[SPEAKER_06]: He was worried that it would be corrupted so he scrambled and came up with a Simpsons instead.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the biggest you never know.
[SPEAKER_05]: And now here are your hosts, Chris Akinson, Jeremy Scott and Ian Dyson.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're just absolutely right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm absolutely wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: It must be nice to always believe you know better to always think you're the smartest person in the room.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hello, everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is episode one hundred and seventy seven of Rectopia.
[SPEAKER_03]: My name is Chris Atkinson and Aaron.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's conspiratorial.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to welcome Aaron Dicer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hi to Lee.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, uh, there's only ten of them arenos.
[SPEAKER_03]: ah yes yes indeed you usually plan on that that's right and also uh welcome to the show Jeremy Scott hello everybody today's big recommend is broadcast news broads don't belong in broadcasting you can favor the famous line in new hf favorite
[SPEAKER_03]: Also would like to welcome Chat who have come out here to watch us talk about movies on a Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_03]: And let's get on to our small recommends.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so small and light.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's small.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's tiny.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's petite.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's wheat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will start us off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Small recommend that I have today is from Mr. Holland's Opus, a movie I hadn't seen and quite some time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I popped it in the other day because I have this like imported disc that I didn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: She wasn't sure it was going to work and it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Randvine, Randvine, Randvine absolutely fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: but this stars a Richard Dreyfus as a music teacher at a high school and it's a multi-generational look at his life as it goes through I believe from the sixties to the nineties thirty-year career of teaching people and what the importance of teachers and in the importance of music in people's lives.
[SPEAKER_03]: It also stars Glenn Ahedley as his wife and she is awesome in this movie
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's a point where he, you know, they have a child who is deaf and there's a lot of struggles with that trying to figure out.
[SPEAKER_03]: He, he, he, obviously at the beginning doesn't really know what to do with a deaf child, especially when he is, you know, he's a music teacher and he likes to teach music and everything and I think he feels disappointed
[SPEAKER_03]: And he doesn't know exactly what to do with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's this father-son dynamic that grows throughout the film.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's very very beautiful to watch as it goes through and everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: But mostly it's about him and particular students in particular eras and basically always the fight of having to deal with public funding and what they decide to cut when it comes to what they teach in high school and things of that nature.
[SPEAKER_03]: the movie is is your is your typical mellow drama type of thing it's it's it's really well done has a beautiful ending that will might make it here up and yeah hadn't seen it in a while thought I'd share this one this is a good one
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think I only saw the one time in theaters.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I remember loving it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it did make me tear up if I recall.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I need to revisit this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it puts its finger on this truth about impact and how we undersell our impact on the lives around us because, you know, we weren't famous or we didn't invent something that changed the world or whatever and how we undersell the
[SPEAKER_02]: The little pieces of ourself that we give to all those we come in contact with and the positive impact that we can have just by living our day-to-day life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really puts its finger on that and I think a really profound way with the way it structures the film.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also haven't seen it in a while, but yeah, it's a very moving film for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you got, Aaron?
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk about Alien Earth, the new CV show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Noah Hawley is in charge of this and he's had
[SPEAKER_02]: Success with other franchises and kind of bringing them to the small screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought his X-Man or X-Men TV show that I'm forgetting the name of right here in this very moment was really, really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really am enjoying so far three episodes in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're just starting into this first season.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm really enjoying these characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really enjoying the structure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm enjoying the thematic work it's doing specifically in the area of this hybrid type of creation that is both synth, but also the human consciousness is downloaded into the synth.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's kind of this third type of consciousness in the alien universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: He really knows how to play in this universe really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: The action is interesting and exciting, but I really like the, there's kind of a Peter Pan theme through this that I think really works well for what these children in adult bodies are going through because these, these hybrids do to, you know, exposition on necessity.
[SPEAKER_02]: have to be a children loaded into adult bodies and so you know that Peter Pan theme works really well with that and also it gives an opportunity for some really interesting interactions so yeah loving the cast loving what's going on here I think Sydney Chandler who plays Wendy kind of the centerpiece of this is is really good as well in a
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, stand out Timothy Olafont, playing a synth, a named Kirschen this is really affecting.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, good stuff going on here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Your name's Wendy and there's a Peter Pan theme.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of them, like, she's Wendy and then, like, some of the others are, like, nibs and, you know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, it's definitely, and they talk about it in the show itself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, one of the kids is like, why did I have to be named nibs?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, and so that you've been talking about it a little bit, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, I'm actually super excited about this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I loved what Holly did with Fargo as a TV series.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm very excited that this and the predator brands are being revived with awesome stuff lately.
[SPEAKER_06]: Have you seen any predator-related Easter eggs?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, you know, I'm kind of the worst at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't spot Easter eggs a lot of times.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have to be pointed out to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: The new one with the.
[SPEAKER_06]: Fanning as an L fanning.
[SPEAKER_06]: Predator badlands.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is that the one I'm not getting it right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That trailer has like wailing corporation easter eggs all over it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's the company in Alien.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I think that guy's clearly leaning that way.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just was kind of curious if they might be coordinating thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's fully canon at this point that they're the same universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like it's it's it's almost not an easter egg anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, there's literally been Alien versus Predator movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like yeah, but I think we're going there again.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think we're going to have more success.
[SPEAKER_06]: Jeremy, what do you got?
[SPEAKER_06]: I got an obscure little movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: I stumbled on on MGM.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is on MGM.
[SPEAKER_06]: Plus I was watching it on the movie channel.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like television and it's called La Roy, Texas.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is officially the second movie with Steve Zahn that has Texas in the title.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's also a happy Texas.
[SPEAKER_06]: this is a ninety eight on rotten tomatoes and a six point five on IMDB so it's not just me who wants to say good things about this but in a world full of
[SPEAKER_06]: Cohen brother want to be this is one of the best I've seen in terms of striking the right tone of crime and comedy and surprise and unique small town characters and settings.
[SPEAKER_06]: Basically this is John McGarrow who I most know from September five and in the big short he's one of the two guys that works with Brad Pitt.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he's hired Steve Zahn
[SPEAKER_06]: uh... who's a private detective to take pictures of his wife because he thinks his wife is having an affair and it proven he's got pictures of his wife having an affair so he goes and buys a gun and drives to a motel parking lot where he's going to kill himself until a stranger gets in the car mistaken him for a hitman but he is high hand some a bag of cash and an address and says it has to be done tomorrow and leaves
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to tell you a little bit more just to get you hooked.
[SPEAKER_06]: So the guy now with this cash is like maybe I can save my marriage if I buy a beauty salon my wife's always wanted to own and run and maybe she'll stay with me.
[SPEAKER_06]: But this dude also gave me this money.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know how to hit man, but he's probably gonna expect me to do something.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he starts following the guy he finds at the address, but he's so bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: The guy basically catches him, gets in the car, there's a scuffle, and he shoots the fucking guy on accident.
[SPEAKER_06]: Then he kicks the body out the door, and a picture of his wife having an affair falls out.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll let you go from there.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of green actors in this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have seen a lot of movies try to be like Fargo-esque.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this is one of the best I've seen in a long time.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's really confident.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's really all the twists make sense.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I kind of like the ending, which is a little bit unconventional, at least traditionally speaking.
[SPEAKER_06]: So on MGM Plus, La Roy, Texas, I highly recommend.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had not heard this at all, and now I'm going to have to watch it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, as you gave it such a good review and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely get it on the list in a world where even a singular Cohen brother can't make a good Cohen brother's movie, uh, be nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of liked the I was kind of that kind of dug that last one that came out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't great by any means.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was that call?
[SPEAKER_03]: Draw the weight alls.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of kind of kind of dug that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just yeah, it's missing a lot, but it's it's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what half of the Cohen brothers?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's what it was meant to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's half of a Cohen Brothers movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got it's got stuff in it that you're like, oh, I love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why can't there be more of that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, because just one guy, he's joking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shout out to Marshall Arts Film Freaky who did the Lord Texas in the chat.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to go to our big recommend, which is broadcast news and it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is mine, so I will go ahead and start us off.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just that you're so big.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so huge.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good rule, but it's bigger than rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bigger on the inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I noticed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, broadcast news was written and directed by James Elbrutz.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was nominated for seven Oscars, including Best Picture Best Screenplay.
[SPEAKER_03]: All three leads the cinematography and the editing, not winning any.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ali Hunter would lose to share for Moonstruck, which I do not agree with whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_03]: William Hurt would lose to Michael Douglas for Wall Street, that was kind of a hard category.
[SPEAKER_03]: Albert Brooks would lose to Sean Connery for the untouchables, another tough category.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, the movie starts off with a young Tom Grunic, who later be played by William Hurt, explaining early on what his problem is he's a handsome dude, but maybe not the smartest guy in the room, not for a lack of trying.
[SPEAKER_03]: We then move over to the young Erin Altman, later to be played by Albert Brooks, who is apparently a super genius graduating high school at the age of fifteen and getting beat up by Bowley shortly after the ceremony.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are then whisked over to a young Jane Craig, later played by Holly Hunter, who is an avid letterwriter and is being scolded by her father for staying up to late writing pin pals.
[SPEAKER_03]: Her dad calls her obsessive and then to prove him wrong, she stops obsessively writing letters to lay into him about what the word obsessive means.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, in the grown-up years, we see that Jane and Erin are friends and colleagues.
[SPEAKER_03]: After a phone call with Erin making fun of Arnold Schwarzenegger early on, we see Jane just break down and cry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not too long.
[SPEAKER_03]: After we see them reviewing footage of Erin tracking down a war hero turned mercenary for a quote, who doesn't want to talk, who ends up just saying fuck to Erin a whole lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane has a huge speech where she derides what news has become.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone in the crowd seems disinterested except Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane sees what she's… Jane sees that she's losing the crowd and tries to go off script and even skipping over all the important things in her speech to get to… get to a tape that every network ran as a news item, a fun sequence of dominoes, falling and turning into pictures.
[SPEAKER_03]: It gets the crowd back, despite Jane's efforts, and it seems that everyone likes the idea of this being called news.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom ends up meeting with Jane after her failed speech to tell her how much he genuinely liked it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane very confidently asked Tom out for dinner, which he accepts.
[SPEAKER_03]: This seems to be going pretty well, except it's pretty clear that Tom is looking to a smart woman for advice and not really much of anything else.
[SPEAKER_03]: He apparently got his anchor job because an untrue story came out that as a reporter, he was leaving the network and a bunch of protest phone calls and letters ended up getting him a promotion.
[SPEAKER_03]: The problem in his mind is that he's not actually good at being an anchor.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty clear that Tom represents everything Jane is against, but also a someone who is deeply attracted to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is falling into the trap that many others fall into when it comes to principles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Still, she lays into Tom for something a lot of people do.
[SPEAKER_03]: He seems to be admitting that he's terrible and making it seem like it's okay as long as he acknowledges it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane does not let him off the hook.
[SPEAKER_03]: He tells her,
[SPEAKER_03]: that he hated the way she talked to him and not just because she was right and then the door closes between them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Despite having something extra to say, nothing else is said to each other for the night.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane immediately calls her buddy Aaron to tell him about the failed attempt to get laid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron's never won.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron never won to get let an insult go by.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell Jane he must have been really good looking because no one lets a bad looking idiot into their room.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shortly after their conversation, Tom calls and says, oh, by the way, I was hired by your network and we'll be seeing each other a lot soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane and Aaron rage about it the next morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are taken to a bustling new station in Washington, D.C., Jane is behind the scenes trying to get things ready for the day's broadcast, specifically Aaron's story on the mercenary that needs to be shown on their major affiliate in New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not only is there a time crunch, but Jane also wants to shoot and edit footage for a story just a mere fourteen minutes before they go on air, which even if they get it done, will have to be ran manually to the other side of the station by a hyperventilating Joan Cusack.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh wait, is that a surprise Jack Nicholson on the air in New York?
[SPEAKER_03]: He's playing network anchor Bill Rourish.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom wants to soak up more knowledge from Jane, who isn't having it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom makes a snide remark that this must have something to do with the fact that he left her hotel room instead of staying there.
[SPEAKER_03]: She holds back just enough to simply say that it's not personal.
[SPEAKER_03]: We move on to Nicaragua, where Jane and Erin are covering the sand and east is the complexity of Jane is shown here when she smiles at the prospect of shooting happening later tonight, but also scolds a camera man for staging news when
[SPEAKER_03]: when he wants to get footage of a soldier putting on shoes.
[SPEAKER_03]: During the fighting later in the night, Aaron remarks to Jane, I can't believe I just risk my life or a network that tests my face with focus groups.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel good.
[SPEAKER_03]: During the middle of the show that this is broadcast, Bill calls Jane to tell her how much she enjoyed the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: and how he's just going to have to bring her up to New York some day.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when Jane tries to give Erin some credit, Bill's not interested.
[SPEAKER_03]: Erin believes it has something to do with the fact that he said something about Bill's hairline a year and a half ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom approaches Jane concerning a story about an expensive army vehicle that doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also an early peek into Tom's journalistic integrity because a story that seemingly involves two cameras is actually only being done with one camera, meaning impossible footage of Tom is making it into the edit, which isn't immediately recognized by the people in the room.
[SPEAKER_03]: And even though Tom's insertion into the story feels compelling, Aaron is the first to note that the footage seems to be making him the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: We go to a company party where Jennifer played by lowest child, asked Jane if she can see Tom socially outside of work, since she seemed close to Tom and doesn't want to get in the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane says she doesn't mind before realizing, oh shit, she does.
[SPEAKER_03]: She outright admits she doesn't respect him, but she is attracted to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: But she also doesn't feel like she's telling Jennifer not to pursue him, leaving that whole situation confusing until Jane practically begs Jennifer to throw herself at Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actual news is breaking at the party, a Libyan plane attacked a U.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: air base in Sicily and Ernie played by Robert Proski, tells Tom to tap into a source he has that can help with the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ernie hands out assignments to everyone, this is a story the Washington affiliate is going to have to produce an air because New York anchor bill is unavailable.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want Tom as anchor, even though this is Aaron's bread and butter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane tries to talk to the president of the network Paul Moore played by real-life news correspondent Peter Haccus.
[SPEAKER_03]: You convince him that it should be Aaron's job and not Tom's.
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul waves off James, please, as a matter of opinion, and she tells him he disagrees, which leads to one of my all-time favorite exchanges ever in a movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just absolutely right, and I'm absolutely wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: It must be nice to always believe you no better to always think you're the smartest person in the room, to which Jane responds, no, it's awful.
[SPEAKER_03]: What follows is the centerpiece of the movie with Tom anchoring a huge story with Jane as executive producer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane is in full command, Aaron, who was just going to stay home and be depressed about not being the anchor, besides he can help the broadcast by telling Jane everything he's learned about Libya over the years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, Tom, the guy who looks good on camera is basically being fed lines from a serenote aburgerac Jane.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the broadcast sings because of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's some trouble when Jane gets distracted with some sort of parking issue and isn't feeding Tom things to say, which leads to another great moment moment when Tom improvises after reporting that the Libyan pilot was acting on his own.
[SPEAKER_03]: He says, in other words, I think we're all okay to which Ernie says to himself, who the hell cares what you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, after the broadcast, Tom vines Jane and explains what a great team they are, he invites her to a celebration at a bar, which she rejects initially because she's going to see Aaron, but then asks how long he'll be there.
[SPEAKER_03]: When she goes to visit Aaron, Aaron's been drinking a bit and he tells Jane that he's in love with her, which is apparently a familiar refrain.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of wish, by the way, to break into this, they didn't have this scene because it breaks up that great thing later on.
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, they do have that scene in here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron says he wishes she was two people so that he could call up the one who's his friend so that he can tell her about the woman he likes so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: He even gives her a big kiss and then jokes, well, I felt something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, by the time Jane makes it to the bar, it's a little too late, Tom and Jennifer appear to be going home together.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom asked Jane out to a correspondence dinner, which appears to be an actual date for once.
[SPEAKER_03]: After that, the next story Tom does is a date rape story, and this is the one that puts everything on the line.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a well-done report that everyone likes.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're a woman, played by Marita Garrity, who played Nancy Taylor in Groundhog Day.
[SPEAKER_03]: tells her terrible story complete with a cutaway to Tom who was shown with a tear streaked face.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom asked Jane what she thought of it and she says she probably wouldn't make the choice to cut to him crying, but maybe she's the one who's wrong because the story was emotional and it felt right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ernie tells Aaron about cutbacks at the studio which include Birings.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron believes he definitely will be fired and asked Ernie if he can get one shot at being an anchor so he can try to prove himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because everyone wants off for the correspondence dinner on the weekend, Aaron is going to get his chance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ernie wants him to get some pointers about some performance things which definitely means with means with Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Aaron says, I think a better be alone for a while to which Ernie responds, I understand, I'll go with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shortly after we see Tom give shortly after we see Tom giving Aaron tips about being an anchor, notably nothing having to do with the news at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Erin goes over to James while she's preparing to go to the correspondence dinner, asking about outfits to wear on TV.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's here he finds out that Jane and Tom are going to the dinner together and he gets a little jealous asking her why it's not uncomfortable for her when she when he shows up while she's preparing for a date.
[SPEAKER_03]: She claims it's not a date, but while she says this out of Erin's sight, she puts a box of condoms in her purse, which will later come into play when they're about to go through a metal detector and she would be forced to empty the purse's contents in front of Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron anchors the news and starts sweating pretty hard almost immediately to the point that the drops of sweat are noticeably streaming down his face on camera.
[SPEAKER_03]: His shirt starts soaking through in the attempt to save Aaron the stage hands have ideas to give him a new shirt and or blow dry the sweat, but they run out of time and even run into the background fixture behind Aaron where it starts swaying.
[SPEAKER_03]: A visible hand shows up to fix it in the background.
[SPEAKER_03]: After Jane and Tom leave the correspondence dinner early because of her box of condoms, they go to the Lincoln Memorial where they kiss and Tom openly gropes her.
[SPEAKER_03]: It looks like they're going to have sex, but Jane remembers she was going to see Erin after his broadcast, which breaks the spell momentarily.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane tells Tom, she'll meet him afterwards.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron tells Jane about the terrible broadcast, but he's not sad about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's glad, but only because Jane showed up, and she definitely doesn't have plans to have sex with Tom later.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then she lets it out or the bag that she might be in love with Tom, to which Aaron responds very maturely by telling her to leave his house.
[SPEAKER_03]: The cooler heads prevail, long enough for them to have a talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Erin reminds Jane that Tom represents everything she hates and news.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, don't get me wrong when I tell you that Tom, while being a very nice guy, is the devil.
[SPEAKER_03]: Erin there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron then fully commits and tells Jane that he loves her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even though Jane isn't mood by Aaron, the discussion is important enough to call Tom and tell him that she's going to run later than normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: He tells her that he's not some task that she has to cross off on her schedule and things officially go cold.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron even cold shoulders her a bit by telling her thanks for stopping by.
[SPEAKER_03]: The next day at work,
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane gives Tom Tom a tongue-lashing for his behavior, asking if he's only showing interest in her because she can help him with his career, but isn't embarrassed when she finds out his dad is in the office.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bill Rourish visits the office, which seems awesome, but it's a prelude for the bad news that many are about to get fired.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bill laments the business side of news, where they can't stay afloat because the network can't properly program other shows to keep them solvent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Paul says, well, we could keep some of them if you knocked a million or so off for your salary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, the firing is commenced shortly after, Tom gets promoted to be in London, which is what they did with Bill before making him the network anchor.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're making Jane the bureau chief, which puts Ernie out of a job.
[SPEAKER_03]: They tell Aaron they're fine with what he does at his salary, so he quits an eventually takes a job at the number two station in Portland.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron confirms with Tom somewhat out of the blue if he had only one camera crew on the date rape story.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom asked Jane if they can try to get away for a while to see how they are away from the office.
[SPEAKER_03]: She wants to do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Next scene, Jane calls up Aaron because he didn't tell her about quitting, so they go to meet at the place near the thing where they went that time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron is in full on move on mode, resigned to the fact that he'll never be a couple, resigned to the fact that no one appreciates what he offers in the news world.
[SPEAKER_03]: But before he leaves, he turns this movie into a cinema sense by asking Jane how Tom could have gotten that shot of him crying in the date rape story when he only brought one camera to the interview.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane then reviews the footage and finds out that Tom worked up the tears after the fact to make it look like he was crying in the moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: And while in the actual moment he was about to cry and the producer thought it was a shame they couldn't get that on camera, the dishonesty is enough for Jane to meet Tom at the airport and tell him she's not going on the romantic trip with him and tells him exactly why.
[SPEAKER_03]: The movie goes on to a seven years later prologue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our epilogue, I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it epilogue?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's epilogue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's epilogue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said prologue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wrote prologue.
[SPEAKER_03]: What the hell?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where Tom is taking Bill's place after retirement.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is making a speech where he said he took the job as long as he wasn't also the managing editor, which is a statement about the state of the news.
[SPEAKER_03]: The movie is making through Tom's self-deprecation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Additionally, he's getting married to someone named Lila.
[SPEAKER_03]: Erin is at the speech, and an introduces Tom to a son Clifford, who then asks who Tom is, says the big joke.
[SPEAKER_03]: Erin and Tom then go over to meet Jane, where she reveals that she's going to be that managing editor Tom was talking about earlier.
[SPEAKER_03]: She also mentioned she's been seeing someone from the surgeon general's office.
[SPEAKER_03]: The movie ends with Erin and Jane talking as old friends do under the gazebo.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's broadcast news.
[SPEAKER_03]: Guys, what did you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron, you were me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go first.
[SPEAKER_02]: This one of the greatest movies ever made.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is just front to back a pleasure to watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are many reasons for that from the performances to the incredible writing, to the way the performance is, highlight the incredible writing.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some killer line deliveries in this movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she asked, and you mentioned a lot of them, Chris, in your in your synopsis.
[SPEAKER_02]: The way Holly Hunter says, no, it's awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: And which, and I hate to break in on this already, but I did want the commentary on this earlier this morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: And apparently that was the seventeenth take that he was trying to get that perfect reaction and and did it about twenty times apparently that was the what you got it you got it because that was the one for sure yeah the delivery is key in what me maybe my in my top five movie quotes of all time where Albert Brooks says there's only ten
[SPEAKER_02]: And even the fall up to that is perfect where he's like, you're feeling really good right now, aren't you?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I'm feeling pretty good or whatever he says, you know, it's starting to, yeah, yeah, it's just perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, you put all that together and you just have this really great watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then on top of that, or maybe underneath that, maybe later underneath that, there's this incredible exploration of
[SPEAKER_02]: a very, a prescient thing about where news was heading even at the time and even more today, where it's not really news, unless you think of news as something separate from journalism, which I understand can be a distinction
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's entertainment.
[SPEAKER_02]: And entertainment cares about how good looking the host is and how your shoulders look or that you're not sweating.
[SPEAKER_02]: But news doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: News should be information that is immune to those kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think that the movie has some spot on things to say about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing that really, really works in this movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, is how much empathy this movie has for all three of its main characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a very different movie where the Tom Characters, a complete jerk that we're not supposed to like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's where the script goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: She leaves him like she has an awakening.
[SPEAKER_02]: to her idea of a journalistic ethics don't match up with his and she leaves him at the airport they go their separate ways and there's a world where this is a realization about the Tom character in a much not darker necessarily but more pointed way you know he's he's much more of a jerk but it gives Tom a lot of empathy in this movie you know a lot of ability to be
[SPEAKER_02]: just different and not necessarily evil, even with the speech about being the devil, you know, with the fruits of the devil.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not, he's not really portrayed that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get three different instances of Holly Hunter just breaking out in tears.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's so powerful because all of this has to go somewhere, and it's just private moments, she'll just break out into yours.
[SPEAKER_02]: And even the Albert Brooks character is, you know, he's a sad sack in a lot of ways, but it really gives him the empathy of
[SPEAKER_02]: being, you know, the smartest one in the room at times and the ability for him to, you know, even as he is flopped sweating, find a way to be not just
[SPEAKER_02]: not just have a sense of humor about it, but actually persevere through it and learn something about himself through that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he, I think you learned something about himself with that relationship, too, that unrequited love.
[SPEAKER_02]: He learns, you know, he says something about, and we'll just be friends and we'll get hot for each other, dinner every six years, and we will never ever act on it, or whatever, you know, like he has a way to push through.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just really like how this movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: spends time enough with its characters to understand them as complete human beings, not just these stereotypes or caricatures.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, of course, there are a lot of other moments, a lot of alliterations from anxious anchors placed in powerful positions.
[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned the, okay, I'll meet you at the place near the thing where we went that one time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Holly Hunter just being like, okay, it's like, yeah, there's something so beautifully unspoken there that I think is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other moment I wanted to bring up was the Jack Nicholson moment where, and you mentioned this as well, Chris, where the guy says, you can make it less brutal by knocking off a million or so of your salary.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then just the apoplectic Apologies that look at me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the deliberation as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just come out of this guy afterwards.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he realizes, oh, actually this is the guy with more power than me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter what our titles are.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter, you know, like this guy can get me fired.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... and you know he is just a apologizing pat joke i'm sorry and just the way the camera follows jacknickle sin and we still hear him apologizing in the background and and it's also great on his part that he doesn't say anything at all to this is like i've got so much power in the situation i don't need to say anything here you know you already feel bad enough i don't need to put you in your place you've already done it
[SPEAKER_03]: So I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so anyways, it's just a movie full of great moments, great meaning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boy, it's a good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good one.
[SPEAKER_06]: You guys have already said most of the quotes I was going to say, but
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there's a confidence to this movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the beats of the story are perfectly past.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's even that one moment I forget what comes before, but it jump cuts to her on the peer in Central America crying, but it's a smash cut to her just crying.
[SPEAKER_06]: The pacing the editing, I think it really guides you through the emotional beats of the story.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think Albert Brooks is
[SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, all three of them are great.
[SPEAKER_06]: All three of them are award worthy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Albert Brooks, probably Holly Hunter, but Albert Brooks is maybe the only one I would say nobody else could really do this because you have to be every man enough, but also really witty and funny.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I just, the older I get, the more appreciation I gain for Albert Brooks as an actor, as a comedian, his timing is impeccable.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think he's ultimately, for me, the heartbeat for the movie, the character I identify with most, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I was never the William hurt.
[SPEAKER_06]: dumb good looking guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was never smart good looking guy either.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I did feel like smarter than the good looking dumb guys in my school and in competing for attention from girls.
[SPEAKER_06]: I always felt like I was the underdog if you will.
[SPEAKER_06]: I will say it is Albert Brooks's likability that he infuses this character with that allows him to do one of the most heinous things I've ever seen and that is when he tells Holly Hunter about the second camera about the
[SPEAKER_06]: about the second camera for the date rape story.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is an ethical lapse in my mind for friend.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's clearly going to figure this out eventually, not necessarily the two cameras, but that she's not compatible with Tom because Tom's ethics are not compatible with her ethics.
[SPEAKER_06]: No matter how good he gets at the job,
[SPEAKER_06]: and it just felt so freaking mean this time through that it kind of bugged me not
[SPEAKER_06]: The movie's bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: It bugged me, the character had made this decision to do this to his friend.
[SPEAKER_06]: But again, he's only able to do that because we like him so much.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we're rooting for him so much.
[SPEAKER_06]: And like you said, Aaron, I like the fact that they didn't make Tom a dickhead or a jerk.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like an lazy movie would have done that.
[SPEAKER_06]: But there are reasons to root for all three of them, at least at points.
[SPEAKER_06]: I did want to mention one quote in that early scene where they don't sleep together, Holly Hunter and William hurt.
[SPEAKER_06]: She says it's hard for me to advise you since you've personified something that I think it's truly dangerous.
[SPEAKER_06]: And she says meaner stuff after that, but I thought that was a really good line and really delivered
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got to have certain actors to deliver these kind of intelligent burns that don't use like swear words or whatnot, but use large vocabulary words.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, something I picked up this view through that I had never heard before.
[SPEAKER_06]: When they're all in the newsroom, watching Tom's story about the Alan Armored Vehicle that's the military spent five billion on and it doesn't really work.
[SPEAKER_06]: He confronts the general outside a building, and the camera angle changes to the general from William Hurt.
[SPEAKER_06]: And in the background, and there's other dialogue, but in the background, I hear somebody say, so Tom rates two cameras, eh?
[SPEAKER_06]: And I have never heard that line in my entire life, and it is perfect foreshadowing for what Tom goes on to do with the date rate story and the ultimate reveal that kills his relationship.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love that Aaron doesn't call in the tips because he likes Jane.
[SPEAKER_06]: He does it because he's a fan of news and who's being as good as possible.
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was a moment of high integrity for his character.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you mentioned that quote already.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do love, I don't think you mentioned this one.
[SPEAKER_06]: When Tom says, what do you do when your real life exceeds your dreams?
[SPEAKER_06]: And Aaron goes, but to yourself.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think Aaron anchoring and everything going off the rails is hands down when the top ten funniest scenes in all film history I think it is perfect in the way that it builds that comedy when that hand comes in it's just the fear must have been dying
[SPEAKER_03]: He says hand about fifteen dollars.
[SPEAKER_06]: I love that none of them end up together again.
[SPEAKER_06]: A worse movie would find a way to put two of them together at the very end.
[SPEAKER_06]: Probably Jane, even though I don't think any of them really belong together.
[SPEAKER_06]: Tom still being so dumb at the end that he doesn't realize London is a big promotion.
[SPEAKER_06]: He stays true to character all the way through.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I read on IMDB.
[SPEAKER_06]: One other thing I definitely wanted to share is that Albert Brooks is the one that came up with the sweating profusely thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: The script apparently just said something bad happens to Aaron on the air and
[SPEAKER_06]: after having read that script.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's up late at night watching CNN.
[SPEAKER_06]: Albert Brooks is, and the season anchor he's never seen before who's sweating profusely at he called James El Brooks at three in the morning to tell him what that scene needs to be about.
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought that was a fantastic story.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this is one of my favorite movies of all time.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think there's a single thing wrong with it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you said Aaron's just a delight to watch from start to finish.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I come out of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, of course, love Albert Brooks on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like a more well-rounded version of the version he's playing of himself in in taxi driver.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where he's he's obviously pining for civil shepherd all the way through that movie, but like, you know, he comes De Niro and didn't, you know, robbing them in his dreams and everything, but.
[SPEAKER_03]: Holly Hunter on this one, I've always known that she's great in this movie, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: This particular viewing made me just fall in love with her all over again.
[SPEAKER_03]: James Elbrook said that she had not seen anything with her, and I guess she had not done that much before this, and she had a three-year hiatus
[SPEAKER_03]: it like did some stuff in the early eighties and then it was like a three year hiatus before raising Arizona came out the same year and he apparently raising Arizona had come out or had not come out yet and he was he did not seen it so he he basically felt like he had made a discovery with Holly Hunter on on this and everything but just watching how she reacts to everything when Aaron tells her that he loves her and everything and there's like this
[SPEAKER_03]: that the editing is in such a way where it doesn't cut immediately to her reaction.
[SPEAKER_03]: It lets her hear it first and then the reaction.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, that reaction she gives, that, that, that, that looks.
[SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't react immediately in the editing.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's got that look like I'm listening to what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm processing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, oh my God, what did you just say to me?
[SPEAKER_03]: And just the way that she reacts all the way through this, I think feel like it's not perfect on almost every single moment throughout.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when I went back and reviewed all the actresses who were in the Oscar race that year, I mean,
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Moonstruck had sort of like a moment in time there where everybody was just in love with that movie and they want I guess they just wanted to give share something man because that performance is good and it's very showy but it isn't all in honor in this movie I can tell you that right now if I were to retro with the Oscars I definitely would give it to her although there's like three other performances in this category I didn't see haven't seen like Meryl Streep of course was nominated
[SPEAKER_03]: for Ironweed and I haven't seen that and there's a couple others that haven't seen, but this William Hurt character is fascinating to me on many, many levels.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's someone who doesn't want to just be, he doesn't just want to be known for his looks and he wants to be respected as an anchor and everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's realizing he doesn't have to do all the things that he's hoping to do and so like I don't think he ever gets in the mode of feeling like he needs to work super hard at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's some things he's pretty clearly good at.
[SPEAKER_03]: In this, the to be able to process the information that Holly Hunter is giving him during the middle of that broadcast where he's just in the middle of the sentence and then she tells him some fact that's not going to come out of his mouth for another ten seconds or so is it's kind of an amazing thing and he and he not only takes the information but he puts it in his own words and he makes it
[SPEAKER_03]: where it's it's it's it's snapped a lot better so he's clearly good at the performance part of all of this and everything and everything that he's just dying to get good at he doesn't realize that he's needed to spend a lot more time on it he needs to be like you know breathing the news basically and he's never had to do that he's never been asked to do that
[SPEAKER_03]: because of just being good looking and whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's just always gonna feel like a fraud no matter what.
[SPEAKER_03]: But as he says, when Holly Hunter is like, you know, touch tells him that, you know, the ethics that he broke by switching the camera and turn and crying and all that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, he's like that, you know, when she talks about it and breaking the ethics, he's like, they keep moving that line just a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't the every time.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just keep moving it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like, yeah, he just, he's willing to go along with it as long as he's successful.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he knows he's a fraud, but like, yeah, I'd like to know what people think really of his character in the end because he kind of ingratiates himself through the way he does in the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a fraud.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you I'm a fraud, but you know, because I admit it and I'm good looking, I think you're going to, you're going to forgive me for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what keeps happening all the way through this and you know, to be able to get the number one anchor job at the end and not really know the news that you're
[SPEAKER_03]: You're, you're saying out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're, you don't know what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: God, that's such a huge statement.
[SPEAKER_03]: This movie is making.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want that scene in her bedroom where she realizes he's dumb.
[SPEAKER_06]: But he's like, no, you keep thinking I'm somebody who lacks confidence.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I forget exactly how he phrases it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But he's like, I don't even understand the news.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm, I need to like, come often.
[SPEAKER_06]: You heard facial expression changes like, whoa, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't understand the news you're reading.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's got imposter syndrome, but it's because he's an actual imposter.
[SPEAKER_06]: At least as a newsman, as a news reader, he shouldn't because he's very good at that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, as long as he's got somebody in his ear, he's going to be fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, and then at the end, I don't know what to think of Holly Hunter taking that job at the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, it's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: it makes sense because she's driven to be in this business and make the impact that she wants but she's going to be again she's going to be falling into that trap of well this guy doesn't really know the news really at all and I'm going to just keep feeding him the lines the entire time and he's going to take the credit for it the entire time
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that ending to me is all sorts of emotions at the end because you know it's the expected Hollywood ending is to get one of them together and none of them end up together and then they're taking jobs that they don't really
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, William Hurts getting the job he wants, obviously, but Hunter is not getting, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's going to have, she's basically having to face the fact that she's going to have to be okay with these frauds that's read the news, and then she's going to have to be the backbone of these people when it comes down to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, movie, says a lot without saying everything right in your face at the very end of it, and very much appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_03]: James Elbrux man what a what a career he had had up until this point his life is going to change completely even though he had he was the driving force of the Mary Tyler Moore show he was on taxi he did terms of endearment and won all the Oscars for that and then he does this movie and it's not as big of a hit and it doesn't do much at the Oscars but then he produces the Tracy Olman show which leads to the Simpsons which that
[SPEAKER_03]: basically the capper on this guy's life.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just read the other day.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I think it was over the weekend that Matt when Tracy Olman show us Matt graining to adapt his life is something.
[SPEAKER_06]: life in hell life in hell.
[SPEAKER_06]: He didn't he was worried that it would be corrupted so he scrambled and came up with a Simpson's instead.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the biggest you never know of all time.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's back this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a new movie out for the first time in fifteen years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, wrote directed and produced all of his movies.
[SPEAKER_06]: After I fell in love with broadcast news, I wasn't watched all of his movies.
[SPEAKER_06]: All of them have something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Some heartbeat, you can connect to even that Nick Nolti one, which is the worst of the bunch.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I'll do anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: But as good as it gets, it's really good.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah, we're just looking at what Nicholson, um, but yeah, I went through and watched all of them, uh, and came away thinking he was a really good director.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's when it comes out.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Interesting to say what he can come up with now that he's, uh, take eighty five years old.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but, uh, all right, let's get on to our super secret double feature.
[SPEAKER_05]: be very, very quiet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Secret.
[SPEAKER_05]: Watch secret.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gary, little secret.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you something I've never told anyone.
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you guys think?
[SPEAKER_06]: Aaron, I have four that I think are really solid, so I'm gonna let you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have one that is just too perfect for me not to use.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, for in my opinion, and that is his girlfriend, eh.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, like, totally, if you want kind of the same viewing experience in the same genre, this is a perfect double feature.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got Carrie Grant,
[SPEAKER_02]: and Rosalind Russell as the primary character's carry grand and plays Walter and she is hilly and they have divorced but the movie is about him wooing her back as she is getting ready to be engaged to somebody else but it takes place in newspaper journalism not in television journalism and there are some of the same themes
[SPEAKER_02]: in the background of this movie that is a sensibly a love story, but there's a lot else going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, if you want great dialogue and lines in moments like you have in broadcast news, this movie is full of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mile a minute, great clever stuff going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a Howard Hawks movie and there's this great
[SPEAKER_02]: fourth wall kind of met a joke in this movie that I do we think that meta is something new but you know it's been going on a while uh oh and Ralph Bellamy plays the perspective husband Bruce Baldwin and at one point somebody asks Kerry Grant what her fiance looks like and he said I like a Ralph Bellamy type
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and mentions the actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's also a play on the fact that apparently Ralph Bellamy was typecast as this kind of guy and like every movie he was in.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he was the same exact thing in the awful true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with the same with character.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, just a really funny movie deals in the same world of journalism and some of those ethics and yeah, lots of fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: We did this.
[SPEAKER_06]: We did this on this podcast, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was episode sixty five according to what I was looking at.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's that's how I remember this movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I need to watch it more.
[SPEAKER_06]: I really liked it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember liking it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's so fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was my takeaway with that.
[SPEAKER_06]: that girl jumping out of the window.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure if it's this one, or if it's the awful truth, but there's another meta thing where he says something like, that reminds me, my old friend, Archie Leach, which is, you know, of course is real name.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, the old meta thing has been a thing for quite some time.
[SPEAKER_03]: They used to do it a lot back in the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: They do it more back than in the day than they do now.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway,
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeremy, what do you got?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a good call.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to tell you three, but my main one, I'm going to give you first, because I think what I wanted to do with my double feature was find a modern film that talks about what news is, what it's becoming, and how it may be corrupted.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, totally, we're not going to match here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Topically, I think we will and that's night crawler.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was my second choice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: It makes me very happy.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is not going to have any of the comedy or the romance, but it is a very modern look at I think the same issue that this movie broadcast news is looking at and how.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Jake Jillon Hall, if it leads, if it leads, it leads, but how is Jake Jillon Hall to believe he begins manipulating the news footage that he is selling?
[SPEAKER_06]: I just think they'd go hand in hand if we were going to have a sit down discussion afterwards about the news.
[SPEAKER_06]: I really wanted to go
[SPEAKER_06]: with the corruption of something pure that had a love triangle.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I flirted with reality bites for a good walk.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think it would have been fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I don't like that movie enough.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then if I was going to go with tone,
[SPEAKER_06]: that still had the theme of the corruption of something pure, and I thought Erin, you might use quish show.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, was another movement I thought of.
[SPEAKER_06]: But night crawler, I think if I was programming this festival, that would be my double feature for broadcast news, and we span, you know, forty some years, two looks at the same problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a, that would be an excellent double feature.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love the whip lash that that causes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what made me think of it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Very specific scene in broadcast news that made me think of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all standing in the hallway and the Albert Brooks character lays out a scenario.
[SPEAKER_02]: I forget the specific scenario.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, what would you do?
[SPEAKER_06]: Would you film the guy out of the electric chair?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, electric chair.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got permission in all of them are like, yeah, obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he ends up going
[SPEAKER_02]: Aren't ethical conversations fun or whatever he thesis at the end of that and that reminded me of night crawler so much if it leads a bleeds kind of thing and that's what kind of got me thinking in that zone, but yeah, it's a good call.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go on to what our next week's homework is and I believe it is Jeremy's turn.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Jeremy, what do you got for us?
[SPEAKER_06]: Back in the day, in the early days of recitopia, I big recommended a donny young movie called Eep Man.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a country movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it does have a little bit of humor, but it's played pretty straightforward.
[SPEAKER_06]: So here I am coming back to Donnie and one of my favorite movies ever.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we're going to want Iron Monkey from nineteen ninety.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is, I want if you, if you are offering me a with this film, this, the Kung Fu in this movie is awesome, but some of it is enhanced by magic.
[SPEAKER_06]: and sort of like crouching tiger hidden dragon, but more comedic.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the overall tone of the film is gonna be more fun as opposed to serious and dramatic.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is basically a Robin Hood story in ancient China.
[SPEAKER_06]: Two of the characters, Donnie Ann and his son, they're both real people in real life.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're being fictionalized here who were renowned martial artists in this era of the film take place in
[SPEAKER_06]: And basically they are brought in or basically forced to try and hunt down the iron monkey, the Robin Hood, who is robbing from the rich and giving to the poor.
[SPEAKER_06]: I can't wait to watch this movie against been good five years.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's on Pluto TV for free.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, directed by let me get the name right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, the martial arts coordinator, fight coordinator on the Matrix movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was the the whole wire food stuff was because of him.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, see at least he's popularized by him.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you'll see some of that wire work in Iron Monkey as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: So
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's your homework.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so I can't remember if I've even seen this movie honestly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I have, but the tone isn't like kung fu hustle though.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like lootunes kind of comedy.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not slapstick.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just
[SPEAKER_06]: There's more quips in the fighting, just like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, you need to know that some of these guys, as they go through the bosses, some of them are going to be able to do things that appear to be inspired by magic, which is fairly common in Kung Fu lore and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I just didn't want to be doing it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thinking it was just going to be two people on the ground kicking, because some of them are too fly.
[SPEAKER_02]: his expression of martial arts movies to people on the ground kicking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: People have an asslapped voice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to check this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: At least I'm pretty sure I've never seen this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you will find it to be a very Jeremy movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can't spell Kung Fun without Kung Fu.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so true.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of things.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to do it for this week chat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once again, thanks for coming out and watching us talk about movies today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate you very much for coming out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can't wait to talk about Iron Monkey next week, but we'll see you next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: See you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, the pandemic basically got me and my wife, we could each other's hair now.
[SPEAKER_06]: So she's got a very simple, she doesn't really style her hair much.
[SPEAKER_06]: She puts it up in a bun and goes about her day.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so whenever it gets too long, I trim it for her and then she'll buzz my hair and trim my neck and all of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: She didn't even have to go to
[SPEAKER_06]: Whatever the school they go to, but she's turned into quite a little hair cutter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if all I need to do is this, just buzz it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, I only haven't been to a proper haircut in probably five years.
[SPEAKER_06]: It saves money, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it saves money.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it helps that I don't really go anywhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: And when I do, I don't really care how nice I look.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So if I'm going to go, even if I were to go to like a Ruth Chris state dinner, I would still wear a ball cap and a t-shirt.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's just how much comfortable.
[SPEAKER_06]: So okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's uh, I think if you ever do decide to go back, you will be shocked at how much it costs to get just a basic haircut.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's the last time I felt like it was like fifteen fourteen maybe twelve dollars.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could probably find a great clips haircut for twenty five.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, I have to look.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe twenty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those tariffs on those hair clippers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I pay fifty for mine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but it's only every ten weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I justify that as you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty five bucks a month kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you probably also are getting like a shampoo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's full service.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get a massage all sorts of wonderful things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I did get a gift card.
[SPEAKER_06]: This was years ago to sport clips, which is basically they put sports on TVs on the wall and charging more.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that was the first time.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm so like rural.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was the first time I'd ever gotten a shampoo before I got a haircut.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I felt like I was the king.
[SPEAKER_06]: I felt like I felt every bit of that pampering.
[SPEAKER_02]: You felt like you were the godfather and Italian barber shop.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the shades and great feeling.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I understand why people do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I get totally get it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's very relaxed.
[SPEAKER_06]: Even without a massage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she always uses a straight razor on my, like, neck hair or, you know, that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's always interesting, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's trust, right there.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's trust.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yep, didn't you just mention Al Capone?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned the Godfather, but yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, there's this in on touchables.
[SPEAKER_06]: He gets his he's getting shaved with a straight razor in the guy next to him.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, everyone thinks he's going to kill him.
[SPEAKER_06]: He know what I don't even understand a little bit burning man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like burning man is going on right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happens is when you when you put flame to something it burn.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand burning man.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't get why it started.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't get how how it's popular.
[SPEAKER_06]: It sounds like the most miserable.
[SPEAKER_06]: few days I could possibly imagine it's either arid and dusty and hot and everyone is smelly and sweaty or it rains and everything's flooded and muddy and you can't leave for it extra couple days.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no central point other than the large titular burning man, which I think happens at the end.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think there's some music.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think there's arts and crafts and I think there's tents and drugs and it just makes no sense to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like a music festival makes sense to me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, Bonnaroo, I would never go.
[SPEAKER_06]: It sounds like hell, but at least, hey, there's bands you like and you make new friends and you dance around with neon stuff and take drugs.
[SPEAKER_06]: I understand why you would go to that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't understand why you would go to Burning Man.
[SPEAKER_06]: You gotta go seven hours out of your way to the desert.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then what are we doing?
[SPEAKER_06]: What are we doing while we're there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a little bit of like anarchy to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a little bit of, you know, just to come be the exact representation of your hippie dipy self and, you know, like, there's one of those, like, super accepting, like, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, I mean, that's always been the impression I get is that the idea is just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, let your freak flag fly.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a place where you can just do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, they put that they apparently had a huge dust storm that like got inside everybody's RVs, even with closed windows.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right in saying maybe they could have been a little better in picking the location.
[SPEAKER_06]: Here's Google's AI overview, which I'm sure we can trust.
[SPEAKER_06]: The point of the opponent burning man is multifaceted, Aaron.
[SPEAKER_06]: Of course, annual event and a global cultural movement focused on community art, self-expression.
[SPEAKER_02]: Self-expression.
[SPEAKER_02]: Self-reliance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a very, it feels like a very tribal thing, just like a very essence of, you know, existence and
[SPEAKER_06]: But it's core is about experiencing radical self-expression, radical.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the impression I get is just like, it's, you know, come, let your freak flag fly, you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: It looks like Mad Max.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad they all have freak flags that they get to fly.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm proud of them.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to be there.
[SPEAKER_06]: I got other ways to fly my flags.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it'd be some incredible people watching.
[SPEAKER_06]: But in a hundred and ten degrees.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the environment.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: With I'm sure we're using portapodies this whole time.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's got to be fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you want, spot the spot wherever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: What if my radical self expression is not using the portapody?
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's going to arrest you for it's burning man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trying to think like the closest thing I've ever done to Burning Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would have to be like summer camps, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's just say church camps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's weird stuff goes on at church camps, summer camps.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's plenty of freak flags flying at the church camp, least than I went.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Lots of self-expression.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Remember a guy who always wore a white t-shirt with a giant, three-D nose sticking out of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it stuck out like a quilted.
[SPEAKER_06]: Amazing.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you didn't miss anything except me bitching about Burning Man, which is something I've never even been to, so I don't really like it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I need to do a lot of things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if I'm here well within the time range, it's like, yeah, everything's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're here in a Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because sometimes that's when my computer decides to do stuff right before the episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, it did not have anything saying there's updates that needed to be installed or anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what ever reason Adobe Cloud was just the the whole desktop was just blank.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wouldn't let me click on anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like,
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, if it's gonna keep doing that I guess I'll just restart the computer and then when I restarted it it was like blah blah blah blah don't turn off the computer blah blah blah blah don't turn it off and I was like I did turn it off because I was tired of it Doing it's thing and then when I turned it back on it was just like blah blah blah don't turn off the computer blah blah blah I was like how did you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: We all have computers.
[SPEAKER_06]: We all have computers