[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the Trade Deadline Edition with your bastards of Boston baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am your not so cheery host right now, Charlie Smith.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can find me a Twitter slash X at Smith Under Score MLB.
[SPEAKER_02]: My friends joining me on this Titanic moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy Shelling, JTShell, Twenty, Chris Feliccio saved by Grace Noe and Terry Kushman Jr.
[SPEAKER_02]: at Cushman MLB.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am lost for words.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know where to start.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who wants to go first.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the way that Jeremy you go, this will be fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not upset.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys listen last night, I predicted this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not change my expectation at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not going to be upset.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I agree with it?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been on this podcast at least two, three times a week, you know, and in the last two, three weeks, I've been saying, and there's been cues out there, Brazil saying it's not efficient at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been dropping clues.
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, he never got the OK from John Henry.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all predicted they, I thought they would make more volume moves to have which two moves.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's holes in this roster.
[SPEAKER_00]: There, there's still the holes back up catcher all the long started to hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: We basically have Garrett crochet and throw a bunch of stuff up against the wall if we do make the playoffs in a playoff series.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not upset because I never changed my expectation.
[SPEAKER_00]: All the writing was on the wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've already gone through this last year with Brazil.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Brazil's fault because he wasn't given the OK.
[SPEAKER_00]: So John Henry remains a giant piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that will never change until he either decides he wants to win or he sells the goddamn team.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I'm at.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the second year in a row that we picked from the Dodgers dumpster.
[SPEAKER_01]: We went and we got their worst guy because they had much better guys coming back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where the, that's kind of where the bar was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now there was some reports that we were in on Joe Ryan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there were conversations in the closing minutes of the deadline, but according to mass lies, Chris Katello
[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't even close.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, we're at the point now where there shouldn't be any expectations that Breslo is ever going to be able to solve problems during the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be able to adequately address needs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what he's going to do this winter.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot of money coming off the books, a lot of players that are either going to be free agents, have opt out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really trust him to, again, adequately address what we need and make us a championship contender.
[SPEAKER_01]: What we saw today was an organization just wave the white flag and say, okay, fine, we're just not going to compete for the championship this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: If not this year, when is it supposed to be?
[SPEAKER_01]: Breslow just doesn't know how to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's the second straight executive hand picked by Sam Kennedy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you couldn't send any better to Terry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm at a loss.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, my relationship with the red socks at this point is so toxic.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I'm a battered housewife at this point that just keeps coming back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a little bit of faith, there's gonna be change and it never happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we were primed.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're never gonna be more primed than we were this year with where we're at coming into the deadline.
[SPEAKER_03]: The assets we had to trade, the farm system looking like it did with the healthy mix at the MLB level and then in the minors.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we had Christian Campbell.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had, you have the password, you have Blaze Jordan, you had dibs, you had all these assets.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you could even throw in
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know they're both hurt, but I mean, the way some of these teams were making trades, they're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been someone dumb enough to take them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we get rid of Blaze Jordan and dibs for nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've been talking about it for weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm scared to death, Bragman's not coming back.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I get to Blaze Jordan.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the potential eligibility for rule five, but to get rid of him for absolutely nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then dibs, the only prospect he was at least somewhat interesting in the Devers trade.
[SPEAKER_03]: taking the money aside that we're going to save.
[SPEAKER_03]: Extremely disappointed and frustrated and I mean, I'm probably going to guess I'm the only one here that's dumb enough to be a seasoned ticket holder of this damn team.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm at the point now next year, I'll probably renew just to go up there and burn the tickets in front of the family because honestly, I'm a moron and honestly, screw the red socks at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't even lose a game, geez.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's crazy is that half the group can't be a season ticket holder because we're not in the state.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, credit to you for either of my chart, I drive four and a half hours like a moron.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's basically what you're doing is you're donating.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, they should thank their donors.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's basically what's happening right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: People are just donating up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stay true to myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: off the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a different person that I am on the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: I four f bombs as I hit the go button.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was it was dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been dark because.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we've been talking about like just get one fill the whole that you had when you lost.
[SPEAKER_02]: Devers shouldn't be that hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're probably going to have to overpay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I learned a lot about this year, and I learned a lot about the front office.
[SPEAKER_02]: I learned a lot about breast low.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sam Kennedy is just ban beyond ice, the golden edition.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just absolute trash.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anyone likes the Boston Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_02]: Players can't wait to leave.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one wants to extend.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if they do, they're gone anyways.
[SPEAKER_02]: It becomes toxic, whether it's either them or something else within the organization.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one likes the red socks.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one wants to trade with the red socks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so abundantly clear when we saw some of the moves that took place yesterday and the day before.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're giving up whatever prospects.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're fourteenth and sixteenth prospect.
[SPEAKER_02]: We couldn't have given something better to get, get something.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the additions and granted before we slam them because it's gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Steven Mats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a reliever.
[SPEAKER_02]: He could pitch long innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the left-handed version of Garrett Whitlock.
[SPEAKER_02]: His ERA is better this year because he's not thrown crazy innings like he had when he was a starter, not blown away by that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Dustin May, we gave away pieces that some of us liked and really wanted more excited for.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the devil's move, if, you know, Hicks
[SPEAKER_02]: gets sent off or packing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Slowly, but surely, you're going to have the moody bets to point out trade.
[SPEAKER_02]: You traded a player away, and the assets you got, you left immediately.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're already gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've already lost one of the four, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: We got Kyle Hicks, Tibs was another one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another, wasn't another Bayo of part of that deal, and then there is Harrison.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where Harrison's going to fit right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just feel like it's another matter of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we have absolutely had our entire franchise in future doomed because of dumb trades.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dumb trades.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether it had been deran or will you or Brayu, one of those two, I told myself, one of those two is going.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them has to go at this point because that's gonna be the direction this team needs to go and if we're gonna get in the lead starter because we decide to
[SPEAKER_02]: piss away, Chris Sale, for a player that's now sitting in the minors.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just, it's offensive and insulting to fans right now that have been loyal supporters of this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the same crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, same shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, it's really hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: So two things on this, the Joe Ryan sweepstakes,
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not buying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to hear the package from the twins, not from the Red Sox twins.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us what they offered.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it you sheet in the bullpen catcher?
[SPEAKER_00]: because you can't just offer a trade to say that they were interested, which is what they do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why teams don't like dealing with Brazil is not because they don't like them probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that when he calls, it's like, oh, here's Craig again.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to offer us Cassus Yoshida and some other non-sensical prospect for Joe Ryan.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why would I want to deal with someone that doesn't respect me enough to make a competitive offer?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't, Craig Breslow either by his own fruition or he's trying to be so frugal or Henry's not allowing him to use certain players and money.
[SPEAKER_00]: His trade proposals are like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Craig, call me when you want me to be serious.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they report that they've been interested, but yet the package being offered is going to be laughed at by any team in a similarly situated, you know, with their assets.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just, I don't buy any of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: My perspective at this deadline was completely different.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they made a competitive offer for Joe Ryan.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they pushed on it as they approached the deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just all smoking mirrors.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all trying to have the perception to the fans that we're trying when I, in my heart of hearts, know they're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, now as it were, the big league team is going to be competitive.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fun to watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's probably going to be good enough to grab one of the last two wild card slots.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they had an opportunity to push the chips in the middle and try to be competitive.
[SPEAKER_00]: You add a frontline starting pitcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can win a round.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe two.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they punted on trying to make a run.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the message at the end of the year, if we get in, well, hey, guys, we're making progress.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got into the playoffs this year, because they chose not to go all in.
[SPEAKER_01]: My moment of doom came kind of late, although my expectations were low, just like Jeremy's were.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, before I say this, let me just say,
[SPEAKER_01]: at about four thirty i arrived at a park that i like to walk and it's a mile and a half is the loop and i plan to do at least two or three laps that would take me through the six p.m.
[SPEAKER_01]: deadline so i was a perfect place to just kind of just walk rather than just sit around and stare at my screen
[SPEAKER_01]: And the deadline was at what six o'clock.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it must have been a little after five p.m.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were getting reports that the red socks and the Rangers were in on Merrill Kelly, who's having a fantastic here.
[SPEAKER_01]: ERA just over three.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been realistic about Joe Ryan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think we would get him and cough up the package if we did outstanding, but I just didn't think it would happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I looked at a Merrill Kelly type guy as someone that was a little bit more realistic and that could definitely hold down a spot in that rotation behind crochet and bayo and in Gilito.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's as everyone's pointed out on all the platforms.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has pitched in the world series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got playoff experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a veteran pitcher and I don't I haven't looked at what the Rangers gave up, but it couldn't have been a ton.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we lost.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as that happened, I'm like, okay, it's probably Charlie Morton.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've said all along, I've said it's probably gonna be somebody not on our radar.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was hoping the bar wouldn't be on the floor when, you know, when that picture emerged.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it ended up being Dustin May, who is not on my radar.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that dude,
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what this is his first year back from Tommy John, his fastball velocity is down four or five miles an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: His command is not great.
[SPEAKER_01]: ironically his last start was against us and I say ironically because last year at the trade deadline when we got James Paxon his last start was against the Boston Red Sox and then they made their next start for Boston so it's it's a terrible it's a terrible move you know we took we literally traded for their worst picture like I said and if you pull up their save on charts
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to get into all of them, but you want the chart to be more red than blue.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's more red, that means you're in the higher percentiles in terms of MLB averages for starting pitchers.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the more red, the better, the more blue, the worse you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Richard Fitz, save on chart.
[SPEAKER_01]: much more red than Dustin Mace.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not not great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just a couple of the categories.
[SPEAKER_01]: People chase more on fits and his fastball velocity is a lot better and he's not even a fastball pitcher.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the that's the bad news and and fits doesn't walk as many people.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: Not not a good not a good trade and I don't know if he's going to make the start he could conceivably start tomorrow night in game one of the Houston series.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be normal rest for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does have to fly across countries, so maybe they won't do it, but if it's not him, it's going to be a Cooper Chris well type guy, but
[SPEAKER_01]: terrible trade and then one more thing before I pass it back to you guys couple of quotes from brezlo he said we approached let me just get it I tweeted it all right I got it right here he said we were as aggressive as we could possibly be that's a lie
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe he says that.
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't Sam Kennedy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You said this is Breslo.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's lazy and a lie and just.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing because I hope you're right, Jeremy as far as us actually getting a spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's where I pause on that at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got
[SPEAKER_03]: The Yankees, the Blue Jays, the Red Sox, the Astros, the Mariners, and the Rangers competing for five of the six spots, right, that are potentially out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And out of all those teams, there's only one that didn't even make an attempt to significantly approve going for the rest of the season, the Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've also been known to kind of fumble away opportunities at taking advantage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the other day, we lost in that bizarre game against the twins when everyone else lost.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's been many games this season where we could have done that and jump over someone or tie them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we lose that game.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, some of these teams got significantly better.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners significantly better.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Astros reuniting with Carlos Correa.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably going to go off now at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can even believe they got him back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you're right, but I think it's fair to question, are we going to be ringing around the rosy and you know, or playing musical chairs and where the one stand there without a chair at the end of the season?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's certainly possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: The issue with me, honestly, though, if you look at it, you're looking at all these trades that are getting done.
[SPEAKER_02]: We made two trades, one for a starter, LOL, and one for a reliever who used to be a starter who couldn't start and is now a reliever.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's had blips and moments of greatness, but that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Regarding Dustin May, I live in LA.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I watch a lot of Red Sox games.
[SPEAKER_02]: I watch a lot of Dodgers games.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really it, you know, those are the only two teams I really give a crap about now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've seen Dustin may pitch and when Dustin may pitch against us, he showed what complete dominance and absolute exposure look like in a matter of an hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: He struck out five of six batters in a two-in-ing window against the Red Sox where he was just mowing everyone down.
[SPEAKER_02]: He mowed down a fragment.
[SPEAKER_02]: He mowed down story and he mowed down.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember it wasn't that inning.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not looking at it, but I remember and I'm like, holy crap, like he could run off a ten spot.
[SPEAKER_02]: He might strike out ten and row if he keeps up like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Problem is Dustin May throws twenty pitches in inning.
[SPEAKER_02]: So at eighty five to a hundred, he might be through five innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know if you're getting jackal or hide with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He throws ninety six, ninety seven at times, but there's no control.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no accuracy with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like Charlie Sheen from Major League.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might get hit in the dome and the ball starts off, you know, twenty eight inches in the middle and comes and gets you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's frustrating.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the orange-haired version of Jordan Hicks.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can throw really hard, but the accuracy is a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember I wanted Dustin May or Gavin Lux as a part of the Mookie Bets trade.
[SPEAKER_02]: Years have gone by and now I'm like, okay, well, we got Dustin May.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not moving the needle for this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think to be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're seeing other players that are getting moved.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Yankees made like five or six trades, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: They got two different, didn't they get both deval and bednark from Pittsburgh's Closer and they got the Giants Closer?
[SPEAKER_02]: And the prospects that they gave up, I don't know, I don't know half of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know any of those names.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you need to tell me that they got a more successful or a more, they were able to provide a more rich
[SPEAKER_02]: offer for two closers and we got Steven Mats and Dustin May.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let that sink in folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a really hard time.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's absolutely pathetic and then let me put this in context for you in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also the moves they didn't make.
[SPEAKER_00]: So number one,
[SPEAKER_00]: Connor Wong's your backup catcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know he started hitting the ball a little bit the last week, but unless there's some complete turnaround, you have a sub-par defensive backup catcher that's got to play games.
[SPEAKER_00]: That has simply not hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Toro's your everyday first basement, pletuning with Roman Gonzalez.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, those are those especially at first base.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a major hole.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a major hole.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think Matt's like slots everyone down.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the way the bullpen's been rolling, that's who we're going to see in the seventh eighth and ninth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm right with Chapman, but slate is not close.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the team.
[SPEAKER_00]: The team is essentially the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: The same team, the same mistakes, the same, you know, it's all there's nothing's going to change.
[SPEAKER_00]: not only the ads in cuts sequential to me, other than the picture of my God's name already from the Dodgers, he's going to be available to pitch assuming health because we've had some real issues with fits, and there's really no hunter, dobbins is down, so you need a body, so he fills that need.
[SPEAKER_00]: But other than that, if another guy goes down, you still have the same issue, and now you're
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost solidified in my mind that it's going to be garracrochet, Bayo and Gileeto, where you're three going into the postseason if you get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Chris, good point, there's, I mean, equal parts of chain.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they personally do get in, but I wouldn't, I'm not going to be sitting here surprised if they don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like they didn't address any of the, any of the weaknesses really.
[SPEAKER_00]: They added a surplus arm and a surplus arm.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really all they did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, another thing that's frustrating
[SPEAKER_03]: is that there are so many teams that made moves this deadline that really basically have no shot at winning a world series on paper, that they're covered is absolutely barren when it comes to prospects.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they treated their own assets for the next ten years to get guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the socks have a plethora of options in the cupboard and treated none with the exception of two
[SPEAKER_02]: better than and then get equal value back they didn't even improve the roster for one of them you had for five minutes when you literally just received just out of the plane and got right back on yeah six weeks six weeks to it's very so freaking frustrating you hear here's the other thing to like
[SPEAKER_02]: You're looking at players that got, like Mariners for example, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Chris, I think you said Mariners got better.
[SPEAKER_02]: They went out, they got Nailer, and they got the party started way before everybody else, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you got Nailer, and then later on, you got his teammate.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got your new swars.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you got two of the bats from that team that is just in full-out fire sale mode.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going nowhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I'm Zach Gailin, I'm out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm out of there too, because this team is just dumpster fire city.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seattle probably, I'm going to say Seattle probably had one of the better.
[SPEAKER_02]: trade deadlines period.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Houston takes a step up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you get Carlos Korea back with that BS left field wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the biggest Joe can baseball outside of right field at Yankee Stadium.
[SPEAKER_02]: Crap just crap situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Minnesota twins and I forget who it was that shared this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So forgive me.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're also paying thirty three million dollars of the remaining one hundred two one hundred and three million left on his contract.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're so in debt, the whole team just got basically traded.
[SPEAKER_02]: Griffin Jackson, who's one of the relievers I was really excited for, now gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he went to Tampa Bay for Taj Bradley.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was that trade.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would have taken Taj Bradley.
[SPEAKER_02]: What was the package in total to get Taj Bradley?
[SPEAKER_02]: You gave up Griffin Jackson and who else?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, at this point, if you're really not going to make any moves in any additions, this didn't tell us that you were serious.
[SPEAKER_02]: As it would have also said the same thing, if you had traded Jared Iran, who's on fire right now, or like a world's chairman, you know, if you trade out of one of those guys, you're not serious.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you have fans waiting until the thirty first like, I wonder who we're getting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder which player is going to join our rotation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the results happen and it's just like if you guys want to have a feeling like the feeling that I have right now outside of just sadness and just disappointment, if you guys want to watch a great video that'll crack you up, just watch the video on YouTube of all the drafted players that the New York Jets have taken in the first round and they've completely glossed over.
[SPEAKER_02]: All star, Hall of Fame caliber players, and it's like they're saying we want this player and they go and draft some bum.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of how I feel where I'm just like, I'm like begging, please get us a bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe you had to go so far as wasn't a realistic option.
[SPEAKER_02]: What would it have cost for Yondi Diaz?
[SPEAKER_02]: What was the package there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where were we in any of these other moves for the big names?
[SPEAKER_02]: You can say all you want, but I want the other GMs from other teams to say, yeah, I know they're saying it was uncomfortable, but I'm not sure who's uncomfortable because it wasn't with us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if that happens, then the book just got thrown at them.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys are lying to our faces and now, twenty-nine other teams are proving it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You never even contacted us.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't even try to make an offer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think he's like AJ Preller dumb, but, you know, offering Yoshida a causes and like a bunch of like broken pieces, I don't think would appeal to any team.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's a dumb GM out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Preller's dumb, but he's not that dumb, apparently.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, this is gonna be a really hard time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, honestly, I would not be surprised if, within the next month, we probably go like on a five or six, seven game losing streak.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's going to be ugly, like probably one or two blowouts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't think the team is happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the current roster that you have is thrilled about what you have.
[SPEAKER_00]: comments from Duran don't suggest that at least from his perspective.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's becoming a with better leadership at a tighter clubhouse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys are probably going to feel some relief.
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys like Toro probably won some guys in that bullpen that are going to feel relief and hopefully pitch without that fear that tomorrow they're gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's that possibility.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the way it's going to play out
[SPEAKER_00]: is they're going to continue to do they're going to still forget outs and they're going to miss cut off man and they're going to run into bad outs it's going to be the same team it's going to be fun to watch exciting baseball they're going to blow people out and then they're going to have a picture that comes out and gives up a touchdown in the first in the first inning
[SPEAKER_00]: I think where we're going to feel it is as we get towards September and other teams have better matchups and where it's other than Gary crochet, there's no other front line starter where you're going to say we're a piece or two short, which is the same thing we've been saying this whole month.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I think we're going to feel it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then if we do get in, we're definitely going to feel it because it's going to be ace and Garrett and their ace and then Bayo or Gileeto and then their ace number two.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be a mismatch that we can't unless there's a surprise start there.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to feel it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I still think it's going to be the same team.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is the same team.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think as we get towards the important games in September and hopefully October, we're going to be a peace short.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't fill the holes in the roster.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, we're going to feel it at some point.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've gone through the notable teams here and I've got all their notable acquisitions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with, I wrote the Rangers.
[SPEAKER_01]: There should be mariners.
[SPEAKER_01]: They got as we know, you're hanging out swore as Josh Nailer to high offensive, you know, performers to two guys that are going to majorly impact that line up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And perhaps they finally will have that deep postseason finally.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got a nice line up to go with that nice rotation that we salivate over every winter.
[SPEAKER_01]: the interesting thing is going to be what's the race for the AL West look like now we know that the Mariners and the Astros are going to make it just
[SPEAKER_01]: how will they make it?
[SPEAKER_01]: One's going to win the division.
[SPEAKER_01]: One'll be the wild card.
[SPEAKER_01]: Carlos Terrea is going back to Houston.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's fine for this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Charlie and I were actually going over his contract yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got like, let's see, he's guaranteed through twenty twenty eight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So three more seasons after this, but then he has like at least four option years, which probably won't be picked up at their team options.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like that pickup.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to play third base now for the Astros.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jeremy Payne who is the World Series MVP a few years ago will remain at shortstop.
[SPEAKER_01]: They also picked up Haseu Sanchez from the Marlins.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's only a two fifty hitter has decent pop.
[SPEAKER_01]: An on base around three hundred.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be interested to see if the the Astros can perhaps raise that ceiling on him a little bit, but they had a pretty good deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Rangers, as we know, got Merrill Kelly.
[SPEAKER_01]: They also bolstered their bullpen pretty good with Phil Mayton and Danny Coolum.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they made some significant upgrades.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then don't sleep on the Yankees here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was laughing at the Yankees and I know judges hurt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where they're at with him, but
[SPEAKER_01]: assuming he's back in relatively short order Ryan McMahon has a lot of upside his batting averages, you know, in the in the low two hundreds, but his on base is about a hundred points above.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be more of a platoon guy anyway, but he's a lefty that plays well at Yankee Stadium.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got
[SPEAKER_01]: Milo Doval, Giants, eighth or ninth inning guy, one of their high leverage guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jake Bird from the Rockies, that's kind of a, you know, flyer type thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: The real intriguing one to me, they got Jose Caballero from the Tampa Bay raise.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a middle in fielder.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's currently stolen thirty four bags and it feels like twenty of them were against the red sox uh... because he's automatically steals every time and it doesn't matter if it's longer in our via so i think the and he's got pretty dynamic and then we came out of it
[SPEAKER_01]: the Stephen Matts and Dustin May.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's embarrassing with all of those moves.
[SPEAKER_01]: These teams made.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just absolutely embarrassing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one more quote from Brazil.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can take it a couple of different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he said it takes two teams to tango in the other team has to like our players.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what that means.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know our farm isn't what it is because some of the guys have graduated, you know, Anthony Meyer.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if Campbell is still considered a prospect after that contract, but, you know, he's down in AAA right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do have some pretty nice pieces down there, but
[SPEAKER_01]: What I took from it the most, and I mentioned this in the war room, and I've mentioned it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me, on some recent shows, I don't think other front offices like the Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they view them as a likable organization.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Breslo is the guy you want to take.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every family has that one guy who can wheel and deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter what it is, whether it's baseball cards, whether it's random junk that he's selling on Facebook marketplace,
[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe he buys and sells cars, but that's not Brazil.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not the guy you take to the car dealership with you to get a sweet deal on a Chevy Camaro.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just doesn't get it done as an executive.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have the swagger of an Epstein or a Dom Browsky type guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he caves in negotiations.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he navigates that very good at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like I said in my opening take, there's no reason to believe he's ever going to be good at this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he can evaluate pitching and help the infrastructure and that's, that's his strong suit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny because he and Hymer opposites, Hym could find value in bats, you know, and with the offense, but he sucked at pitching.
[SPEAKER_01]: Breslo's the opposite.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's decent with pitching.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but not good when it comes to bats.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not giving him any credit for Bregman.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a core Kennedy move in, in Breslo, acquiesce.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, the platoons are working okay with Romi and Toro.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's another thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody tweeted at me, said, imagine sticking with Abraham Toro at first base.
[SPEAKER_01]: after the deadline.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if there's an opportunity to replace Brazil, I would do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's easier said than done.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can do it the way you've been doing it, fire them at the end of the season, and then cast a wide search only for there to be little interest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think if another executive, I don't know who that would be, maybe Derek Falveen, Minnesota, and now that they blew it up, we've had interest in him previously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is controversial Charlie's going to hate this one, but maybe Jeffrey Luneau, the guy who architected the Astros.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a smart baseball guy, but if anyone like that, you know, mentioned something to the to ownership of the front office saying, hey man, I can help you out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you guys haven't been getting it done.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's how it happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we got Dave Nambrowski.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I would try to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who wants this job?
[SPEAKER_02]: And actually coincidentally, Brad just words out of my mouth here and you say what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had to brow ski, you had chairing tin, bloom, then you got this guy, breastloat, who wants to come to Boston?
[SPEAKER_02]: Better yet, here's why it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, before you answer that, here you go, ready?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not only do you need to find a GM that wants to come to Boston, you have to find superstar talent to come to Boston.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you're thinking of people that, you know, architects of teams to come to Boston and recreate some magic, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's going to say, yeah, sure, I'll take the one o'clock Delta flight into Logan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I totally would love to see my time there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Knowing full well that the owners don't invest, they get rid of their superstars.
[SPEAKER_02]: People are upset.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's where toys go to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think the Boston Red Sox have slowly but surely become a borderline poverty franchise and it pains me to say that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have, and in the biggest sense of the poverty, it's been with credibility.
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have poverty level credibility, but here's why I think it could be different this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: The red socks have always had the leverage with dictating the terms.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to keep all our top executives, you're going to keep our manager, and that's the way it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Red Sox haven't backed off that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the next incoming executive has the leverage now saying, yeah, I've got a ton of credibility based on my past, but if I come to your organization, I'm going to make the changes I feel are necessary.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Red Sox are in a place where they can say, no, no, no, no, you're still keeping our guys and you're still keeping our manager.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to be able to dictate that this time around.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you're right, Terry, but I mean, I would have thought after Hein, we would have been in that same position, but I do agree now after Hein and Brazil in trying it both ways, but guys that have both seen success from the opposite side of the coin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I hope you're right that whoever it is is going to have some sort of leverage, it's just, you know, Jeremy's sentiments and which I kind of share is, I don't know if Henry's going to act with us,
[SPEAKER_03]: at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Fenway Sports Group going to show a little bit of dignity and, you know, let down the pride.
[SPEAKER_03]: And say, yeah, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to, we got to give in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have faith now at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, another thing we didn't mention to is the Blue Jays.
[SPEAKER_03]: Blue Jays literally took a flyer in all aspects for a chain beaver.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I get chain beavers coming back from an injury, but the needle ain't nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I would have given away nothing for chain beaver in comparison to what the hell we gave away for what we got.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Brazil's job is absolutely safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if John Henry was giving him a grade, he'd give him a very high grade.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just unloaded three hundred million dollar contract.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they have enough in this on the big league club to get into the playoffs and get around from John Henry's perspective, it's an asset.
[SPEAKER_00]: The asset was in the playoffs.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a season where all the games mattered all the way through September.
[SPEAKER_00]: He saved me a whole bunch of money.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't add any money at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm under the the second tax apron.
[SPEAKER_00]: Result is doing his job.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's following his marching orders.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's at any risk.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a great assistant Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He might be a world class assistant.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's carrying the tote bag for John Henry.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got his marching orders.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's following him, guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Terry, I don't disagree with your take if we had a real owner that cared.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not what we have.
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, all of the, and I know you guys are probably getting annoyed by it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But all of these takes, they all go back to the guy that has all the power.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when you say at the beginning of the year, you're not going over this amount of money.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you find out that Devers is not going to play first.
[SPEAKER_00]: And oh, my God, Devers is costing some problems here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But wait a minute, if we move him, we can say thirty million dollars a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know some of these early comments in the chat where we didn't spend any of the Devers money.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were never going to spend any of the Devers money's guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Never going to happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: John Henry looked at it as pure sales.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't, I don't think you're being unreasonable, Jeremy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, if you go back to spring training, if you go back to spring training, I don't think John Henry was sitting in the owner's box down at Fort Myers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm assuming there's an owner's box there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think he was like, man, if I could just get out of this diverse contract, that would be awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, fast forward, you know, a month and a half into the season, he got on an airplane.
[SPEAKER_01]: and flew to Kansas City.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something he has not done.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has not made a headline with his own name, with his own actions in several years.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he got on an airplane and he tried to fix the malfunction that was going on between Brazil
[SPEAKER_01]: in the face of the organization.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he made a good effort and Devers was still here for about another month before he finally got traded.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so what I'm getting at here is I don't think he appreciated the controversy and I don't think he appreciated how it was handled by all parties.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know that I
[SPEAKER_01]: Having been the owner through the abstine era through the Dombrowski era, the Ben Sherington era, I think he's smart enough to look at Craig Reslow and thank man.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's making us look like an ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: I disagree on your first part of the take, Terry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he went into the season either, thinking let's clear this money.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the minute Devers became an issue, he went to Kansas City confirmed it was an issue and said, in some respects, I think Devers being a malcontent was kind of convenient for John Henry.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now he can get behind it and say, now let's move this money.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Brazil's, in my opinion, I'm not saying I'm right, but in my opinion, I do feel strongly about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Breslow is carrying the waterpale for John Henry's desires, his wants and desires to save money, be under the luxury tax.
[SPEAKER_00]: Simultaneously, once people in the building, he obviously wants to sell out Fenway and he's doing that because we're competitive.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're seven or eight games over five hundred.
[SPEAKER_00]: We hold a wild card spot, you know, and he thinks he can continue to do that through August and September to potentially make a playoff thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the message at the end of the year, we already know what it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, we're we're ascending.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here we are now we're in the place.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go next year and then people are going to believe it and buy in and the same crap's going to happen all over again.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it all goes back.
[SPEAKER_00]: To that, John Henry has two mouthpieces.
[SPEAKER_00]: One is not really a mouthpiece, but Brazil moves the players in the assets of this particular portfolio asset.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Sam Kennedy's is mouthpiece because John Henry isn't going to speak to anybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: And all Sam Kennedy does is lie.
[SPEAKER_00]: That should tell you that, in my opinion, Henry is getting what he wants at a breast loan.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm getting the most disappointed with in the front office or with the organization.
[SPEAKER_03]: This isn't a sound like a wild take.
[SPEAKER_03]: Theo Epstein, why the hell?
[SPEAKER_03]: You are gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're a legend.
[SPEAKER_03]: You created the Red Sox that we wanted and needed a winner.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was going to break the curse.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you came back this damn dumpster fire on your own accord.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you didn't in a fashion where now you gave us the hope that you might come here to salvage and save us.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you're now part of the side that's not, because he's more on the thinly sports group side.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the albatross of this whole damn franchise at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, my eight-year-old son, because he watched the documentary, probably shouldn't have led him with all the cursing, but he watched it on Netflix.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he knows that the UFC's backs, I told him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when he saw his French, he's like, well, Daddy, why isn't he trying to fix the red socks again?
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I get that's probably not the best take, but
[SPEAKER_03]: I started asking myself, yeah, why the hell did you come back and possibly tarnish your reputation and the outlook that we will have on you as fans for what?
[SPEAKER_03]: You could be anywhere making money.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could have ownership probably in any damn MLB club with the exception and maybe the Yankees, although who knows with his hungry as they are for money sometimes maybe they would.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the point is, I don't even know why why come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's another guy that could step in and kind of broker the outside deal to get somebody else in like he's the likable guy and he's the guy that that has all the credibility he's got more credibility than anybody in that front office so
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get why he's not really a presence, but I just, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't think Breslo is very well liked in that front office.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Sam Kennedy likes him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Breslow acquiesces a lot to what Alex Cora wants.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't sit here and say that Alex Cora doesn't like him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean when when David Hamilton gets the call up over Von Grissum, is that an Alex Cora thing or is that a Craig Breslow thing?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a Cora thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And watching Brezlo, I watch the whole press conference.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys got to see any of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's probably some clips on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked very uncomfortable the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just doesn't even look like he knows what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I don't have, I just, I think there's a decent shot he's gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: by Hooker by Crook.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you're right about Theo because he could very quickly in my book be deemed to sell out to come here and take money to do really do nothing that improve this franchise in the near future.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another thing too, before the press conference started,
[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching the the Nesson studio.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was Tom Karen, Loomer Looney, JP Ricardy, who's a Boston area guy that was the Blue J's GM for almost ten years.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't really do much with him there, but but he was on set and then they had raw Bradford in the mood was kind of somber and they were being kind of critical and this is John Henry's own network that he owns eighty percent of.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can't be thrilled that these guys, all of whom who have a ton of credibility over several decades now, they're speaking unfavorably about the performance of Henry's chief baseball officer.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's another thing that gives me a little bit of pause when talking about Freslow's future.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's only watching that Terry.
[SPEAKER_03]: if the checkbook number is going down.
[SPEAKER_03]: And as long as that number stays consistently going up or at least flat, he may not even see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me ask you a question because the red socks.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's drunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who lost more at this deadline?
[SPEAKER_02]: And who, who won, so who lost more than the Red Sox twins or nobody?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then as far as, oh, yeah, I mean, obviously Red Sox fans cross.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it was Red Sox or if it was the Red Sox or the twins.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then as far as the big winners, who won more than the Rangers did or the Mariners did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mason Miller, the superstar closer that was absolutely electric last year, he's gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: He finally left Oakland now is in San Diego.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really curious to see how that goes, but it had a crazy cost.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say this about the twins.
[SPEAKER_00]: I credit them for sticking their foot in the ground and having direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: They sell and they sold.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the thing that pisses me off about Brezlo and these two trade deadlines is we're kind of stuck in the middle.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not knowing which way to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have no direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to sell, do what the twins did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go get every prospect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, those guys aren't all going to make it.
[SPEAKER_00]: One and what six top prospects become a big league player.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go increase the chance that you're going to get a bunch of players.
[SPEAKER_00]: At least they have direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have no direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just acquiring, you know, keeping our assets.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're so afraid to trade it across back, which blows my mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have no direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it's just going to be the same thing, rinse and repeat.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they make the playoffs, they're going to sell us that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, guys, we made the playoffs, but we're going to go in next year.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to tell you the same things.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to act the same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have no direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: What sucks is, and we talked about this briefly before we came on the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: So credit Chris, I believe you're the one that said it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We lost out on trades for literally everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we didn't get one of the hiring closers.
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't get any of the premier bats.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got Dustin May, who I think is better than Paxton.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so pissed when Paxton joined, and I'm sorry for saying the word, but here we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Paxton, I knew it was just an injury away from career over.
[SPEAKER_02]: And sure enough, that happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he was so unvaluable that the Dodgers were like, no, we're good just de-faying him.
[SPEAKER_02]: But by, and the red socks as unwise, as they were, we're like, sure, let's give this another shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll totally be better this time around.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now we have, you know, Dustin May, I think, May's better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And who knows, if making, I don't know, take a ticker to off the damn sinker and maybe control it a little bit better, who knows where he can go.
[SPEAKER_02]: At this point, if I'm trying to find some silver lining here, because I got nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope Dustin may get to let up the first couple times out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just fill the chaos just for the chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pro chaos for the rest of the year and you can say it's sacral.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just all you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll limp into that third wild card spot, but you know, we're not we're not going far agreed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Throw it's on mute.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've done it in a really long time, Terry.
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been a fun day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I miss it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the only highlight of today being muted so that no one heard me cuss again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not cuss on mute.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, anything else you guys want to add?
[SPEAKER_02]: Go sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's adorable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go Astros.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's different to carry on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so vital.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, Jesus.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to do it for the bastards.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone have a great day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take care.