WEBVTT 00:00.171 --> 00:10.719 [SPEAKER_00]: This episode of True's Table is brought to you by our NAACP Image Award-nominated book, True's Table, Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation. 00:11.140 --> 00:12.641 [SPEAKER_00]: Get it where all books are sold. 00:16.150 --> 00:17.491 [SPEAKER_01]: Brothers, y'all all right? 00:17.871 --> 00:21.113 [SPEAKER_01]: If this is your first time at truth's table, welcome to the table. 00:21.313 --> 00:23.835 [SPEAKER_01]: And you've been sitting at the table with us all these years. 00:24.115 --> 00:27.257 [SPEAKER_01]: We are so grateful that you have been listening to us through these years. 00:27.338 --> 00:33.782 [SPEAKER_01]: And we are inviting you to partner with us and support our work at patreon.com slash truth's table. 00:34.082 --> 00:37.064 [SPEAKER_01]: Now pull up a chair and have a seat at the table with us. 00:37.644 --> 00:39.105 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey y'all, welcome to truth's table. 00:39.145 --> 00:40.606 [SPEAKER_01]: May wise and call to forgiveness. 00:40.666 --> 00:41.327 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the enemy. 00:41.827 --> 00:42.448 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm Christina. 00:42.988 --> 00:45.529 [SPEAKER_01]: This table is the Bible Act woman of four black women. 00:45.549 --> 00:46.530 [SPEAKER_01]: So welcome to the table. 00:46.570 --> 00:47.671 [SPEAKER_01]: See how you're doing. 00:48.451 --> 00:49.572 [SPEAKER_00]: I am doing it. 00:49.832 --> 00:50.252 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 00:50.312 --> 00:59.818 [SPEAKER_00]: We are in the throes of summer and you know I I know you and I talk a lot about whether on the show because we are people who rather impacts the mood all the things but 01:01.505 --> 01:02.546 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it, is it just me? 01:02.586 --> 01:04.466 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it too hot in the country right now? 01:04.987 --> 01:05.747 [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't it too hot? 01:06.067 --> 01:06.627 [SPEAKER_00]: Some drops. 01:06.647 --> 01:06.887 [SPEAKER_00]: Some drops. 01:06.907 --> 01:07.348 [SPEAKER_00]: Some drops. 01:07.548 --> 01:07.908 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 01:08.188 --> 01:09.148 [SPEAKER_00]: It's getting hot here. 01:09.188 --> 01:12.330 [SPEAKER_01]: And like AC had the nerve to break at the start of the heat wave. 01:12.930 --> 01:13.250 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course. 01:14.911 --> 01:15.952 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand that. 01:16.112 --> 01:16.812 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a problem. 01:17.212 --> 01:21.518 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I really, I'm actually grateful because this summer's been weird. 01:21.778 --> 01:25.183 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a lot of, it's been a, it was giving our tober last lift. 01:25.243 --> 01:26.144 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's gratitude. 01:26.204 --> 01:27.586 [SPEAKER_00]: I knew a couple of weeks back. 01:27.606 --> 01:28.867 [SPEAKER_00]: You were complaining about that. 01:28.967 --> 01:31.631 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, hey, yeah, I'm saying it. 01:33.392 --> 01:34.573 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm grateful. 01:34.733 --> 01:37.333 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm grateful even in the midst of all the heat. 01:38.173 --> 01:47.056 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm most grateful to not only be here at the table with you, but to be at the table with a special guest for coming down resisting series. 01:47.416 --> 01:49.836 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we are still resistant to resist. 01:52.597 --> 01:56.861 [SPEAKER_01]: And we have a special guest, Dr. Daisy N.C. 01:56.981 --> 01:58.302 [SPEAKER_01]: Grant is here at the table. 01:58.362 --> 02:00.004 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the table, Dr. Grant. 02:00.784 --> 02:04.147 [SPEAKER_01]: My goodness, I'm here with Dr. Kennedy, Dr. Scott. 02:04.207 --> 02:06.790 [SPEAKER_02]: Please talk to the guy. 02:06.830 --> 02:08.952 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the table I like to play. 02:09.812 --> 02:17.757 [SPEAKER_02]: I decided to be here with these two brilliant melanin joints in women's garden. 02:17.777 --> 02:21.619 [SPEAKER_02]: So I am just thrilled to be able to share this space with both of you. 02:21.919 --> 02:23.380 [SPEAKER_02]: And thank you for holding space. 02:23.740 --> 02:30.024 [SPEAKER_02]: And thank you for keeping the conversation going about our resistance because God gives us wisdom. 02:30.044 --> 02:30.324 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 02:30.364 --> 02:30.565 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:30.585 --> 02:30.785 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:30.865 --> 02:31.285 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:31.305 --> 02:31.505 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:31.525 --> 02:31.685 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:31.825 --> 02:32.286 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 02:32.406 --> 02:32.626 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:32.646 --> 02:32.946 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:32.966 --> 02:33.246 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 02:33.266 --> 02:33.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 02:33.506 --> 02:33.706 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 02:33.726 --> 02:33.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:34.387 --> 02:34.567 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 02:34.587 --> 02:34.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:34.787 --> 02:35.107 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 02:35.127 --> 02:35.407 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. 02:35.427 --> 02:35.588 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. 02:35.608 --> 02:36.068 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. 02:36.148 --> 02:36.428 [UNKNOWN]: Come on. 02:37.168 --> 02:37.728 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't. 02:37.808 --> 02:38.388 [SPEAKER_00]: I came to you. 02:38.408 --> 02:40.469 [SPEAKER_00]: You've got to let the people know if they don't know. 02:40.889 --> 02:49.091 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that I know that some of our sisters, especially of Zeta Phi Beta Sororian, corporate, and absolutely know who this is and others as well. 02:49.131 --> 02:53.632 [SPEAKER_00]: But would you introduce Dr. Grant properly, or to our audience? 02:53.892 --> 02:55.133 [SPEAKER_01]: You know it's my favorite thing to do. 02:55.393 --> 02:55.873 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on in. 02:57.453 --> 03:06.898 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Stacey N. C. Grant is an award-winning international speaker, Master Facilitator, bestselling author, influencer producer, actor, publisher, and celebrity MC. 03:07.218 --> 03:10.840 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Grant is living her divine calling to lead, teach, and inspire. 03:11.280 --> 03:22.686 [SPEAKER_01]: Describe as God's media ambassador and twenty-first century communicator, she ignites her audiences with her captivating smile, intoxicating humor and boundless energy, and we can attest to that y'all. 03:23.846 --> 03:30.170 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Grant is the founder of Destiny Designers University, the only training and development platform for faith-preneurs. 03:30.531 --> 03:42.178 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a faith-based entrepreneur and faith-based network for professionals who grow their well-generating practices around an affinity to God and faith-encaps, by the way. 03:42.578 --> 03:47.420 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Grant boldly stands at the intersection of faith and profitable business enterprise. 03:47.781 --> 03:51.803 [SPEAKER_01]: Learn more at Destiny Designers University.com. 03:52.243 --> 04:01.467 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Grant is a member of the Board of Trustees of the Met, Metropolitan Museum of Art, and in a room board chair of the workshop in Business Opportunity. 04:01.867 --> 04:10.832 [SPEAKER_01]: On July four, two thousand twenty-two, Dr. Grant became the International President and CEO of Zeta Phi Beta, so let me send it again, sorry. 04:11.452 --> 04:19.495 [SPEAKER_01]: On July, twenty-four, twenty-two, Dr. Grant became the International President and CEO of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority Incorporated. 04:19.815 --> 04:29.518 [SPEAKER_01]: She is the twenty-six president of this one hundred and five-year-old organization with over nine hundred chapters across twelve countries on September eleven, twenty-four. 04:29.938 --> 04:35.420 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Grant was selected as the Vice Chairman of the National Pan-Halanic Council of Presidents. 04:35.700 --> 04:37.461 [SPEAKER_01]: She is also the pastor president of the St. 04:37.501 --> 04:48.124 [SPEAKER_01]: John's University, Black Alumni Association, member of the links, incorporated greater Queens New York chapter and associate member of Jack and Jill of America, the Queens chapter. 04:48.504 --> 04:52.885 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Grant currently resides in Queens in York with her husband and two sons. 04:53.185 --> 04:58.327 [SPEAKER_01]: With God, SR Guide, our global community will be better for her service to humanity. 04:58.427 --> 05:00.227 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the table, Dr. Grant. 05:00.287 --> 05:01.908 [SPEAKER_01]: Doer of all the things. 05:04.109 --> 05:08.911 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you have to come with me on the road for the only next week. 05:09.011 --> 05:12.053 [SPEAKER_02]: You can really tell the system is like this woman is a Jamaican. 05:12.093 --> 05:16.015 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we have a lot of smiles. 05:16.135 --> 05:16.755 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it is. 05:16.795 --> 05:19.476 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, talk about representing fighter womanhood. 05:19.576 --> 05:21.738 [SPEAKER_00]: I am delighted to have you here today. 05:21.758 --> 05:23.198 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is quite a resume. 05:24.159 --> 05:24.919 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, thank you. 05:24.939 --> 05:26.040 [SPEAKER_02]: To that be the glory. 05:26.180 --> 05:28.281 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm clear that as you know, 05:28.801 --> 05:32.243 [SPEAKER_02]: sitting at this table, creating these truth conversations. 05:32.523 --> 05:34.004 [SPEAKER_02]: We have to let people be free. 05:34.124 --> 05:36.286 [SPEAKER_02]: God gave us multiple gift skills and talents. 05:36.586 --> 05:39.588 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody needs to put you in the box and tell you what you can and can do. 05:39.948 --> 05:43.570 [SPEAKER_02]: If God gave it to you, it's for you to multiply, not hide it under the bush. 05:43.610 --> 05:47.472 [SPEAKER_02]: So I had to learn to be unapologetically on me. 05:50.274 --> 05:53.436 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Dr. Grant, you talked about actually just being Jamaican. 05:53.456 --> 05:55.657 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you even talk to us about your origin story? 05:55.717 --> 05:56.017 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 05:56.358 --> 06:01.200 [SPEAKER_01]: So, let's talk to us about your origin story as a Jamaican woman. 06:01.561 --> 06:03.342 [SPEAKER_01]: And then also a woman of safety. 06:03.382 --> 06:04.622 [SPEAKER_01]: How you came to faith? 06:05.163 --> 06:08.865 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, how you sound your way into state to Phi Beta? 06:09.505 --> 06:10.886 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're pretty pretty. 06:11.186 --> 06:12.207 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 06:12.527 --> 06:15.749 [SPEAKER_02]: You're asking me a lot about the things I love to talk about the most. 06:15.789 --> 06:20.791 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I came from a father who was a pan-African, right? 06:20.931 --> 06:26.334 [SPEAKER_02]: When the Marcus Garvey movement is all about knowing who you are and who the back to African movement. 06:26.574 --> 06:27.955 [SPEAKER_02]: My mother not so much, right? 06:27.995 --> 06:29.416 [SPEAKER_02]: She was a little, she has to assimilate. 06:29.456 --> 06:31.757 [SPEAKER_02]: She needs to know what's going on in culture. 06:31.797 --> 06:36.780 [SPEAKER_02]: So, the truth is, I was actually first-gen here in the United States and I went back and forth as a baby. 06:37.200 --> 06:45.061 [SPEAKER_02]: but grew up with my real strong Jamaican heritage, but with an understanding of where we all come from in the diaspora, which is the motherland. 06:45.641 --> 06:55.303 [SPEAKER_02]: And I had an opportunity to be a part of a young adult leadership program in high school that allowed me to dig deep into books like before the Mayflower. 06:55.963 --> 06:57.103 [SPEAKER_02]: There eyes are watching God. 06:57.143 --> 07:05.685 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, things that normal high school students wouldn't be reading on their own and really expose me to understanding who I was. 07:06.245 --> 07:07.626 [SPEAKER_02]: and from whence I came. 07:08.306 --> 07:15.469 [SPEAKER_02]: And couple with that, I was fortunate to have my spiritual mama was my pastor's nine years old from Liberia. 07:15.950 --> 07:22.653 [SPEAKER_02]: So my extended family being from West Africa, Liberia, I know all the food, I know my food for insupma. 07:22.993 --> 07:23.653 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. 07:25.154 --> 07:25.615 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:25.635 --> 07:25.875 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:25.895 --> 07:26.095 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:26.115 --> 07:26.356 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:26.376 --> 07:26.556 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:26.576 --> 07:26.796 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:26.816 --> 07:27.177 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:27.197 --> 07:27.637 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:27.717 --> 07:27.978 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:27.998 --> 07:28.198 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:28.218 --> 07:28.558 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. 07:43.015 --> 07:47.259 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was a blessing to have her, you to go and be with God, be the angel. 07:47.619 --> 07:48.580 [SPEAKER_02]: I miss it every day. 07:49.001 --> 07:56.447 [SPEAKER_02]: But I had the exact opposite on my paternal side, my grandmother on my dad's side died when he was thirteen on the thirteen birthday. 07:56.788 --> 08:02.352 [SPEAKER_02]: So we really didn't have that longevity and family relationship on the paternal side, but guess what? 08:02.713 --> 08:05.075 [SPEAKER_02]: I've always felt this Latina. 08:05.804 --> 08:06.264 [SPEAKER_02]: Pardon me. 08:06.304 --> 08:07.144 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's Coco. 08:07.184 --> 08:08.265 [SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna a little bit of Coco. 08:08.285 --> 08:11.165 [SPEAKER_02]: She comes out every now and then and on that side. 08:12.186 --> 08:15.967 [SPEAKER_02]: We're timing out that they're motivated to make a cubic mix. 08:16.407 --> 08:17.507 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, why not? 08:18.667 --> 08:19.788 [SPEAKER_02]: All the things, right? 08:19.828 --> 08:25.989 [SPEAKER_02]: God made me very uniquely, all of us uniquely formed for what we can all to do. 08:26.069 --> 08:28.450 [SPEAKER_02]: But I embrace all the pieces that have created 08:29.030 --> 08:38.335 [SPEAKER_02]: culturally who I am and how I identify as a woman of color that so many people can relate to because God had a work for me to do. 08:39.095 --> 08:43.137 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know what the work was at five and ten and twenty and thirty. 08:43.517 --> 08:49.260 [SPEAKER_02]: Our job for those of us of faith is understanding that God knows the plans that he has for you. 08:49.620 --> 08:53.762 [SPEAKER_02]: Your job is to build relationship with him so you can get the revelation 08:54.282 --> 08:55.724 [SPEAKER_02]: on what that plan is. 08:55.764 --> 08:59.168 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you walk an alignment with it, then it opens up doors. 08:59.548 --> 09:05.415 [SPEAKER_02]: So that started my journey of understanding who I was and just my fascination with history. 09:05.865 --> 09:14.309 [SPEAKER_02]: and wanting to know more about who we are as a people that we know, we didn't start with the transatlantic slave trade, right? 09:14.329 --> 09:20.311 [SPEAKER_02]: To really go back far enough to understand when and from whence we came and who's we are. 09:20.691 --> 09:29.935 [SPEAKER_02]: And that led me into just a path as I look back over my life that God was setting me up all along the way that I could be in leadership positions that I could be exposed 09:30.275 --> 09:36.040 [SPEAKER_02]: to mentors and to the greats that people sit and say, oh my gosh, I wish I could meet. 09:36.440 --> 09:38.322 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been blessed to be mentored by them. 09:38.642 --> 09:49.951 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone from less brown to Susan Taylor, the Dr. George Frazier, you know, people who have impacted and influenced me and leadership in my organization was something that I did from the time I came in. 09:50.091 --> 09:53.714 [SPEAKER_02]: You said, why did you choose to be a part of a sorority? 09:54.174 --> 09:59.597 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me tell you the truth ladies, I came from a family that didn't know anything about sororities and fraternities. 10:00.117 --> 10:03.438 [SPEAKER_02]: So my introduction to it was school days. 10:03.919 --> 10:07.780 [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, ah, I'm not a jiggle or want to be, so I don't think that's me. 10:08.481 --> 10:09.421 [SPEAKER_02]: This is crazy. 10:09.441 --> 10:10.321 [SPEAKER_02]: Like what are you all doing? 10:10.502 --> 10:11.522 [SPEAKER_02]: It's actually clear. 10:12.082 --> 10:21.507 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had one girlfriend who was talking about an organization because she had family members on associates who were, you know, in the org. 10:21.787 --> 10:22.347 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, ah, 10:23.045 --> 10:24.326 [SPEAKER_02]: I just kind of fan my hand. 10:24.346 --> 10:25.426 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I don't know. 10:25.907 --> 10:30.969 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when I came on the campus, the ladies of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority Corporate weren't tried to recruit me. 10:31.370 --> 10:34.972 [SPEAKER_02]: They were trying to make sure I was assimilating on a predominantly white institution's campus. 10:35.332 --> 10:36.152 [SPEAKER_02]: And that impressed me. 10:36.192 --> 10:38.954 [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, let me see a little bit more about this. 10:38.994 --> 10:39.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me do my research. 10:40.074 --> 10:42.796 [SPEAKER_02]: I had a few interactions with the other organizations. 10:42.956 --> 10:47.619 [SPEAKER_02]: And there was something about Zeta that the humbleness of the ladies. 10:47.659 --> 10:48.599 [SPEAKER_02]: They were very friendly. 10:48.639 --> 10:49.360 [SPEAKER_02]: They were open. 10:50.300 --> 10:51.421 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, they do so much. 10:52.041 --> 11:00.626 [SPEAKER_02]: Why doesn't anybody know about all this great work because people made assumptions that I was going to be a part of other organizations following stereotypes? 11:00.926 --> 11:05.209 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, that's the worst thing to do with me, honey, because I will do the exact opposite of what? 11:07.050 --> 11:07.671 [SPEAKER_02]: that I do. 11:08.171 --> 11:10.594 [SPEAKER_02]: I have been that kind of child from day one. 11:11.155 --> 11:25.230 [SPEAKER_02]: So long story short, after I did my research and decided that this is definitely an opportunity for me not to criticize from the outside, but to become a part of a historical tradition and create change from the inside out. 11:26.031 --> 11:46.922 [SPEAKER_02]: And that opened up my eyes to like, oh my gosh, there's so much between service and scholarship in the bond of sisterhood and then the uniqueness of being constitutionally bound with our brothers of Phi Beta Sigma fraternity incorporated, which didn't mean that they were controlling us and meant that they completed us that from the African tradition, family units are important. 11:47.163 --> 11:49.544 [SPEAKER_02]: So it brings both sides to the table. 11:51.685 --> 11:53.445 [SPEAKER_02]: So that we can grow and talk. 11:54.166 --> 11:59.388 [SPEAKER_02]: And that is what was the fire in my belly to serve our organization. 11:59.448 --> 12:01.349 [SPEAKER_02]: I started on a local level. 12:01.529 --> 12:03.689 [SPEAKER_02]: I ended up being the undergraduate to our board. 12:05.453 --> 12:18.916 [SPEAKER_02]: but three, four years into being a member and who knew the plans that God had for me to sit in this seat today to be the twenty-six woman to carry forth the vision of five courageous college co-eds. 12:19.336 --> 12:20.876 [SPEAKER_02]: Two other organizations existed. 12:21.016 --> 12:31.798 [SPEAKER_02]: What it took for them to have that kind of resolve to say that I believe this to be a divine assignment because they used to tease our founders and call them the praying band. 12:32.138 --> 12:34.019 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they always haven't prayed me to their praying. 12:34.139 --> 12:34.679 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm proud. 12:35.022 --> 12:39.358 [SPEAKER_02]: to be an organization where more than a young, eighteen, nineteen 12:40.253 --> 13:07.133 [SPEAKER_02]: we're getting together on campus the pray for direction to understand that the founding of our organization was built and predicated on a seat that got planted in their hearts from the brothers of five eight of Sigma fraternity incorporated and they could have never had an idea of one hundred and five years later that that same vision would be moving forward transforming lives and over nine hundred chapters across twelve countries on the globe I mean that is 13:07.813 --> 13:10.955 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, God can dream a bigger dream than you can dream. 13:11.256 --> 13:32.011 [SPEAKER_02]: And I get to sit in that seat of their legacy and their dream and carry it forward, knowing that Zeta women, our Mikai, our youth auxiliary Zeta male network, understand what I've challenged us to do, which is embrace the extraordinary power of she, advocating for social justice, health justice, and economic justice at home in a broad. 13:34.445 --> 13:40.787 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an excellent platform, and let me tell you something that you obviously are an excellent representative of Zeta Phi Beta Savordia Incorporate. 13:40.807 --> 13:44.989 [SPEAKER_00]: And I would say just Savordia women in general, so it's a gift to us to have you here. 13:45.809 --> 13:53.392 [SPEAKER_00]: And we think about, I want to use so congruently talk about how your faith informs. 13:54.252 --> 14:01.959 [SPEAKER_00]: your work and your rendering of your God-giving gifts to be duplicated is what I think I heard you say. 14:01.979 --> 14:11.568 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just a reminder to us to not whore what God has given us but to be ready to prepare for those things to be duplicated and to have great impact. 14:12.188 --> 14:17.033 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to go back to the Kimmy's question a bit a bit though because I want to hear a little bit about your faith journey. 14:17.153 --> 14:20.597 [SPEAKER_00]: This rich diasporic, beautiful family that you described. 14:21.498 --> 14:25.442 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to know the role of faith in it and just your journey as a woman. 14:27.262 --> 14:34.147 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, so my grandparents ended up going to two different churches, which I thought was interesting in Jamaica, right? 14:34.187 --> 14:44.535 [SPEAKER_02]: Because we have different faiths and what I've noticed from a child is that we've allowed commercialism to get into our faith traditions, right? 14:44.575 --> 14:53.342 [SPEAKER_02]: Because we're so locked into, I'm Baptist, I'm Methodist, I'm a Piscopalian, instead of being locked into relationship with God. 14:53.702 --> 14:54.783 [SPEAKER_02]: So I watched 14:55.867 --> 14:57.969 [SPEAKER_02]: just different dynamics in my family. 14:58.249 --> 15:11.019 [SPEAKER_02]: And it ended up making my mother turn away from feeling like she had to go to church because it was so much pressure for her as a child growing up that when she was on her own, she kind of opted out. 15:11.340 --> 15:13.021 [SPEAKER_02]: She tapped out a church for a little bit. 15:13.461 --> 15:17.685 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when she met my pastor who has transitioned 15:18.688 --> 15:21.811 [SPEAKER_02]: something change and that spark is wants to see this planet is planted. 15:22.211 --> 15:28.216 [SPEAKER_02]: So my grandparents did plant the seed, but it took a while for her to build her own relationship with God. 15:28.276 --> 15:40.307 [SPEAKER_02]: Now for me, whether she was going or not, that didn't make a difference to my grandmother because my tail was in Sunday school every single Sunday with my grandmother, going to her church with my cousins. 15:40.807 --> 15:45.952 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I would get them in trouble because they would fall asleep and I would tell, you know, wait my hand at the quiet level, I was a mess. 15:47.062 --> 15:53.607 [SPEAKER_02]: But I was to go and develop learning the books of the Bible and that Sunday school experience wasn't important to me. 15:53.667 --> 15:59.171 [SPEAKER_02]: So even though my mother wasn't going at that time, I was still being exposed to who God was. 15:59.471 --> 16:05.696 [SPEAKER_02]: And then when she started going to church and I started going with her, I was going to church because that's what we did. 16:06.056 --> 16:14.062 [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of times you go to church as a child because you don't have a choice, especially if you come from a strong Christian, West Indian background, you're going to church where you like it or not. 16:14.863 --> 16:22.552 [SPEAKER_02]: And I had to get to the point where I wasn't coming to church because my mother was making me, I was coming to church because I fell in love with Jesus. 16:22.632 --> 16:26.576 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I need to know who he was for myself, right? 16:27.017 --> 16:31.542 [SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't, you just have to be here and pretend. 16:31.642 --> 16:32.663 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think a lot of times, 16:33.484 --> 16:39.472 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't give that organic opportunity for that growth for a young person to really just know God loves you. 16:39.833 --> 16:44.619 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a coolest thing around like he's not just gonna knock you upside the head if you do something wrong. 16:44.920 --> 16:45.521 [SPEAKER_02]: He loves you. 16:45.561 --> 16:46.923 [SPEAKER_02]: He wants you to learn from your mistakes. 16:46.943 --> 16:47.864 [SPEAKER_02]: He wants to forgive you. 16:48.214 --> 16:49.475 [SPEAKER_02]: from the evils of the world. 16:50.075 --> 16:56.080 [SPEAKER_02]: And there was a point in college where I was going out, you know, it's college. 16:56.120 --> 16:57.541 [SPEAKER_02]: You all go out and have a good time. 16:57.861 --> 17:02.425 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I was singing in the choir, getting in like, oh, okay, I gotta get to church. 17:02.465 --> 17:06.668 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you in church and you're nodding like, okay, Lord, you got that guy for the songs. 17:06.708 --> 17:07.309 [SPEAKER_02]: We get enough. 17:07.769 --> 17:13.874 [SPEAKER_02]: And my pastor said to me, you should be bringing your friends in, not them taking you out. 17:14.454 --> 17:15.595 [SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have to choose. 17:16.636 --> 17:17.096 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sir. 17:17.557 --> 17:17.997 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, 17:19.233 --> 17:20.454 [SPEAKER_01]: This, she just comfort me. 17:20.914 --> 17:22.856 [SPEAKER_02]: But it was, it was a reckoning, right? 17:22.956 --> 17:27.239 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a moment to say, I can't live to lives, right? 17:27.359 --> 17:36.166 [SPEAKER_02]: Either has served God or I serve man and it's not to say that you can't have a good time or you can't go out and socialize with your friends. 17:36.607 --> 17:39.409 [SPEAKER_02]: But what are you making Lord over your life? 17:39.669 --> 17:41.211 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just mastering you. 17:41.271 --> 17:49.561 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're so consumed that you have to be at every party, everything, it takes away from you having time to really build relationship with God. 17:49.881 --> 17:52.164 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was a turning point in my faith journey. 17:52.184 --> 17:54.546 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like, oh my goodness, I'm convicted. 17:55.487 --> 17:57.869 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I really have to reset this. 17:57.949 --> 18:08.094 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't just keep showing up to church with one eye open because I'm party party all Saturday night, but I just want to make it into the bill, right, to say that I'm in church. 18:08.294 --> 18:14.978 [SPEAKER_02]: And that helped me to just want to know a little bit more about what guys were listening to me. 18:15.618 --> 18:22.142 [SPEAKER_02]: And then ultimate pivot ladies was when she transitioned in two thousand nine. 18:22.182 --> 18:24.183 [SPEAKER_02]: My whole world was 18:25.235 --> 18:35.958 [SPEAKER_02]: Woo, because when you know when you are under anointed ministry, and you know the prayers are going through, well, I'll just speak for myself, because everybody listening, they might be so good, they don't have it. 18:35.978 --> 18:39.279 [SPEAKER_02]: So that you depend on somebody else's prayers, because you know that prayer is going through. 18:39.299 --> 18:44.580 [SPEAKER_02]: As some people pray, and it doesn't even bounce apart the floor, and it can't even penetrate heaven. 18:44.980 --> 18:50.882 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was like having this go to covering over my life all the time, I just knew I would have that forever. 18:51.843 --> 18:54.804 [SPEAKER_02]: But she did so much I could say about that. 18:54.824 --> 19:01.405 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the whole other show about what God was revealing to her when he called her home because she prayed to go young. 19:02.645 --> 19:12.407 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's so much about that relationship that she had with Christ that is encouraged me through my grief of not having her here. 19:12.867 --> 19:17.268 [SPEAKER_02]: But understanding, she said, you have to build your relationship with God for yourself. 19:17.908 --> 19:25.672 [SPEAKER_02]: you can't look to the left, look to the right, you have to look up to God, you have to know who He is in your life. 19:26.292 --> 19:29.414 [SPEAKER_02]: And when she transitioned, I had to stand on my own too. 19:29.974 --> 19:32.455 [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't borrow somebody else's testimony. 19:32.795 --> 19:33.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I had to really 19:34.476 --> 19:45.026 [SPEAKER_02]: go back into all of the sermons that she taught all of the teaching, the Bible study, it started to become revelation to me because anybody can read the Bible, right? 19:45.106 --> 19:55.677 [SPEAKER_02]: Anybody can say that they serve God, the devil can walk in the church and cut his ten, but can't he live the life can he do what we can't know he cannot, right? 19:56.037 --> 19:57.879 [SPEAKER_02]: He can't because 19:58.399 --> 20:03.463 [SPEAKER_02]: He has fallen from grace, and he wants to distract us from our inheritance. 20:03.803 --> 20:15.371 [SPEAKER_02]: So my growth and my faith journey got strengthened through the grief and loss of understanding that, while physically she's not here, spiritually, she'd never die. 20:15.451 --> 20:21.956 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, we are Spirit beings having a human experience, but God is just waiting for us to build intimacy with Him. 20:22.436 --> 20:25.559 [SPEAKER_02]: He's she would always preach, are you acquainted? 20:26.379 --> 20:26.519 [SPEAKER_02]: Right? 20:26.539 --> 20:27.440 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you just know him? 20:27.840 --> 20:29.482 [SPEAKER_02]: Or are you acquainted with him? 20:29.962 --> 20:32.885 [SPEAKER_02]: And I used to just listen, I'm like, okay, makes it on me. 20:32.945 --> 20:33.605 [SPEAKER_02]: I know God. 20:33.665 --> 20:35.047 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I got a PhD in church. 20:35.107 --> 20:36.888 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in an ear since a baby. 20:37.308 --> 20:37.749 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen. 20:39.290 --> 20:40.451 [SPEAKER_02]: You're self with God. 20:40.952 --> 20:45.255 [SPEAKER_02]: Is an opportunity for us to grow, right? 20:45.355 --> 20:48.798 [SPEAKER_02]: And grow in our understanding of who God has called us to be. 20:49.159 --> 20:51.521 [SPEAKER_02]: Because if he told me some of the things he got me doing now, 20:52.161 --> 20:54.982 [SPEAKER_02]: I've been like nah, I don't know about that bro. 20:55.082 --> 20:57.943 [SPEAKER_02]: We might have to give you some recommendations for somebody else. 20:59.083 --> 21:05.105 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's a part of how, because he knows he can only show you a little bit. 21:06.365 --> 21:08.266 [SPEAKER_02]: And then as you move in faith, you get more. 21:08.986 --> 21:18.029 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like that movie, oh Lord, with the explorer guy that's walking on the steps and they don't appear until he moves. 21:19.170 --> 21:29.852 [SPEAKER_02]: Indiana Jones Indiana Jones I was eating myself right so it's that's the favorite journey right that analogy they decepted in the parent till he put his foot out 21:30.630 --> 21:37.112 [SPEAKER_02]: And as you are walking through your faith journey and understanding who God has called you to be, you gotta put your foot out. 21:37.172 --> 21:38.772 [SPEAKER_02]: You gotta take action, right? 21:38.812 --> 21:43.453 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why he gave me one of my first books talking about action, action, despite the distraction. 21:43.674 --> 21:45.374 [SPEAKER_02]: The enemy is gonna try to gain your head. 21:45.634 --> 21:48.735 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna try to tell you why you're doing truth, hey, why are you doing these talks? 21:48.835 --> 21:49.875 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody wants to hear it. 21:50.155 --> 21:54.076 [SPEAKER_02]: He alive from the pit to hell, because you're setting people free by this podcast. 21:54.096 --> 22:00.298 [SPEAKER_02]: You're opening up conversation to transform and renew the minds of those listening. 22:00.627 --> 22:05.798 [SPEAKER_02]: so that we can truly function in the capacity that God has called us to. 22:05.858 --> 22:07.601 [SPEAKER_02]: So my faith is unapologetic. 22:07.862 --> 22:11.730 [SPEAKER_02]: I tell people, you might not know Jesus, maybe you're not 22:13.603 --> 22:19.748 [SPEAKER_02]: interested at this moment, but if you're around me, a piece of Holy Ghosts don't fall off on your honey because that's how I move. 22:20.429 --> 22:25.072 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't have to force you to want to get in a relationship with God. 22:25.112 --> 22:30.477 [SPEAKER_02]: I should be living the life that your curious enough to want to know, well, what is she talking about? 22:30.757 --> 22:32.198 [SPEAKER_02]: What is Dr. Christina saying? 22:32.238 --> 22:33.219 [SPEAKER_02]: What does Dr. Kim be saying? 22:33.239 --> 22:37.942 [SPEAKER_02]: Why are they always talking about this thing as a terrain and a covering? 22:38.783 --> 22:43.526 [SPEAKER_02]: That is what ministry is so that they can come into the understanding of who they are. 22:43.626 --> 22:44.987 [SPEAKER_02]: So leading our organization. 22:45.027 --> 22:50.210 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm unapologetic about reminding my members that we started as a Christian organization. 22:50.630 --> 22:55.053 [SPEAKER_02]: And while we are respectful for all of those who might have come to. 22:55.964 --> 22:58.627 [SPEAKER_02]: organization because they believe in what they and what we do. 22:59.188 --> 23:08.839 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't negate that the foundation of who we are will remain solid as I leave and it will be encouraging us for another hundred and five years. 23:08.879 --> 23:09.840 [SPEAKER_02]: So I know I said a lot. 23:10.709 --> 23:11.870 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's right on time. 23:12.050 --> 23:13.431 [SPEAKER_00]: It was right on time that the grant. 23:13.671 --> 23:17.994 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and I, I hope that people were listening in really well. 23:18.094 --> 23:30.123 [SPEAKER_00]: So what you were sharing about getting acquainted with this God who is a manual God with us, the God who comes for us and sits with us and comforts us and sings lullabies over us. 23:31.123 --> 23:32.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know, do you know that God? 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26:49.219 --> 26:56.441 [SPEAKER_02]: Because they knew there was an injustice happening with not even watching us to read and 26:56.814 --> 27:04.860 [SPEAKER_02]: to matriculate and to do all the things that we subsequently were able to do when we finally made it to institutions, there were still challenges. 27:05.220 --> 27:07.682 [SPEAKER_02]: There was still not open welcome arms. 27:07.702 --> 27:12.246 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why there was a need for our historically black universities and colleges. 27:12.846 --> 27:34.466 [SPEAKER_02]: and not all of us were founded on HBCUs but the majority of us that were knew that there was another layer of support that the sisterhood meant once you're in we have to make sure you make it to the finish line and bringing together the groups and organizations help to create a common space for 27:35.039 --> 27:46.163 [SPEAKER_02]: vulnerability for protection for study, you know, let's just break it down, just to study and make sure that everyone had an understanding of what they were doing so that they could matriculate and graduate. 27:46.443 --> 27:54.086 [SPEAKER_02]: So on the base level, it was about how do we build community to insulate us from the craziness outside in the world? 27:54.406 --> 27:55.647 [SPEAKER_02]: How do we build community? 27:55.947 --> 28:03.892 [SPEAKER_02]: So that we can create some scholarship opportunities for those who might not have the same resources and financial capacity to get through school. 28:04.152 --> 28:11.036 [SPEAKER_02]: How do we build communities so that we can serve those who might not get on a college campus who might not have that experience, but there's a desire 28:11.416 --> 28:14.758 [SPEAKER_02]: to give back, because too much is given much is required. 28:15.118 --> 28:23.603 [SPEAKER_02]: How do we build community that we know when you're going through a rough patch that your sister not only will fix your crown, but will help you build a crown, right? 28:23.643 --> 28:30.887 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you think about sisterhood, it's about how we all come together under like values 28:31.347 --> 28:36.491 [SPEAKER_02]: and expectations so that we can move the needle forward and progress for all of us. 28:36.851 --> 28:47.299 [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I am the international president and CEO of Zatify Beta Surgeon Incorporated, but I'm also the Vice Chairwoman and comes September will be the Chairwoman of the D-nine Council of Presidents. 28:47.319 --> 28:49.121 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's all of our organizations. 28:49.181 --> 28:53.764 [SPEAKER_02]: And when we talk about hashtag D-nine stronger together, it's not just a hashtag. 28:54.105 --> 28:55.606 [SPEAKER_02]: It's about how we're intentionally 28:56.006 --> 29:02.816 [SPEAKER_02]: creating space for collective action because we all chose a different means to the same end. 29:03.297 --> 29:10.528 [SPEAKER_02]: All of us focus on scholarship, all of us focus on service, all of us focus on sisterhood and for the fraternities brotherhood. 29:10.848 --> 29:16.014 [SPEAKER_02]: So when we come together, we've just chosen different ways to package it, different ways to deliver it. 29:16.454 --> 29:22.881 [SPEAKER_02]: But we all are collaborating around the same necessary entity and that strength and relationship. 29:23.021 --> 29:25.144 [SPEAKER_02]: God didn't put us on this planet to do life alone. 29:25.724 --> 29:27.987 [SPEAKER_02]: He put us on this planet to do life in community. 29:28.347 --> 29:34.349 [SPEAKER_02]: So your faith-based institution where you go to church, where you fellowship, that's part of the community. 29:34.749 --> 29:44.111 [SPEAKER_02]: That's part of what he puts you there for, so that you can be strengthened because there are times when the enemy is going to and fro seeking whom he can devour. 29:44.412 --> 29:47.952 [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to have some folk around you that can pray you through. 29:48.273 --> 29:51.373 [SPEAKER_02]: Pray you up in the moments where you can't even utter the words. 29:51.453 --> 29:52.654 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a problem. 29:53.514 --> 29:56.436 [SPEAKER_02]: Lord, he understands the Lord. 29:56.776 --> 30:02.039 [SPEAKER_02]: And he puts people around you that can encourage you, that can pray you through. 30:02.379 --> 30:08.443 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not just for those of faith, it's anyone who understands the power of women coming together. 30:08.723 --> 30:19.870 [SPEAKER_02]: When we think about the experience that we had brutalized murdered through the transatlantic slave trade, but those who survived, they still had to survive slavery. 30:20.330 --> 30:46.005 [SPEAKER_02]: So they had their own customs that they were trying to hold on to and remember about what they did on the motherland when they came together, the women knew how, all right, she's preparing to have a baby, we need to do X, Y, and Z. We knew how to stretch food to make food out of things that they thought was scraps, it was the sisters that coming together, there was a special sisterhood around how to support the men when they went through whatever challenge in situation that they had going on. 30:46.226 --> 30:48.547 [SPEAKER_02]: So the power in collective action 30:49.027 --> 30:55.573 [SPEAKER_02]: and the power in building relationships, that is what has sustained us throughout history. 30:55.933 --> 31:01.999 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's created a space and an opportunity for us to truly grow together. 31:02.359 --> 31:14.770 [SPEAKER_02]: So that is what makes it unique, particularly for black women because of our shared lived experiences, we can relate on a deeper level of what it takes to just survive. 31:16.682 --> 31:17.863 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, absolutely. 31:17.903 --> 31:25.069 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Dr. Grant, I'm so moved, not only by your passion, but also your conviction, your faith conviction. 31:25.809 --> 31:42.382 [SPEAKER_01]: And I will be remiss if I do not say out here on this show that I am surrounded by amazing women of Zates and Phi Beta, my bestie, my sister, my cousin, and my friend, they are all Zates. 31:42.462 --> 31:45.305 [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to say that all of them, on myself, are not in. 31:46.606 --> 31:51.290 [SPEAKER_01]: as a sorority, as of yet, I've always had great respect, honestly, for the D-nine. 31:51.931 --> 32:03.121 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm curious, you talked about the foundation of the organization being based on faith, right? 32:03.161 --> 32:04.803 [SPEAKER_01]: Christian faith, to be specific. 32:05.864 --> 32:09.547 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love if you could speak to the sister at the table. 32:09.607 --> 32:17.133 [SPEAKER_01]: There are, or has of, as of late, been some Christians that have felt like, oh my goodness, is there a conflict? 32:17.193 --> 32:26.361 [SPEAKER_01]: That have genuine questions about, can I serve God, can I follow Jesus, and also join a sorority? 32:26.761 --> 32:28.522 [SPEAKER_01]: And also join a fraternity? 32:28.662 --> 32:31.245 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there a conflict there? 32:31.265 --> 32:33.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Am I somehow being double-minded? 32:34.527 --> 32:37.550 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's some people that have real questions about that. 32:37.630 --> 32:43.697 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Grant has a woman of faith who is the president of Zeta Phi Beta. 32:43.777 --> 32:50.143 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love for you to speak in to that and speak to that sister who might feel some conflict who's genuinely confused about, ah, can I do both? 32:52.225 --> 32:56.869 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, and I love that you asked that question because this is about truth talks, right? 32:56.910 --> 33:04.116 [SPEAKER_02]: This is about having frank conversations and sometimes the conversations you have with family can be difficult, but necessary. 33:04.556 --> 33:16.187 [SPEAKER_02]: So for me, the understanding that I would like sisters at the table to really hear when I share is that nothing should come before God for those of faith. 33:16.587 --> 33:17.188 [SPEAKER_02]: Period, right? 33:17.568 --> 33:19.829 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you can only serve one master. 33:20.469 --> 33:30.213 [SPEAKER_02]: And for those of us that understand that, also understand that we work in all sorts of constructs with government, with municipalities, their things. 33:30.233 --> 33:32.354 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to pledge allegiance to the flag. 33:32.394 --> 33:40.257 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to go on jury duty if you're a medical doctor, the Democratic oath is something that you take. 33:40.617 --> 33:51.401 [SPEAKER_02]: So deep are opportunities for you within the human constructs, within what happens in the world, there are just certain processes and procedures that you align with. 33:51.881 --> 34:04.566 [SPEAKER_02]: So coming into the organization, I can only obviously speak for mine, but I can speak generally for all of my colleagues, that there is nothing that would put you in a position to put organization before God. 34:05.637 --> 34:14.512 [SPEAKER_02]: what you have opportunities to do is to come in to the ideals and the understanding of how you execute your work as a collective group. 34:15.193 --> 34:16.896 [SPEAKER_02]: And that is something that you share. 34:17.902 --> 34:32.995 [SPEAKER_02]: with one another and those who are not in the organization wouldn't understand or be able to share because they have not experienced what those universal morals values standards are because they're just not members. 34:33.315 --> 34:38.459 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's nothing that would supersede your fidelity to God. 34:38.859 --> 34:39.160 [SPEAKER_02]: Period. 34:40.237 --> 34:48.563 [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be a part of an organization that was giving me a one-way ticket to hell because with the heat wave that has been happening, Hades is not for me. 34:48.583 --> 34:49.323 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:49.343 --> 34:49.644 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm on my own. 34:49.664 --> 34:49.924 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:49.944 --> 34:50.384 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:50.444 --> 34:50.704 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:50.724 --> 34:51.085 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:51.145 --> 34:52.286 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:52.766 --> 34:53.046 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:53.066 --> 34:53.386 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:53.406 --> 34:54.087 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:54.127 --> 34:54.867 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:54.887 --> 34:55.908 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:56.428 --> 34:56.729 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:56.749 --> 34:57.149 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:57.169 --> 34:57.769 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:57.809 --> 34:58.230 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:58.370 --> 34:59.050 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 34:59.090 --> 35:00.431 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:00.451 --> 35:01.032 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:01.052 --> 35:01.452 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:01.472 --> 35:01.972 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:01.992 --> 35:02.853 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:02.893 --> 35:03.714 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:03.774 --> 35:04.254 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:04.294 --> 35:04.734 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:04.774 --> 35:05.555 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:05.595 --> 35:06.255 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:06.295 --> 35:06.596 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:06.616 --> 35:07.036 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:07.056 --> 35:07.436 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:07.456 --> 35:07.796 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own. 35:07.816 --> 35:07.836 [SPEAKER_02]: I 35:08.857 --> 35:14.162 [SPEAKER_02]: what guarantees me a spine heaven is doing what God's will is and being obedient to that. 35:14.182 --> 35:17.906 [SPEAKER_00]: So I hope that answers your question. 35:18.406 --> 35:19.808 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. 35:19.848 --> 35:21.049 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much Dr. Gray. 35:21.069 --> 35:29.798 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we realize in the work that we do that that conversation bubbles up at particular social and political moments that in the sense of 35:32.112 --> 35:37.076 [SPEAKER_00]: That conversation about can you be a devout believer and be a member of a BGLO specifically? 35:37.096 --> 35:42.559 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't hear that as it relates to black folks who are a part of predominantly white sororities or fraternities. 35:43.240 --> 35:55.408 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a particular, I think, political disenfranchisement and removing solidarity in attacking members of those organizations. 35:55.428 --> 35:56.069 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, every 35:56.489 --> 36:03.971 [SPEAKER_00]: Anything that you're a part of, you need to have a clear conscience, you need to always be discerning, amen to whatever you're a part of. 36:05.712 --> 36:15.094 [SPEAKER_00]: But with that being said, there is, I would say, an attack, an anti-black, an anti-African, an anti-educated people. 36:15.134 --> 36:24.817 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's just a lot of, and it's a particular political way that happens, and we saw it in our work in tech in the color, with all the denoun sings and all these pieces. 36:25.617 --> 36:40.993 [SPEAKER_00]: It is certainly in the context of my experience as an Alpha Cap Alpha woman that, you know, one of the people who deciphered me was an aka in college in who helped me to see Jesus brightly and vividly in some unique ways. 36:41.013 --> 36:47.901 [SPEAKER_00]: And so the Lord is using members of all kinds of organizations and members who are outside of them to point him to himself. 36:48.541 --> 37:02.071 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to jump into something that you said, which I think is very important for the sisters at the table to hear that not only is the weaponization of who we are and what we stand for under attack, 37:03.280 --> 37:07.102 [SPEAKER_02]: in our organizations, not everybody believes the same thing, right? 37:07.342 --> 37:08.422 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's not a monolith. 37:08.782 --> 37:20.627 [SPEAKER_02]: So while we are on faith-based, a good majority of my organization may be faith-based, some may be agnostic, some might be, you know, totally like, that's 37:21.327 --> 37:29.873 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not me or it could be so many different things that we could break down because discernment is what I want to pull out of what you said, right? 37:29.973 --> 37:34.236 [SPEAKER_02]: So depending on how you come to the table, that's what you're going to bring with you. 37:36.122 --> 37:40.766 [SPEAKER_02]: Ministry is a continuation of your daily walk in talk. 37:40.806 --> 37:43.488 [SPEAKER_02]: So discipleship doesn't just happen on Sunday. 37:43.868 --> 37:47.971 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, ministry just isn't happening on a Tuesday night Bible study. 37:48.312 --> 38:00.041 [SPEAKER_02]: It's every day that you're influencing those around and with the spirit of discernment, you know what and what shouldn't shouldn't be done that are in alignment with you and you can be unapologetic about that. 38:00.361 --> 38:02.923 [SPEAKER_02]: But be very careful in how people twist 38:03.842 --> 38:12.935 [SPEAKER_02]: And handle the word deceitfully how people try to manipulate religion to create conflict and barriers we can see what's happening now. 38:13.315 --> 38:13.476 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 38:13.536 --> 38:16.460 [SPEAKER_02]: So this opportunity for our truth. 38:17.358 --> 38:24.680 [SPEAKER_02]: And the talks that you are doing with you talks, it gives people, hey, let me pause and think about this a little bit differently, right? 38:24.720 --> 38:33.283 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me do a little bit more investigation because you can choose to say what you want to say because if you want something to fit, you'll rationalize it to fit that way. 38:33.643 --> 38:36.404 [SPEAKER_02]: But the truth is the truth is the truth and the only judge is God. 38:36.684 --> 38:37.444 [SPEAKER_02]: He knows the heart. 38:37.744 --> 38:38.345 [SPEAKER_02]: He sits high. 38:38.385 --> 38:38.925 [SPEAKER_02]: He looks low. 38:38.965 --> 38:39.745 [SPEAKER_02]: He sees all things. 38:39.785 --> 38:40.565 [SPEAKER_02]: He knows all things. 38:40.585 --> 38:41.906 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing hidden from his sight. 38:44.041 --> 39:03.245 [SPEAKER_02]: I would rather spend my energy on uplifting the positive work we do and those with a fidelity to God in that work because what you focus on expands and I'd rather give my energy to how we're being the light in a dark world than letting people consume me with their version of what they believe is darkness. 39:05.365 --> 39:05.865 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely. 39:05.885 --> 39:06.766 [SPEAKER_00]: There's work to be done. 39:07.026 --> 39:08.408 [SPEAKER_00]: There is work to be done. 39:08.888 --> 39:16.234 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I'm curious as again, we have our audience as listening in and obviously we, we take sister her series. 39:16.314 --> 39:17.415 [SPEAKER_00]: We're sisters in Christ. 39:18.215 --> 39:21.358 [SPEAKER_00]: And we take this idea of the power of women working together. 39:22.047 --> 39:26.530 [SPEAKER_00]: in unity with integrity towards a noble cause, right? 39:26.570 --> 39:36.617 [SPEAKER_00]: And so what wisdom would you provide to our listeners right now who are looking out at the political landscape that we're in, the sorrow, the despair, the 39:37.083 --> 39:40.926 [SPEAKER_00]: the intentional chaos at every turn, the bombardment of it. 39:42.387 --> 39:48.653 [SPEAKER_00]: What would you say, what advice, what wisdom would you provide for them about what to do in this next moment? 39:48.713 --> 39:51.935 [SPEAKER_00]: How can they catalyze the power of sisterhood? 39:52.756 --> 39:54.698 [SPEAKER_00]: And what would be some of the first things that they should do? 39:56.118 --> 39:57.819 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a loaded question. 39:57.839 --> 39:58.859 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good thing. 39:58.899 --> 40:00.179 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm going to do my best. 40:00.379 --> 40:01.120 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you can. 40:01.160 --> 40:01.940 [SPEAKER_02]: I know you can. 40:03.700 --> 40:04.961 [SPEAKER_02]: That is a loaded loaded question. 40:04.981 --> 40:07.381 [SPEAKER_02]: There's so many things are flooding my mind. 40:08.022 --> 40:11.823 [SPEAKER_02]: One, the first thing is be aware of the intentional distractions. 40:12.625 --> 40:24.209 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, because it's smoking mirrors, they have bigger things at play with AI with technology that they're trying to control with creating chaos, with creating and ensuing alleged wars. 40:24.990 --> 40:38.755 [SPEAKER_02]: That is to distract from some of the behind the scenes of manipulating our information, removing pieces of our democracy, little by little, right in plain sight, people not reading what's in 40:39.235 --> 40:46.719 [SPEAKER_02]: these bills because typically bills are quite involved and quite large, but they're putting in pieces of legislation. 40:47.099 --> 40:48.980 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what everyone needs to be aware of. 40:49.320 --> 40:57.004 [SPEAKER_02]: What's in the legislation that changes the game and turns back the progress we've made for over six decades. 40:57.424 --> 41:02.107 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's finding the correct sources to vet 41:02.885 --> 41:03.606 [SPEAKER_02]: information. 41:03.626 --> 41:06.848 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't, just because it's on Google and TikTok does not make it law. 41:07.208 --> 41:12.413 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to be able to understand where the credible sources of information are coming from. 41:13.193 --> 41:19.018 [SPEAKER_02]: You can do your own due diligence in investigating and using your critical thinking skills. 41:19.498 --> 41:22.739 [SPEAKER_02]: to allow for you to get the right answers. 41:22.839 --> 41:24.839 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, doing that alone is a heavy lift. 41:25.199 --> 41:41.523 [SPEAKER_02]: Collectively working with organizations and groups like when with black women, like our D nine sororities and fraternities, like national council for Negro women, like the NAACP, coming together across collaborative arms of service. 41:41.923 --> 41:49.225 [SPEAKER_02]: We can give you what you need for us to protect ourselves as black women, not only just going after corporate 41:49.725 --> 41:55.208 [SPEAKER_02]: entities that are dishonoring who we are and what we bring to the table, but protecting the sisters who work on the inside. 41:56.549 --> 42:07.135 [SPEAKER_02]: In and out strategy, which is something that Reverend Shivana Online Bradley, one of my dear sisters and friends, that she reminds us of as NCAA, because NCAA is an organization of organizations. 42:07.475 --> 42:10.017 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's all of our Black women-led organizations. 42:10.177 --> 42:17.041 [SPEAKER_02]: Our leaders coming together to work collaboratively so we can disseminate the right information to our membership. 42:17.421 --> 42:18.282 [SPEAKER_02]: So being a part 42:19.214 --> 42:25.078 [SPEAKER_02]: of those opportunities really help you to educate yourself on how to deal with what's happening. 42:25.418 --> 42:29.101 [SPEAKER_02]: The second thing that I would tell you is something that got laid on my spirit during COVID. 42:29.561 --> 42:32.183 [SPEAKER_02]: It was something we never saw, we couldn't believe it. 42:32.223 --> 42:33.544 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was like, what is happening? 42:34.165 --> 42:36.986 [SPEAKER_02]: He said, acknowledge what you see, but trust what you know. 42:37.867 --> 42:40.510 [SPEAKER_02]: acknowledged at this moment right now doesn't feel good. 42:40.530 --> 42:51.181 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was just moment that we can all look at that meme that was going around with black women sitting on top of the building smoking the cigarette while everything was on fire acknowledged that that's really how stuff of us feel. 42:52.823 --> 42:59.309 [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what you know is trouble don't last always what you know is guys where it can't return on to him void. 43:00.610 --> 43:03.932 [SPEAKER_02]: is that we come from a line of resilient warriors. 43:04.252 --> 43:07.053 [SPEAKER_02]: What you know, black women lead things change. 43:07.373 --> 43:10.135 [SPEAKER_02]: What you know is that we won't be on the silent committee. 43:10.355 --> 43:14.056 [SPEAKER_02]: We will continue to raise our voices collectively so that we can see the action. 43:14.377 --> 43:21.360 [SPEAKER_02]: Because if we don't, we will be the first generation to leave the next generation worse off than we found it. 43:21.620 --> 43:22.660 [SPEAKER_02]: So it is always 43:24.541 --> 43:34.846 [SPEAKER_02]: in our purview as black women in the sisterhood of what we have is when we combine our energies and the best of you matches the best of me. 43:35.006 --> 43:38.848 [SPEAKER_02]: We're unstoppable because we're a reflection of each other. 43:38.888 --> 43:40.069 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no competition. 43:40.549 --> 43:41.930 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has their space. 43:42.090 --> 43:43.690 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody has their gift and talent. 43:43.951 --> 43:47.472 [SPEAKER_02]: And when we bring all of that, I call it the paparia brilliance. 43:47.692 --> 43:52.455 [SPEAKER_02]: When we bring that all together, we change. 43:53.295 --> 43:55.817 [SPEAKER_02]: the dynamic of what we see. 43:56.377 --> 43:59.720 [SPEAKER_02]: And it might not happen overnight, but we can't give up, right? 43:59.840 --> 44:01.821 [SPEAKER_02]: Faith is the substance of things. 44:01.881 --> 44:02.081 [SPEAKER_02]: What? 44:02.441 --> 44:05.784 [SPEAKER_02]: Hope for the evidence of things not to be. 44:06.244 --> 44:12.108 [SPEAKER_02]: So we have to move forward in the faith of knowing that you have a divine assignment. 44:12.668 --> 44:19.333 [SPEAKER_02]: And that assignment is to honor God's will for your life and to work with those who he is carefully curated. 44:19.653 --> 44:25.015 [SPEAKER_02]: to make a circle of influence, to move the needle forward, and to have truth talks. 44:25.455 --> 44:26.395 [SPEAKER_02]: That's free. 44:26.915 --> 44:27.215 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 44:27.615 --> 44:28.956 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. 44:29.516 --> 44:30.236 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my goodness. 44:30.276 --> 44:31.897 [SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Brown, wow, what? 44:31.957 --> 44:43.800 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I am struck by you said, if we, if we don't, yes, the black woman are sitting on that roof and sipping on their tea and whatnot, but if we don't, you know, step up and do what we need to be doing. 44:44.300 --> 44:48.563 [SPEAKER_01]: then we will leave the next generation worse than how, than the previous. 44:48.703 --> 44:50.244 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness, that is so sobering. 44:50.844 --> 44:54.866 [SPEAKER_01]: And I hope you sisters have taken that in before we go, Dr. Grant. 44:55.207 --> 44:57.688 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually here talking to you all day, but you are busy woman. 44:57.728 --> 44:58.569 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just busy. 45:01.090 --> 45:01.831 [SPEAKER_01]: There it is! 45:02.171 --> 45:02.991 [SPEAKER_01]: There it is! 45:03.452 --> 45:13.279 [SPEAKER_01]: So, when we won't take too much more of your time, but I would love for you to talk to our sisters at the table, let them know how they can join in on your work, follow you, whatever you would like to let them know. 45:13.319 --> 45:14.920 [SPEAKER_00]: Or even just be praying for you. 45:14.980 --> 45:18.123 [SPEAKER_00]: You can even raise a couple prayer points for our prayer where you see you. 45:18.863 --> 45:19.784 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 45:19.884 --> 45:23.787 [SPEAKER_02]: So, first of all, definitely social, you can connect with me. 45:24.287 --> 45:30.013 [SPEAKER_02]: I've told people for years, I've built social media all wrong and you're still rocking with me and growing every day. 45:30.373 --> 45:36.439 [SPEAKER_02]: But you can buy me Dr. Stacey and C Grant and that's STAC I eat. 45:36.499 --> 45:37.600 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't put a wire on my name. 45:37.981 --> 45:41.985 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a blackout, but Dr. Stacey and C Grant or it's the grant. 45:42.565 --> 45:45.128 [SPEAKER_02]: And Facebook is Stacey and Sea Granite. 45:45.168 --> 45:45.648 [SPEAKER_02]: It'll show up. 45:45.688 --> 45:46.669 [SPEAKER_02]: That's Stacey and Sea Granite. 45:46.689 --> 45:48.010 [SPEAKER_02]: But you'll see it there. 45:48.210 --> 45:49.371 [SPEAKER_02]: But here's what I really need. 45:49.512 --> 45:54.936 [SPEAKER_02]: I need my prayer warrior on the wall for me because we're building the faith-prinort TV network. 45:55.597 --> 46:00.822 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is going to be our global network where I'll have truth talks on as well. 46:02.483 --> 46:07.684 [SPEAKER_02]: to be able to share in every industry, because there's nowhere where God is not. 46:08.025 --> 46:15.667 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's been the growth for Destiny Designs University building, the resources and the capacity for a Facebook or TV to take over. 46:15.687 --> 46:20.248 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you think about CNN, MSNBC, BET, Lifetime, all of it. 46:21.507 --> 46:23.588 [SPEAKER_02]: coming under the umbrella of faith. 46:23.708 --> 46:25.269 [SPEAKER_02]: So I need everyone's prayer. 46:25.329 --> 46:34.675 [SPEAKER_02]: We have a visionary campaign that folks are contributing to, but just keep in prayer the work that God has for me to do in this space, right? 46:34.815 --> 46:37.617 [SPEAKER_02]: And to be able to work with others. 46:38.097 --> 46:55.967 [SPEAKER_02]: in creating opportunities for global visibility, not just here in the United States, but throughout the diaspora, with the content that will include a lot of business information, but we focus on three areas, revenue relationships and resources, and then we top it off with honoring your temple, because if you don't take care of yourself, 46:56.247 --> 46:58.129 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't be here to help anybody else. 46:58.469 --> 47:05.676 [SPEAKER_02]: So we've done the first leverage launch of faith for no TV on I-R-E-G-M radio taken it back to my Caribbean roots. 47:06.017 --> 47:12.103 [SPEAKER_02]: So I have a show every Sunday, twelve PM to two PM on I-R-E-G-M radio.com. 47:12.143 --> 47:13.063 [SPEAKER_02]: It streams everywhere. 47:13.124 --> 47:19.129 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're local to the New York City, try state areas, ninety seven point one, F-M and H-D three. 47:19.530 --> 47:19.650 [SPEAKER_02]: So 47:20.173 --> 47:33.379 [SPEAKER_02]: That's where you see it being built out, keep in prayer, the movement, the capital that we're raising to really put this out in a very unique form with traditional TV streaming, social cable. 47:33.679 --> 47:41.862 [SPEAKER_02]: We're getting the word out to the four corners of the world and inviting everyone to come in and collaborate with us as we are God's hands and feet. 47:42.282 --> 47:45.364 [SPEAKER_02]: Here on this earth, making things happen and doing 47:46.325 --> 47:47.726 [SPEAKER_02]: His will, his way. 47:47.746 --> 47:57.732 [SPEAKER_02]: And of course, as I leave my organization, just follow Zeta Phi Beta everywhere, and you'll see the work that we continue to do to serve our communities and ensure the vision of our families go forward. 47:57.752 --> 48:00.634 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's an honor to be able to share all of that with you. 48:00.654 --> 48:02.255 [SPEAKER_02]: I can be in your space forever. 48:02.635 --> 48:03.796 [SPEAKER_02]: You two are 48:04.436 --> 48:05.678 [SPEAKER_02]: amazing. 48:05.878 --> 48:24.520 [SPEAKER_02]: When I say amazing because of your heart, because of your desire to be a blessing, I pray that true thoughts continues to just grow exponentially, that it touches so many more hearts and lives because other women need to have safe places where they can consume information. 48:25.035 --> 48:34.261 [SPEAKER_02]: have a little fun and be targeted on their focus on what their legacy will be here on the planet. 48:34.321 --> 48:43.328 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm honored that I could say I was hanging out with Dr. Ian, Dr. C, or at you talk, have it all wonderful time. 48:44.148 --> 48:49.533 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, Dr. Grant, we are so honored that you had a, took a seat with us at the table. 48:49.573 --> 48:56.959 [SPEAKER_01]: You may time and you've always been so warm, you've let your light shine, which is why we gravitated, you know, toward you. 48:56.999 --> 48:59.281 [SPEAKER_01]: Why do we have Dr. Grant at the table? 49:00.943 --> 49:12.275 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for accepting the invitation to join us on Tuesday, but we know our listeners are going to be over the moon, particularly my family and our sisters and all our our friends. 49:18.561 --> 49:19.782 [SPEAKER_02]: My brother is happy. 49:19.842 --> 49:37.290 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I am thrilled not only for my source to be happy, but all my D nine family, you know, I give my love free and it's spreading all over because I truly believe in the power of unity and about sisterhood and what we need to do. 49:37.978 --> 49:40.939 [SPEAKER_02]: is support each other because we don't know what everyone's going through. 49:41.179 --> 49:43.040 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone has different challenges. 49:43.420 --> 49:46.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Either you're coming out of it, you're in the middle of it, or you're heading towards it. 49:46.201 --> 49:46.921 [SPEAKER_02]: Just keep learning. 49:47.321 --> 49:52.503 [SPEAKER_02]: But having sisterhood, there's nothing like knowing I can depend on another sister. 49:52.523 --> 49:59.766 [SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't, you know, just focus on your organization of affiliation is because I see you as a melanated brilliant woman. 50:00.526 --> 50:02.747 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's your divine assignment. 50:03.087 --> 50:06.388 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's me transcends all because that's how you share God's love. 50:06.653 --> 50:07.154 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 50:07.174 --> 50:07.494 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 50:07.514 --> 50:07.995 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 50:08.035 --> 50:08.535 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 50:08.575 --> 50:09.276 [SPEAKER_01]: You need the way. 50:09.677 --> 50:10.417 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 50:10.918 --> 50:11.078 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 50:11.098 --> 50:14.783 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we want to thank our sisters for taking a seat at the table with us this week. 50:14.803 --> 50:16.445 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep the conversation going. 50:16.485 --> 50:19.809 [SPEAKER_01]: Share your thoughts about this episode still resisting. 50:20.209 --> 50:21.551 [SPEAKER_01]: Sisterhood is resistance. 50:22.431 --> 50:30.014 [SPEAKER_01]: This episode you can talk to both on Instagram, Threads, Facebook, at Truth's Table, or email us your thoughts at Ask Truth's Table at Gmail.com. 50:30.314 --> 50:38.838 [SPEAKER_01]: Black women, a Truth's Table has a Facebook discipleship group, so make sure you follow Truth's Table on Facebook, and join our Facebook group today, and invite your home girls to. 50:39.218 --> 50:42.959 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget to rate and review the show on iTunes and subscribe on your favorite podcast. 50:43.019 --> 50:44.920 [SPEAKER_01]: Blair, oh, and watch us on YouTube, y'all. 50:45.580 --> 50:54.703 [SPEAKER_01]: On Tuesday, Bo has a Patreon account so you can send your love offerings to patreon.com, slash truth stable, or you can bless us at our PayPal, which is PayPal.me slash truth stable. 50:55.003 --> 50:56.944 [SPEAKER_01]: Truth table's audio producer is Joshua Heath. 50:57.264 --> 51:06.067 [SPEAKER_01]: Our video producer is Dale Bradford and truth table's executive producers are your host, a community, who and and Christina Evans and we'll see you soon on the next truth table. 51:06.527 --> 51:06.807 [SPEAKER_01]: Bye.