[SPEAKER_01]: welcome back to to long did read it everyone's most cherished most deserving favorite got to tell all their friends about it because oh my god the things we are uncovering on this podcast investigation of Reddit
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the first time we've admitted to being a podcast in the intro.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, usually some sort of dig or grave or something like that, but now we're a podcast, finally.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting more, I'm getting more experimental.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also more my own experiments.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I might spare a bit of time becoming more normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: The experiment is be regular.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could tell a friend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell a friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Leave a review.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember how we used to have so many reviews on Apple, then they all got a race.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it looks like no one has ever heard of our podcasts.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is that is really wild.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Apple tried to gaslight us into thinking that they were going to come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That sucked.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a terrible time for me because I spent hours talking Apple.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they just lied to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: because they said they were coming back and they never did.
[SPEAKER_02]: He never came back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Apple, you piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't need your garbage and you're a bunch of liars.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do need them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not listening.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't listen.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't care.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's listening from Apple?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're from Apple right in, I'm just saying that's where most people listen is on Apple.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but this is at true over Spotify.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alex got rid of Spotify and just uses Apple Music now.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think because something bad about Spotify.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I heard that like all they're making so many artists on Spotify that are fake artists that are AI artists.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are that like there's like really a lot of the most popular chant like musicians are not even real.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also people make money by making fake.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Spotify's like Spotify artist creator pages.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I heard something about that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they like run computers to run like the songs being played and then they're like, what are you from it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard because I do like listening to like, viral beats or like, you know, like stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then those DJ.
[SPEAKER_03]: DJ X.
[SPEAKER_02]: My brain glitched for a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like the, oh, this is good for studying, or this is good for stress relief, or I have one that I listen to for my grain relief.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's real, but that's all probably not real people.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just fake.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I used DJX a lot all a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am an apple person.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been since Apple Music came out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been on Apple Music.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now here's the question, who's on Amazon music?
[SPEAKER_03]: No one really.
[SPEAKER_03]: Unless, hey, well no, I don't want them to advertise with.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got rid of Amazon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have Amazon Prime.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have Amazon anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I think my dad listen to Sam was on music and he can't believe that he can get any song like that too.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like sort of living like fifteen years ago, you know, he's like, can you believe this watch this and then he'll like call up Siri and be like play totos Africa and then it'll play and be like, can you believe that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had Spotify for a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: So my dad has this huge record collection.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like I bought him like an updated deck and things for him to play his music on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like in this within the same weeks of each other, I was like, hey, I have like the family plan on Apple.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna add you to mine and you can listen to music and something in the car.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when I did that, he goes, wait, I can do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need these records.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a point.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, everything I need.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you know that this is on here?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like think about how wild that is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like think about you had to like go and get records and do all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like I was reading this book called Dancing From The Dance, which is like an old like gay novel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're talking in it about like how they made
[SPEAKER_03]: the DJ records and how they like had to like take each record and cut it together and blah, blah, blah, and I was like, this is wild.
[SPEAKER_03]: Imagine I would only say to my grandmother when she was alive.
[SPEAKER_03]: She had an iPhone and I would always say to her, like, isn't that crazy that you look computer in your hand?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you were like born in like the the nineteen twenties?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's nuts, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And she'd be like, yeah, it's pretty crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you live through so much stuff like now there's just like a phone in your hand and she was like, yeah, it is weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, of course it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm terrified of where we're going with AI.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it will be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think science wise and like medicine wise and you know, it's a potential that this will help.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll solve climate change.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, who knows, but also like I don't truly understand like what jobs will still exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like helps help save in climate change, but also
[SPEAKER_02]: contributing a lot to climate issues because it uses a lot of power and then like I think it's taking a way of a lot of critical thinking because like people will say now like instead of like Googling to find answers there'll be like I'll just use let me use chat GPD and it'll be for the simplest things that you don't have to use chat GPT for
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's really worrisome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I think like, you know, all the articles and information about how like students and school and college, just like, don't write their papers for study or because they, they want to get good grades and to be able to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just like, it feels like too obvious of an option not to use it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that?
[SPEAKER_02]: those students that are suing their teacher.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's either teacher or the school because they're not allowed to use chat GPT, but the teacher used chat GPT to grade their papers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard about students being pissed that the teachers are using chat.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they say that I really, they're suing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, why pay for our college education if you're going to be taught by a rulebot?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't make any sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I am for sort of deconstructing colleges a concept in the sense that I think a lot of it is gatekeeping and all the articles and things that you need to learn should just be put on j store or put online somehow like we should have it's interesting because that that was what
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people got in a lot of trouble for taking documents and things that were privatized and uploading them publicly because they believed in the democratizing of learning.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think if there's a way that you can research it and learn, but that's not what's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just going to be robots grading your papers like we're not that smart of a society.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think and like we could have access to the library of Alexandria and we'd still be like what like writing into the robot.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it is going to cause.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's going to be problems created and quicker than we have solutions.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I don't think that there's like the idea of like, and it could open so many doors in the future.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure, but we're not going to get to discovering those doors before the bad stuff is discovered.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think if we approach it as we're losing jobs, we like,
[SPEAKER_01]: start to incorporate universal basic income, then it's a different transition.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I think is going to happen is everyone's going to lose their job and then there's going to have to be like riding for universal basic income to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Problem is that automating, it makes things easier for the wealthy people.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if someone loses their job, that's why I hate those little robots that deliver stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just like, I want to kick one.
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, so it's like the people are like great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to interface with a person incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what I wrote about on my sub stack in my essay that I wrote about bio hacking, which is the idea that they're like, oh, look at this bio hack.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can look into this, they'll put it at Whole Foods and you can look into this thing and it'll give you a full eye exam.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, yeah, of course, because people don't want to have
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't even want to risk having an awkward conversation with an optometrist.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't want to have the human interaction.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want to just be able to eliminate that part of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then what happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I saw a subreddit where it was our optometrist.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, are we going to have jobs?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like even certain doctors.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a scary spooky time, a spooky scary time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what's less spooky?
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I overreacting?
[SPEAKER_01]: It is said so this story is a little spooky.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was misleading, because OP writes, am I overreacting?
[SPEAKER_01]: After I found out my boyfriend's online friend's group, I became part of two years ago, has been just him the whole time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I should have been less oblivious, but since a little before we started dating in twenty twenty two, I was added to my boyfriend's, just friend at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Three person Instagram group chat, with what he explained were some of his closest online friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other two accounts seemed like real people because they had real followers and comments on their post and drastically different S that X slash looks to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: We eventually made a discord server for us, and that alone is convincing us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Since multiple times, we'd all be active at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'd have a voice chat, but I used to never voice chat either, so I didn't think twice.
[SPEAKER_01]: The group got closer, though, as more and more time passed since I was first added to the group chat.
[SPEAKER_01]: And last month, we got together and planned a research trip to Hawaii for August.
[SPEAKER_01]: We live on the East Coast of the U.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we booked everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: So imagine my surprise when I'm over at his house tonight and his computer is open and I just want to log into my Google Docs when I actually stumbled across first of all, follow our bot sites and also him logged in and chatting with me as one of the individuals I had become close with.
[SPEAKER_01]: and just got this sinking feeling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't jump to the idea that they could be fake either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like maybe he just has their logins since they're all so close and is way too interested in their messages.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I noticed their only chats were the group chats and the server and the real kicker was the email address it was signed up under was his backup email with his full name.
[SPEAKER_01]: I quite literally snooped until he got out of the shower and caught me, which I'm not saying was right of me, but I couldn't help myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: During my snooping, I gradually became devastatingly confident that he wasn't just behind one, but both accounts.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen his face so red and he just absolutely panicked and started shouting at me to get out of his business.
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't even form the right words to say to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in the end, I just walked out of his apartment sobbing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very early in the morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this screenshot is what he has to say and I'm starting to feel crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I overreacting?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the screenshot.
[SPEAKER_01]: OP says, I just wanted to know why.
[SPEAKER_01]: When it finally came time for the Hawaii trip, how are you going to explain that?
[SPEAKER_01]: What were you thinking?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know something I've noticed about you, you can never just be calm.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there always has to be an issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you were raised in a volatile environment.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still have to relearn a lot about healthy relationship dynamics.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like you thrive on chaos only.
[SPEAKER_01]: and we were gonna see wicked tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess there goes that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't be serious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I deserve answers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm honestly so creeped out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically half of my life for the past two years has been a complete and total lie and you were behind all of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, don't be dramatic.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know this isn't a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just getting to harp on this and make a bigger issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, I've dated this person.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was something you needed to see so that you could get out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think every action is way worse than what he did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's awful.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what else are they hiding?
[SPEAKER_01]: And like how manipulative to like immediately go to like this is a you issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is because of your background, you're the problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Get out of the fuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: She probably had her own conversations with these people.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: That like now it was just him the whole time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's adapting different personalities.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that they that they leave.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean that's horrible and also like how do you trust after
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is like a real, this is a real, get out of there.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no coming back from this.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like the Truman show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's just like everything you'd be like, what is real?
[SPEAKER_03]: What is it real?
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what happens if the reaction had been different?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the boyfriend had been like, I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mean it to turn into this thing that it turned into, but I really liked you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that if I had you in a group chat that we could get to know each other better, it would kind of spiral out of control.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would be like, okay, I'm not gonna like tell anybody about, or you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm not gonna like make this a whole big thing, but like we can't be together.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry that you felt that way and that you were, you know, insecure in that way, but I gotta go.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think the plan was for Hawaii?
[SPEAKER_03]: Murder to say that they couldn't come.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I thought maybe he was gonna kill her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause clearly from his reaction, he's got no soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: So terrifying.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty clear, not overreacting situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing is that almost every MI overreacting post the person is underreacting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have, it'll be like, my boyfriend, seven hundred years older than me, murdered my cat in front of me, am I overreacting?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a bunch of nineteen year old girls being like, is my forty six year old boyfriend doing like am I overreacting?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I'm like, I, the amount of times that I've commented you are underreacting on posts on am I overreacting is infinite amount of time.
[SPEAKER_01]: You comment?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I just write you are underreacting.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you use your real name.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have a Reddit username.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's my full name.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I use it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And nobody ever, they don't look at user names.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I do not, not a once has someone been like, wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't bump into each other, but you don't know who I am, but I've never seen your stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we are trying to think if I've ever left a comment anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing I will do is I'll leave like a yellow for Google review if somebody asks me to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I do it just because because I know how much it matters.
[SPEAKER_03]: You do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_03]: I just I because it matters to employers.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I use the person who did a good job's name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like I've been to a place a couple times and I found out the like I this massage place.
[SPEAKER_03]: I I found out the the three people that had
[SPEAKER_03]: That had done my massage in their names and then in the review.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like then and Josie and you know Naomi did really good jobs and you should go here and they're great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, never think to do it if I'm not asked to but I guess I should.
[SPEAKER_03]: It matters where I work.
[SPEAKER_03]: It really matters.
[SPEAKER_01]: It matters.
[SPEAKER_03]: They put your name.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you get?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you get money?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but they send it to the whole company and it's like a boon.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't get money, of course not.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if not, well, you said it really matters.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, in what sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes me feel nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had excellent service week ago when I was in Arkansas at a restaurant.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think in the waitress had asked to leave a review.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, of course, but then I forgot, but this was my great reminder.
[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lovely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's continue on this train of horrible people behaving badly in relationships and go to the subreddit, dating hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: My best friends date showed up on a date with her bodyguard and made him film her TikToks on finding provider men.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know exactly what they're talking about though on TikTok though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: I might have seen this person's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a, I wasn't like familiar with this type of content until I read this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like his OP rights.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a male friend, thirty one years old, straight, who is actively dating.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we are both single, we like to get together a lot and share our crazy experiences.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this did not happen to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It happened to him only a week ago too.
[SPEAKER_01]: He lives in Austria and was chatting up a girl on Tinder.
[SPEAKER_01]: They met a person at a hotel bar that she suggested and she showed up with another dude who was supposedly a bodyguard she hired, which is very reminiscent of a Nathan Fielder Nathan for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: episode entitled Daddy's Watching where he suggested that a dating app provided a bodyguard for women.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not the worst idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually think that's a great idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calling a Daddy's Watching, perhaps not, but it was a pretty good idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, that's where it's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the date, she explained she's an influencer and a CEO, so she has to hire a bodyguard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sure, proceed.
[SPEAKER_01]: During the date, she pulled out her iPhone and filmed this around the area a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the conversations have all pretty much heard talking about her business and asking him about his finances and you will income job and whether he owns any property.
[SPEAKER_01]: She asked my friend to film her too, doing something I can only call a white woman version of the Beyonce hair flip.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the video.
[UNKNOWN]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: After the date we were able to find her online, her Instagram, TikTok, everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: The video she filmed had a caption of, quote, set your standards high and you'll only end up dating providers who take you to the rits.
[SPEAKER_01]: She also had a bunch of selfies of herself holding bouquets that my friend had ordered for her prior to the date.
[SPEAKER_01]: Except he didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a PR stunt as she was smelling an e-book on how to find provider men to date.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did she show his face?
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't seem like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like she had him film her.
[SPEAKER_03]: and maybe like be like a pair of male hands in the photo or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's this woman called sheer seven who is I feel like the biggest person that's does this provider type thing because she does she's like I'm not giving relationship advice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm giving financial advice for basically giving a man that has money and her tag line is sprinkle sprinkle and
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: What does that mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Anytime she says something that is like, and she's so quick and funny, because she does live streams, and she'll say something like, maybe I should just play a video.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, bring girls, bring girls like like money or like sugar, like sugar daddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the same, like after she says something that's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: like make money girl found quote-unquote sprinkle sprinkle you got it so like sprinkle sprinkle I'm putting seeds and it'll grow yeah how do you want to take it however you want to take I like that interpretation yeah so she so it's her and there's his other lady and then there's his man but basically calls to do his broke if they can't do this for their their women so it's like the three of them I would say would be like the top three because like
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's been in a relationship for like Mary for like twenty years.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so she's like, this is what I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that worked twenty years ago when people had more money.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's still very popular.
[SPEAKER_03]: But also, okay, here's my question.
[SPEAKER_03]: if you're like getting a provider man and he's doing stuff for you but he's posting about like multiple girls does is it just you don't care and you just want this guy to like when he sees you give you a bunch of stuff or like her whole thing is like well she's married but her whole thing is like oh man cheat so you might as well get something out of it she's not wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also if she's got such a great provider man why does she have to make content?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well her things are interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have your man to provide for you, but you always have to have your backup.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so like you use him for basically your seed money and then you make your own business out of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny how many businesses are just the business of teaching you how to make a business.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like half of what people do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why in the financial space like the advice that I've gotten about like making passive income by just like selling courses or whatever, but I'm like, that's not me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's not I'm not like girl boss close to the sun like
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I never felt like I wanted to like scam people in that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not that it's a scam, but you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: I just was like not interested in being like, let me grab everybody's like, thirty bucks so they can bought.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It felt really weird to me, especially because I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a Ponzi scheme where it's like, it's like pay me thirty dollars to sell you an ebook about how to sell an ebook.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of times these people are just renting out places to go film their content too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they'll rent an Airbnb.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really luxurious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like they're richer than they are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or a lot of the like playing content when people are on like private jets and stuff, they're just sets that they're going to film.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you can rent a private jet to film on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but that's, but you're talking about not even a, it's not even a real jet.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are just sets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or that's what I've been doing wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been filming too much in my own office.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to, you got to go, bring you a house in Melbourne and walk the balcony.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was that family that, that family vlogs that they had two separate houses?
[SPEAKER_03]: One was their real house and one was the house they filmed in.
[SPEAKER_03]: so that it would be like the Kardashians.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't refer to the Kardashians family bloggers.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not far off.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's not that's so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: People give wild advice online.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's always like any wild advice you could find online.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could find someone telling you the exact opposite.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or is it everyone has an opinion?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The problem is that people are so convinced that they're right because they think their reality is the only one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like someone will be like, oh, do we think my boyfriend's cheating?
[SPEAKER_03]: He looked at his computer, something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And someone will be like, he's definitely cheating because two weeks ago, my husband looked at a computer.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's always just based on what just happened to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, whoa, you know what I see a lot?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: I see a lot of men's stuff comes up for me a lot and it'll be like, my wife has a coworker at work that she's close with.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: What does this mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then every comment will be like, sorry, bro, she's fucking that other guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's more of an alpha than you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you better just leave her, hit the gym, get a lawyer.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so the thing that the men say is what is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's document everything, hit the gym, get a lawyer, something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the advice for everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like she's definitely fucking him.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's cooking you, she's using you.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all shit like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like worst case scenario, no benefit of the doubt to the woman at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there was one eye sauce being read it.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was one eye saw where it was this guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had dated this girl.
[SPEAKER_03]: They split up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then while they were broken up, she slept with someone from her gym.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then she went by and then she wanted to get back together with OP.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she was like, just, I want to get back together.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were like, so excited to get back together.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was like, just FYI, like I did hook up with this guy for my gym while we were apart.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want me to get back together.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want you to know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, what should I do?
[SPEAKER_03]: All the comments were like, she was fucking em all you were together.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was fucking in the whole time.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's fucking him now.
[SPEAKER_03]: She just realized that he's not, he's not a good enough provider.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's coming back to use so that she can like have, you know, she can have the nice guy and still keep fucking this other guy at the gym.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it was like the worst case scenario of this scenario was what everyone was saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm worried about is that I feel like I constantly believe things if I just heard it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, I think all the time about I was walking the dogs and my neighbor was like, oh, your dogs love my lawn because it's the only lawn with real grass on the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, huh, yeah, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe there are so many lawns with real grass on my street.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a lie.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't true at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the same way.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the same way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it really made me realize that I got a real problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you didn't believe it though.
[SPEAKER_01]: How long did you believe it?
[SPEAKER_01]: For a bit until I noticed some other grass.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I really, and I think about it almost every day as like I got to be more vigilant.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm believing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I find a lot of times I'm like on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: and I'll like see something and I'll be like oh no and then I'll see someone like have the opposite opinion I'll be like oh that's it right and then I'm like I don't even know like I can't even figure out my own opinion about things anymore so I'm so easily swayed by people I think you have your own opinions I think you are very opinionated person sometimes with political stuff like I don't know what the right take is yeah I don't like what's the right right information
[SPEAKER_03]: That is not my experience of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't find that to be my interactions with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but for example, this Jake Tapper book that came out about Biden.
[SPEAKER_01]: My first instinct is like, oh my god, this is like so wild that they hit that they like, you know, kept all this stuff from us about how bad Biden's decline was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you see all these like anti Jake Tapper people being like, he had a vendetta against Biden.
[SPEAKER_01]: He like was calling Hunter while Beau was dying trying to get a scoop and he didn't get a scoop.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like hates the Biden family.
[SPEAKER_01]: also like John Stewart being like if it's news why did they wait to release it in a book someone said the George Clooney the George Clooney incident that they say like I was in the room and he did recognize George Clooney and so then I'm like I don't know what to believe but then but then I also think that that that Biden was
[SPEAKER_01]: very cognitively impaired, but that maybe also Jake Tapper did some unethical things along the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that can be true at the same time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not you having not having an opinion.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is you having issues together and having no I'm saying having issues holding to truths that once because you have a big justice complex.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you need there to be like
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I thought true of me anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could hold many things true of what's now.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then hold it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But to me is like, I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but I don't know what to, but
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I do think there's something to be said about these journalists who wait to reveal things until their book comes out.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not all what you were saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying at this point, it's irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_03]: He should have reported on it when it was happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean, there is something about
[SPEAKER_01]: group think and the problems within the democratic party and this idea of loyalty over reality and how people don't believe the truth and you know they're that's interesting obviously it's not the most pressing issue with Trump but that something there's definitely things to be learned from what happened I think we should find out if Trump is cognitively defined someone look into that if I was thinking the same thing
[SPEAKER_03]: The Republicans are doing the same thing that they were trying to do with Biden.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to find a couple like weirder subreddits.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this one is called imaginary gatekeeping.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, you'll know what it is when, like, it's basically the idea of when someone makes a TikTok or a post that's like not a thing that anybody said they couldn't do.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it'll be like, they said a mom of three could never open a Pilates studio.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like, you know, like, I did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's sort of like, who said that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like nobody said that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, it's like, it's like, you know, they said,
[SPEAKER_03]: Can hand-made creations like this be called art?
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever, I made them and I'm selling them or like business and law schools don't have cool facilities and then it's like a tour of a college.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like nobody said that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who said that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who says bald men with fears can't wear floral shirts?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody said that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of my passions that I really hate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate it so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Boys over four.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is one of the things that I was like, what do you think is a passion you hate?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're passionate about hating it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm passionate about hating it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who said three one year old like right or like who said boys over forty with kids can't be cute and then it's like a guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody said that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also your man.
[SPEAKER_01]: When, when in your head, does a boy become a man?
[SPEAKER_01]: What age, Melissa?
[SPEAKER_03]: Thirteen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just kidding.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's Jewish.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: God.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think twenty five twenty seven twenty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they should be held accountable as men when they do bad things.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I hate the idea of like, he's just a twenty-year-old child.
[SPEAKER_03]: We should sentence him as such for sexual assault.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think that in terms of like, like, your brain hasn't full.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: And for dating, thirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: He depends.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, depends on the situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's situation on when you age, when you're whatever, but saying that you're a four-year-old, that is a man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a representative of Ohio Republican family, fishing, and freedom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do liberals hate this so much?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who said that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't like fishing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to throw them back though.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's traumatizing for the fish, even if you throw them back.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: How could that not be traumatizing?
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw a thing that it was like alien abduction where someone like picks you, you know, and then you come back down to earth and you're like, I was picked up by a thing and they're the fish, other fish are like, sure George.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, one other subreddit that I thought was funny that I just wanted to touch on another subreddit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I found our pointlessly gendered.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's like stuff that's like, um, uh, a congressman tells Fox News, I don't drink out of straws.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what women do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or, um, women don't care about linguistics only.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like a girl being like, I can't believe he didn't cry during Titanic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do many even have feelings.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like a guy that's like,
[SPEAKER_03]: learning about linguistics and getting emotional.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like what?
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that that that that men are emotional about other things and there's no woman ever who would be emotional about linguistics or something like it's very gendered for no reason who cares.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it your time for it or not, Melissa?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to look up.
[SPEAKER_02]: and see if this exists anywhere on Reddit, regardless of it's a subreddit, a title or anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you make homemade gatorade?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that would be nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This has definitely been talked about.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have it on top secret recipes, any homemade gatorade recipes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have it on frugal, make your own gatorade for four cents.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got another frugal post that says, hold me to get a rate eight times cheaper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Four cents.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are they using for the electrolyte?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's look.
[SPEAKER_01]: So water, salt, no salt, sugar, and citric acid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Salt is a good electrolyte.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you have to drink salt when I was like going to pass out at Hot Yoga.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, it is an electrolyte.
[SPEAKER_02]: But no salt would not make you get a rate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's, let's no salt.
[SPEAKER_02]: You said no salt.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the ingredient.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was called no salt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, spelled how.
[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, I said, one word.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably another electorally.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a original sodium free salt alternative.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that would still help you the way salt does.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because it's potassium chloride, potassium, biotry, and these are things.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are all electrolytes.
[SPEAKER_02]: at a picked acid silicone dioxide and then mineral oil and then it's a numeric acid.
[SPEAKER_03]: It always feels like so counterintuitive, but really when I was gonna pass out and I left the hot yoga studio and the people outside on the front desk gave me this like salt drink to drink, I have never been revived quicker.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been there too where I just felt weird and off and I couldn't exactly explain it and then drinking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a liquid multivitamin that has electrolytes in it and it was like instant.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was going to boil.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't drink a salty drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tried.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just can't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't taste salty.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I was having.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, maybe now I'll go pick up some pdf light.
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