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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a little caffeine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't say.
[SPEAKER_02]: On you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a doctor who can do nothing for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't write scripts.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm worthless, basically.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Also, I don't know, but a spot of, oh my God, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You came drugless as a doctor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's a PhD?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a PhD, not necessarily an MD, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're like Jill, you're like Jill, you're like Jill Biden.
[SPEAKER_02]: Without the memory issues and no, no, she's fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the it's the husband who's all fucking walkie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh Jill.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not Dr Joe Biden.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think Joe even has a degree because he was he got caught plagiarizing a bunch.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did they ever strip his degree or no, no, they don't they don't strip your degree for that
[SPEAKER_01]: They caught him in like the eighties at some point because they saw that he had plagiarized the speech and then they looked back at his collegiate record.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had plagiarized like three different papers that he wrote.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It happens.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, look.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who among us has it?
[SPEAKER_05]: You know?
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you ever plagiarize him?
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Penn State?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't stay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Benny Johnson did though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Whoa, whoa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you looking at him shocked?
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Ohio State.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, well, I'm fucking.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I mean, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, there's a don't some pedophile gap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you know to that Michigan Penn State or the politics.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, well, it's kind of athletic and it depends on the athletics to football.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was so good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody else Penn State, though.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wrestling my god.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're the recruits and everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's getting even better right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking to somebody about the sea of the day because I don't really follow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't stay current on college wrestling.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just know how good my university's always been.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're like I was talking to somebody that's plugged into with the other day and they were like they they're not a Penn State grab by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like nobody can compete with Penn State right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's getting even better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a big part of it is how
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of their non-football athlete alumni are obsessed with their wrestling team, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they go back all the time and have parties and watch the football team play, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Mike O'Person, Johan Dodson, all those guys, they're like huge Penn State wrestling fans for some reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't either, and you know, I told the story of the show before, but Dan and I went to an airport in Washington, D.C.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there was a huge group of people taking pictures of these dudes, and it was the Penn State wrestlers.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how famous they were.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they get the NIO money?
[SPEAKER_02]: Deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's technically everybody's eligible for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: They get money or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Penn State's wrestling team does.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, like Penn State does Michigan Iowa, couples go like Iowa, Iowa, Minnesota's legit.
[SPEAKER_01]: All Iowa State is very good.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did Lesnar go?
[SPEAKER_01]: Was he Minnesota?
[SPEAKER_01]: Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those Central North Farm West One team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Fuck around.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's that white man's strength out the fields, too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're to say,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, those cornfields throwing hay bales.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, you know, and wrestling cattle or whatever they do the lights out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: So first of all, you you looked so on assuming that I did not think you were a ranger and this is a wild story man.
[SPEAKER_05]: We wanted to have you on today because it was like you're the first ever
[SPEAKER_05]: Ranger dietitian like a lot of time, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like how do you even become that I've never heard of it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they reached out to you, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause they were saying the raw program.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They reached out to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: What year was this?
[SPEAKER_02]: two thousand and like six seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was somewhere in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was not it was not too long after the Marine Corps started like the combattas program what they had some other name for it and then I think in two thousand six army copied them and and started the combattas program and then the diet program started just right after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a six I think
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So before then, like, dietitians, so there's dietitians, the Army Activity Dietitians, sixty-five Charlie, for you nerds out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're always found at the hospital.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was at a hospital in Baghdad, even Sina.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, and somebody reached out and were like, the Rangers were looking for a dietitian.
[SPEAKER_02]: And some dudes showed up in the middle of the night and went to, you know, the D-Fak and like, talk to me and left.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't know what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they were like, hey, you know, show up to Benning and, you know, go through airborne school, go to Raspin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said yes and that's what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: So for me, none military.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, you're good.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're good, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ranger assessment selection program.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was wrote at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But now I'm worried.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, does it last now or did they change it again?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's still racking.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's racking.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's racking.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's racking.
[SPEAKER_05]: It
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, it's a challenge.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were some good options.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just people weren't making them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even the dining facilities like when you were deployed, a lot of people gained a lot of weight and it was just because they were, you know, getting midnight chow and just eating a lot of the bad stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So how I try to structure it, like when we worked with the dining facilities is, you know, to put the good stuff up front, we put the fruits and veggies up front, you tend to load up your plate and then have the bad stuff kind of, or that they're not so good stuff in the back.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you get a little less room on your plate when you get to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just simple strategies like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not rocket science.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I was and forgive me for being naive or well, I'll just straight up fucking dumb.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm getting dumber by the day here on this goddamn show.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought whatever they served you, everybody had to just eat everything that was on the plate and that was it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're thinking more of like, you know, the basic training environment or like the Ranger School environment where you're like, you're burning so many calories.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you just eat everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything you can because you're going to be in a court deficit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then once you get into like the active duty military, you're not burning as many calories most of the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: There might be certain training sessions, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you need to, you know, not eat like a pig constantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Rangers leave the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, they do.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they probably burn a lot of calories.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they probably didn't want them eating dog shit food anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: What did they start with and then when did they go to once you came on board?
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, what's a typical meal here?
[SPEAKER_05]: For that is a civilian question.
[SPEAKER_05]: What's a typical, well, I'm assuming breakfast is lunch and dinner, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you get for breakfast?
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you get for lunch?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you get for dinner?
[SPEAKER_02]: So for breakfast and I'll tell on myself, because I went too far with trying to change things.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, it was a typical, like, your pancakes, your sausages, your pancakes, waffles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, they had all, you know, like, the big, like, you got all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would that help you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Carbohydrate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about where it started out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then they had like Tater tots.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Tater tots for breakfast, which is fried which is fried Carbohydrate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you made that face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you want fats, but you want high quality fats.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that seems like a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Butter avocado, shit like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't want fried vegetable oil.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's disgusting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I had that same thought down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is where, you know, you learn, like, is a dietitian, you can change certain things, but people have their certain foods then you don't touch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I found that it was those fried tater tots at Range Regiment.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't fuck what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's the salt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I changed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did bake sweet potato tots.
[SPEAKER_02]: I probably went too far.
[SPEAKER_02]: I probably should've just went to bake and made it look like, but I went sweet potato to really try to, you know, jazz it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I got death threats.
[SPEAKER_05]: I bet you there's people at home who are watching right now, who actually want you dead.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're they're probably is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You did that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Repeat your name on more time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Your social and your address, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you my thoughts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, if you fucks with my thoughts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't scare.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, soldiers about whatever man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, you take my thoughts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Game over, friends.
[SPEAKER_05]: Something nostalgic about it, maybe.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know what, but to this day, I can still have a fucking top man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, is like a three kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so tots are everywhere, man, for kids.
[SPEAKER_05]: And uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll pop one of my mouth, you know, just kind of a drive-by where it's just like I'll see it there and just kind of pop one of my mouth and I love it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I still love it, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like meal times with children are the best time to teach them about taxes and how they shouldn't trust the government.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which obviously we do, because then I'll take a time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do that all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's my taxes.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the debt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, can't afford those at every single time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you get something tax.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's tax.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, that's what this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what happens after the revolt?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, we brought, we brought back some of the tots.
[SPEAKER_02]: We brought the tots.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we, you know, we had, you know, fresh strawberries, blueberries.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of good stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that's the other thing is meeting people where they're at and finding that, yeah, there's some balance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, we can change these things over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you can still have your thoughts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Any diet or exercise plan is dependent on it being, not I wouldn't take convenient, but definitely something that people are actually going to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, what the fuck is the point?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's like, uh, uh, socialism.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It does it like it sounds great, but if it doesn't happen in the way that you say that it doesn't fucking do anything, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, which is social a bit stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: We all know that now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so is like, these diet plans where you think you're going to take, uh, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of lean out the choices for people that's not that's not outworks right what you want to do is specifically what he's saying is put the good choices up front meets and fruits specifically vegetables there would be my thing but yeah yeah like the berries are a big thing all of our research now shows there's there's a chemical and a lot of berries called a flavonoid right and it's directly linked to survivability of cancer the number one
[SPEAKER_01]: Survival the cancer marker is skeletal muscle mass.
[SPEAKER_01]: The second one is certain chemicals in your bloodstream, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And flavonoids are one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So eating berries is important as much as I hate to admit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't just find it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like you gotta eat berries.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the skeletal muscle mass.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not a doctor, Gabrielle Lyon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she was on the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: She wasn't trying to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, God damn it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I heard that God damn berries.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then I pressed her on liver King.
[SPEAKER_05]: She got pissed.
[SPEAKER_05]: She got pissed off at me.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I wonder let's I want to go back in your history a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when you first joined the military, what were you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was a a seventy bravo, which was like just a medical service officer.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that until?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a evacuation platoon leader.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was at tenth mountain.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I had the, you know, the humbys that are like the ambulances.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's what I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I had a nutrition degree.
[SPEAKER_02]: So where?
[SPEAKER_02]: The University of Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to say third time damn it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm a crazy person when we got knocked out.
[SPEAKER_05]: We would be two guys by forty.
[SPEAKER_05]: That game still pisses me off since fucking death.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you a cheerleader boy?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Got grew up in Rome.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not in Rome, Georgia.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Home of Marjorie Taylor Green.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she wasn't there when I was there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were mostly known for your, you're probably her dietitian.
[SPEAKER_05]: You were the guy in the Spandex dude helping her work out, sneaking around with the husband.
[SPEAKER_05]: That wasn't me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, continue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, sir.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so University of Georgia did my undergrad in nutrition, had that degree, so had an opportunity to be a dietitian in the Army.
[SPEAKER_02]: So did that, and you basically go do rotations at a hospital.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I did my Brook Army Medical Center right down the road in San Antonio, and was doing nutrition in the Army, and they got a chance to go to Ranger Regiment, was there five years.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then after that, they paid for me to get my doctor to Texas A&M.
[SPEAKER_02]: No shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: The GI bill is fucking awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that the GI bill?
[SPEAKER_01]: That was not the GI bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That bill is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's there's something it's called long-term health education and training.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be like a military recruitment.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you're on active duty, they will send you to school.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pay you active duty pay and your jobs to go to school.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that like I was getting paid to go to school.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can sell to be, you know, I think you're still qualified for both the GI Bill and vocational rehab should you be certain amount disabled after the fact, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're, if you're like, if you have a medical degree, even if it's like a nursing degree or something like that and you go into the military, there is a lot of room for advancement.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's there's to be honest, there might not be a better pathway.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, for me, I have no complaints.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't have got my doctor for one for the most.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're not going to get some private organization to pay for all that school.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so did you see any combat or anything?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, but I'm not a, I'm not a trigger polar.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a nutritionist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just to be, you know, I was around the guys that were cool that did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've been there late.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like them.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a lot of mechanics over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them for vehicles, some of them for planes, some of them for bodies.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, we didn't have enough of that back in the day, which is why the military is trying to solve that problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're still trying to solve it today, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, during that O-Five O-Six time period is when the brigade combat team became a thing, and they start like the army or the military in general realized, we've got to put experts down at the ground level with these people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, the flow of information takes too long.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's at a hospital, and at biop, and back down,
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, and I come back to Tajji maybe once every month.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I live out in the city.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never fucking running into this guy ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it would be a huge coincidence that's why I even saw it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just so so you gotta go down to the unit level at some point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was where like,
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, regiment was innovators in terms of, so like my deployments with them, and I was with the occupational therapist, physical therapist, we had a whole team.
[SPEAKER_02]: We would just travel around to your point to where they're all located, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And me and where they're at, because otherwise you can't wait for them to come back to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we were always kind of out there where the folks were at.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what do you do out there as far as dietitian was?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's simple stuff like you talk about nutrition and believe or not, I know this gonna surprise you probably is dudes in the military are pretty vain.
[SPEAKER_02]: They worry about their body and it looks like I had skin fold calipers with me like interact in Afghanistan, a guy's gonna want to get their body fat tested.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, you know, I would do it and we would, you know, we talked nutrition dietary supplements like you can get supplements down range.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you gotta be careful on what you're taking steroids.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were dietary supplements that could cause gynecumastia that folks maybe took and so they need to be okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you gotta watch those things.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got to dumb it down for the audience, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: You take steroids sometimes that are illegal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, do you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sounds to words.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, there was.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you go to a trained physician like yourself,
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's a proper, you're a goddamn doctor for Christ six.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're a male Jill Biden, but there's a lot of people that can take steroids properly and in a healthy way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, steroids is the wrong way to say it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It depends.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, nobody should be taking shit like D-ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no utility that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But some of the other stuff that you take that are performance enhancers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to me, it's always made.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think this about professional sports, but certainly I think that we should
[SPEAKER_01]: I've talked to DOD about this and I've talked to VA about this and they have been very slow to acknowledge or move on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why, but every male in the military or in the VA system should be tested for testosterone levels.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it immediately.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So get a baseline.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did a basic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've the framing him data is like eighty thousand years old.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also fucked because they compared sixteen year olds to eighty year old.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nonsense.
[SPEAKER_01]: All that stuff is stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we have a hormone crisis in this country both on the male and female sides.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to exclude the females, but this is a it's way more of a male problem right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also causally linked to suicide, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a study that one of my friends has involved in where eighty three percent of the people that were self-reported suicide ideation or attempts had loads of stuff like severely low testosterone and that shouldn't shock anybody of course that's true right so there's this is something that
[SPEAKER_01]: I've just been harping on for a very long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have some software issues due to war and social issues, but we cannot solve them without solving the hardware issue first.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it would be really, and look, part of that is the died stuff as well, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I started out when I first got to the military.
[SPEAKER_01]: to me about two and a half years to get with the right doctor finally and get my hormonal levels checked and get real answers.
[SPEAKER_01]: My level is one sixty five which is like a holy shit which is like a ninety-year-old man.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is how twice as low as mine was twenty twenty nine.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was twice as low as mine was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I wanted to come myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thirty or thirty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, uh, thirty or thirty wine I was down that low, they started me on Andrew Jell and shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Finally I started getting injections and it started out at once you see a week which I think is a lot, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but over time as I improved my diet exercise routine and my gut health is another huge part of that because like ninety-five percent of your hormones are created in your gut, superior in garbage food and you got parasites, doesn't matter what you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: As I corrected all that shit, I'm way, I'm down to less than half of that now, right, spread out over the week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you gotta solve the acute problem first, and then move into the general problem second, and the acute problem becomes less acute, obviously, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've had a ways to go on this, and there's plenty of doctors out there that are doing stuff, but it's not enough, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: This needs to be at the institutional level, my opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I agree, wholeheartedly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it did some basic stuff like vitamin D levels too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a big hormone that we're seeing that's low in soldiers.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was part of a research study where we looked at vitamin D levels starting at Fort Hood all the way up to Alaska.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we looked at depression as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we found, hey, there's association between if you're vitamin D deficient, you're more likely to be depressed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then that gets stronger as you go further north.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet, you know, again, this is a test that you get to go to the physician and order.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then a lot of the pharmacies on military bases, they will give you if you get prescribed vitamin D, a D-two version, which is no good, you need a D-three.
[SPEAKER_02]: So these are basic things because vitamin D's connect is your hormone level, your testosterone level as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of low hanging fruit that could be implemented to your point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even for this group of people who are outside, I would say more than the average group of people.
[SPEAKER_01]: People that have our skin type have a really hard time absorbing vitamin D from the sun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, really hard time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crackers, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You almost have to supplement either increasing foods with vitamin D or just taking D three at ten thousand units a day, probably that for most people that's kind of where like the build-up period
[SPEAKER_01]: You go to about twenty thousand to ten thousand a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you're deficient.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're deficient.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't want to find a solid environment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you gotta be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't want to overdo it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But most people that look like us are deficient.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So get your levels checked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't ever just do something to do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, and I've told this story on the show where you had the doctor on the show, Dr. Frank, but he was the one, because depressed, suicidal all of those shits.
[SPEAKER_05]: I felt like, and I didn't know why, and it was one of the greatest periods of my life, and success-wise, and all that other stuff I couldn't figure out, he's the one that sent me to Dr. Frank, the Frank Institute out there in North Carolina.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got finally got my levels checked, figured it out, because I'd gone to a family physician first, and it was a four-al-one.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they said, now you're fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, average levels or insurance won't run your way over three eighty five, I think, or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what the changes would time.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, and I said, look, I don't care about the insurance.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll just pay for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they were like, ah, we don't we don't think you need it.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, you're right in the range.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like,
[SPEAKER_05]: and he was the one that told me and pushed me to do it, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: So I go see Dr. Frank and get my levels to where they need to be, feeling great, been on TRT ever since.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it just kind of takes out the brain fog, which it made me huge and jacked, which would be sweet, but it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: But with that, what Dr. Frank can told me, and this is one of the questions I wanted to ask you, was he sees it a lot in veterans that come back, you know, combat wise from overseas,
[SPEAKER_05]: And he says it could happen as early as age twenty eight.
[SPEAKER_05]: In some of these guys depending upon how hard you were going over there during war and combat and everything else.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is the military doing to help with this issue?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's emerging.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am not in a position to answer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm no longer associated with the DOD.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so you can say whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know, but I mean, people are definitely more aware of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's, there's, you know, I can't think of the guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it Chris for who did Operator Syndrome?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's talking about the looks.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's more acknowledged now, and I think there's a lot of groups that are looking at it, but it's still not institutionalized to my knowledge within the military, like Dan Stain is where you come in the military, even at eighteen, nineteen, tish-tish-tostrum check.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we have a baseline.
[SPEAKER_02]: Any time you go to the labs, add a vitamin D there, level there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you get it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you get a baseline to look where you're at?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you probably need to look at thyroid as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are some things because of the heavy metals, toxic exposure and plastics in our food supply.
[SPEAKER_01]: In general, the stuff that we drink out of, the stuff, even from childhood, the average twenty-one year old America has the same level of testosterone that the grandfather had.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in two thousand, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So this has got like, it's not, this isn't the result of the military for the most part, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely makes it worse because we get more exposure to head injuries and heavy metals than anybody else, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Firefighters and military people specifically get more than anybody else, but it's a problem before you get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I would say test not just to establish a baseline to make sure, right, that this kid's not already fucked up because if you're rolling in at seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
[SPEAKER_01]: and your T levels are in the five hundreds already.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how it's supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should be at a nine hundred by then, probably.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the reason we keep harping on this on this show is, I believe, and so does Dan, that this is what's causing a lot of suicides, because men in particular can't figure out what's going on with them.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we think of hormones and we immediately think of women.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't think of it as dudes of like, all right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Women have hormones, not like, I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, and, you know, somebody who didn't serve at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had this fucking problem, and it was awful, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: And luckily, my buddy here was able to correct it and everything's back on track.
[SPEAKER_05]: But this is something we'll keep hammering home.
[SPEAKER_05]: As long as we're on air, because I think it's very, very important.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then so is a diet.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what did you change then?
[SPEAKER_05]: That's, it's still used in the military as far as food wise and everything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, it was more getting the concept of treating soldiers like tactical athletes, which is a term.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some people are fan of, some people aren't.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do those important professional athletes in our society period?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: I agree in how much weight do you guys carry on an average day?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so when I was, it depends on what your role is, but when I was on a machine gun team, whether I was the team leader, carrying ammo, or carrying the gun myself, anywhere from like, eighty to a hundred and twenty-five, thirty-hundred thirty pounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: How many hours a day?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, you go on several hour patrols at a time doing that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so the like his needs like he's doing that in a rack right so one all that that energy he's expanding like just to keep up with it to keep them fuels and then the other piece is not heat like the sodium loss the fluid loss like staying on top of the hydration simple things that like
[SPEAKER_01]: football players at Ohio State Penn State like they've got a dietician that's on top of way in a minute out yep that's one of the things we would do I just get guys get on scale be like before you go on a mission get on scale when you go back for mission way or so we started doing that we started way in our equipment as well so we would have and this is something that like this this just makes sense to me right the way with the tech we have now especially
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in this position doing this job.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably going to burn X number of calories a day, so this is what you need to be on the intake, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And not even just total calorie with the macro nutrients as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been lied to so much about what nutrition really is by our government, not by the DOD, but by the FDA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to teach us that fat was bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: That bread read me its dangerous, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: That you need a bunch of servings of grain a day and shit like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need high quality fats and proteins, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you need to supplement with fruits and vegetables mostly.
[SPEAKER_01]: But people, there's so much noise out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we were to stuff in food down our face.
[SPEAKER_01]: If we had the, like if you told me,
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially as an infantry guy where not just my life, but my buddies lives around the line.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be performing optimally if you do these four things a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have done those four things, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And as an infantry guy, I don't have time to think about those things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just need to be told what to do and go execute.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my job, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're still working on it now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We still don't think for the broader army have that salt yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: No opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's promising in, like, with holistic health and fitness, they put dietitians down at these units and they're doing great things because they're doing exactly what you said.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was out with hundred first.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was lucky enough to give a nutrition class with them in January and, like, their dietitians out there with them, their H-T-F teams out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they went to J-R-T-C with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're there at where the training's placed, tell them how to recover, how to fuel, even, like, the mental training.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the mental resiliency stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the DOD is heading right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're working on it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, CZ and Robert Irvine are really working on revamping the food program right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We really have Robert on the show sometime in the near future to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not bringing CZ back to talk about it as well because he's been instrumental.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a former CAC.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been working on it as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, even down to the operational level where we're making plans on how to schedule patrols and how to schedule operations, we can do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can fold this information into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the operation comes first always, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's no reason to jettison all the information.
[SPEAKER_01]: We should at least take it into consideration.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, do we have the ability to optimize this using this information?
[SPEAKER_01]: If not, that's fine, but we should at least buck a try in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and what are some of the changes that you made that stuck?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just again, the fueling strategies.
[SPEAKER_05]: What's the type of it specifically?
[SPEAKER_05]: Because we've, I see a bottle of ketone like you sitting in front of you.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I know the doctor, this is just here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, because the DOD actually put money into that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is ketones something else that they're working on?
[SPEAKER_02]: They did put some money into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot to unpack there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some considerations with ketones that you have to be careful with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Taking exogenous ketones can potentially impair your ability to use carbohydrates.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's some things and then you can't extrapolate the research on like a ketogenic diet in the benefits you get from it or some people get a benefit from it and take an exogenous ketones.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it could be in play but for specific situations, probably not like athletic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're looking for athletics, it's it's ATP.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which also can you know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also a brain food.
[SPEAKER_01]: You also don't want to overuse it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because your body, it's just like anything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you start taking synthetic anything, your body's like, oh, I don't need to make that anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is always dangerous.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be you have to
[SPEAKER_01]: level checks, like, another thing, especially if you're an athletic person, creating levels should be on every test you do as well, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's a good indicator of how, like, is your body actually taking this food converting into the right kind of energy and getting into your muscles or not, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, like if you're eating, it would be no different than doing a test on your vehicle, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I made some tuneups to my vehicle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm using a different kind of fuel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it exporting the kind of power that I expect from that energy or not?
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's not, then you're fucked up because you gotta go change something.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you guys do pretty regular blood work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every three to six months.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they'll ask for specific things depending upon what's going on.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's always helpful.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's like, Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to live, you know?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: A couple more days.
[SPEAKER_02]: But so do you use the blood work?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because this is my new like passion, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really looking at the blood work and working with a group.
[SPEAKER_02]: And
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, what I see in the lab by you so often is they want to keep you just from deficiency or disease.
[SPEAKER_02]: When they're looking at your blood work or your physicians or ever, they talk about, well, you're not in a disease state, but it's not optimal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are they looking for optimization or something?
[SPEAKER_01]: My guys are, so I only work with a concierge optimizers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a normal doctor, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't think they're very, unless you have some kind of illness, I don't think they're particularly useful because they're trained for illness.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're trained to keep your head above water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is not what I'm trying to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So my guy says, I want to make you feel like a twenty-five.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I want you to do blood tests and I want to be able to show it to another doctor and have not be able to tell a whole of you are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you say who your guy is?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's Harrison Frank.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, right on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Frank.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Frank.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's our buddy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's our buddy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Good friend of ours and ship through the mail.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, through him power and Houston, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Drop shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's like, I think we've sent ten thousand people to him by his records like that, which he's never paid before.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Gabe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, he's doing it together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We love him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's great guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's like it should be about optimization.
[SPEAKER_01]: And part of optimization doesn't show up in the numbers either, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it is how you feel.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people will target these ranges.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be somewhere between eight, fifty and nine hundred, for example, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Not me personally, I'm to say, and somebody might say, I want to be in that range.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that might be a little bit too much for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you've got high rep blood cell count, for example, that's going to make you feel sluggish again, even though you have the energy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to make you feel heavy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your fucking chest is going to be pumping hard on what is going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you need to go down to maybe seven, fifty, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where you're optimal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it isn't just about the numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: part of it is about how you feel and how you're performing as well, which is why in the beginning it's going to take you about a year to get it figured out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and uh... sometimes you have to dump blood.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I do therapeutic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do therapeutic, because yeah, high-bremble, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same here, so I dump like twice a year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do it once every like forty-five days.
[SPEAKER_01]: A really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: I take an EPO.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's hold.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's no Lance Armstrong's in here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you want to, dude, I'll get on a fucking bike right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just had no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew I was going to have to do it because before I started taking test in general, my RBC has always been pretty high.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you were always crushing those rounds in the eighty seconds.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, your ass all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went, I went to a doctor a couple months ago and they're like, you have like elite, I actually be able to.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, I mean, I ride a peloton pretty regularly, but I don't run anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're saying you hate running.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate sucks, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: What would you imagine if you loved running that like you might be like, I'm not doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm running sucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: My legs are too heavy for that bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Were you good at rocking?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm terrible.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've always hated it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've never had this stamina for like a long distance where it's like my wife could get up and run twelve miles somewhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: which is wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what do you do for Carnia?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, usually, uh, uh, uh, Roman Sheen, and then, uh, the Roar is good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, just a light jug.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing crazy, you know?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I don't jack it up to ten or anything and take off.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and let's, I'm trying to impress somebody.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, usually if there's a black eye next to me, I do it, you know, because I just want to I want to let him know that it's for us because I feel less than But other than that no, I don't I don't run it all anymore Hard of the needs man to be asked with you
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, as you get older, you start to worry about, all right, what is that going to go?
[SPEAKER_05]: Delco and I talked about this, too, of people who play like wreck basketball still, a wreck soccer is a big thing here, which I did not know.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I see these guys on the field and they're all
[SPEAKER_05]: kind of mid-forties.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they play soccer.
[SPEAKER_05]: Five, nine, eight sales.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dude, when I watched them play, I mean, I'm just waiting for an ambulance to show up.
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, they do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is if you ever stop, you can't start again.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or you've got to spend a couple of years getting your stabilizer muscles in shape again before you start putting that kind of stress on your joints.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bunch of different ways to do it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, you know, ply metrics in general.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're, if you've been out of the game for a while, whatever game it is and you're planning on trying to get back into it, do upper and lower body ply metrics and get your stabilizer muscles back into normal shape.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like it was when you're, and you can do it, it's possible to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if you don't want to ripen stuff, man, it's hard.
[SPEAKER_05]: I kid had a turn of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Afterwards, they won the championship and somebody screams out, somebody always screams out, you know, parents versus kids.
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... and of course it was uh... this guy who should be a d one soccer player and i was just like right crazy soccer and go slide tackle and send the hospital and he's in the last time he's the cool thing and he's my k-looks up and he's dead on do this bullshit and i was like i guess it was shit but uh... he said i want to do something i was like i don't need a man but we we can't leave they don't have people there and uh... i ripped a shot
[SPEAKER_05]: just to do it like, you know, old school and like, it is like riding a bike.
[SPEAKER_05]: You sort of remember the techniques and everything else and the coaches like Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, yeah, you know, still got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Woke up the next morning.
[SPEAKER_05]: I felt like I was going to die.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought a line straight line down the right side of my back, where I was like, holy chef.
[SPEAKER_05]: Fashion wasn't ready for that same football and everything else.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I think as you, you know,
[SPEAKER_05]: get older, you've got to change your exercise and all that other stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously, you're diet too.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to play the long game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just actually linked up with a dude in back in North Carolina that does functional fitness stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And just like telling your goals, what do you want to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm in my mid-forties now, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I want core strength and I want lower back strength mostly is what I'm looking for and to stay relatively lean because you don't want to be carrying more weight around that you need to.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty easy goal to train for.
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is we all have like these
[SPEAKER_01]: most what most people do is what they've always done when it comes to working out.
[SPEAKER_01]: They go back to whatever's familiar for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I understand that because there's a lot of stupid shit out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you look at liver king, the stupid way out of these rubber bands up and he's like trying to do crunches with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck are you doing, man?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not that's nothing, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: fitness is not very complicated.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a list of foods and an amount of them that you need to eat and a couple like generalized exercises or targets for strength that you need to hit and that's pretty much it man.
[SPEAKER_01]: These people that are trying to sell you the super complex plans are full of shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm thirty four.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's pretty much just about beach muscles.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, buys, tries chest abs, and then I kind of go home after that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing else really exists, but you know, when I get to his age, obviously, I'll probably do some more serious stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, whose age is not right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're like ten years older than me.
[SPEAKER_05]: So when I get there, I'll, you know, I'll consider it, but unless you're reversing, then you're going to get there never.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, look, uh, my birth certificate was lost in a fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, parents were Nigerian long story.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to get into it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I came over.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird how your birth certificate was lost in a fire, but that one dude's passport was at the base of nine eleven attack.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, isn't that strange?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's really strange, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it just came over in a raft.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, duct tape myself to a Hawaiian punch rafts traveled over from Africa and it made it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look, I'm not better than you, I'm not saying I am, obviously.
[SPEAKER_05]: But what would you recommend as you get older as far as diet wise?
[SPEAKER_05]: What's the biggest thing that men can do?
[SPEAKER_05]: Dan always preaches protein, stakes, chicken, protein and fat, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So your body needs salt to carry water in your bloodstream and it needs fat to carry nutrients in your bloodstream.
[SPEAKER_01]: So drink a lot of water, eat protein and fat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's pretty simple.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I like protein.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, you were this close to calling a goddamn liar.
[SPEAKER_05]: You were this close.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I can tell by the, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you recommend?
[SPEAKER_02]: What I recommend is I like protein.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at, you know, I still for most people, probably keep it a little leaner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now when we talk about red meats and red meats do get vilified and this is where I think some of that confusion occurs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is are we talking just, you know, some hamburger or are we talking like L or we talking bison?
[SPEAKER_02]: We talk here there's quality of the red meat.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't I don't equate those two is the same, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So so when I have people looking at, you know, getting their red meat in, especially in Texas, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm going buy some going now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to get more wild game, you know, chicken a lot of fish.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just not a factory stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know mega three fatty acids great for the brain as we age and then you know fruits vegetables and what you have most people's they age with the carbohydrates is you have to respect them and you probably you're going to cut back a lot like you don't need that many carbohydrates.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you recommend per day?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, carbless you know
[SPEAKER_02]: For most, it depends.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate to say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It depends on what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would, I go with like a forty thirty thirty split, like percentage loss, you know, forty percent carbs, thirty percent fat, thirty percent protein.
[SPEAKER_02]: but I mean, for most, two hundred grams or less, you know a day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, depending on, but if you're running, if you're, you know, if you're doing rocking, if you're doing like all the troughs, then that's gonna go up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Delco, you were about to chill.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say, can I give you my current macros and I'll have you, uh, tell me about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, go for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got, two thousand, two hundred and seventy five calories total.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, two hundred and twenty five grams of protein, one hundred and seventy five grams of protein, seventy five grams of fat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, two hundred and twenty five grams of carbs.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, protein.
[SPEAKER_02]: You say protein to say five grams.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm two hundred and twenty pounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so you're going about a gram per pound.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean that's that's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then what do you do for extra?
[SPEAKER_00]: lift weights and cardio and what's your goal currently I am trying to when he's in a competition with my girlfriend from now until September to see who gets abs first which she can get abs in a week it wasn't that wasn't the contest is just body composition just like redo the body and yeah yeah if it's just if it's just comp now if you told me hey I want to you know break my PR and a ten k now that's corporate hydrates
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I'm manipulating.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like you have to earn your car behind rates.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just simple rule body building.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, body building.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so start.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good advice start from your goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like your body building.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're just a
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the contest, really.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, gosh, gosh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: The most dramatic drastic change of the two bodies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're like a dad and your goal is to be able to be active with your kids, that should be, you should, that should be your focal point, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's, that's my whole goal to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I was kidding earlier, but that's, that's all.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Dernson, lower back strength and core strength is really why I guess that's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But in Dernson, core strength should be your primary focus, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else is just vanity.
[SPEAKER_01]: A Jill point.
[SPEAKER_02]: People forget about agility.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kids, they're squirrely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got three.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get to be able to move, you get to be able to cut, you get to stabilize your stuff for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just so you don't like people are getting more and more joint.
[SPEAKER_01]: problems these days because especially like I I like that CrossFit happened because it made Being in shape cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But you got to calm the fuck down do right with these herkid jerky motions Yes, it's not good for you Olympic lifting is a sport with itself.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is so and it's not made for people that are hundred sixty pounds
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, and just to, you know, again, doing it on the weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of joint health.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do you guys do call a channel?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what do you do for you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I just smoke him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: You left that right there for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you left it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was for you for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I take collagen and colostrum and a number of other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: How much collagen do you take?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I would have to look at the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I take two scoops in the morning and coffee.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, uh, bunny grams.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bubbs and assholes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you take, Sean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sean's good buddy, mine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, um, they're one of their scientific advisors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sean's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the college and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the research is compelling there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you think most.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then now with some of the, they don't have a marine collagen, but like, not like the fish, not, you know, the service members.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some stuff with brain health in the college and like so.
[SPEAKER_05]: make sense right yeah yeah that's interesting uh and then as far as uh the future of the military is concerned uh are you working with them at all are you keep an eye on it still I do I I do some you know I do some
[SPEAKER_02]: contracting work and it's just work with a human performance company that works with government agencies and military.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I keep my finger on the polls and then I've still got friends and I just retired in September.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, pretty recent.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, anyway, I can, I'm obviously, you know, like Dan, I'm sure you're the same way, or even, you know, you were all being around the community.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you're still passionate about it and so anyway, I can help and move it along to kind of help that community.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: What about, um, so the new rage, I guess, and it's kind of been a slow build since the middle, twenty-tends, but, uh, new tropics and peptides, you know, and there's a lot of noise out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of good stuff that has some pretty decent research behind it, you know, uh, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: C.J.C.T.B.B.E.C.
[SPEAKER_01]: stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of stuff out there that can really help you improve.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of stupid bullshit, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the nicotine was a big one as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: We took the nicotine out of the harmful stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's still an addictive chemical, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we took it out to remove the harmful part.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, OK, can we actually get the benefit from this without the stupid shit?
[SPEAKER_01]: run down some of your thoughts and some of that stuff because there's a lot of weird noise out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: The peptides are very promising.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a lot of friends and colleagues who've used them in like the recovery with like the BPC one five seven but the Wolverine peptide.
[SPEAKER_01]: I take what is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: BPC and TB five hundred together I think is the combo I take.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little bit of a scaredy pants because it's still in that research phase.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't feel comfortable yet with knowing that, hey, I'm getting some stuff that's not going to make other things grow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm on the fence.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could be swayed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could change.
[SPEAKER_02]: I might dip my toe in the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for right now, I think it's very exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we'd roll it out across the military.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many things basic stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about with the vitamin D, the food, like basic stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: even to the point about testosterone, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have a lot of guys talk to me about like TRT and it'd be like, man, my testosterone's low and it's like, well, they drink a lot of alcohol.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're sleep shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're diet shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't exercise.
[SPEAKER_02]: And your testosterone's in the tank.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not surprised.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's try to move those big rocks and then once you get there then we start you know other eat your dinner first and then you desert afterwards.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean if you're like again if you're not solving for these hardware problems then there's nothing certainly you can supplement and your numbers will look good, but you I promise you I've been through it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You still feel like shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah Who is it Kirk parsley, you know Kirk?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is an objective fact that you're testosterone rebuilds over a regenerate overnight, as your sleep.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you've got to hit that stage three stage four sleep for that to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the best way to tell if you got good sleep aside from that little ring or fucking wristband is if you've got a fucking hard on when you wake up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the best way to tell, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's your meter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did I sleep well tonight?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: There we go, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're not taking care of those low hang of fruit things, you shouldn't even consider starting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Your car's uh, puttering down the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I should do is add ninety three octane gas to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, what you should do is fucking grab what's wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, put the rims on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's yours?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what you got to do first is fix the systemic issues.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you're still low, then go treat it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But we do we've done all this backwards because it's easier to take an injection than it is to eat healthy or fucking sleep like a normal person.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's why everybody wants to go to supplements.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, hey, I love supplements.
[SPEAKER_02]: I take supplements.
[SPEAKER_02]: I find the research, you know, I love reading about these, you know, little studies that if you take this here, it'll improve your speed here because I also work with athletes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm always looking for that edge, but yeah, for most people, it's the basics, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: take some omega-three fatty acids right your brains mostly deck a hoxinoc acid which dHA and the EPA the creatine right for creatine monohydrate for strength for muscle mass but also cognitive performance vitamin D for most people a D three supplement
[SPEAKER_02]: with K-II, because that's going to help as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's the absorption.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, where it's going to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: No vitamin K. By the way, so yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Special K. Special K. Well, I mean, and that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then maybe some magnesium for sleep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you know, it's not like the whole, the whole gamut.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, if you're doing some stuff that's more anaerobic, then I might look at betaalanine, you know, there's some other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would say the big,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, one's the big rocks to move for dietary supplements, creatine monohydrate, vitamin D, omega-three fatty acids.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, get your levels checked before you do any of that shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not because, like, I don't think, taking a normal, taken in normal doses, not that shit's really going to fucking up, but don't waste your time doing something that's not moving the needle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: My creatine levels are always high, no matter what, so I don't even bother taking that shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need a lot of meat?
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the other thing supplementing with a wooden doing anything right right if you have a high like meat diet No, create team on a hydrate probably isn't going to lose the needle a bit much but like I had a but the fiber of does but the fiber the magnesium really helps all that other stuff that I don't necessarily get like my iron's good my creatines good, but some of this other stuff I have to supplement so yeah, so individual based yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this, by the way, I've said this before, but there's good reason, because I do eat, I mean, I'm at like one point two per body weight, basically, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: One point two grams per body, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a super mouth, but of protein.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is really good research that shows high protein diet without the right kind of fiber, that is to say primarily vegetable and fruit fiber.
[SPEAKER_01]: will increase your risk of prostate cancer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously it does because that fiber binds your fucking waist together and pushes it out of your body.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want Elvis ass, which is what I call it, which is like a meat sweater.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want Elvis ass, which is like a meat sweater up inside your asshole when you die, constipated on the toilet, then you better eat some fucking fiber as much as I hate to admit that vegetables are
[SPEAKER_01]: not completely useless.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because occasionally I'll see you eat them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I like them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the point.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never not like vegetables.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a bioavailability of the factory farm vegetables you get today are terrible, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is another thing that I wanted to ask you about.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have
[SPEAKER_01]: This, what is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sixty-five Charlie, you're saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the AOC.
[SPEAKER_02]: The area of concentration for dieting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't say AOC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I
[SPEAKER_01]: But Avocado is up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like nine grams of fiber per avocado or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that off the top of my head.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, broccoli is good.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to know why.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or if it would even be possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like creating new federal jobs or federal power.
[SPEAKER_01]: But within the DOD, why don't we have farming?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why aren't we creating MOS for people creating food for the unit?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or at least, you know, at Fort Benning and Bragg and wherever the fuck outs find some local farmers in the area and give them a federal contract.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you you exclusively provide food for this base now.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because micro farming is a huge thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You vertical farming.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that was one of the things.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was able to do a research study in Afghanistan with one of the special operation groups.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, some of those like really austere environments they were at.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were not getting fruits of vegetables.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: As you can imagine, it was like straight MREs and stuff they could air drop an old process.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was an issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we were looking at like, can we take a conx?
[SPEAKER_02]: right and you know make you know hydroponics and have microgreens and things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would love to see that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's great because you know food security we take it for granted.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we take it for granted, but we could be in an environment where we no longer have that, and that would be problematic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Soldiers win battles, logistics win wars, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And food and energy security are both national security.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just straight up as how it is, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why we haven't, like, I've never heard anybody even talk about this stuff outside of what you were.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard of that thing because my buddy was Charlie over in Afghanistan and they were like planting clover fields to build air strips and stuff to keep the dust down and all kinds of clever stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, why don't you guys just bring a conics full of shitting?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, somebody tried that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard of that off here before, but they never really implemented it at a larger scale.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now maybe it's not cost-effective, but
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, well, that's why like the micro greens would probably be the way they're like you couldn't grow on full on vegetables.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, but you could ship those vertical towers over in a couple of quad cons and just like leave them there and pour water on them.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would that would be a major with UV lights and shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not very difficult because you wouldn't want to use local soil, especially in a lot of very fucking.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the other thing people forget about is like, or those plants are going to have a lot of lead.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to have a lot of heavy metals in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't use the soil water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or even honey, like even then, like the bees.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything to collect, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or emories, actually good for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: They get a bad rap.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to hear, you know, I'll give my bias in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I worked the labs in Nadek where they, where they made the, the meals ready to eat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I was actually at one point, a part of my job was to review the nutrition information for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they really are a scientific feat when you think about them for how long they can, they can stay there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially the winner ones that have like, forty five hundred calories of some shit like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll frame it this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: For what they're meant to do, they do a really good job.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there wasn't an interesting study if anybody wants to look it up, we got any nerds on here by a guy, Dr. Phil Carl, where he had people eat soldiers, come in and eat MREs for like, twenty-one days and did all these measurements, looking at their poop, look at all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And their diet quality actually improved because you get to think like a young soldier, their diet is so shitty.
[SPEAKER_02]: When they ate the MREs, they actually took in more fiber and nutrients.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, most of them are skipping the child hole and eating Taco Bells.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the other thing like the frame.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really not bad compared to your diet or maybe how we're eating adult, especially with kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would probably be a step back.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for the average soldier, the MREs are probably a step forward here in a lot of fast food.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not a lot of fiber in there, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it's like a fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we went about what forty days, because we were the first unit deployed in the search.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there was no support element out.
[SPEAKER_01]: We went back in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were into
[SPEAKER_01]: The solder city area and nobody had been there for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were we were bouncing back and forth to Todd you a little bit and we did have our our kitchen people with us, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we get one meal a day, but for the most part we were just in our reason that that meal stuffed it and start for like a couple of weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my poops were huge and hard and it sucked, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I believe in, you know, if anybody can check me on this, it's twelve grams per MRE of fiber.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, if you eat three a day, you're probably getting more than the average, like American.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why your poops were hard was probably hydration.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the best thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That could be it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, the dehydration.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you take in fiber, you also got a drink plenty of water, or you're going to have hard poops.
[SPEAKER_02]: What was the weight of them?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember that?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I do weigh all of my posts now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not kidding.
[SPEAKER_01]: So every time I go take a shit, I go on the scale first and when I pass to all the time, just for a font because I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you want to know and then I'll sing a little jingle to myself like a pound of piss for example.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your record like what's the
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like two point eight pounds, something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a twelve pound brisket in my sink right now, thawing out.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to get cooked sometime in the next couple days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that going to be the PR?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to take place.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to try it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's like that episode of South Park.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to see the shoot for.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, I'm not going to do any more PRs in my life unless it involves me pooping.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I'm just I'm done with that part of my life.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had a college roommates back in the day who was just curious about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's all the story before, but it was long and hard.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it was like man, this is a good ten to eleven inches.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just wanted to know what the weight of it was.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, they just reached in and grabbed it like a bear grabbing a salmon right out of the stream in Alaska and
[SPEAKER_05]: I said, what was the reaction of it, you know, and he goes, let's softer than I thought.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it looks like he thought it was solid in his hand.
[SPEAKER_05]: It just went right through his hands and he was disappointed.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's why you have to look at the fore and after, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like your technique.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more standard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I recommend dance technique.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he wanted to know the answer because how many times have you took a shit and physically grabbed it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero, would you ever do that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not a curiosity.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you do it the way that you weigh baby animals.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You weigh yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you pick them up and you step back on the scale.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you do math.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I know is hard.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, look, uh, it cured his curiosity.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's never done it again.
[SPEAKER_05]: By the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not something you do a second time if you plan on staying out of a mental institution.
[SPEAKER_05]: If it was
[SPEAKER_05]: weighty enough and it had enough, you know, togetherness, some cohesion to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you don't doubt on the side of a hill or something, then pick it up, that'd be one thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But once it gets rehydrated, that's game over.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not gonna work.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I was hard in the first place, according to the doc.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess there's a lot of times in my life where I wish I could shit on the man's and then throw it at a human.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a monkey?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a monkey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an extreme.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you think about how our because our digestive system is very similar to a primate, any primate, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all basically the same in the way that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of discipline on for monkeys to be able to just kind of sit back and hold it, knowing there might be an opportunity to shit in your hand.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm never thought that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it doesn't not imply intent the fact that they got angry, you know what boom boom and also weren't we all you know eight so one point so At least reaction was natural.
[SPEAKER_05]: We still are kind of freaked out about we just don't have hair.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you kind of freaked out about that story, but it's kind of going back to the primal days.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's he's in a new line of medicine now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, liver cancer says stay primal
[SPEAKER_05]: And I believe that.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think you got to do it every week.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's some, you know, there's folks out there researching like animal poop.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then if you have humans ingest it, could you, you know, do certain things to your bacteria and your gut that might be beneficial.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't recommend it, but it's, so there's, there was a group looking at the Boston Marathoners.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so did you ever see that study?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where they, they took the faster runners versus the slower runners and they looked in their poop and they, they found that this one bacteria V and L was much higher in the faster runners and they found that this bacteria would take like to cast it and transition to the short chain fatty acid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, really?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, instead of getting the sore, you fucking get energy into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: So because of that, you know, there's a company that makes it and sells it for athletes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so there's this whole stream of research and then there's just like one crazy guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a sports illustrator article about him.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's always one asshole who went, who went and started like, looking at like lions and cheetahs because he's like, Oh, well, they're really fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see about like, what's in there?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sell it to humans.
[SPEAKER_01]: But lions and cheetahs don't have a lot of endurance though.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of stupid to be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a gazelle be a more fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that would be a better.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like everything is changing so rapidly now that's you know there's always a new fat a new thing a new yes this you should do that it's just like social things so
[SPEAKER_01]: We forget the stoics exist and we do a bunch of stupid shit and let it interfere with our lives and then we remember the stoics exist and go back to the basics.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the future though, it's going to be a lot more personalized for for individuals.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like you guys are doing blood work is huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to see blood work explode in the next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like everybody's going to be doing blood work to determine their nutrition levels.
[SPEAKER_02]: Salabary markers are coming along.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're they're getting quite promising.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stools.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you guys have ever done a stool study like the bacteria.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was having, though, I was having really, bro, I was having pretty serious gut problems and Gabrielle is a, she has a team that has, that does gut the Peter Roth, that was my doctor, gut health stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had H.P.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lori, which I've had often on since I was a kid and it comes back from time to time.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that, exactly?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I don't know, it just makes sure, it creates like height or hernion, like that, it makes your body produce more stomach acid and shoot it out, like acid reflux and shit like that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I had three additional parasites that pretty much only come from the Middle East and you can see it a lot of guys that deploy over there and I had apparently had that since two thousand seven right this whole time So you take drugs to kill that shit and you take stuff to rebuild your gut by own afterwards.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah completely changes the way I've so since I
[SPEAKER_01]: Since I got out of the recovery and into the maintenance period, I just lost ten pounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't change anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, yeah, my body just started actually processing the shit that I was eating.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how you absorb protein.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what do you, how does this test look like?
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm shit in a jar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, shitting to the turlet and scoop it out into a little thing, and then you do a, what's the one where you blow into the seabull?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a seabull.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's a seabull.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You blow into this thing a bunch of different times in a specific way, and then you do a saliva as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the one I did, which is even nicer, like any of our, is literally, it's a wipe.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you just wipe, like you would, you put it a little bow, you shake it up, send it off.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it'll it'll give your whole like afterwards what you're saying white afterwards.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you shouldn't do you shouldn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're wiping first and then pooping your what's what's the.
[SPEAKER_02]: Help me understand that cleaner exit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's the point is to clean the exit not to have a cleaner exit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it helps it both.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not trying to keep the paper clean to try to keep your asshole clean.
[SPEAKER_05]: You never know.
[SPEAKER_05]: You never know how big it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's some where you can feel it inside and you're like holy shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: This might I might pop a stitch on this one.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I know what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: That wipe will kind of loop it up and get it out of there a little bit easier and you're prepping the objective.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, battlefield preparation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can tell someone's been stewing in their old day where you're just like, all right, someone's in the kitchen with Dina.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, and then yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know this is gonna be a hard one for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, those grips because there's there's a few times you head down on a handicapped stall, but you're like, I've got a hold on to something.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, this is gonna be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always hold on to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always hold on and I put my feet up on the door.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just in case.
[SPEAKER_02]: But go get it, get microbiome test.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you definitely should.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy and there's no reason not.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I got like, mine was not, mine was serious because we're really trying to figure out what's going on in my gut health.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like a standard one is probably more aligned that line.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably not going to be doing the CBO test and all the other mission.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you need to, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for me, it's just no one kind of, okay, what's the diversity in my gut?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, hey, count cannot optimize it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: if you can't eat stuff that helps, you know, lower the ratio of the bad stuff and increase the good stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then there's like small things too, like, I hate to even
[SPEAKER_01]: It meant that the trend had some substance to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But apple cider vinegar before you eat helps control insulin levels, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Now there's ways to, yeah, there's ways to, there's ways to, I take those gummies from bubs natural.
[SPEAKER_01]: I take those in the before my meal, I actually take a little shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's apple juice, apple cider vinegar and ginger mixed together.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you do like the order of your food?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you pay attention to that?
[SPEAKER_01]: The order that I eat it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that can talk about that as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you have, it's like a standard thing is like chicken rice broccoli.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I eat the broccoli and the chicken before I eat the rice,
[SPEAKER_02]: more stable blood glucose release versus if you start with a carbohydrate and this has been shown and not so I read the study on my no way so I got to continue as glucose monitor me and another nerd that I know and we tried it yeah hundred percent works so the name of order again so start with the fibrous vegetable and the protein before you go to the carbohydrate just keep that rule so so in in the study it was it was chicken broccoli rice
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, you could go to Olive Garden and it could be, you know, pasta, chicken, and, you know, kale.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, they don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have kale there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: So have your pretty good memories.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're fucking better.
[SPEAKER_02]: How is that apple?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it actually makes sense to eat a salad before you eat your dinner.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always do it actually any time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do, but you see, you do it years.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: They always bring bread first.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then salad, not the meat, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we need to start our own restaurant or at least start a trend for restaurants where a salad first, then bread, then whatever, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or just some bad stuff usually comes first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just like a little vegetable turn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, I mean, the Midwest does it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They got a relish tray, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you go to like a what do you call it?
[SPEAKER_01]: A supper club in the Midwest, like it was constant or somewhere like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a steak house.
[SPEAKER_01]: They call it a supper club, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: They instead of bringing you out bread usually bring out this relish tray and it's a bunch of pickled vegetables.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love pickles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you could.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's with the craze right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is fucking pickled because it's delicious.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you talk well, it's hated.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's delicious and also the get microbiome.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the probiotics.
[SPEAKER_05]: You get some defense and there vinegar helps out a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I went to my oldest loves Popeyes.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a Popeyes up the street.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's just open.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know it's white.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a huge shock.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that what he looked at me shocked?
[SPEAKER_02]: a little chick-flate not chick-flate now.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know chick-flate was closed because it's okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so anyways, he wanted to lemonade and the guy had misunderstood me or it's just your typical Popeye's worker.
[SPEAKER_05]: Either one's fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was it was a pickled lemonade that came out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, saw that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a whole line of new piglets.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a pickle fucking disgusted.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a chicken sandwich that's like marinated in pickle, which makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like marinating chicken and pickle juice is a really good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what shit flight us.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a listener who brought it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is their secret.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pickles vodka.
[SPEAKER_04]: So shots of vodka.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not the thing in the Midwest.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's huge as a pickle back.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get a shot of Jamison and then a fucking shot of pickle juice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jamison pickle juice.
[SPEAKER_01]: No fucking delish.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, she tried it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very good.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just not like I like pickles in general, but
[SPEAKER_05]: I like them separate.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to grasp.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to mix and match.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want that involved in alcohol or lemonade or any of that other bullshit, but here in particular, I'm seeing it pop up everywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's two of the point where my kid is even said like there's these pickled chips though, and I'll just pick it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pickled chips are not new.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, there's a lot to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a company that makes like pickle shots for athletes for like the sodium, the electrolytes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: You see my airports now just for the electrolytes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of like liquid IV or something like that or element, it's just pickle juice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: No shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of them's probably gonna taste best and work best for you, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Based on what your flavor, like your the flavor receptors you have and what you're deficient in, typically, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's what your body's gonna crave.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're deficient in shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bio mechanism to tell you what the fuck it eat.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, don't get locked in on one particular thing, as I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Find out what's best for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a gun, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I carry a sick fuse now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got an OA defense on the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got clocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should go to the range and see if they have rentals and go through the brands.
[SPEAKER_01]: A clock, a sig, whatever the fuck, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And see which one feels best in your hand, and that's the gun that you should buy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not if it's the caught out of your Texan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a defense is pretty far ahead of Chicago, in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the company actually had people that are gunfighters working for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know about the title.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know much about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out of my deck on this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just know that's like a local.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of our buddies, that guy's out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good, they're, they're good company.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just prefer the, uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody's got their favorites.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm saying, well, that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good point.
[SPEAKER_01]: The way it feels in my hand, I like better.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally so far as I'm not an engineer.
[SPEAKER_01]: As far as I know, shooting the thing, it feels better with one and the other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you've actually caught it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're about the same cost, I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: Same way with picking out a wife, you know?
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to find out what feels best.
[SPEAKER_05]: What feels right is what my grandfather used to say.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, P, obviously, but yeah, he said, if it feels right, it must be okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then,
[SPEAKER_05]: It usually take off my clothes.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm kidding.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now's the point of the show we get to the drink and bro the week, which is someone who inspires you or helps you become the person you are today, who would you like to give the drink and bro the week to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go with a guy named Martin Rooney.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a great coach, friend, mentor, I'm on and yeah, he taught me a lot and still teaches me a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: What does he teach you today?
[SPEAKER_02]: What does he teach me?
[SPEAKER_02]: How to present, how to think about training, how to think about human performance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And do you have a website where people can follow you or Instagram?
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Nick Behringer.com, just got that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Nick Behringer.phd.rdn on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so if they go to that Instagram account and people take pictures of those shits and then send it to you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I will interpret it for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: You will.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just like reading tea leaves.
[SPEAKER_01]: He moves it around on the table and tells you your future.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so Bob, if you want to go ahead and pop that in the audio description, that'd be great.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then send all your huge, huge shit picks.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is going to be awesome to the doctor there and then he'll kind of tell you what you're going through.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bob,
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you should let him go to the bathroom with you afterwards, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bob, you and you actually probably need to talk to Bob because he has to take a shit after every episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that, I mean, he's probably doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's bodies on a rhythm.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to fly up and sand.
[SPEAKER_02]: There he goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: He should look at his microbiome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Should you be shitting at a certain time every day?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, you're on a circadian rhythm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a shit schedule?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's whatever that coffee hits in the morning, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's your schedule.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same for me, like I wake up, make coffee, and somewhere between ending the first coffee and the ending the second coffee.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I get to see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the same schedule.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably most people.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're saying this.
[SPEAKER_01]: To be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're synced up, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the weird.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of like women on the periods do we're all synced up now.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to show together for years.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can be a study.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can see.
[SPEAKER_05]: You want us to sit side by side?
[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of doose have a doose off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's like I've people think that I have a glory hole, but it's way bigger than I what the fuck I might know.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's for hold in hands.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we can reach through kind of thumb on Louise it for support.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: We call that the thumb on Louise in the and the shit biz.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, who's using the urinal?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I just saw a urinal in a toilet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's not here.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's in the other area.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's in my house.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, we don't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Jared Taylor right from black rifle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know who he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he's got one.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a bathroom with two toilets facing each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: That way you can hold both hands, but you got a cross grip.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got a cross grip with your love.
[SPEAKER_02]: It shows that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He designed it that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: He built it himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Along with a big gem that is got Mark Walberg all over it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Jim is called Mark Hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Mark Hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every every every like shirtless photo Mark Walberg's ever taken is in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's every square inch of the Jim's shirtless Mark Walberg.
[SPEAKER_05]: But the the dueling toilets is
[SPEAKER_05]: For his wife.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what he meets when he meets the girl of his dreams like if you can go I'll tell he'll know Yeah, it's like Arthur with the sword and the stone Yep, that's how they determined the king of England He'll determine his wife based on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She can maintain eye contact through a mutual dump and he hasn't found the wife yet No, no, it's not okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not remarried yet.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see Okay, first wife wasn't into it So Brad look it breaks up a lot of the second one was either actually
[SPEAKER_05]: Was there a second one?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wait, see ya on three?
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, the next one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the next one will be the third, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So.
[SPEAKER_05]: Got damn it.
[SPEAKER_05]: You learned something every day.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Typically, Bob, you can submit to drinkingbrows.com.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to tell you guys the Gulf of America shirts have been taken down?
[SPEAKER_05]: We got suit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of them still.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're waiting, we're letting Shopify take care of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like one of those things where I'm not going to admit anything until they accuse me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Head on over and grab it if it's still there, but uh... yeah apparently somebody got a trademark in two thousand sixteen yeah for girls on there yes yes yes yes yes you know how funny would it be if it was trump himself i wouldn't be mad i would be here if we got a call like hey
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey guys, huge fan.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: That would be hilarious if that was true.
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