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[SPEAKER_07]: Shotsmith, Pearson, Jody Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Jody.
[SPEAKER_12]: Hey, Sean.
[SPEAKER_05]: Little bit more subdued.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's been a roller coaster of a news day today, huh?
[SPEAKER_12]: It certainly has.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a lot of highs, a lot of lows, a lot of curveballs.
[SPEAKER_05]: Seriously, I enjoy roller coasters when I get to ride them.
[SPEAKER_05]: right in the news roll in the coaster is not nearly as much fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: But look, we will try to make it fun for you who are coming into the bar tonight.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yes, it is one of those days, or as I call them whenever there's a mass shooting another day that ends in why, because they do all in in why.
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, as in why the hell are we doing it this way?
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, we're stupid.
[SPEAKER_12]: We're just stupid.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have done for those of you who who remember that I worked with Randy for most of fifteen years.
[SPEAKER_05]: So when Sandy Hook happened in twenty twelve, it's interesting we had Nicole Samler in yesterday because the day that happened was I believe that the beginning of the week that Randy was taking a week off Nicole was filling in.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I wrote a piece for Randy's then website that became kind of a reference piece for a lot of people in the media, obviously Randy's site from, from that iteration is long gone.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it was known as the five components of American gun violence.
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe either Gifords or maybe every town did a version of that, a more modern version.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I dug it up for my archives.
[SPEAKER_05]: The shooting of Minneapolis, I mean, it's.
[SPEAKER_05]: The facts for those of you who missed it, maybe you were busy, maybe you're doing something else today.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's a shooting of Minneapolis at a church at the touch to a school.
[SPEAKER_05]: The shooter was shooting from outside the church through the stained glass windows.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, the doors were barred.
[SPEAKER_05]: They were barricaded.
[SPEAKER_05]: You couldn't have gotten in the doors.
[SPEAKER_05]: He tried, I guess, didn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: He had a rifle shot gun, a pistol used them all.
[SPEAKER_05]: White guy in his early twenties.
[SPEAKER_05]: Two kids, eight and ten were killed.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shooter killed himself, a seventeen.
[SPEAKER_12]: Why can't they just kill themselves before they go on their rampage?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or why don't we just, you know, do like every other serious country that actually cares about gun safety.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when when when when when when you talk about this topic?
[SPEAKER_05]: It always involves into, we should take away all the guns.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we can't take away all the guns because of, so here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is, this is the entire reason why I created the five components of gun violence.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because both sides are to an extent that neither side oftentimes wants to admit correct.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are places in this country where the nearest law enforcement officials are half an hour and hour, two hours, four hours away.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you need it for things like bears and wolves.
[SPEAKER_05]: You need to have a gun for a very nice animals.
[SPEAKER_12]: They won't hurt you.
[SPEAKER_05]: If they're ill, then not so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it isn't different with their tacky or a bear who bears don't generally, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: The idea is there are places where they are needed.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we are making, when we make laws, we make laws for the whole country.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there are lots of other countries around the world that have done lots of things to make having guns as part of the populist, a lot safer.
[SPEAKER_05]: We were talking as we were coming to the bar, you Jody hit on the exact same thing that Randy always used to hit on.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's a well regulated militia people and that's the part of the second amendment, apparently the second amendment people forget about.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, the the NRA freaks and the the second amendment the gun freaks always hate about that park a well regulated militia that said there are a lot of gun owners who are more responsible and the more responsible gun owners have been getting increasingly more pissed off depending on what poll you look at it's anywhere from seventy to ninety percent of Americans that want
[SPEAKER_05]: better gun safety laws.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is this is a part of the framing and this is what we'll talk a little bit later about some of the other things including the the Cracker Barrel story because Parker Maloy had a really telling piece at her sub stack.
[SPEAKER_05]: We had her on last week.
[SPEAKER_05]: She was talking about some of this stuff about how the right pushes things.
[SPEAKER_05]: They pushed it with Cracker Barrel.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll show you that, but they push it with guns all the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have for God fifty years at least.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the thing that they push is, oh, it's more or less laws.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shorty.
[SPEAKER_05]: Have you ever, you know, been on a race driving course or gotten any teaching for race driving, finding the movies or TV shows or anything you've done and you.
[SPEAKER_12]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you know that there are actually three kinds of of acceleration or deceleration that most race drivers race teachers think of?
[SPEAKER_12]: Did not know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there's acceleration.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's breaking and there's what's called drift.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's when you're not on the break, but you let your foot off the gas.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're not completely off the gas.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're just not pushing through it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's more than just more or less when it comes to laws.
[SPEAKER_05]: How about better?
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: How about better?
[SPEAKER_05]: How about more effective?
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, when we had the assault weapons ban, it was effective.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_12]: And we'll have those tears soon.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's say that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you can proudly wear your Jodi's right shirt.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you meet up with somebody else that has a Chris's right shirt, the two of you could argue and then bite to the coffee.
[SPEAKER_12]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_12]: But we're going to have the store up soon.
[SPEAKER_12]: But yeah, I mean, the assault weapons band worked.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_12]: The Brady Bill worked.
[SPEAKER_12]: These things worked.
[SPEAKER_12]: And then they were not, they were just, they were set to expire and they were never renewed.
[SPEAKER_12]: And that's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the five components of gun violence that I've been talking about that I created years ago was written in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre literally hours afterwards because it was just something that needed to be done.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll maybe take it up and and
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe you see about putting a version of it on our site in an updated version.
[SPEAKER_05]: But for now, I'll just go through them real quick here.
[SPEAKER_05]: The five components are ineffective gun safety laws, sub-optimal mental health care systems, corrupt lobbying and political finance systems, questionable media ethics, and poverty and inequality.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you have all of these things, you are going to have gun violence the way that we do in the United States.
[SPEAKER_05]: Simply taking away the guns isn't going to fix the mental health care issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: And yes, the right uses that as a dummy.
[SPEAKER_05]: They use it and they say, see that's bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there is, but if they actually cared about mental health care, they wouldn't be doing things like taking away Medicare and Medicaid in the ACA.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we know they're full of crap when they say that, but they're at least not wrong, which for them is better than nothing I suppose.
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's also the corrupt lobbying political finances.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're hitting on that, Joe.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the fact that some of these laws that we've had worked, but because of the corrupt lobbying and political finance systems, conveniently we let some of these laws go in certain states.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I realize that some people are like, oh, yeah, well, well, you know, how about many soda for those people want to know, we put up the info from every town and from Gifords.
[SPEAKER_05]: Minnesota ranks number fourteen in the country for gun safety law strength.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there are things that Minnesota does well.
[SPEAKER_05]: They do really well with gun safety.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Gifords list has a whole bunch of stuff, but there are other things that they still need to do like getting a permit to purchase long guns rifles.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... they need lost in stolen firearm reporting we need a national system for that uh... bulk firearm purchased restrictions that you can check out the whole list it's there at the news on tap at the leave all the guns at the guy had were legally obtained right yeah as far as as far as i've been able to hear and that's that's the other thing to so when you're talking about a subject like this
[SPEAKER_05]: It is just like it is a fog of war.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a fog of chaos that happens in the wake of mass shootings like this.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is going to be misinformation and disinformation and confusion.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you don't have to report on it, if you don't have to talk about it, the best thing that you can do is talk around it or shut up about it for a little bit and wait until people actually have the facts out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wait until you can get the facts.
[SPEAKER_05]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_05]: Trust sources like the Star Tribune, the Star Tribune up there in AM-Nine-Fifty Country Minneapolis, Saint Paul.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're going to have a lot of facts because that's their backyard.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, yeah, they're local, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can trust AM-Nine-Fifty.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can trust some of the local TV stations that are there too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those are the people who are on the ground.
[SPEAKER_05]: As much as I enjoy being national, as much as I enjoy our bar being national, even international.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're not there, you don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's kind of the big topic of the day.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is the gigantic elephant in the room.
[SPEAKER_05]: We always have to address those kinds of things when they happen because that's just
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what we have to do.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He said it was great to hear Nicole Stanley yesterday.
[SPEAKER_05]: He also noted a TV note for for you specifically, Jody.
[SPEAKER_05]: He said they recast gladis cravots on bewitched as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: They did.
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[SPEAKER_05]: there you go, but see that's so as there are there are the things that go on, even even when there are dark times, even when there's dark stuff, you know, we're not shaming anybody about when when we say some of these things, but we do gotta say you gotta get up and you gotta fight.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now one of the reasons we say that is because there is some good news that we were we were gonna lead off originally before
[SPEAKER_05]: The shooting happened and I'm I'm really glad about this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would Democrats have been celebrating the win of Caitlyn Dre who won a massive upset in the special election there in Iowa.
[SPEAKER_12]: That was great to wake up to this morning.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was just freaking fantastic.
[SPEAKER_12]: I'm like clobbered the other guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe it was a ten point win originally for for Trump last year.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think it was twenty points and she went by ten and then she won by ten.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so we're talking thirty points shift.
[SPEAKER_05]: J. D. Schulten local Iowa guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: You may know he he just recently stepped back for running for the Senate seat there.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he could pump up somebody else to run for the Senate seat there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which is great.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's that's the kind of team work that we need.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he was posting about this and he said the credit for Caitlin Dre's win goes to these people in order.
[SPEAKER_05]: Caitlin Dre.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Iowa Senate Democrats the Woodbury County Democrats.
[SPEAKER_05]: I might reverse that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But and then he said far, far down the list or national groups who are trying to exaggerate their efforts.
[SPEAKER_05]: and there are a number of outside groups who are.
[SPEAKER_05]: The DNC remember deals with presidential stuff so they didn't deal with this particular thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is a national democratic committee that deals with state races and they didn't have as much influence as I would have liked to see them have.
[SPEAKER_05]: But she won.
[SPEAKER_05]: She won and you know what?
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: She deserves applause.
[SPEAKER_12]: They probably figured the national folks probably figured it was such a losing
[SPEAKER_05]: right why bother boring money into it which is an understandable but the thing is if you don't fight you don't win exactly so i am thrilled the Caitlyn dragon out there and one i am also thrilled because it breaks the super majority of the i would probably yeah
[SPEAKER_05]: That's another thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: So now the Iowa governor who is a cloud.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like her at all, but she has to ask permission from the Democrats now whether she wants to get people whether she wants her install somebody in the executive offices of the state of Iowa.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's she has to ask Iowa Democrats for a lot of stuff now because the Democrats that are in their Senate.
[SPEAKER_05]: None of them really wish Washington.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're not going to change parties.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's
[SPEAKER_05]: Ha, see?
[SPEAKER_05]: There are some good things.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got actually another good piece of election news after this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Told you, it's a roller coaster, so look.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bucking yourself in.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hang on, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Get your drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just make sure it's in one of those non-spillable things, all right?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we will also get you is more of a news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, Jody.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you know there was an election in Georgia yesterday?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: I heard there was a Georgia state special election.
[SPEAKER_05]: It went to a September runoff.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of I think they have kind of the the jungle primary like they do in California.
[SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And seven candidates the lone Democrat placed first with forty percent of the vote.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nobody else got more than I think, like, fifteen percent.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's great news.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's great news because it's very possibly another pickup for another Democrat in Georgia.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that also tends to lead to, there are some people out there who do some great stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you go to Bolts, I believe it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bolts mag.
[SPEAKER_05]: They do fantastic election stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Taneal is the guy, but that's what he used to go buy on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure what he goes by now.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's Daniel Nishanian, I believe it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's some great election stuff, the great election coverage.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's noticed.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Democrats are winning in a lot of places now.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's why Republicans want to fix the twenty six election.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's that's why they want to do the whole redistricting worse thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: But thankfully the NAACP is stepping up in Texas already suing them.
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe
[SPEAKER_05]: Mark Elias' group is suing them as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's going to be all kinds of things and remember folks, here's the key.
[SPEAKER_05]: If those cases and that map are not locked in before December eighth, believe it's December eighth of this year, all of it is moot.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was part of what the Texas Democrats did.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you're thinking, well, it's a lost cause.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a lost cause.
[SPEAKER_05]: Remember, you don't get what you don't fight for.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got to fight.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got to stand up for what you believe.
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, NAACP believes in fair districts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mark lies, police and fair districts.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're standing up.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're fighting.
[SPEAKER_05]: They can drag that fight out through December.
[SPEAKER_05]: Texas Republicans are going to lose that battle.
[SPEAKER_12]: I hope so.
[SPEAKER_05]: I hope so too.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's.
[SPEAKER_12]: And if they do, and then California votes, yes, I'm proud.
[SPEAKER_12]: Fifty.
[SPEAKER_12]: Then we gain some seats.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think Trump has been here.
[SPEAKER_05]: We also have this in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Trump privately pressed Indian and Republicans.
[SPEAKER_05]: But remember, we talked about this yesterday.
[SPEAKER_05]: We talked in the cold about this, too, about how Republicans there are extremely uneasy because more and more people in their state, Republican voters, as well as independence and Democrats, are saying enough of this crap.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's happening across the country.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is happening in a similar way to how delusional Donnie
[SPEAKER_05]: is starting to get, um, hoist by his own petard shall we say.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm really, I'm really glad about this because people are worried.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think maybe rightfully so because, you know, Trump is is he's out there and and he's saying crap.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's saying crap like this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't love
[SPEAKER_04]: Not that I don't have a right to do anything I want to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm the president of the United States, so I think our country is in danger.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it is in danger in these cities.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can do it.
[SPEAKER_12]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, you can't, Donnie.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's so if you're the president, it's not illegal.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's so Nixonian.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's exactly what he's saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is exactly what Johnny is right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Johnny is right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's look.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't even have to translate the words that far.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, drives me nuts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: He thinks I can do it over how I want.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, this is a record did allow it.
[SPEAKER_05]: To some degree, but again, not entirely.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you don't fight back, then you don't win.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, by the way, remember when we had Chris Geidner in here, but a month, month and a half ago, something like that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we said that the Supreme Court's decision on some of these nationwide injunctions was going to come back to bite them in the ass.
[SPEAKER_05]: I saw it last night.
[SPEAKER_05]: He saw it, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a, I'll have to get it and put it in the news on Tap tomorrow and we have a little more space or maybe Friday.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because yes, it's already happening.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was a hundred percent correct.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm very glad that we have good guests like that in here who can see weeks and months into the future and be like, yeah, that's going to bite you in the ass.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the reason I know this is because, well, Trump, he had another line too yesterday in his, what they held you want to call that cabinet meeting.
[SPEAKER_12]: Um, uh, bowing to the king meeting.
[SPEAKER_12]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but it's like it was like three plus hours.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's I mean, it was insane.
[SPEAKER_12]: It was a marathon of BS and these pedophile pathetic adults, saying what they said lying about things and not knowing how to pronounce Nobel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, oh my god, if you did you, okay, here you let me play the Steve Whitkoff, who is the guy who Trump sends all over the world to kiss all the other, who other leaders, he's effectively the Secretary of State, even though Marco Rubio is still thirsting for the job.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, did I say to you?
[SPEAKER_05]: So, so Whitkoff was kissing Trump's ass this way in the cabinet meeting yesterday, and he couldn't even say, well, let's, let's see if you figure out which word he gets wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's only one thing I wish for, but that noble committee,
[SPEAKER_03]: finally gets its act together and realizes that you are the single finest candidate since the noble piece, this noble award was ever talked about.
[SPEAKER_12]: Children know how to say that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it's no bell.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look, I, when I go to my, it might also be noble, but it's a Nobel Peace Prize.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, it's the Nobel, when I go to my mailboxes in my apartment complex.
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, I look it up.
[SPEAKER_05]: I joke sometimes.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some kids in the in the neighborhood and you know, I'll joke and I'll be like, woohoo!
[SPEAKER_05]: And they go, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, I got the Nobel Prize today.
[SPEAKER_12]: Because I didn't get a Nobel Prize.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: No bills in the mail means I got a Nobel Prize.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or some of them can come through email.
[SPEAKER_05]: But look at least I didn't get them in the mailbox.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got a Nobel Prize because no bill sounds closer to Nobel.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it definitely is not Nobel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the reason I was, I'm kind of excited is because we've been talking about how some of the local people can actually start affecting some of the change, some of the local officials, the local authorities.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look, I mean, DC's different story.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got this story in the news on tap of day two.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Trump regime is trying to extend their occupation of DC by taking management of a union station away from Amtrak.
[SPEAKER_12]: Okay, this is more socialism.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, also, Amtrak is owned by the government.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Union station is owned by the government.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Department of Transportation is part of the government.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is not anybody.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm taking this away from you.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is literally somebody on your own team.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're not taking anything away from anybody.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're just changing who's responsible for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But boy, oh, look at how big and tough I am.
[SPEAKER_05]: I took it away from them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, they are you.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you took it from your left hand and you put it in your right hand.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's, that makes you a tough.
[SPEAKER_05]: I bet you don't floss either, anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, people who that like that just drive me nuts.
[SPEAKER_05]: But, okay, have you ever heard, here's another example of the stupidity and the reason why I constantly say this is stupid fascism,
[SPEAKER_05]: You ever heard the phrase that's a district attorney that they could indict a ham sandwich.
[SPEAKER_12]: And not this not this DOJ.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Trump's DC US attorney, Janine box of wine, Piro has been brutally mocked.
[SPEAKER_05]: You had this, I think you sent me this yesterday.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got it in because we had space today.
[SPEAKER_05]: The guy who tried to hit the officer with the sandwich, they couldn't even divide him.
[SPEAKER_12]: No.
[SPEAKER_12]: They haven't been able to indict people in Los Angeles.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_12]: They're indictment rate, normally is around ninety seven, ninety eight percent because it's not that hard to indict somebody.
[SPEAKER_12]: You don't have to have an overwhelming amount of proof, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_12]: You just have to have enough proof to say, yes, you can go to trial.
[SPEAKER_12]: And grandjuries are notoriously prosecution
[SPEAKER_12]: afraid that they're they're friendly to the prosecution side in the defense.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I see what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_12]: Sorry, because they mainly just get that evidence.
[SPEAKER_12]: They don't get an unless a defendant comes in and testifies.
[SPEAKER_12]: They don't get any evidence from the defense.
[SPEAKER_12]: They only get it from the prosecution.
[SPEAKER_12]: So it's a prosecution favored process.
[SPEAKER_12]: And so to not get true bills on, I think out of thirty three people that were
[SPEAKER_12]: indicted in Los Angeles.
[SPEAKER_12]: They only got two true bills.
[SPEAKER_05]: And true bill means that it goes through.
[SPEAKER_05]: They tried guys.
[SPEAKER_05]: They said we we think you did this crime and then did you do the crime and we'll take it to to an actual court to see and you're saying of the thirty three thirty one they went.
[SPEAKER_12]: And then I think that with the sandwich guy, didn't they try it?
[SPEAKER_12]: Didn't they try to do it twice?
[SPEAKER_12]: Three times.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, three times was a charm.
[SPEAKER_12]: Janine, it's not working.
[SPEAKER_05]: Janine back to line.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry, but you denied.
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: So obviously, that there is, there's concern in DC because DC is, it doesn't have the power that a lot of other places in the country do.
[SPEAKER_05]: We still haven't heard back from LA from the lawsuit out there that that Newsom and the California government did about Pasicamatatus.
[SPEAKER_05]: At some point, we will hear back about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I am hoping that if the ruling is written correctly, that it will pretty much block everywhere except DC.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because that's, unfortunately, I wish it would take DC too, but DC is federal territory.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
[SPEAKER_05]: But here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we know the good folks in Chicago have been standing up.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have been very, very blessed to see our friends in WCPT AMA, twenty land, having a good solid stand up there with their governor and their mayor.
[SPEAKER_05]: But Trump's kind of threatened Philly a little bit too.
[SPEAKER_05]: And their district attorney there, Krasner, stated, what a lot of other people like us have been talking about behind the scenes that if Trump decides to send in the National Guard to some of these cities, they're not only going to have to worry about localized violence, they're going to have to worry about the localized and the state law.
[SPEAKER_00]: If what you have is a group of ICE agents or you even have the military coming into Philadelphia and they're committing crimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're committing assaults that are illegal homicides that are illegal, that kidnapping people.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're engaging in unlawful restraint, which is a crime in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're obstructing the administration of justice.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have people coming in, military ICE whoever it is acting beyond their legal authority, they can be prosecuted assuming they commit crimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: in state court, and they cannot be pardoned by the president, which means they get to tell a Philadelphia jury exactly why it is, but they thought they could invade this city, and they get to bear the consequences, whether they are handcuffs, a jury trial, or a jail sentence.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hello little kitty.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello Daisy girl.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that that is that is the big thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got to remember every national guard person, everybody that they send who works at a federal agency, whether it's the FBI, whether it's eyes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, some of these people are monsters.
[SPEAKER_05]: Most of them aren't.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, as you said, your friend, she works, she works there.
[SPEAKER_05]: She does paperwork.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's not a monster.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Most of the people want to go and do their job and go home.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's just what they want to do.
[SPEAKER_05]: But what Krasner is making very clear and what others have been quietly saying, he set out loud there, which is if Donald Trump decides to send the National Guard or some other federal forces into our city to do things that are illegal according to our laws, the laws of our cities and our states, we have the ability because of the tenth amendment.
[SPEAKER_05]: to round their asses up and lock them up and prosecute them as well.
[SPEAKER_12]: Just following orders didn't work for another regime.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it won't work and it won't work here.
[SPEAKER_12]: It didn't work for Oppa Graib.
[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, it just, you know, it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And here's the thing is that every single one of those people
[SPEAKER_05]: If Trump says, well, I'm going to, I'm going to send off this national guard group off to Chicago.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to send them off to Philly.
[SPEAKER_05]: You guys ask yourself, this was a, this is a weekend gig for you once a month, two weeks a year.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got a business.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got a family.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You want to end your ass up in jail for six months because you were cold to go do something.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was illegal.
[SPEAKER_05]: And instead of saying, no, I'm not going to do the illegal thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: You decided to follow orders.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then Larry Crasner locks your ass up and says, good luck with that.
[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, and then the ice agents apparently aren't getting their signing bonuses right now.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we're promised all this extra money.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_12]: And they're not getting it.
[SPEAKER_12]: So a lot of these men, uh, these little cosplayers are displeased.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_12]: And they're king.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's just it folks.
[SPEAKER_05]: We get afraid because we don't understand the complexity and that is what fascism, that's what fascism counts on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: They count on the fact of you not paying attention to all the details and that's one of the things we try to help you see is some of the details.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there's some bad news, but there is some good signs out there, and hopefully you have now seen a few of them.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is one of the things that we do.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got plenty more news on Tap tonight.
[SPEAKER_05]: We do have Bob Cesca.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yay!
[SPEAKER_05]: I am so glad that Bob is back from his vacation.
[SPEAKER_05]: You've been having fun with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Have fun with him yesterday.
[SPEAKER_12]: We had so much fun yesterday.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, tonight we're all going to have fun here at the politics.
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[SPEAKER_12]: It's going to be a blast.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly, I think it's a real banger.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, totally.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's some up.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some going around the bend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, Jody.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we've been kind of joking about this bang and joke or this a bang and bang and drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it is a bang and drink.
[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, I think it's an old person drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have, I never thought of it as an old person drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought of it for some reason and I don't know why he's a comedian's drink when I was a kid.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, I don't know why I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. What's the funny name?
[SPEAKER_05]: So I suppose, I suppose.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what, what is the name of the drink of the day?
[SPEAKER_12]: It's a Harvey Wall vanger.
[SPEAKER_05]: Harvey wall banger baby.
[SPEAKER_12]: I think I've said this before any any drink that has the word wall in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_12]: Galliano is in it.
[SPEAKER_12]: Exactly because that that alcohol if you guys look at a bottle in a bar.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's the tallest bottle and it's usually on a top shelf, but and it's always against the wall because it's the tallest bottle.
[SPEAKER_12]: And you can put shorter bottles in front of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: What's by the way, what's what's JD van says version of a Harvey wall banger.
[SPEAKER_12]: couch banger.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, come on.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's obvious.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just sitting right there like JD.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry about that.
[SPEAKER_12]: Just we did this because apparently in today in eighteen and three.
[SPEAKER_05]: I. Yes, the cracker toe of all cano.
[SPEAKER_12]: I can't wait for a cano exploded, which is a largest explosion to date on the planet.
[SPEAKER_12]: There was a natural explosion.
[SPEAKER_12]: I'm going to go with.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_12]: It killed thirty six thousand people.
[SPEAKER_05]: at least, at least.
[SPEAKER_12]: And it was heard around the globe.
[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, it was just, it was, there's a piece, there's a piece, I found this.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I, you had this in there and I added it in that the sound of the explosion of crackato was so loud that scientists say that it circled the earth four times.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's not surprising.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: When people refer by the way, when they say, you know, the sound heard around the world.
[SPEAKER_05]: The shot heard around the world, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what they were referring to.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's where that actually came from, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_12]: All right.
[SPEAKER_12]: So Harvey Wildbanger's relatively simple drink to make.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_12]: You need a high ball glass, some ice cubes.
[SPEAKER_12]: One of the half ounces of vodka, four ounces of freshly squeezed orange juice, a half ounce of the aforementioned galliano.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_12]: And orange-sized for garnish.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_12]: So what you do is you combine the vodka, the orange juice, and you put that into a high bog glass, fill it with ice cubes, then stir it with the ice cubes in it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_12]: It won't lose it or anything.
[SPEAKER_12]: And then you slowly over the back of the spoon.
[SPEAKER_12]: We've done this before.
[SPEAKER_12]: You do it with layered drinks a lot.
[SPEAKER_12]: You slowly pour the half ounce of galliano over the back of a spoon to float it on top of the drink and then you garnish it with the orange slice.
[SPEAKER_12]: So it's pretty
[SPEAKER_05]: And the galling on it will just kind of dissolve it into it.
[SPEAKER_12]: Like if you've ever had a brain hemorrhage, it's a shot.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: And you put the, the, um, uh, Marassino sauce or whatever, whatever, the red liqueur it is.
[SPEAKER_12]: Um, uh, yeah, I think it's Marassino.
[SPEAKER_12]: I haven't had one in your life.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to remember what it was, um, uh, grenadine.
[SPEAKER_12]: Grenadine, it's grenadine.
[SPEAKER_12]: And so you pour that over slow and it slowly kind of makes it look like blood over the drink.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's kind of freaky looking.
[SPEAKER_12]: But it, you first layer it and then it kind of just does that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I used to have at the sip and stir, which is, did I mention this to you?
[SPEAKER_05]: Or was it, did I tell Jared this one?
[SPEAKER_05]: So, when I went to co-college in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, there was a bar that was right across the street from the college, across the street from the theater.
[SPEAKER_12]: That seems dangerous.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was tech theater major.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was great.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was literally that the tech theater was here.
[SPEAKER_05]: The main street was here.
[SPEAKER_05]: The bar was here.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the name of the bar was the sip and stir.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or as we would call it, the slip and slur.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: and at five dollars in nineteen ninety four would get you a red wolf which was five percent out call by volume and a brain hemorrhage and it's nice to pizza on some nights
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, I'm sitting there going, that's a hell of a deal.
[SPEAKER_05]: Five dollars gets me up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You'll get all of them, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: High volume.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why you call it a slip and slur.
[SPEAKER_05]: Any.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: That would definitely get you hammered.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, college drinks.
[SPEAKER_05]: But this is not a college drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: The Harvey Wallbanger.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a simple drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a fun drink.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you missed us talking about it as the drink of the day, or you missed any of the drink of the days, just subscribe at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, so back to the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_05]: Trump's war on the Fed against Fed Governor Lisa Cook.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have Greg Sardgen.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have gone back and forth.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've assisted him for years.
[SPEAKER_05]: I definitely lobbied Michael Tomoski to bring him on over the new Republican.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm so glad that Michael listened to me and a bunch of other people who were saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: higher him away when Sergeant left the Washington Post because Greg's been doing a great job.
[SPEAKER_05]: He has a great podcast over there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some point we can maybe see if we can give him the bar here and be fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he has a great piece up as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we link to it in the news on tap today because Sergeant hit the big thing about Trump's attack on Fed governor Lisa Cook.
[SPEAKER_05]: what's that funny word that Trump is always afraid of starts with a D. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_05]: And then there's going to be discovery.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're going to find out all kinds of things that Donnie didn't want to do.
[SPEAKER_05]: And unlike lawsuits that Donald is control of, he is not going to be in control of this one.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she is going to sue him because she is not leaving the Fed board because he doesn't have the right to fire her ass.
[SPEAKER_12]: No, he doesn't.
[SPEAKER_12]: And the whole mortgage fraud thing that he's going after, I believe, I think I said this yesterday, that Ken Paxton has three homes, and they're all listed as his primary residences.
[SPEAKER_05]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_12]: And that's just a thing that you check off, and you don't think about it.
[SPEAKER_12]: And I agree, you should be more diligent, but a lot of times people like Elitisha James are an Adam Schiffer, even a Ken Paxton, and at least cook.
[SPEAKER_12]: There's lawyers or other people doing that paperwork on their head.
[SPEAKER_05]: They may have a system.
[SPEAKER_05]: They may have exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's one of those things where if somebody else does it, if it's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not a, it's not a top level felony.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not even a felony most places.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a, you know, even a misdemeanor if they decide to proceed with it.
[SPEAKER_12]: And you can, and you can change it.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And most of the time, thanks for like whatever that's fine.
[SPEAKER_12]: So I'm just we're getting the mortgage.
[SPEAKER_12]: We don't care.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's, it's not anything big at all, but Trump is trying to make it big and by doing so, he's going to end himself up in more trouble.
[SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of more trouble, Trump decided to raise the tariff this morning from anything coming from India.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's not good for pharmaceuticals.
[SPEAKER_12]: for computer pieces or all kinds of stuff phones a lot of a lot of iPhones are made there but well I mean just for me in particular my the two drugs that I have to take for my blood pressure their generic and most generic drugs are made in India in India yep
[SPEAKER_05]: And that goes along with the other bad economic news.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Crowger announced that at nearly a thousand job cuts company, why?
[SPEAKER_05]: Most of them, they said at the corporate level, they're trying to, oh, it's just at the corporate level, but they're doing it in other places too.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is on top of something that I kind of kept in my back pocket hearing that there was going to be more job losses this week.
[SPEAKER_05]: John Deere had a six hundred million dollar loss and they did some mass layoffs last week.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think about three or four hundred people, so it's a lot for them.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a piece from Alex Shepherd also from the new republic talking about the coming Trump session.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know that it's going to be quite as bad as he fears, but it's a piece at least worth reading because it kind of takes you through a number of the bad things that Trump is doing on the economy that unless you sit there and know how to to wait your way through the Wall Street jargon on CNBC, nobody else is going to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's a piece worth reading that way.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of crazy.
[SPEAKER_12]: But I think it's coming.
[SPEAKER_12]: I think the tariffs are part of the reason.
[SPEAKER_12]: And I mean, people are getting laid off again.
[SPEAKER_12]: It has begun.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and all of this goes to the fact that Democrats are doing better in a lot of these elections in Iowa, in Georgia, lots of special elections.
[SPEAKER_05]: The big thing is
[SPEAKER_05]: They're doing better because people are not happy with what Trump is doing and they're not happy with what Republicans have done.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I believe it is it next week already.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's it's next week after the holiday, which by the way, we will be off.
[SPEAKER_05]: We will have a best of some of your favorite interviews.
[SPEAKER_05]: We will have that next Monday.
[SPEAKER_05]: But when the next day after that comes that Tuesday, Congress is back in session.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they will have, from that day, they will have, what is it?
[SPEAKER_05]: What do we say?
[SPEAKER_05]: Fifteen working days, I'm not even doing that.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: To get a CR basically.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: To get things set so that the government can continue and doesn't actually have to shut down before September, thirty of.
[SPEAKER_12]: And also aren't a bunch of the Epstein victims going to be having a press conference on the third.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh huh, that's been thank you Thomas Macy of all people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um all people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, him and Rokana is is is I have my issues with Rokana.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have my issues with a lot of politicians.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, some people are like, you say, you know, I have you have issues with everybody because there's no such thing as a perfect policy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, look, there are a few perfect people in the world.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, my wife comes close because I'm required to say that.
[SPEAKER_12]: Jody comes close because Lonnie required you to say that.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, Lonnie required me to say that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we say thank you, Lonnie.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he says the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: But obviously, Carol is perfect because, you know, that's just, you know, that's what we say.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's just, well, you know, she is.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're supposed to say it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But look, the fact is there is virtually no politician that is perfect.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so yeah, I have, I have my issue with Rokana, but I'm glad that he teamed up with Republican Thomas Massey.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Massey is in a district that is so red.
[SPEAKER_05]: My Husker red stuff would not be red enough for him.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's super red.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's why he can say FU did Arnold.
[SPEAKER_05]: right because he knows and he also at least his his constituents generally seem to believe according to my think I saw a smaller it's not a reasonable but his constituents said they like what he's doing for them whether or not they actually know what he's doing but whatever but so yeah so he's he's been able to stand up to Trump on this particular thing and on a couple other things because he knows you know what whatever and he also knows that Donnie is not well that Donnie is we all know that
[SPEAKER_05]: They're so much discussion about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they are trying so hard to push the discussion to anything else but that.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, I, and I'm just like, you know, the, the school of thought is they're trying to speed up everything in project twenty twenty five before he dies.
[SPEAKER_05]: because they know that J.V.
[SPEAKER_05]: Vance is not going to have the use.
[SPEAKER_12]: He doesn't have the mojo.
[SPEAKER_12]: He doesn't.
[SPEAKER_12]: He doubt has the support in the Congress like Donald.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, he doesn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: There, there, there was God was it's Washington Post.
[SPEAKER_05]: Somebody just did a six factions of the Republican Party piece.
[SPEAKER_05]: breaking it down.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you read between the lines, it was pretty clear at least to me that I can't remember whether it was, maybe it was Washington Post, maybe it was political, but what they were doing is they were highlighting saying when Trump dies, not if, but when old man Trump gets ill sick dies.
[SPEAKER_05]: that these factions are all going to be fighting each other in a public imparting, the public imparting is going to be so factionalized and fractionalized, they won't be able to pass a bill, how they won't be able to pass gas.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I mean, they will just not, and you know, in some ways, I'm kind of glad about that because anything that they pass seems to suck.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, so look, let's, you know, we're not the only one thinking that Donnie is ill.
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[SPEAKER_05]: There's there's plenty of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_05]: All right, we got more rounds because it's Wednesday night and because the news has been all over like a roller coaster.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully he has some trek politics news.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll have to ask him about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And of course, we will be talking more about Donnie.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Alrighty so the big news of the day we should probably re-hit this again because at last check it has not changed thankfully the shooting in Minnesota shooting Minneapolis at a church there shooter shot from outside the church killed two kids eight and ten
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... wounded seventeen people fourteen kids three adults uh... there were somewhere between two and six kids and the ICU and one adult in the ICU uh... looks like a thingfully the medical professionals were able to save most at least at last check that's what we heard so so hopefully that'll hold and they'll recover and yeah it's look it's it we we talked about it last hour it is it has been a roller coaster of news today there is any any day that has a mass shooting and there are lots of mass shootings
[SPEAKER_05]: You were saying there were a couple of mass shootings.
[SPEAKER_12]: There were shootings.
[SPEAKER_12]: I don't know if they were all mass shootings over the weekend in Minneapolis in particular.
[SPEAKER_12]: But you know, I think there were two people that were shot and killed on Saturday.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there's there's all kinds of if you if you if you included if you confine it restricted whatever you want to call little bit and say mass shootings, the number is slightly less.
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe NBC today said this is the fifth major non college school shooting of twenty twenty five.
[SPEAKER_12]: What does that's very specific?
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yes, that tells you how many shootings we have.
[SPEAKER_05]: We can characterize them as shootings for, you know, K through twelve and shootings that include colleges and shootings that are at businesses.
[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I remember he used to say you're going postal.
[SPEAKER_12]: We haven't had one of those in a while.
[SPEAKER_05]: No need.
[SPEAKER_05]: No need because you can get shot anywhere else.
[SPEAKER_12]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: it's look folks that the reasons why we went through this a little bit last hour and and i i wrote this uh... in the wake of sandy hook years ago in twenty twelve and used to have a piece uh... i will see if i get up call the five components of american gun violence all rewrite it uh... but uh... that the five components are very simple ineffective gun safety laws sub-optimal mental health care systems corrupt lobbying and political finance systems questionable media ethics and poverty inequality
[SPEAKER_05]: And these are the reasons why we have these.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not just there are too many guns or we need more mental health care or you know, the politicians don't do anything or the media loves if it bleeds it leads or well, if we just got rid of all the poor people, it's not any single one of those.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if you don't consider all five of those when you're talking about this issue, you're not really serious.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're absolutely not serious about solving the problem of gun violence.
[SPEAKER_05]: In order to be resolving the problem of gun violence, you have to actually want to tackle all five of those.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, I remember Chris Rock years ago said, why don't we just sell bullets at a thousand dollars a bullet?
[SPEAKER_12]: Because you'll be thinking more likely whether or not to use said bullet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thing is, other countries have come up with other solutions.
[SPEAKER_05]: The thing that the US used to be, the thing that we used to be the best about.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look, we have some Canadian listeners and there are lots of things that you folks are great about.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, I had to do that for a second, but there are a lot of things that Canada is fantastic about.
[SPEAKER_05]: But America is better even than Canada on this, mainly because I think that you have a little higher standard of ethics up there, just saying that to our Canadian listeners.
[SPEAKER_05]: America has been for the longest time we have been the world's thief of ideas.
[SPEAKER_05]: Somebody comes with a good idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: They say, oh, this is an interesting idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: Some are from the US goes, you know what?
[SPEAKER_05]: That'd be great.
[SPEAKER_05]: Except let's do this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Except let's do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Except let's add this thing and this thing and oh, we'll do this widget.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we make it some kind of a magical thing where everybody else goes, holy crap.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, perfect example between Canada and the United States, Blackberries.
[SPEAKER_05]: I believe that was it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Rim was a research in motion created Blackberry and they weren't Canada.
[SPEAKER_05]: I happen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, a lot of people did.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had one of the palm phones.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is before the palm free.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is when it was still more of a palm right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But they were kind of clunky and chunky.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then Apple, American company comes up and says, Hey, I'm gonna do this a lot better.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because that's what America does.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or at least that's what we used to do.
[SPEAKER_05]: Other countries around the world have a lot better, a lot smarter, a lot more effective, gun safety laws.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they have all kinds of things that we could borrow.
[SPEAKER_05]: But a lot of other countries also have better health care systems.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have better poverty systems, where the floor of poverty is not as bad as it is here in the United States.
[SPEAKER_05]: They still have poor people, but maybe they're not suffering as much as they are here.
[SPEAKER_12]: Very little homelessness in places.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and better media ethics, better actually rules of what the media can do, and less money in their political systems.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you're wondering why they have less gun violence than we do, because they tackle all five of those things.
[SPEAKER_05]: And yes, some countries still have some violence.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes they have knife violence.
[SPEAKER_05]: You see more of that sometimes in Europe where you see somebody came in and stabbed like ten people.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying that they're perfect places.
[SPEAKER_05]: They've obviously got issues.
[SPEAKER_05]: But they don't have the kind of thing where somebody can walk by a church on the outside of the church.
[SPEAKER_05]: A church that had barricaded their doors.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the idea that people like Ted Cruz had where they go, oh, well, you know, if they only would have made their doors stronger, they'll ask they barricaded the doors.
[SPEAKER_05]: The guy shot out from the outside through windows.
[SPEAKER_12]: So now they're going to have to have bulletproof windows on churches.
[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, what do we know?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_12]: How about junior?
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you, did you, did you ever like Bloom County?
[SPEAKER_05]: I never Bloom County, Bloom County was a fantastic cartoon.
[SPEAKER_05]: I actually, my dad, New Burke breathed really well.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Burke is still drawing these as opus and build a cat and Steve Dallas.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there was at one point, and I can't remember what it was, but one of the main characters, Milo Bloom was, they were trying to stop killing things.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they end up, I believe Milo ends up hanging from the tree in the meadow, naked, trying not to to kill or disturb anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then somebody says, oh my God, you have to stop breathing.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're killing millions of germs.
[SPEAKER_05]: If we're going to try to go about things where we don't take care of the guns, where we don't tackle things like making safer, making more effective gun safety laws.
[SPEAKER_05]: It doesn't matter how many doors we put up, or windows that we put up, or somebody is going to find a way.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they are.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is a clear example.
[SPEAKER_05]: Guy walked along the outside of a church.
[SPEAKER_05]: It could have been the outside of any building.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that being said, it is important to note that we need to tackle this problem.
[SPEAKER_05]: And in order to do that, we need to be tackling a lot of the other political problems that are out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: So including our elections, by the way, in case you missed it from our one, some good election news, some positive election news, I would Democrats are celebrating, Caitlin Dry wins the massive upset election, special election there.
[SPEAKER_05]: for a state Senate seat breaking the state Republican supermajority there, which we are.
[SPEAKER_05]: Big applause for her again, which is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Also, there was a Georgia state special Senate election.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, is seven way race is going to a September run off the loan Democrat placed first in a seven way race, forty percent of vote.
[SPEAKER_12]: So that's amazing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it proves the thing that we were talking about yesterday, the thing that Elizabeth Warren always talks about, you know, you don't get what you don't fight for.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you fight, if you stand up for what you believe in, you just might get some of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's, that's an important thing to remember because I realize that a lot of people are scared about all the fascism and the ridiculousness that's out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: and I understand it, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't be worried, and I'm not saying, I'm not saying, somebody accused me of being negative to the people who are sitting it out or tapping it out because of maybe met personal issues, mental health issues, whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying that you can't take a break.
[SPEAKER_12]: No, of course not.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, but some people feel that way, because they go, oh, you're making fun of us because you're saying people are e-oring.
[SPEAKER_05]: People in the Democratic side, people in the left,
[SPEAKER_05]: You have a few years on me, but we're both in our fifties.
[SPEAKER_05]: The entire time that you have been aware of and known politics, have people on the left been easier to depress easier to get sad, easier to focus on a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's me saying that somebody's e-oring has nothing to do with making fun of somebody.
[SPEAKER_05]: It has to do with pointing out an actual fact.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a fact that Republicans know that they made fun of us.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's why Joe Walsh said that they would laugh at the Democrats because they didn't fight back.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_12]: And Joe Walsh was right.
[SPEAKER_12]: And the fact is that because people like Governor Pritzker, Governor Newsom, Governor Moore, Governor Walsh are starting to stand up.
[SPEAKER_12]: Stand up.
[SPEAKER_12]: The Republicans don't know what to think.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Something that that folks on our side folks folks who are whether they are just generally left, whether they're Democrats and they're proud of it, whether they're centered left, whether they're independence, whether they're non-front Republicans, all of us.
[SPEAKER_05]: We all tend to have this thing where we do better when people point out the positive things, when people give us a little lift, when people make us feel a little bit better, make us feel a little bit more settled about stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's one of the reasons why we try to do that stuff for you here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_05]: We want you to get come out of the bar and be like, you know what, I feel pretty good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or some days you come out of the bar and go, I can take on the world, baby.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's exactly how you're supposed to feel when you hang out with your friends in your community.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're supposed to get that kind of energy.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's why the Republicans have things like Fox.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why they've made it a point over all the years to be so to flood the media zone and to flood the media zone with things that make Democrats question ourselves, that make everybody in that group that I said Democrats independence, non-Trump Republicans question themselves.
[SPEAKER_05]: because they want you fighting each other instead of fighting the monsters.
[SPEAKER_12]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it ain't about trying to depress anybody.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's about trying to just point out the fact that it's easier for us to get depressed.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we also have a lot more fun when we're happy.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: I tend to think we do.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you know, that's me.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Speaking of happy speaking of fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got Bob Sasker coming in.
[SPEAKER_05]: I am excited.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to talk to him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to listen to him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know you want to listen to him too.
[SPEAKER_05]: So
[SPEAKER_05]: What we're going to do is this, uh, Jody and I are going to clean up a little bit here.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to get your drink refreshed.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to go do whatever you got to do if you didn't do it here a little while ago and and look, you know where the facilities are.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then we're going to come back and Bob says this is going to be here.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to talk about all kinds of things with Bob says good because that's just how it works.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Wednesday night at the politics bar, and you all know what that means, don't you?
[SPEAKER_05]: The idea of a pop Bob, like, whoa.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what are only Bob Saskia back from his vacation?
[SPEAKER_05]: And we are so glad to see you, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: So thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to ask you, like, you know, if you did anything bigger, fantastic or whatever, because, you know, I know it's, you know, working media, like we do, you didn't do a whole lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you probably sat then vegged out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, you know what it's like when you go on a break where you're at least speaking for myself when I go on a break.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like a balloon that's rapidly deflating and I just go through all around the room and it's like, man, and a wrinkle to keep in the corner covered in saliva.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Kimberley Kimberley Kimberley's like Kimberley's like refrigerator and you like tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to get off the floor today.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have to get off the floor today.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to get off the floor today.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have to get off the floor today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to get off the floor today.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to get off the floor today.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to get off the floor today
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm with you on that look.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm absolutely on.
[SPEAKER_05]: By the way, I just I said I just said an absurdity because we believed you we got to find it's fine, you know, we we ever we ever believe on you know, look at you know, Jody was Jody was referring to a Richard potato I believe the other day, you know, which Donald Trump is saying that he's trying to be that would be a dictator to saying but
[SPEAKER_05]: And because I defined it that way, you know, by the way, did you see the three hour long cabinet meeting where they were all trying to pretend to be Lindsey Graham?
[SPEAKER_05]: And of course, by this, I mean, I'm talking about golfing because you know that Lindsey Graham is Trump's favorite ball washer.
[SPEAKER_05]: And of course, I'm not actually referring to golf when I'm talking about the cabinet members.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how do how do any of the cabinet members grab the door knob of the cabinet room after they're done given all the K Y jelly all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, I can't get a grip on the door.
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone up from this door for me who doesn't have a blue ball over their fingers.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've been there so stupid.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you hear Steve Whitkoff who is the actual secretary of state as most of you Marco Rubio who is just the, you know, want to be thirsting guy, but you heard, did you hear Whitkoff at this?
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's hear the guy talking about the noble prize.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, then I did hear him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been trying to unravel this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe either of you can help me figure this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure what that's all about because I can't possibly imagine that Donald is so after the head, his brain is such the consistency of applesauce.
[SPEAKER_02]: that he actually believes any of those compliments.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got, though, they're just doing this because I'm the president and I kind of force them to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or is it just a matter of he enjoys it because it's a sign of respect that they have to do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't do it because it's a sign of groveling.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, that's an enjoy.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's just the groveling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: even though it's completely insincere.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, nothing that anyone said throughout that entire epic longer than the Godfather cabinet meeting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was at all even even in the same galaxy as sincerity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's got to be able to pick up on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, I mean, when my mom pays me a compliment, I'm like, well, okay, that's mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mom is saying that has no validity.
[SPEAKER_02]: No wait whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's gonna say nice things about me.
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't mean anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, is your mom watching like listening to every podcast and going, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
[SPEAKER_05]: And if I'm going to do something stupid, I'm afraid that she's just going to whack me and just be like, you dumb ass.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, there's something called EMDR that therapists do to help you with trauma like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually, it's actually, I think of it as a good thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: because, you know, if you can hear the internal monologue or the internal conversation going on in my head, part of my brain, you know, the brain that is below the belt, think something, oh, that'd be a good idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the other part of your brain says, uh, the hand, you won't get slapped, you won't get slapped, you won't get slapped.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's delve into the connection between what's below the belt and your mom slapping you in the back of the head.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you also scrub you with a poem of stone when you were child.
[SPEAKER_02]: No connection there.
[SPEAKER_05]: But man, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's get a reveal on today's.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_05]: very true.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because you see men, they will sometimes say things.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're like, I didn't think of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It just just flew out of my mouth.
[SPEAKER_05]: My mouth must have a brain of its own.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's very number one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Brain number two is the brain that actually is in your head, which isn't always in control.
[SPEAKER_05]: Brain numbers three and four in your hands because again, say, man, I did something on my own.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know what I was doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And of course, you know, three of these brains are oftentimes controlled by the one that's below the belt.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, the one that goes here, you know, and three and four have a close relationship with the one that has a few instances.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so it's often a four on one kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the brain that's at the top is like that would not be a good idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to get slapped.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to hurt.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh crap.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm going to have to clean up this mess.
[SPEAKER_05]: God damn it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you go and then people go, so what is this all women have one brain as well?
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I said, so here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I said, if women are in a group a lot of times, when women are in a group, they'll go to the restroom in groups.
[SPEAKER_05]: They'll tell, like, all of them, like, twelve women, they'll all go to the restroom, but only six will come out.
[SPEAKER_05]: You go in with a hammer.
[SPEAKER_05]: You try to knock down the walls.
[SPEAKER_05]: You will not find the other women.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are not there because they've gone to the great big mother brain.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this is how I know this works because if you're a guy, you know, you're a guy, you're a guy, you do the guy things.
[SPEAKER_05]: and you look around and you're somewhere and you don't see anybody you know you look to your left you look to your right you look around you you're like oh there's nobody here and before you left your wife your mother your best friend who's a girl said you should not do x because you're going to trouble you to x
[SPEAKER_01]: You get out there as a guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, yeah, look the left.
[SPEAKER_01]: They look the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see anybody.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I'm going to do X. The minute you step back in, they give you that look and they go, what the hell did you think you were doing?
[SPEAKER_05]: And they know because it's mother Earth.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a universal mother.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's all women are one big brain and men are too stupid to figure it out.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we might have more brains, but we're still so much dover than women, which also explains Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why you really, you've totally tapped into my feminism and my justification for my feminism, which is that men have so seriously after millennia, after millennia, time to take a seat, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's try something else, something
[SPEAKER_02]: that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob says that is driven by much smarter people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Women let's let's let's elect some more women because women in general are better.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying there aren't some dumb women out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a manual.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Marjorie Taylor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Bubber, I can start and go on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Although, although Lauren Bobert is handy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not going anywhere near that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Neither am I not, not without a penicillin shot and being singles.
[SPEAKER_05]: But, but the whole thing is that it's seen.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I mean by five brains and mannered Dumber.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's, you know, anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's what I mean by, you know, the lower brain, you know, and men are dumber.
[SPEAKER_05]: And especially when you come to people like Donald Trump who out and out just say these stupidest ass thing, I'm sure you heard this one, Bob.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't love not that I don't have, I would, if they're right to do anything I want to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm the president of the United States.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I think our country's in danger and it is in danger in these cities, I can do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: no no no no no that's not actually true and we have we have two hundred fifty years of supreme court precedent and the rule of law and the constitution article two of course that completely undermines everything he just said but then again
[SPEAKER_05]: facts don't matter anymore do that hypocrisy doesn't matter irony doesn't matter but it but it does it does because we stand up for it because we fight for it because look you know we want it we want in Iowa we want in Georgia last nights and and Jody I love the fact that you notice this right away when Trump made that comment immediately an hour one what did you say about it it's so next onion
[SPEAKER_05]: It is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because it is it is when the president doesn't it's not against the law.
[SPEAKER_12]: He literally sent that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm like, it's just changing a couple of words around.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's exactly what Trump said.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going, how we already had this discussion.
[SPEAKER_02]: The people who believe that lost.
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference is that Nixon at least had a little bit of personal restraint.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was somewhat grounded for a nut bag.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was much more grounded.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's not even in fact, there's not even a comparison between the two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Donald has no personal restraint whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_02]: So going around and saying that I can do whatever I want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: because I'm the president look at me look at me that's a terrifying prospect because you don't know given what's been happening in the last however many how many days has it been twenty five days since the election all the things that have happened since then
[SPEAKER_02]: They still got so much more runway to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't even begin to... This is the sort of thing that I think about.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was saying during the break, when I'm not doing anything, I open up to quote Mark Marron.
[SPEAKER_02]: I open up the worry folder, pull something out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of those things is, oh yeah, can you now extrapolate everything that's happened so far into the next three and a half years?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's that gonna mean.
[SPEAKER_12]: The difference between now and Nixon was Nixon didn't have Fox News.
[SPEAKER_12]: He didn't have Newsmax.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_12]: And he had a Congress and a Senate that were reasonable people in his party.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, the whole reason, the whole reason that Roger Aels created Fox in the first place was because that was their argument about Nixon in the first place was that he said, well, crap.
[SPEAKER_05]: If we hadn't had the damn Washington Post and the damn New York Times, if we'd control the media, then Nixon probably would have gotten away.
[SPEAKER_12]: Aels was going to call it GOP TV at first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I haven't ruled out the possibility of a very gold water moment as as crazy as that sounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where obviously the histories that Barry Goldwater went up to the White House and said, OK, it's time to resign.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's going to be a disaster for us in the midterms.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still I think that the jury is still out on that because between now and the midterm election unless there is genuinely something that stops the election from happening it is going to be a political bloodbath for the Republicans.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, even if Jeremy Mandarin and all the other voter suppression and all the other thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So in that regard, at some point, the Republicans on the Hill are gonna have to go, is it gonna be me or is it gonna be Donald?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's got to happen here?
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether they cut mate with Donald Trump or embrace him, what do they do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because continuing to embrace and rubber stamp, Donald Trump and Amaga Movement, is going to be a gigantic, and is currently a gigantic political loser for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do they back off?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they go and maybe not literally go to the White House, but do they start to criticize Donald Trump?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they start to separate themselves politically from this guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think there's still a possibility of that happening as crazy as that might sound.
[SPEAKER_12]: I hope you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know any more.
[SPEAKER_05]: My thought process is, I think you're being very optimistic there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you are being more optimistic than I am because I honestly think that Donnie Mitt Kankels is going to die of probably heart disease or something like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's way more optimistic than me than he's actually not going to survive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you kidding?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was the Washington Post, maybe that did a breakdown of like the six factions.
[SPEAKER_05]: When J. V. V. Vance ends up taking over whenever because I know way Donnie's living to twenty twenty eight.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's not going to be doing that, but but when he dies and J. V. Vance takes over.
[SPEAKER_05]: Vance does not have the ability to control the party because.
[SPEAKER_05]: These cult members only respond to Donald, a lot of them hate vans.
[SPEAKER_05]: They hate him.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when he goes, there is no single force that will be able to control the Republicans and the Republicans will end up
[SPEAKER_05]: literally if not figuratively having a civil war with each other, all of these factions to try to kick each other's ass.
[SPEAKER_05]: They won't be able to pass bills.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell, they won't be able to pass gas.
[SPEAKER_05]: I said that earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: They won't be able to pass a damn thing, which I mean, considering the crap they pass is awful.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: They won't be able to do a damn thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It'll get to the midterms.
[SPEAKER_05]: So whatever Trump has set in motion with all of these tariffs of all of this stuff is going to keep sliding until it gets to the midterms.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Democrats are going to go, would you like to have a functional government?
[SPEAKER_05]: How there are democratic parties that Nebraska Democratic Party is supporting an independent for one of their races there?
[SPEAKER_05]: Because they're like, hey, we would rather have him than a Republican.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's happening in other races around the country as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Democrats and independence are going to clean up in the twenty twenty six races, congressional races, state races, local races, they're going to clean up big time.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're going to find my group of Republicans on the very small end.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to laugh my ass off about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's that's that's my personal thoughts.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you know, I don't know who's more optimistic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bob's or yours.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's no question about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, well, we can talk about more optimistic things in the last section as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: You want to hang around with us for last call?
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure, I will.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, because I want to ask you something.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to ask you about something very optimistic.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have to ask you about track politics because I want to know what the status is on that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: We will ask Bob Cesska about trick politics.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If I love Lonnie's voice, I think it's great, Jody.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he has a fantastic voice.
[SPEAKER_12]: He doesn't sound like that all the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, but that's a voice guy voice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we having for dinner?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he goes where have you spaghetti on his birthday.
[SPEAKER_12]: I did say happy birthday.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We know that you're welcome.
[SPEAKER_05]: You sometimes hang out with higher quality riffraff than us.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know some of the start to start track people have to ask you because you know we asked you last time and you said maybe maybe maybe do you know any more do you have any more news on track politics?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well I've got some news I don't know if I can talk about the news but yeah we're we're going to be doing more episodes of track politics for sure Mary Trump and I yeah it's it's something that's been long and coming as far as you know we finished up
[SPEAKER_02]: What we're kind of calling the first season of the show, which was really the first season interrupted by the writer strike, the actor strike, and so forth.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then because of the strikes, we just moved on to other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mary had another project she was working on.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the show kind of went into low power mode at that point.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we did one episode about a year ago where it was just the audio from our politics panel at Star Trek Las Vegas.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now we're going to start as soon as September rolls around, which is just around the corner.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to start recording new episodes on a regular basis and get back into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the first episode back is going to be just me and Mary talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Among other things, what's going to be happening with Star Trek now that there's been this paramount skydance merger?
[SPEAKER_02]: What that's going to mean for the politics of Star Trek?
[SPEAKER_02]: What it's going to mean for the values that we've all come to recognize as being unique to Star Trek and how those values are very, very woke and always have been.
[SPEAKER_02]: But given what Donald Trump has been doing, given the nature of this merger,
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll start trek continue to be as woke as we've all recognized it to be over the years.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to be something we'll discuss plus you know there's other things surrounding that that we're going to get into but you know you start series and all kinds of fun stuff yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the most recent episode of Star Trek Strange New Worlds was fascinating to discuss from the perspective of Starfleet and the United Federation of Planets.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some criticism that floats around online, of course, about how Starfleet is colonizers and how it's
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, a colonizing empirical, empirical force, and I disagree with that analysis, and I think this most recent episode of Strange New Worlds kind of debunked that idea that they're colonizers, which they're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Starfleet United Federation of Planets, they're more like the UN, or NATO, or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more of a collective and less of a conquering force, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, very much.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you put it that way, yeah, very definitely.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're intelligent, and I wouldn't say a hundred percent benign, but definitely far more benign.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the intelligent part is important, especially when you, you know, consider that the stupid brand of fascism that we have currently going on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Joining me and I were talking about this earlier, I get excited about trains.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll have to talk about this at some point.
[SPEAKER_05]: The new acelatrain is out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm really geeked up about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's, you know, it's not like I'm what I think of as a real, you know, super train, but it'll go like a hundred and sixty.
[SPEAKER_05]: It'd be kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Plus, you know, they do design.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, instead of talking about that today, the secretary of road rules was talking about how the Department of Transportation is taking over taking over Union Station.
[SPEAKER_02]: Socialism, more socialism from the anti-socialist people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, but also, here's the thing, Union Station owned by the government, and tracking owned by the government, Department of Transportation, government.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if I'm I'm taking the ball that's in my right hand and throwing it to my left hand, are I tough?
[SPEAKER_12]: No, but they do want to put armed National Guard down there.
[SPEAKER_12]: I think it's because JD Vance got heckled.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I think, but they already had, they already had our national guard down there when they, when they, when they first put it in because that's one of the, it's one of the places where a lot of cameras are.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they could go, look, camera, see, aren't much.
[SPEAKER_05]: We are tough.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to see them put national guards people in Southeast.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I want to see in Southeast DC.
[SPEAKER_05]: They ain't going to do it, but I'd love to see them do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Although, I would love to see them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would love to see them treating the National Guard with respect and pulling them when they are needed as far as, you know, enemies of the state, not the people themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: The National Guard is fighting fires.
[SPEAKER_02]: We deployed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: removing, removing brush so that fires don't start in places like California.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, I'd like to see them, you know, doing those kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have been shared this week, though, by, I've been shared by obviously about Newsom, and he has just waited to kick their ass with communications.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's been hilarious over the last couple of weeks, and they still don't seem to get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're like, but Donald can do it, but, but, but Newsom can't.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, he can.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pre-country, suck it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's the tone deafness of the maga people is just astonishing that they don't recognize what this is all about, which is holding up a mirror to Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: If Gavin Newsom is being immature, well, what's the source of Gavin Newsom's parodies?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's their guy who just has no sense of decency or decorum or being presidential or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess they're version of those things, but it's just not.
[SPEAKER_02]: The standards that we've always had for our presidents have been completely thrown out the window.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even our worst presidents, as we were talking about Nixon,
[SPEAKER_02]: at least had some sense, some grappling to decency and the sort of the aesthetics of the office, the behavior of his being presidential, making sure you're not constantly being so overtly political every step of the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what Donald does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything that he does, he's using the presidency and exploiting the presidency.
[SPEAKER_02]: as just another vehicle for politics, another vehicle for attacking his enemies.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his enemies, of course, half of the American people.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, I mean, it reminds me of how people reacted to Stephen Colbert on the Colbert report.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: They thought he was really this conservative.
[SPEAKER_12]: They didn't realize that he was, it was all satire.
[SPEAKER_12]: And when he first started the late show, it was a difficult first couple of weeks because he didn't,
[SPEAKER_12]: because everybody kind of knew that character and it was interesting to watch this first couple of weeks of him being himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: People are so slow on the uptake.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's, it's been also heartening to see people like Westmore, like Governor Pritzker.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like Governor Pritzker, like Brandon Johnson, like, you know, Mayor of Chicago.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the latest addition to the group of people standing up and, you know, punching Donald in the face was Larry Crasner, DA of Philly.
[SPEAKER_05]: who I don't know if you heard this one, Bob, but he's he's making it very clear because this has been discussed, especially among our legal friends.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, they, you know, with Trump, I'm going to send, I'm going to send the National Guard in and I'm going to send in, you know, people from the FBI and I, and I'm, we're going to send them in the cities like Chicago and Philly and do whatever the hell we want.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Crasnar is like, yeah, no, it's what you have.
[SPEAKER_00]: is a group of ICE agents or you even have the military coming in to Philadelphia and they're committing crimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're committing assaults that are illegal homicides that are illegal, that kidnapping people.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're engaging in unlawful restraint, which is a crime in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're obstructing the administration of justice.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have people coming in and military ICE whoever it is acting beyond their legal authority, they can be prosecuted assuming they commit crimes in state court.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they cannot be pardoned by the president, which means they get to tell a Philadelphia jury, exactly why it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they thought they could invade this city, and they get to bear the consequences, whether they are handcuffs, a jury trial, or a jail sentence.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pingo.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So all these all these people who, you know, that that are, you know, I'm worried about I'm not saying you shouldn't be concerned.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not saying that any of us shouldn't be concerned about fascism, but it's not as easy as Donald Trump saying, oh, military go because the military is made up of and, and especially if you're going to be sending National Guard, the National Guard people forget sometimes.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's, you know, a couple of weekends a weekend here two weeks out of the year, whatever going to do training.
[SPEAKER_05]: These people have businesses.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have families.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have jobs.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have lives.
[SPEAKER_05]: They have whole other things going on.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to send you, you're going to be Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to send you in to Philly.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I want you to gather up all the brown people you can and be as mean as you can.
[SPEAKER_05]: And those national guards members are going to go, let's see if I do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I get actually caught by the good local Philly police or good local Philly people.
[SPEAKER_05]: My ask, get thrown in jail for six months or longer.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I lose all the things I have.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, FU.
[SPEAKER_05]: FU.
[SPEAKER_02]: So really discouraging thing about this is the fact that I think the most recent AP poll has Donald remarkably above water on crime.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yes, but people don't like the idea of federalizing the police forces.
[SPEAKER_12]: That's really low.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what are they?
[SPEAKER_02]: What are they approving of that?
[SPEAKER_12]: I just just crime.
[SPEAKER_05]: They like the idea of people being tough on crime because who really wouldn't want to be tough on crime but thankfully a lot of Democrats are not taking that bait and they're saying
[SPEAKER_05]: Look, you know, in order to do the things of what Donald wants you to do, he wants to, you know, beat up the guy who throws a sandwich at you.
[SPEAKER_05]: He wants to take one down the street who you've even known for twenty years and curb, stop him and throw him in, you know, throw him down to alligator, alcoholichess, at least as long as it's open.
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, or, you know, the cornholster clanker, wherever.
[SPEAKER_05]: And, and
[SPEAKER_05]: People are like, no, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then when you add on all the costs from the extra tariffs and you add on the loss of Medicare and Medicaid and the ACA and people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you get even a lot of the MAGA folks who are going, that is not what I voted for.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, and Donald is a felon and he pardoned,
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, I saw this this morning.
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess it aired last night.
[SPEAKER_05]: Probably we're here at the bar.
[SPEAKER_05]: Chris Hayes on his show did his whole A block adding up all of the numbers of people that Donald has all these these criminals criminals and child molesters rapists and thugs and and anarchists and that that Donald has freed in his first whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: You said almost three hundred days or whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: and and it's like it's like somewhere between seventeen hundred and two thousand of some of the nastiest or most horrible crimes you can't say that you're fighting crime and then in the first three hundred days three like two thousand of the worst criminals in the country yeah
[SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry that that just he wants to the death penalty to happen to people that.
[SPEAKER_12]: Murder god.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, definitely is ruled out in DC by the way.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, but he wants it back for people, especially if they murder police officer to go to Congress to do that.
[SPEAKER_12]: Hi, dude.
[SPEAKER_12]: By the way, I remember a bunch of people beating up on police officers in your name.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got we would we would love to obviously obviously next week.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, how you back?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely, I'll be here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, excellent.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bob Cesska will be back.
[SPEAKER_05]: Of course, you can always listen to him on the Bob Cesska show.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bob Cesska.com on all your favorite podcast players, type in Bob Cesska and also go to his Patreon and give him money because Bob likes to eat and that's something.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's important for us as far as that goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you tomorrow night here at the politics bar.