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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll take a top five songs of nineteen eighty four countdown.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A Chevy Chase movie matchup and a Chevy Chase movie matchup and put it on the D Graves tab.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Hello everybody and welcome back to the Shirley.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Do you hear that?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Was it Dickford?

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[SPEAKER_10]: What's the difference to be with?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Welcome back to the Shirley.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You can't be serious podcast everybody.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I just sent my partner up on that one.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm Dr. Mill Bards.

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[SPEAKER_10]: This is Dr. Rosen Rosen.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Dr. Rosen.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We are here discussing for the second time European vacation.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Fletch and spies like us three hit movies for Chevy Chase in nineteen eighty five trying to decide which of the three are the best and which is the worst.

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[SPEAKER_10]: and talking about all kinds of fascinating facts.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You've were coming back to us for episode two.

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[SPEAKER_10]: If you haven't seen it, go check out episode one.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We're in the middle of talking about these movies and we're to how we got to spies like us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chevy Chase was so hot in nineteen eighty five people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think sometimes maybe sleep on his commercial appeal and the mid-eighties.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It was huge.

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[SPEAKER_10]: If he was in a movie, I wanted to go see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, his commercial appeal was off the charts.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, so we talked last week about how John Landis didn't want Chevy Chase in Animal House and so reverse psychology tricked him out of doing it.

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[SPEAKER_10]: But then Landis, when he gets tapped to direct this, he wants Chevy Chase to come in, but did you know that Chevy Chase was not the original guy they had a mind when they wrote this script?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did, but I didn't know until I studied.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell me who the rich.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So this script was written by Dan Akroyd, of course, from the movie, you know, and from Saturday Night Live.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And Dave Thomas, who is a huge guy with, second sit with S.C.

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[SPEAKER_10]: TV, one of the McKinsey Brothers, a him and Rick Moranis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the same Dave Thomas.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So they wrote this, he and Dan Akroyd wrote this script together, a couple of Canadian guys, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And the original two people to play these parts were Dan Acroid and John Balushi, of course, because Balushi and Dan Acroid were in everything together back then.

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[SPEAKER_10]: But obviously Balushi passes away.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And of course, Landis had directed Balushi and Acroid in the Blues Brothers, not too long before Balushi passed.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Um, so it's really interesting that he gets tapped to direct this movie that would have been another buddy movie for them, but it was a brilliant move, you know, it's kind of like, I mean, Ghostbusters, right?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Ghostbusters that they just the year before Dan Acroid is the one that stepped into the part that he had written for John Bolushi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And so you get this moment where you've got a guy who's on absolute fire directing a guy a couple of guys who are on absolute fire as far as their movie appeal goes and bringing in some bucks.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And I can remember as a kid watching Cisco and Ebert and they both just dumped all over this movie.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I had a buddy who was like

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[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, I'm going to go see spies like us.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Do you want to go?

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[SPEAKER_10]: And I was like, nah, I heard it's going to be terrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: What a fool I was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I have, of course.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Obviously, when it's out later, and I was just like, these guys are idiots.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm never listening to another thing they say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is so neighbor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure they even like movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are super cool.

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[SPEAKER_10]: They also hated better off dead, right?

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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, what the heck?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They ridiculed better off dead than terrible.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It is terrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna own up to something I said that was really stupid this week Okay, yeah, so when you and I were talking and I wasn't even gonna ring this up I was gonna let us lie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I hear I am here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am okay, so confession time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I said to you I said I think John Landis has just gotten incredibly lucky throughout his career, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, what are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's look at the list of movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I started to make, so in my head, I'm like, okay, trading places and coming to America, that's Eddie Murphy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's all Eddie Murphy power, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, at this one, it's Chevy Chase's, you know, but he, look at this list, okay, I've got the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got the list, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So John Landis has directed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep in mind, these are going to be in a row without any interruption.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Animal House, Blues Brothers, American World Finland trading places.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Twilight Zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bad luck on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a smidge, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still a good segment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Twilight Zone was very good.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Uh, by the way, go back to checkout last season.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We covered Twilight Zone the movie versus creep show with our friend Amanda Jannick High Amanda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so after Twilight Zone, when he thought he might go to jail, he comes back strong with the thriller video, then spies like us three amigos coming to America and uh,

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[SPEAKER_10]: later he does Beverly Hills cup three which we trashed right that was that was after he fell off the cliff but i mean he was soaring up the ramp like without a break boom boom boom boom boom hit after hit after hit yes he had the eighties comedy magic and i told you

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[SPEAKER_10]: The problem was, is that in the nineties, when everybody went back to the realism of the seventies, he decided to go even further with his physical airplane like humor, and nobody was interested.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And then he teamed up with Rosanne's ex-husband.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm a stupid.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Was it palmarinal?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to drop this, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Dan Acroid, you know, he, he's known for SNL, but successful screenwriter as well, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just listen to this list of movies that he has at least participated in the screenwriting process.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blues Brothers, Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Spice like us, drag net, cone heads,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing but trouble and off here a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing but trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing but trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what your favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that movie sucked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, sucked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard him talk about this movie actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he had kind of disowned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said the reason why it did so poorly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He thought it was kind of clever, kind of funny, which I disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably talking about nothing but trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing but trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did nothing but trouble fail so harshly?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, because of what it opened up against.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, in fairness, the silence of the lambs was a big movie in ninety one.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sleeping with the enemy with Julia Roberts was a bit, I mean, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was buried in that wake, but it also was terrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It also did Blues Brothers, two thousand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at you, Jeff Dave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Dave says that's the worst sequel ever made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But John Landis, Dan Akroyd, times Chivie Chase.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It's a recipe for success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a recipe for success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the cast of Spice Like Us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, not a whole lot of people in this, but a ton of cameos.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Some crazy cameos.

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[SPEAKER_10]: This is really what I would love to talk about on this movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously, you've got Chivie Chase playing Emmett Fittume.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What can you say we aren't spending millions on spraying when the international report has reported.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I quote, extensive contamination in the grain fields of southern Argentina.

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[SPEAKER_07]: The state, ever, that's because our headphones cutting out on us, I'm awfully sorry.

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[SPEAKER_07]: However, it's an unshaped, so I must go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got Dan Akroyd playing Austin Millbarge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a static-filled triple-scramble microwave transmission between two soldiers talking in Mandarin Chinese.

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[SPEAKER_06]: While the Chinese were only using a simple polyphenetically group-twenties where digit key transposed in booster-vidonic form with multiple nulls, broke it with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A drogans to coat a wheel, they put these things into cereal boxes for kids.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I found it a box of lucky chargers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Acroid fresh off a ghostbusters, Chevy Chase fresh off a flesh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have Donna Dixon who plays Karen one of the other spies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was the hottie on bosom buddies that Tom Hanks was always chasing around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was in Dr. Detroit where she met and fell in love with

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dan Akroy, who is she dating before that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was dating Paul Stanley of Kiss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was engaged.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was engaged to Paul Stanley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dan Akroy stole Donna Dixon away from Paul Stanley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: International Rockstar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had just come off a relationship too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dan Akroy had just left a relationship with Carrie Fisher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Princess Leia?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who left Dan Akroy to go to Paul Simon?

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[SPEAKER_00]: after having an affair with Harrison Ford.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, all kinds of Paul singers involved in this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but Donodix and after being married for nearly forty years, they just recently got divorced, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, she was also in the twilight zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's a stewardess in the John Lithgow segment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think we both come in.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Which Dan Acrode was in that segment as well.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Because that segment ends with him in the ambulance.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You want to see something scary?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So also in Spice like us, you have Bernie Casey.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, now we're getting with AFPSR.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Air Force passive strain response.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Like me as a name?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he's the history teacher on Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also plays Felix lighter and never say never again with Sean Connery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He plays the head gargoyle in the old movie Gargoyles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he plays Colonel Rambus in Spice like us.

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[SPEAKER_10]: What's it say?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's in for just a minute, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of people have bit parts in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And I love his part because he's so serious throughout the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Just when they're just putting them through these ridiculous like sudden impact collision.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Right, survival.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, floatation device, uh, optimization.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's dragging behind a boat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Bernie Casey's the guy who's like, I'd hate to have to kill you now, boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The person who plays the test monitor is Frank Os.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might know him better as Miss Piggy or Yoda or Yoda.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but he's also a well known director.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark that down.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Put a little check mark next to director.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, because we got some interesting ones coming up here.

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[SPEAKER_10]: If you haven't seen, if you haven't noticed what's going on, it's a shocker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I forgot to mention this, Paul Stanley wrote the song, Tears Are Falling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you have Bruce Davidson who plays Ruby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also plays the guy who turns into like watery jello in the expan.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_10]: He's the guy with the glasses at the beginning of the movie who puts the other guy in the closet so that they can look at the top so you could agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You're just an idiot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you have in the doctor scene when they go to Pakistan and they're being introduced themselves as doctors and they're they're going to a doctor doctor doctor doctor Doctor Doctor which is a joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still use today in fact I called somebody my church the other day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, hey, how's it going on my doctor?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Everybody says doctor.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You got another right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are our newly arrived surgeons Dr. Trevor Jean Greenbaum Dr doctor doctor doctor doctor doctor doctor doctor doctor doctor

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[SPEAKER_09]: Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor Doctor

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[SPEAKER_10]: Terry Gilliam is one of the doctors.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so Terry Gilliam, again, bringing it back, he's the guy who wrote and directed most of the Monty Python bits and skits, man.

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[SPEAKER_10]: He's the Monty Python guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Did, of course, Brazil, and I think he did twelve monkeys.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Well, monkeys, time man, it's, he's great.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, he's great.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And the one American among them all, and if you don't know what he looks like at the beginning of the Holy Grail, he's the guy with the coconuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have cameos by BB King.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blue's great BB King.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blue Seal is noticeably absent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a cameo by Bob Hope.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Mind if I play through?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Dr. Dr. Glad I'm not sick.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Bob Hope.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So I literally, as I watch this movie, I like those Bob Hope being cross-be traveling, you know, road to wherever movies when I was a kid.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And I literally, I can remember having this thought as I was like, this is kind of like the old

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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm hoping.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Crosby Terry.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And then Bob hope shows up and I'm like, what the heck?

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[SPEAKER_10]: So it instantly like warmed my heart and I felt a very strong fondness for this movie.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He even gives you a classic Bob Hope line like Drs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Glad I'm not sick.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Mind if I play there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have Sam Ramey in this movie.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So hold on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So I noticed this years ago.

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[SPEAKER_10]: because I don't even know how, I was just like, that guy looks to a millionaire.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And so I went and looked him up and I'm like, that's Joel freaking Cohen in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,

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[SPEAKER_10]: Now, these guys obviously went to be went on to be incredible directors like the co-in brothers, I don't need to say more, right?

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[SPEAKER_10]: But this was this is before raising Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_10]: This is before the Big Lebowski before the headsets at Caproxy before Barton think

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[SPEAKER_10]: before Al-Fargo, all of those things.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And this is when Sam Ramey is just come off of one move.

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[SPEAKER_10]: He's just got the evil dead.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Like no evil dead too, no army of darnness.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And these two guys work together.

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[SPEAKER_10]: later on crime wave, but the only relationship they had with each other was that Joel Cohen, when he had just graduated from NYU and is like, looking for work, like he is nobody, he gets a job as an assistant editor on evil dead.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And so they may have kind of known each other.

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[SPEAKER_10]: But land is just at that time identified these two kids.

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[SPEAKER_10]: He's got, you know, one's got blood sample, the other's got evil dead.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And he's like, hey, we're shooting the scene, you guys want to come, be guards with guns.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And so you get these two guys who would become incredible directors.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Sam Raimi, simple plan has done.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Obviously, all of the Army of Darkness stuff did the first Spider-Man movie.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he's just incredible.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And it's all these two guys when they're basically kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, one of my mom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sam Ramey goes on to do the Spider-Man trilogy with Toby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Toby McGuire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, you also have a cameo by Martin Breast.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Martin Breast who at this time would have just been coming off of Beverly Hills.

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[SPEAKER_10]: and go back and check out our war games episode because he had also just recently gotten fired off of war games and just dumb luck happened to get.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I got a little bit of coin flipped a coin to decide to direct Beverly Hills cop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to believe Landis' relationship with Beverly Hills cop and Martin Brest had something to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's before Landis and Murphy had a falling out, but

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[SPEAKER_10]: before and then after, right?

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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, because obviously, Landis and Murphy get together for coming to America, but the first Beverly Hills cop is Martin Breast.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Landis doesn't become involved until after they have their falling out over on a coming to America.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And then Eddie Murphy says, it's more likely that what was his name, Vic Moro.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, more likely, Vic Moro will do a movie with Landis than I will.

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[SPEAKER_10]: But then they go into

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[SPEAKER_10]: Beverly Hills cup three, which I mean, I still think he's right because that was not a movie.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That was a steaming pile of Sumo Dung.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember we did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did Beverly Hills cup three versus just three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what the heck happened?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you were like, there's no way this can be worse than just three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were like, just hold onto your socks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could not believe it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have Ray Harry House is one of the doctors.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So Ray Harryhausen is the guy who did the clash of the Titans and Jason and the Argonauts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jason and the Argonauts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And do you remember when John Land is decided he wanted to be a filmmaker?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was from watching Jason and the Argonauts, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So he went home after seeing that movie and said, hey, ask his mom.

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[SPEAKER_10]: He's like, what do they call the guys who make these kind of movies?

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[SPEAKER_10]: And she said they're called directors.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And he's like, that's what I wanted to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also have Derek Meddings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the doctors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was involved in the visual effects for like Moon Raker and Batman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a big visual effects guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but there's two people I wanted to bring up to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if they cut your eye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first one, her name is Heidi Swarinson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Google search.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Google search shows the playmate of the month for July,

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[SPEAKER_10]: She plays Chevy Chase's supervisor, who he's hoping to sleep with in order to get out of having to take the test.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You're not going to be some bullsh** about you dying.

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[SPEAKER_10]: No, not now.

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[SPEAKER_10]: She was the hooker in Friday night.

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[SPEAKER_10]: She was in the hooker in Friday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Check out Friday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He talked into icing her nips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right for that scene in particular.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I forgot about that.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That's like it was that was

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[SPEAKER_10]: Is that season one that we did?

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[SPEAKER_10]: And a season one.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Go check out season one right night versus the lost boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a fun episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the lovely Vanessa Angel who plays the Smoking Hot Russian Garsian who sleeps in underwear and a parka.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And that's all.

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[SPEAKER_10]: See through underwear.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, she was nineteen at the time.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Hey, so I was, I was twelve at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's totally fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's totally fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, listen to this connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we all saw Spice like us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you saw Spice like us, you know who we're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She melted the camera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She ends up in bed with Dan Akroy at the end of the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So leave it out.

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[SPEAKER_10]: He's like fifteen minutes ago.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I destroyed the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fifty minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to this connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This strange surely you can't be serious connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Vanessa Angel played Lisa in the weird science television series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Flashback to our weird science episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just talked about a few weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like a

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[SPEAKER_00]: a Shirley podcast plug episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got maybe not all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait for this though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was also in, stop or my mom will shoot, which we talked about pretty extensively in our Rambo vs. Commando episode from each episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is going to pretty much do it for your cast of Spice Like Us.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So let's talk some tidbits real quick.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And then we got a mentioned one song.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We got a mention a song that is a hit song from one of these movies.

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[SPEAKER_10]: that is by an incredibly famous artist and you may have no memory of it whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's go through these tidbits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've covered a lot of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we know that Acroid and Belushi were supposed to be in spies like us, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know about a hit song that we'll talk about here in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know about the cameos by all the directors and Bob Hope and this and that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my tidbit for you on spies like us, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this movie was filmed in Norway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They built for the Russian part, for the Russian part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They built a Russian missile launcher for the movie in Norway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when the US Secret Service Special Ops people noticed it on satellite images, there were some hard questions that were asked about why is there a Russian missile launcher in Norway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they had to tell them, like, we're filming a movie and it's a prop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But of course it says CCP on it and all kinds of stuff on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cold War, eighty-five.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I get to say pretty spot on on the special effects on this movie, right?

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[SPEAKER_10]: The satellites and the missile launch and all that stuff pretty well done stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got some tidbits for you on Fletch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so I've got some tidbits for you from Fletch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we already talked about how Fletch was a series of eleven books written by a Gregory McDonald and how he had kind of final say on who would be cast as Fletch.

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[SPEAKER_11]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a meeting with Chevy Chase and basically sort of crowned him King Fletch, you know, just gave him his blessing as Fletch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what he didn't appreciate was the rewrites to some of the screenplay stuff that he had written.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he wrote a letter to the studio saying, look, I don't appreciate this, change it back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Michael Richie, the director of Fletch, took him to dinner and sort of nicely explained why, well with Chevy, you got to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why we do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And basically said, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gregory McDonald, his quote was, I was beautifully chewed out.

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[SPEAKER_11]: Ah.

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[SPEAKER_10]: you got to say listen man books and movies are not the same thing and everything that you know you don't get to have it you're well you can't they can't be the same especially if you've got Chevy Chase as your star you've got to have some in-product moment that's right absolutely

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we also talked about, we've already, in our previous episode, we mentioned how the eighty-four Olympics was in town in LA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had to move around shots because of the Olympics and had to avoid the crowds and that type of thing, which I find fascinating, because that's such a moment in time for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had deleted scenes where Chevy Chase played a hockey player and a baseball player, and that explains the Tommyless sort of line where why he hates Tommyless sorta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's when I went, ready to drop on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the hat that he puts on his head at the end of Fletch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've survived, they're back of the newspaper, Gail Stanwick is there, and he's like, I want to take you to a later game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I don't want to go to a later game, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and he talks the paper, somebody, and to give him the tickets to Rio, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to use the tickets to, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he puts the ball cap on before they leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you recognize that ball cap?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That ball cap was the same ball cap that Dean Stanton wears in the movie Alien and in fact it says Nostromo on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the Nostromo hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How about that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now then the production of Fletch, the guys in charge of Fletch, beg the movie studio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, we need this final scene in Rio to kind of cap our movie off, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so sort of be grudgingly the studio okay for everybody to fly to Rio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the entire time they're in Rio, it's just pouring rain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they couldn't go anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they couldn't leave because if the sun came out, it was like, go time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We go down there and fill them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one scene, they wanted to be walking on the beach in the sun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just never got that shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you'll notice at the end of Fletch, it's cloudy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's overcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's wet kind of cold looking in rain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody on the beach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They said that the studio after three weeks of being in Rio was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: get the shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, one of the songs, kind of a minor hit is a song called Bit By Bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My Stephanie Mills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Catch you tune.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why it didn't rank higher, especially when compared to this other song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about here in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But one of the unused pieces of Harold Faultmier's music from this movie, that

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went on to use it in the movie Top Gun, where it became the Top Gun anthem.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That's how we was able to write it on the car ride from dinner with Jerry Brumfimer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This movie opened second the week it was released, finished behind Rambo, which was huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen any of the sequels to flesh?

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[SPEAKER_10]: I've seen Fletch lives.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I didn't see the reboot.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I heard they were trying to do like a prequel.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Like Kevin Smith had tried to do a prequel with Jason Lee as Fletch called Fletch one.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, and yeah, but basically the studio said that Jason Lee didn't have enough star power to pull it off and never got anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, even before that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So first of all, I love Fletchliffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm one of the lone defenders of Fletchliffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you the headhunter?

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[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Sir, Headly Dan Duke, and what seems to be your problem is I agreed to take a s***load of that blue bird crap over your hands and it ain't coming yet.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm very sorry.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Sir and you are.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I are pissed.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Some damn food told me it was on back order and I'd have to wait.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Who signatures this?

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[SPEAKER_09]: You signed that one?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, that's the trouble, it's typical of a large corporation.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Like of communication, that's why I like to keep every small.

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[SPEAKER_09]: All you're from Everest?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Now you're talking?

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[SPEAKER_09]: Elmer Gantry, Elmer Foot Gantry.

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[SPEAKER_09]: I'm Mr. Gantry, I'm not sure there's anything I can do.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you could pull my file instead of standing there, pulling your part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chevy Chase and Kevin Smith met to do like a fledged part three with Chevy Chase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Kevin Smith, so disliked Chevy Chase that he's like, forget this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not gonna work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do a prequel with Jason Lee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I did see, I think it's called confessed fledged with John Hamm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that came out in twenty twenty two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not iconic like this, but it was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, tidbits from European Vacation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Dad, I think he's going to pork her.

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[SPEAKER_08]: He's not going to pork her recipe just eat okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he is Dad.

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[SPEAKER_08]: He may pork her recipe okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we talked about the incredible love story between Helldramus and Amy Hackerling.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you'll notice throughout the movie, there are some throwbacks to the original vacation movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chubby Chase is wearing his Wally World shirt, which is fun, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beverly Angelo continues to call him Sparky, which I guess that was her idea to have that sort of affectionate term for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She uses it in all four vacation movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it was shot all around Europe except not at Stonehenge.

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[SPEAKER_10]: They did not really knock down Stonehenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they had a three quarter sized Stonehenge build in like they did not get a Germany even though they had the whole scene in Germany.

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[SPEAKER_10]: They went to a part of Italy that is predominantly German speaking to film those parts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about how Amy Herkling Chevy Chase did not get along at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She could not stand him, which I just don't know how you work so closely with somebody that you hate like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a typo on the spelling of Griswald on their passports at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, or an A. Is it know or is it an A?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then finally, the movie poster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: of European vacation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very similar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Conan style movie poster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think those are some of the best movie posters of the eighties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we ready to talk about the hit song?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Here it is.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Song by Sir Paul McCartney, formerly of wings.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And another band The Beatles.

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[SPEAKER_10]: the B.A.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Tolds or something?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yep.

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[SPEAKER_10]: He had a song in the movie, Spies Like Us, and a video was made for the movie that featured Dan Acroid and Chevy Chase taking part in the recording of the song, even though they weren't actually involved in the song.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I cannot believe this.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I heard this, and I was just like, I don't remember the song at all.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Ten hit.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It peaked at number seven.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Here it is, Spies Like Us by Sir Paul McCartney.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How in the heck?

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[SPEAKER_10]: The best song hit number seven.

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[SPEAKER_10]: This is the same in nineteen eighty five was eighty six.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It was eighty six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was eighty six.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It was still come on.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You guys I'd got to know this is a top ten.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I really got to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so this is early eighty six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, this is February of nineteen eighty six.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Really curious about

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[SPEAKER_10]: Number eight number nine number ten like who did spies like us beat all right, so let's start at number ten Okay, yeah, so Konga by the Miami-Sounds machine was at number ten fantastic song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, eighties iconic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, listen to all the eighties iconic songs in this top ten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah number nine living in America by James Brown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, number eight talked to me by Stevie Nicks

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't remember that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seven spies like us by Paul McCartney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Six curie by Mr. Mr. Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love that song.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How will I know by Whitney Houston?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When the going gets tough by Billy Ocean at number four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't like it, but it was big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was with the jewel of the Nile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go back to our worst sequels of the eighties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The movies are hitting hard in this top ten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three, I'm your man by wham.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my favorite wham songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, burning heart by survivor from the movie, like you four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then number one, that's what friends are for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Deon Warwick, Elton John, Gladys Knight, and Stevie Wonder.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Paul McCartney song, I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you have live and let die has one of the greatest movie songs of all time uh-huh and then you have this piece of crap yeah it was his last top ten hit until like two thousand fifteen like thirty years go by before he gets another top ten hit you know there was a line from the Gilmore girls to watch the Gilmore girl watch it all time yeah it's a funny funny show and uh... the mother was telling the guy's name i can't remember his name whatever

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, all you need is a hit song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, a hit song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paul McCartney has not had a hit song in the past thirty five years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All I need to hit song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I was watching that, I was like, I was like, yes, this is the last hit.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We've reached the end.

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[SPEAKER_10]: These are three movies.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I'll release an eighty five all starring Chevy Chase.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And I would you like me to go first?

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[SPEAKER_10]: Would you like to go first?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you gonna hurt my feelings, so you go first.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, yeah, I don't have any problem with that.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We've been doing this for six years now, I've ever hesitated because I was gonna hurt your feelings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Although I did feel bad when I called you after watching First Blood and Rambo.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I was just like, he's, I'm gonna break your freaking heart right now.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Anyway, so this is one of those situations where my first impression remained my impression all the way to the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So I have not seen European vacations since I saw it in nineteen eighty five in the theater and I didn't like it then I like it a little bit better now but not much so it's like it like you do not you don't like it at all like as a kid I saw it and I was like

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[SPEAKER_10]: man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Fine.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You know, just nothing.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it was, it was coming on the heels of vacation, which was monumental to me.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I love vacation.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So it was a big disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And so then probably a bigger downer.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And then I didn't watch it for thirty years.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And then I watched it for forty years.

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[SPEAKER_10]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Forty, forty, not thirty.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Thirty years ago, it was nineteen ninety five boys and girls.

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[SPEAKER_10]: This is nineteen eighty five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So, forty years go by and it got a little bit better with age not much.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Eric Idol is a brilliant part of the thing, but this obviously dead last for me.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Fletch is one of those movies I didn't actually catch in the eighties.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I think it was I was a teenager or maybe even my early twenties before I saw Fletch for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_10]: which was a hard time to watch a comedy movie from the eighties because of all the movies that were so realistic and hard hitting in the nineties.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And so I thought it was good, but I didn't think it was great.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Since then revisiting it, I mean it's one of those iconic, quotable movies and I see why everybody loves it.

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[SPEAKER_10]: I definitely am much funnier movie than European vacation.

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[SPEAKER_10]: But number one spot for me has got to be spies like us, which is why it absolutely blew my mind when you're like, I think John Landis got lucky.

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[SPEAKER_10]: What?

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[SPEAKER_10]: What?

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[SPEAKER_10]: So, you know, and that one was probably because I had such low expectations coming into it, because Cisco and Ebert had said it's a sucked.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And I want to watch them like these guys are idiots this movie is hilarious and even when it takes you out of the movie whenever Bob Hope shows up or whenever Dan Acroy looked at the camera and

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[SPEAKER_10]: And it's like the aha moment and and Chevy Chase just being has always winking at the camera self.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It's just fricking funny from beginning to end, even in all of it's absurdity.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You have Dan Acroated is best.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You have Chevy Chase at his best.

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[SPEAKER_10]: You have John Landis at his best.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And with that combination, there's no way it can't finish.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Finish number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're actually destroying a theory that I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My theory is that the reason why people don't appreciate European vacation as much as they should is that the jokes have to do with Americans visiting Europe and since most people have not visited Europe, they don't get those jokes, but you've been to Europe.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you destroy my my theory as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get it.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It's just not funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I still I quote all three of these movies all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say Dr. Dr. Dr. Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then European vacation big bin parliament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, it's sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He time ago somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one line, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the one line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, number three is spies like us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I called you the other day, and I said, I was ready to kind of not like spies like us as much, because I wouldn't have thought it aged as well, because it's kind of, it's, it's really absurd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's unrealistic, it's weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a whole thing with the Taliban, where the Taliban is like, there are allies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't age very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is absurd, but I told you, I laughed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the cheating scene, when Chevy Chase is cheating to try and pass the test, he's got a third arm, and he's got stuff in his mouth, and he's looking at his eye patch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's freaking hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's really funny stuff in this, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I wasn't expecting to like it as much as I did, but it still finishes third for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, I honestly think I am the person who loves European vacation the most out of anybody I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's clever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I identify with that stuff as a dad and I've been on vacations where my dad is out of control and wants to do

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to kill the family and yeah, and I can be Griswald in fact we have a term when we go on vacation You need to stop being so Griswald because that's my tendency is like let's go see more fountains, you know But I think I think European vacation is funny, you know when they they see Rusty with the hooker and he's like oh I'm going my good man So I think it's funny I enjoy European vacation even though it's tends to get a little silly sometimes

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, I think Fletch is far and away the best movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably the funniest movie, to me, of these three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it also has serious moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's actual life and death moments when the chief is pointing his gun at Fletch, and he's like, actually scared of getting killed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's real tension, there's real menace, and yet is somehow still extremely funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, it's Fletch one, European vacation two, Spies like us three, although I live a mall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can't really go wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we want to hear from you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you rank these three?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your gold, silver, and bronze?

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[SPEAKER_10]: tons of fun with that, and all of our levels are named after another John Land of the movie.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We got Duke Brothers level.

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[SPEAKER_10]: It's got Lucky.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Got a Billy Ray.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Billy Valentine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a Lewis Winthorpe.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_10]: And when you get to those Lewis Winthorpe and Duke Brothers levels, you know, we're going to be sending you some presents.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_10]: So we're going to come back with next week.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Next week, do we have the best songs of nineteen seventy five top five songs we do these over and over guys it's usually on an anniversary and so we're going back fifty years.

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[SPEAKER_10]: Okay top five songs of nineteen seventy five what's on your list come back and check out what's on my list what's on Jason's list and the awesome trivia way that we that we launch these things up that we team up it's really fun.

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[SPEAKER_10]: We'll see you next week I guess

