[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and welcome to very amusing!
[SPEAKER_00]: Your one-stop shop for the stories, secrets and shenanigans, of a popcorn field theme park journalist.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Carthel Maisel, and I could not be more excited to have a gab-sash episode this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: This feels like when you have plans with a friend, and you're like, oh, we can go out and do all this stuff, or we can just hang out on one of our couches, watch a movie we've been dying to see, and just eat popcorn and gab all night.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is what this gab-sash is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanna catch up with my podcast friends and tell them everything that's been going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because since I went on my Alaska cruise, like I've been home for a few weeks, there's a lot happening and I feel like we have a lot to discuss.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot to catch you up on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just wanna chitchat with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's really, I just really all I want.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna talk about the group trip later in this episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, okay, I know that the whole episode is gonna be like the intro, but I am recording this minute after I just got home from hanging out with Becky of Mouse Fan Travel.
[SPEAKER_00]: We met up while she was in Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_00]: We hung out for an hour and a half because the two of us can't stop chitchatting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just got me so excited for a group trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: trip because I just want to be with all of you in person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to hang out and just have all of us be in a special place together.
[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will get into it later in this episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's all I had to share.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm so excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also just had a bite of my one of my favorite pastries in LA.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got into another like updated LA guy in the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I, um, this place Clark Street.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a really good cardamom bun, which I, um, I ate half of this morning and then I scrolled away a little bit and I just had a treat.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's delicious.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're ever in LA, there's, I think there's a few of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go to the one on Largemont.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is busy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is very busy and you got to get there earlier in the morning to get the bun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Though I went today at like nine a.m.
[SPEAKER_00]: nine thirty ten and they had loads of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they got the message that they got to keep them in stock because they're that good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just it really makes me want to go to like I don't know I want to go to like like Sweden or like a Copenhagen or like I want to go somewhere where there's just coffee like cardamom buns and pastries and you can just hang out at a cafe and then like be around with your kids and like hang out that's like the vacation I'm craving right now
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't tell, we have many thoughts on my pregnant.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot to talk about this week, but we will, listen, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with the interest and a certain point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will turn it over to Becky, which by the way, I hope you guys are enjoying those segments of Becky and I. We just felt like it was, it was a much better format than me being like, here's a discount.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a discount.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, come straight from Becky, Becky knows it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of playing telephone, we can just play the version of telephone where I get to talk to my friend Becky who I appreciate and adore as an incredible business woman and she gets to tell us how to save money at the same park.
[SPEAKER_00]: just feels very win win.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you guys are liking it, let me know if you're not liking it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, let me know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's pretty fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, I never like, I never talk about these parks discounts and these resort discounts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's really helpful to have an expert in the field, come out every month and tell us.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love to save money, and I want y'all to save money.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, to me, it works great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm gonna go have one.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna have a cardamom bun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be right back, stick around, for these words from Backing and I, and also a really a juicy gab session.
[SPEAKER_00]: A juicy gab session.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stay tuned.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about a lot of stuff in this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, it's gonna be good.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to our gabsash.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm so excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have so much I have to tell you about.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's things we're not being able to discuss like me temporarily cutting out milk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know how hard it is for me to not drink skim milk?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have an ice skim latte every single day of my freaking life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm out here getting an Americano with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, who am I?
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone who drinks oat milk.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very, very strange to me, but I've been having a lot of tummy issues.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yani got it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to a bunch of specialists.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will figure it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it might be tight dairy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I have to give up dairy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be really, I'm going to be really sad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also am finishing my rewatch with the Big Bang Theory.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will not make you listen to the Big Bang Theory.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love this and do a Big Bang Theory chat in this podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't do it, but while I was finishing the final season, which I am finishing, and then I'm going to reread my friend Jessica Radloft's book, which I think is the best journalist to work at the decade.
[SPEAKER_00]: Truly like Jessica's an unbelievable reporter and put together an oral history of our last great American sitcom.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to reread it not once the show's fresh in my brain again, but I was thinking like maybe we should try to have Bill Prady on the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Prady is the co-creator with Chuck Lori of the Bing Bang Theory, but Bill Prady also did Muppet Vision Three D and also worked on a lot of Muppet stuff like one of the TV shows that was on recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I don't know a plan to just see it after watching that much Big Bang and seeing Bill's name and the credits being like, that feels like a good fit, doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm gonna pursue it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually gonna write it down in my new to-do list, you know, I'll do it later.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we do need to keep that in mind because how fun would that be?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I would have a reason to talk about the Big Bang Theory and this podcast, which I won't do because we have so much else to discuss, including that I went to Disneyland and I really didn't tell anyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went with my mom and my dad.
[SPEAKER_00]: We went for a full day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never taken Pearl for that long.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Pearl was also there.
[SPEAKER_00]: The four of us went, um, it was a, I don't want to say a perfect day because, you know, it's, when it's hot out in your Disneyland, there's a lot going on bringing a toddler.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we had everything broke our way that day.
[SPEAKER_00]: We went on July second and I'm telling you, it was so good that I will never not check a crowd calendar again.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know many months ago, I was like, I don't even use them anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just look at ticket prices.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that to me is the most accurate crowd calendar.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm out here saying don't listen to old me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Check everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Check crowd calendars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Check the prices.
[SPEAKER_00]: See how things line up because you can find little pockets where the crowds feel a little retro.
[SPEAKER_00]: They feel a little better than they used to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: And July second.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was truly fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lines for rides were like ten to thirty minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The rides I'm going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they were for like big thrill rides, but I did walk past rides with the resistance at one point and saw there was a forty five minute weight, which I don't think my human eyes have ever seen.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've ever walked past in the middle of the day and been like forty five minutes, forty five minutes, forty five minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, bonkers to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's summer.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was July fourth week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Truly like me all like maybe go to the parks like it might be a good idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: We let me okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna I don't want to go chronologically, but we got so lucky on traffic.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think because people were out of town for the holiday driving through an emptyish LA heaven.
[SPEAKER_00]: It took us an hour to get there even with their like twenty minutes of a slowdown on the freeway, which is LA talking a lot of good past it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I parked at Pixar pals, which I always do, pulled right in, pulled right in, found a parking spot immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: We walked, we went through security, nobody in line.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't do tramp security, there was always a line there, but we walked right in.
[SPEAKER_00]: We took the manga rail in, which I never do, because breaking down a stroller is...
[SPEAKER_00]: a non-negotiable unless I have three adults which I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: We took the Monorail in which was lovely.
[SPEAKER_00]: My mom loved doing that with Pearl.
[SPEAKER_00]: We went on small world.
[SPEAKER_00]: We went on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go out order because I can't remember anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: We met Snow White and it's like exceptional meet and greet by her by like the wishing well and the Snow White found into the right of the castle.
[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't a character handler there so like we it was like an a minute long interaction.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've watched the video back as Pearl keeps wanting to watch it and I can't hear in the video like my camp counselor like Disney brain keeps saying I said two or three times.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like Pearl do you want to take a picture with Snow White like trying to move the interaction along so other people of line could go
[SPEAKER_00]: And Snow White just kept talking to just kept pushing the conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I lose my hands or clean.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you were in the line, I apologize.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to speed it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was like a magical meet and greet.
[SPEAKER_00]: We went on the Snow White attraction.
[SPEAKER_00]: We, the one bad part was that we got in line for Peter Panning at shutdown, which was fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: We ended up going on else.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wonderland, we went on T-Cups, we went on We went on Winnie the Poo, we went on Pirates, we stopped a child with my friend Heather who was in the park.
[SPEAKER_00]: We stopped a child with my friend Nene who was also in the park.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was his birthday.
[SPEAKER_00]: We went to Plaza Inn, which I never do anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm gonna tell ya.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you work at Disney Accounting, fast forward about thirty seconds, do me a huge favor, just fast forward, don't listen.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine, you don't need to know what I'm about to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: We checked out, and my dad was like, isn't me or was that like pretty cheap?
[SPEAKER_00]: We got big platters of food, and I really haven't been back to Plaza Inn since before the pandemic, because you used to be able to go and buy one piece of chicken, and that was my hack.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd spend like four, fifty, I'd get a big old chicken breast, and now we're my protein.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was easy, peasy, done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you have to get the whole spread, let three pieces of chicken, with the vegetables, the potatoes,
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not out here really wanting mashed potatoes on a hot day, but they opened it noon and we got right and we were walked up at like, twelve o'clock and we were like, cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's lunchtime.
[SPEAKER_00]: We walked in.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a table inside.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was no stress or entire meal with my annual past discount.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I got a salmon plate, two fried chicken plates and my dad got a carrot cake was under seventy dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like sixty-two bucks or something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, each of our platters of food was around and possibly less than twenty dollars, which is kind of wild if you think about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that feels like real world affordable, not even Disney affordable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a pretzel with cheese is like eight something I think and I could get an act like half a chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: Half a chicken and like, sit and enjoy my meal.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was lovely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I noticed the soda fountains in there have a water tab and a soda tab.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I'm not gonna, I'm not out here getting like seven up and acting like, you know, like, buying a regular cup and getting seven up and not paying for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But soda water is in that liminal space where it's like kind of low key okay, because it's just water with bubbles.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a soda.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like, it's not a branded product.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just soda water.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can like go there and get like a big ol' meal and get your salsa and it's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying, oh, if you're an accountant and you're, um, you're back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Ha.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you didn't hear any of that, but truly like, what is steel?
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the vibe of the whole day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was beautiful out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a little hot, but it was totally fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we just had a really nice time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was really nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is one thing I will complain about though, because we are among friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is that I got a space coffee, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a cold brew black calf.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got, you know, the little cereal on top and the cream and the coffee.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so tired.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were all like, by two o'clock, we were like, oh no, do we go home?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they took a rest so they rejuvenated.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went and I was like, I got a caffeine because I'm driving.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I got to stay alert and drive and then Los Angeles traffic.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I went and I got a cold brew and I left talking day and I walked the back path and I finished this cold brew.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the time I got to rise with the resistance, like I got a little, I didn't even, I'd say, like, not even in the next land, like I was still walking past the rise queue and I was out of coffee.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, how is this even possible?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not chugging it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I looked at the cup and the cup was entirely ice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what I will say, the drink was like seven bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now that I'm looking at everything through fried chicken economics, well, Ashley really taught me a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, they're looking at everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, that's a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say it did caffeinate me enough to get through the rest of the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not a lot of coffee.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the entire cup was iced.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even enjoy it for more than about four minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just
[SPEAKER_00]: Bummer, you know, like I got this thing that I was so excited to get, and it was just instantly gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was kind of, I was upset about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't post a video, I didn't post anything, but I just thought it was kind of, you know, kind of lit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like those Disney blurs feelings.
[SPEAKER_00]: But otherwise, the rest of the day was great.
[SPEAKER_00]: We did a bunch of rides.
[SPEAKER_00]: took the modern rail back traffic was on our side on the way home.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just really, it was a really, really good day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And reminds me that I do kind of like the weird wacky way visit the park where I go and I do a few things and I come home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it also didn't remind me that my advice is still true that if you are going with a young kid, only focus on one
[SPEAKER_00]: possibly two things you absolutely want to do, and it really reshapes the way you have your day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of times you're buying a ticket, you have all this pressure, you have these lightning lanes, you're like so focused on doing too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a lot of mental load when it comes to visiting a theme park, especially with family, especially with children.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for us, it was like we have to go on it's a small world.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a small world is the one thing we absolutely have to do today, and then we'd also really like to go on at least two other rides.
[SPEAKER_00]: and we were able to do all of that so when we left we could have left a few hours earlier and still felt good like we did enough and I'm really grateful that we framed it that way and then we were able to kind of do everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean Pearl did nap at like six thirty p.m.
[SPEAKER_00]: and it was not pretty when we got home but regardless it was it was fantastic it was a really nice day and I'm really glad I got to go to Disneyland.
[SPEAKER_00]: with my family and just kind of kind of get that in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now since then, uh, we came home.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the middle of the week.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were exhausted for two days after.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I don't know why Disneyland sucked it on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's the heat, but I've been realizing like it's hot at all of these parks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, think about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hong Kong hot, Japan real hot in the summer, Florida hot, Disneyland hot, like, the Shanghai hot, like, they're all like hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, and it's just kinda like, oh, there's no way to escape this never-ending heat.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not gonna go on a rant saying that they need to be designing for this in the future because they're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there should be misting stations.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should be walking through like a misting tunnel when you go into any of these lands.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is like, oh no, like, I would love to go to these parks and that stretch of time when your hot is just expanding and expanding and expanding and it really makes me miss.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, like January, February.
[SPEAKER_00]: It Disneyland is just something good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, straight up we got to talk about Tom Sawyer Island.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Sawyer Island closed at Disney World and it's it's affecting me more than I thought it would.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is because again, this is an attraction I did not spend time on like
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't go out of my way to go to Tom Sawyer Island.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for rides.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here to be on the mainland.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be taking an investment somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_00]: I already took transportation to get here to the Magic Kingdom.
[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, it was only something I loved looking at, but it was not really a priority.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was not something that I thought emotionally resonated with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: But every time I think about the fact that it's closing, my stomach turns.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like genuinely, it makes my tummy feel bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes me like flip over.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not from the dairy, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not having dairy issues, but it really has like kind of affected me in a way I didn't expect.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, by the time this podcast came out, I may have written about this on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of was just trying to gather my thoughts today, and because the closure is happening a couple of days before you hear this, I may have already sent some of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But essentially, like,
[SPEAKER_00]: So I realize I kept thinking about why this is upsetting me and I realized what it is and I'm curious if some of you feel the same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think for me it's not that I like, oh, I want it to still be there like, oh, I always wanted to like, I love to go to time so I rely and it's also
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even like the decision that Disney is getting rid of water.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think water features are so important to the place making a theme park to make these lands feel real.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do personally fear what the new land will make the surrounding lands feel like.
[SPEAKER_00]: How will Liberty Square feel when the view outside is different?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is really a showpiece area that a lot of multiple other lands played off of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like everything from Haunted Mansion, all the way to Big Thunder plays off of the visuals of this waterfront.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I am really curious about how this new land will reflect that, how it'll make the other spaces feel around it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not even the thing that's getting me sad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in thing I'd be sad about them removing something that's so scenic, but that's not what's nagging at me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was something else.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't even nostalgia.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I have no memories really tied to this except for the one time I brought Pearl to be like, we gotta get those pics because it's closing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I never really, I never really have anything emotional tied to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I realized.
[SPEAKER_00]: I realized what it is that's upsetting me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it all goes back to the ish of the issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, this is a podcast not a magazine.
[SPEAKER_00]: It all goes back to the episode I did with Andrew Birthfeldman a few weeks ago about Muppet Vision three D closing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then episode if you've listened to it, if you haven't, go listen to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That episode could exist in nowhere else.
[SPEAKER_00]: That exists in nowhere else in the internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Me and one of the most talented performers in the world talking about the song that he felt compelled to write because of his disenfranchised grief over a muppets attraction closing.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's very amusing for ya.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that episode has just been sticking in my head a little time to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I realized like,
[SPEAKER_00]: what we said in that episode kind of applies to this too.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that while we love these parks like it does cause us a lot of grief and it like helps us process the different stages of grief and like this trauma over things closing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kept thinking like the muppets meeting upset about the muppets make sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a franchise I love.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an area of the park in a park I don't really visit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the area I spend most of my time in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something I like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like all these other reasons we're shadowing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I realized for Tom Sawyer Island.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the actual island closing that upsets me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fact that it's specifically here at this park.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Sawyer Island is the background to so many of our memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: So many of our memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking everything from a parade route, waiting in line for Haunted Mansion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there was a time as waiting in line.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the river boat went right right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it woke up as a baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, like having the views.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it is the background to so many of our memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kept thinking like, then why is this bothering so much?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just tied to these memories and don't have any exact issue with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I really believe that for people who care about Disney parks, Disneyland and Disney worlds, these parks have become this kind of like geolocation for our memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you think about it, like a lot of the memories from when you grow up, and a lot of things can be thrown in them, stout your bucket, and I don't think that is what's happening here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's that a lot of times your memories, like think of your childhood.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think of a house that you may have lived in that you no longer live in.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may think about an elementary school that you can no longer access.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't walk right in an elementary school and also like you're an adult, you can't just go in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You might think about a camp, a day camp, an overnight camp, places that you can't really access.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, your family downsize as your grandparents sell the house, move to a condo, or possibly move into assisted living, schools remodel, like everything keeps changing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The world keeps turning cities, and storefronts, and restaurants, clothes, and open, and change, and improve, and remodel, and things are constantly moving.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's true, it Disney Parks, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Disney World and Disneyland as a whole, like the general outline of them, somehow remains the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like they may build new hotels, they may knock things down, they may revamp rides, they may add new lands, but there are areas in many of these parks that never change.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Main Street USA, I was thinking about this a lot, like Main Street USA at Magic Kingdom.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're never going to open like a fancy new modernized hamburger joint with Canva menus.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're never going to close the family-run neighborhood diner here when you are in Main Street.
[SPEAKER_00]: time intentionally stops.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I say intentionally because that's how this was designed.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are theme parks.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are areas which are locked in time.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are locked in a story because story drives everything that the Walt Disney Company does.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so something like Tom Sawyer Island rivers of America, Liberty Square Riverboat.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are things that are locked in time.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are attractions.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't even go as far as say anchor attractions.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're time-stand still.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're never adding something new and modernized to Tom Swerre Island.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, these are places that have been locked in story and locked in time, and things that we never thought we'd have to say goodbye to.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not just the shock of them changing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fact that they really were the background to so many of our memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you think about it as much as I have, which is way too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been thinking about this all day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not kidding if thinking about this for hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to unpack why I'm bothered by this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why opening my phone and seeing videos of closing like why it's making me feel like not the same as regular closure room to support it or I'm also like, I'm disappointed, but I'm also optimistic about what could come because new experiences are coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one feels different.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that ambiguity and that kind of emptiness comes from the fact that so many other memories, other moments we've had, other nostalgia, not for these areas specifically, but nostalgia for other things in the parks are tied to this inexplicably and in a way that I didn't anticipate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like going forward when I look at
[SPEAKER_00]: Photos or videos or a lot of things from Magic Kingdom in a big chunk of the park.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be reminded that this area no longer exists in multiple lands like if you've ever taken a family photo in the the stocks, you know, like the sucks we put your hand that's what's called right we bring hands in your head in it like that if you've ever taken a photo in Liberty Square if you've ever eaten any of those restaurants like
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is kind of reflected back through the lens of this because it was there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was there at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now whenever we revisit these photos, these videos, these VHS is like, anytime we look back, our brain has to accept like, oh, that's not, oh, that's different now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's different now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's such a big footprint that touches so much of that park, that memory, just kind of like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you look at a photo, you look at an old video, you're kind of able to just enjoy it as is.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if the perks have changed, your Disney parks brain goes, oh, that's not there anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's different.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that kind of, like that, that jarring, the grab where pulls you out of the memory, it reminds you that time is always moving forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to remember how much things have changed and how life, like your life from the time of those photos and those videos has changed so much and how some of the people that you probably visited with are no longer there and how some people who you visit with now
[SPEAKER_00]: weren't there before and the two may have never known each other and it's just all of these thoughts about life and growth and time and existence and aging that now because Tom Sawyer Island and Rivers of America are no longer there you have to think through when you're merely looking at a family photo and I know that sounds
[SPEAKER_00]: Looney tunes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that sounds like way too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: That sounds like way too much for simply looking at a photo.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you change a big area of an iconic theme park like this, that is kind of the run-off of the change.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not what you expect.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought I'd be like, you know, I don't go to Thompson here Island that much.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't bother me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm bothered by the water being taken away visually.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a kinetic energy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to get rid of that's not the thing that's holding me up.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the fact that like,
[SPEAKER_00]: The ripple effect of all of my memories that I've ever had, all of the photos, like all of that, is now being bounced off this change in a way that I didn't anticipate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because while we have big land changes and big ride changes, we've experienced a lot of change in the past ten years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we have really, really gone through it as Disney Parks fans.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one hits different.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really strange because usually if I'm affected by a closure or a change, it's a property I am emotionally tied to, something I'm invested in, something I love.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this feels different.
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels different because it feels like it shifts so much of not of what's to come, but so much of our prior experiences, so much of what we felt about the parks in the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: And rarely to me does a change at the parks, kind of reframe decades of memories.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really, it's really interesting to get down to what I'm bothered about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that whenever I look at a photo, I'm going to go, oh, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's changed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are so much older.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: This family trip could never happen again.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the weight of that is so heavy and it's not being acknowledged enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious if you all feel the same way about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know many of us aren't out here like standing Tom Sawyer Island to the ends of the earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a beautiful space.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like those rock and chairs looking at Big Thunder Mountain Railroads, sick view.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, you know, it's something a lot of us do kids like to run around there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great place to just like have a view.
[SPEAKER_00]: Take a load off to go on the boat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, it's really, that's not what's bothering me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of just the retrospective all of it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: is what I'm hung up on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been pretty hung up on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just, it's a lot of change.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for this one, it really sticks out a lot to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stick around.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Disneyland wasn't the only significant trip of the past week, because I gotta tell ya.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's two things in the intertwined that I wanna tell you about.
[SPEAKER_00]: I drove my parents back to the airport and I was like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a quiet weekend after the Fourth of July.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't I just take my kid to the beach for a minute?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then today, I drove to Hollywood to meet up with Becky, and I hung out with her and I hung out with Blue Mongello, with WWE radio, who you all probably know about.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I went to Hollywood just to a hotel just to hang out with them for like an hour and a half before I came home to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And both of these experiences
[SPEAKER_00]: Truly like have unlocked something in my brain that began by watching an Instagram video last week that I swear has altered my brain chemistry and my entire outlook on life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the creator is named Sierra Campbell.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will share this in the show notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I watched truly one of their videos and was like, oh, you're gonna be the most famous influencer in the entire world in a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were just like the algorithm shoved them to me and I'm so grateful because they have this unbelievable series where
[SPEAKER_00]: They basically decide to treat their kids like tourists like her perspective is what if I treat my daughter like she's a friend visiting from out of town, which I think is so genius because it not only gets you over that hump of like, I don't want to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't go there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I don't want to do that, which like Hollywood and the beach are equivalent for an LA person, but it really got me out of my own head to be like, not only when I'm with my kid to be like, oh, this is something they've never experienced.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would like, but for myself specifically, whether I'm with friends or with her solo, to get me to do things I wouldn't usually do because I would make these excuses not to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Typically, I'd be like, oh, my friends at a Hollywood hotel?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm gonna Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or like, I don't, you know, well, I don't really go downtown.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really go to this area.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, definitely versions of this for no matter where you live.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you're like, oh, that's touristy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's played out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it really made me realize that it reminded me, because I think of this in terms of Disney all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't always think of this outside of the Disney sphere, which is that like, touristy stuff does affect your brain in a different way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just I was ten minutes from my house.
[SPEAKER_00]: I went to the Lowe's Hollywood Hotel and just being there and seeing people on vacation while like still wearing the air conditioning from when I just got out of the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just really made my brain feel like, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I live in a place that people
[SPEAKER_00]: put time in effort into visiting like this is my city and even though I wouldn't choose to go to that area of Hollywood like oh right like this is something to be grateful for like it really reminded me of of how special of a city I live in and same with just go into the beach I never go to the beach if you guys live near a beach you might go more often when I lived in Chicago I I worked at the beach I was okay
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still very special to do stuff that isn't in your normal routine, even if it's not a vacation, even if it's not driving very far.
[SPEAKER_00]: But just doing something a little different from your normal routine can feel so
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice, and I love that this creator like planted a seed in my head where I'm like, oh yeah, I might think of an excuse for why I shouldn't do this, but maybe a friend that go with might like, maybe it might be fun, maybe it might be silly, maybe it'll just like throw me out of my regular routine in my regular spots, and it really felt good, like it just, I realized like driving away from the hotel after hanging out with Becky, like I just was like, wow, that was really nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really nice to be in a different environment that I am used to, even if it's not when I would typically go out of the way to two.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think that's, I don't know, it just struck me as like worth discussing because I, I never really think that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think to have fun, you have to go on a fan, go on a vacation, you have to fly somewhere, you have to travel.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, no, you can have fun in your backyard constantly all the time, even if it's just the people you're with and not even the place you're in.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it really just kind of shook my brain up and made me think differently.
[SPEAKER_00]: It made me think differently.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was visiting Becky and Lou because they are having a group ABD.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the best way to explain it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're having an adventurous by Disney trip that they booked themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a private group.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a bunch of Luma and Shellows listeners and his audience and it's so cool because basically his audience got together signed up for this adventurous by Disney trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're all traveling through Los Angeles going to Walt Disney Imagineering, going to the studios, shopping at the stores, going to Disneyland.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all doing it together as a group.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just, it was so cool to like see people check in and have so much fun and everyone so excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just made me so excited for the group trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now group trip or a music pollusa as I plan on calling it is happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's happening in twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if I'm allowed to say that, but people were really worried.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know people were like, I mean, it's July.
[SPEAKER_00]: I completely get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should have said something outright, but I'm like not really supposed to say anything about any dates ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it is something that is happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are hurt it work on it and it just a lot of it is like me planning stuff at home trying to make sure things are the right fit because if you guys are flying somewhere for an event that I am planning it has to be one thousand percent worth you spending your money and your time you know me you know this is how I am and so just making sure that I can have that guarantee when other things like
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, whether closure spaces like things are all kind of influx.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a I'm putting a lot of pressure on myself to make sure that you have a wonderful time essentially that is my main goal.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to do weird wacky stuff and a lot of times that is hard to do at a place that
[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't make it easy to do weird wacky stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm kind of doing this, you know, a square peg in a round hole situation, trying to make sure that everything feels authentic to what we want and feels authentic to kind of my version of the parks without being just a straightforward event that anybody could be at ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of that is just, you know, me fuxing me trying to plant things, trying to push the boundaries here, trying to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had one really good idea that seemed so sick that would have blown everyone's mind and it got squashed.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all I'm gonna say.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not gonna happen, which is really sad because it would have been so
[SPEAKER_00]: So good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just not keep trying every year.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll try our best.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm basically trying to curate like a wonderful, wonderful, wonderful little trip for everyone who is inclined to come.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm usually planning that at home like thinking, not actually physically being in the space.
[SPEAKER_00]: And being there and seeing Lou and his group trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like Becky is basically the try.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to call her travel agent Zarr.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like Becky is there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, make sure everything goes great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Becky and her team are in charge of all of like the booking and the planning for this whole trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause it's like, I think it's like, you've like,
[SPEAKER_00]: book it all together.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a whole thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not handling any logistics.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just handling all of the planning over seeing it and then executing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They handle all the booking and so seeing like being kind of like at a group trip that they were doing and how excited everyone was.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just really inspired me and made me so happy and so excited to make this group trip happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: It will be a Disney world.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are figuring out the exact spaces and locations of things, which as you can imagine, it's basically planning a wedding.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's basically planning a wedding where via attendees pay to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best way to explain it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like the wedding has to be good.
[SPEAKER_00]: The wedding has to be good because it has to be good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm working really hard to make sure it is exactly what we want.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a ton of ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I can execute.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing my best.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just sworn to see grizzly and not allowed to say anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I've been quiet on the group trip front, that is why.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am so excited to share it with you and I'm so excited for all of us to spend time together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's really the best part.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like for me,
[SPEAKER_00]: starting the formerly was so special and unexpected because I just started that Facebook group because I'm like, everyone's damning me about cold foam.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should just talk to each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why am I?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I one on one with everyone?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're all talking about the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should all be friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's like when you have two friends who have similar interests and you're like, can the three of us hang out?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, why am I doing why are we annexing friendships here?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we should all be hanging out.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should all be
[SPEAKER_00]: chillin if we like the same stuff that's kind of in my perspective on life forever and so uh it's like inclusivity and so it's just really nice to be like like oh this is an opportunity for all of us to hang out in person to share experiences at Disney World in person and I am so excited about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't I can't I can't I can't say anything else I can't say anything else but I have like
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I guess, hmm, no, I can't say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have big ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had really big ideas, which got shut down because they're not allowed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I had meeting my ideas, which two are slowly, they're returning along, returning forward at the medium ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I have a lot of like, keep safe crafty ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's all I say.
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, like, okay, and this is really dating me, but when I was in a sorority in college, keep in mind, I went to University of Illinois.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the biggest panclanic school in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had the most sororities and fraternities in the entire world.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people were in them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't walking around and matching outfits with my friends like, hey girls, I was in a sorority with, I already knew half the people before I got in there from home, from camp, from stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like a very chill sorority.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I was a sorority when you get like your big sister or whatever, we got a bunch of stuff like we got a bunch of gifts and it was the maybe like the the present giving highlight of my entire life and it was just like they took like Jessica who was my big sister.
[SPEAKER_00]: She took like Sharpies and just wrote like my name and like different things on a bunch of objects and while that's not what we're gonna be we're not gonna be doing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna be better than that for the group trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just remember being so delighted to walk away from this experience with like personalized special things that were given to me and so I'm really hoping to That's a bar.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope to meet and hopefully exceed when it comes to the group trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have listen, I just want the best for everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm really
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's going to be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, in terms of regular life stuff, I have been thinking a lot about it being twenty twenty five and the fact that we're, I don't even want to say this.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're halfway, we're more than halfway through the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're more than halfway through the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a real reevaluation point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we have about six months left and I keep thinking and I'm really focused on how I'm reevaluating the way I I move through the world the way like the pinch points in my daily life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I spend a lot of this effort thinking that way for theme parks but not often for my own life in my own existence and I'm really trying to be better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to be better about the things that I'm knowingly bad at and still still do anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of zoomed, I zoomed out, I paused, I looked at it, and I realized I'm kind of failing at a few things in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: One is taking care of my health, which I am, you know, I didn't get a nice latte.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the first step.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am working on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I made doctor appointments.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're taking care of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Another is that I'm pretty disorganized in my business.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This, this business.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not an organized person.
[SPEAKER_00]: My podcast schedule is basically like a big ambiguous blob that I play off of vibes with.
[SPEAKER_00]: My schedule is not as determined by
[SPEAKER_00]: like it should be like analytics or like what podcasts perform best and like that's what a lot of other thinkers would do for a podcast business instead I'm like we don't want to these when we do one of these like I'm just trying to balance vibes if that makes sense which is not really how you run in editorial plot
[SPEAKER_00]: form, however, I just feel like it works.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, there needs to be the right flow between a review of the trip and an interview and just like, oh, catching up on regular stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're starting to hit that flow.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are some exciting episodes in the pipeline that add to that balance.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is like, it's something that just kind of comes together.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not mapping things out months in advance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we have some episodes slotted in.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a lot more fluid than you'd think.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the podcast that actually works.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I've realized is that the social media end of what I do professionally is not working.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the amount of times I go on a work trip, I take all this footage.
[SPEAKER_00]: I write down all these ideas for videos.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, not just videos where the means to the end is like, oh, I'm posting this video to like, get a follower to like a double down on a business.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I get a podcast listener.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not what I'm, that's not what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that I, like, my main goal in everything I do is to help people have a better experience when they are going on these trips because I know firsthand from my first trip, how confusing and overwhelming it can be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, ten years later, like, I know how expensive it can be.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you are committing to spending your free time, your money on these vacations that have only gotten more complicated over time, it's really important to me that you have the knowledge you need without having to essentially take a college course to learn how to do all of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, from that perspective, I, whenever, like Alaska, a new Disney cruise with Disneyland, Disney World, whenever I go to one of these places, I'm shooting so many videos and writing little notes being like, oh, I have to tell people this and I have to remind them of this and also if they do this, it's gonna make them easier.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then if they stay here and they do this, like, I have so many things I want to tell people, which is my job to share information.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just,
[SPEAKER_00]: because it's a video format and it requires editing that is not text-based.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have some internal struggle about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of like can't get over the hump of actually doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love to tell stories on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love to write things, but it's really personally hard for me to actually put together editing a video.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've realized that this failure, which I would call it, which I'm, you know, trying to look through from the next six months, trying to focus on like, where are areas that I can improve to make myself happier, to like, really not be bogged down by fixable problems.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times in your life, there are issues that are not fixable.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not solvable.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just kind of have to figure out how to move through them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, at this moment in time, the health issues aside, the real things that are kind of raining supreme when it comes to being stressed,
[SPEAKER_00]: and things that are weighing on me are things that I have the ability to solve.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want to and I've realized all of these things are linked because there are things I know I have to do but I also know I don't want to do them and I don't make myself do them.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, taking care of myself, making doctor appointments for health stuff that I've had since March, has taken me months to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I'm always telling people you gotta go to the doctor, you gotta go to the doctor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mom, don't worry, I'm fine mom.
[SPEAKER_00]: I keep putting it off and putting it off.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's another more, I'd say like, more accessible one when it turns to me taking care of myself is that I have a lot of physical issues right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a very big baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to get into it, but she was nine pounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a lot of, you know, if you listen, if you've gone through physics experience, you're like, oh, the details are bothering you.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you haven't, I don't, you don't need to hear about it here.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's just say physically demanding pregnancy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I have a lot of weaknesses and strength issues and postural issues that
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't solve, but I avoid doing the physical therapy and the stretches for them because I know I have to do them and I just don't want to.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's literally the core of all of my issues at the moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm telling you this because I feel like there's gotta be some of you out there that feel the same way because I don't think this is, I think this is a universal experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that this is just a personal thing I'm going through.
[SPEAKER_00]: because I've realized like we have been dealing with a lot for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all collectively lived through a pandemic.
[SPEAKER_00]: A once in a lifetime pandemic and we moved on.
[SPEAKER_00]: We just lived through it and shoved the trauma down and moved on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was hard for every single person.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was one of those rare occurrences where all of us were deeply affected by it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like I carry a lot of that silently with me without acknowledging it, without like working through it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like we have had hard times.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I don't want to speak in generalizations, but I think a lot of us even since then have had a lot more weight to carry.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much going on in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you are someone who is affected by that, it can really weigh you down.
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is moving faster and faster and faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no slowness anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just more information, more overwhelming, more videos, more things flashing at you when you open your phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like things never stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, this is something that I have control over.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have control over choosing not to do the things I need to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, and you might relate to this, it feels like it's just that life as an adult is hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're younger, you know, school is hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: School is very hard in all of the ages, either socially or like studying or getting grades or trying to graduate so that you can like go to college, paying for college, like everything, everything, everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: School is hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there was always this built in break where like school ends, like the school ends and then school begins again.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't have that as an adult.
[SPEAKER_00]: We just keep going and going and going and going and going.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like you gotta keep like making money to keep things happening and like just the the cyclical nature of being an adult is really challenging.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to me, it just feels like a little bit of a rebellion to push back against the things that I have to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's things I have to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a child.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to be making sure we have diapers ordered.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to be like, side and up for school, like, making sure all that's in order.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't have to do my hip mobility stretch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to make a video that I know is gonna take a lot of editing when I can just hang out for an hour and scroll through my phone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's these little rebellions I keep stumbling upon that are just like a little reward for me where it's like everything is overwhelming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything is hard everything is expensive everything is more difficult than it used to be but if I just kind of you know take a little time for myself that's my little version of self care and like I know I should be making videos explaining the reasons why you should book this Disney trip or like the pros and cons of booking in Alaska
[SPEAKER_00]: crew's, like little educational videos, that's what I really love to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: But rather than just yelling to my phone and have fun, these days I'm in pursuit of fun and need a little grain that I can get even if it's a little video, even if I'm like, just oot, take in ten minutes and just scrolling through and being delighted, scrolling is underrated.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know we're not supposed to be scrolling on our phones that much, but you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Scrolling's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is, and I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm about to tell you that I'm trying to be off my phone more, but to me, I think like, if you really, if you kind of hone in, if you spend like a little time scrolling through stuff, you can learn, you can be exposed to different people, different ways of life that you couldn't before, different cultures, different places.
[SPEAKER_00]: I rarely open TikTok.
[SPEAKER_00]: I opened it the other day, and I got sucked into a hole, which is bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's bad for ADHD, but I got sucked into a hole about,
[SPEAKER_00]: all of these different trips people were doing in Vietnam, which I don't really, I don't know anything about visiting Vietnam, but it was so cool to be like, I'm just standing in my kitchen eating some rice, like, unreal, I mean, I was just like eating dinner, I was like rice and chicken, it was really, it was coconut rice and chicken, anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just standing eating dinner being like, oh my god, like I'm just looking at these high-deft, beautiful videos of people's little trip diaries to Vietnam and like, that's nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think that's a really nice thing to have in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I am knowingly also using that to avoid the things I want to do and getting over that hump is really a struggle for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the reason I am talking about this on our podcast, because we're going to talk about Disney stuff shortly, I promise.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the reason I'm talking about this is because if you can at all relate to what I'm talking about, I want to pose something to you, which I am doing myself for the rest of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like committed to it for the rest of the year as much as someone you can't commit to things can commit to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is, whenever I want to avoid something, a little something, like putting something back in the trunk of my car, washing a dish that I don't want to wash.
[SPEAKER_00]: actually putting in the effort to be like, oh, I should have vegetables in the house because then I would eat them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, all of the even for the past twenty four hours is Fakasha and Krasant and a vegetable sandwich, which had no protein in it, and it shouldn't have ordered it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, all of these things that would set me up for success.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I, when I have those things that I usually avoid and be like, well, I don't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I tell myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: What would the twenty twenty six version of me do?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I stick to these small improvements and we're talking small things just small little mental changes and just really do when I want or what do what I need to make the real goals I have pay off like I don't want to live in pain.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be stressed leaving the house packing a bag in advance would sure be helpful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I do this small things that have a real pay off that I just can't get over that execution hump of now.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I start doing that now, they'll be routine by twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like six months from now, if I'm always putting stuff back in my car, then I don't, I'm like, oh, I don't want to walk the fine steps in my car.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I just do it now, I'll just be a person who naturally does it without thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the next time, if you are also kind of struggling with, I don't know, also this applies to like cleaning out that room, you don't want to clean out organizing that drawer, cleaning out your closet because a lot of your clothes no longer serve you, things like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have that stuff weighing on you, because it is all weighing on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: just wing on me.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you feel the same about anything like that in your life, join me in this, I don't want to call it a challenge, because I may never mention it again, but just join me in this perspective shift of what would the twenty twenty six version of me do?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it will help just kind of push through what's making us kind of just get through the sludge and not want to do it, because a lot of these things that we don't want to do, a lot of these errands, a lot of these chores, they take two seconds, they take like ten minutes,
[SPEAKER_00]: They take less than an hour, a lot of times.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've returned something that I haven't been wanting to return.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would take me twelve minutes and it's just weighing on me like the weight cost of it is beyond twelve minutes of writing it down to do us and never actually doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have six months to get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're gonna get there together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know this is a little different from what we usually talk about.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I felt like I had to mention it because it's really what is going on in my brain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can't stop thinking about like, oh, I have the power to really improve my mental health, my physical health, all of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I make the tiniest of changes, the tiniest of changes, like stretching, like taking off my Apple Watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I took off my Apple Watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I stopped wearing my Apple Watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been an Apple Watch devotee for so many years.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this week, I was like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm looking at my phone too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I took it off, changed my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I truly, like, just not having a screen on me that I glance at gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have actually, there's a negative to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have walked less because I don't have the reminders to stand.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not reminding me to move as much.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I am curious how much that'll affect me moving physically going forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it really has helped.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a lot of small improvements there that I can just kind of, you know, switch things up with.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's basically it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the majority of what I've been up to.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the coming weeks, I will be, I'm going to be going to New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: My plans are kind of in flux because like family toddler travel, but I am going to try to go to the Mission Impossible exhibit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's in the museum of the moving image.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have like one little window where I think I can get it in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a few other things I'm hoping to do New York that are new to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: But really, I'm gonna be out of town and then I come back and then there is a tentative trip that I'm excited to share with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is not booked yet, it is not finalized, but it's not a Disney trip, but it would include a little visit to Disney World, which I mentioned this, I don't know if it was to subscribe or not, but I booked a few nights in Disney before this other trip, and I booked Yacht Club, and I found a room at Yacht Club for three hundred and ninety dollars before fees.
[SPEAKER_00]: three hundred ninety dollars to got club so i booked that i'm like really hoping that everything works out right and get that stay possibly extended the other end maybe going universal maybe stayed a few other hotels that i'm visited um really hoping to do more Disney stuff going forward i will be at Disneyland on Disneyland's birthday so if you see me say hi uh i don't know if i'm going to see that's the day that the
[SPEAKER_00]: Walt Disney audio animatronic officially debuted.
[SPEAKER_00]: Press will be coming in a few days earlier.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will not be there, but it will be to the public on July, seventeen, which is next week.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am looking forward to seeing it, but I don't know if I'm going to see it that day, because I'm sure the lines will be long, long, long, long, long and I kind of just want to vibe and enjoy my day with my friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: to be honest, I will get there eventually, I'm local, but I'm not, let's say, it could be a robot of anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not waiting in a long line for a robot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not how I'm gonna spend my Disney Day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, I will see it, it'll be there forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will see videos of it even before I am there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited for that, and then there's some other stuff in the works for the rest of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of travel, some special guests coming up, people who are,
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people who create things that we adore that aren't often seen in media.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is, I think, the hint for a few of the people we have coming up, which I'm very excited about.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you have any calls, we're going to do a Charles Hotline episode, which I know we say all the time, but then, like, other things pop up where I'm like, oh, I would actually, I'd rather do this here and I'd rather do that there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, ambiguous scheduling.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing my best.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it works.
[SPEAKER_00]: It works.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to be very rigid about the schedule, and now I'm like,
[SPEAKER_00]: interest rate up works to just kind of flow with it and have things slotted in and if they change they change it's just made it's made the rule out of episodes more easy and as you can as you can see we have podcast all the time now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know last time I said that we have to take a week off.
[SPEAKER_00]: I pray that doesn't happen again, but there's a lot to be excited about with very amusing with the music polusa so stay tuned for details.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you liked this episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just chichan with my pals and I will see you next week with a totally different episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, thank you for listening.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though this is the outro, I feel like I could say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, talk to you soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at that.
[UNKNOWN]: Hi Carly, this is Chela, calling from New Orleans.
[SPEAKER_01]: And my husband and I are going on a road trip this summer, and we're going through Wisconsin, and I have this vague, faint tickling of a memory where you talked about the Wisconsin Dills, and I have looked through your episodes, and I cannot find an episode about the Wisconsin Dills.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did I dream it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would I have even heard of Wisconsin Dills if it wasn't because of you?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can point in the right direction or a guide or something, I would love to know what we need to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got two days there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to use them wisely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love the pod.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the deal, people.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you call the trolls hotline about Wisconsin, Dallas, my favorite
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the entire world, I know I love Disney, but it's kind of like tied for one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Before I was Wisconsin Doll's number one before I did this, Wisconsin Doll's number one for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, like Disney Parks was taken over.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wisconsin Doll's is kind of my one true love.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like my OG, like, you know, like my high school boyfriend, that is Wisconsin Doll's.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you call the chose, I'll find it by Wisconsin Doll's.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, but it will be pumped to the top of the list.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be answering immediately because there was another call I was gonna answer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sorry, but I have to answer this, especially since it's summertime, which is when Wisconsin Doll's thrives.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have not done a full episode on Wisconsin Delta yet because I haven't been there since I started the podcast my last trip there was Before the pandemic I think no no I was my brother was that during after were their masks oh my gosh at all of time is just shrimp shrunk but
[SPEAKER_00]: I am hoping to go to Wisconsin Dells again in the future possibly in the next year or so.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a full episode will be coming, but I need to go back because things changed so often there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just need to like go and check back in about all my favorites if we dedicate a full episode to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, I will be giving you a guide just a little hit list of stuff you got to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you were going to Wisconsin, I feel like you got to put a Madison.
[SPEAKER_00]: Madison, fantastic city Wisconsin Dells is like, we're like, forty five minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: forty-five minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll walk you also incredible if you can go to a brookers game.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have the mascots of little sausages in the race.
[SPEAKER_00]: They race.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is incredible the merch for the sausage race when I've been fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just listen to Wisconsin's like a low-key my favorite state.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm not from there, but I kind of wish I wasn't because I love it so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: When it comes to Wisconsin Dells, also there's a Jelly Belly factory on the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're dry, I don't know your path.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know your driving path, but there's a Jelly Belly factory.
[SPEAKER_00]: They no longer produce the Jelly Belly's there.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, they have a great Jelly Belly store.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can buy a bag of belly flops, which are misshapen Jelly Belly beans, which is really fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It used to be five bucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's not anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: I bet it's like, thirteen, ninety-nine, but it's a big ol' bag.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember, like, my best friend Reba, her dad would have, like, have them after a trip sometimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, being her house eating so many, so many belly flops.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, back to Wisconsin else.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, once you cross the Wisconsin border, you are going to want to drink spotted cow beer.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you are a beer drinker or you're like, you know, you have alcohol beverages, if you're open to one, I am not a beer drinker, but I drink spotted cow a hundred percent whenever I'm in Wisconsin.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very good and you can only get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: and Wisconsin.
[SPEAKER_00]: We seem like people love and exclusive.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's wonderful.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't recommend it enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: When it comes to Wisconsin dolls, it is basically like Vegas for children.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are gocarts.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are water parks that you've only seen in like those documentaries on cable TV.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are theme talks house.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many things, but the one thing you have to do, if you go to Wisconsin dolls.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you gotta go to Noah's Ark.
[SPEAKER_00]: You used to be like, fam, I don't want to listen.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll save it for the episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll streamline it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Noah's Ark is the waterpark I would recommend you go to.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is so much stuff there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many like go to more than one waterpark.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a totally normal thing to do to go more than one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to go to the Paul Bunyan Lumberjack Shanty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the lumberjack show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have never been to the lumberjack show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been weirdly opposed to it, but now that I went to the lumberjack show as part of my Alaska cruise, I'm like maybe into it, like I might do it next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I was at that lumberjack show, I was like, oh my god, I gotta get back to Wisconsin Dells.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like texting my family being like, can I tack this onto a Chicago trip?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to go to Wisconsin Dells.
[SPEAKER_00]: I miss it so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this restaurant, this lumberjack shanty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on, it's like, and I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got so excited I like ran out of air.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I go for breakfast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've gone for dinner when I was a child.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go for breakfast.
[SPEAKER_00]: David's putting down family style plates.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's still the way it was, I'm ninety-nine percent sure it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did go during COVID because I got food to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't just got something else recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: What was I thinking?
[SPEAKER_00]: Not doing it episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I do an episode?
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I guess we're just kind of doing it now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to go there and even if you need to eat there, but if you don't eat there, they have these powdered sugar donuts, like cinnamon donuts that you have to get.
[SPEAKER_00]: They sell them and you can take them away and just get them to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the ticket.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the best thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: to fall bun against lumberjack shanty restaurant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's, I don't want to overwhelm you with stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Denny's diner.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to overwhelm you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't overwhelm you, but that is a must.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, you got, just try through.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's wonderful.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so wonderful.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have so much fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope you had to go and enjoy the beautiful Santa Wisconsin.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a wonderful place, especially in summertime and I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so very much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for going.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, last thing, I can't record this without also talking about pizza pub.
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to blow past it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to blow past it, but I can't pizza pub.
[SPEAKER_00]: Incredible pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been going there since I was a kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what we would get pub.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was the pizza we would get when we were at camp, when we were working at camp, when I went back as an adult, pizza pub, fantastic pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic pizza, I wish I could remember the exact pizza I got the last time I was at camp.
[SPEAKER_00]: My overnight camp was like five seconds for Wisconsin bells.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I've been going there forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: The pizza I got, I feel like there was like fresh garlic and jalapenos and maybe spinach and like one other thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so black olives.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think those might whack and do pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: I ordered and we ate it around the campfire and other people were like, no gonna be good and it was so good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pizza pop, they deliver.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to get a pizza to your hotel room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yeah, we gotta do an episode of Wisconsin bells don't we?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I may have just done it, but we gotta.
[SPEAKER_00]: We gotta have so much fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so jealous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hi, it's Mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just getting back from LA.
[SPEAKER_02]: I miss you already.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a great day with you in Pearlwood Disneyland.
[SPEAKER_02]: We made it like a nine or ten ride.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so much fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And your Pearl is a trooper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep going and going.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you never cry.
[SPEAKER_02]: See is one hundred percent you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to the sweet young couple that we saw that young doctor window.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Carly, they're very amusing listeners and they were so cute and so sweet, happy, seven anniversary tables.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ashley Eckstein, what can I say about her?
[SPEAKER_02]: She has everything you described to her.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's the sweetest and the kindest person.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've met her a couple of times and I just love her.
[SPEAKER_02]: But seeing Disney and Star Wars emerging together and seeing the bear at that moment, she is iconic, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: and friends with Quasie must look correct me up at sixteen while working at Disney Hollywood Studios is hysterical.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alice in Wonderland collection designed by Ashley.
[SPEAKER_02]: She really is Alice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always going to look at her that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Forty rides on her fortieth birthday the girl should have a metal from Disney.
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that gold.
[SPEAKER_02]: Achieve.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: In a word?
[SPEAKER_02]: How I feel about Ashley?
[SPEAKER_02]: She's so real.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is so refreshing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just adore her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great episode, honey.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love you, Carly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So much.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love you, Pearl.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so, so, so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk to you on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bye, Jenny.