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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine notice that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course you're sweaty.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, these week palms are sweaty.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's vomit on my t-shirt already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great other shows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Espoquettes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Already a great episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Tipped and joins us later in the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to talk a little to you, because it's trying to run the corner Jacob.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're coming up on a man.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's becoming a summer tradition.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's becoming a staple for us here and a minor in Lane Households.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, you've always got a squad that shouldn't you have that listen to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Ville.
[SPEAKER_01]: That squad this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we want to talk a little bit about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me that roster run down one more time.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just said it right before we came on.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give it to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ross here's what the washer looks like as of eight twenty seven p.m.
[SPEAKER_01]: on July second to twenty five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for the time stamp because you never know things change very quickly, but as my calculations have it, level is looking at a nine man roster at this point that includes potential starting five of David Johnson, Jace Grub, Russ Smith, Earl Clark,
[SPEAKER_02]: You're talking about their five former NBA players and that's starting five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are five guys that have been drafted into the NBA playing in your starting line up the edition of J scrub.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get into this in a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then off the bench, it's a little bit of a different approach this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a mix of Louisville guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: But some new names as well, David Sloan, who is a Taylor County native.
[SPEAKER_02]: He played with Quentin Gooden down at Taylor County High School.
[SPEAKER_02]: Went on, played at Kansas State, played at East Tennessee State.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was another school in there as well in the mix.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember exactly where, but was a very productive college player.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then on the bench, you also have three formal cards who work
[SPEAKER_02]: Crucial pieces last year in Peyton, Siva, who will be kind of that player coach and then Shane Beahan and who is back for his third season as well as Chris Jones back for his second after a nice run off the bench.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm, I'm, I don't think they're done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're going to probably add another body or two.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've played with nine or they play with ten or eleven guys the last two years.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're likely going to see another big thrown in the mix there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look out for a guy like Sinana want to walk you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, potentially, you know, uh, you know, I don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, I'm just, I'm just knowing names out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's former cards like Steven Enoch, and I was my mood.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what those guys are up to, but, you know, Louisville needs another big man in the fold.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they go outside of the family for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But overall press, I think this lineup is pretty damn good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Five former NBA players in your starting five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Six overall if you include Peyton, Steve off the bench.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a pretty big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, last year you get knocked out by La Familia and
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have that happen again.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no more spiky spiky.
[SPEAKER_01]: You two point out can't happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they loaded up this year and I if there's one addition that I think that people are sleeping on right now, it's the addition of David's loan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people don't know about this guy just because he didn't play really in the state, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So he
[SPEAKER_01]: He played, I mean, he played a decent amount of Kansas State, but in their own, but then transferred to smaller school, played quite a bit for his last two seasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I got a chance to see David Sloan at train Moses's celebrity basketball game and look, I get it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: There were guys that have never played competitive basketball.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a whole slew of things, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my man, I think he scored like thirty five points in the second half when when he wants to turn when he was to turn it on he was he was making shots from all over the court getting to the basket of will.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's a really impressive piece.
[SPEAKER_01]: A guy that I think that fans are he's he's going to be taken in is one of our own this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Taylor County player shout out Richard Gaitwood.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a cut right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: You said that I was just looking at his profile.
[SPEAKER_02]: I played at twenty two foot academy where Richard was a coach.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe this final year after they had been at Taylor County.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, a lot of ties to Louisville, but I think it's just really interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Louisville going outside of the family a little bit with David Sloan and then obviously with with Jay Scrab.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think
[SPEAKER_02]: Montrose Harrel, unlike last year, the difference this year with this team is Montrose Harrel is playing basketball professionally.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's played with the New Zealand breakers, I believe, as the team that maybe was at the age of thirty-six, I believe, played forward over in Australia, played extremely well, just resigned to contract there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's playing in the big three this summer.
[SPEAKER_02]: was the player of the week this past week in the big three montress hero is built for that league but montress hero isn't shape montress hero is motivated and last year I think those were two big things for montress hero that we didn't see I mean no don't get me wrong montress hero always plays with a ship on a shoulder press but how many times did we say you got to get montress out of the game last year when we were sitting next to each other because of rebounding and just you know the the being out of shape and and lack of I don't want to say effort but just lack of being in shape
[SPEAKER_02]: This year you don't have that and you add in guys that are playing professionally that not only that, but fighting to get back in the NBA.
[SPEAKER_02]: David Johnson signed with the, uh, man, you're going to really test my Australian basketball here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it is the Tasmania and Jack Rabbits is the team that David Johnson signed for.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hold on, let me let me do my research here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just pulled Tasmania Jack Rabbits out of your ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that is some kind of award.
[SPEAKER_02]: that has many a jack jumpers i'm sorry i was slightly off but that's who doesn't that's me as many a jack jumpers is who david johnson is going to be playing for this uh... twenty twenty twenty six basketball season over your absolute sicko that the abiel for the man that's becoming one of the top leagues in the world now and david johnson's going to go back to australia to try to make it into the mba
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, Jay Scrub was a late second round pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been on two-way contracts as dealt with a lot of injuries during his short career, but Jay Scrub is a guy press that I think is a dark horse MVP in this league.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is going to thrive in a game and setting like this to up and down.
[SPEAKER_02]: The ability to go get a bucket.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the move in my opinion that no one is talking about and you know what we just I just realized we missed a player on this team Ray Spalding we missed Ray Spalding the seventh NBA player on this roster Yeah, so you're talking about seven NBA players this team Presley should be one of the favorites to win the entire tournament obviously they've got to get past some some of the the The devil's on their shoulder the the law familiars of the world obviously the year before they lost
[SPEAKER_02]: and devastating fashion as well, and they kind of overcame that last year, but there is a lot of work to do, and I think with Montrose, Harold, a healthy David Johnson, and then at Jay Scrub, that's the best big three in this tournament, in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I mean, no doubt, no doubt about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I would be lying if I said I'm super familiar with even like law of amelias roster, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's I know there's been some shuffling some players controversially when against.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got we got youtubers, but they they also have NBA players.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, really call me Stein, the Harrison Twins, Archie Goodwin, Jester, not so much NBA player as he is a YouTuber.
[SPEAKER_02]: Three point one million subs on YouTube is pretty damn impressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say this, press.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is a tangent, but what they just did was so incredibly smart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Laugh familiar, adding a YouTuber regardless of whether he can play ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to bring eyeballs from that fan base, and that's a big deal for TBT.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this is me saying hey, Luke Hancock, if you need a twelfth man in twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get in the gym, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get in the gym.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll still work on my jumper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get back to being able to touch net.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't touch the rim.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't touch the back poor bracket.
[SPEAKER_02]: Touch the net.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll get out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we got fifteen thousand Twitter followers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's, you know, it's not a million, but it's something Luke.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: Put me in coach.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will hold a clipboard and happily not run past half court one time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be my contribution.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they get mad at everybody else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Jones, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why did you shoot that shot?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you did that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So my one concern, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we don't want to just blow smoke up everybody's nasty entire time, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Louisville is not never been to a Final Four.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they win this year, they have first rights of refusal to play a Final Four in a championship game in the city of Louisville.
[SPEAKER_01]: Slight twist this year, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have you heard about the shaking?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I did not know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the home court
[SPEAKER_01]: They have an important advantage through the entire thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They will play in the city of Louisville, not necessarily free in the hall, though, for the entire time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are we putting the championship at Valley High School?
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is your high school?
[SPEAKER_01]: It will be at Bellerman if it is, if it is played.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the city of all about that because there's there's some kind of tracker pool or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stay for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a stay fair for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be a stay fair.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but I don't like that night's all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so I think no forget night's all spouting university.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to sit at that level upstairs where no one can see anything like yes Why don't we play it at the dirt bowl?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean come on now Let's I'd rather play it there than it freaking spawning or it just keep it going Open hoops back up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get hoops back play in this thing in hoops.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys see
[SPEAKER_01]: You have been watching from the track itself.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's Christian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but this team though, we didn't even talk about race balding.
[SPEAKER_02]: You saw Ray this past week in wearing sweatpants playing in the twenty four reasons game.
[SPEAKER_02]: But look, the thing I'll say about race balding is Ray was in the NBA at the highest level playing of his career when he ruptured his Achilles three years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a guy who is battle back from injury.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be willing to bet he's not the race balding that we are used to seeing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be much more on the floor.
[SPEAKER_02]: much more probably you know kind of a more face face up jumper and running you know rim running a little bit but you know he's going to be a different player but even him
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, at twenty eight twenty nine years old, you know, is somebody trying to get back into the world of professional basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be hungry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not even mentioning a guy who has supposed to have played for this TV team for five years now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's Earl Clark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been on every iteration of this team in every year.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has something come up and can't play with this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Earl will return.
[SPEAKER_02]: How old do you think Earl Clark is, personally?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's thirty seven years old.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, those metal car compression.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've appreciated that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot believe that we are going to see thirty seven year old girl Clark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it doesn't feel real.
[SPEAKER_02]: This will be kind of like his sinned off in the retirement with Louisville fans, like I'm excited for the moment to see our all back out there and look, he's still playing at a very high level.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Puerto Rico.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's played in the Philippines.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's playing in big three right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Earl Clark is still a damn good basketball player.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is a guy who can guard, who can put the ball on the floor.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the perfect kind of quintessential seventh eighth man in this tournament.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's obviously got a lot of experience and IQ being older and his days is an NBA champion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Two NBA champions on this roster.
[SPEAKER_02]: I must say.
[SPEAKER_02]: So overall like if you if you put a gun to my head right now and you said where will will will be eliminated.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the level makes the final four.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do it unless there's a game where Russ Smith
[SPEAKER_02]: tries to take over late and is just ice cold like he was against uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[SPEAKER_02]: Jay Scrab, mind-trust, Harold, Russ Smith, David Johnson, who played arguably his little best player last year press.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't see how this team falls without having just a really, really bad showing early on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I was going to get to, you know, about the knots, blowing of smoke up asses.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that the obvious flaw on this team is the lack of shooting.
[SPEAKER_01]: And especially, as somebody who is after one season has become accustomed to shooting a lot of three point shots, that's what you see a lot early on in this tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw last year, you know, Jacob, you and I were sitting there watching Bellarmine up by like what's sixteen or something in the first half.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just fucking running offense like not just playing there.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are running plays run in this Yeah, I'm running that trip for dresses out there looking like James Harden looking for a trade and Yeah, my friends is an hell get lost in here throw and shit up like we're called we've used every time out in the first quarter like
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't figure out the government against nine plumbers in firemen like nine guys that have full-time day jobs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean my man what is his name that this is gonna sound super stupid even the same the total white kid that was at the bresher
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's all of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember any of their names, but it was my guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was literally like running pivot tables on a Friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was out there ripping a sweatpants off and just dominating on a Saturday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Friday screens and throwing, you know, backdoor cut passes like it was nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's what makes this tournament so much fun though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's nine of us out there against Louisville.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're running south of the grocery area.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say we're exaggerating just a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I suck.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it would be joke is they look like us.
[SPEAKER_02]: The bell and team last year looked like us.
[SPEAKER_02]: The team that level opens against, I believe in round one, is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be much better than what nine of me impresses would, but they're a drool league team out in California if I'm not mistaken.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're talking about guys that are going to be semi-professional basketball players that show up to play in this game against seven former NBA players.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what makes this tournament fun though, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be in front of six thousand people.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what I think what excites me the most going into this tournament is that
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that this the vill team just because of the way that these things go.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is your three of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like your six of Louisville trying to get a team in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're three of us taking this seriously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Each year you've seen improvements in certain areas.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think where what you're going to see is a lot of just kind of casual feeling out of each other as you normally do in the first halves of these games.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you'll see, you know, the competitive instinct kind of take over.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the second half, but I'm looking forward to a lot of set plays, set pieces in the element.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing that will act.
[SPEAKER_01]: is like year one it was like all right rest of it just don't shoot it from half-port let's go then last year was like okay there's a little bit of like christian's taking off the dribble yeah mantras here up post and up we're taking defense very seriously all of a sudden
[SPEAKER_01]: This year is the iteration of, okay, you have Luke Hancock, like seriously in the fold, shout out, Chrissy Banta, like, you have legitimate staffers on this game.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's becoming a full organization.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no longer just, we want a team.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is now just short of full-time employees.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chrissy is local media personality.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hear running the operations of this team day to day like it's a full-time job.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a serious ordeal.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other big thing on this team this year, and the reason why I love Luke being the head coach is the melding of personalities.
[SPEAKER_02]: You talked about it last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have seven former NBA players on this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's seven guys who want to ball in their hands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seven guys that have an ego, not in a bad way, but believe that they are
[SPEAKER_02]: the, you know, creamedella creme of basketball and that they are just their opportunity away from going back to the league.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's true for Jay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true for Montres.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true for David Johnson.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think Russ and Peyton that ship is sales, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but I do think for this team and same with Earl, being thirty seven years old.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is purely for Earl Clark coming back to be celebrated by Louis fans.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just gonna I mean he's in jail, but man can we get Terrence Williams back for just why I don't I don't know how that invasion would go to be honest but like for me dude like that would be insane to have Terrence Williams back with the real clock, but anyways yeah, I mean one thing one thing I mean I'm always gonna say I like to think about I like if this thing if we just keep building up on this thing especially if Louis will finally breaks through they get to the final four they win a championship game
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm already interested in, like, what, um, what trade Lewis and Damien Lee are going to look like on this team?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm interested.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tray Lewis is a rapper now or a gospel singer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, man isn't playing in TBT anymore, but Damien Lee hit Damien Lee's on the other side of retirement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's probably one more year away from being done in the league.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is it's part of the next year bringing them back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see the three inch vertical on his jump shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get Carly Jones.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, looked up in all honesty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lova has three big players that they have not tapped into this year who would make little instant favorites to win this thing by a mile.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's Malek Williams, Carly Jones and Jordan Warah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan Warra was back in town this week and I'm just like man I know you play for the top team in Turkey and you're trying to get back in the NBA but dude you could average fifty in this tournament if you play like Jordan Warra in this team and Malik Williams is the one of if not the top big man in the glee right now has been dominating has gone up and down between the raptors the Miami heat the last couple of years
[SPEAKER_02]: He's another guy and then not to mention you know you have Steven Enoch out there who I mentioned earlier There's a lot of guys that you could call on this continue to grow But what I the last thing that I'll say on this is I think if Louisville can keep egos in check particularly with with Jane Montres those are the two guys who are like most likely to be like back in the NBA I think that if they can corral that and they can keep Peyton healthy off the bench and
[SPEAKER_02]: Ray plays up to what he's capable of.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think press this team is a final fourteen and that's not being exaggeratory or hyperbolic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think purely based off of what an Andrew's old until this two or three years ago, it takes a few years of trial and error to get it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Year three, I think this is by far going to be the furthest that Louisville goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: They may not win at all, but I think this is a final fourteen for Louisville.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you just kind of a final word here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see
[SPEAKER_01]: that you have to consider that this is it's a lot of build up with no actual games being played and then all of a sudden the ball is tipped and it's like
[SPEAKER_01]: You lose your gun.
[SPEAKER_01]: You lose and all this build up has been for nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And these guys the thing that I think most people don't realize or don't think about is these guys don't get paid unless they win.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's no money being shout out under the table.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're doing their own award.
[SPEAKER_01]: They make a little sum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luke confirmed that on the radio like last week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they may be sponsor payouts of whatever left they got to pay for their flights their hotels like they have a budget that they have to pay for all this and that million dollars is the prize that's what these players come here for okay, maybe they make a little bit of money and for most of these guys, they don't need it right like my treasures made fifty million dollars in his MBA career some shit like that, you know, and
[SPEAKER_02]: or a Clark played in the NBA for ten years and David Johnson, you know, he certainly not, you know, NBA rich, but played in the NBA for a few years.
[SPEAKER_02]: So these guy in J scrub, these guys have made money.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not about the money, but that's still an important factor.
[SPEAKER_02]: These guys are doing it because not only do they want to win, but they want to represent for Louisville and do that as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: The last thing I'll say I was going to make this point is I think that you talked about like what this can continue to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: TVT can be a way to bridge the gap, unofficially between the university and a fan base.
[SPEAKER_02]: This could be the outlet where we eventually get Rick Patino back and freedom home.
[SPEAKER_02]: If one of his former players like a Earl Clark or like a, you know, X, Y and Z, Preston Knowles comes back to play and levels in a high level.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's in New York or whatever, you would see Bettina there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that this has a means to bridge gaps with university with the fan base.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's what's so important kind of in between the games is just the reconnection with the fans.
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it last year in the media room.
[SPEAKER_02]: very intimate setting getting to ask mantras hero what's it like having not been in level for so long being back here david johnson what's it like having been a star and making a decision to go pro early and maybe that's the wrong to sit you know there's been a lot of really good questions i can't wait to be in the media room of jay scrub i have a ton of questions but it's going to just be such a great experience i can't freaking wait we're just three weeks out
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe the first game is July, nineteenth on a Saturday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our man Alan Thomas, the newest co-host of Starting Fibletoo will be out there as our kind of TBT ZAR.
[SPEAKER_02]: My wife Taylor did all of our content last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be out there personally and I will be out there at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, you know, the folks from Mr. and Mrs. Burbin are primary sponsors.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get to get out there and see Russ and CZ and Sean and our team over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of my favorite times in theville.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though this, the fact that Freedom Hall is a dump.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'm upsetting anybody with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Freedom Hall is a dump, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get out of here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got the grand doesn't work there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have done spoiled.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've gotten insanely spoiled.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've been.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to take you to a game.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is perfect year.
[SPEAKER_01]: They play in the fifth or third arena this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they did we could well, I think their game is neutral court.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it not I thought it was I don't think it's yes, but it's in fifth third.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they have Cincinnati is two arenas.
[SPEAKER_01]: They play and it's unfortunate.
[SPEAKER_01]: But either way, both of them, not the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not ideal scenarios.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm saying is you could go almost anywhere in the country.
[SPEAKER_01]: And because of what Louisville has, you're going to be like, that's a dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't really wish.
[SPEAKER_01]: Boyle.
[SPEAKER_02]: The KFCM Center and the other venues that we get together with Boyle.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but you know what else?
[SPEAKER_02]: Boyle's us press.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe Tipton and Joe Tipton's news.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does a great job of reporting the game of college basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say he's probably the most important figure in recruiting, at least in, you know, he's the wage, or the Sean Sorania of college basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: As I mentioned in the interview, we're getting ready to get into.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't tweet notifications is a special place for me, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's reserved for the Shoms, for the Brady Brahms, for the major players, the Pressling Mires, the State of Louisville's, from the Pink Seats podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Joe Tipton is a man that if he's tweeting something, I want to know about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we've been fortunate over the last year, so to build up a relationship online with him through State of Louisville and being able to, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: see news as it breaks in real time and you know interact with him and I'm stoked to have him on the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Tipton, Joe Tipton, how are we doing sir?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very kind of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Appreciate you all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for, thanks for jumping on man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to say, you know, there's not very many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: that I have tweet notifications turned on for so I want you to know Joe that I've gotten one of our notifications turned on man I'm up to date whether it's twenty six twenty seven the portal you've been keeping the show locked in all summer so thank you for doing that man it is a great honor to be able to to have you on the show how are you like house house life I mean you're one of the busiest people out there house everything going
[SPEAKER_00]: When the portal was running, I was struggling.
[SPEAKER_00]: To get sleep.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the most hectic offseason I'd ever experienced.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was, it was mainly because that portal opened and all these players, these coaches, these agents all thought they had to get their NIL, the old signed their contracts before April seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously that came and went.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the portal opened like what March, twenty four.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's something like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you know, April seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was just like absolute insanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: for those days and, you know, some of the money being tossed around for these players is just absolutely absurd.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, even though I had to like, project on the conservative side, probably Louis will starting to line up.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably all millionaires.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey man, that's a nice life to live right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my early thirties, and I was just talking about this this week, like these athletes are making significantly more money than I've ever made my entire life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the prime age of college sports man.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're definitely keep this up today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Real quick, before we jump into Louisville, was there anything this offseason that like any, you know, stories or anything that stuck out to you where you're just like holy shit?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's the one thing that I'm going to remember about this offseason.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really good question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, whether you know, because I can imagine you saw a dollar amount, let's just, you know, throw a name out, whatever, Denzel Aberdeen, you're like, holy crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's a lot of my, like, is there anybody that you don't have to name names, but when you are just getting reporting and stuff coming in that just stood out to you is like, holy crap weren't a different age of college basketball.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it just all boils down to NAL.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you saw guys, like I would say the second part of that would be you saw guys leave and transfer that you normally wouldn't see into the portal, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's like, oh, yeah, like a little surprising.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot of the time it makes sense, like, okay, you're not playing or you're at a mid major in your average in twenty a game, like, yeah, you're going to go in the portal and get paid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's some guys were leaving.
[SPEAKER_00]: purely for financial reasons, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: If that's what you're after, then more power to you, you know, I'd have a hard time turning down some of the level of money.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think just how high the numbers got, you know, for players like a two million dollar offer is like, if you're like a really good player, it's like, it's common in the portal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I remember like when Nigel Pack
[SPEAKER_00]: committed to Miami, he had a very public and I yelled ill and I think it was two year, eight hundred thousand and everybody was shocked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two years, eight hundred thousand dollars, and now it's like
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like you're like, tenth land.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, uh, low end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,
[SPEAKER_01]: all of a sudden now we're like driving mozzarella.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a, it is a weird world that we live in Joe Tipton.
[SPEAKER_01]: But tonight we want to dive a little bit into college basketball and specifically, Louisville basketball.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think obviously the major story for Louisville basketball nationally.
[SPEAKER_01]: is simply, it's backelsy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's his energy, his rebuild of the program last year, but nationally, what was the cultural shift, the perception nationally on Pat Kelsey, and really kind of leading into this offseason, what was the momentum like for this program, especially on the recruiting trail?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think like before the season started like me being an outsider, like obviously follow the oval, but not like a a die hard fan, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not like tracking every move and I'm you know observing it more nationally.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, okay, yeah, like he's a good coach.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like he even said in his press or like he wasn't there.
[SPEAKER_00]: their first option.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody kind of knew that, but you saw the team that he put together and they're like, okay, they might be pretty good, but at least for my perspective, I didn't think they were going to be that good, like top of the league, like Pat Kelsey wins ACC coach of the year, like
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, for them to turn it around that quickly, you know, I know it was like, you know, like, based on what they had been with with KP, you know, it was just a train wreck to be quite frank.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think anything was better than that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for it to be just now the public perception of Louis, they're like, I mean, it's kind of like, if I'm a little fan, I was like, we're on top of the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're like, let's make a tournament run.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's have success there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, just overall just like the regular season, the conference, like,
[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like you see who they bring in this year and you're like, oh my gosh, we might be even better than you seem to kill Brown at USA basketball, you know, I've changed your like holy shit, like we might be a top five team.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we might talk about a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the recruits that they're on in the next class.
[SPEAKER_02]: right you're like the momentum is it's turning for Louis for sure yeah and you know we'll get into this in a little bit but I mean the momentum is especially helped when you have a kid in the class of twenty twenty six is number one country that's from Louisville and you have a kid in the class of twenty twenty seven who's at the top five top ten who also is from Louisville so you see Louisville really not only as a program but kids from the city
[SPEAKER_02]: As well, Joe, what did you think about Louisville in the portal this off season?
[SPEAKER_02]: You were, you know, reporting every single move.
[SPEAKER_02]: So as, you know, the Brian Conwell and the Adrian Woolies and the Ryan McNeillies of the world commits a Louisville.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are your thoughts on just how Pat Kelsey and staff managed that that payroll and how they went out and got big name players from the portal to become somewhat of a maybe national championship contender in twenty twenty five twenty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like, and I've said this to like other coaches that like have went up against the little ones, some of these recruiting battles.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have like an embarrassment of riches.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, especially like the guard spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can't remember who was first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it Woolly?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Adrian Woolly was one of the first big ones, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you like get Conwell, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, okay, there's still an eyes it be nearly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were like going to have to be out because like you got my kill brown on top of him and you know, you know, the others returning.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like the one that shocked me was like, me nearly still decided to go to Louisville.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought he would like, Tennessee didn't even have a back court.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was the other choice considered like they had no one.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, okay, he wants like a big role like Tennessee like good team, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know how Pat Kelsey convinced him and like the other guys to like buy into the bigger picture because that's like some of the, that's like one of the hardest parts, especially a lot of those guys are older, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Conwhelming me they probably, I think during their last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like to get them on board.
[SPEAKER_00]: and like see that vision is so major so I mean I'm very impressed with what they've been able to do obviously I know they wish they would have held on to James Scott you know and they went international and Tina to you know bolster their front court there but I mean very very impressive you can tell that they knew exactly what they wanted to do they got it done efficiently quickly and obviously very well funded as well
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you mentioned Adrian Woolly and that's a name that I'm super interested in just because I think for Louisville fans with Xavier just being just up the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: People were at least familiar with Brian Conwell and then playing against him in the ACC obviously Isaac McNeely was a target for Louisville from day one as soon as the portal opened.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Adrian Woolly was that first commitment and now you're seeing that he's popping all of a sudden as
[SPEAKER_01]: projections and a first round for a little fans I think if you asked the average level fan that follows recruiting they would say that there's no chance that Adrian will even a starter that he's projected potentially is a first round pick what are your thoughts on this guy yeah I mean he is a he is a very real talent and
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to get off on a tangent here, but like a kid like I'm an Alabama guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not like an Alabama fan, but I'm from Alabama.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like to see a dude from Tuscaloosa.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Alabama and Auburn were like on this dude, like they were on him and from like take a visit to Louisville.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think by the time he left campus he had already committed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I already told him that he was coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you pull a kid from the state, obviously, I know we're going to kind of saw a state in Georgia, his freshman year.
[SPEAKER_00]: But obviously, a big time score, you know, like these other guys, like Conwell, meet Neely, he's a shooter as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you've got some elite three point shooters on this roster.
[SPEAKER_00]: That might be most impressive part of this to McKell's great shooters as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, they're going to put up a ton of points.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be really fun to watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you hit on McKell Brown Junior or McKell Brown.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the topic of conversation right now is we're all desperate for basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have foreign trips happening yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're watching, you know, early in the morning, these international games with Team USA and their younger squad going up against the squad's across the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: And very early on, McKell Brown Junior has been the talk of college basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all eyes are on this from
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, from on three to, you know, some of the bigger publications and publishers across college basketball, are you surprised that Macill Brown Junior has been this good and in your estimation?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's been talk of him coming in and being potentially a top five player in college basketball next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you see that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you buying the hype?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is Joe Tipton think of what Macill Brown Junior is doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I really like the kill coming out of high school to see and be this good, this quickly is not super surprising, but it's definitely eye catching right to see what he's been able to do against, you know, some of these players from around the country like and for him to be one of the best players on a team with
[SPEAKER_00]: AJ DeBonza and Tyron Stokes and all of these other studs, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what a top five, top ten recruiting the class.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm one right point guard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Top five playing college basketball next year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of like the main thing for him is it's going to be just a strength.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's again at like
[SPEAKER_00]: he's going to have to get stronger like we all know that he knows that like all those folks know that right but like if he can like obviously we'll have a little bit time before the season starts if he can get stronger and you know kind of battle against the rest of the ACC that he's going to be really free because he's the total package he's got everything else
[SPEAKER_02]: He is, and it's incredible to watch because he looks like he's twelve years old, like no offense to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a baby face, but he will kill you on the court and absolute assassin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Were you surprised at all, Joe, that he went to Louisville and chose Louisville?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously, when you look at the national powerhouse right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, and recruiting in I.L.
[SPEAKER_02]: is kind of change things, but it's been due.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been Kentucky.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been wherever, you know, John Calperi is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been Arizona.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been, you know, the national players, but are you surprised that so quickly Pat Kelsey was able to get into the mix with the top five player and get a freshman that, you know, Louisville's had some Art Osam, Louisville's had Shakwan Aaron, Louisville's had five stars.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not a, that's not new.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the fact that the freshman at five star might come in and be an impact player right away that's new.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're you surprised at all by that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little bit initially I honestly thought like more schools like big time programs can like you mentioned would have pursued him like I think you know Kentucky offered him they had him on a visit right I think they like you know You know based on like who else they brought in the kind of the timing of those visits I think that he wasn't like their number one kind of like guard option Which is a little surprising because of how good we're seeing him be now
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of their top guards ended up at Villanova late in the class, too, that they had committed for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, that's a really interesting decision by Mark Pope.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think overall I shouldn't be surprised because I think like the one thing that like players say,
[SPEAKER_00]: when they like talk about Pat Kelsey is, well, they always bring up his energy.
[SPEAKER_00]: But just like how down to earth he is, I think he does a good job in a similar resistance, do a really good job of establishing those relationships.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even when we look ahead in the twenty twenty six class, like they're only these guys early.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of guys, a lot of teams wait until after their transfer portal, rosters built and then they start picking up things in May and, you know, June, July.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're behind the eight ball.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for a lot of these guys, Louisville has kind of gotten there early.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let it be known that they're a top priority.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he that PK made it from the jump.
[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as you see got the job, he was like, I want, I want McHill Brown.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he went and did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's obviously had some deities ties, definitely help with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, definitely encouraging to see that as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: But overall,
[SPEAKER_00]: I shouldn't be as shocked as I am, but obviously coming off, you know, the lack of success that they've had and just Pat Kelsey wasn't at the time proven to be this high major head coach, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But obviously it paid off in a big way and I'm sure my Kelsey is probably glad that he he chose Louisville.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say so Pat Kelsey says that the most important thing in program history is the next thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so obviously
[SPEAKER_01]: The next class is the most important class in program history.
[SPEAKER_01]: Could it be led by Tyron Stokes?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what a lot of people are asking here in Louisville.
[SPEAKER_01]: Local products.
[SPEAKER_01]: Clearly you're seeing at the USA, you're nineteen.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a year behind most of these other guys and he's standing out as triple players out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Had a triple double today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Almost a quadruple double.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So tell us a little bit about the recruitment of Tyron Stokes and then maybe just the two thousand twenty six classes a whole are there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Other guys, the little thing should be watching out for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tyron is obviously a guy that Louis was been on from the job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Got him on the official visit as a I guess it was last fall when he was still a junior.
[SPEAKER_00]: So another way of them showing hey, you're a priority here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're bringing you in as a junior.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not waiting to hear senior year like Kentucky and Kansas did no knock to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just how a lot of programs do it now is they're going to be waiting until a little bit closer to decision time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But with Tyron obviously a little native no one ranked player in the class.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the couple of the schools that he's considering.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also looking at Arkansas.
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of think there are dark horses.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he seems like a guy that that cow would really love to have.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of hard to get like a good read on Tyron.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he declines interviews.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't like to talk about his recruitment.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know it's so it's hard to like forecast like where he ends up right obviously I know um Louisville would love to have and I but I think it's difficult to kind of like pinpoint a leader but I definitely know that Louisville isn't a good spot with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and as I mentioned I mean you have the
[SPEAKER_02]: connection to Tyron being from Louisville obviously is not played in Louisville for a while playing some of one of the best high schools in the country but that's a recruitment that you feel like you should be able to with a little bit of momentum and that cool factor as well and I guess that kind of sets up my next question for recruiting in twenty six and seven and eight this Louisville you know obviously you know this better than any there's this cool factor that comes with programs in this wave of you know a program is hot one year and they're able to capitalize on that
[SPEAKER_02]: How, how was the national perception went to recruits with Louisville right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, as Louisville kind of back in good graces after, you know, I'm sure some of these guys were in eighth grade, ninth grade when, you know, the kidney pain, stuff was happening, but what's the national perception recruiting wise for Pat Kelsey and Louisville?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think Louisville is relevant now again.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think these these top players are truly considering Louisville, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's partly because of the success that they had in year one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then also like there's they're getting good traction with a lot of these these top players like take in these and other Kentucky kiddies from Newport like, you know, I think that Louisville's probably the front runner for him if I had to guess right now like
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and even some of these recruiting battles are kind of fun, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like, I mean, Tyrant Stokes, it's like Kentucky, Louisville, Kansas, Taitling, Kenny, Kentucky, Louisville, and a few others as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the
[SPEAKER_00]: But these top players, they are like strongly strongly considering Louisville once again, which is obviously, you know, very important for card fans and exciting because in the past or at least in the past few years prior to VK, they were calling.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to Louisville.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to all those situations, you know, who does it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I mentioned this before, but you have tyrants, soaks in the class of twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we just found this out this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is one of those things that with Louisville basketball culture is so rich here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, Obina, a kezi from the class of twenty twenty seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe also, uh, been in Louisville.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, we haven't quite figured out if he's from Louisville if he lived in Louisville.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's another guy with Louisville ties.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're talking about the momentum being perfectly timed for Pat Kelsey a couple of guys that are familiar with the city.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: switching it up real quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to talk international there's been some tweets that have come out today and I haven't seen anything official from you know from folks like yourself or any of the major reporters in college basketball but there's been an international ruling that has been kind of considered and you might be able to kind of frame this a little bit better but my understanding is that the international players that are coming into the class of twenty twenty five
[SPEAKER_02]: that are going to enroll in college campuses this fall, like a sunny through at Louisville, are going to have some draft implications and potentially not being eligible after year one for the NFL at the NBA draft.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you heard anything about this coming down?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there going to be any impact, maybe with a guy like Sunny through or you know, another international player in the ACC?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of them this year that have committed that maybe walk away from commitments because of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you hearing in terms of the international impact right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know there had been been some concerns with with different maybe not little specifically but some teams like heard about a few international players like they're silently committed to this school and then for whatever reason they're weren't able to achieve their eligibility but another school was able to get in their eligibility.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's there's this gray area right like some you know like North Carolina is getting international player coming in.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's still a waiting eligibility but I'm told their optimistic they're going to be able to
[SPEAKER_00]: get him eligible.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's situational.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of it is based on their transcripts and there's a lot of massaging of the transcripts for a lot of these players.
[SPEAKER_00]: to make them not look like they have been pointed.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know how we got to this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we are, it's cool, I guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I haven't heard any, like any final decisions coming down the pipe of, you know, are these international guys going to be, you know, ineligible or, you know, fruit specifically, like there hasn't been any decisions made, but it's definitely something to monitor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's a big deal for the ACC across the board.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'd say what half the teams have an international commitment, maybe more than that, a couple of teams like Louisville really dependent on those international teams.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, press, start it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to catch off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say it's a it's a copycat world and in college sports and pro sports Florida just want a national championship with a lot of foreign guys, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And people are going to take a page out of out of successful play votes, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So Joe Titton will we'll finish off on this level top five team heading into the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get the Joe Titton stamp sample approval?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with the man top five.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what do you think, you know, this might be a bit of an open into question.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the ceiling for Louisville?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a lot of fans are saying sweet sixteen.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's really early to tell college basketball is weird game, but I mean, do you see this being a final four type of team or what's the ceiling you think for for Louisville?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, obviously very early.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you have to make the second weekend.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to make this week with this roster.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like obviously I know you get into the tournament like you run into, you know, a team that's hot or whatever, like really good teams get knocked out early.
[SPEAKER_00]: It happens all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think expectations should be
[SPEAKER_00]: head again to this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mind you, of course, it's we're in July.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, yes, second weekend, so it's extreme, you know, potentially higher.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I could see this team making me a lead A. I really could, but obviously only, you know, time will tell.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's Joe Tipton on three sports rivals, the new marriage.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's, they're just scooping up all the talent over it on three.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can fall him on the X platform at Tipton edits.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to fall him on Instagram, he's on there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe said to thank you so much for joining us.
[SPEAKER_01]: We greatly appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we we hope we can join we can join us once again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some tips and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.