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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, radical.
[SPEAKER_06]: The shots meant Pearson, Jodie Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Sharon!
[SPEAKER_02]: Sean!
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess what?
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Today is Thursday!
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been doing this together now for four days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for filling in this whole time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Joe, he's gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are a very, very good fill in Mr. Rizzi.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are very, very happy to have you here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am smart.
[SPEAKER_10]: So happy to be here.
[SPEAKER_10]: It is so much fun.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's time flies.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, truly any time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Time does fly, especially when you throw the clock.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, just don't do that in the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's a lot of stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, I've heard enough of this show to know that Jodie doesn't laugh at those.
[SPEAKER_10]: So I feel no contractual obligation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, not all of my jokes are good, but we are glad that you've laughed at some of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're future people like Julie who responded on the the sub stack at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: She said I'm listening in the future and I can't drink at work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she said, I hope they don't come after the mustard museum, but I didn't even know there was a mustard music.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm definitely hoping they don't come after that either, Julie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying, you know, and also if you can't drink it work, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: We, we in fact can drink here because it's a virtual bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't have to worry about those laws.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, for Julie and a lot of other people showing, I think this is a bird's and stone situation.
[SPEAKER_10]: But we just got to fill up your mustard jar with something potable.
[SPEAKER_10]: And, you know, it doesn't have to be mustard as well.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm saying, Julie, I think you need to support your local museum.
[SPEAKER_02]: I even know this story was going to go this direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a story about mustard.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when I was, I always look, everybody's going to go, oh, shot has a story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I have a story.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, when I was two, I think it was, and I was, quote unquote, helping my mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had this, this really nice entryway in the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were at at the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a stone entryway kind of a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was helping to unload the groceries.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my mom had bought a nice big yellow jar glass jar of mustard.
[SPEAKER_10]: And so I helped, it's a stinky, it's a stinky spill.
[SPEAKER_02]: I picked up that jar and I was like, ball!
[SPEAKER_02]: So just a little helpful advice, do not allow your two-year-old to help you unload the groceries when you got a jar of mustard, just saying.
[SPEAKER_10]: When we were getting ready for the show today, you and I were both talking about how we've worked in hospitality bars, restaurants, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_10]: And of all the things I've ever dropped were spilled or whatever, the worst was a several gallon jar of roasted and pickled red peppers.
[SPEAKER_10]: That smell leached into every poor of everything it touched.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I can still close my eyes and sm- like you know when you could close right there like oh remember that vacation we took yeah remember that beautiful person and it's like the answer day the restaurant when you spilled that chart yeah yeah no there there are smell is it's it's it is one of the senses that a lot of people overlook but you can definitely you know you can pick up a lot from sense and right now
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm smelling a lot of fear from Republicans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm laughing my ass off about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just just had to get into it because, you know, we do have the news on tap for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: God.
[SPEAKER_02]: it's easy for you to say yes the politics bar dot com is easy for me to say but what's also easy for me to say is i told you so and i did about this redistricting war i have told a lot of people any time the republicans wanted to feel frog in a jumps democrats some of them were finally ready to do it and i
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, look, I have my problems Gavin Newsome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you do, but this is the attitude that every Democrat should be having right now and knew some had it on a podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's a clip from it last night.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is radical, rigging of a midterm election, radical, rigging of an election, destroying, vandalizing this democracy.
[SPEAKER_05]: the rule of law.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know some people sensibilities.
[SPEAKER_05]: I respect and appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But right now, with all due respect, we're walking down a damn different path.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're fighting fire with fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the attitude every Democrat, every elected Democrat should be having right now, especially when it comes to these kinds of things, and especially when it comes to fighting off Trump and these maggot Republicans.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is the attitude.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you are a non-Trump Republican, if you are an independent, if you are a Democrat,
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the attitude we got to have, not the one, but these said bad things and we might lose and things could be awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what things could always be awful.
[SPEAKER_10]: Put your hearing thing about this moment, Sean, is that everyone from Obama to Newsom to, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Pritzker.
[SPEAKER_02]: Normally that his Pritzker is, you know, give it to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: But all of them are saying the same thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is, you know, these people are trying to win a game of chess by flipping over the table.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's not how this supposed to work.
[SPEAKER_10]: And we can't respond by commonly resetting the pieces of me, like, no, I think your night was on F four.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, we can't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just not.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's where Democrats have been used to doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is your Democrats have been doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are a lot of Democrats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, there are a lot of the pundit heads.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... you know them and i know them to the the villagers as we were talking you know or earlier this week about and and and look they are all about twenty twenty eight and you and i were talking about this earlier
[SPEAKER_02]: Newsom's got a lot of work to do if he wants to be the candidate in twenty-one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we got a long way to go before we get there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a long way to go before we get there.
[SPEAKER_10]: We got a long way to go before we get there.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not bullish on him.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm really not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if I had to pick one if somebody said pick one now and make a bet on it and you have to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They held a gun to my head.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say let's go Pritzker.
[SPEAKER_10]: But and frankly, you are in DC.
[SPEAKER_10]: So that's a likely situation.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, good standard.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we're sending the national guard is the report by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard that I've heard that Donnie is out cost playing an ice member this evening.
[SPEAKER_02]: God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my, we actually, I'm not joking about that folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have that in the news on tap today as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trump is taking his authoritarian cosplay to a new level.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's claiming he's going to be patrolling the DC streets tonight with the police and the military.
[SPEAKER_10]: I can't believe Dr. Phil wasn't able to book that gig.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's all I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I actually think, okay, I've got three more jokes.
[SPEAKER_02]: The signer is laughing at you right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's laughing at you right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's her joke from two days ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why she's laughing because he's like, hey, take it, Jared.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well done.
[SPEAKER_10]: Imitation is the best form of radio intelligence.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, the, the, the, I think, I think this is perfect.
[SPEAKER_10]: And really kind of, hand in glove advertising for the new naked gun movie, you know, you just get from in the car, you know.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then the people, where the people, where the people.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't disagree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, and it goes right along with the fact that one of these idiots from the National Guard from I remember where it was one of the other states.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was South Carolina took their M rap, their vehicle crashed it into a private, not just a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: They teabone in SUV in DC.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's hard to win against an M rap.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, that's truly what they're made for.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but also also, I'm sorry, T-bone, when you T-bone another car, it actually takes yellow.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you just side swipe, if you hit them a little bit on the front or the rear quarter panel, you know, maybe that's that's the I was trying to avoid it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're t-boting them, you're hitting them, you know, perpendicular head on.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the, you know, I have a big vehicle.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have basically have a tank and I give a crap about you and your own city streets.
[SPEAKER_10]: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[SPEAKER_10]: M wraps are not really meant for, you know, roundabouts, traffic, sir.
[SPEAKER_10]: they've got a bike land to be concerned about.
[SPEAKER_10]: And to be serious for a moment and to be serious for a moment, if you've seen some of the images and videos of these guardsmen taking these, for example, it was a US marshals, excuse me, that we're taking
[SPEAKER_10]: I know if to go out and patrol DC city streets and you see them all kind of raising their hands and taking, you know, promising that they're going to do their best.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I believe that they're going to do their best.
[SPEAKER_10]: I genuinely do.
[SPEAKER_10]: I also think that they shouldn't be following orders like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, this is a gross moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they should, I think, and this is definitely a moment where whatever member of
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether you are in the federal government of any department or whether you happen to be in the military, you need to be looking at every moment and double checking and judging and saying, is this the correct thing that I should be doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this look right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Jumped back to the earlier story, the redistricting wars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Texas, the House Republicans there jammed through their new absolutely biased map last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Texas Senate did that today, but California
[SPEAKER_02]: The California Republicans took their complaints to their Supreme Court.
[SPEAKER_02]: California Supreme Court didn't do with the U.S.
[SPEAKER_02]: Supreme Court does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take things sit on it for five months and then give a bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: They went, nope, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Done.
[SPEAKER_02]: And California Democrats are zipping that thing through.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen it yet tonight, but it's possible that it tonight or tomorrow knew some could already be signing this to get this on the ballot.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not effin' around.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the kind of thing where you look and you go, yes, that is what we should be doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: biggest reason.
[SPEAKER_10]: And by the way, it's got a lot of support.
[SPEAKER_10]: They've the early polls for this initiative.
[SPEAKER_10]: Our Californians are saying, yeah, I guess this is falling on us.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're going to take their position in the heroes journey and say, we're going to accept the call.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other thing about Californians that are doing this, it's I think you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I've seen like, twenty five, twenty eight, thirty percent that are saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason they're saying this is these are not the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: The folks in Texas who should be saying we should not be doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Texas Republican should be saying we should not be doing this because Texas Republicans redistricting attack not only is it explicitly racist because it is very definitely racist.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are not asking Texas voters.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't ask Texas and the polls that are out there of Texas voters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Texas voters don't want this redistricting fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't ask for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't want it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if Texas Republicans had asked the people, they are nominally supposed to represent.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't be happening, but they didn't ask.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sometimes they're asking.
[SPEAKER_10]: We talk a lot about whether sometimes whether people are informed, whether voters are plugged in, whether they give a damn about certain things.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, we don't think more on here at the bar.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, you know, but I do think that people wherever they are, whatever they believe and whoever they vote for, they do tend to have a sense of what's ridiculously unfair.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think this is a moment where it's triggering people's, hey, wait a minute, no, we shouldn't need to do this.
[SPEAKER_10]: five years ago when the Republican legislature and the Republican governor signed this that was good enough and it already gives Democrats less than they earn in the vote share like I don't think we need to push this and by the way they're right among other reasons backfire on Republicans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I'm not upset about that part of it, but I think I think this is this is important.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is why I hammer this with so many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: The PV I the partisan voter index is a great way to tell where
[SPEAKER_02]: where your basic districts could be and that's that's something else we've talked about too is is multi-member districts but the pvi they're going to change these and those districts they may not be in the end up be one by Republicans anyway so there people didn't want it it may not actually end up in giving them five more seats for Republicans anyway
[SPEAKER_02]: This is just, this is the kind of thing where they should have asked themselves, should we do this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And the answer should have come back, hell no.
[SPEAKER_02]: But no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Donnie said jump and they went, yes, Massa.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It Democrats raise all kinds of hell in Texas, in California, in Illinois, wherever we got to raise hell, because it, you know, they, he does not want a Democratic majority in either chamber, let alone both chambers.
[SPEAKER_10]: He will do anything to avoid that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You and I both do and we are, you know, help them inform people so they can make some good decisions on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have the one and only John Fucosan coming in a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a very good drink the day to celebrate one of our favorite states, one of Jody's favorite states as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, we got more news on tap, get yourself a refresh drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on back in, but two, three minutes.
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[SPEAKER_10]: the saline in like a brown liquor like a whiskey or a ride.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: I only recently started to do I for the longest time I was a neat neat neat, always, always, never, never, never kind of person.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I started doing the little tiny drop of saline, life changing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, for vessen.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just softly brightens it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Salt is one of those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you get into food sites, salt and sugar are the two magic ingredients.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can put them in all kinds of things that you did not think that you would want them in and they wake up your taste buds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: Food science is kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sorry, I think you and I are both in this like hospitality groove tonight and I just I actually I think after three or four days serving these for a good exact look serving these folks at the bar that'll do that to it's fun.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's getting into the groove shine just before you kick me back out now.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have you back out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Believe me.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're definitely having a bag more often.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But look, I, you know, the thing about people who work at hospitality, often, I have a great friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: She works up in the cities.
[SPEAKER_02]: Melania.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love you, Mama Melania.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's one of my friends from from college.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what her people call her.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's Mama Melania.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just got her Melania because I, you know, known her very much.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you were talking about the first lady.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, she hates that comparison.
[SPEAKER_02]: She hates that comparison.
[SPEAKER_10]: But my friend, Melania, your husband, I apologize, profusely, I'm sure this is a joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's still singing on AM-Nine-Fifty.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Melania is a fantastic, one of the things that I've always loved about her is that she cares about people deeply and a lot of people in hospitality who aren't just doing this as a fill-in job, while they are trying to do something else.
[SPEAKER_02]: People who actually make hospitality career,
[SPEAKER_02]: that's a key they actually really really care about people and and man she's a you can have you could have any meal you want you could have a snack with her and and she will make the experience just ten times better it's just even by your presence but it's a great people in hospitality do that kind of thing so you know a that's it's one of the reasons why I
[SPEAKER_02]: If you said to me, if you said to me, look, I'm going to give you like a head waiter or a waitress or an executive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which one of these people would you want to talk to?
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk to the white staff.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the white staff knows so much more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, there are a lot of executives who don't treat white staff as human beings and they don't think that they have ears.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[SPEAKER_10]: Speaking along those lines, we could do this for like twenty more minutes, and I think you and I would enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But look, look, I'm sure some of the people here at the bar are enjoying it too, because we know that some of you have worked in hospitality, and you also know what it takes to stand up and do the right thing, and you know when people are being mistreated and quite frankly look that what the Texas Republicans are doing in Texas, and by trying to steal these five seats, is as you said, Jared, before the break, it is absolutely wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody knows his.
[SPEAKER_02]: whether you are democratic independent or Republican, you know that what they're doing is wrong, but it's also racist.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's also important that when things are racist, that we don't just go to a Jasmine Crockett for this, it's important that we go to some of the white people who should be standing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a fantastic rep in Texas, democratic rep and Johnson.
[SPEAKER_02]: She had some words for her Republican colleagues last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is good.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about cowardice and cheats because if you knew you could win this next election, you wouldn't be taking this effort to try to steal five seats from elected officials that members of color elected to represent them.
[SPEAKER_00]: in Washington, D.C.
[SPEAKER_00]: You wouldn't be doing everything you can to take this coalition of diversity and stand up at the mic and say, why are we doing this because we can?
[SPEAKER_00]: And you shield your racism with your party with ignorance and arrogance to come up here and say, to be honest with you, I haven't read the bill from the other side.
[SPEAKER_00]: To be honest with you, I haven't talked to the lawyers to be bringing this before.
[SPEAKER_00]: because you think that people will give you grace on ignorance and arrogance around party because you can't admit that the root of all of this is about racism and power.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hard to say it better than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, there are some fantastic Texas Democrats out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some fantastic Democrats all over the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am just, I am heartened by a lot of the stuff that we've seen especially last the second half of this summer because there are a lot of Democrats who are finally finding their power and they are saying, I'm sick of this crap and I'm gonna stand up and I'm gonna fight and I might get knocked down and
[SPEAKER_02]: The difference between Democrats Michelle Wu, we talked about her yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been Boston.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's out there kicks ass.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It came back today after some criticism, by the way, from from Republicans saying, oh, you know, you don't even, you didn't even take an oath.
[SPEAKER_10]: And she says, actually, here's the oath.
[SPEAKER_10]: And this is the revolutionary Bible that I took it on.
[SPEAKER_10]: No holds barred Michelle Wu.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, just an absolute beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: She just claps back and said, suck it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, look, that is, if it seems to you like a stern parent saying, I'm not going to put up with this crap anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they got the big ass paddle stick out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, some parenting these days, people don't believe in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They believe in other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, when I had to help my mom parent, my, my brothers, my mom said, you know, you are their brother.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not their parent.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't spank them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what I would do when they were little and I was helping is I would grab them by their ankles when they're bad like, you know, they were just being awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: My brothers are eight and ten years younger.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would grab them by their ankles and I would hold them upside down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at first, it was funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when their head started to tangle and they started to get purple and they're like, this isn't funny anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I go, yeah, doing what you did one funny either.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you like that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you enjoy that?
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, no, want to see you going to do it again?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's no hold bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to discipline your ass.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is kind of the way it is right now because the difference between democratic governing in this country and places like Illinois and places like California and Republican governing Republican governing look.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are people who think politics is Iggy.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, I don't want to talk about politics.
[SPEAKER_02]: And some of them are most of them probably not hanging out here in the bar with us.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, frankly, it's also a position of enormous privilege because if you don't think politics is affecting you, if you don't think racism is the most the single most expensive thing in your life,
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you are about to find sexism, bigotry, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are all some of the really most costly things that we don't actually put a dollar and cents on, but we should.
[SPEAKER_02]: But people who think politics is Iggy, if you got kids, and you, you got a kid, you got one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Question for you as a parent, you're, do you allow your kid to go around with boogers hanging out as knows?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a little bit older now, but when he was younger, do you go blind to go around with poop in his pants for hours at a time?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, do you discipline your kids?
[SPEAKER_02]: However you do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever method you use or your pets, you just have a dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you discipline them when they do something wrong?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or do you let them get away with it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you actually teach them what you have to learn the right way to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do the achy things.
[SPEAKER_02]: like politics.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we take care of the bad things we discipline when necessary and we stand a ground when necessary because waiting until later makes dealing with things that we leave like that worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's a trick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Politics is what happens when you have more than one person who are trying to agree on a course of collective action.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you are involved in a relationship of any kind, you want a parent, you want a friend, you want a spouse, you want a significant other, you and your pet.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a political relationship involved there, and the decisions that the two of you make together, that's politics.
[SPEAKER_02]: So saying, I don't want to be involved in politics.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like somebody who says, I never fart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody fights.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody burps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has a bugger.
[SPEAKER_10]: Everybody has a bugger.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sorry, I have to, you were just talking about, you were just talking about raising my kid.
[SPEAKER_10]: And we just had a conversation the other day about how, you know, the kids five and a half.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, parts are extremely funny.
[SPEAKER_10]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_10]: And one of the things that we talked about was
[SPEAKER_10]: We have a rule that we just don't talk about that at the dinner table.
[SPEAKER_10]: The outside of the dinner table.
[SPEAKER_10]: And the explanation we gave was that, look, everyone's going to have an amount of farts in their life.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: And you can either choose to laugh or not laugh about the farts.
[SPEAKER_10]: And really all you're doing, if you don't find them funny, all you're doing is limiting your laughter.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're not having fewer farts because that's a pretty much a fixed amount.
[SPEAKER_10]: True.
[SPEAKER_10]: Your laughter is a choice.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I think that's what we're doing here, Sean.
[SPEAKER_10]: We're deciding to look just far around in the community.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're laughing about it just farting around like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's look, but but that that is beautiful beautiful, but it is funny because
[SPEAKER_02]: Republicans, if you're trying to be polite about what they're doing, the when they're not taking care of things, they are just farting around when they should be doing parenthesis derogatory.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, when when Texas Democrats took two weeks off, one of the things that was levied one of the charges that was levied against the my Texas Republicans and Republicans elsewhere was, oh, they're trying to get away from doing their job.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Texas Democrats said, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that we are trying to do is that we are trying to get the attention placed on the people who are in the Texas flood zone because instead of this redistricting bill being first, the first bill.
[SPEAKER_02]: that should be taken care of is these people in the Texas flood zone.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that first special session, it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to know what the first bill in the Texas Senate was in this second special session?
[SPEAKER_02]: The flood bill to mitigate flood losses and to ban camps for kids from being built or being rebuilt in known floodplains.
[SPEAKER_02]: It should have been the first bill the first time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It should have been first up first time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Democrats had to do this
[SPEAKER_02]: to get these Republicans to do the thing that they had to pick them up and spank their ass to get them to handle things the way that they were supposed to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now Republicans did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Finally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they still went ahead and stole the seats anyway, even though Texans of pretty much every background didn't want them to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the most important thing that Texas Democrats knew, because Texas Democrats know, if Texas Republicans really want something, they don't have the numbers to stop it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they also know that the most important thing, the primary reason that they were supposed to have these special sessions was to take care of the people in the flood areas, Texas Democrats did whatever they had to do to get that push to the top, and they succeeded.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'll just add two things to what you've said.
[SPEAKER_10]: One is that one of the reasons, you know, we have these these clips here with people like Ann Johnson and the Texas ledger.
[SPEAKER_10]: The reason why some of these names aren't national names, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: Because of these jerrymandering, because of some of the rules placed on these states.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm talking about southern states specifically when I have this conversation.
[SPEAKER_10]: Is that
[SPEAKER_10]: the the pressure and the control that Republicans have is so strong and because many of these states you can't have a statewide office if you're a Democrat so we haven't seen some of these excellent powerful communicators and really passionate public servants rise beyond and get and kind of break escape velocity to use a term right NASA which will soon be you know completely defunded escape velocity out of their place so it's
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't even have space for that in the news on tap today and we should talk about space pun.
[SPEAKER_10]: The other thing I'll say is if you're one of those people and again, this is again, mostly a message to the well-intentioned white folks who are having this.
[SPEAKER_10]: If you're one of those people was like, oh, we should just take a saw and just cut off all these places that don't vote on the way we like them.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're abandoning
[SPEAKER_10]: a lot of people who agree with you a lot of people who've been disenfranchised a lot of people who've been abused by a system where they don't have the power that they ought to and you need to realize that those people are your brothers and sisters and non-binary friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very patriotic.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was another clip last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Newsom did his podcast again.
[SPEAKER_02]: This time he did it with Jasmine Crocket, one of these people that we're talking about who is powerful in Texas and she had a clip I think it's speaking of what you're talking about Jared here.
[SPEAKER_01]: using way of all the flags you want to.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I am telling you right now that the most unpatriotic people that we have in this country are matter and this president.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are the real patriots and it is time for us to take our flag back and show people what America is about.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't say that you love the Constitution while decimating it.
[SPEAKER_01]: with every single stroke of a pen for an executive order while decimating it while you are disrespecting our troops that have signed up to protect our freedoms, not just here, but abroad.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're taking people's freedoms away using those exact same troops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she's, she's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_10]: And that's a thing that we haven't really talked about is how much disrespect this president has to use troops for photo ops to use troops to harass people, just walk into words, and the district is where that ice agents and FBI agents as he's doing to generous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, it's absolutely awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can definitely talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And more, we've got that drink of the day coming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a very good one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can, you know, shake a hula skirt out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we've been we've been hitting it this since Monday or Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think is when I gave you the first hint on this one, but for those of you who subscribe and you get the drink the day, you already know what the drink of the day is, but I hadn't given Jared this one ahead of time yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm even though Jody gave gave me all of them ahead of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always the last to find out.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm just sitting here drinking everything possible, just hoping it's the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it never happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I tell you, if you were, if you were drinking a Hawaiian stone sour, that would be the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Today inspired by Hawaii, becoming the fiftieth state on this day's August, twenty first, sixty, six years ago today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hawaii is
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is it I've met some fantastic people from Hawaii and there's some there's some cool facts that Judi put these in because she used to live in Hawaii Hawaii is one of her favorite places in the world So you you know them because I gave you the list of these But I want to see if you know how to pronounce this Hawaii boast the largest dormant volcano in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on Maui How do you pronounce the name of volcano?
[SPEAKER_02]: Leicala, holiocala.
[SPEAKER_02]: holiocala.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, this is why I work in radio.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Always checks seven times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, no, no, no, no, the, we, I don't, I don't think the AP pronunciation guide is out there for holiocala or at least it's not easy, but I still remember when I first started in radio and I was doing the ninety was ninety six Olympics and I had to pronounce gore on even east of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's yeah, the AP pronunciation guide is your friend and I like I said, I don't think it's out there for Mount Holly Aquila.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, that is one of the biggest more than a third of the world's supply of pineapples comes from Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hawaii is the only US state with two official languages English.
[SPEAKER_02]: and Hawaiian, which is very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Only seven of Hawaii's hundred-third-two islands are permanently inhabited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hawaiians like to greet each other commonly with a hug, not everybody's hugger, but a lot of Hawaiians are.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the last big fun fact about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can in fact mail a coconut from Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_02]: No joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: All you get to do is add an address and enough postage.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, how you get that postage to stick on the big old coconut
[SPEAKER_02]: Outside, they, they, there, there's a thing you can click on the link there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's in the drink on drink of the day at further evidence that the Postal Service is a magic trick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's see services freaking awesome and big salute to everybody who works in the Postal Service.
[SPEAKER_10]: We're going to take these round irregularly shaped objects that are covered in, let's call it hair and stamps and we're going to get them to where they need to be.
[SPEAKER_10]: And they will and and to be fair, most of them probably as jokes, okay, and we know that and we're still going to take it seriously because we know you can see are the U.S.
[SPEAKER_02]: Postal Service and we get things where I love US Postal Service is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I I have had so many listeners over the years who worked for the Postal Service.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are just some of the best people.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are, it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so here's the drink of the day that Hawaiian stones, our here's how you make it.
[SPEAKER_02]: First, you got to grab a chilled old fashioned glass, you need a shaker, you need some ice, you need one and a half ounces of good bourbon whiskey, one ounce of pineapple juice, preferably fresh, a third of an ounce of lemon juice, also freshly squeezed if you can, how you need a half ounce of the mounen pure cane syrup or you can use any simple syrup if that's easier for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dash of Pmento bitters gives it a little bit of a different flavor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pmento bitters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not something I usually see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have the seat.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a link that you can claim in order if you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then for garnish, best with a pineapple wedge or a little dehydrated pineapple slice in a mirror she knows cherry.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you probably want one of those little fun umbrellas that you can use as a skewer because, you know, I mean it's a Hawaiian drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are, come on.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here's the problem with the dehydrated pineapple slice.
[SPEAKER_10]: That is one of those things that if it's in my pantry, I have zero self control and I will consume all of them.
[SPEAKER_10]: And if I know, like, you're like, hey, we're going to have to have the Hawaiian party because it's August, twenty first.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'll say, oh, okay, I'll get those well in advance.
[SPEAKER_10]: And then I will eat them all.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's well in advance.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to get them day of just saying, which at that party on my fourth bag of color, we can't be shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's how you make the drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to put into that shaker.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to put the bourbon whiskey, the pineapple juice, the lemon juice, the cancer, for simple syrup and the bitters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then you want to shake it with ice until it is all very well chilled.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then you want to find strain.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically you can strain it twice.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can strain it into a glass, strain it back into the shaker and then put it into your glass.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a nice way to do fine straining.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you want to make sure that there is ice in the glass as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: If some of that comes from the shaker, that's up to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you add the garnish and you serve.
[SPEAKER_02]: Aloha.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a hallo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very pretty drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very tasty drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And look, it also makes me want to spam sandwich, just saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I enjoy those.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or spam misoobing.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, if you missed and drink of the day, you missed any of that, you can always subscribe to it at thepoliticsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, back to it.
[SPEAKER_10]: We can mail you a coconut.
[SPEAKER_02]: stick it inside the coconut stick the recipe inside the coconut mailed tea.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's more than six pounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Back to the news on tab for the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: The economy.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not the one I was wearing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I told you this was going to happen and people were like, I, I didn't comment on Harris told this was going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Biden told us we're going to happen, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, pretty much everybody who has any brain cells told you this was going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but what did they own?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the notes from the monthly fed meeting, I'm showing that the fed officials are seeing more inflation and consumers, of course, are going to bear the burden
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing, inequality has been a huge problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the things that Democrats need to be taking care of at every level, fighting inequality.
[SPEAKER_02]: New study came out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says the average CEO to worker pay gap has surged now to six hundred and thirty two to one, which yeah, but okay, they have earned it.
[SPEAKER_10]: No.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just wanted to see how that what if I could do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you make it all good.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, and that was a straight phase.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, and it's understandable because look, you've also got at the same time, this this thugocracy crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trump in case you missed this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Commerce Secretary Nutley, I mean, a little Latinic got to get that messed up all the time, but
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, not like I mean, Latinic was on a CNBC the other day and he confirmed that the Trump administration is demanding a ten percent equity stake in Intel so that Intel can get the money from the chips act that was passed during the Biden-Harris administration.
[SPEAKER_02]: Holding it for ransom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're the government.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've passed this law.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're promising that we were going to give this money to a company that is going to invest in chips and bring jobs to the United States.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the next administration comes in and says, Yeah, but you got to give me my big normal saying, I'll give you a money, but you got to give me my big normal saying.
[SPEAKER_10]: only one of us is allowed to do an Italian American accent.
[SPEAKER_10]: Here hold on actually instead of that let's pretend like the Biden administration had done this ten percent big and hold on no my brain has exploded thinking about what people would respond because because the Biden administration Joe Biden would have never allowed that Joe Biden in private swears and if somebody had come to him with his idea
[SPEAKER_02]: He would have been like, boogers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he would have, what the hell you smoking?
[SPEAKER_10]: Because it's fundamentally everything that the Republican Party says that they're against, you know, like state control of industry, you know, going side, right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's all over.
[SPEAKER_10]: And the idea that you would do this,
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, bald faced and pretend like you're serving anyone's interest other than your own is mind boggling.
[SPEAKER_10]: And what's even worse, Sean, is that these companies who had lined up behind Trump, many of them,
[SPEAKER_10]: They have priced in the cost of living in essentially a dictatorship.
[SPEAKER_10]: They have priced in the cost of dealing with the kind of government.
[SPEAKER_10]: Because by the way, these are companies that work all over the world.
[SPEAKER_10]: They know how to deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're used to dealing with companies like South American like semi autocracies.
[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't have to be just the global south.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's about to be the biggest economy in the world that's going to start to treat you exactly the worst.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's already been baked that in to avoid, I guess, slightly more regulation from Democrats, which is just absolutely ass-in-ine.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's one of the things that absolutely bothers me about some of this talk about the economy that we see from some of the people that we know in the national media.
[SPEAKER_02]: They said this last year, and it absolutely pissed me off.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I was working for Randy, she hit it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Steph is hit at some times.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard Tom Hartman say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Americans were not angry about inflation in twenty twenty four.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were angry about the appearance of inflation.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were angry because it was about the perception of inflation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Inflation just before the election last year folks was what around three percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's four heading towards five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, things are getting more expensive because of Donald Trump jacking the tariffs around because Republicans won't stop him from jacking the tariffs around.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, Congress abdicating its responsibility to control the power that drives you absolutely mad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_10]: Because it's happened on everything, Sean.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's happened on the authorization for the use of military force.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's happened on people's protections for their privacy.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's now what's happening on tariffs.
[SPEAKER_10]: And the idea that the executive can do all these things when we know that it can't.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's right there at the beginning of the Constitution in Article I.
[SPEAKER_10]: does bother me somewhat I do get a little bit upset about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will be having another Hawaiian stone thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Hawaiian stone hours are good for lots of things, but look, the the the the whole point.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not wrong to be mad at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody isn't mad isn't wrong to be mad about it when she's mad about it because
[SPEAKER_02]: That is something, but it's also important to note that the people that we know who are in the media, they need, we talked about this, we talked about this wishiner earlier this week about nuance.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a hundred percent true that Americans weren't angry about inflation.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were angry about the perception, the appearance of inflation.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a media creation.
[SPEAKER_02]: The media could have said,
[SPEAKER_02]: inflation is down and you may not feel it because the way that inflation works is that you will feel it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Twelve to eighteen months after hits a certain point and as inflation goes up, you may not be feeling it as much now, but you're starting to notice in your electricity bill and you're starting to notice the grocery store and you're really going to notice it as it keeps going up because of what Trump and Republicans have done.
[SPEAKER_02]: The key is whether the media is actually going to be honest with you about it or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the economy is not on standard footing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason it's not on solid footing isn't because American businesses aren't doing well.
[SPEAKER_02]: It isn't because American workers aren't working their asses off.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're seeing a lot of record profits for these businesses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and we're seeing, you know, look, farmers are, you know, in trying times they're doing some fantastic work.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're seeing people who work in America are doing a great job.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the people who are taking care of the economy, the government, the federal government, it is specifically right now under Trump and under Republicans that is failing to do the things that they need to do to plan down the road and to make things better and to make the corrections that we need so we don't spin out of the tail spin and that's
[SPEAKER_02]: It's our job being in the media to help people understand that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Fundamentally, we have enough for people to be to survive.
[SPEAKER_10]: We don't have enough for the rich to be satisfied.
[SPEAKER_10]: And that's where we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: There ain't nothing that can satisfy them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's all in Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's for them folks, just saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a whole other hour here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got the one and only John Fuddle saying coming in.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk a little bit about that guy from Davenport.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: He dated a girl from Davenport.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe he's dated the Davenport.
[SPEAKER_02]: JD Vance.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about him and Georgia and more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get yourself another round and come on back.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a Thursday night here at the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, Jared.
[SPEAKER_10]: How you doing, man?
[SPEAKER_10]: I can't every time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Every time, like, are we trying to rehabilitate?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just know you're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like good cartoons.
[SPEAKER_10]: I like the jumpscare every time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much for your attention.
[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds weird when you say it now because Trump screwed that all up about, you know, thank you for your attention.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, it is nice when people give you attention.
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah, you know, okay, we've been you've been bullish about Newsom and I will say that some of the little things that he's been including in the tweets.
[SPEAKER_10]: It really does puncture and the thank you for attention on this matter.
[SPEAKER_10]: You realize that if anyone else were saying this, you would be like, Oh, this is this is an insane person.
[SPEAKER_02]: from somebody somebody I know knows somebody who was on his team and that was part of the genesis of of of this recent thing is is the fact that they they they were sitting around saying if anybody else put out these social media messages like Donald Trump does everybody would think these people are freaking insane and then they presented to the government like so why don't we do it
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's part of the reason why they're doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the funny thing is, the thing that is absolutely tells you how clueless the folks on the right are that they don't have any damn idea is because they're going, you know, like we had the clip, uh, that was from Perino a couple of days ago, who was saying, oh, Gavin, Nathan, she didn't mean there are so many of them in the writer doing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're grabbing their pearls and they're going, oh my God, I can't believe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't understand.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't seem to make them connection.
[SPEAKER_02]: That Newsom is doing this specifically so that people can see how asynine trumps mode of communication is.
[SPEAKER_02]: and how ridiculous it is, and how small and stupid it makes the person who is sitting in the seat of the president of the United States look not just to Americans, but to the whole world.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole world looks and says, this guy's dumb ass.
[SPEAKER_10]: We've been having this conversation all week.
[SPEAKER_10]: Can we talk about why that's still not enough for me?
[SPEAKER_10]: Because I'm still not excited about it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love that he's do.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love that Newsom is doing this.
[SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't clear him of all the stuff that I'm still mad about.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, and I don't think it should look.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it should.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it should clear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, twenty twenty eight is a long ways away if I'm going to be older by then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully if we all make it that far, but well, and some of us won't, and that's the scary part.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, right, but that is part of why I am I'm not necessarily bullish on everything new some just because I like something that somebody does doesn't mean I had somebody bitch and complain because I said what was it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Basos allowed something good.
[SPEAKER_02]: He funded something good and some jackass on one of the social media platforms tried to jump down my throat because
[SPEAKER_02]: You said he did something good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was one thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: One thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said I was thankful that he did one small, good thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't mean that all of a sudden I'm like everything else he does is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I give Kudos where they're due and I give my blast people when they deserve it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the biggest thing about the reason why I'm so bullish about Newsom's attitude about his team's communication strategy right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: is that the dichotomy between that and Chuck Schumer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to write it fairly worded letter and boy, you're going to be mad by night, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to write us, you want to write a letter that actually does something when I was in elementary school.
[SPEAKER_02]: My mother, I give you, I kid you not on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the small letter writing paper used to see it very commonly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that was my mom's paper.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, I mean, I'm not talking like full size paper.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking like likely your small message paper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was like, you know, the kind of paper you write that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm going to have you ask.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would occasionally walk to the front of the class with one of these small notes in this small envelope.
[SPEAKER_02]: And with every step that I got to the front of the class, the blood would drain from the face of the teacher.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they would open it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my mother, I'm certain.
[SPEAKER_02]: I read some of them when I was older, but she ripped their ass so hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were like, yes ma'am, even when she wasn't there.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a sternly worded letter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chuck Schumer has no concept of what a sternly worded letter actually is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you got this, when you got two communication styles, the one that most Democrats have said were, we have to be nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though they're beating us to death with a golf club, we still need to say that there are friends across the aisle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or you have Gavin Newsom style of FU.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on the back of a dinosaur with guns and FU.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to jam this through.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, the California State Assembly approved the ballot measure today because Newsom and the California Democrats turn to the Texas Democrats or turn to the Texas Republicans and said, F U. We're not going to let this stand.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why that's why I'm so supportive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not necessarily of everything he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: But of that month, J.B.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pritzker, fantastic and Illinois.
[SPEAKER_02]: That that's Pritzker's, Pritzker's mode of communication in general seems to be the Chicago way.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems to be, it seems to be a very low level in one of his guys for the more guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's Shica and I love Pritzker for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is the mode of communication.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't need to be aggressive, although aggressive helps sometimes, but it does need to be assertive.
[SPEAKER_02]: It needs to be the people are unhappy with you and we are going to fix it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Period.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it doesn't know what to do with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: When they get faced with that, they're like,
[SPEAKER_10]: We're in this moment right now, and Republicans have attacked immigrants, they've attacked trans-pote folks, and they are literally writing people women on house neighbors, all over the country, but especially in these, you know, my community.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I just think that the idea that someone who has a bad record on many of those issues, the core targets,
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, Republicans last summer, we're targeting Haitians this summer, they're targeting unhoused.
[SPEAKER_10]: And they're just going to keep moving through the alphabet.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're targeting their own.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about this yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: How Republicans, we didn't get into as much as I wanted to.
[SPEAKER_02]: About how Republicans are even attacking their own.
[SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't know what one of the best cities in the country is for taking care of the homeless, the unhoused.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take a guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's not Washington, unfortunately, although I know that we do a decent job here compared to others.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some West Coast states that do not too bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are some places in the south of you, but I was, I was saying, you said Republicans, so I'm going to get somewhere in Texas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dallas, specifically.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dallas is the place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a story.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was in the news on tap either Monday or maybe it was last week, Thursday or Friday.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't read this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you do, but just good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad everybody does.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can subscribe to the news on tap for free at thebalticsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Dallas has done a fantastic job.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the people that I do think you should get out there following on social media and other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: His name is Ned Resnekoff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ned used to work at Think Progress here in DC.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ned is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ned has worked for several Olympic, yes, in my backyard organizations.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of Ned's big bug abuse, one of his big things that he is on his mind is housing and the unhoused.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the simple fact of the matter is there are plenty of studies that show the best way to take care of the homeless, the unhoused problem is to give them homes.
[SPEAKER_02]: is to give them housing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jody's, this is a big thing on Jody's thing all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, look, would you rather have like a parking lot filled with little tents or maybe give all of them these little mini homes?
[SPEAKER_02]: Which of these is going to even be more healthy?
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, and frankly, I've seen these studies, too, where it's actually more cost effective.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like even if you don't have a heart or a brain, you know, like you just write.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just pure costs.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is it's it's something like twenty thousand dollars a year to put someone in some kind of home.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's something like fifty thousand dollars a year.
[SPEAKER_10]: Put them in the kind of, uh, one person's payability.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll pay that thirty thousand dollar difference in taxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Dallas figured it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: They house these people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess what the Trump administration wants them to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: They want them to stop doing what works.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, they want to stop congestion pricing in New York.
[SPEAKER_10]: So why not just stop what works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stop everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stop a congestion pricing in New York City because we know that works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stop the taking care of the homeless in Dallas because what they're doing works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've seen this, too, with whether it's like people who work in harm reduction for people who use drugs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, let's not even talk about sex education.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, that's a, that's a thing that they've been fighting against for so long.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's easy to forget that they, you know, have been fighting against.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, you're a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_10]: We will stop them from doing what they were doing in on the beaches.
[SPEAKER_02]: It reminds me of, of, uh, Johnny and I were talking about this recently about how, uh, some people don't seem to get it when it comes to language communication that if one method isn't working, you try and find another.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet there are a lot of these same, same people who I, I guarantee many of them vote the like maggots.
[SPEAKER_02]: They vote, you know, whatever Trump says goes and
[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of trying to find another way to communicate, they just yell louder.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just yell English louder.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, it does sometimes feel like you're in a foreign country and you're trying to order, you know, you know, some kind of food item.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, you're like, I'd like some pizza, please.
[SPEAKER_10]: And they're like, I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_10]: Like pizza.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like you to charge the rich more taxes because they can afford it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they go, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like you to charge the rich more tech one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because we get mad.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can get angry at them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there are other ways to communicate how things are good or bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, one of the ways you can do it is with polls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and you just stab them with the poll.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're trying to say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, but one of the ways you do is polls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Harriet and over at CNN has a poll on the big thing that Republicans have been doing with their big, beautiful bill.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, good luck to JD events trying to sell this bill.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all I can say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, even among Republican voters, it's far less popular than the Donald Trump is.
[SPEAKER_03]: But look at voters overall, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this gives you a real understanding of what's exactly cooking, which you see is an every single poll.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is underwater.
[SPEAKER_03]: When the best you can do on the net favorable rating is minus ten points.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's an unpopular, but minus ten minus forty minus ninety minus twenty minus twenty minus twenty two.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have not seen a single reputable poll in which thing which this thing is anything more popular than being ten points underwater.
[SPEAKER_03]: Truthfully, as I said at the top here, J.D.
[SPEAKER_03]: fans.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good luck to you, buddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he advances is down in Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: For those of you who missed it, Vance is down in Georgia trying to sell that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the devil did go down to Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the, the, the, I don't know if you would call him the dumbass devil, but yes, the dumbass devil, J.D.
[SPEAKER_02]: Vance did, in fact, go down to Georgia today.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have somebody great who is not a devil, but knows all about devils and saints coming in.
[SPEAKER_02]: John Fiegels saying, how are you doing today, man?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, didn't Gavin Newsome save us all yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not yet, but we will definitely talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will talk about JD Vance and, you know, he's originally from Damport.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, wait, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just as girlfriend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, we will talk about that and more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jared Rizzi in again for Jody's evening and the one and only John Fugle saying as we noted just came into the bar here.
[SPEAKER_02]: John, there is some
[SPEAKER_02]: Religious related news that came down a little bit later today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure if you heard we have a little sound effect for this So hypocrites and liar James dobson died today and here it's it's a moment of sound just for him That's all the people glad he's dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's good that he's dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we should just say and and he's dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you know, I'm not going to take any pleasure in the guys passing.
[SPEAKER_08]: I really wish he could have actually done something like read the New Testament once before he died.
[SPEAKER_08]: I imagine if James stops and had just once read the Jesus parts, how awful would that have been for him?
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, he would have had to throw out his values about being cruel to gay people, being cruel to because Jesus commands us to treat them as we treat him.
[SPEAKER_08]: His love for cruelty to migrants and immigrants, Jesus commands us.
[SPEAKER_08]: to welcome the stranger, individuals and nations.
[SPEAKER_08]: Jesus says in Matthew twenty five individuals and nations will be judged by how well they welcome the stranger heaven or hell.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank God, dobs and never read that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Think about all the xenophobia that would have been denied to him in his life.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, imagine if he'd been forced to call illegal Christian refugees, like a decent man, this, I mean, it would have burned him, like calling water on Glenn back in a church.
[SPEAKER_10]: It would have burned.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's so hard to read when you were actively hitting a child.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just don't understand why you would think you can read a book.
[SPEAKER_10]: Unless, I mean,
[SPEAKER_10]: We have to open the book and try to read it while you're beating a child.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's not easy.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you liberals want to scop at this, but physically abusing a child or someone else's by the way, because that's allowed in Dobsonland.
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, yeah, but forgot for the Lord.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's one of the best ways to get in the world.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's hard to hold a book while you physically abuse a child.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: Have you tried doing it with a tablet?
[SPEAKER_08]: Those great characters.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, dobson thought these things through for us and you liberals can't appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Can you imagine if he'd realize that Jesus wants us to care for these poor and sick drugs, thank God.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank God, this guy spent his entire life hiding behind a giant cross to defecate all over the gospel.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad I'm glad he's gone.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't get into that because like, you know, I mean, I'm not going to take the light than anybody else's stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm more like him, but I don't mean that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I'm glad as as a media figure, he's gone because, I mean, and yes, he's just going to be backfilled.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I'm glad he got hurt people anymore, but he's still hurting him the on the grave because the people he groomed
[SPEAKER_08]: to adopt this inhumane stature that again is then direct opposition to the Jewish brown skinned liberal Nazarene pretended to follow his own life.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, I feel bad for I feel bad for the people who are still going to be hurt by this corrosively false Christianity, but you know what, I'm not angry at him today.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm angry at the damn American media for putting this guy on my TV my entire life and never once in any corporate media outlets, never once asking Reverend James Thompson, where in your holy book does Jesus say to incarcerate people for abortion?
[SPEAKER_08]: Where in your holy book does Jesus tell you to make life crappier for gay kids?
[SPEAKER_08]: Where in your holy book?
[SPEAKER_08]: Does Jesus teachings justify voting for Donald Trump ever?
[SPEAKER_08]: The media plays dumb.
[SPEAKER_08]: We have two generations of people who think the ministry of Jesus is about forcing citizens to be pregnant against their will.
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's because of forty five years of guys like Dobson and Falwell and the media letting them get away with it because the media doesn't ask these guys follow up questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: exactly although although admittedly maybe some of them will have to answer some difficult questions if you can get on with them and talk about your new book separation of church and hate which is coming out of September.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to get my copy of the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have it yet, but it is absolutely true drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's the kind of thing that I think I have always said for those of us who are on our side of the media, if you want to look at it, the bidirectional left-right media when you're talking about politics in the U.S.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that we do is we are in people with facts and information.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this book, it seems like it's going to be filled with the kind of facts that people like James Thompson would have.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's why I wrote it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_08]: I wrote this book deliberately.
[SPEAKER_08]: as a guide.
[SPEAKER_08]: I put the word guide on the front page that the book is called separation of church and hate, a sane person's guide to taking back the Bible from fundamentalist fascists and flock fleecing frauds.
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's for anybody of any religion or any atheist or any agnostic or even conservative Christians who've ever had to deal with extreme right wing, fundamentalist or Christian nationalist.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's for anyone who's ever watched Fox News and said, Jesus Christ, these people are the opposite of Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so what I've done is take every issue that divides us.
[SPEAKER_08]: From abortion, LGBTQ equality, from gun rights, from feminism, from sexuality, death penalty, I've taken every issue that divides us and shown how if you're against the right wing, Jesus is probably on your side.
[SPEAKER_08]: They love that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Christian Nationalists,
[SPEAKER_08]: They worship Jesus, okay?
[SPEAKER_08]: They fight for Jesus.
[SPEAKER_08]: They have no interest in following His teachings.
[SPEAKER_08]: And in reality, they take great delight in violently rejecting His teachings and giving a middle finger to everything that He said, right when Christian and your listeners know this, whether you were raised religious or not.
[SPEAKER_08]: Their Jesus is three things.
[SPEAKER_08]: The manger, the miracles, and the cross, not the three years He spent
[SPEAKER_08]: telling people what they'd have to do to call America a Christian nation.
[SPEAKER_08]: They don't want to do anything this guy commands.
[SPEAKER_08]: And again, when did the media ever say to Mike Pence, where did Jesus chase the J. Gay wedding cakes out of the temple?
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like our Christianity is so messed up in this country because politicians in media are too damn terrified.
[SPEAKER_08]: to come out and say what the Bible actually does and does not say.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I wrote this book for anybody because you don't have time to have a messed up childhood like me being raised by two experts and it's a reference guide.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's got every argument the right wing uses to justify Christian cruelty on every topic and the scriptural guide you'll need to fight back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, it's just it's a kind of debating.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, whatever, whenever your tour gets down here to DC for the book, I absolutely, I will be there to make sure that I think I'll have you sign it and whatever, because that's going to be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things I know that you mentioned, obviously, you know, that you have to accept a stranger.
[SPEAKER_02]: When we were talking earlier about homelessness, about how Dallas has done a really good job of taking the unhoused and knocking it down because, among other things, they give them housing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they have been.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now the Trump regime wants to get rid of that.
[SPEAKER_10]: So today, we're sweeping them up on the streets of Washington, DCs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take them to Jails in DC, which is like whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Today, J.V.
[SPEAKER_02]: Vance, he went down to Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was trying to sell the big ugly bill.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here's what he had to say on homelessness.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to make you want to scream.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hang on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got this in the DVR.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know for the life of me what happened in this country where we decided that the compassionate thing was to let somebody fester on the streets instead of be, instead of get the treatment that they need.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's very simple to me.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know why we accepted as parents and as grandparents and as people who just want to walk down the street and comfort, why we accepted that it was reasonable to have crazy people yelling at our kids.
[SPEAKER_07]: You should not have to cross
[SPEAKER_07]: the street in downtown Atlanta to avoid a crazy person yelling your family.
[SPEAKER_07]: Those are your streets.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_08]: Totally disgusting.
[SPEAKER_08]: So you'll notice that America's doughiest a moral eyeliner model.
[SPEAKER_08]: He's not actually calling for our tax dollars to house and treat the homeless people on the strike.
[SPEAKER_08]: He doesn't like these goddamned eye source.
[SPEAKER_08]: Good Christian people have got, you know, racism to normalize.
[SPEAKER_08]: They don't want to see the drugs of humanity on their way to worship a white Jesus and church.
[SPEAKER_08]: Look, God is unambiguous about this and so is Jesus.
[SPEAKER_08]: If you read the Hebrew Scriptures or the New Testament, not only do they command you to care for the poor and that it is a struggle that never ends.
[SPEAKER_08]: God and Jesus, don't really have a very good opinion of rich people.
[SPEAKER_08]: I hate to tell you, and Jesus is brother James Holy crap, you could put that on a classroom wall any day with that guy had to say.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so yeah, I mean, they worship well, look if J.D.
[SPEAKER_08]: Vance was coming out here saying,
[SPEAKER_08]: I'll agree with him.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've lived in cities my whole life.
[SPEAKER_08]: I live in New York.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've lived in Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've lived around homeless people.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm raising a child around homeless people.
[SPEAKER_08]: I spent my teens wondering, why can't we do anything about it?
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, we can't do anything about it because Christians don't care enough.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's why that's why we needed Medicare and Social Security because Christians were not going to do the job.
[SPEAKER_08]: So we, the people, had to use democracy to do the Lord's work and help the least of us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, if JD van's wants to come out and say, yes, we have to get these people off the streets.
[SPEAKER_08]: These people have incredible human potential.
[SPEAKER_08]: They should be healed.
[SPEAKER_08]: They should be given the treatment they need as long as it takes to get them back on the streets, working, building families, paying into our social securities.
[SPEAKER_08]: Great.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'll sign on for that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's a great use of taxpayer dollars.
[SPEAKER_08]: As much as I'll miss, you know, a six hundred million dollar oil subsidies, just for exon beans, well, be in themselves.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, let's, if I'm a little money into getting the homeless off the streets, because it'll pay back when these people are clean, working, paying taxes.
[SPEAKER_08]: It pays for itself.
[SPEAKER_08]: And we have taken care of the poor is so good for capitalism.
[SPEAKER_08]: Let's put money in their pockets so they can buy crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have proof that it works in places that are run by Republicans like Dallas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I'm sitting there going, so this is one of those things where when some of these Republicans are like, well, you know, but I voted for Trump.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I can get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does not care.
[SPEAKER_08]: Every one of Trump's budgets ever submitted has caught Medicare and Social Security and Medicaid.
[SPEAKER_08]: every budget he's ever submitted.
[SPEAKER_08]: Maga is the opposite of the teachings of Christ and they're the opposite of the Old Testament too.
[SPEAKER_08]: And again, you don't have to believe in the Bible as absolute literal fact to call out these depraved fascists.
[SPEAKER_08]: And can I also just take a moment to say how great it is to be on the air with Mr. Jared Rizzi.
[SPEAKER_08]: One of the finest reporters in the game.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_08]: I just was an all of this guy at a at serious XM and it's just a
[SPEAKER_08]: one of the sharpest and and a really decent guys in a year and let's be honest most easy to your list are horrible people we can talk just no one listening there they're awful i mean you know so this guy's good i mean john i'll say this and and you know you know many years and india prevented me from saying a lot of this for this point of yours
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, you know, I hope that everyone has the moral clarity of the decision that I had when I was leaving serious extent where they said literally you have to change the way you're covering this administration and I said no and they said here's the door and by the way, we're hiring back Steve Bannon and doing a bunch of other things.
[SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then they fired him.
[SPEAKER_08]: They fired him.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he's too Nazi.
[SPEAKER_08]: They had to fire him.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, but he was also, you know, he might have been going to prison.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't remember the time lines are weird.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, it was the racism that got him fired, Jared.
[SPEAKER_10]: But here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I really hope that everyone's moral choices are as clear as that because in this moment when things are hard, I've never once questioned that it was the right choice.
[SPEAKER_09]: Same.
[SPEAKER_10]: I also wondered, frankly, how hard things have been in the years since then, just I understand why a lot of people don't because the job market out there is hard.
[SPEAKER_10]: The environment for people who do the kind of work that we do, you know the pressure to conform because where those opportunities exist,
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a narrower and narrower field for people.
[SPEAKER_10]: And media's tough.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it's just a tough thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I never thought I did the wrong thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I was literally told for ten.
[SPEAKER_10]: There are more people on the national wall at an auguration day than there are.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I said no.
[SPEAKER_10]: And it basically went downhill from there.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm so that's why I just I'm so proud to live in a country with with brave patriots like Columbia University for MSNBC firing most of the brown on camera personality really you know like I just where where can we get more lindy leaves as far as I'm concerned like this is
[SPEAKER_08]: This is, if I can just get a nation of grovelers, like Zuck, come with me and you'll be... No, Austin, I was like, world up your capitulation.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we're looking for some good, if we're looking for some folks who really, you know, are icons to look at.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the Texas Democrats, we play this one earlier, and I think that's been croqued.
[SPEAKER_08]: It is the only eye to look at.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's fantastic, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm talking at a whole different level.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's very integral.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's great, Roddy.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've met her.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've told her destiny's coming for both of us.
[SPEAKER_08]: She doesn't believe it.
[SPEAKER_08]: She actually got a restraining word, but I know.
[SPEAKER_08]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's five hundred yards.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you heard about Jasmine?
[SPEAKER_08]: If you're listening by the way, there's a new security guard outside your house.
[SPEAKER_08]: Who's he?
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: Go ahead, Sean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you heard about rep and Johnson news down there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Democrat?
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: I played her on the air last night on Syria.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I love the fact that she did because she's a white woman standing up for her black colleagues and saying and her Asian colleagues and her Hispanic colleagues and her white colleagues and kicking the ass of those racist Republicans in Texas who ram that through to try and steal and I love the fact that they're trying to steal five votes.
[SPEAKER_02]: The California Democrats are like, not going to have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to take back those five Republican votes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in Texas, those those those new districts that they've said, the PVIs are much lower.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it actually will end up at a couple of those districts that the Republicans put in are actually probably going to be more competitive than they think they are.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's going to.
[SPEAKER_08]: And again, Democrats will more than make up for the five seats stolen.
[SPEAKER_08]: Now, look, I've been converted on this.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think what first off, let's give a moment to thank Gavin Newsom for learning how to read the room.
[SPEAKER_08]: I loved watching him give Carl Charlie Kirk a pedicure, but I think this is a bit better for his presidential ambitions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God, yes, because I think Jared, I were talking about this, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, while I don't love everything that Newsom has done his communication side right now was what most of the month ago.
[SPEAKER_08]: He was, he was pitching a reality show called Dancing with Fascists with him doing a tango with the event.
[SPEAKER_08]: Now he's actually interested in being president.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will talk about that and more.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got the one and only John Fuckel saying it is fantastic Thursday night Jared Rizzy is here.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sean's Emmy campaign.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Bill board outside.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, my Emmy campaign is a hundred percent on Reddit this year.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_08]: Hundred percent on Reddit.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, I did see you on the R conservative.
[SPEAKER_10]: I saw you there.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, you were on the line.
[SPEAKER_08]: The R conservative of Reddit.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I was on it was I on a really.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_08]: They go after me all the time.
[SPEAKER_10]: When you get a death threat, they get a that's the knock on the door.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's what let me tell you a death threat means more from a Christian than just about any other demographic because they mean it.
[SPEAKER_08]: They really do they really do hey
[SPEAKER_08]: If there was no death penalty, Jesus would still be here.
[SPEAKER_08]: These guys don't mess around.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, while we're talking about talking out of school, about the previous times, I will say that one of the best parts about working at that employer was all the time.
[SPEAKER_10]: They said, hey, I'm getting a lot of death threats from Trump people and they said, yeah, that seems like a U-problem.
[SPEAKER_10]: But that was a fun.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was a fun time.
[SPEAKER_10]: Again, you know, it's been a couple of years.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, but that's that's not a great story, man.
[SPEAKER_08]: That means you're doing the Lord's work.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, that's there's not a lot of emotional satisfaction you feel from knowing that you've
[SPEAKER_08]: told the truth and awful folks hate you for it.
[SPEAKER_08]: The awful folks are trying to.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's nice.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, people like racist who want to hurt you, racist.
[SPEAKER_08]: Kind of a compliment.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, like, I, well, the night.
[SPEAKER_10]: And since I'm not going to act with a lot of my family, it's actually hard to get that kind of a hard day.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I, I need that unconditional criticism from somebody.
[SPEAKER_08]: And, and I need that passiver.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, look, the night Trump was elected in twenty sixteen.
[SPEAKER_08]: I had agreed to do good morning Britain with Pierce Morgan and I was on the air all night to five a.m.
[SPEAKER_08]: I agreed before I knew I I vastly over-resumated the number of conservative Christians who'd read the New Testament and and and and culture.
[SPEAKER_08]: I just had the best night of her life in
[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, the one she was with Lindsey Graham.
[SPEAKER_10]: No, that's a different one.
[SPEAKER_08]: And Cole, so Ann, Cole, there was at the best night of her life, so she was filled with hatred.
[SPEAKER_08]: And she kept attacking me on the air.
[SPEAKER_08]: You lost.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm not a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: Now you lost.
[SPEAKER_08]: You lost.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, no, lady.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm a white male.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm heterosexual.
[SPEAKER_08]: I will be okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's unfortunate.
[SPEAKER_08]: I had a really good year.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm actually in the tax bracket.
[SPEAKER_08]: Donald Trump's plan favors.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_08]: You lost.
[SPEAKER_08]: Finally, I was like, lady, I'm a comedian.
[SPEAKER_08]: What's wrong with you?
[SPEAKER_08]: I would have settled for Hillary Clinton.
[SPEAKER_08]: I could have worked comedically with Bill Clinton his first lady.
[SPEAKER_08]: I could have pulled something out of that.
[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't need this.
[SPEAKER_08]: This this wonka golden ticket of material of Trump.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then I realized.
[SPEAKER_08]: What am I doing?
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm being hated on live TV by Ann Colter.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's like Jimmy Hendrix playing a solo just for you.
[SPEAKER_08]: No take pride when horrible people try to hurt you because look at the look at the good people the horrible people have killed.
[SPEAKER_08]: They don't kill the right wingers.
[SPEAKER_08]: They kill Jesus.
[SPEAKER_08]: They kill Gandhi.
[SPEAKER_08]: They kill Martin Luther King.
[SPEAKER_08]: They killed John Lenin R. F. K. Senior.
[SPEAKER_08]: They they kill medgorevers and war sadat it's a grubin it's always the guy of any religion or woman via the lead anyone of any religion who's trying to change things for others That's who gets bumped off so Tom remember and I'm sorry they hated you man to be proud of that hate remember when the Kennedy Kurdish used to mean something
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, let me tell you.
[SPEAKER_08]: It means more than anything now because our FK Jr.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't say this lightly, but I mean, you think about that Kennedy curse.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then this guy, he is chap a quidic in human form.
[SPEAKER_08]: All right.
[SPEAKER_08]: He is human chap a quidic for the Kennedy's an airborne debuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say, since I'm one of a few people who has worked on both the left and the right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was always interesting that when I would talk to the people who, you know, read at Ingrams at Laura Ingrams who were around that or who were at EWTN and they were always shocked.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I told them I said, if you talk, if I have you talk to any producer or any host who is on any left-lating radio show and has been over the last twenty years,
[SPEAKER_02]: every single one of us has received multiple legitimate death threats.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they would be like, no, and this was, this was, remember this is back in twenty fifteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is before Trump won and they were just like, no, I can't believe you got your exaggerating like all your liberals do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, no, I said, this is actually true.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, and if this monster wins, I said, you guys are going to find out what that's like.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they were like no no no and I said no he he will push many of the people who are on the left pass the point where they've been holding their tongue and they will call you and they will threaten you and they will do these things and it will and it will scare you and they were like no no no no and I I have in the intervening years since there's at least two of them that I've run into and they were like oh my god you were right
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, yeah, I said, I was on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, hang on, but when I told them, as I said, the thing is, is that what you forgot about this is that I said, this has been going on for twenty years on our side.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have been sending people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your people have been sending people to hate on us for that twenty years.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to make sure that you live with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't like that feeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, well, good, because you shouldn't like hating on people that much.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, but for some people, I mean, it makes him feel alive.
[SPEAKER_08]: And again, it's why, you know, being a liberal sucks in so many regards, because you got to be the good guy.
[SPEAKER_08]: And my whole point in my book is that we can't hate these people.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, when we're talking about Christian nationalist, like, we can feel sorry for him, though.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, I have to do that either.
[SPEAKER_08]: But we can't hate him because because hate makes you stupid.
[SPEAKER_08]: And you see this all the time on social media, we see smart liberal people lose their goddamn minds because they're tweeting when they're angry and defensive and in fight or flight.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it's like hate makes us all stupid.
[SPEAKER_08]: I have been painfully forced to learn this many, many times.
[SPEAKER_08]: And we can't hate these people.
[SPEAKER_08]: In many cases, they're not nationalists.
[SPEAKER_08]: There are relatives.
[SPEAKER_08]: There are co-workers.
[SPEAKER_08]: They're that guy from high school.
[SPEAKER_08]: We're still inexplicably friends with on Facebook.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like they're, you know, we can't hate them, but we have to beat them.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so I wrote this book just to take away their religious camouflage because if you're a Trump Republican and you claim to be Christian, you don't follow Jesus.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, like I invite them to call my show every night, give me one teaching
[SPEAKER_08]: And you'll find that how biblically illiterate they are.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I'm not saying you got to believe this.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm saying, let's take away their camouflage.
[SPEAKER_08]: You don't need to believe in the Bible to take it back from these hypocrites because they are using it and look at the CDC last week.
[SPEAKER_08]: These Christian nationalists are going to kill people.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to show to Trump supporters who call themselves Christians are murdering people this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Georgia is a fantastic example and especially an example of Democrats who they are look the two senators that are in Georgia are two of the most religious guys and yet they are calm and smooth and they deeply care that we we were talking about this year the the awesome investigation
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, you can you can mention it because it because we didn't stick it in.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, that's right though we didn't today and I think it's important because Awesome is saying look we need to have Well, he's he's saying we just need to have them come in for it hearing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think we need to have them come in for like a Nuremberg trial, but I think here and will be the good first to have who come in
[SPEAKER_10]: It's talking about people who are doing their part to drag net homeless people or immigrants off the streets and saying, look, there are going to be repercussions.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's going to be consequences for people who have decided to follow orders at a time when there is no legitimate reason to do so.
[SPEAKER_10]: The ice monsters, the FBI people.
[SPEAKER_08]: By the way, that's how he's going to get re-elected.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's how he's going to get re-elected.
[SPEAKER_02]: but he's also he's he's he's in such an ethical way he's I'm like God I love the fact and he is he's taking I can't say that he's taking a page for it because this has been the way that awesome has been the whole time it's it is the way that war knock is too I am glad to see somebody like Newsom because Newsom gets press because he's in California
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm glad to see him, someone taking a page from them, they are assertive.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't always have to be aggressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, Newsom style right now is a little bit aggressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: But at least be assertive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Say, you're not aggressive, man.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not aggressive.
[SPEAKER_08]: He's posting names.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he's being, but he's being assertive.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's sticking in.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, but that's what they do, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love to see that because they don't give empty calories to those fake Christians.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't give any, it's not empty calories, though, because what it says to everybody else, especially to so many of the Democrats and independence, and especially some of the former Trumpers who are not Trumpers now and who are maybe still registered as Republicans, it says to them, you don't have to be afraid.
[SPEAKER_02]: you can be a good person.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can stand up for what's good.
[SPEAKER_10]: And what about a Velociraptor tells me not to be affected.
[SPEAKER_10]: In fact, one of the scarier monsters in that movie, okay?
[SPEAKER_10]: Michael Crichton to the great job.
[SPEAKER_10]: John Williams scored it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it was quite scary.
[SPEAKER_10]: Steven Spielberg, one of his finest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and you say, Newsom writing the Velociraptor is funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I, I want Democrats to have that mode of communication to not be as
[SPEAKER_10]: turn the right to die on the grenade and speak at the convention as far as I'm getting.
[SPEAKER_10]: Until he fixes his heart, until he fixes his heart on trans people, until he apologizes and rectifies what he's doing, what he's doing on homeless people might make sense in a nimbee state like California.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's still evil and it still does not wash for the rest of the country.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not saying that he cannot do this.
[SPEAKER_10]: And Democrats cannot fix one bully by electing another.
[SPEAKER_10]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not, but I don't like everything that he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm saying is that his mom do, you love him so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, his model for communication right now is a, it's a different flavor, but it is similar in the sense of being assertive and standing up like awesome, like war not, like Pritzker, like so many of the women, oh my God, you know, Jasmine Crocket, it is standing up and it gives other people courage to do the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that, to me, is so important because that's what we need to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: We need to try to remember when I looked at the, that decal of Calvin peeing on a Chevrolet.
[SPEAKER_10]: I gave my courage.
[SPEAKER_10]: Me courage to also be on a Chevrolet.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it does if, if you, if you give as good as you get, that negates there being able to do it, and then they have to find something else to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they got nothing on their side.
[SPEAKER_02]: They got nothing on their side, but Calvin memes, peeing on Democratic icons.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all they got on their side.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the best that they can do on their side.
[SPEAKER_08]: That sounds pretty compelling.
[SPEAKER_10]: Judd's actually like, that's the most I all I need.
[SPEAKER_10]: Who does Calvin be on?
[SPEAKER_10]: That's what I'll vote against.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, I really come on over to it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Newsom's side on all of this because it's not going to get better on the messaging side.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, on the messaging side, and again, all he's doing, I mean, look, he's at least in the right track, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: People are responding to it.
[SPEAKER_08]: He's not infuriating people like others, but Kamala Harris never made a speech about how important it is to look out for transgender people.
[SPEAKER_08]: Kamala Harris never did a special speech about how come on now, are we going to be good people or not?
[SPEAKER_08]: Are we going to look out for the least of these?
[SPEAKER_08]: She never presented any of the logical arguments.
[SPEAKER_08]: for why it is strong and manly for a society to protect the most vulnerable.
[SPEAKER_08]: She never did any of that and they still lied and smeared about her as running on men and dresses.
[SPEAKER_08]: So Gavin Newsom is going to make a very unpopular and calculating choice that he's going to be cold to one minority to keep
[SPEAKER_08]: these guys out that he's going to be as cold as possible to trans people.
[SPEAKER_08]: So he won't get tired with that rush and folks who hate trans people will vote for him for his other liberal ideas.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know, but I think he could give you a real contribution by showing why it's manly to look out for people who are weaker than you.
[SPEAKER_08]: But I think he's making a real choice that it'd be worse for trans people if there was a look, Bill Clinton signed Doma and I was against it.
[SPEAKER_08]: But I was like, I'd rather have built Clinton with Doma than Bob Dolan, ninety six, because that's worse for the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't talk about a little bit more here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, we are at the end of the night, but we do have to do the after hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to clean up a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll talk with you on a little bit about on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look tomorrow night, we have Karen and Anita from True Blue politics in.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Jared and I will be here with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just go with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll have you back.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have you back.
[SPEAKER_02]: After all, this is the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: We like brilliant people here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we like you here as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go home, get some sleep, do your work, and then come back tomorrow and see us right here at the politics bar.