WEBVTT 00:16.452 --> 00:21.995 [SPEAKER_00]: Will, hello, white socks fans, and welcome to another edition of the Future Sox podcast. 00:22.475 --> 00:23.656 [SPEAKER_00]: My name is Ian Eskerge. 00:24.116 --> 00:29.359 [SPEAKER_00]: Joining me as always is the most negative man on Twitter, Mr. James Fox. 00:29.379 --> 00:30.079 [SPEAKER_00]: How are you, James? 00:30.560 --> 00:30.840 [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome. 00:30.860 --> 00:31.380 [SPEAKER_02]: How's it going? 00:32.020 --> 00:32.781 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing well. 00:34.422 --> 00:38.204 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll get to the whole Twitter thing. 00:38.224 --> 00:42.506 [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually it's actually funny because I'm actually kind of positive about the org right now. 00:43.578 --> 00:44.038 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know. 00:44.959 --> 00:55.889 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like everybody at Future Sox is generally pretty positive when it comes to the development of our prospect. 00:55.909 --> 00:56.830 [SPEAKER_02]: We're prospect hangers. 00:56.890 --> 00:57.631 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I know. 00:57.971 --> 01:05.298 [SPEAKER_00]: We are and, you know, like I'd like to think that most of us will give most of these guys. 01:06.717 --> 01:18.954 [SPEAKER_00]: a lot of leash as it comes to development and to be put on the others, you know, to be portrayed on the other side of that spectrum is just it feels foreign to me. 01:19.876 --> 01:24.762 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, we'll get into a context matters quite a bit in this case. 01:24.962 --> 01:25.824 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think so. 01:27.005 --> 01:36.597 [SPEAKER_00]: So Colson Montgomery, we got some comments here in the chat and it's a fun thing, you know, with the Samuel Basillo 01:37.908 --> 01:40.169 [SPEAKER_00]: extension extension that just came through this week. 01:40.669 --> 01:50.231 [SPEAKER_00]: It seems like a kind of a fun topic to bring up here and baseball brings up is it too soon, but what's a colson extension look like. 01:51.772 --> 01:55.793 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I don't know that it's too soon. 01:56.513 --> 02:00.294 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's like the type of player though, I feel like that would possibly take one. 02:01.723 --> 02:03.223 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not a Boris client. 02:04.124 --> 02:07.545 [SPEAKER_02]: He was, you know, a year older than normal high schoolers, right? 02:07.585 --> 02:08.725 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's twenty three. 02:09.525 --> 02:11.046 [SPEAKER_02]: They have the extra year control. 02:11.086 --> 02:13.066 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to be thirty when he's a free agent. 02:15.087 --> 02:17.548 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I could see him doing something that's like. 02:18.568 --> 02:23.492 [SPEAKER_02]: allows them to have eight years instead of seven potentially and it's, I don't know, I don't know what the money would look like. 02:23.792 --> 02:26.334 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it wouldn't be even Bessayo. 02:26.394 --> 02:35.161 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would, you know, six and six years that guarantees him fifty million and then they get a break on the back end or something. 02:35.201 --> 02:38.723 [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't, I don't think I don't feel like gets this going to go down that road. 02:38.743 --> 02:40.605 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll just like kind of take it year by year. 02:40.665 --> 02:42.987 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not a case where it's like 02:44.102 --> 02:46.164 [SPEAKER_02]: Louie's Robert by scarpaurus, right? 02:46.264 --> 02:48.706 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like, you know, of course, my gummer is good. 02:48.726 --> 02:52.028 [SPEAKER_02]: You could be here a long time. 02:52.729 --> 03:00.595 [SPEAKER_02]: I just, you know, it doesn't seem like something that's, and it was, he signed for three million bucks, I think, something like something in that range. 03:02.457 --> 03:04.478 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think he's a candidate for it. 03:04.538 --> 03:07.581 [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know if that's going to be part of the playbook this time yet. 03:08.638 --> 03:11.899 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Vince brings up, but so I got eight sixty seven. 03:11.939 --> 03:19.160 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say that there's like fifty million guaranteed or something and then like some escalators or something like that. 03:19.220 --> 03:19.640 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that right? 03:20.040 --> 03:24.901 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he's another guy that's like a good candidate because if somebody could look this up for me, I don't have it. 03:25.582 --> 03:28.682 [SPEAKER_02]: He he wasn't a huge dollar international signing. 03:29.162 --> 03:31.823 [SPEAKER_02]: Those are the types of guys that usually take money because 03:32.543 --> 03:40.845 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you get a million dollars in the international market like you're giving some of that to your boost cone a you're giving some to agents like you just You don't see much of it. 03:40.905 --> 03:48.806 [SPEAKER_02]: So you make the majors man like it's really tough to turn down sixty million dollars Yeah, I am looking that up right. 03:48.826 --> 03:55.847 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it was I'm sure it was a million plus but he wasn't like some five million dollar one point three. 03:55.947 --> 03:56.888 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that's fine. 03:58.268 --> 03:59.528 [SPEAKER_02]: I bet he didn't get a million of it 04:01.313 --> 04:05.934 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, he, you know, definitely gave some to the bisconé and then ended up paying like what? 04:05.974 --> 04:06.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Who knows what you're paying. 04:06.994 --> 04:16.197 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what you're paying the trainers, like all that stuff like that's why like a lot of times it is like young international guys that that take the money. 04:17.477 --> 04:19.538 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would, I mean, that would make sense. 04:19.958 --> 04:28.300 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, Colson gets something like that, but I wouldn't think that they would do it this early, just a guess. 04:30.741 --> 04:32.423 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I'm a fan of it. 04:32.503 --> 04:38.208 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Han's strategy was wrong last time. 04:39.049 --> 04:40.671 [SPEAKER_02]: It obviously didn't work, right? 04:40.771 --> 04:48.197 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think they got a discount on Tim Anderson because of it, like for a while, and then obviously you cut bait, like towards the end of that. 04:48.257 --> 04:53.562 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Eloi one looks bad and even like the Monkada one would have been fine if he wasn't hurt. 04:55.093 --> 05:08.099 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, you know, I think part of Recon's, and this will be the last we talk about the old front office, but like part of Recon's calculus is knowing that if you gamble, right, and you just don't do that, and these guys are awesome, your owners never signing them. 05:08.319 --> 05:15.142 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, you took the gamble that they were going to be good, and you're, you know, you're going to get them at a discount. 05:15.362 --> 05:16.682 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the only way you're going to keep them. 05:16.702 --> 05:18.363 [SPEAKER_02]: So like I understood it, it didn't work though. 05:19.302 --> 05:23.504 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, David asks is Colson giving into three true outcomes approach. 05:24.124 --> 05:28.946 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that that's necessarily a priority for him. 05:28.986 --> 05:35.908 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think that he just happens to be murdering baseballs because he's got elite bat speed and they are going very far. 05:35.948 --> 05:41.030 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it has anything to do with him specifically hunting that. 05:41.070 --> 05:44.992 [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I could be wrong, but yeah, you know, I mean, 05:46.042 --> 05:48.923 [SPEAKER_02]: He walked in the minors, like until he got to the high minors. 05:49.104 --> 05:52.685 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, he was striking out at like a thirty four percent clip in Charlotte. 05:53.546 --> 05:59.109 [SPEAKER_02]: He's striking out twenty eight percent of the time in the majors with a seven percent walk rate. 05:59.929 --> 06:04.211 [SPEAKER_02]: Can you get the walk rate over ten percent and like the K rate down around like twenty five? 06:04.772 --> 06:05.252 [SPEAKER_02]: I think so. 06:05.452 --> 06:07.033 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that'll be fine. 06:07.433 --> 06:09.694 [SPEAKER_02]: His babbip, you notice, babbip is in the big leagues. 06:10.174 --> 06:10.655 [SPEAKER_02]: Take a guess. 06:11.375 --> 06:12.476 [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually very promising. 06:14.236 --> 06:14.657 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably. 06:16.279 --> 06:18.181 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you're seeing it's promising. 06:18.401 --> 06:19.662 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll go ahead and say two hundred. 06:19.782 --> 06:20.482 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's two forty. 06:21.763 --> 06:22.724 [SPEAKER_02]: Which I think is good, right? 06:22.744 --> 06:24.986 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I think if we were like, oh, it's three forty. 06:25.667 --> 06:26.868 [SPEAKER_02]: That would that would be not great. 06:26.888 --> 06:29.730 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, batting average of balls and played doesn't really count homers, right? 06:29.810 --> 06:30.551 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah. 06:30.771 --> 06:36.275 [SPEAKER_02]: So so like all he's doing is hitting dogs like basically. 06:36.295 --> 06:36.375 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 06:37.096 --> 06:40.418 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I did see, you know, that there there there has been a 06:41.710 --> 06:47.913 [SPEAKER_00]: kind of, you know, with a, with more power, there has been a little bit more of the rolling over to the right side thing. 06:48.293 --> 06:48.513 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 06:48.853 --> 06:51.114 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, but that's, that's going to happen. 06:51.894 --> 06:52.935 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's. 06:53.895 --> 06:59.517 [SPEAKER_02]: Forty four strikeouts and eleven walks in a hundred and sixty one plate appearances. 07:00.238 --> 07:00.338 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, 07:01.946 --> 07:02.947 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I can live with it. 07:02.967 --> 07:07.249 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look at two eighty eight, oh, we piece not gonna not gonna work, right? 07:07.329 --> 07:09.070 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, he's slugging five forty. 07:10.431 --> 07:19.497 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, like we've kind of talked about this and I think it's one of the reasons why I would like to see if he can play shortstop for as long as possible. 07:20.277 --> 07:23.039 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's like just this is one of the things I've talked about, right? 07:23.079 --> 07:29.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if he's a two forty hitter who hits thirty bombs and his defense is good at short, he's a four win player. 07:29.903 --> 07:35.346 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're automatically saying he's first or third, well, then the bats going to have to carry him a little bit more. 07:35.546 --> 07:37.628 [SPEAKER_02]: But he's he's definitely exciting, right? 07:37.648 --> 07:44.331 [SPEAKER_02]: Because we look at this core guys and like I like to you, I like Karo, like good players, right? 07:44.451 --> 07:48.374 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Colson's the one who like looks like a potential superstar if it hits. 07:48.654 --> 07:53.156 [SPEAKER_02]: Like those other guys are, you know, above average catchers and a league where catchers suck. 07:55.072 --> 07:56.413 [SPEAKER_02]: And my draft kind of is what he is. 07:57.094 --> 08:01.777 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Colson's the one man where it's like pretty left handed swing, like people weren't expecting this at all. 08:01.818 --> 08:04.800 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think he's the one that like has people the most excited. 08:05.348 --> 08:08.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, uh, trade with the super chat. 08:08.590 --> 08:09.991 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much, Tray. 08:10.051 --> 08:10.751 [SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate it. 08:10.791 --> 08:12.332 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for listening as always. 08:12.572 --> 08:12.892 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 08:12.952 --> 08:13.653 [SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate you, man. 08:13.773 --> 08:17.955 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just leaving before we start talking about Hagen. 08:18.496 --> 08:18.936 [SPEAKER_00]: Trust me. 08:19.356 --> 08:20.137 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't doing. 08:20.517 --> 08:21.197 [SPEAKER_00]: I know he was. 08:21.217 --> 08:22.318 [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate. 08:22.338 --> 08:23.979 [SPEAKER_02]: He can't do. 08:24.039 --> 08:25.620 [SPEAKER_02]: He can't do Hagen's with talk live. 08:26.715 --> 08:27.576 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 08:27.796 --> 08:28.637 [SPEAKER_00]: So here's a question. 08:29.077 --> 08:34.041 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, with having to, you know, say you move Colson to third base. 08:35.683 --> 08:44.951 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's here's my thinking on this whole thing is that you'd have to have somebody that you actually would put at third base over him to avoid doing that anyway. 08:44.991 --> 08:46.132 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that short stop you mean? 08:46.552 --> 08:48.934 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's well, it both really. 08:49.174 --> 08:50.095 [SPEAKER_02]: So here's my problem. 08:51.436 --> 08:53.378 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to stick Vargas at first yet. 08:55.177 --> 08:58.019 [SPEAKER_02]: So like I'd be more likely to play Colson at short. 08:58.839 --> 09:00.220 [SPEAKER_02]: So Vargas can play third. 09:00.660 --> 09:02.421 [SPEAKER_02]: So I can go sign a first basement. 09:03.262 --> 09:07.084 [SPEAKER_02]: Because if you say it's short or say you put them at third, you put Colson at third. 09:07.344 --> 09:08.244 [SPEAKER_02]: Vargas is at first. 09:08.845 --> 09:10.966 [SPEAKER_02]: So now your corners are like done. 09:11.186 --> 09:12.807 [SPEAKER_02]: Then you're what you're playing my draw that short. 09:13.827 --> 09:18.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Or you go because I think like the limited amount of money that they're going to spend. 09:19.030 --> 09:20.211 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think they'll spend a little bit. 09:20.231 --> 09:21.832 [SPEAKER_02]: But like that should be first based the age. 09:22.952 --> 09:23.473 [SPEAKER_02]: And outfield. 09:24.462 --> 09:25.943 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's not going to be shortstop. 09:27.304 --> 09:29.605 [SPEAKER_02]: And I wouldn't play my job at shortstop over Montgomery. 09:29.946 --> 09:32.807 [SPEAKER_02]: So it seems pretty easy to me for right now, but I don't know. 09:32.887 --> 09:34.008 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know what their plan is. 09:35.489 --> 09:36.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:36.670 --> 09:36.890 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:37.290 --> 09:38.571 [SPEAKER_00]: That's, I mean, it's tough. 09:39.392 --> 09:44.335 [SPEAKER_00]: I personally, I think that the defense plays at shortstop and. 09:44.715 --> 09:45.075 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:45.155 --> 09:45.556 [SPEAKER_00]: That's right. 09:45.716 --> 09:46.676 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's average. 09:46.796 --> 09:47.037 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 09:47.297 --> 09:48.558 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, until somebody else. 09:49.621 --> 09:53.403 [SPEAKER_00]: is pushing him out of the way to play that position. 09:54.384 --> 09:55.584 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you just leave him there. 09:55.604 --> 09:57.205 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just my thought. 09:57.465 --> 09:58.306 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 09:58.706 --> 10:00.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Ron Davis, thanks for a super chat. 10:00.247 --> 10:00.947 [SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate you. 10:01.147 --> 10:01.828 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 10:02.228 --> 10:03.929 [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin asked a question about Robert. 10:04.029 --> 10:05.470 [SPEAKER_02]: We can do it now or just. 10:07.511 --> 10:09.753 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so let's just go ahead and get to that. 10:12.275 --> 10:15.057 [SPEAKER_00]: I was inside the clubhouse. 10:15.237 --> 10:15.858 [SPEAKER_02]: It is yes. 10:16.318 --> 10:18.800 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's not hit runs the Spiegel one on Sunday. 10:18.900 --> 10:19.300 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 10:19.400 --> 10:19.921 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 10:20.341 --> 10:27.607 [SPEAKER_00]: So in that Bruce Levine says that the late sox should not pick up Louise Roberts options. 10:28.087 --> 10:33.949 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like so he goes through this big long tangent with David Hall about like the guys who were playing well, right? 10:33.969 --> 10:35.870 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was like this positive white sex segment. 10:35.890 --> 10:42.512 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't feel it's good and Carol and all these guys and you know, are they going to spend and he's like, maybe, but here's what I would do. 10:43.572 --> 10:49.334 [SPEAKER_02]: He basically says like I would decline the twenty million dollar option on Robert because he's not worth it and signed two or three guys instead. 10:50.495 --> 10:51.015 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like 10:52.940 --> 10:55.545 [SPEAKER_00]: If we've not been down this road, twenty times. 10:56.066 --> 10:57.187 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the Kenny Williams thing. 10:57.668 --> 11:00.573 [SPEAKER_02]: You signed three bad players instead of one good one, right? 11:00.794 --> 11:03.558 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I don't think it's even that at this point. 11:03.759 --> 11:05.061 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we've had this conversation. 11:06.245 --> 11:08.567 [SPEAKER_02]: Like to me, like the decision was already made. 11:08.707 --> 11:10.769 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're you're you're picking up the option. 11:11.330 --> 11:12.551 [SPEAKER_02]: It was yeah, you're an angel. 11:12.571 --> 11:16.294 [SPEAKER_02]: You had to decide if there was any possibility that you weren't going to pick it up. 11:16.314 --> 11:17.855 [SPEAKER_02]: You needed to trade them for whatever you could get. 11:17.935 --> 11:18.656 [SPEAKER_02]: They didn't do that. 11:18.736 --> 11:20.057 [SPEAKER_02]: Now they have to pick it up, right? 11:20.858 --> 11:22.960 [SPEAKER_02]: So then I get all these people on Twitter that are they go. 11:22.980 --> 11:24.921 [SPEAKER_02]: What if he hits two hundred that gets a sunk. 11:25.282 --> 11:32.188 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're picking it up and you're trying to try because at a minimum, you could trade him this winner for what you got offered at the deadline. 11:33.833 --> 11:35.735 [SPEAKER_02]: You get to climb the option and get nothing. 11:35.895 --> 11:37.056 [SPEAKER_02]: That makes no sense. 11:37.436 --> 11:39.337 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I just, this is like not a thing. 11:40.078 --> 11:41.379 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the payroll number is. 11:42.140 --> 11:45.782 [SPEAKER_02]: It's thirty seven million pre-arb with Robert and Ben and Tandy, right? 11:46.183 --> 11:51.687 [SPEAKER_02]: So if it's eighty, or I'd say they can spend eighty million bucks, then you can go spend thirty million dollars. 11:52.488 --> 11:53.769 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't go get 11:55.108 --> 12:01.075 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and in our filter and a setup guy, I mean, I think you probably can like so what are we doing? 12:01.115 --> 12:02.476 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not stopping you from doing anything. 12:03.097 --> 12:10.805 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at this point, I mean, are you are you spending on additional bullpen arms at this time? 12:10.846 --> 12:14.129 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, is this is that something that you want to sink money into at this point? 12:15.250 --> 12:15.751 [SPEAKER_00]: We have coming up. 12:18.128 --> 12:22.992 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I don't really, but I mean, what are they going to spend? 12:23.052 --> 12:35.060 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you have to spend it like left handed hitting first base slash D. H, like one of those guys you should go get, right, whether that's, you know, who there's a few in free agency. 12:36.461 --> 12:40.204 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I really think they need to right-handed hitting out filler, but I think they need like a good one. 12:40.796 --> 12:42.637 [SPEAKER_02]: But we were talking about it in the group chat, right? 12:42.657 --> 12:44.719 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, could you package some of these guys? 12:44.739 --> 12:46.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what happens with Laney and Sosa, right? 12:46.520 --> 12:56.726 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, can you go get a right-hand and I'll filter for Laney and Sosa and one of your pictures, like a Sean Perk plus a young reliever, you know what I mean? 12:56.746 --> 12:59.128 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, whatever, and you go get an I'll filter. 12:59.696 --> 13:03.278 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I think right handed hitting I'll filter and left handed hitting first basement. 13:03.338 --> 13:05.160 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that makes a lot of sense to me. 13:05.180 --> 13:06.661 [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to spend on a starter. 13:07.761 --> 13:08.622 [SPEAKER_02]: That makes some sense. 13:09.242 --> 13:11.824 [SPEAKER_02]: I think like what would be really cool. 13:11.884 --> 13:19.249 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think I haven't like looked at this as if you could trade the two years of Ben and Tandy for a for a expensive picture that's underwhelming. 13:20.624 --> 13:28.049 [SPEAKER_02]: That's perfect for me because I have no issue bringing back Mike talkman to like be your primary left fielder. 13:29.090 --> 13:32.011 [SPEAKER_02]: But I have issues bringing him back if you're also bringing back Ben and Teddy. 13:33.192 --> 13:35.414 [SPEAKER_02]: I just and yeah, you can get rid of one of them. 13:35.514 --> 13:41.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Like talkman's been pretty good, but he's thirty five and he's like not great in the outfield anymore and like he's a great clubhouse guy. 13:41.157 --> 13:48.042 [SPEAKER_02]: I just like if you're stuck with Ben and Teddy, I'd probably trade talkman and go a different direction. 13:49.737 --> 14:03.464 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, if you can't get rid of that salary, which I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't, it didn't look bad until the second half to the season where he's, you know, just wasn't putting up numbers as much anymore, but. 14:05.125 --> 14:16.812 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just, and it really like kind of hampers you a little bit right because say it is, you know, it's a little bit right because say it is, you know, it say it's a horn and you want a DHM some. 14:17.955 --> 14:19.856 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, they don't want to play Ben and Tendi in the outfield. 14:19.956 --> 14:21.816 [SPEAKER_02]: And I totally understand why. 14:21.976 --> 14:24.977 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's like, it also cuts into like, Lenin's OSA time, right? 14:25.037 --> 14:34.339 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if like, if you want Lenin's OSA to be part of this thing, but you want my draw or meet or somebody else playing a lot of second base, and he has to de-age. 14:34.619 --> 14:36.420 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, then you have to play Ben and Tendi in left field. 14:36.540 --> 14:39.400 [SPEAKER_02]: I just, you know, I mean, to me, it's not my money. 14:39.440 --> 14:41.501 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you could de-a-fab Ben and Tendi for all I care. 14:41.541 --> 14:44.342 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just not something that this organization traditionally does. 14:45.022 --> 14:45.202 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 14:46.258 --> 15:07.189 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so I've seen some conversations about putting so sit first base and if that if that's going to be part of the plan, they're going to need to get him set up with somebody that can that really could pick it and teach him how to play first base because that's yeah, he needs to help. 15:07.649 --> 15:10.030 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure. 15:10.130 --> 15:11.431 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not an easy position. 15:11.471 --> 15:15.353 [SPEAKER_00]: The footwork's completely different than everywhere else that he's ever played and 15:16.768 --> 15:36.416 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's there's also the thoughts on whether or not, you know, like he's making the correct decisions and knows where the ball's supposed to be going, where he's supposed to be when he's supposed to be there, which has been an issue at every position that he's played to be to be fair. 15:37.416 --> 15:44.003 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he hasn't been at second base, you know, when he's playing second base, he hasn't been at second base for, you know, throws over there. 15:44.043 --> 15:51.030 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's just been a bunch of mental errors when it comes to positioning and where he's supposed to be and where he's supposed to go at the ball. 15:51.290 --> 15:57.016 [SPEAKER_00]: So I guess the the lesser of those places. 15:58.364 --> 16:07.826 [SPEAKER_00]: would be first base because he doesn't have to make a decision whether he's got to be at second base or in the whole like he's only got first base to worry about, you know, he doesn't have to. 16:07.846 --> 16:13.047 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he has to worry about cut off from right field, but I mean, whatever. 16:14.107 --> 16:15.007 [SPEAKER_02]: Sort of that out. 16:15.067 --> 16:21.509 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you like better Josh Nailer or oh, I just know that Ryan or her and has connections to fuller. 16:21.749 --> 16:27.730 [SPEAKER_02]: So that one that one's like obvious to me because it won't be expect like it won't be that expensive. 16:28.681 --> 16:34.443 [SPEAKER_00]: I also have never seen an article about Ryan O'Hurne stabbing a teammate. 16:35.484 --> 16:35.704 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 16:36.584 --> 16:36.804 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 16:37.084 --> 16:38.305 [SPEAKER_00]: So there is that as well. 16:39.265 --> 16:41.806 [SPEAKER_00]: Uncle Ted really likes, uh, really likes Naylor though. 16:42.347 --> 16:43.147 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is surprise. 16:43.167 --> 16:44.267 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to surprise by that. 16:44.307 --> 16:46.288 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he hits lefty, but he doesn't hit that many homers. 16:48.249 --> 16:49.469 [SPEAKER_02]: Uncle Ted kind of like bombs. 16:52.311 --> 16:53.671 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he hits him against a white socks. 16:53.931 --> 16:55.812 [SPEAKER_00]: That is, that is one thing I can definitely say. 16:55.832 --> 16:58.133 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's like the only, the only team he does it against. 16:59.944 --> 17:16.448 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you guys hope so apparently apparently this isn't well known Yes, when Josh Naylor was in the minors, he stabbed a teammate with a knife and apparently it was a joke, but yeah, he stabbed a teammate 17:19.168 --> 17:23.249 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I mean, you get like that's crazy. 17:23.469 --> 17:24.129 [SPEAKER_00]: That. 17:25.189 --> 17:25.369 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 17:25.549 --> 17:27.050 [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing more was brought up. 17:27.110 --> 17:29.470 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I just who stabbed somebody. 17:29.970 --> 17:31.210 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's exactly what they need. 17:31.570 --> 17:31.791 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 17:32.771 --> 17:34.491 [SPEAKER_02]: Bring me bring Tommy fan back to. 17:36.091 --> 17:38.592 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've never been on the same team. 17:40.212 --> 17:42.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Just keep him out of a different fantasy football league. 17:42.713 --> 17:44.553 [SPEAKER_02]: And Jack and Jack Peterson, all of them together. 17:47.453 --> 17:48.173 [SPEAKER_00]: awful ideas. 17:49.053 --> 17:50.054 [SPEAKER_02]: So there we do enough. 17:50.294 --> 17:52.094 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Colson's got thirteen bombs. 17:53.014 --> 17:54.095 [SPEAKER_02]: Grand slam yesterday. 17:54.115 --> 17:55.755 [SPEAKER_02]: What's at a three run or a two run? 17:55.775 --> 17:58.296 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the home run swing is is nice. 17:59.776 --> 18:05.518 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the he what he was called for about a week was longer than that. 18:06.778 --> 18:08.338 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, yeah, I think it was about a week. 18:08.778 --> 18:10.999 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and now he's just like hitting bombs again. 18:11.830 --> 18:13.434 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he's getting multi hit games. 18:13.574 --> 18:15.278 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's, you know, it's one of those things. 18:15.298 --> 18:18.605 [SPEAKER_00]: This this is the case in point where I go. 18:18.625 --> 18:20.048 [SPEAKER_00]: He's young. 18:22.438 --> 18:24.059 [SPEAKER_00]: Just let him figure it out. 18:24.339 --> 18:27.321 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's going to be a, a feel out process. 18:27.941 --> 18:33.825 [SPEAKER_00]: And from where we went on our feelings on Colson from early this year. 18:33.845 --> 18:34.265 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:34.626 --> 18:37.007 [SPEAKER_00]: To now is polar opposites. 18:38.468 --> 18:42.891 [SPEAKER_00]: Like before I was like, he's not figuring it out. 18:43.551 --> 18:49.635 [SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm at a point where I'm ready to let him figure it out and let him have some run. 18:49.695 --> 18:51.596 [SPEAKER_02]: We might leave the white socks and homers. 18:54.163 --> 18:56.164 [SPEAKER_02]: in what, like, seventy games played something like that. 18:57.104 --> 18:59.845 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, pull this up from Chris Proctor. 19:00.265 --> 19:16.009 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually, I had this same thought today when I was like in a group chat with people talking about like the idea that I just had like maybe packaging like a few guys to like get someone's, you know, prospect that's blocked. 19:16.669 --> 19:19.290 [SPEAKER_02]: The A's have a bunch of these dudes that are like, 19:20.010 --> 19:23.052 [SPEAKER_02]: corner type power guys like and I wonder if you could get one of them. 19:23.432 --> 19:26.434 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like surely loved Tyler Sodorstrom. 19:27.234 --> 19:35.378 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but that was the year that they took care of crochet, but there was a lot of Tyler Sodorstrom hype like by the White Talks. 19:35.438 --> 19:42.022 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a prep catcher, you know, but they went pitching as they often do, but yeah, that would be interesting. 19:43.160 --> 20:02.745 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, when you brought up the A's earlier, I was like, well, you know, they've, they've been trade partners many times and they have some bats and the white socks have some pitching and the white socks have probably too much pitching when these these TJ guys come back. 20:03.838 --> 20:09.741 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if, like, say, fifty percent of them when they come back are not ready to roll. 20:10.181 --> 20:10.441 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 20:10.901 --> 20:15.863 [SPEAKER_00]: For a significant portion of time, you still are going to have too many guys. 20:16.204 --> 20:17.424 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't pick somebody. 20:17.444 --> 20:23.067 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I said it today, like what, like what is like Sean Burk, Lenin Sosa and Jordan Leisure get you? 20:23.807 --> 20:25.328 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not sort of struck, right? 20:26.128 --> 20:45.469 [SPEAKER_02]: like along those lines of like one of your pitching prospects that looks like a guy that'll stick for five years a reliever and so-so because like as much as I've been through it with so-so like on this podcast like I openly wondered like whether he could be like a Marcus Simeon type 20:46.510 --> 20:50.456 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know where he plays long term like with this like core of guys. 20:50.536 --> 20:56.825 [SPEAKER_02]: So if they traded him I wouldn't be surprised, but I don't know that he has like a ton of trade value like a loan. 20:58.788 --> 21:01.752 [SPEAKER_00]: So speaking of pitching. 21:03.199 --> 21:13.085 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, one thing I brought up to you earlier and that you bring up to me talking off air right before we hopped on is you injuries go as. 21:14.406 --> 21:15.967 [SPEAKER_00]: That is a scouting win. 21:17.450 --> 21:30.054 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and like so this dude was on the Yankees and Dodgers and those teams just, you know, they just don't have like any sign of trouble, right? 21:30.094 --> 21:38.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Like this happens to them where they like lose a guy because they just did somebody else and they have so many good players on their forty man that guys like this get released. 21:38.657 --> 21:44.279 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing that's surprising to me is that the lightsax claimed him on waivers and then they outrighted him 21:45.263 --> 22:11.431 [SPEAKER_02]: and got him to Charlotte off the roster turned him into like what he's been or maybe you know what he could have been elsewhere and then added him back and now he's like good there was like a whole host of bad teams that could have also claimed this guy and like nobody did which is kind of puzzling because look I didn't know much about him but I mean yeah it's pretty nasty and he's been good in Charlotte and a lot of these types of guys like do not succeed there 22:13.685 --> 22:14.065 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 22:14.645 --> 22:20.747 [SPEAKER_00]: The main thing that was one of the things is that he would have walks and key situations in Charlotte. 22:21.227 --> 22:30.869 [SPEAKER_00]: And that was when his, you know, when his results weren't great, but in the last month or so, he hasn't had that happen as much. 22:31.189 --> 22:37.291 [SPEAKER_00]: And he ended up managing to get promoted up to the socks and he's been really good. 22:37.331 --> 22:40.512 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, granted, you know, he's not giving you a ton of innings in his pitch count. 22:40.572 --> 22:42.332 [SPEAKER_00]: He does have a lot of waste pitches, but 22:43.700 --> 22:44.440 [SPEAKER_00]: It's still not bad. 22:44.701 --> 22:47.022 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and there's been look like development isn't linear, right? 22:47.282 --> 22:55.507 [SPEAKER_02]: There's been some issues with Canon and with Burke and, you know, our top guys will get into like the stuff with Shulton and Hagen. 22:56.228 --> 23:00.270 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's pretty clear like under banister and some of this like pitching development staff. 23:01.331 --> 23:02.611 [SPEAKER_02]: They found some guys like this. 23:02.691 --> 23:08.735 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you got this guy, you got Fettie, you had Shane Smith who, you know, Shane Smith's a number four starter for you. 23:08.775 --> 23:11.497 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a rule five pick like it's insane, right? 23:11.577 --> 23:12.938 [SPEAKER_02]: So I actually 23:14.397 --> 23:25.340 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel really good about the fact that like if they need a number four starter, like they can find one like on waivers, you know, so stuff like stuff like this is like really interesting. 23:26.160 --> 23:32.722 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's my thinking is that, you know, the white socks are gonna, you know, with these prospect pictures that they have, they can afford to 23:33.975 --> 23:41.385 [SPEAKER_00]: move one of them or two of them if they want to because they do things like this and pick up a Yohundries Gomez or a Shant Smith. 23:41.465 --> 23:48.634 [SPEAKER_00]: And from what it appears now is that the the pro scouting is working. 23:49.275 --> 23:52.299 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, at least at least for arms at least. 23:52.708 --> 23:53.629 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Martin Perez. 23:53.649 --> 23:54.069 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good. 23:54.129 --> 23:54.869 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good one, too. 23:55.069 --> 23:58.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, and he's a, he's an old veteran, right? 23:58.451 --> 24:01.113 [SPEAKER_02]: But like he was the, the right guy. 24:01.153 --> 24:05.895 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Martin Perez looked like if he had never gotten hurt, he was going to bring you back a prospect of the deadline. 24:06.676 --> 24:08.497 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, geez. 24:08.537 --> 24:10.918 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, look what, I mean, look what they did with Adrian Hauser. 24:10.998 --> 24:12.759 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's the same type of thing, right? 24:12.819 --> 24:18.222 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, so Valie's been up and down, but it's the right idea. 24:20.473 --> 24:20.653 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 24:21.314 --> 24:21.874 [SPEAKER_00]: You looked at it. 24:21.894 --> 24:23.255 [SPEAKER_02]: You looked at Andrew Vaughn's numbers lately. 24:24.936 --> 24:26.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's coming back down earth. 24:26.757 --> 24:27.537 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, shockingly. 24:27.878 --> 24:28.378 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man. 24:28.518 --> 24:33.381 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a me shockingly. 24:33.921 --> 24:37.564 [SPEAKER_00]: So I did have, you know, one of the things that we had. 24:39.038 --> 24:45.283 [SPEAKER_00]: mentioned is that some of these guys were being brought down to manage their innings down to Charlotte. 24:46.484 --> 24:52.508 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just wanted to point out something and this isn't like a, you know, like a huge Sherlock Holmes thing or anything. 24:53.129 --> 24:59.834 [SPEAKER_00]: But Jonathan Canon through six point one innings in like ninety one pitches or something. 25:00.574 --> 25:01.155 [SPEAKER_00]: Something like that. 25:01.215 --> 25:04.797 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Sean Burke five innings, eighty nine pitches. 25:05.058 --> 25:06.819 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not pitching less. 25:07.392 --> 25:20.963 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think those guys were sent to Charlotte to, like, I think the issue with those guys was that you're going to destroy your bullpen if they're going three and a third in the majors. 25:21.143 --> 25:24.385 [SPEAKER_02]: And like for all the people that are like, oh, these games don't matter. 25:24.525 --> 25:25.206 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, I'm one of them. 25:25.226 --> 25:26.687 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, wins and losses don't really matter. 25:27.107 --> 25:27.948 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, we'll available. 25:27.968 --> 25:29.309 [SPEAKER_02]: Can't really think that way, right? 25:29.349 --> 25:31.591 [SPEAKER_02]: Like these guys are just like not getting it done. 25:32.151 --> 25:33.652 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to destroy your bullpen. 25:33.692 --> 25:36.475 [SPEAKER_02]: It's why they're calling up a reliever every day, right? 25:36.815 --> 25:39.358 [SPEAKER_02]: So like chain smiths like Iel stint. 25:40.178 --> 25:42.580 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's to like manage inings. 25:42.881 --> 25:44.522 [SPEAKER_02]: Jonathan Cannon being terrible. 25:44.542 --> 25:45.483 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to Charlotte. 25:45.523 --> 25:47.705 [SPEAKER_02]: I think is just they have five better guys than him right now. 25:49.928 --> 25:59.476 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's just, with Martin Perez coming back and with Yolendrie Gomez pitch well, it just, I mean, you can only have so many guys. 25:59.536 --> 26:16.310 [SPEAKER_00]: Although, yeah, this is the problem with having guys that can only go three or four innings as you can't have multiple, you can't like you can't have multiple of those guys because you don't have the option to have that many long relievers in the pen. 26:17.161 --> 26:17.882 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly. 26:18.022 --> 26:19.163 [SPEAKER_02]: So it just like doesn't work. 26:19.764 --> 26:20.125 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious. 26:20.145 --> 26:24.389 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think Martin Perez has been good enough for like somebody to claim him or no? 26:27.113 --> 26:30.617 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's common that you'll throw some vets on waivers like at the end of August. 26:32.864 --> 26:35.005 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he requests it, yeah. 26:35.585 --> 26:41.227 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, right, like I don't see any reason to let him walk because I mean, you're not getting anything out of it. 26:41.307 --> 26:43.188 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the only thing you're getting is a roster spot. 26:43.288 --> 26:47.170 [SPEAKER_00]: And at this point is the roster spot that important. 26:47.190 --> 26:48.510 [SPEAKER_00]: What are there at thirty eight right now? 26:48.910 --> 26:51.291 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's I think it's more about the twenty six man. 26:51.411 --> 27:00.495 [SPEAKER_02]: Like cause, you know, like so you get, you get two, you get two call ups and you can't have more than fourteen pictures. 27:01.938 --> 27:06.701 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, so say you brought up say you brought up Tanner MacDougal and Palette. 27:07.602 --> 27:12.305 [SPEAKER_02]: You can only bring one of them up as a September call up, but you could bring them both up and just get rid of somebody else. 27:12.425 --> 27:16.528 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so I think those two guys are there are candidates. 27:16.628 --> 27:18.990 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think those two guys are very obvious. 27:19.070 --> 27:24.873 [SPEAKER_02]: Like those are the two guys that I want to see is is Peyton Palette and Tanner MacDougal down the stretch. 27:25.134 --> 27:26.995 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that makes a ton of sense. 27:27.988 --> 27:29.109 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for me as well. 27:30.669 --> 27:44.917 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think that you probably are okay with, you know, jettison some, you know, something like a Stephen Wilson or something like that and, you know, regardless of him being part of trade return. 27:45.297 --> 27:47.258 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he does not get in people out. 27:47.478 --> 27:48.659 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he does have options. 27:48.879 --> 27:53.642 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you could option him and get rid of somebody else, but yeah, no, I mean, I get it. 27:55.890 --> 27:57.811 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, there are other people to get rid of as well. 27:58.211 --> 28:00.233 [SPEAKER_00]: I was just picking a name out of a hat, you know. 28:00.333 --> 28:02.454 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they just have made up injuries for all these guys. 28:02.474 --> 28:05.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they literally told Elvis Piccaro that he got hurt. 28:05.856 --> 28:06.357 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're hurt. 28:06.597 --> 28:08.158 [SPEAKER_02]: Do they go take a seat for a while? 28:10.939 --> 28:12.200 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you gave up a bunch of runs. 28:12.260 --> 28:12.781 [SPEAKER_00]: Now you're hurt. 28:13.921 --> 28:17.263 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's just, you know, like Tyler Alexander. 28:18.304 --> 28:19.545 [SPEAKER_02]: He's he's done good work. 28:19.945 --> 28:21.446 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we do we need to see him in September? 28:21.646 --> 28:22.987 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really think we do. 28:24.523 --> 28:26.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think so either. 28:27.427 --> 28:28.908 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all for Santana McDougall. 28:28.928 --> 28:29.409 [SPEAKER_00]: You know that. 28:30.190 --> 28:32.152 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we've had this talk. 28:32.232 --> 28:33.954 [SPEAKER_00]: He's rule five eligible this year. 28:34.135 --> 28:36.137 [SPEAKER_00]: So he's going on the forty man. 28:36.157 --> 28:40.702 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not letting somebody grab and you're not letting somebody change myth among you. 28:40.903 --> 28:43.305 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, what do you think that looks like though, if he's up? 28:44.328 --> 28:44.949 [SPEAKER_02]: Does he start? 28:45.089 --> 28:54.037 [SPEAKER_02]: Does it three innings starts or is it just like long or like middle relief type like what they did with your RTA and other guys last year? 28:54.397 --> 28:57.580 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess it depends on how many innings he has left because because here's the thing. 28:57.840 --> 29:04.226 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if you bring Tanner McDougal in for like one inning at a time, like he is going to be disgusting. 29:07.052 --> 29:08.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:08.594 --> 29:10.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Not that I'll like sway your thing. 29:10.456 --> 29:10.957 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 29:10.977 --> 29:13.980 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't think people would be like, Oh, now he's your setup guy or anything. 29:14.341 --> 29:21.489 [SPEAKER_02]: But like if he just like comes in and throws his best stuff for like one inning, like he's going to be so nasty. 29:21.870 --> 29:23.712 [SPEAKER_02]: That it's just going to be kind of ridiculous. 29:24.058 --> 29:24.358 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:24.938 --> 29:28.800 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so right now he is sitting at one, oh, five. 29:29.100 --> 29:29.220 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:29.280 --> 29:30.281 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the most he's ever thrown. 29:30.841 --> 29:31.081 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 29:31.521 --> 29:34.563 [SPEAKER_00]: And his last Jerry through ninety two point one. 29:35.463 --> 29:43.807 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is with moving to, um, you know, with a movie him to cannapolis like last year was. 29:44.327 --> 29:44.527 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 29:45.407 --> 29:46.468 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't even get into all that. 29:46.528 --> 29:46.728 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 29:46.748 --> 29:50.350 [SPEAKER_02]: So, but how about four, four, three inning starts then. 29:50.630 --> 29:50.990 [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine. 29:52.655 --> 29:56.839 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I would imagine they probably want to get them to one twenty five probably. 29:57.159 --> 29:57.679 [SPEAKER_00]: I would think. 29:59.781 --> 30:01.583 [SPEAKER_00]: So he's got about twenty innings left. 30:02.664 --> 30:10.590 [SPEAKER_00]: So we got what three weeks left in the. 30:10.851 --> 30:16.115 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that you think they care. 30:16.796 --> 30:18.057 [SPEAKER_02]: They want to keep them there to like win. 30:20.606 --> 30:31.430 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't, yeah, I don't see why not the end of bringing them up after the seasons over because I mean, you're not sending him to Arizona and I don't think that he will see a Arizona fall league at this point. 30:32.310 --> 30:35.171 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 30:35.231 --> 30:39.233 [SPEAKER_00]: Baseball, no, I have no idea why Brad Montgomery was in the Birmingham line line up. 30:39.633 --> 30:40.093 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably. 30:40.173 --> 30:42.434 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he played both games of a double head of yesterday. 30:42.454 --> 30:44.895 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's probably Sunday, day off as my guess. 30:45.355 --> 30:48.016 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't do them a couple of days to rest those legs. 30:49.448 --> 30:54.392 [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, to answer your question, I do think that he's had a, or a swing change. 30:57.414 --> 30:58.055 [SPEAKER_02]: Re kind of. 30:58.095 --> 30:59.316 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just, I don't know. 30:59.676 --> 31:00.337 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, guys. 31:01.838 --> 31:06.663 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, Riku just also got over a week long injury. 31:06.723 --> 31:08.765 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not entirely even sure what it was. 31:10.026 --> 31:13.230 [SPEAKER_00]: Might have been him following the ball off of himself possibly. 31:14.891 --> 31:16.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of escapes me at the moment. 31:16.713 --> 31:19.156 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know when Galini's going to be back. 31:19.176 --> 31:20.157 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't talked to him. 31:20.197 --> 31:22.339 [SPEAKER_00]: I should drop him a line and find out. 31:23.640 --> 31:43.473 [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently from what Doug Greenwald was saying in Birmingham is that he seems like he's in good spirits, so apparently things are healing, but as somebody that has had an massive eye injury, I can attest to the fact that it hurts really, really bad. 31:45.274 --> 31:49.376 [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty much the worst pain you could have in your life when you have a scratch to eyeball. 31:53.290 --> 31:57.631 [SPEAKER_02]: Nathan asked about Kylie McDaniel leaving Braden Montgomery off the top hundred. 31:57.671 --> 31:58.412 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a little bit. 31:58.572 --> 32:00.512 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he didn't have him on preseason either. 32:00.532 --> 32:02.413 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think or he had him. 32:02.553 --> 32:05.254 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he was the while he had him in the eighties. 32:06.034 --> 32:08.594 [SPEAKER_00]: And that was six on the white socks list. 32:08.675 --> 32:08.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 32:09.295 --> 32:09.635 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:09.715 --> 32:12.496 [SPEAKER_02]: And so he had him in the eighties overall in the top one hundred. 32:12.536 --> 32:13.716 [SPEAKER_02]: I think in the preseason. 32:14.536 --> 32:19.518 [SPEAKER_02]: And when he ranked right, it was it was right around the time he was slump and bad. 32:21.425 --> 32:23.046 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he went on like the two week terror. 32:23.066 --> 32:24.086 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we talked about it. 32:24.227 --> 32:30.010 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was like moving down at baseball, America and some other publications, too, and then he got really hot. 32:30.210 --> 32:33.611 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, like I get it. 32:33.732 --> 32:41.996 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you're there, there are some people who think that he's who thought he was a platoon hitter already and he strikes out a lot. 32:42.316 --> 32:43.637 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and if you think he's a corner, 32:44.746 --> 32:46.007 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I, you know, I get it. 32:46.347 --> 32:53.751 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's better than that, but I understand the people who don't think he's like a top one hundred prospect because it's a lot of strikeouts. 32:55.032 --> 32:56.973 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, give me one second. 32:56.993 --> 32:58.954 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking at something right quick. 33:01.795 --> 33:03.996 [SPEAKER_00]: So we got a super chat here from Wolf. 33:04.717 --> 33:06.718 [SPEAKER_00]: Who puts on an outfield glove first? 33:06.838 --> 33:13.641 [SPEAKER_00]: Sam Antonachi or Joral Perez Antonachi starting in left field in twenty seven. 33:14.827 --> 33:29.901 [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't think either of them in the minors, you know, I mean, like, is Antanachi similar to Baldwin where it's like, okay, for you to be on this team, you have to, like play more spots, maybe. 33:32.203 --> 33:39.050 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, there's no reason to move Jural Perez out of second or short, like until he proves that he can hit it. 33:39.748 --> 33:41.308 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially with twenty home run power. 33:41.609 --> 33:43.649 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, like that's a asset. 33:43.689 --> 33:44.289 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a base. 33:44.849 --> 33:47.370 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, he definitely has a glove to be there. 33:47.630 --> 33:47.890 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 33:47.910 --> 33:53.532 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know that they have to move anybody to the offensive right now. 33:53.932 --> 33:55.953 [SPEAKER_02]: I just I mean, it's it's a weak spot. 33:55.973 --> 33:57.533 [SPEAKER_02]: They have to add guys to the system, but. 33:59.215 --> 34:00.955 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 34:00.975 --> 34:01.035 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 34:01.275 --> 34:02.036 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for a super chat. 34:02.056 --> 34:03.796 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, appreciate you. 34:03.876 --> 34:04.616 [SPEAKER_00]: David brings up. 34:04.696 --> 34:07.397 [SPEAKER_00]: I am loving what Wickledman Gonzalez doing with the socks. 34:07.437 --> 34:08.297 [SPEAKER_00]: Will a slow playing. 34:08.357 --> 34:10.297 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not throwing too much at him so far. 34:10.357 --> 34:10.757 [SPEAKER_00]: So good. 34:13.258 --> 34:13.478 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 34:13.638 --> 34:21.100 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's a solid force piece, fourth piece, third piece, fourth piece, fourth piece in that deal. 34:21.140 --> 34:22.540 [SPEAKER_00]: He might end up being the third piece. 34:23.546 --> 34:23.926 [SPEAKER_00]: Could be. 34:24.827 --> 34:25.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Could be. 34:25.728 --> 34:28.710 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and he's like, what a seventh inning guy. 34:28.770 --> 34:32.493 [SPEAKER_02]: If it all goes well, but yeah, I mean, I think he should be in the bullpen the rest of the year. 34:32.613 --> 34:33.894 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he should be down in the bullpen. 34:34.194 --> 34:35.896 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Peyton Palette should be down in the bullpen. 34:35.936 --> 34:37.237 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know what they're waiting for. 34:37.417 --> 34:40.219 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it doesn't really make any sense to me. 34:40.439 --> 34:42.320 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Palette struggled initially. 34:42.381 --> 34:49.226 [SPEAKER_02]: I think with the baseball and with the international league, but I mean, he's been pretty good like the last month or so. 34:51.953 --> 34:56.299 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know that we have a closer, not that we, not that it's the most important thing. 34:56.339 --> 34:59.824 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know, do you see that the American article this week about Grant Taylor? 35:00.144 --> 35:00.465 [SPEAKER_02]: So little. 35:00.485 --> 35:07.735 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if Americans writing it, it's a possibility that he's come to somewhere as a starter, you know. 35:09.547 --> 35:10.628 [SPEAKER_00]: That is, that is good. 35:11.349 --> 35:12.590 [SPEAKER_00]: So Jamie brings this up. 35:13.450 --> 35:18.034 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's been one of the hottest hitters for the nights in the last couple of weeks. 35:18.395 --> 35:19.135 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll Robertson. 35:20.757 --> 35:23.419 [SPEAKER_00]: Benny getting a phantom Isle stint. 35:24.360 --> 35:28.644 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'll say this if Benny had another Isle stint. 35:28.704 --> 35:31.646 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody would bat an eye because he's had so many of him since he's been here. 35:31.666 --> 35:33.488 [SPEAKER_00]: I know God. 35:33.548 --> 35:36.050 [SPEAKER_02]: I know or well, maybe Michael A. Taylor gets claimed on waivers. 35:37.880 --> 35:42.286 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, and then you just want those guys Robertson on the team because Taylor can help somebody. 35:42.947 --> 35:43.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:43.488 --> 35:46.332 [SPEAKER_00]: And that would be, you know, it'd be bittersweet for everybody involved. 35:46.372 --> 35:48.736 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure because that's what they did. 35:48.916 --> 35:51.400 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, let's see some of these other guys. 35:52.177 --> 35:52.357 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:53.098 --> 35:55.620 [SPEAKER_02]: And he could like, I mean, he could help a contender man. 35:55.900 --> 36:00.724 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I've been like, they made that signing and I was like, I get it. 36:00.984 --> 36:04.426 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's got power and he plays defense and supposedly is a really good dude. 36:04.767 --> 36:06.888 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, like, that's fine. 36:06.908 --> 36:07.889 [SPEAKER_02]: He could help with you. 36:08.810 --> 36:09.070 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:09.450 --> 36:17.076 [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin, the mercenardical, the gist of it was that like Grant Taylor still wants to start in the front office like might like let him try essentially. 36:18.825 --> 36:20.449 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, Taylor for soda strum. 36:20.529 --> 36:20.930 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 36:20.950 --> 36:22.693 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know. 36:23.114 --> 36:24.517 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that one hurts. 36:24.617 --> 36:25.960 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a little bit like. 36:28.365 --> 36:28.907 [SPEAKER_00]: Hear me out. 36:30.047 --> 36:45.257 [SPEAKER_00]: Most of his errors are at third base, at least as of late, most of them have been at third base, at least maybe I'm projecting that, but I think Caleb Bonheimer's most of his errors have been at third base, and it's not his normal position. 36:45.277 --> 36:51.502 [SPEAKER_00]: He can play it, but it's not where he's normally at, so I'm willing to give him a pass on that, especially when he's 36:52.322 --> 36:53.442 [SPEAKER_00]: hitting the ball the way he is. 36:53.742 --> 36:55.783 [SPEAKER_00]: I will give him time to figure it out. 36:56.043 --> 37:04.325 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't think I've been low on Bonhammer, but I couldn't justify putting him above Billy Carlson just because I feel about him or Montgomery. 37:05.825 --> 37:10.386 [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like like there's a chance next year that Bonhammer's like a top fifty prospect in baseball. 37:11.946 --> 37:13.447 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you hit Homer number ten today. 37:13.487 --> 37:19.988 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if he keeps doing that, you know, like if he's like a twenty Homer shortstop as a teenager, 37:21.530 --> 37:47.865 [SPEAKER_02]: you know like it because he'll go to Winston next year like he's and he's already moving up because I think a lot of the issue was like like people or scouts kind of thought he wasn't a great defender and he'd had definitely have to move off his short right and he's been pretty good like um so yeah he's been he's been a pleasant surprise I think we're hearing similar things out of Arizona you know I don't you know who knows but 37:48.545 --> 37:53.970 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's people we know and trust out there that think that that, you know, Carlson and Foske, people look pretty good. 37:54.130 --> 37:56.713 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think they'll be in Canapolis to start next year, which will be fun. 37:58.216 --> 37:59.757 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 38:00.758 --> 38:04.059 [SPEAKER_00]: So baseball s if we're all present to Birmingham in twenty six. 38:04.380 --> 38:06.761 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know actually if he's going to start there. 38:08.582 --> 38:19.969 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that and this is something that I that I posted about earlier this week on Twitter about him only having four strikeouts in the month of August up until this series this week. 38:20.909 --> 38:21.690 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I 38:22.390 --> 38:32.040 [SPEAKER_00]: tweeted about it, and of course the next day he struck out twice, but he's been his contact numbers have been a lot better and things are looking up for him. 38:32.881 --> 38:38.967 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, obviously the power has been there this year, and you don't see twenty homers out of a out of a twenty year old. 38:39.708 --> 38:42.471 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a very often at all. 38:42.531 --> 38:42.671 [SPEAKER_00]: So 38:47.011 --> 38:48.472 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh boy, here we go. 38:50.334 --> 38:57.121 [SPEAKER_00]: Tom asks, any thoughts about Grant Taylor's shortening is Arswing like G-Lito did back before the two thousand nineteen season. 38:59.082 --> 39:02.085 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so Tom, the thing that 39:05.247 --> 39:15.194 [SPEAKER_00]: That banister said specifically about about Grant Taylor is the amount of extension he gets those guys tend to injure more. 39:16.154 --> 39:18.516 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think it's about it being too violent. 39:18.556 --> 39:26.521 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just that he's out in front of his body a little bit too much and it causes issues, but I could be wrong. 39:29.158 --> 39:32.622 [SPEAKER_00]: So Chris brings up this, which I was talking to you about earlier. 39:33.523 --> 39:35.064 [SPEAKER_00]: Samuels has been heating up. 39:37.026 --> 39:42.952 [SPEAKER_00]: So I looked it up earlier because I've been watching it and obviously I watch all the games. 39:43.032 --> 39:44.214 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's that. 39:45.134 --> 39:51.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Since June first, he's got a one forty four WRC plus plays a plus plus outfield. 39:54.178 --> 39:59.900 [SPEAKER_00]: The backup is is three thirty seven in that in that period of time, but he does hit the ball very hard. 40:01.881 --> 40:14.106 [SPEAKER_00]: So because he hits the ball so hard hard, I am going to look past the backup just because he hits a you know, hundred plus mile an hour really often. 40:15.727 --> 40:22.270 [SPEAKER_00]: And we had the conversation earlier about your thoughts about him going to double a, but 40:24.722 --> 40:27.024 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, wondering how he was going to fare in double an. 40:27.104 --> 40:32.248 [SPEAKER_00]: I just to me, it's kind of one of those things that, you know, we're going to have to figure it out eventually. 40:32.708 --> 40:38.813 [SPEAKER_00]: And at this point, he since, I think he's hitting like two eighty nine since June first. 40:39.554 --> 40:46.760 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you think they'd have guys like Zavala or Perez go to Birmingham for the playoff push. 40:51.401 --> 40:55.024 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, the guy walks at a prodigious clip. 40:55.284 --> 40:57.567 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think that it would be necessarily a bad thing. 41:00.497 --> 41:06.000 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, as Jeff mentions the infield in Winston Salem is going to be very crowded opening day next year. 41:06.020 --> 41:16.945 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they got a they got to move guys, but I just with the, you know, how much, I mean, draw a Perez, I think is it like a hundred and fifteen hundred and twenty strike outs this year. 41:17.265 --> 41:20.647 [SPEAKER_02]: Does Lodi start in Winston Salem or does he go right to burying him? 41:20.667 --> 41:25.489 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been pretty talk about Kyle Lodi's because you, you've like seen him now at least on video. 41:26.520 --> 41:32.541 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, I saw him live and the glove looked good. 41:32.941 --> 41:36.182 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw him play at Bowling Green, but that was also his first series. 41:37.403 --> 41:39.863 [SPEAKER_00]: And the bat was a little rusty. 41:40.343 --> 41:43.564 [SPEAKER_00]: Jeff has seen him what like four times this week, Jeff. 41:44.944 --> 41:47.385 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's been tearing the cover off of the ball this week. 41:48.205 --> 41:51.486 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got three home runs in this past series. 41:52.546 --> 41:52.666 [SPEAKER_00]: And 41:54.247 --> 42:00.728 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I say what you will about the the willing to blue rocks pitching. 42:03.149 --> 42:05.269 [SPEAKER_00]: The the dash murdered their pitching this week. 42:05.369 --> 42:06.870 [SPEAKER_00]: They won five out of six games. 42:08.190 --> 42:08.510 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 42:09.930 --> 42:11.311 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, three home runs in a triple. 42:11.451 --> 42:12.771 [SPEAKER_00]: Jeff saw them three times this week. 42:13.491 --> 42:13.751 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 42:15.671 --> 42:16.272 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know. 42:16.352 --> 42:17.472 [SPEAKER_00]: Lodisa's looked pretty good. 42:19.627 --> 42:23.289 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like what I've seen from now that he's like kind of settling in a little bit. 42:23.329 --> 42:27.131 [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking more comfortable in the box and it's, you know, he's putting good swings on the ball. 42:27.751 --> 42:28.891 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he hit about one or eight. 42:29.892 --> 42:30.072 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 42:30.932 --> 42:31.833 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, his home run today. 42:31.953 --> 42:32.993 [SPEAKER_00]: He was down the line. 42:33.113 --> 42:34.334 [SPEAKER_02]: Like we kind of talked about this. 42:34.454 --> 42:42.918 [SPEAKER_02]: He was a non-traditional white socks pick because he hadn't really had a ton of success with wood bats before anyways. 42:44.459 --> 42:47.120 [SPEAKER_00]: Low low D's is a short stop Chris. 42:49.181 --> 42:58.064 [SPEAKER_00]: So no, Jack, they do not, I mean, they, they don't have available stats. 42:58.125 --> 42:59.205 [SPEAKER_00]: They do have stats. 42:59.245 --> 43:00.866 [SPEAKER_00]: They have all. 43:00.906 --> 43:03.086 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like they don't have stats and stuff. 43:03.146 --> 43:07.748 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a lot of good info at Sox machine right now because vegan was just out there. 43:08.669 --> 43:11.150 [SPEAKER_02]: Some Carlson Foski stuffy interviewed Carlson. 43:12.450 --> 43:17.394 [SPEAKER_02]: And then they also talked to Ryan Fuller who we talked to as well. 43:17.974 --> 43:19.755 [SPEAKER_02]: There was some pretty good insight on those guys. 43:20.776 --> 43:26.019 [SPEAKER_02]: The podcast is just like one episode with you know with James Fee and and Fuller. 43:27.420 --> 43:34.065 [SPEAKER_02]: But then you know there's a whole boy we have Jerry and a whole bunch of other friends that we've made that are that are out there like watching these guys too. 43:35.665 --> 43:35.866 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 43:37.109 --> 43:41.301 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we should. 43:43.137 --> 43:50.163 [SPEAKER_00]: move on to a couple of the other top pitching prospects in the White Sox system and actually have this conversation. 43:51.264 --> 44:01.532 [SPEAKER_00]: So today, Noah Schultz came back after Petellar tend to notice that he had been out for three weeks, four weeks, three weeks and three weeks. 44:02.993 --> 44:06.016 [SPEAKER_00]: And he pitched two innings had what 44:08.416 --> 44:13.362 [SPEAKER_00]: four strikeouts and two innings allowed to weak contact singles. 44:14.365 --> 44:25.011 [SPEAKER_00]: and a run scored, he thought a ball, a ground ball was coming faster than it was, and he moved his glove, and when he moved his glove, ball hadn't got there yet, so it got by him. 44:25.791 --> 44:43.321 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's a wild pitch, which personally, in my opinion, looked to me like a pass ball, but that ended up scoring the run, so he had one on, on, on, on, on and on, and through thirty seven pitches, and I want to say twenty five strikes, 44:44.910 --> 44:46.673 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he looked good today. 44:47.354 --> 44:54.026 [SPEAKER_00]: New grip on a slider, apparently from what I understand, and it was moving, and it was nice. 44:55.188 --> 44:57.232 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was great to see him back in the zone today. 44:58.130 --> 44:59.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, that's that's fun. 45:00.292 --> 45:22.331 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, when did when did opera pitch the other day when he hit a hundred and there was some question like about a hot gun hundred and one in our group chat and so he's getting some some prospect of love like out on the internet to you know, there's people mentioning him and obviously arm, I think there was a tweet that arm latent of, you know, one of our partners now just baseball where he kind of noticed. 45:22.371 --> 45:22.712 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like 45:23.312 --> 45:36.178 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, a lot of these sites and prospecty type guys who have like data and they pay for synergy and like all that like they're they're interest is peat because of like how good his stuff is and like what the data says basically. 45:39.140 --> 45:40.980 [SPEAKER_00]: And to them, we say, welcome. 45:41.481 --> 45:41.741 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 45:42.061 --> 45:42.281 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 45:42.381 --> 45:45.061 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, I mean, he was nasty in Arizona too. 45:45.141 --> 45:46.202 [SPEAKER_02]: He just didn't throw any innings. 45:46.762 --> 45:46.902 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 45:47.002 --> 45:52.783 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he wasn't this nasty, but like, you know, I mean, this is another guy who's bordering on. 45:52.823 --> 45:58.604 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, he does this at Birmingham, right? 45:58.644 --> 46:01.325 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're talking about a top one hundred guy potentially. 46:03.642 --> 46:07.944 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Kevin brings up Saw Schultz was up to ninety seven. 46:07.964 --> 46:10.185 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he had ninety seven on his fourth team. 46:10.625 --> 46:12.906 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he hit ninety six on a singer. 46:13.406 --> 46:14.807 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if I remember correctly. 46:15.607 --> 46:17.268 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not seem better for Schultz. 46:17.968 --> 46:20.049 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I think that. 46:21.369 --> 46:22.950 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, oh, wow. 46:23.610 --> 46:24.010 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. 46:25.631 --> 46:26.871 [SPEAKER_02]: Bottomers going to Winston Salem. 46:27.412 --> 46:29.132 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there we go. 46:29.753 --> 46:30.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Love that. 46:31.350 --> 46:34.112 [SPEAKER_02]: So does Billy Carlson go to canapolis. 46:36.993 --> 46:37.934 [SPEAKER_00]: You're getting crazy. 46:38.334 --> 46:45.358 [SPEAKER_02]: Is he so good that he, you know, I mean, who's the short. 46:45.418 --> 46:50.340 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think unless they just play Colby Shelton there. 46:53.602 --> 46:54.983 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would think probably. 46:56.095 --> 47:05.443 [SPEAKER_00]: Either that or maybe, yeah, they leave Shelton at short stop and then they maybe they move, uh, depino to third base is natural position. 47:05.743 --> 47:06.023 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 47:06.183 --> 47:06.623 [SPEAKER_00]: Possibly. 47:06.643 --> 47:19.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but that would mean also that you would have to have somebody to play first base and, uh, the white talks do not have very many options at first base as, uh, we have talked about. 47:20.694 --> 47:21.535 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you do not. 47:21.595 --> 47:23.897 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, you know, Bryce Elvin, uh, Evelyn. 47:24.237 --> 47:25.098 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just, 47:26.684 --> 47:29.085 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, my guess is. 47:30.846 --> 47:34.027 [SPEAKER_02]: So who's playing shortstop primarily in Winston? 47:35.227 --> 47:36.028 [SPEAKER_02]: Loadies. 47:36.368 --> 47:36.568 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 47:38.709 --> 47:39.389 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Loadies. 47:39.449 --> 47:44.771 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you can run to Ryan Burrows bouncing between third and second and Geral's plan second. 47:44.931 --> 47:46.912 [SPEAKER_02]: So Geral Perez has to be going to Birmingham. 47:50.869 --> 47:52.390 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that makes the most sense, right? 47:52.991 --> 47:55.393 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you're just going to, and then you just let Bonham or plate. 47:56.874 --> 47:59.576 [SPEAKER_02]: Short and third because you have low East there. 48:00.898 --> 48:02.018 [SPEAKER_00]: Bryce Evelyn's on the island. 48:02.038 --> 48:02.459 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 48:02.499 --> 48:04.100 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you have, you have low East there. 48:05.181 --> 48:14.309 [SPEAKER_02]: That's like the only thing that makes sense to me because you're not going to like bring Bonham or up to play short every day at Winston and move low East right now. 48:16.445 --> 48:18.867 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, bottomers, I guess, more important, right? 48:19.707 --> 48:22.749 [SPEAKER_00]: But, or do you play bottomer at third base? 48:22.909 --> 48:23.770 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, every day. 48:24.390 --> 48:24.670 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 48:25.971 --> 48:26.251 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe. 48:26.571 --> 48:29.333 [SPEAKER_00]: And keep low D's at short stop and draw it second base. 48:29.913 --> 48:30.534 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you could. 48:30.554 --> 48:38.759 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they, I did see that Winston's roster was, uh, one or two short of of full capacity. 48:38.799 --> 48:40.480 [SPEAKER_00]: So they have the room to take on guys. 48:40.920 --> 48:41.160 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 48:42.681 --> 48:43.002 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 48:44.583 --> 48:45.123 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. 48:45.143 --> 48:45.263 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 48:47.411 --> 48:47.971 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know. 48:48.051 --> 48:49.772 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a, that's awesome news. 48:49.832 --> 48:54.475 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy that the, the, the, the monitors moving up, but, uh, I don't know. 48:54.515 --> 48:54.815 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see. 48:55.055 --> 48:56.276 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jeff, that's a great question. 48:56.396 --> 48:58.076 [SPEAKER_00]: Jeff asked if Ryan Burroughs is going to sit. 48:58.317 --> 48:58.977 [SPEAKER_00]: I, that's. 49:00.258 --> 49:01.438 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a solid question. 49:01.958 --> 49:04.059 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, also, but here's the thing. 49:04.180 --> 49:09.082 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's the one thing that you do have from Ryan Burroughs is that they've put him in the left field as well. 49:09.122 --> 49:12.164 [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, he, he will get innings somewhere. 49:13.244 --> 49:14.905 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I just don't 49:16.264 --> 49:17.625 [SPEAKER_00]: They'll figure out some place to put them. 49:17.765 --> 49:19.786 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's about all I got on that one. 49:21.087 --> 49:28.591 [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, you start as thirteen dove man says these are good problems to have and they really are. 49:28.851 --> 49:32.793 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just there's just so many guys fighting for spots and 49:33.986 --> 49:43.817 [SPEAKER_00]: This is something that I was talking about earlier in the season is that you are trying to find innings for guys because guys are playing well enough that you think that they deserve to get those innings. 49:44.097 --> 49:46.099 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what you want to see. 49:46.139 --> 49:48.942 [SPEAKER_00]: You want to see guys fighting at the bat rack to get up there. 49:52.409 --> 49:56.011 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's interesting times. 49:56.071 --> 50:04.454 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, future socks obviously, right, but like the big league team is watchable because you have a catching tandem that's fun. 50:04.514 --> 50:05.935 [SPEAKER_02]: And you have called some Montgomery up there. 50:05.955 --> 50:08.096 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think we might have a couple more guys that are interesting. 50:08.116 --> 50:13.858 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, like beneath that, I'm just really curious with just like the hitting development, right? 50:13.898 --> 50:20.841 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I always kind of brush away, you know, like stats of college guys in their draft year. 50:22.255 --> 50:26.299 [SPEAKER_02]: And say, yeah, like you got away till next year, right, but that's usually when they're bad. 50:26.699 --> 50:27.960 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a preseason game, right? 50:28.000 --> 50:28.821 [SPEAKER_02]: It's in full ball. 50:28.861 --> 50:30.983 [SPEAKER_02]: It's great if like it's good, but it doesn't matter if it's bad. 50:31.023 --> 50:31.563 [SPEAKER_02]: That's sort of thing. 50:31.964 --> 50:38.189 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean what Lodis is doing, I think is it's kind of interesting because this wasn't, you know what I mean, and Shelton. 50:38.209 --> 50:44.535 [SPEAKER_02]: He has struggled and Dupino has struggled, but I mean, Lodis is a high eight. 50:45.725 --> 51:11.022 [SPEAKER_00]: hitting well he looks he looks pretty good yeah straight to hi that's pretty that's pretty impressive uh Jeff asked me if uh who has the best short stop arm of all the guys in the in the minors here that's a great question uh Ryan does have i mean i haven't seen him in person yet but i mean i know it's good uh but as of right i'd say probably burrows might have like a 51:12.047 --> 51:13.668 [SPEAKER_00]: a hero for Bonham or maybe. 51:13.688 --> 51:20.630 [SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe he's a hero for Lodi's, but I mean, yeah, I mean, I think what scouts think it's second for Lodi's. 51:21.650 --> 51:22.291 [SPEAKER_02]: Who knows, right? 51:22.331 --> 51:24.071 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he gets better and that's wrong. 51:24.331 --> 51:29.173 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, I think offensive minded second basement is what most have said. 51:29.193 --> 51:36.116 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the, what, shelf, I don't think Shelton's a short stop. 51:37.516 --> 51:39.837 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Bonham, but Bonham has been not bad there. 51:40.588 --> 51:41.368 [SPEAKER_00]: No, he's been good. 51:41.628 --> 51:47.210 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say like the thing that I would say about Bonamer is that I feel like the arm's good. 51:47.230 --> 52:00.974 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's some like one thing that Ryan Burroughs has over Bonamer is the fluidity in which his body moves. 52:01.694 --> 52:04.895 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he's a lot more loose. 52:05.396 --> 52:09.557 [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say necessarily athletic because I feel like Bonamer's athletic, but I mean, 52:10.137 --> 52:18.044 [SPEAKER_00]: To me, like it seems like maybe his hips are a little bit more loose so he can like spin and throw from weird angles a little bit better than bottomer can. 52:18.344 --> 52:18.584 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 52:18.944 --> 52:20.306 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's what I'm thinking of. 52:20.826 --> 52:24.669 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to see him throw side by side to actually figure it out. 52:25.730 --> 52:26.851 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, close to my gummi. 52:27.071 --> 52:27.572 [SPEAKER_02]: Arms pretty good. 52:27.592 --> 52:27.952 [SPEAKER_02]: It's short. 52:28.793 --> 52:29.393 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is. 52:30.094 --> 52:30.975 [SPEAKER_00]: It is for sure. 52:32.581 --> 52:42.613 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, and as Jeff also mentions this is something that we've been talking about for a while that they'd send on VP to Winston Salem and that would, uh, I don't know. 52:42.633 --> 52:43.694 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe there's too much sense. 52:43.854 --> 52:48.500 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's like other promotions coming because I like I think just a bottomer. 52:50.443 --> 52:51.263 [SPEAKER_02]: is strange. 52:51.283 --> 53:05.589 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, I guess it's not because like he's a top prospect and like if it's deemed that he's like graduated from low a like, okay, he goes to high a, but it's like the rosters weird. 53:05.949 --> 53:08.249 [SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like somebody else might move. 53:11.552 --> 53:17.716 [SPEAKER_00]: So today Hagan Smith made a second start of the week and we have to get to it eventually. 53:17.756 --> 53:20.898 [SPEAKER_00]: You can keep on in, you know, ducking underneath it. 53:20.978 --> 53:21.259 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 53:21.659 --> 53:24.341 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, in the opponent, the opponent matters to me. 53:25.221 --> 53:25.561 [SPEAKER_00]: It does. 53:26.582 --> 53:29.024 [SPEAKER_00]: The barrens played the 53:30.532 --> 53:36.293 [SPEAKER_00]: trash band as the rocket city trash band is who are the double a team for the angels. 53:38.274 --> 53:45.575 [SPEAKER_00]: And just my personal feelings on the thing is that they are good enough to play in advanced day. 53:45.595 --> 53:48.296 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Oscar Colis is one of their best players. 53:49.476 --> 53:50.076 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not good. 53:50.416 --> 53:50.596 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 53:50.636 --> 53:52.377 [SPEAKER_00]: He's striking out a ton. 53:52.657 --> 53:53.217 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't. 53:53.277 --> 53:54.417 [SPEAKER_00]: He did not play today. 53:54.457 --> 53:55.217 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think. 53:55.958 --> 53:57.178 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he did not play today. 53:57.793 --> 54:02.737 [SPEAKER_00]: but every time you turn around on these pitching highlights that I put up Oscar Coloss, straight out. 54:03.057 --> 54:05.659 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, so Hagan, I mean, so Hagan was pretty good on Tuesday. 54:05.679 --> 54:12.784 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, looked like he was like turning a corner a little bit and he went five innings, which I think is even, you know, probably the most important part I've been kind of harping on that all year. 54:13.305 --> 54:19.409 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been one that has kind of like disregarded his stuff a little bit, like as long as he's thrown five innings. 54:20.650 --> 54:26.595 [SPEAKER_02]: At A start, three and two thirds, five walks, three earned, what is it, four case, three case, 54:28.096 --> 54:28.937 [SPEAKER_02]: against. 54:29.938 --> 54:31.639 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the trash today rocket pandas. 54:32.220 --> 54:38.386 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, today was three k's versus five walks five walks. 54:39.186 --> 54:41.869 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's just not going to it's just not going to work in the stuff stop. 54:42.429 --> 54:43.310 [SPEAKER_02]: Not as good as it was. 54:43.430 --> 54:48.435 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, whatever, like if you think I'm a alarmist or Ian and you know, like what like 54:48.955 --> 55:11.173 [SPEAKER_02]: guys I'm I'm like out publicly with it like but like Ian's not gonna argue I mean we have these like conversations like via text all day and then I just happened to tweet about it and catch the fury but yeah it's not I mean we're not feeling that great about this right now yeah I mean with full transparency I may or may not have been the the person that mentioned 55:12.916 --> 55:16.277 [SPEAKER_00]: a pel, you know, mark a pel in that conversation. 55:18.798 --> 55:22.139 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just that the command has not been good and the stuff has ticked down. 55:23.520 --> 55:25.380 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can call us alarmists. 55:25.420 --> 55:27.041 [SPEAKER_00]: You can say it's early in his life. 55:27.801 --> 55:30.002 [SPEAKER_00]: You can say, all you want. 55:30.422 --> 55:38.485 [SPEAKER_00]: All we're doing is throwing out the facts and our feelings on this and, you know, we generally just try and be honest about our feelings. 55:39.385 --> 55:40.967 [SPEAKER_00]: on how this stuff is all working out. 55:41.287 --> 55:47.453 [SPEAKER_00]: And there are definite red flags and they are serious red flags in our eyes for where he was drafted. 55:47.533 --> 55:49.255 [SPEAKER_00]: That is, that is it. 55:53.279 --> 55:56.202 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, I, like, I hope he's great. 55:56.362 --> 55:59.325 [SPEAKER_02]: I just like, you know, Arizona following scares the hell out of me. 55:59.545 --> 56:00.306 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I look, 56:03.163 --> 56:06.005 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that they're doing it because he needs innings. 56:06.646 --> 56:07.326 [SPEAKER_02]: And it makes sense. 56:08.007 --> 56:09.808 [SPEAKER_02]: But my goodness, it could be bad. 56:10.329 --> 56:11.690 [SPEAKER_02]: It could be not fun. 56:12.250 --> 56:18.955 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's a hitters league because good pitchers don't go because orgs don't send their good pitchers. 56:20.116 --> 56:23.679 [SPEAKER_02]: because they're usually, you know, they've already thrown their hundred and thirty innings or whatever, you know? 56:23.819 --> 56:26.921 [SPEAKER_02]: So can you get it together? 56:27.061 --> 56:31.504 [SPEAKER_02]: God, I hope so because like another factor is like what they passed on, right? 56:31.904 --> 56:42.472 [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't like me and Ian are complaining because like if they took Hagen Smith like with the ninth pick and the draft after all these guys were gone, like it would be much different. 56:43.778 --> 56:50.200 [SPEAKER_02]: They overslauded them and paid eight million dollars with bats on the board that are like top ten prospects and baseball right now. 56:50.240 --> 56:51.381 [SPEAKER_02]: This has to work. 56:51.741 --> 56:53.261 [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is like not fine. 56:53.281 --> 57:00.184 [SPEAKER_02]: And I know like it's his first season and everything people we've heard me all of it. 57:00.224 --> 57:01.064 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I get it. 57:01.524 --> 57:02.824 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope I'm wrong. 57:03.105 --> 57:04.225 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been wrong a lot. 57:04.265 --> 57:05.405 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope I'm wrong this time. 57:06.006 --> 57:07.406 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm like worried. 57:07.986 --> 57:10.647 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, the socks say they're not worried. 57:10.907 --> 57:12.728 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to know how they like actually feel. 57:14.711 --> 57:23.505 [SPEAKER_02]: They clearly don't I mean, they don't think he's hurt because he's pitching did the change in mechanics like screw them this much like you didn't throw that many strikes in college either 57:24.832 --> 57:33.897 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, which is where the, you know, people said, like, oh, I'm going way overboard, like comparing them to Carson Fulmer, like, okay, maybe I am, right? 57:33.957 --> 57:34.237 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it. 57:34.997 --> 57:39.500 [SPEAKER_02]: But like the first time I saw Carson Fulmer pitching college, I was like, he doesn't throw any strikes. 57:40.100 --> 57:46.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Like these are, you know, like future accountant and PE teachers, like swinging through curveballs that aren't strikes. 57:48.109 --> 57:51.455 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and the markup out like it's just, yeah. 57:52.017 --> 57:54.241 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I wanted to be better guys. 57:54.381 --> 57:54.621 [SPEAKER_02]: I do. 57:54.762 --> 57:55.283 [SPEAKER_02]: I really do. 57:55.303 --> 57:56.245 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like not good. 57:56.285 --> 57:57.287 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not good enough right now. 57:57.860 --> 58:04.285 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, like my thought on that was, you know, it's it's a lack of strikes and the stuff ticking down a little bit. 58:04.305 --> 58:06.026 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what happened with them. 58:06.206 --> 58:08.568 [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, granted, he did end up having injuries. 58:09.128 --> 58:15.993 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that like really derailed his career and like hopefully that is not on the horizon and that's not part of the issue here. 58:16.053 --> 58:18.375 [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, that's where I was drawing the parallels. 58:18.495 --> 58:19.095 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I 58:20.856 --> 58:22.217 [SPEAKER_00]: really hope that's not the case. 58:22.337 --> 58:26.359 [SPEAKER_02]: How would you how would you feel if he was ninety six to ninety nine walking way too many people. 58:26.939 --> 58:28.700 [SPEAKER_02]: I would be free that it's way better, right? 58:28.720 --> 58:39.245 [SPEAKER_00]: The combination of the combination of the both that that's given me the hebie jabies like I just I don't know what to make it and the way sucks don't seem concerned. 58:39.285 --> 58:44.148 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, because some of it some of it to me is like are you not throwing strikes because you know your stuff isn't good enough. 58:46.269 --> 58:47.249 [SPEAKER_02]: Or can you just not command. 58:48.270 --> 58:48.350 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 58:49.568 --> 58:59.162 [SPEAKER_02]: So Tom like Carlos Rodon is a good comparison for him because I think even at Higgins peak if everything goes correctly, he's going to walk four guys per nine in the big leagues. 58:59.702 --> 59:04.750 [SPEAKER_02]: The hope is though that his strikeout rate is up over eleven and he's not given up at that many hits right like 59:05.230 --> 59:11.793 [SPEAKER_02]: If he, if he walks three guys in a start and gives up three hits, but strikes out eleven, you know, like whatever, right? 59:11.813 --> 59:12.474 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine. 59:12.494 --> 59:18.677 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing is with Rodon, like, Rodon didn't see these like VLO dips, like in the minors. 59:18.997 --> 59:25.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, there were times where he was clearly hurt in the Big League throwing ninety three, and then he would go on the IL because he was hurt. 59:27.221 --> 59:29.042 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we, like, hey, it's not hurt right now. 59:31.063 --> 59:33.607 [SPEAKER_02]: changes mechanics, right? 59:33.767 --> 59:34.628 [SPEAKER_02]: Because he was hurt. 59:35.489 --> 59:36.350 [SPEAKER_02]: He was not injured. 59:36.410 --> 59:37.292 [SPEAKER_02]: He was hurt, right? 59:37.372 --> 59:48.627 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess we could use that distinction, like, you know, like his elbow hurt, but there was nothing structurally wrong, and they thought that it was mechanical, and then they worked on his mechanics, and he's come back, and he's walks six guys per night in the incense. 59:50.602 --> 59:50.682 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 59:50.702 --> 59:58.426 [SPEAKER_00]: So which is good for like out of like what Dylan say, it was like, uh, it's not good. 59:58.466 --> 59:58.626 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 59:58.646 --> 59:59.947 [SPEAKER_00]: We're hundred and thirty five. 59:59.967 --> 01:00:01.507 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like four nine three or something like that. 01:00:01.527 --> 01:00:01.888 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:00:01.928 --> 01:00:02.248 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:00:02.288 --> 01:00:03.328 [SPEAKER_02]: It's downright frightening. 01:00:03.648 --> 01:00:07.310 [SPEAKER_02]: And like I brought this up to like this is the first time he's made two starts in a week. 01:00:08.011 --> 01:00:10.612 [SPEAKER_02]: He's throwing in double a like in the southern league. 01:00:10.632 --> 01:00:12.233 [SPEAKER_02]: Like all those things are true, right? 01:00:12.453 --> 01:00:16.995 [SPEAKER_02]: But this was a dude who I was told was going to move through the miners and be in the big leagues at the end of the year. 01:00:17.315 --> 01:00:18.876 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like not even close to that. 01:00:20.113 --> 01:00:22.975 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and to answer Vince here. 01:00:23.435 --> 01:00:26.498 [SPEAKER_00]: He's I did see him hit ninety six point. 01:00:26.598 --> 01:00:31.902 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh seven once today, which is the hottest I've seen him throw in months. 01:00:33.783 --> 01:00:43.710 [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, it's still way short of the ninety seven average that we saw for him in college, you know, like he's averaging like ninety three and a half. 01:00:44.191 --> 01:00:44.431 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 01:00:44.451 --> 01:00:46.953 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we see him touch a ninety six. 01:00:47.253 --> 01:00:49.815 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, but it's not that consistently. 01:00:52.108 --> 01:00:54.530 [SPEAKER_00]: Duffman says he has deception to his pitches. 01:00:54.610 --> 01:00:55.331 [SPEAKER_00]: He will be fine. 01:00:55.511 --> 01:00:56.091 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he does. 01:00:56.131 --> 01:00:59.294 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, and it's the one that is not about that. 01:00:59.534 --> 01:01:01.476 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the one thing he has. 01:01:02.056 --> 01:01:02.937 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only thing. 01:01:03.658 --> 01:01:08.702 [SPEAKER_00]: If, if this is what he is, he wasn't the number five overall pick. 01:01:08.862 --> 01:01:10.083 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the problem with that. 01:01:10.603 --> 01:01:14.627 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the entire problem is that I don't have a problem with his results. 01:01:15.327 --> 01:01:16.890 [SPEAKER_00]: if he wasn't the fifth pick in the draft. 01:01:17.050 --> 01:01:20.656 [SPEAKER_02]: That's that's were over guys that they picked him up. 01:01:21.037 --> 01:01:23.160 [SPEAKER_02]: JJ weatherhole and Connor Griffin. 01:01:23.180 --> 01:01:24.062 [SPEAKER_02]: How would they look right now? 01:01:25.986 --> 01:01:28.808 [SPEAKER_00]: I probably pretty good. 01:01:29.388 --> 01:01:30.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right. 01:01:30.809 --> 01:01:34.492 [SPEAKER_02]: Either of those guys we'd be talking about moving calls from Montgomery to third place immediately. 01:01:35.112 --> 01:01:35.292 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:01:35.672 --> 01:01:35.953 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:01:36.173 --> 01:01:36.453 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:01:36.573 --> 01:01:38.614 [SPEAKER_02]: And what do you think about that from Jack? 01:01:39.915 --> 01:01:42.337 [SPEAKER_02]: How much better is the competition in double in the SEC? 01:01:42.397 --> 01:01:43.878 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's still college baseball. 01:01:44.158 --> 01:01:47.320 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's definitely better. 01:01:47.340 --> 01:01:50.622 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's where you're seeing like all the top pitching is in double. 01:01:50.662 --> 01:01:54.104 [SPEAKER_02]: And the suddenly has like the, you know, like the cavernous parks and stuff too. 01:01:54.184 --> 01:01:54.505 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not. 01:01:54.545 --> 01:01:54.745 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:01:56.252 --> 01:02:03.853 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is, is one of the things that I've thought about for quite a while is that, you know, people are like, well, he's only giving up three home runs this year. 01:02:03.873 --> 01:02:05.854 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, look at the places. 01:02:05.874 --> 01:02:07.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you imagine if he was pitching a Charlotte right now? 01:02:08.034 --> 01:02:14.255 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if he was pitching in Charlotte, the guy would have given up, you know, like an additional like ten home runs at least, you know? 01:02:14.675 --> 01:02:15.895 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know. 01:02:16.355 --> 01:02:18.796 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and there was something with like, Schultz, right? 01:02:19.076 --> 01:02:23.197 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I've gotten this pushback, like, oh, you guys, like, you guys don't say anything bad about Noah Schultz. 01:02:27.478 --> 01:02:40.237 [SPEAKER_02]: like no shelter has been hurt all year like and they've like tinkered with a bunch of stuff like he looked way better today like I was actually it was refreshing to me that that no shelter was that a lower body injury because that explains some of the struggles 01:02:41.234 --> 01:02:42.254 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't explain this. 01:02:42.314 --> 01:02:42.755 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, get that. 01:02:42.795 --> 01:02:46.236 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I wish you would tell me he's not arm-related injured. 01:02:46.356 --> 01:02:47.076 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be great. 01:02:47.436 --> 01:02:48.497 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd feel so much better. 01:02:48.777 --> 01:02:52.838 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, if you were like, oh, yeah, this guy's like, oh, bleak has been like on fire all year. 01:02:52.898 --> 01:02:53.378 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, great. 01:02:53.418 --> 01:02:53.999 [SPEAKER_02]: That helps me. 01:02:54.939 --> 01:02:58.320 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, you know, like, I don't want his arm to be injured because that's terrible. 01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:00.021 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I don't really, really want him to be hurt. 01:03:00.081 --> 01:03:05.563 [SPEAKER_02]: But if they were like, oh, yeah, as, you know, like Noah Schultz had been teller tendonitis and his plant, like, 01:03:06.618 --> 01:03:12.183 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, no wonder why he, you know, he had a tough time, you know, in Charlotte in the international league. 01:03:13.845 --> 01:03:14.546 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:03:14.626 --> 01:03:15.747 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was mentioned earlier. 01:03:15.767 --> 01:03:18.509 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if it was you Jack or not had mentioned. 01:03:19.070 --> 01:03:22.893 [SPEAKER_00]: If we had to do it over again, would you pick Cags over over Hagen? 01:03:23.814 --> 01:03:24.975 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, but I wouldn't have picked Cags. 01:03:24.995 --> 01:03:26.817 [SPEAKER_02]: There's two other guys I would have picked over Cags. 01:03:27.318 --> 01:03:27.458 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:03:27.538 --> 01:03:31.742 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's hard for me to like, like, gun to my head right now. 01:03:33.878 --> 01:03:35.178 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what I take, hey, dinner cags. 01:03:35.198 --> 01:03:36.679 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, I'm taking freaking cags. 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:37.459 [SPEAKER_02]: He's in the big leagues. 01:03:38.419 --> 01:03:39.199 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I mean, of course. 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:44.261 [SPEAKER_02]: But I would take weather, hold, or kind of Griffin over cags. 01:03:45.521 --> 01:03:45.741 [SPEAKER_02]: Still. 01:03:45.861 --> 01:03:45.961 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:03:45.981 --> 01:03:46.341 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:03:47.542 --> 01:03:50.462 [SPEAKER_00]: And dove men says, Connor Griffin will struggle with pro pitching. 01:03:50.602 --> 01:03:53.943 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, guess what, he can Smith is struggling with. 01:03:54.543 --> 01:04:00.485 [SPEAKER_02]: I just like, I don't know why anybody thinks that though after seeing what he did as a nineteen year old, like, 01:04:01.472 --> 01:04:28.298 [SPEAKER_02]: in in high A and now he's in double I just I just don't know you know Yeah, I mean the one thing I the one thing I would do though like if you could make that trade right now like I would just put Cags at first and Tom to mash we're not doing this outfield thing like I don't care go play first base and mash I mean like when we asked the question before the draft last year Joe Doyle laughed about it because he thought it was so absurd to put him in the alfield. 01:04:28.318 --> 01:04:29.278 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't make any sense 01:04:30.098 --> 01:04:38.445 [SPEAKER_02]: And it, and it's the same thing these teams do like who's the, uh, Torkelson like they announced him as a third bay because like these teams get it like they don't want to draft the first basement. 01:04:38.765 --> 01:04:40.186 [SPEAKER_02]: So you announce him as something else. 01:04:40.286 --> 01:04:42.208 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, Oh, well, he ended up in first anyway. 01:04:42.588 --> 01:04:42.808 [SPEAKER_02]: Like. 01:04:44.590 --> 01:04:44.750 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:04:45.771 --> 01:04:46.611 [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's fine. 01:04:46.672 --> 01:04:49.013 [SPEAKER_00]: Is this if you try it somewhere else and it doesn't work. 01:04:49.654 --> 01:04:53.177 [SPEAKER_00]: And they end up at first base fine as long as they can hit enough to justify it. 01:04:55.629 --> 01:04:59.512 [SPEAKER_00]: Um move Hagan to AAA in Charlotte. 01:04:59.652 --> 01:05:02.733 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no. 01:05:03.534 --> 01:05:09.898 [SPEAKER_02]: Guys, like I don't know if anybody, like, and I know like everybody that's listening to us are, you know, you guys are kind of sickos. 01:05:10.158 --> 01:05:22.105 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, like I love the Arizona fall week, but dude, like I'm telling you, like it, it's really hot in the ball flies and like it's a hitters league for a reason, like even like 01:05:22.885 --> 01:05:25.066 [SPEAKER_02]: not great hitters like break out there. 01:05:26.747 --> 01:05:29.448 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Grant Taylor was disgusting and struggled there. 01:05:30.949 --> 01:05:33.931 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I just don't think I just don't know that it's gonna go well. 01:05:35.651 --> 01:05:46.517 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you're looking to go on a deep dive into the rabbit hole on what it's like look up the Magnus effect on baseballs. 01:05:47.726 --> 01:06:05.281 [SPEAKER_00]: on on the 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