[SPEAKER_02]: Episode two oh three.
[SPEAKER_02]: Today we recap the brewer series and preview the upcoming series versus Chicago Cubs.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're listening to the Bucco Banner podcast brought to you by the Just Baseball Media Network.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to another episode of BuccoBanner and I have nothing else to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what this whole series was just a big old piece of poop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I could invest in a time traveling machine when it came down to Bencherington versus Mad Arnold.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I could maybe reverse that decision somehow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the brewers have you been in Milwaukee?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me start there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have not been in Milwaukee.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Milwaukee is not bigger than Pittsburgh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Milwaukee is a pretty small market in terms of cities.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like Pittsburgh is a much more attractible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Destiny, uh, attractive, sort of attractible.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's attractible is a good word.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever I came and speak now, this team has me fucked up.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, Milwaukee's a much more, uh, Pittsburgh's a much more attractive destination, but they just figure it out every year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they develop.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do it better than they are becoming the new razor guardians.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are their track record over the last like five years is impeccable.
[SPEAKER_01]: I envy the Milwaukee Brewers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They spend about a hundred thirteen million on the payroll.
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine if the pirate spent a hundred thirteen million and that's twenty-third in major league baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the bare minimum.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this team would be would be easily around five hundred if not better if they spent a hundred thirteen million.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't ever get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let me, let me stop there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to spend a hundred and thirteen million wisely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can spend bad money, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like spending eight million on Alex for do this off season would have been a bad investment.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they could have, there's a lot of room to spend here and, and that's pretty obvious, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's spending it in the right places and also making the right moves, which Ben Cherington is proven that he cannot do for the past six years.
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw Ronnie Simon today.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're looking to Simon's son, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: He said he got caught up to Milwaukee.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, hmm, brought worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the jokes write themselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's you want to for five great cool and I know I know but and I saw a lot of today and I was just like, oh, this is perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can talk about this, but now I don't want to as much as they last talked to five.
[SPEAKER_01]: I talked about Spencer Horowitz being a perfect leader.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, two hitter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you bring up a guy like Ronnie Simon who can lead off and can spark the top of a lineup with Spencer Horowitz complimenting him as a left-handed bat in the two hole.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that worked out well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know how long Ronnie Simon's going to be up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you hear yourself right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm just, I'm just talking out loud.
[SPEAKER_01]: I probably shouldn't have hit the record button for this, but whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the twelfth different lead off header.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've had all season.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're the closest is nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: The next team has had nine different lead off headers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've had twelfth throughout the entire unit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no cruise.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cobra in his.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he has had one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nick Huggie up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nicky G's been up there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cuggie's been up there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horowitz has been there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ronnie Simon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's been a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it goes on and on and on and on.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, did so.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when's he so ask so when's he get a little off?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did in spring training spring training.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a remember we could get on the floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm flirting with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like oh my god, what a pipe dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was got murders.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're on the bottom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have that line up right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll batten below one fifty.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, again, I know we talk about it every single week, but at what point do you just say, hey, like we, we have to move on, is it, are we at the point this year, where it's just we're going to get him as many of bats as possible to finally prove a point or I'm not sure the last couple years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, I'm at a loss because
[SPEAKER_01]: There truly is no method to their madness right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really understand, and I don't think many people can make sense of what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a ton of guys here, and I mentioned this before.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember talking about this in June, or maybe end a May.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's better to trade a guy too early than too late.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to wait till the trade deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we saw the big diverse trade.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was another trade that happened maybe in June.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could have traded Andrew Heaney for something early on, but instead they waited and now he's become a BP pitcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't want to be mean, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he hasn't been able to get many guys out and is not missing bats.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you waited way too long for a guy that's on an expiring contract and you're just going to let him sit on this team and not get anything for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the best option right now is a DFA him if anything so you can give opportunities young guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: But now you don't have the room to give opportunities young guys because this this team is stuck with a bunch of expiring contracts.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's quite frustrating and I think everyone's looking at this team kind of like the
[SPEAKER_01]: I used to laugh at the Colorado Rockies.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, the person will have it that bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you might have it that bad now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's in different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's it's just as bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Rockies have no hope.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think adding an element of hope, at least at the beginning of every year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you could have said at the beginning of this year, the Rockies are not going to do anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would have been a very accurate statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they don't have a pulse keens.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have a car Griffin in the system.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have the ceiling of only a cruise, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have multiple all start coming back and Brian Reynolds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you just like you had pieces, so you have that element of hope going into every single year.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, if they only just build around these guys and they get something together, but they never do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to continue not to do that unless something drastically changes drastically.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we saw some moves this week, we'll get into it, Darry Maretta was option to triple A per sax boy Billy.
[SPEAKER_02]: K-Sugar was reinstated after Maretta was sent back down.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, hey, let me stop you there, which is fine, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think Shugart has been at the very bottom of our list of worries this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Schubert has been a pleasant surprise.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a decent wave of a claim that of all the bad claims and acquisitions that Ben has made.
[SPEAKER_01]: But why do we have Johan Ramirez on this team anymore?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Darrymer and a deserves to be getting innings up here in the vaguely cub at club.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you need to be prioritizing guys that are going to be part of the twenty twenty sixteen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Johan Ramirez is not going to be part of the twenty twenty sixteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of guys that are not going to be part of the twenty twenty sixteen that they are prioritizing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Any Rodriguez head surgery on his owner nerve.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like nerve that sounds like I'm getting Christian Curtis vibes here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that is a totally different situation, but the nerves can be a complicated situation in the others.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a irregular Tommy John, like this is a nervous or a nerve problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, well, it's not even that, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you're kind of just hoping Raphael Flores works out.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you're really hoping.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you have all your eggs in one basket.
[SPEAKER_02]: You went from having at the beginning of the year, four catchers in Jason Delay, Henry Davis, Joey Bart, Andy Rodriguez, to effectively having zero when it comes to guys that can put the ball on play.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joey Bart has two homeruns on the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: What does Henry have five on the year?
[SPEAKER_02]: Andy hasn't played all year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously Jason Delay is not here, not that he would have hit in the first place.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now you're putting
[SPEAKER_02]: All of your eggs in the front line trade, they came back for David Benarren, Raphael Flores, somebody who has Edgling Perez, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Edgling Perez, who is in Bradenton.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, more fun, so it's not far off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't rage, don't rage, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, now it's like, okay, you want to talk about twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going in with a lot of options and also nothing at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're putting all your eggs in the Raphael Flores basket now to hope that he pans out what he's going to be going into his year.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be twenty five years old next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Still young tons of power, a lot of potential there, a lot of swing and miss contact rates aren't great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't love the metrics right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: and a lot of room left behind the plate.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he also plays first base.
[SPEAKER_02]: So then it's like, who are we having, Henry Davis can also catch behind him, but it's like, all right, I kind of feel comfortable going in with Spencer Horowitz at first place, first base.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel comfortable with Nick and Zalls.
[SPEAKER_02]: At second, you don't have a short sub, you don't have a third baseman, you don't have a left filter.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have kind of a center filter right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: kind of and you have a bat in right field, a bat in right field.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not calling him a right field or you have a bat in right field.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you have a thirty eight year old DH.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was actually, you know, you don't have a DH.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's gone too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you talk about improving this team for twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is no team for twenty twenty six right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's zero team.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to
[SPEAKER_02]: rebuild the team in twenty twenty six and you've done nothing to do that internally you've done nothing to do that and history shows us you're not going to do it in free agency cool super super cool yeah uh... well let's let's let's make it a more a little bit more positive here uh... mb pipelines new top one hundred uh... was just released after all the draft uh... signings went through
[SPEAKER_01]: Number one overall prospect in all Bayesville's Connor Griffin.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have that working for us, and I think he's going to get a taste about tuna very soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: In front of the show, he's been on here twice, and if he gets the tuna, we're definitely going to make another trip out there before that in the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number seven overall prospect is Bubba Chandler.
[SPEAKER_01]: Number twenty seven is Seth Hernandez, the first round pick this year out of California prep.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then number eighty seven is hundred barcos.
[SPEAKER_01]: So four guys on the top one hundred.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um three are pretty close.
[SPEAKER_01]: If not very close.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Seth Hernandez is a recent high score.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, that's we got some stuff to dream on at the lower levels, but that's what we say every year, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Every year.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's one bat there that you mentioned.
[SPEAKER_01]: Connor Griffin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know one bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, could he be the next greatest thing ever?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope so.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll happen, but boy, oh boy, let's talk about the series and before we do shout out to Total Sports Enterprises, go to tscop.com for all of your Pittsburgh sports memorabilia needs, pirates, penguins, Steelers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Scott, let's go to Monday, seven to one loss at the Brewers, Andrew Heaney, known batting practice pitcher per Scott Moore.
[SPEAKER_02]: four innings nine hits five earned two walks three k's gave up two bombs zero a is just under five you only at four whiffs on the day supplemented by chase sugar went three innings one earned how Nicholas one one inning one k joy bar hit his second home run of the year Brian Reynolds continues to hit at a double on the day they had three hits total off of cantona over four runners and scoring position three left on base and five strikeouts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was my favorite game.
[SPEAKER_02]: You wanna talk about this one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fourteen to nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bad guys, Milwaukee Brewers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul schemes, another tough outing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't wanna say tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if this is his worst outing man, like this is some guy's best outings.
[SPEAKER_01]: But for hitting six hits, four earn runs, two walks, four case.
[SPEAKER_01]: He gave up two homers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was yellowish and terrain, or frellic.
[SPEAKER_01]: South frellic lead off homer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Two thirteen year a got nine whiffs on ninety three pitches.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yo Han Ramirez one inning two hits four earned two walks two k's one homer.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy we're all showing over Dari Maradari now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Barack, you went one inning, three hits, three earned, one K, one Homer, and then Dennis Santana finishes that with one inning, one hit one K. I'm not going to read Jared Trio, I was pitching line because I think position players pitching is like one of the worst things about our present day game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring back Rowdy's Les at that point, just end the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't want to watch it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I KF one for three with a double.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's at two, seventy one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Horowitz, Nikki G and Reynolds, each collected singles, but four hits total over three with their scoring position.
[SPEAKER_01]: Five left on base eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Case.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then today Wednesday, they lost twelve to five at one point there within one run because Brian Reynolds had three hits on the day two home runs is thirteen on the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mitch Keller won four innings eight hits.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sixer and two walks, five K's, Carmen Maginski, two innings, two earned.
[SPEAKER_02]: Count Nicholas could not find the strike zone.
[SPEAKER_02]: just over and over and over again, two hits, four earned two walks, only once right out, his ERA is at seven, two right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Camp Sanders also cannot find the zone, two thirds of an inning, one hit, one walk, one K, his ERA is at nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Isaac Matson, doing what Isaac Matson does, one inning, no hits, one K, his ERA is at two, fifteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ronnie Simon Matson, reliable.
[SPEAKER_02]: over liable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ronnie Simon and his Pirates debut two for five with two runs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brian Reynolds, as I mentioned, had two bombs on the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Five RBIs, all of the offense for the Pirates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joy Bart went two for three with a double.
[SPEAKER_02]: Twelve hits total two for nine runners in scoring position.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ten left on base.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seven strikeouts.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that does it for the House of Horses.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is Milwaukee.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they say at that haunted hotel in Milwaukee do, because it just makes that would be the cherry on dive, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone stays there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the whole thing is haunted.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's whole franchise is haunted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, Adam, let's move on from Milwaukee, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's just give it right into Chicago preview the series.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get us kicked off here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, I don't know what the cup is doing today, but sixty seven fifty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're second in the in all central.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Milwaukee can thank Pittsburgh because they're running away with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't want to say running away, but they built a lead in the in all central as of right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think six or seven games.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cubs are second.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just take an hour and a half trip down from Milwaukee to Chicago into Rickleyville, the North Side of Chicago, and Friday we face Colin Ray.
[SPEAKER_01]: Colin Ray, we've faced twice already this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: The starting picture for the Pirates is TBD, but right now it's listed as Braxton Ashcraft, or he'd be in line for it, if he's now considered a starter or an opener.
[SPEAKER_01]: And might see a piggyback with him, and I don't know, Majinsky or one of the, one of the other guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this year, Colin Ray, nine and five of the four-on-nine ERA, one or sixteen and two-thirds innings pitched, pre-foregames, eighty-five case, and one-tune-nothing-whip.
[SPEAKER_01]: Five-one may first at Pittsburgh.
[SPEAKER_01]: He went six innings, four hits, two earned two walks to case, Brian Reynolds had a home run off of him, and then ate the three Chicago Cubs win.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, June fifteenth at, in rigley,
[SPEAKER_01]: He pitched another six innings, four hits, two are in run.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he can bank him for six innings, four hits, two are in runs against the pirates.
[SPEAKER_01]: One walk four k's in a three to two cubs when he'll throw the kitchen sink at you.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a four seam, but he throws forty three percent of the time, a split, and he throws twelve percent of this top.
[SPEAKER_01]: twelve percent of the time that he mixes in a slider sweeper curve, sinker cutter.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a durable command oriented back and starter brings a deep pitch pitch mix and veteran savvy to eat innings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't expect strike out dominance or flashy swings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Saturday, Lieutenant pitcher Shota, Emanaga, verse Mike Burrows, this year he's eight and five with a three nineteen ERA in ninety six and his pitch, seventeen games, seventy nine k's with a point nine seven whip.
[SPEAKER_02]: For suppliers this year back in April, five inning six hits, no earned one walk three k's and they nine to nothing Chicago win.
[SPEAKER_02]: The arsenal is a forcing split sweeper curve, sinker, pirate killer.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the more refined pictures to transition from the NPB to major baseball, true control artists who relies on a pitch mix and tempo rather than pure firepower.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's familiar with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excellent picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: sophomore year has not disappointed.
[SPEAKER_02]: That brings us to Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the parts have ever done well against shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like every time I watch them phase in, it's a shutout.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, Sunday, hobby or a sod is going for the cubs.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you just pitched his first game last week of the Twin Point Five season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be facing Andrew Heaney.
[SPEAKER_01]: Owen won with a nine year A, four innings, one game started two k's in a two, two, five whip.
[SPEAKER_01]: So small sample size, but he throws the kitchen sink as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sanker, cutter, sweeper, forcing, change slider curve.
[SPEAKER_01]: He really gets, he gets marks for his fastball up in his own.
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets rising velocity, plus fastball characteristics, just flashes of being more of a back more of a back end starter.
[SPEAKER_01]: if command continues to improve.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a guy that I hit really good in the point twenty four and he just debuted for the twenty twenty five season recently.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think these are all none of these guys are overpowering.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're more control artists and.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, should be interesting to see the pirates face off against these guys and regularly.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting to see them face off against anyone nowadays, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, interesting to say at least.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was an episode quite literally.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was an episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: And L Central Week, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had the reds.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got the brewers.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got the cubs.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're coming home against the blue chase.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're facing a bunch of hot teams right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to be back to the ballpark next week against the blue chase.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, until then, we got to take care of business at Wrigley.
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