[SPEAKER_09]: Michael Mera, Radio Entertainment.
[SPEAKER_09]: Friday flashback that one him involved in every single moment of the show because it doesn't happen very often that he comes by to welcome Tony Perkins and Fox five and the Tony Perkins show on the morning at work and starring Gary Stein
[SPEAKER_09]: He is here.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is the, I'm beginning to think you deserve the moniker of the hardest working man in show business because now you are, I've thought now when is the, the Donnie Simpson show is afternoon drive after my drive Monday through Friday three to seven PM on magic one o two point three and you still, uh, you're still on magic one.
[SPEAKER_08]: It was a call.
[SPEAKER_08]: It was the three that got me.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Do the only man I know you should cry.
[SPEAKER_09]: You should have laughed.
[SPEAKER_09]: You should cry.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know what we should be on the radio and Washington DC.
[SPEAKER_09]: Just like Tony is right.
[SPEAKER_08]: If I don't laugh, I do cry.
[SPEAKER_09]: Magic D. C. My magic D. C. Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's the time.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's magic one or two point three and ninety two point seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Two sticks.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's very, very stick one doesn't reach out as far as one would want it to.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the radio station is a problem too.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, and it gives me a chance to do my Donnie Simpson impression, which I never get a chance.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is for just DC people that listen to or people that watch BET in the nineteen five fifty's when Donnie was doing a regular show there.
[SPEAKER_09]: Um, the.
[SPEAKER_09]: I can do it.
[SPEAKER_09]: I get records.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was groundbreaking show.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, you know.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Donnie is, I've always said this, I think I introduced Donnie at a concave.
[SPEAKER_09]: You did.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Donnie is a story.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Donnie, yeah, Donnie is, well, I just, I've always been jealous of Donnie.
[SPEAKER_09]: And so it was easier.
[SPEAKER_09]: I took that jealousy and I channeled it into the man whose cool is the other side of the pillow.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Donnie is always like, Donnie, I can sum up Donnie's broadcast career this way.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is this is Donnie.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, man.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Man, good to see you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Donnie's the cool.
[SPEAKER_09]: Donnie is the, the, he's an American originally.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's been in the, the market.
[SPEAKER_09]: He got, he got screwed by CBS.
[SPEAKER_09]: Like we all did, but Donnie came back because Donnie was a legend.
[SPEAKER_09]: And Donnie was, I, I am just a huge fan.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've tried multiple times to get Donnie on the, the show, but Donnie's too smart for that.
[SPEAKER_09]: That he won't come up here.
[SPEAKER_09]: He's like, hey, another time.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I can try to deliver him for you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_09]: I would love to have the legendary.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'd like to get all the legendary broadcasters on this show at one time.
[SPEAKER_09]: The DC radio people.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'll show one time.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, Frank Hart.
[SPEAKER_08]: Jackson, we both.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, the late Jackson.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the amazing thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't Frank short to that one?
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_08]: I know that I know that Jackson died first.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: Have the amazing Frank dead, too.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, they're all dead.
[SPEAKER_10]: They're all dead.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, I can see those impressions, too.
[SPEAKER_10]: WNLM-Six-Thuddy, right?
[SPEAKER_09]: Alright.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then Jackson Weaver, body bowed on my John and didn't win.
[SPEAKER_09]: That was that.
[SPEAKER_09]: That was the way that worked.
[SPEAKER_09]: I did a little history lesson of football.
[SPEAKER_09]: I did number one for forty years.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_09]: You were going to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the amazing thing about and we can all relate to how amazing this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the crazy thing about Donnie's legendary radio career.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been doing it for fifty years now and has worked at one, two, three,
[SPEAKER_02]: for radio stations.
[SPEAKER_02]: His first station in Detroit, the right KYS WPGC magic one on two point three.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's why you remember Tony is an AU student like I do when WKYS was the coolest station with Donnie Simpson and Chuck Davis and Jeff Leonard and Jeff Leonard was one of my all-time faves because he did a talk up of Derek Commissar.
[SPEAKER_09]: He said a ninety three KYS, Derek Commissar.
[SPEAKER_09]: after the fire.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you're house, don't worry.
[SPEAKER_09]: They let the TV on the lawn though.
[SPEAKER_08]: Who is that?
[SPEAKER_08]: Is that an esoteric thing?
[SPEAKER_08]: It's so cool.
[SPEAKER_08]: And you know, you always quote it, but I've never understood it, but doesn't make me not love it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_09]: After the fire and he said, hey, the fire was in your house, but they let the TV on the lawn.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, because that's what you care about.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I'm already good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Accordingly, you want someone to save your TV.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then there was Chuck Dev.
[SPEAKER_09]: Ninety-three KYS Jeff Leonard.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's like, and then Danny going, man, it's alright.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was just the coolest.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a great station.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a powerhouse station.
[SPEAKER_02]: I loved Chuck Davis.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chuck came on in mid days after Donnie and Chuck would come in and set up his little trinkets and whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Chuck was one of those radio guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of those radio guys who would talk to every person who called in and often meet the female callers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who would call it?
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've checked might have been one of those many outreach programs.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was a little issue back in the eighties, probably, but you know, that happens.
[SPEAKER_09]: What are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of them had that.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, that's actually the reason a lot of them got into the business to start with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, my Husker Santa first.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm finding your sport.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is a suit coat.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a sports.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, it's a suit coat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to be correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's monogrammed with my last name inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So my mom got it from your Chris.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I won't steal it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first time I met Donnie Simpson was when I was an intern at WHFS and if you weren't in Atlanta, Maryland at that time, he was either driving his or sugar rate Leonard's Ferrari, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I remember on Pac-in.
[SPEAKER_09]: By the way, Donnie Simpson pals with sugar rate Leonard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: They just add that to the list of jellacies.
[SPEAKER_09]: And by the way, sugary would show up and he'd go, hey man.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I remember, wow, that guy, that guy's driving two different Ferrari's in one week.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then hearing on the morning show on WPG, you see that he had to drive sugary.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then his Ferrari, because if you don't drive the Ferrari, they break.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like in the sidefell, you have to exercise the gaskets.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_09]: I have always admired Donnie Simpson for my entire career.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've always wanted to get him on this show.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've always thought he was a good guy.
[SPEAKER_09]: And then we're both golf enthusiasts.
[SPEAKER_09]: We've I think we may have played once together.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think one only once.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think once or twice because you know what, why should you play with Michael Marra when you're playing with Michael Jordan?
[SPEAKER_09]: Another Josh.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: I am not exaggerating.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: Come to Michael Jordan comes to the club where members at the exclusive club that I was a member at thirty years ago and Donnie's been a member at the whole time because he can afford it.
[SPEAKER_09]: So the fact is Michael is here.
[SPEAKER_09]: Michael Jordan's here today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_09]: He's playing golf with Donnie Simpson and I said, of course he is.
[SPEAKER_07]: Who else would he play with?
[SPEAKER_07]: Michael Jordan is the president not available.
[SPEAKER_09]: Michael Jordan arrived at the golf course was on the first two.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know what, Donnie said, don't he?
[SPEAKER_09]: Man, how you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: So now let me just tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now what I'm with him this afternoon every time he says that I'm going to start laughing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So recently at the golf course, it's Donnie Michael Jordan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some football play.
[SPEAKER_09]: I can't remember who the thought Tony you're not a sports guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're playing and guess who walks up to them and starts talking to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Former president Obama.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh my god, so there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they have these great little conversation and great.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is, and it's the four of them with a couple of Donnie's grandkids.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a favorite picture ever.
[SPEAKER_08]: What's great is Obama came home and said, guess who I met today?
[SPEAKER_09]: The final Donnie Simpson story, uh, Donnie would be, by the way, Donnie has plenty of good old fashioned radio ego.
[SPEAKER_09]: He would be thrilled to know that we're, we're opening the show by talking.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: Story with Donnie Simpson.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was over at the CBS broadcast headquarters, not sure where it was probably Lannum.
[SPEAKER_09]: Probably probably in Lannum.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's where it was.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I was going over there either to be on the junkies show who did not get fired.
[SPEAKER_09]: more I was begging for my job.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm not sure, but whenever I went to land, I'm it was never good.
[SPEAKER_09]: It was always to guess on someone I just show or to beg Dan Mason for my job.
[SPEAKER_09]: So that's that's why I was and you know, I knew Donnie was in the building and I remember getting done with whatever work I had to do and say, Hey, it's Donnie here and said, Yeah, yeah, he's here.
[SPEAKER_09]: I said, Oh, I'd like to say hi.
[SPEAKER_09]: Tell Michael Maris here and somebody came out to say he'd love to.
[SPEAKER_09]: Man, but he's getting a haircut.
[SPEAKER_09]: He'd love to buy the studio unless it was a bit Donnie didn't have to do it as a bit No, I think it done for real where a barber comes to him and the barber walks in and goes Hey man, how you doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mike, this will bring you some sauce because I heard this on the Tony Perkins show featuring Gary Stein.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has been married to the same woman for over forty years.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_09]: And that's just one other little thing.
[SPEAKER_09]: The final little tip.
[SPEAKER_07]: And thank you for that because that means he's got every dime he ever made.
[SPEAKER_09]: T. M. O. S. Classic.
[SPEAKER_09]: Rob Spuac, the great communicator.
[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't know we were having stine on the show too today.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you requested it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, what?
[SPEAKER_08]: You requested the entire staff of the show.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: I knew Tony was coming into the studio.
[SPEAKER_09]: He didn't tell me I was going to have to call Gary.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you don't have to call Gary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't, I, I'd love to call.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: This has been my issue since the show started because when we started, it was a Tony Perkins show, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, oh, man, it's going to be awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've made the graphics.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got everything together.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got the app.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I hear, can we add Gary Stein to the graphic?
[SPEAKER_03]: And just like then today, we got to add Gary Stein to the show.
[SPEAKER_09]: We said we're going to have Tony.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I look, it doesn't matter when you can bring up
[SPEAKER_09]: crap that I did in nineteen eighty nine and and tell me just like you sent toe when did you send Tony's bio information not because I need a bio for Tony because I've known him a hundred years right but but his current relevant information when did you send that to me I said it to you this morning and I said it to me at eight o'clock for an eight thirty start okay like when I was in here everything was printed everything is done that's right that's when I I didn't know what was going on and I did not know until uh... let me see let me read the text
[SPEAKER_09]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let me see.
[SPEAKER_09]: Eight twenty eight twenty a.m.
[SPEAKER_09]: We tape a day thirty ladies and gentlemen prices for junior brothers.
[SPEAKER_09]: I emailed you Tony's plugs.
[SPEAKER_09]: At eight twenty we're going on this we're going on the air.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well you got to buy the we sent it to you at eight oh five just wanted to make sure you knew they were there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got Gary's bio.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_09]: No I got one minute ago.
[SPEAKER_09]: I pulled up a phone like this.
[SPEAKER_09]: and says Gary Stein is standing by just cue Oscar to dial him up.
[SPEAKER_09]: So let's let's dial him.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm just it's just communication is gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: They want to tell me.
[SPEAKER_09]: I work with these two of these guys in this studio.
[SPEAKER_09]: Tony, I swear to God, to the do not communicate with me anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: You highlight them, please.
[SPEAKER_09]: It is Rob and Pony hate to tell me anything.
[SPEAKER_09]: They barely like to say hello to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that often the case in this business of communication that people don't communicate with each other?
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's difficult to communicate.
[SPEAKER_09]: Now what we do communicate, we communicate for two things.
[SPEAKER_09]: When there's a show change, when there's a start time change, we communicate our ass off.
[SPEAKER_09]: And the second one is when Nikki Effing Diamond's going to be in the show, I get sixty goddamn text messages.
[SPEAKER_09]: because Rob did his improv show.
[SPEAKER_09]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but the fact is that's that it's frustrating because I don't know until you know because I mean here you are I got it in my mind.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm gonna be sitting here with you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I'm scared.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's time to call Gary Stein.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's call Gary Stein.
[SPEAKER_09]: Tony Perkins show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this would be his first.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been on a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was on for the launch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're the guy here on a rough day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is why they don't communicate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the first thing I heard was rough day.
[SPEAKER_05]: Somehow that sounds good.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hi, Gary.
[SPEAKER_09]: Hi, how are you?
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm wonderful.
[SPEAKER_09]: How are you, Gary Stein?
[SPEAKER_05]: Why are you speaking slowly?
[SPEAKER_05]: I speak English.
[SPEAKER_05]: I am fine.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's get right to the interview.
[SPEAKER_09]: How betrayed did you feel when Tony took a job with Dawson?
[SPEAKER_05]: When who took a job?
[SPEAKER_05]: What's his name?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, listen.
[SPEAKER_05]: I couldn't be more excited for him because I've tried.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not petty.
[SPEAKER_09]: I feel really good the Tony's moving on.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm really, I'm so excited to give green lip my new show.
[SPEAKER_09]: I will put anything you want to do.
[SPEAKER_09]: I will put on the morning at work.
[SPEAKER_09]: I will put a Gary Stein project on the morning at work.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you don't even need clearance.
[SPEAKER_09]: You do whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_09]: You you create whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_09]: You use your network producer contacts.
[SPEAKER_09]: If you want to do twelve hours with Ringo, I don't give a rats ass.
[SPEAKER_09]: You get it on and you put it on.
[SPEAKER_09]: That'll be, yes, Oscar, you wanted to say something.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just a quick sidebar and Gary ear muffs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember the time when Gary demanded the train fare and a faster manner from us to get down here to do a show?
[SPEAKER_05]: It was suggested in a firm way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you almost fired Gary Stein.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, well, that's spending money.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: This is about content content.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I remember how you handled it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mike, you said, look, let's address all of Gary's problems.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you told me, listen, just remember, I'm not doing any of the things you're just asked for.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I got off the phone and I said, I don't really know how we addressed it, but it's a done deal.
[SPEAKER_09]: We are talking to Gary Stein, who co-host the Tony Perkins show on the morning at where let's get a little bio for people that might just be tuning in right now.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's do this.
[SPEAKER_09]: Let's get a little background.
[SPEAKER_09]: Tony, why don't you give us the background on you and Gary, because it is an interesting story.
[SPEAKER_09]: I just met at Good Morning America.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gary is one of my dearest friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gary actually had to come in and kind of auditioned for me when I was at Good Morning America and the powers that be decided.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should have a dedicated producer because the producers, we've assigned you so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hate working with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Gary came in.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually had someone in mind for the job someone that I worked with at Fox five who came up and interviewed in New York.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that's going to be my guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gary came in.
[SPEAKER_02]: We met had a great conversation laughed a little bit and I just thought, wow, this guy is the guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gary has worked in show business.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is a former comedy writer.
[SPEAKER_02]: and actor although as we say on our show a failed actor but he said many acting gigs and Gary and I've always said when you guys came to me and said we want you to do a podcast which was wonderful I said let me think about what I want to do
[SPEAKER_02]: came back to you a couple of months later and said I'd love to do it but I want to do it with my friend Gary Stein because Gary and I over all those years at GMA and the years since we like to say we were doing the podcast fifteen years ago we just didn't have microphones and an audience and today we have microphones
[SPEAKER_09]: Working collaboratively is a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_09]: As a matter of fact, a lot of people don't know.
[SPEAKER_09]: He did the acting thing, but Gary, I believe, opened for Miron Cohen in the cat's case in the nineteen.
[SPEAKER_09]: From late nineteen sixties.
[SPEAKER_05]: At least you came up with the old time he records.
[SPEAKER_09]: I knew you'd appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, twenty W to Griffith, how to use a camera.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, all people, he's the one you talk.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he went further back.
[SPEAKER_09]: He went further back than I could.
[SPEAKER_09]: Nobody's going to beat birth of a nation.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_09]: But you know what, say, sad me, making it, you know, knowing the reference T. M. O. S. Classic.
[SPEAKER_08]: Here we are.
[SPEAKER_09]: I have to ask you about this because Tony just flew by very quickly, but said no other producers wanted to work with him.
[SPEAKER_09]: What was because I've never asked you about this.
[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_09]: What was Tony's reputation?
[SPEAKER_09]: What was I'd like to take a peek behind the scenes without Tony involved at Good Morning America.
[SPEAKER_09]: All right.
[SPEAKER_09]: I want to hear about Charlie Gibson.
[SPEAKER_09]: I want to hear about
[SPEAKER_09]: the dragon lady and I want to I want to hear I want to know I know I'm just kidding she's wonderful uh it the fact she can't hurt you anymore don't like the fact that you're still just calling her she I'm sorry or something
[SPEAKER_09]: Here it is.
[SPEAKER_09]: Tell us any tidbits behind the scenes tidbits at GMA, specifically around the Tony Perkins world.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm curious about that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really... Well, you know, interestingly, I think that he did really well for a while because I think for four years they didn't know he worked there.
[SPEAKER_05]: He would tell you, as I would tell you, that Charlie
[SPEAKER_05]: was like everybody's it was like father knows best story for the old reference but he was everybody's dad everybody's best friend we loved him and uh... when we felt like we weren't really getting enough stuff on the air uh... we would we would come as a rate with charlie was it was kind of difficult getting getting our stuff out there uh... i think i think i think in some ways to need was uh... miss perceived as the maybe being uh...
[SPEAKER_05]: aggressive about trying to get stuff done but that's because we couldn't get stuff done but then when we did everybody loved everything we did so we we were orphans in the storm I think that's how we got closer we were we were trying to get segments on the air and then we were
[SPEAKER_05]: We let a very schizophrenic life there because we were covering hurricanes.
[SPEAKER_05]: We went to Katrina and all of that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then we'd go interview a Rita Franklin.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it was a weird life and we really did live together on the road and then back at the studio and trying to get our stuff done.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we bonded tremendously.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he was listening.
[SPEAKER_05]: He makes jokes about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But Chontoni was very well-liked.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't like saying that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he was really good.
[SPEAKER_09]: Ask you you wanted to ask Gary something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was actually texting you like the question I wanted to ask Gary is was he misperseived because of the button he had under his desk?
[SPEAKER_05]: There was no bus to see because of the sign he hung on his door saying, I'm eating lunch now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't bother me.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: That note, that note on the door is real.
[SPEAKER_05]: You cannot deny it, Mr. Perkins.
[SPEAKER_02]: The note never said, don't bother me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just said I'm having lunch.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know what I don't know if anybody's ever asked you this Tony, but I will because I mean, you're up there and you're up there in the lower days.
[SPEAKER_09]: Did you were there any, you know, it's a small club.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, it is.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're there any rumors floating.
[SPEAKER_09]: Did you ever hear anything behind the scenes?
[SPEAKER_10]: It was an awful situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was an awful situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't remember hearing any rumors about Matt.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, in the years afterwards, I think like a lot of people, you would hear stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I met Matt a couple of times, I would not say we were friends, we met it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think a birthday party for Al Roker, actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I didn't know that side.
[SPEAKER_09]: That birthday party had ponies.
[SPEAKER_10]: I bet there was a lot of cake.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, this was early hours before the really big cake.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't remember hearing anything about any of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: What about the lunch?
[SPEAKER_02]: My lunch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I tend to, listen, if here's the crazy thing about Gary and I, Gary and I would work together all morning long, then we go have lunch together.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we, you know, in the evenings, we'd be on the phone talking about the next day show.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we spent a lot of time together, but frequently I would eat lunch at my desk in my office.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, I'd like to eat in privacy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would close the door.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gary has taken offense to that for many years.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna just win way more.
[SPEAKER_09]: I have to tell you, I'm the same way with my elderly father with my four-year-old and that's the one time it's like stay away from daddy.
[SPEAKER_09]: There's food here.
[SPEAKER_09]: Daddy does not want to be disturbed.
[SPEAKER_09]: Who wants to be disturbed when you're eating?
[SPEAKER_08]: We can't break your concentration.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's right.
[SPEAKER_09]: Spoon to mouth.
[SPEAKER_09]: Everything is eaten with a spoon.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, you're in the garden.
[SPEAKER_09]: Well, you're in the garden.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a creature of habit, Mike, you know, like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like outback is Saturday night, lunch is at twelve o'clock, you know, father of men.
[SPEAKER_05]: I, you know, it takes a shower.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think at the same time, but I was never around for that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if you have to break Tony's habits a little bit, it, it, it, it, it disturbs him.
[SPEAKER_09]: I think our listeners would want to know in this last question, then Gary will let you go do whatever you need to do because I wanted to give the I'd like to know and I'm going to put you on the spot right now.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry because I haven't had a private conversation with you about it.
[SPEAKER_09]: Husker has, Rob, probably has.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you said I'm down here in Florida, just going, you know, who a nice drive.
[SPEAKER_09]: He could in the fairway straight down the middle.
[SPEAKER_09]: My question, the future of the Tony Brigadier, a lot of people love that show.
[SPEAKER_09]: They like to know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I know I'm curious about it as well.
[SPEAKER_09]: The future of the Tony, everybody's a little uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's when I know I've hit on something.
[SPEAKER_09]: What is the future boys of the of the Tony Perkins show with the starring Jerry Stein Gary?
[SPEAKER_05]: Can I answer?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the future is Tony Tony has promised that he's got plenty of time to continue our our show and You know he's he's obviously he's on radio every day and you know just sucking up to Donnie and
[SPEAKER_05]: he's on in the mornings two two mornings a week which has to exhaust him because I know him he has to nap before he does the show with any you just so that he could look at her and imagine what things could be like
[SPEAKER_05]: And here's a thing he says don't worry.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love our show.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's it and I do too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mike, I have to admit I love doing this show.
[SPEAKER_09]: You guys have done some very, very special stuff.
[SPEAKER_09]: And if you haven't gotten a chance to listen to the American show on the morning at work.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's not like this show.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's different.
[SPEAKER_09]: They do all sorts of fascinating interviews.
[SPEAKER_09]: They have a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're very funny guys.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you get to see a side of Tony that you would not see either on the Donnie Simpson show or on his Fox News work.
[SPEAKER_09]: You wouldn't see that.
[SPEAKER_09]: And I think the show has been delightful for a long time.
[SPEAKER_09]: And really, I joke about Ringo Star.
[SPEAKER_09]: But you know, your fandom came through.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have a fan club.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Franklin President has just passed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Real life.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they have a fan club.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: The fan club still stands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, our fan club president died.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: Both Tony and Gary have been cleared.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, thank you.
[SPEAKER_09]: Right away, I love you all over again.
[SPEAKER_09]: We had to take that awkward moment.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's beautiful, Rob.
[SPEAKER_09]: I didn't know how to do it.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_09]: You get death on their Robo handle.
[SPEAKER_09]: I love death.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my favorite stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to say something about everything that you just said, which is wonderful and both Gary and I are and I've told you this are indebted to you guys for giving us this opportunity.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't speak for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: You start the suck-up thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I usually have to get off the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're happy you're hanging in there with us because we're struggling to make a buck for you guys and for us ourselves, but this is what I always tell people.
[SPEAKER_02]: The art, the show that we do, that is the most honest Tony you get.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not that I'm dishonest on TV or on Donnie Show.
[SPEAKER_02]: right right it is it's pure Tony and it is pure Gary it is it is truly our relationship of funny serious you know going at each other a little bit it's it's honest and it's fun and here check us out let's check us out
[SPEAKER_09]: And also I would be remiss if I did not mention the the one element the very large element is also part of that show Mr. Rofo Robforth.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, thank you for using that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are we are having a meeting after this show Rob may not be with us much longer.
[SPEAKER_10]: But to be Gary will continue.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, if he's no longer with them, they will not be cleared.
[SPEAKER_09]: I will give you the last word, Rolfo, is there anything you'd like to add to this dynamic about the Tony Perkins show on the More Network, featuring and story.
[SPEAKER_09]: Featuring, Gary Spine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd just like to say, I think Gary Spine's font size should remain the same.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: What more?
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you check out the Michael Maribone show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get it at Michaelmarishow.com.
[SPEAKER_08]: Michael Maribone radio entertainment.