[SPEAKER_03]: On the Fourth of July, I met an English woman who was celebrating the Fourth of July inside the United States.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she reviews aggressively American products, but doesn't drink bourbon.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought I'd give her some American whiskey that's Jeff Fuel and see how she reacts.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think all of our patrons supporters, without patrons support, we would not be able to produce this content for all of you three viewers out there that are watching this online.
[SPEAKER_03]: And everyone's names are on the screen right now are contributing at the top three levels.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's get this thing started.
[SPEAKER_03]: First off, let me introduce my guest, Christina.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Brandon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so glad to have you here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very happy to be there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's tell a little bit of the backstory.
[SPEAKER_03]: So first off, I've seen a handful of viral videos of English people trying American products.
[SPEAKER_01]: How many of them were women?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've said, it's usually when I'm scrolling on eye funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've seen a number of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it was Fourth of July, and I went out on my back patio, and I could see my neighbor's purgola.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they had red white and balloon set up.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had American flag balloon set up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know that Gavin is from England.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I was like, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: in the hell was going on over my English buddy's house.
[SPEAKER_03]: And fully embraced the Fourth of July tradition.
[SPEAKER_03]: I stood up on my table.
[SPEAKER_03]: I looked over the fence.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, guys, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, we got a bunch of British people over here.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're having some fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, all right, I'm coming over.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I come over.
[SPEAKER_03]: I walk in.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is going to come as a shock to many of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But my name in England means horny.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I walk up to Christina and I'm like, hi, my name's Randy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a friend of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: So right away, I knew I was dealing with a spitfire and I found out that you have a podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well I have a YouTube channel called Christina's Taste of America, where I taste American food or drinks for the first time on camera, so it's never a lie, whether it's good or bad, I'm gonna tell the truth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and what's the name of your podcast that people can find it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It is Christina's Taste of America on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: On YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I find out she has this podcast, and what is your relationship with bourbon?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you a big bourbon drinker?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was a barmate, but bourbon and whiskey's
[SPEAKER_01]: I tend to stay away from, because to be honest with you, I don't really know a lot about them at a lot of time.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I've tasted is just like fire down your throat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But your husband, he likes, he likes something.
[SPEAKER_01]: My husband loves whiskey, so it's my go-to gift for him whenever it's birthdays or anniversary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're familiar with some of the brands that you, you're not familiar with all of the tastes.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I had this idea that we would align what I've seen in viral videos and what your YouTube channel is and I'm just going to give you some whisky since see what your reaction is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: So first off, backstory, this whiskey is called Angels in V. Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is of the rye variety.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they make a bourbon, they make a rye.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the backstory is this gentleman used to work for brown form and corporation that owns Jack Daniels would reserve, old forester.
[SPEAKER_03]: And after he retired, he had this idea that he wanted to start his own company that they make the whiskey legally the way that you have to make it in the United States.
[SPEAKER_03]: and then he would put it in use barrels the way they do in Scotland, which was not the normal process in the U.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so his right whiskey barrels, he puts in room cast, Caribbean room cast.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm giving you this one because this is my wife's favorite whiskey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever had a snicker doodle cookie?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a shuffling with cinnamon on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what this tastes like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they have a little banana flavor, and it's like more of a banana flambé.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's literally Thanksgiving in a glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Christmas in a glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I meet a woman who says, my husband likes whiskey, but I don't like whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: I give her this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if she tastes it, and she's like, oh, girl, so I'm like, we're done.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't help.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're gonna, this is the acid test to see how bad the rest of these are gonna be in your base.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So smell it up, what do you smell?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even power in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just down the hatch?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's a good question.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are not shots.
[SPEAKER_01]: No shots.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are not shots.
[SPEAKER_03]: So one thing you need to know, if you're not a whiskey drinker, alcohol is literally poison to humans.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it is very caustic and it is shocking to your system.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so what I typically recommend is that you put a very small amount on your tongue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it will start to accommate your body for this experience.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about to have it will make you start to salivate.
[SPEAKER_03]: It'll proof the whiskey down in your mouth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that way it doesn't burn as much when you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what the problem is.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the problem is.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first time probably not, let's just go a little bit on your tongue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: and then after you've celebrated swallow and then we'll do a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to switch later you can, but one of the reasons why people think that they can't request gifts that they always shoot it and you're getting so many ethanol vapors into your sinus cavity and it burns and it's not positive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm used to wine, so this is completely different kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we're going to do just a little drop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pray for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: You let it cook the power a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I swallowed.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, Randy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, there's plenty of jokes to be made around here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll go, I'm going again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what it, but was that, was that?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is palatable, this is dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not hurt, it's not hurt.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay, perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got a chance of converting her into being a whiskey drinker, but wait to see where I take her next.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be extreme.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so this one, if you pour it over ice, it's very much like a cocktail.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got a lot of sweetness to it and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this is very approachable, very palpable.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this one's a hundred proof.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's got average or is that high?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's a good question.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in Scotch whiskeys and most of the whiskeys that are going to come from British companies as a whole, because there's a few English producers and of course there's Irish producers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of the time their whiskeys are released at like eighty or eighty-six proof.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's that's pretty normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the United States, the low end of what is normal unless you're talking about like super conglomerate like Jack Daniel's back label Jimmy White label is usually about ninety proof.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but for the whiskey enthusiast nerds out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really the game doesn't get started until one hundred and above, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And so one hundred is kind of, you know, like I own a brand of whiskey to prideful go.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've basically said I'll never release anything less than a hundred proof because for the whiskey nerds that are out there, that's the one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that what we're gonna do is I got you bottle water.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna have you throw a little water in your glass because this whiskey will definitely influence the flavor of the next thing you put into your glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we're going to go super extreme on this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is currently the highest proof whiskey that I have.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you had to help me read it because my eyes decided to stop working about three weeks ago at close.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I have not gone to pick up my new reader glasses yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think we detached this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, in the United States, we have safety standards that are hazmat, hazardous materials, safety standards, and this is considered a hazardous material because it is above one hundred and forty proof.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which means that it's totally cool, but you cannot take it on an airplane because it is so flammable that it's dangerous.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so when you have a whiskey that's above one hundred and forty proof, all the transit has to be done on gram transportation.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not supposed to bring a bottle or a sample on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm scared.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You should do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I gave you a little bit of whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna... Should I even smell it?
[SPEAKER_03]: It will hurt you.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, these glasses were specifically designed by me to dissipate ethanol burn.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if I gave it to you in a different glass, it might be a little worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, load help me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you smell?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you smell anything?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm smelling all the smell like it's strong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's strong.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's strong.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll take it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's try and do this in maybe three ships.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you have to tap out, it's fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a party.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to scale one to ten.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ten being this a great experience.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to do this as often as possible.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one being like, oh, this is terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Take me to hospital.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are we at?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're at like a six.
[SPEAKER_03]: A six.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's more on the pleasurable side than not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you're not going to drink this the whole night.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you want to get the party started, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm testing my new whisky glass that I had designed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's a company out there that's a real Karen.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she threatened to sue us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we had been in producing some traditional tulipshape whisky glasses.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: We never used the name.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they claimed to own the shape of the glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: And since I'm just a little guy, I couldn't fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But do you know what that motivated us to do, Wes?
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: To go out and design a glass that was actually made for high-proof American spirits.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the company that had the problem with us, their glass was originally designed for low-proof Scotch whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: eighty eighty six proof that type of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what I noticed every time I would know is a really high-proof high-quality, oh, spirit in the United States.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Out of this glass, all I got was ethanol.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, little burn there, I felt that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so we went out and we designed this glass that's actually designed for those higher-proof spirits.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm so confident in this glass that if anybody were to go to our website and buy one, I'm offering a money-back guarantee.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you get that glass to your house and you find yourself one of these traditional tulips shaped glasses and you know the high-proof spirits side by side, you can't tell the difference.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will gladly give you your money-back.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what you're saying is they can really stick it to the Karen and support the little guy by going to bourbonrilltalk.com and ordering one of these with absolutely no risk, they can get their money back if they don't prefer it, nosing it to the other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you love small business and you like sticking it to Karen's, that's the way to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stick it to Karen, bourbonrilltalk.com.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely think if you was a bit sick, just take a shot of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: You would be fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to call it a doctor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And clear you right up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so on your channel, you taste various things.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so is there any nuance to flavor that you're noticing in here or is this just fire for you?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like busting around the mouth, it's going down, the chest is burning, but in a good way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is like woo.
[SPEAKER_03]: So slightly more positive than negative.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, you're not doing bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me finish it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty impressed.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty impressive for.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're gonna rinse our glasses again because we're switching whiskey categories.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also I didn't mention this.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first one I give you were Rye Whiskey's.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan whiskey's have to be made from a majority of the right grain and right grain has a lot of spicy flavor notes that are reminiscent of like Thanksgiving dessert flavors like clove and nutmeg and cinnamon you know thanks like that
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes I get a little bit of a tiny note from those.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I find, this is not always the case, but I find that a lot of times women gravitate more towards Rye because those baking spice notes are more familiar things that they're already accustomed to.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying that women are mainly in the kitchen running.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I was not at all saying that for the record I do one hundred percent of the cooking at our house Yeah, so and I don't meet sweets and Let's use a bake, but what she did I didn't even need that much all right, so now this is
[SPEAKER_03]: This is my love.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, this is my favorite whiskey of all time.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is George T. Stack.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that shall go to.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, this whiskey is unattainable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it is so hard to find this whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will have
[SPEAKER_03]: maybe a half ounce pour on my birthday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see the special.
[SPEAKER_03]: Super special.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then if I'm sharing it with somebody else, I'll have a sip with.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's also known for being a pretty high-proof whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, this is the lowest proof year that they have ever released.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the only one that I have left.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's that hard to find.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this one's only a hundred and sixteen point nine proof.
[SPEAKER_03]: But these whiskeys were made from a majority of rye grain.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one is what they call a rye-based bourbon.
[SPEAKER_03]: So bourbon has to be at least fifty percent corn, but most bourbons are seventy to eighty percent corn.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's a second grain that usually makes up around, I don't know, tin to
[SPEAKER_03]: twenty percent of the mash bill, and that's what they call a flavor grain.
[SPEAKER_03]: And most Germans are dry as they're flavor grain.
[SPEAKER_03]: So a tamp down version of this guy, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Not as much baking spice, but it's in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's a third type of bourbon like this one where the flavor grain is wheat and those are softer and more citrus forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's check out this George T. Stag.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And see.
[SPEAKER_03]: what you're getting on the palate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the smell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, softer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Softer, that's a good, good descriptor.
[SPEAKER_03]: So George, she's tag is known for its balance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So lots of vanilla, lots of brown sugar notes from the caramelization of the wood sugars inside the barrel when they burn it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because whisky in the United States has to be aged in a new barrel that's never had anything else in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It has to be burned on the inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you do that it creates a caramelization layer where you get flavors that are not only vanilla because there's a compound called vandalin that's in the oak, but also you caramelize those sugars and you get things that
[SPEAKER_03]: It tastes like caramel.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a slightly sweet estate taste.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you don't always get that with the British whiskey because they're they're using goose barrels and all the vanilla got pulled out all of those which you've just got pulled out in the first use.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It starts off soft.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it gradually ups to a comfortable level.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that instant burn, like there was with that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it might be the proof difference.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to give you a hundred and forty proof George C. Stag and see if the balance nature of it was enough to overcome that for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I used to use because most often when I'm drinking whiskey it's usually with men and I used to use like analogies of women for them to understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whiskey and I've kind of gotten away from it, but this one... What's the analogy of a man on this one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's do women first and I'll try to do... I'll do women and then you do men back then.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, this is a sophisticated confident woman that does not need you.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's made her own way in life.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's elegant.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's confident.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes men are intimidated by her.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_03]: She has I mean she's she's a force to be reckoned with right she kicks the door in and everybody shuts up and listens So how would you how would you describe this?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, nice guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice guy, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, maybe he's too nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then, but then, you find nice guy on a dark side?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, in the bedroom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God, that comes out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he's smooth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's rough and rugged.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, I like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The dark horse.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we got a rinse because we're going to an even softer skiing.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so this is arguably the most sought after bourbon whiskey in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the twelve at home.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was gifted to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You traded services.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: But totally legal services don't let your mind go there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know she sent some things, but no.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, not that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: She, uh, legal, legal, legal, legal, legal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you doing your nanny?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I am Anani.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anani for newborns.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anubon babies and anybody who's got troublesome kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a really, really, really good nanny and I got a sort of an emergency phone call and it was like, hey, I need your help.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to move.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need someone to look after the kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you X amount and this.
[SPEAKER_01]: including the Papi twelve and I was like huh that might be a nice little gift for my husband yeah so I was like okay you got to deal but I was just sealed and it's not open so I'm really excited to actually try to fifteen I do
[SPEAKER_03]: I have the twelve open.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll let you try.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is Pappy Fifteen.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Pappy and some people get a personality about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Van Winkle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because there's Old Rip Van Winkle ten year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's Van Winkle lot be twelve year.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's Pappy Van Winkle fifteen twenty and twenty three years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so so most people refer to all of them as Pappy's.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's also a Van Winkle family reserve right.
[SPEAKER_03]: and people refer to all of them as papies, but some whiskey nerds go.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not that bad, if it's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've got some old tweet on the front of the bottle.
[SPEAKER_03]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And his grandson is still around, and he is running the brand.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then his son is involved, not his.
[SPEAKER_03]: But people recognize that the Pappy, twenty and twenty three, they're, you know, really hard to find.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they cost more money on the black market.
[SPEAKER_03]: But most people say that Pappy, fifteen is their fate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this one should be a little bit softer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, it's, it's a flavor grain is wheat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not getting a hosh now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this one's also only a hundred seven per hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: So to go from one forty one point two down to one oh seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like drinking water after this.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's no partner.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I had to spend almost ten thousand dollars at a liquor store over two years to accumulate enough plants to buy this bottle.
[SPEAKER_01]: quite smooth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Quite smooth, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, very approachable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is definitely a whiskey and a cigar situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: See, I like whiskey or most people like it whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't smoke a glass of glass.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a little bit on the sweeter side to pair with a cigar.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think there's that that good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would not put this on ice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's a lot of controversy about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I tell people drink it the way that you like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't disrespect the whiskey to get attention.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you, if you like your whiskey on ice, then drinking on ice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, but I'm going to recommend that you match the quality of the ice with the drink.
[SPEAKER_03]: hundred percent so let's let's get you a directionally frozen ice cube that's crystal clear that didn't have any fissures in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like a cave and not like a like a sphere they can do spheres too but a lot of people don't know this but you know how water expands when it freezes that's why ice has all of the white fissures in it because it freezes from the outside in and then the inside expands and it breaks the ice that's already frozen
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you go to a high end place that serves this type of whisky, often they have directionally frozen ice so they freeze it from one side to the other and they move the water so that it doesn't have those fissures and they can turn it into balls or they can turn it into cubes.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when they get done, it's perfectly crystal clear.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so if I'm going to put a really high and whiskey on ice, I want high and ice to go with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely agree with you with the quality of ice.
[SPEAKER_03]: To be honest, this video would have done much better if every time I gave you a whiskey, we were like, oh, this is the worst thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I had a feeling that with your experience, that you would be able to hang tough with this with whoever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't pussy out ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: You heard it here first folks.
[SPEAKER_03]: British women are strong enough to drink a hundred and forty.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: One point two.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Proof whiskey even though that's not your drink at choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: It must be the London in me.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so overall thoughts.
[SPEAKER_03]: And any closing thoughts since you review American products.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, we didn't cover this.
[SPEAKER_03]: American whiskey is you if I want you to finish this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: When people say the phrase, this is as American as what do you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Apple pie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Apple pie might be American, okay?
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's not nearly as American as a bourbon, okay?
[SPEAKER_03]: So American things, there's nothing more American than American whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first consumer protection law in the United States was about whiskey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whiskey is very important to American culture.
[SPEAKER_03]: So somebody who kind of reviews things that represent American culture, any final thoughts on any of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will definitely buy American whiskey.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not about Scotch or English whiskey or Irish whiskey.
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely think you're a great big contender in the alcoholic world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I appreciate that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is super good news.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, so we always give away whiskey on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I figured that we would do, because some of these are kind of rare and harder in place.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do half-ounce sample packs on this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we're going to have five winners when do the Angels of Eri, Hasmet Jack, Jurassic Stack, and the Pappy Van Winkle fifteen year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But also a future giveaway is because we do want every episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: And most importantly, you have to go to the YouTube video, find the web form that says free giveaway fill it out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: If this year first time tuning into the channel, we would love to tell you a little bit about why we do what we do and that is mostly about community and connection.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just about whisky and education and that became a personal mission of mine because I lost the love on the suicide and he was missing some of those social connections in this life and I saw how whisky is bringing people together so
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought to myself, maybe if I create a channel like this, I can get people connected to whiskey and whiskey will do the rest of the job and get people connected to each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you want connection, you do have to have ways for people to interact and a lot of forms had these people in them that were really hateful and cost problems with controls, whiskey trolls.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so we ended up creating our own form called Bourbon World Talk Community.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I believe it's the largest American whiskey-focused form in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's also troll-free.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was a great step forward for the mission and vision.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was going to what we were in upstarting a nonprofit called LiveStayProject.org, which is the suicide prevention and intervention nonprofit.
[SPEAKER_03]: and all of the administration and fundraising has done inside of the whiskey enthusiast community.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's been great rewarding as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we also learned from watching that troll behavior that if they can hate somebody, they don't even know online.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing that keeps me from loving someone that I don't even know online.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I end every episode the same way and that's this.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you woke up this morning and you're unsure whether or not anyone loved you, just know that I love you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll see you next time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be around.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cheers.