believing spaces just like the men that have been able to baptize over the years or you know begin to disciple over the years it all started with a curiosity in me about what the Lord put in there who are they where they coming from what his life looked for them and that that that has allowed me to say some 37:45.835 --> 37:57.700 [SPEAKER_02]: harsh, but loving things, men who aren't yet Christians, who just knew because of time spent and moving towards a genuinely cared about them, and I'm not trying to be about whole. 37:59.101 --> 38:05.364 [SPEAKER_00]: We make evangelism into this big giant scary thing, because it feels like that in one of those environments where you're like, 38:06.264 --> 38:08.586 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get, you know, that's a fireable fence. 38:09.607 --> 38:16.874 [SPEAKER_00]: And really, you know, it's just, do I care a little bit enough to ask somebody to go get beers after work? 38:17.114 --> 38:18.275 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 38:18.435 --> 38:19.596 [SPEAKER_02]: It's wild that it's that simple. 38:20.197 --> 38:21.338 [SPEAKER_02]: It's wild that it's that simple. 38:22.578 --> 38:25.419 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk a little bit about kind of alignment. 38:26.820 --> 38:37.604 [SPEAKER_02]: The idea, whether we're talking business or church, we have a tendency to drift from kind of the vision God gave us in the beginning. 38:38.325 --> 38:48.689 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you just see this even with the, you know, God's people throughout the scriptures that just can't seem to remember what the Lord did, how He did it, how He brought it about. 38:49.249 --> 39:09.990 [SPEAKER_02]: What are ways that you guys, if we're talking about Marty's nine restaurants now, I have to believe that running one restaurant is a lot different than running nine and maintaining culture in one restaurant is a lot more, you know, is a lot easier than doing it across nine 39:11.251 --> 39:14.293 [SPEAKER_02]: What are ways that you watch and pay attention to? 39:14.533 --> 39:18.014 [SPEAKER_02]: Here, we still aligned around the things we said we were going to align around. 39:18.394 --> 39:24.997 [SPEAKER_02]: And the first, and if you can remember a time or sense of time where you just could see it drifting a little bit and caught it, and that might be helpful. 39:25.460 --> 39:40.961 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it Peter Drucker who said culture each strategy for breakfast and you know if you don't have good culture you really don't have a good organization and often said that you know the three I say the three things that I feel like gives Marty B's the 39:41.621 --> 39:47.004 [SPEAKER_01]: energy that it does, it's selection, it's who we are, it's truth and it's accountability. 39:47.785 --> 39:55.829 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I've often said if you've got a culture problem, you have a truth and accountability problem. 39:56.450 --> 40:02.093 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you have truth but no accountability then there's no magic there either. 40:02.713 --> 40:02.974 [SPEAKER_01]: Right? 40:03.014 --> 40:10.338 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think for me, I mean nowadays you have so much feedback you've got social media. 40:10.798 --> 40:13.181 [SPEAKER_01]: You get feedback on your business, continually. 40:13.701 --> 40:20.809 [SPEAKER_01]: Not only from your team, from the public, I just happen to be in a business that's very public. 40:20.849 --> 40:22.931 [SPEAKER_01]: People are driving by our restaurants all the time. 40:22.951 --> 40:26.555 [SPEAKER_01]: They see the traffic there and all the businesses. 40:26.575 --> 40:27.876 [SPEAKER_01]: They see us on social media. 40:28.056 --> 40:29.237 [SPEAKER_01]: We're very public, right? 40:30.038 --> 40:31.199 [SPEAKER_01]: And that can be good and bad. 40:32.039 --> 40:54.153 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel like when I walk into my business, I can detect the heartbeat of the organization pretty quickly, just in kind of detecting the morale and the attitude of the team, our managers, you know, so each night they write in their this log and it kind of recaps every manager writes a recap of the shift and I can learn so much just by reading that. 40:55.333 --> 40:58.715 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you know, having weekly meetings and being able to have 40:59.816 --> 41:01.957 [SPEAKER_01]: open dialogue with the team. 41:02.358 --> 41:09.122 [SPEAKER_01]: Like today, we finished the meeting earlier in Matt, who's my general manager, Marty Beez, you know, Matt said, is there anything anybody wants to talk about? 41:09.142 --> 41:11.603 [SPEAKER_01]: Did anything somebody wants to comment on? 41:12.103 --> 41:14.525 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I think it's good to ask those questions, right? 41:14.585 --> 41:20.649 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you, like Eric said, you got to be genuine about it. 41:20.889 --> 41:25.692 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got to feel like they have to feel like you really are genuinely listening. 41:26.372 --> 41:29.894 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and so people go, how do you go and spend your day in your restaurant? 41:29.914 --> 41:35.516 [SPEAKER_01]: So I go, well, I don't ever want to go and do any of my restaurants run out of available to connect with the team, right? 41:35.996 --> 41:38.278 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone communicates view connect, right? 41:38.358 --> 41:45.461 [SPEAKER_01]: So being able to connect and just kind of detect the heartbeat of that individual business is critical. 41:45.621 --> 41:45.761 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:46.522 --> 41:57.291 [SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, having people on our team that can carry out the vision, you know, that speak the same language, respond the same way, honoring our team, honoring our customers. 41:57.311 --> 41:59.913 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably is very critical. 42:00.093 --> 42:00.273 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:00.673 --> 42:04.897 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, but one thing about me is that I get to be in all my businesses. 42:05.237 --> 42:05.437 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:05.497 --> 42:10.882 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, if I've had a business in LA or New York, it's really hard to manage culture. 42:11.202 --> 42:11.602 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is. 42:11.683 --> 42:18.608 [SPEAKER_01]: When you're five hour plane right away, I can more easily detect culture when I'm in the business as I see it. 42:18.669 --> 42:19.089 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel it. 42:19.189 --> 42:19.669 [SPEAKER_01]: I touch it. 42:19.870 --> 42:20.050 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 42:20.190 --> 42:21.651 [SPEAKER_01]: I see the people down the floor. 42:21.711 --> 42:22.692 [SPEAKER_01]: I see the customers. 42:23.453 --> 42:23.693 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:24.382 --> 42:26.743 [SPEAKER_02]: How long till you think they rename that? 42:27.003 --> 42:29.143 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, is that gonna be Marty's Boulevard? 42:29.823 --> 42:34.264 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think after seven years, the town actually start starting to like me. 42:35.225 --> 42:37.805 [SPEAKER_02]: And pull me so I'm not pressing a look on name. 42:38.306 --> 42:38.866 [SPEAKER_02]: Give them time. 42:38.906 --> 42:39.606 [SPEAKER_02]: They'll come around. 42:40.066 --> 42:42.467 [SPEAKER_02]: Just hate new others, stuff in their face with your food. 42:42.527 --> 42:43.287 [SPEAKER_02]: That's funny to me. 42:44.487 --> 42:44.987 [SPEAKER_02]: What about you? 42:45.347 --> 42:46.708 [SPEAKER_02]: Was you like alignment? 42:46.748 --> 42:51.969 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you make sure we're not drifting away from really that kind of thing that the Lord first put in your heart and head? 42:53.269 --> 43:02.476 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think, you know, I had a manager early on that, you know, he was trying to describe why he liked being a manager and he kept talking about like, I like to create these spaces. 43:03.196 --> 43:12.523 [SPEAKER_00]: He can almost picture like a little bubble, you know, where in his case he's working in giant company and he's like, okay, the giant company is chaotic, but this is an amazing place. 43:13.344 --> 43:16.707 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I think, you know, sometimes we as leaders 43:17.387 --> 43:23.272 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't think about the fact that like most people don't leave companies, most people leave managers. 43:24.132 --> 43:31.078 [SPEAKER_00]: And so there's this fantastic opportunity, like culture, I don't just look at culture and say like culture is important. 43:31.118 --> 43:37.062 [SPEAKER_00]: Like culture is what is gonna make an impact on those people's lives. 43:37.082 --> 43:38.964 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like an amazing place to work with, amazing manager. 43:38.984 --> 43:41.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Like how many people today are like praying for that? 43:41.526 --> 43:43.587 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what they, that's what they want. 43:44.308 --> 43:49.593 [SPEAKER_00]: And so in our business, we're transforming companies on these kind of one to three year engagements. 43:49.653 --> 43:51.876 [SPEAKER_00]: And so there's a lot of friction. 43:52.036 --> 43:53.277 [SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to change a company. 43:53.297 --> 43:54.939 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's some dark days that come in. 43:56.100 --> 44:05.109 [SPEAKER_00]: So one thing we started doing was we actually started serving and assessing every employee on our values every month. 44:05.729 --> 44:06.590 [SPEAKER_00]: And so we're having that. 44:06.610 --> 44:06.890 [SPEAKER_00]: Monthly. 44:07.130 --> 44:07.370 [SPEAKER_00]: Monthly. 44:07.390 --> 44:08.271 [SPEAKER_00]: We're having that dialogue. 44:08.311 --> 44:09.472 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you living out the values? 44:09.512 --> 44:10.933 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, does that look like what are the areas? 44:10.953 --> 44:11.714 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what I saw. 44:11.734 --> 44:12.955 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what a line. 44:13.035 --> 44:14.055 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what didn't line. 44:15.056 --> 44:19.440 [SPEAKER_00]: Then we do a company survey that's more about how it's leadership, you know, living out the values. 44:20.320 --> 44:21.381 [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's just been helpful. 44:21.421 --> 44:22.442 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, you know, we're not. 44:23.062 --> 44:25.785 [SPEAKER_00]: We can't be in the place like my company. 44:25.825 --> 44:28.507 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't just tell you what you're going to be in a Christian. 44:29.567 --> 44:34.711 [SPEAKER_00]: But we're going to line on these values that are lining with the virtues that we're trying to do. 44:35.592 --> 44:39.574 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you have to be thoughtful about things like, you know, the hard leadership things. 44:39.654 --> 44:44.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, I'm going to sit down with the client, you know, after every engagement, what can I learn, what you can get better. 44:45.037 --> 44:52.542 [SPEAKER_00]: And man, the amount of things I've learned, you know, from, you know, kind of other like our client CEOs, super helpful. 44:53.562 --> 45:18.337 [SPEAKER_00]: with the last thing I'll say and I think this is one then we kind of forget like when we go into the workplace like we take Christ with us yeah and I was reading a book I think it was the authority of believer but it was just talking about like the power of prayer that you take with you yeah um and I was just like I'm gonna try this out like I've got some stuff going on more organization I've got you know a client that's 45:19.378 --> 45:41.472 [SPEAKER_00]: doing weird things and you know I've got you know maybe an employee that's just you know spending like I'm just gonna actually you know walk and I'm gonna declare some things I just blown away I got to end of my week and I was like the environment that the atmosphere feels different you know in that little and that little bubble so you know that and then the practical thing is like when you get that right 45:42.573 --> 45:47.079 [SPEAKER_00]: like that environment just fostered. 45:47.139 --> 45:53.006 [SPEAKER_00]: I was working in that big company and I would hire my next hire within an hour of my last hire. 45:53.026 --> 45:55.189 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the easiest time I had there. 45:58.973 --> 46:00.955 [SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't me that made it easy. 46:00.975 --> 46:04.598 [SPEAKER_00]: It was actually the culture was so strong that they want to come work there. 46:04.638 --> 46:07.139 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to work there, the bad people didn't want to be in the culture. 46:07.920 --> 46:12.904 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, I mean, there's just these practical benefits of doing these things they got as call of us too. 46:13.685 --> 46:22.591 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the reality is like there's a bunch of wisdom in that book and when you live it out, like, it does actually make your steps easier. 46:23.740 --> 46:25.041 [SPEAKER_01]: Matt, I was going to comment on one thing. 46:25.641 --> 46:28.384 [SPEAKER_01]: You talked about running one versus running more than one. 46:28.444 --> 46:32.847 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's in most entrepreneurs and most businesses. 46:33.467 --> 46:39.612 [SPEAKER_01]: What they did to make one business successful does requires a lot different skill than to make multiple business successful. 46:39.672 --> 46:42.454 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think you have to do it like a little internal audit. 46:42.874 --> 46:44.696 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, what are the things I'm really gifted at? 46:45.116 --> 46:45.897 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of things. 46:45.997 --> 46:46.877 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not great at. 46:46.918 --> 46:47.098 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 46:47.678 --> 46:51.760 [SPEAKER_01]: a lot more than things I'm good at, but at least know that about myself. 46:51.820 --> 46:57.762 [SPEAKER_01]: And so if I'm being critical of, you know, my weaknesses, I'm not like an amazing administrator. 46:58.362 --> 47:06.425 [SPEAKER_01]: But I've had people join my team that are really good at keeping us organized, keeping us profitable, you know, maintaining good systems and that. 47:07.165 --> 47:10.968 [SPEAKER_01]: My giftedness is food, environment, and culture. 47:11.468 --> 47:15.090 [SPEAKER_01]: I love creating the brand, I love creating the space, I love creating the food. 47:16.591 --> 47:18.232 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what really drives me. 47:18.252 --> 47:29.220 [SPEAKER_01]: So having people on team that allow me to focus on things only, I should be doing has been a gift from my business and for my team. 47:29.340 --> 47:30.660 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you've got a 47:31.901 --> 47:34.042 [SPEAKER_02]: This is probably an important aspect. 47:34.542 --> 47:41.445 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know you a lot better than I know you Eric, but like you you just have a like you just know who you are. 47:43.206 --> 47:49.268 [SPEAKER_02]: And and know like this is what you put me anywhere and this is what's going to happen. 47:50.969 --> 47:54.512 [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't, I have not experienced you as having the pride of going. 47:54.652 --> 47:58.074 [SPEAKER_02]: So I have to have to be seen as more than that. 47:59.315 --> 48:01.457 [SPEAKER_02]: It's always experienced you as Marty. 48:01.917 --> 48:02.177 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 48:02.397 --> 48:05.920 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I mean, you just hang out with you in any environment. 48:06.400 --> 48:15.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Scott loves hospitality, loves good food, he loves beauty, he loves a good time, and I think people feel that when they're around you. 48:16.108 --> 48:26.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I think where I think business guys can get themselves in trouble is where pastors can get themselves in trouble too, which is I've got to be all of it. 48:27.797 --> 48:30.078 [SPEAKER_02]: And I've got to be strong enough to be all of it. 48:30.318 --> 48:45.944 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you're doing a lot of little things really poorly that are leading to all sorts of pain points now in the organization where that organization is a business or a church or even a family system at your house in your home. 48:46.164 --> 48:51.826 [SPEAKER_02]: And so like a knowledge of self, maybe especially in business. 48:51.846 --> 48:53.147 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think really across the 48:54.605 --> 49:01.288 [SPEAKER_02]: The panorama of life is super important where guys will try to be more than human. 49:01.308 --> 49:08.552 [SPEAKER_02]: And instead of playing in their strengths and finding people who their weakness is their strength. 49:08.612 --> 49:09.092 [SPEAKER_02]: I learned this. 49:09.532 --> 49:14.934 [SPEAKER_02]: forever ago, like you, you put me in an all day meeting that's detail oriented in spreadsheets. 49:16.315 --> 49:18.156 [SPEAKER_02]: That is going to suck the life out of me. 49:18.236 --> 49:19.896 [SPEAKER_02]: But they are our people. 49:20.116 --> 49:20.417 [SPEAKER_02]: Love it. 49:20.817 --> 49:25.919 [SPEAKER_02]: That that is their sermon prep for me where I'm I want to be up here. 49:25.939 --> 49:34.803 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to be logos open on worship blasting wrestling with the Greek and asking the spirit to show me. 49:34.823 --> 49:37.764 [SPEAKER_02]: And man, I do that that's my day. 49:38.673 --> 49:42.114 [SPEAKER_02]: But there are people that that to them would just be like, oh, I'd die. 49:42.274 --> 49:44.814 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be, I wouldn't know what to do five minutes in. 49:44.834 --> 49:46.455 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's how I feel. 49:46.515 --> 49:53.716 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I just learned early on, I'm gonna let those guys just have, I'm just gonna give them all the authority in the world to just take that and run. 49:53.736 --> 50:00.278 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm gonna come over here and do this and I'm just gonna have a dashboard of metrics that so I know what's going on, but trust them to do it. 50:01.246 --> 50:05.427 [SPEAKER_00]: What a great way to celebrate the ways that God has gifted them, right? 50:05.447 --> 50:09.828 [SPEAKER_00]: To lean in, recognize their strengths, celebrate that as a part of the culture. 50:10.288 --> 50:10.588 [SPEAKER_02]: For sure. 50:10.989 --> 50:15.130 [SPEAKER_02]: So we keep talking about culture, but we just keep saying the word culture. 50:15.630 --> 50:21.551 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about how you develop culture in a place where thinking, building culture, 50:25.554 --> 50:27.659 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you like both of you ground zero? 50:27.679 --> 50:30.946 [SPEAKER_02]: How do you build a culture into a place? 50:31.523 --> 50:57.748 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah always say always saying culture broken down to its simplest form is how you make people feel right it's how you make your customers feel how you make your employees feel and I'll always found the best way to create cultures you got to demonstrate it people don't know what is what is the right culture look like what does it feel like right yeah and I think it just goes you know not Eric and I are selling the same page with this it's you know the genuine this again and my 50:58.668 --> 51:02.849 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, people never remember how you say, but the always remember how you made them feel. 51:03.489 --> 51:09.331 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel that that's critical, but I think culture, most thing important thing that defines cultures who you hire. 51:10.011 --> 51:11.371 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it doesn't take very long. 51:11.451 --> 51:16.673 [SPEAKER_01]: If you hire the bad, a wrong person, you know, you ever noticed that if you make a bad assist, hard to get rid of. 51:19.726 --> 51:33.552 [SPEAKER_01]: you know so that's why we're so diligent on the on the front side of it doing a personality profile let on the who we are you know and then you know certainly we want our team to look respectful so personal grimmings important to us yeah 51:34.212 --> 51:35.773 [SPEAKER_01]: And we communicate all that up front. 51:35.833 --> 51:43.898 [SPEAKER_01]: And the, I think the reason personal grooming is important because I've said Marty Bees is in any of our restaurants. 51:43.958 --> 51:45.899 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the place to make a fashion statement. 51:45.979 --> 51:46.159 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:46.459 --> 51:52.682 [SPEAKER_01]: Because when you start to make it about you, then you can't be serving someone else if you're focused on yourself. 51:52.823 --> 51:53.003 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 51:53.403 --> 51:58.466 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we created our ten commandments to amazing that we follow it all over our restaurants. 51:58.846 --> 52:00.387 [SPEAKER_01]: And the first one is hospitality. 52:00.487 --> 52:01.908 [SPEAKER_01]: The second is personal grooming. 52:03.728 --> 52:06.029 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got all these things that we talk about. 52:06.869 --> 52:14.412 [SPEAKER_01]: And so our team now, because of our culture, you know, they help us identify people that they know aren't. 52:15.152 --> 52:16.433 [SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't be on the team, right? 52:17.013 --> 52:19.594 [SPEAKER_01]: And I love that when they're bringing it to themselves. 52:19.614 --> 52:20.834 [SPEAKER_01]: This person is not going to make it. 52:20.914 --> 52:21.094 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 52:21.235 --> 52:21.935 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for telling us. 52:21.975 --> 52:22.235 [SPEAKER_01]: Great. 52:23.235 --> 52:27.557 [SPEAKER_01]: And why would we keep on robbing that person of the opportunity to go be successful? 52:28.297 --> 52:50.688 [SPEAKER_00]: in their area of gifting this it's obviously not the restaurant yes there's a lot of things you don't want me doing yeah let's not everybody supposed to be a server it's it's just the truth so anyway everything you had there just in culture well i just i love one more he said like there's an aspect initially about like having clarity i actually think culture is worth taking the time to think through so 52:51.508 --> 52:53.249 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, you did that with the Ten Commandments. 52:53.309 --> 53:02.496 [SPEAKER_00]: We actually did it with, you know, briding out our values and a kind of really deep for a pager way that was really simple, but was was really clear. 53:02.516 --> 53:07.639 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, I think this, you know, because we have an opportunity as men, we build, 53:09.040 --> 53:15.782 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, anybody in business, we build culture around us in all settings, right? 53:15.802 --> 53:17.322 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, our family, with our friends. 53:18.042 --> 53:21.503 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think initially, it starts with those little decisions. 53:21.623 --> 53:27.685 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like the smaller things, each thing, how do you handle, you know, the employee that's not right? 53:27.705 --> 53:28.465 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is that? 53:28.685 --> 53:32.866 [SPEAKER_00]: What is that, you know, conversation, you know, look like, how do you treat them with care? 53:32.926 --> 53:35.907 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you treat, so pick your twenty hardest things, 53:37.107 --> 53:57.607 [SPEAKER_00]: those things all matter I think they matter in the kingdom like in how you show up you know how did you bring Christ in and those twenty things and they matter because those are the things said are gonna spawn you know culture for your employees and then each new employee is in installment in that and so they need to be have a clear understanding of that 53:58.167 --> 54:00.248 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, expectation, what you're trying to build. 54:00.288 --> 54:03.529 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I'll tell an employee like, hey, you're a cultural installment. 54:03.609 --> 54:03.789 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 54:03.990 --> 54:04.610 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what does that mean? 54:04.710 --> 54:07.151 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, today we're a six on this. 54:07.251 --> 54:10.512 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to give it a number and I want to be a, I want to be a seven, right? 54:10.552 --> 54:16.335 [SPEAKER_00]: So I expect you to be able to lean in and try and dial in, you know, in this specific area. 54:16.395 --> 54:18.256 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we want to get better in this space. 54:18.276 --> 54:19.216 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 54:19.336 --> 54:25.619 [SPEAKER_02]: So both of you are hinting at something that's a high value for us, which is we're going to tell you the truth. 54:27.346 --> 54:33.951 [SPEAKER_02]: And we've got no, we've got no way forward if I can't tell you the truth. 54:34.071 --> 54:44.558 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we wanted our culture to be one where I'm never, I'm never going to try to give you, you know, the proverbial crap saying, which I'm like, you're so amazing, so gifted. 54:44.979 --> 54:49.402 [SPEAKER_02]: There's this issue that we'd love for you to work on, but remember, you're incredible. 54:49.862 --> 54:51.984 [SPEAKER_02]: Because then what I've learned is that people 54:52.804 --> 54:56.766 [SPEAKER_02]: eat the bread and they won't hear the middle. 54:56.866 --> 55:04.310 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've always just been real forthright of going, nobody gets paid to love Jesus here, loving Jesus is permission to play. 55:05.051 --> 55:10.694 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you're working at the village, there's a job we're doing that requires competency. 55:11.654 --> 55:11.994 [SPEAKER_02]: And if 55:13.375 --> 55:18.617 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're not able to do the job, I don't want you wondering about that. 55:18.737 --> 55:25.960 [SPEAKER_02]: We want to coach and correct and come alongside and help you. 55:26.060 --> 55:28.441 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't want where we've had to remove people. 55:28.521 --> 55:31.903 [SPEAKER_02]: I never want that person to be like, I never saw that come. 55:31.923 --> 55:32.283 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 55:32.523 --> 55:33.443 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean? 55:33.683 --> 55:40.366 [SPEAKER_02]: And so by having a culture of truth, we're able to go, hey, you're at a six week, we need to be at seven. 55:40.406 --> 55:41.727 [SPEAKER_02]: So we need to lean into that. 55:42.427 --> 55:54.036 [SPEAKER_02]: that that in and of itself as a culture where people can flourish because they're not wondering or thinking they're killing it and they're not. 55:54.276 --> 55:59.580 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I found even in what we've tried to build at TVC like we're we're going to tell the truth. 56:00.741 --> 56:08.347 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to say the not said thing and not ask you to read between the lines and be as clear as we can. 56:08.915 --> 56:13.137 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so selfish to give somebody the sandwich or to not. 56:13.677 --> 56:16.698 [SPEAKER_00]: We're to not share, like to not enter into the hard. 56:16.778 --> 56:16.998 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 56:17.338 --> 56:18.118 [SPEAKER_00]: Discussion. 56:18.279 --> 56:21.980 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no chance for them to get better because you want to go home comfortable in that. 56:22.000 --> 56:22.140 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 56:22.857 --> 56:27.763 [SPEAKER_02]: No, well, what you're actually sewing something in your culture by not doing that. 56:28.523 --> 56:33.249 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that, you're sewing something that's going to blow up when it gets to mass. 56:33.950 --> 56:39.496 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you're talking one or two people and then everybody's talking about them, but not talking to them. 56:39.856 --> 56:40.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. 56:40.756 --> 56:41.837 [SPEAKER_02]: And then that grows. 56:41.897 --> 56:48.858 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got four or five people in the organell that are there, sixes when you need them to be sevens. 56:49.218 --> 56:51.839 [SPEAKER_02]: And nobody's let them know, hey, you're at a six. 56:51.859 --> 56:52.839 [SPEAKER_02]: We need you at a seven. 56:53.439 --> 56:56.860 [SPEAKER_02]: And so everybody's behind talking about how their bunch of sixes. 56:56.940 --> 57:00.321 [SPEAKER_02]: And because that means all your sevens are now having to run at eight. 57:00.941 --> 57:07.243 [SPEAKER_02]: And now you've got all the chaos that comes in unhealthy cultures. 57:07.670 --> 57:12.314 [SPEAKER_00]: And then if you think about, like, where's the chance to bring the gospel into her? 57:13.154 --> 57:18.679 [SPEAKER_00]: There is something that's challenging that person that's at a sex from getting to a seven. 57:18.799 --> 57:18.979 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 57:19.419 --> 57:28.726 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you spend time with them, it's usually, sometimes it's just a skill thing, but usually it's about their entire self that's coming in there. 57:28.747 --> 57:30.368 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's usually an opportunity for sure. 57:30.981 --> 57:35.327 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll always say, I never want to make someone feel good for screwing up. 57:36.488 --> 57:40.674 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, right, people have decisions based on seek pleasure ofoid pain. 57:40.774 --> 57:45.581 [SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes we need pain in our life to help us figure out the next thing, right? 57:47.403 --> 57:56.390 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been a friend of pain a lot in my life and I've learned how to work through it, but I've also learned God uses that to mature me, quit me, and teach me something. 57:57.211 --> 58:00.494 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel like I owe it to our team to speak the truth. 58:01.014 --> 58:02.475 [SPEAKER_01]: And man, I wouldn't say that 58:04.677 --> 58:09.881 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the percentage, but I bet seven or eighty percent of the companies out there don't speak the truth at the team. 58:10.482 --> 58:15.185 [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise you wouldn't have this cultural craziness happening within the organization. 58:15.486 --> 58:16.406 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's running the company? 58:16.927 --> 58:17.387 [SPEAKER_01]: The people. 58:17.847 --> 58:19.248 [SPEAKER_01]: The inmates are running the asylum. 58:19.689 --> 58:20.670 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? 58:20.870 --> 58:21.510 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 58:21.730 --> 58:23.332 [SPEAKER_01]: They're failing not to seek the truth. 58:23.452 --> 58:24.152 [SPEAKER_01]: Speak the truth. 58:24.413 --> 58:25.934 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not holding people accountable. 58:26.874 --> 58:30.197 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, this is not popular, but I'm going to say it. 58:33.162 --> 58:34.364 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have an HR department. 58:34.944 --> 58:36.726 [SPEAKER_01]: It Marty Bees and there's a reason we don't. 58:37.647 --> 58:39.650 [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of it's because of who we hire. 58:39.930 --> 58:40.991 [SPEAKER_01]: We hire the right people. 58:42.093 --> 58:44.316 [SPEAKER_01]: HR isn't there because you hire all the great people. 58:44.856 --> 58:45.197 [SPEAKER_02]: It's true. 58:45.457 --> 58:45.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 58:45.677 --> 58:51.985 [SPEAKER_01]: They're there because some sneak through the cracks and then those people end up creating. 58:53.710 --> 58:57.751 [SPEAKER_01]: policy for how the organization then becomes ran. 58:57.771 --> 58:58.211 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 58:58.771 --> 59:09.354 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you robbed the really great people of the ability to be able to feel the zeal and the energy to help be who they need to be to better the organization. 59:09.714 --> 59:14.715 [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden they pull back because all these policies get implemented compromise culture. 59:15.435 --> 59:15.675 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 59:15.755 --> 59:23.437 [SPEAKER_01]: And in the last six months, I've hired two people that were a product of bad culture that was created by 59:24.237 --> 59:25.078 [SPEAKER_01]: The HR department. 59:25.519 --> 59:27.400 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of value in what HR is doing. 59:27.420 --> 59:29.983 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not criticizing specifically. 59:30.083 --> 59:40.132 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying for us, it can be a very harmful effect on culture and what you'll be challenging is that person that's your HR person. 59:40.152 --> 59:46.157 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to be very open to them and share with them all the things that are in your head that may be. 59:46.177 --> 59:46.257 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 59:47.478 --> 59:56.162 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want everybody to know, but they can take it and maybe spin it in a way that isn't the way you intended it to be. 59:56.182 --> 01:00:00.223 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think there's if you're not careful, HR will squash ingenuity. 01:00:00.243 --> 01:00:10.408 [SPEAKER_02]: They'll give you the playbook rather than give you the creative opportunity to solve a problem in a way that might be better for the org. 01:00:11.388 --> 01:00:12.609 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm seeing some of that. 01:00:13.249 --> 01:00:14.229 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been a part of it. 01:00:16.250 --> 01:00:16.650 [SPEAKER_02]: I love it. 01:00:17.972 --> 01:00:37.269 [SPEAKER_02]: I just know because I've done this for a while now, like right now, somebody's on a treadmill or they're in their car or, man, I don't know, watching this in their office at home or just, yeah, they, this all the places that people listen to podcast and 01:00:38.930 --> 01:00:57.021 [SPEAKER_02]: as they've dialed in and my guess is they picked this one because they either are entrepreneurs or they want to be more serious about living out their faith in the environment that God's placed them in in the season of life and work. 01:00:58.182 --> 01:01:00.244 [SPEAKER_02]: What would you say to just encourage them 01:01:01.745 --> 01:01:08.189 [SPEAKER_02]: As they, and I know that's two very different people in entrepreneur and a guy that's just wanting to be more faithful at work. 01:01:08.269 --> 01:01:21.678 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to pick one of those you can, but I would you encourage them on the integration of faith and that forty to seventy hours a week we're spending in these careers or jobs that we're in. 01:01:23.138 --> 01:01:24.019 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, good question. 01:01:25.339 --> 01:01:26.660 [SPEAKER_01]: We know humans are messy. 01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:27.200 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are. 01:01:27.640 --> 01:01:36.464 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and so it's not easy and that's not an easy question to ask, but I'll always find I 01:01:37.738 --> 01:01:38.698 [SPEAKER_01]: have a lot of revelations. 01:01:38.758 --> 01:01:42.779 [SPEAKER_01]: If you just pray a lot about, we're God's intending you to pursue your life. 01:01:42.899 --> 01:01:45.120 [SPEAKER_01]: And what sees, has he gonna use you? 01:01:45.200 --> 01:01:49.261 [SPEAKER_01]: And luckily for me, I was able to identify my gift in this early on in life. 01:01:49.941 --> 01:01:54.722 [SPEAKER_01]: Some people can be four to your in fifty years old today and not even know what that is. 01:01:54.802 --> 01:01:58.363 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's some really good tools out there for you to help identify. 01:01:58.623 --> 01:01:59.383 [SPEAKER_01]: What am I great at? 01:01:59.463 --> 01:02:01.163 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is my personality? 01:02:01.604 --> 01:02:06.065 [SPEAKER_01]: Why am I in a job that is totally opposite of how God created me to be? 01:02:08.388 --> 01:02:10.981 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you can discover that and just 01:02:11.990 --> 01:02:12.850 [SPEAKER_01]: Seek help on that. 01:02:13.370 --> 01:02:14.471 [SPEAKER_01]: What am I great at? 01:02:14.671 --> 01:02:17.491 [SPEAKER_01]: And why do I feel so defeated when I go to work every day? 01:02:17.891 --> 01:02:26.833 [SPEAKER_01]: Because let me tell you, if you don't always say the three most important decisions you'll ever make, one is giving your life to Christ, two is who you marry, three is what you do for living. 01:02:27.573 --> 01:02:33.094 [SPEAKER_01]: And who you marry and what you do for living or interchangeable because if your work life isn't good, your home life will not be as good. 01:02:33.774 --> 01:02:36.535 [SPEAKER_01]: If your home life isn't a good, your work life's going to feel that. 01:02:37.155 --> 01:02:37.395 [SPEAKER_01]: Right? 01:02:37.435 --> 01:02:41.176 [SPEAKER_01]: And so a lot of people 01:02:42.915 --> 01:02:52.388 [SPEAKER_01]: have drift as you said earlier whether it be in their marriage or it may be it's in their job they get bored you know their mind starts going crazy they start watching things on the internet they shouldn't watch 01:02:56.015 --> 01:03:00.196 [SPEAKER_01]: You just have to be aware of that and have, you know, guardrails, some of those things. 01:03:00.736 --> 01:03:06.417 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I have a very small group of very close friends that I know are gonna tell me the truth. 01:03:06.557 --> 01:03:15.058 [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna call me out if I do something or say something, I'm that really in the line with how God has gifted me. 01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.559 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's important to have those people in your life. 01:03:17.879 --> 01:03:21.320 [SPEAKER_01]: If everybody's telling you how great you are, then you're planning to change friends. 01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:23.100 [SPEAKER_02]: You need to get that one Trevor. 01:03:23.900 --> 01:03:25.841 [SPEAKER_02]: You need to get that one Trevor in your life. 01:03:27.962 --> 01:03:28.623 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it, Eric. 01:03:29.323 --> 01:03:33.745 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'll start by just addressing, you know, maybe some folks that are younger in their career. 01:03:33.765 --> 01:03:33.985 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:03:34.346 --> 01:03:39.208 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can remember so many times coming home and being like, isn't it? 01:03:39.288 --> 01:03:40.008 [SPEAKER_00]: Is there more? 01:03:40.028 --> 01:03:41.729 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's gotta be more. 01:03:41.769 --> 01:03:43.110 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm working so hard. 01:03:43.630 --> 01:03:45.251 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm working really, really hard. 01:03:45.331 --> 01:03:45.631 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not 01:03:46.932 --> 01:04:13.345 [SPEAKER_00]: crazy rich from work in really hard so this feels like a grind and I'll just say having done a couple laps not done but done a couple laps I can look back now and I can see the ways God orchestrated all of those things and I can see my first manager coming to church with me and now being like a super powerful person for the kingdom right I can see that people who 01:04:14.425 --> 01:04:35.969 [SPEAKER_00]: you know the guy who had cancer that we prayed for every day and what did that to you and how did that bring together a community and so well it might feel like you're in the middle of the battle when you're in the middle of the race that it doesn't matter it matters and you have the chance no matter where you are you have the chance to impact the the people around you now if you're thinking about being an entrepreneur being entrepreneurs fantastic 01:04:38.169 --> 01:04:56.764 [SPEAKER_00]: super hard you know it's it's a you know commitment of like I'm gonna ride the bike off the ramp no matter what happens I do think we need more people in business that want to pair up businesses with ministry and there's all kinds of ministry that needs to be funded and so this idea that businesses bad or profits are bad or 01:04:57.745 --> 01:04:58.826 [SPEAKER_00]: Capitalism is bad. 01:04:59.907 --> 01:05:02.409 [SPEAKER_00]: There is just such tremendous opportunity. 01:05:03.070 --> 01:05:06.513 [SPEAKER_00]: You do the math on just some basic, basic ministries. 01:05:07.073 --> 01:05:10.076 [SPEAKER_00]: You can get to the point pretty quick where you're like, well, I could double that budget. 01:05:10.956 --> 01:05:12.898 [SPEAKER_00]: I could double the size of that organization. 01:05:12.998 --> 01:05:16.541 [SPEAKER_00]: You can almost do the math on this organization. 01:05:16.581 --> 01:05:18.222 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's how many people would come to the kingdom. 01:05:19.442 --> 01:05:21.363 [SPEAKER_00]: I would just encourage people to have an entrepreneurial mindset. 01:05:22.083 --> 01:05:36.288 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm seeing there's more and more that's happening within the community, especially here in the DFW area that I feel like is thinking a different way about using their skills and I would love it if it became a massive trend. 01:05:36.573 --> 01:05:37.273 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, me too. 01:05:37.773 --> 01:05:46.877 [SPEAKER_02]: So I would I would say if you're listening to this, I'm oftentimes pressing on this idea of how your uniquely wired by God, uniquely placed by God. 01:05:48.117 --> 01:05:56.180 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think most of the time we end up in the domains that were in because of that unique wiring. 01:05:57.201 --> 01:06:03.743 [SPEAKER_02]: So like a finance guy has a unique bent and that bend is probably why he ended up in finance. 01:06:05.744 --> 01:06:11.706 [SPEAKER_02]: And so if we can see our lives through those lenses, then life becomes about faithful presence. 01:06:12.626 --> 01:06:18.448 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you've been uniquely placed in the domain of finance, well then man, that's your spot. 01:06:19.008 --> 01:06:22.970 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is why when this woman was asking me about should I post this, I might get fired, I'm like, 01:06:23.710 --> 01:06:26.112 [SPEAKER_02]: Why would you don't get fired over this? 01:06:26.893 --> 01:06:29.475 [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is the wrong thing to get fired over, right? 01:06:29.535 --> 01:06:34.220 [SPEAKER_02]: The Lord's placed you there salt and light, like who gets access to these people with the gospel? 01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:35.281 [SPEAKER_02]: You do. 01:06:35.921 --> 01:06:42.687 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm trying to encourage you to be really shrewd about that in the best way the way Jesus used the word shrewd, not 01:06:43.688 --> 01:06:49.113 [SPEAKER_02]: go in with a, you know, like I'm megaphone and, you know, like just be there. 01:06:49.254 --> 01:06:49.874 [SPEAKER_02]: Love people. 01:06:49.894 --> 01:06:52.016 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I mean by faithful presence. 01:06:52.056 --> 01:06:53.938 [SPEAKER_02]: How can we be prayerfully curious? 01:06:55.300 --> 01:06:57.141 [SPEAKER_02]: How can we have appropriate boldness? 01:06:58.022 --> 01:07:07.311 [SPEAKER_02]: But understand that when I'm when that alarm goes off and I'm getting up and I'm heading to this place where there's hostile or friendly or indifferent. 01:07:08.492 --> 01:07:25.347 [SPEAKER_02]: that I am not here primarily to make money and create provision for my family or so that we can get this comfort or like I am primarily here because God's uniquely wired me and uniquely placed me and then that 01:07:26.168 --> 01:07:44.566 [SPEAKER_02]: the action steps from that understanding is what is what is kind of prayerful curiosity look like so I'm praying for people I'm moving towards people and then what is appropriate boldness yeah appropriate boldness which I know for some people will be like no there's just 01:07:45.066 --> 01:07:45.988 [SPEAKER_02]: All in for Jesus. 01:07:46.028 --> 01:07:51.896 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sometimes all in for Jesus means appropriately being bold and not inappropriate boldness. 01:07:53.218 --> 01:07:56.243 [SPEAKER_02]: And so that's how I would encourage you if you're listening today. 01:07:57.144 --> 01:07:59.367 [SPEAKER_02]: The kingdom of God has not grown. 01:08:01.069 --> 01:08:06.536 [SPEAKER_02]: from that little group in Jerusalem to two point three billion Christians worldwide through preachers. 01:08:07.396 --> 01:08:19.089 [SPEAKER_02]: It's grown that way through the everyday faithfulness of men and women who are going to work places, they live in certain neighborhoods, they go in the hobby in certain places, and the gospel is spread globally. 01:08:19.770 --> 01:08:20.310 [SPEAKER_02]: this way. 01:08:20.791 --> 01:08:23.912 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, as it spreads this way, preachers get involved. 01:08:23.992 --> 01:08:43.202 [SPEAKER_02]: But real, the real secret sauce of the kingdom is you being faithfully present at this work thing that we're talking about or you building that work thing like we're talking about here and you being a great employee and you bringing your love for Jesus with you. 01:08:43.842 --> 01:08:57.282 [SPEAKER_02]: to work and I think that will eradicate some boredom from you maybe and I think it will help you see co-workers and even the bottom line in the business maybe a little bit different if we're putting those lenses on as we had to work. 01:08:59.044 --> 01:08:59.905 [SPEAKER_01]: make two points. 01:08:59.945 --> 01:09:00.405 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, come on. 01:09:00.665 --> 01:09:04.947 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say, this is a very basic, but often find people don't do it. 01:09:05.308 --> 01:09:06.568 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is just having a goal. 01:09:06.868 --> 01:09:07.429 [SPEAKER_01]: What's your goal? 01:09:07.549 --> 01:09:07.709 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:09:08.029 --> 01:09:09.510 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, what are your goals tomorrow? 01:09:09.550 --> 01:09:10.691 [SPEAKER_01]: What are your goals for the year? 01:09:11.131 --> 01:09:12.211 [SPEAKER_01]: Two years, five years. 01:09:12.632 --> 01:09:15.213 [SPEAKER_01]: And every time I commit goals to paper, it gives me energy. 01:09:15.473 --> 01:09:15.653 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure. 01:09:15.733 --> 01:09:16.794 [SPEAKER_01]: And it gets me fired up. 01:09:17.014 --> 01:09:18.635 [SPEAKER_01]: And I've written goals for twenty-five years. 01:09:19.616 --> 01:09:21.697 [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing I would say is you were talking about 01:09:22.637 --> 01:09:25.079 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, people on a treadmill or driving home. 01:09:25.459 --> 01:09:30.502 [SPEAKER_01]: I read a great book, uh, the, uh, the dream giver Bruce Wolk and so. 01:09:30.522 --> 01:09:30.742 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 01:09:31.043 --> 01:09:34.165 [SPEAKER_01]: And I read it in a whole period where I was struggling. 01:09:34.185 --> 01:09:36.026 [SPEAKER_01]: I was in the wasteland as he refers to it. 01:09:36.106 --> 01:09:43.451 [SPEAKER_01]: And, um, and it reminded me of when I think in the book, he even eludes this when Moses is leading his people through the promised land. 01:09:43.811 --> 01:09:46.313 [SPEAKER_01]: The reason they were in the promised land for so long, 01:09:46.973 --> 01:09:54.623 [SPEAKER_01]: is they weren't God was preparing them for what they were about to receive and he needed them to have the maturity to be able to handle that responsibility. 01:09:55.083 --> 01:10:04.054 [SPEAKER_01]: And so in times where I've been in this wasteland space, God was maturing me and preparing me for his blessing coming forward. 01:10:07.119 --> 01:10:08.601 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that one more comment come on. 01:10:08.701 --> 01:10:14.887 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say like just as an encouragement like the more that you start to anticipate what God's gonna do and you start looking for those moments 01:10:23.536 --> 01:10:25.217 [SPEAKER_00]: The more that you'll see him and you'll find him. 01:10:25.257 --> 01:10:28.779 [SPEAKER_00]: So you might be looking around where you're at and you might be feeling like there's no impact. 01:10:28.819 --> 01:10:29.500 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no fruit. 01:10:29.900 --> 01:10:30.861 [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing happening. 01:10:30.881 --> 01:10:36.844 [SPEAKER_00]: But I just encourage you the more that you set your heart, the more that you lean in and pray and more that you look for. 01:10:37.324 --> 01:10:39.426 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, God, what is it that you have for me today? 01:10:40.106 --> 01:10:41.007 [SPEAKER_00]: You'll start to have those. 01:10:41.087 --> 01:10:42.167 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely. 01:10:42.187 --> 01:10:42.748 [SPEAKER_00]: That's wonderful. 01:10:44.063 --> 01:10:48.626 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well thank you for dialing into this episode of The Overcomeers. 01:10:49.166 --> 01:10:57.111 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope you've been encouraged and hope as you had to work tomorrow, you're going with a renewed purpose and sense of God at work in the mess and so God bless you. 01:11:11.387 --> 01:11:14.408 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, thank you so much for tuning in to the overcomers. 01:11:14.488 --> 01:11:17.788 [SPEAKER_02]: I just pray your heart is always encouraged in the Lord. 01:11:17.848 --> 01:11:32.631 [SPEAKER_02]: Really the ministry I feel God's called me to in this season is to be one that's encouraging you, telling you the Lord sees you, reminding you of the opportunities that we have as the people of God in this day. 01:11:32.991 --> 01:11:36.652 [SPEAKER_02]: And so the overcomers podcast is one of the ways I do that another way. 01:11:37.352 --> 01:12:03.261 [SPEAKER_02]: is that I'm sending out a monthly newsletter and in that I've got a little audio link for kind of things I'm thinking about and wrestling through that I'm not necessarily preaching on and so in the show notes is a link where you can go and sign up for that monthly email and so man if the overcomers is encouraging you I would encourage you then to click on that link sign up for the newsletter and it's way for me to 01:12:03.742 --> 01:12:09.685 [SPEAKER_02]: further encourage you as you seek to live as overcomers in this current moment.