[SPEAKER_04]: just when you thought it was safe to get back in the water.
[SPEAKER_04]: Go skiing in California, or plain instant round of Ouija.
[SPEAKER_04]: Several heroic shark breeds will surface to clear out Canadian parks, ski resorts, and bring solutions to prison overpopulation.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were a lot of bad movies out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen as we try to find the ones that are so bad, they're actually good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it just bad?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or is it exceptionally bad?
[SPEAKER_01]: Bad movies with your friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to exceptionally bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Ben.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm Brian.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm Nate, and this is a special episode that we wanted to do just because it's Shark Week, and so we wanted to observe Shark Week in our own way.
[SPEAKER_05]: In the words of Tracy Jordan, live every week, like it was Shark Week.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we actually, we've done something that we've never done before on the show, and that is that this is a triple feature.
[SPEAKER_03]: We watched three movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're just gonna talk about those today.
[SPEAKER_03]: But before we talk about those, I want to know, what do you guys, what's your relationship with sharks?
[SPEAKER_06]: I have, so I've done scuba diving.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've never come close to a sharp.
[SPEAKER_06]: And open water.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: The closest I've ever come to a real shark is when I was younger, there was a guy fishing off of a pier and like pulled in like a two foot shark.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we were like, oh my gosh, that's so cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you had to like get a five gallon bucket.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we ultimately touched it back, but yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the closest I've come.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you come close to a shark?
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so the closest I've come to a shark if you don't count that going to the aquarium.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because I remember going to see see world as a kid where you walk up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or it might have been a place in LA.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like where you walk across.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're walking on a bridge and there's like sharks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I'll around you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ponds below you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or like when you go to the like underneath them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that is like when you go to the like the Academy of Sciences.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: In San Francisco.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's that kind of tunnel.
[SPEAKER_05]: But so outside of like a museum nature park setting.
[SPEAKER_05]: When I lived in Australia.
[SPEAKER_03]: who there's sharks there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, Fisher friends not food.
[SPEAKER_03]: We were fishing.
[SPEAKER_05]: at, uh, I don't know the term, but it's like where the river meets the ocean.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Delta?
[SPEAKER_06]: Kind of thing?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so we were just sort of kind of a, I want to say the mouths of the river, but like where it meets the ocean.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we were hand-fishing.
[SPEAKER_05]: What I mean by that is like, you spin the line around in your hand and throw it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: As opposed to having a rod.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not like cat fishing with your fingers.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so we just, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how you hunt for crocs.
[SPEAKER_05]: But like, we were, um,
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm standing there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm standing there on the shore.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's well, yeah, so stand on the shore and I'm, you know, I have a great arm.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm throwing it in just not catching anything and I'm looking out.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know how seabirds will like dive if it's like a fishball or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I saw a bunch of activity.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how far out.
[SPEAKER_05]: A few hundred yards out.
[SPEAKER_05]: birds diving down and I saw shark surface and grab a bird like out of the air.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, right there at the surface, not like he not like those cool in breach.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not as cool ones.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like comes way up in the air.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like when it's catching a seal like you see on this.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that was
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it wasn't crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't crazy though.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whoa, but it wasn't far.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like real though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it was in the wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, what the crap?
[SPEAKER_05]: And then like some guys came back into the boat launch and they had like a big like blue crab.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: But they were like, oh yeah, there was a crock on the on the boat launch earlier.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, and there were signs like we were of saltwater crocodile sounds like this is like, and the whole time I'm freaking out because I'm standing like maybe ankle or mid.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mid-calf deep in
[SPEAKER_05]: This is like near Darwin, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you've ever visited Darwin, there's like a big sign.
[SPEAKER_03]: Only the people who make it out of Darwin survive.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's like the ten things in Darwin harbor that will kill you.
[SPEAKER_03]: The box jellyfish, crocs, the sharks.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so like I'm standing there, like kind of equally freaking out thinking like, there's going to be a box jellyfish.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just know it.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's going to be the crocs going to come out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just know it.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of those doctor poses.
[SPEAKER_05]: But a friend of mine did catch a little crab with his.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's my, that's my closest like real life shark experiences.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, that's a pretty good one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I've probably shared this before, but I saw once on the internet a map of Australia.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was yellow.
[SPEAKER_03]: The whole country was yellow.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that, you know, it had a black outline around it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it was the blue ocean.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the key to the chart said yellow is everything that will kill you on land.
[SPEAKER_03]: blue is everything that or things that want to kill you in the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: And black is things that want to kill you from both land and sea.
[SPEAKER_03]: That tracks with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have one encounter with actual sharks.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a tourist thing, but when I went to Hawaii, my daughter and I went on a shark seeing thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they took us out, dropped a cage.
[SPEAKER_03]: We
[SPEAKER_03]: We're sitting in the cage with a nice, with a snorkel.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're like holding on.
[SPEAKER_03]: You like pop on shallow enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're shallow enough that we can breathe through the snorkel, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But we're holding into this and then there are sharks surrounding us.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, these are sharks were between six and like ten feet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, they felt huge.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was surreal because also, although you could see for a very far distance underwater,
[SPEAKER_03]: they would just like appear out of the darkness and start they would just swim around us and you know it was like if they came close to us you know that they could just easily bite you if your arm is sticking out of the cage or anything it was there is this feeling that you can't I have never felt until I was there with the sharks where it was like I suddenly felt like I was actually prey
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, like I'm watching, you're no longer the apex.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not apex here.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it felt like and it was just, I mean, it was incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: We loved it, but it was also this weird feeling of, yeah, of scaringness.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other time, I never really saw the shark saw sharks during this, but and you guys might have experienced this already, but
[SPEAKER_03]: I grew up in Kentucky, which doesn't have an ocean.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do they have any uncharcced though?
[SPEAKER_03]: They are uncharcced for sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: I could make sure some sort of show cave shark there, uh, public.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's gotta be.
[SPEAKER_03]: But so I'm out here swimming.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was over at Stinson Beach, north of San Francisco, and you can
[SPEAKER_03]: walk really far out on that beach or in the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can walk really far out and it doesn't get above chest height.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was out there with my brother who was visiting and we're just playing around and
[SPEAKER_03]: Having a good time and suddenly I hear a noise and I turn around and there's a sea lion or a seal right beside me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean like I could have reached out and touched it and it was like swimming real slow and it turned its head and looked at me and gave a bark and just was kind of swimming real slow beside me and then I saw another one just off and suddenly this thing in my mind said seals are shark food.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you're standing next to shark food, you might get bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said to my brother, we don't want to be where the shark food is.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we started making our way inland.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that there were any sharks I watched that seal go for quite a distance.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he was in no hurry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if he was wounded or if he was just leisurely taking a very slow swim because they can usually go pretty fast.
[SPEAKER_06]: But, and this is one of those scenarios where you don't outrun your friend.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're being chased by a bear, you're the one that's left behind.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was, I really was, uh, suddenly getting, you know, I was scaring myself more than anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I really was suddenly seeing those shots from Shark Week on Discovery Channel of Shark's flashing water.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thrashing water, eating the sea lions and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was just like, oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the sharks don't want me, but they want that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, arm distance from that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I couldn't get out of the water fast enough.
[SPEAKER_05]: That made me take two things.
[SPEAKER_05]: So one, again in Dart, when I was living in Darwin, went to visit one of the beaches and the tide was way out.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we were like, oh, this is neat.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because we saw like a crab in cages on the ground.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because the tide was way out.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we go and we're checking it out.
[SPEAKER_05]: But then the tide comes in.
[SPEAKER_05]: and it comes in super fast.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we're like, oh crap, we're gonna get out of here.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like the time we actually got out, like it got to the point where it's like, I was way steep.
[SPEAKER_05]: But of course, I guess I was freaking out because crocodile sharks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would live in fear.
[SPEAKER_05]: But the second thing is, I don't know if you remember, we went to Capitola and you came with us and Danny came with us.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we were buggy boarding and we went over kind of by the peer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are the sea lions?
[SPEAKER_05]: And there were seals about like five or ten feet away from us.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't actually think about shark food.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm like, dude, that seal is like super close to us.
[SPEAKER_05]: I hope it does not decide to bite me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't know if that was the same time that like a fish just ended up on the beach and I was like, oh, grab a bucket and I'll put it into water and put it back and some dude just came up and grabbed it and hurled it back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that was the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it is as we're recording this it's June and June is the beginning of the Halloween season as everyone knows, at least the people who care.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you don't believe me, if you go to Michael's right now, they actually have Halloween stuff out.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I really start to feel the Halloween spirit in June.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, that's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you've ever watched the show Gravity Falls.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they have Summer Ween.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's an episode of Summer Ween.
[SPEAKER_03]: Summer Ween.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was at Walmart recently with my son, and there was a Summer Ween ad, and it was just like pool floaters, but they were Halloween.
[SPEAKER_03]: Halloween.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, Ben, Ben is not, I can back him up on this.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the start of Halloween season.
[SPEAKER_03]: So as I often do, I start to watch a lot of horror movies, though I'm watching a most of the year round, but as I really start to get in the feel of Halloween, I watch a whole lot more.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this year I thought I want to on purpose torture myself by watching just the worst
[SPEAKER_03]: movies like actually seeking out bad horror movies and let me tell you there are a lot of bad horror movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, if somebody is making a low budget movie, it's probably horror movie, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I watched a bunch.
[SPEAKER_03]: And while I was doing that, I thought, hey, some of these would be fun to just talk about with the guys on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I picked out three, and I chose these three for a specific reason out of, well, so the ones that we chose were avalanche shark, Ouija shark,
[SPEAKER_03]: and shark and saw women prison massacre.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so those are the ones that we watched.
[SPEAKER_03]: The ones that I did not choose were house shark, sand shark.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nazi shark sharks in the core sharks of the corn Let's say then also I didn't she well like shark NATO the obvious one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, and I didn't pick the ones that were the sci-fi ones.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's all the shark NATO's there's three headed shark for headed shark five height of the shark nine headed shark
[SPEAKER_06]: Shark as Shark versus whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then also there's a whole bunch of WG ones that I didn't choose like WG Nazis.
[SPEAKER_03]: WG, oh man, I can't even remember them, but there's dozens of them that I didn't choose.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if this person is going to be and type in WG?
[SPEAKER_05]: Shark or WG?
[SPEAKER_05]: And you get fifty results.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the reason why I chose these three is because they are bad movies, all three of them are bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there is a definite hierarchy in badness for different reasons.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you can judge it based off of their visual effects.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's some that are like beredemic level bad, then there's
[SPEAKER_03]: So that that I would say is Ouji shark is like bridemic level.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then avalanche shark is probably Actually, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe a talking cat talking cat level.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of feel like shark and salt women's prison was a talking cat level and avalanche shark is in between the two and as part of this
[SPEAKER_03]: I also watched WG Shark II because they set it up perfectly for a sequel.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I had to watch the sequel.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now you're into the trilogy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm waiting for the third one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so first I want to apologize for asking you all to watch all of those.
[SPEAKER_03]: And just so our listeners know, we didn't sit here and watch all three of them together one after the other.
[SPEAKER_03]: I gave it as homework for people to watch the other two, or two of them, and together we watched Sharkin' Saw Women's President Massacre.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, again, I apologize for making you watch them.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I wanna hear what you guys think about these bad movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're not gonna necessarily, we don't need to break them down individually.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just talk about them as a whole.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I watched Ouija Shark with my family, literally, watched it with the family.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the best way to watch it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, because it was, that was an hour and ten minutes long.
[SPEAKER_05]: So perfect length for this kind of film.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it was, we were sitting around and I was like, look, I need to watch these before we record.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then nobody really wanted to, except for my son.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, yeah, let's do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but so Adi, she's, uh, Adi's been on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Josh has been on the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Adi's like, all right, let's do this because you know, she's, uh, a couple minutes into it.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's like, I can't do this.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is too bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, let's just give it, let's just give it some time.
[SPEAKER_05]: And she's like, just someone recorded this on their iPhone five.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, it was that's what it looks like.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, well, two thousand sixteenths probably like the iPhone eleven, but yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um,
[SPEAKER_05]: By the end, my third kid is like, when are we gonna watch the second one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just had totally into it.
[SPEAKER_05]: They just had so much fun with it because it was, that one was exceptionally long.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna, I'm gonna just go, I'm gonna jump the shark here and go like, this is, that one's exceptionally bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: I highly recommend watching it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was so fun because it was so bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was, it was, Burdemic if Burdemic was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was my third time watching Ouija Shark.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that's three times too many.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not in the hurry to watch it again.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: My wife wasn't into it first, but by the end, she was like, this is funny.
[SPEAKER_05]: Addy kind of got into it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Josh got into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: you know and and as is usually the case with exceptionally bad movies is there are a lot more fun if you're watching them with people so hundred percent I also recommend watching wiki shark but make sure you're watching with a bunch of people who are willing to just have fun because it is crazy so case in point I watched avalanche I had to watch avalanche shark by myself because just because of timing
[SPEAKER_05]: And I had to watch it kind of in shifts as like I watched part of it on one night and part of it and another night and and I did the same thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Full disclosure this morning I watched like the last ten or fifteen minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's too long, it's boring.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that one was also not super long.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just didn't have a lot of time.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's a really good point.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like I could tell you, like I enjoyed, we'd just start because we watched those groups.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have a lot of shark by myself.
[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't enjoy it as much.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Evelynch Shark is the second movie after a movie they made called Sand Shark, which is about sharks swimming in the sand, not in the water, eating people on the beach.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't sure which one we should watch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stan Shark, or Avalanche Shark, and I chose Avalanche Shark simply because it was the sequel.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was newer than the other one.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like personally, like I lost interest in Avalanche Shark a couple of times.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually stopped watching it, not because, I mean, I got distracted by something, set it down and forgot about it, and then it was like, oh yeah, I need to finish Avalanche Shark, and it came back a few times.
[SPEAKER_05]: So some of my general thoughts across the three, yeah, is I thought a lot about like the concept of suspension of disbelief.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So which, you know, real quick is just like, how much are you willing to accept other things that are not real?
[SPEAKER_03]: Just for an entertainment.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just for the sake of entertainment.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so I thought a lot about
[SPEAKER_05]: about it, because I thought, okay, you're watching a movie called Ouija Shark, or a movie called Avalanche Shark, or Shark and Saw State, the Women's Prison Massacre, or whatever the actual title is.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like, okay, I'm walking with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm walking with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm walking with you.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a half to suspend my disbelief that sharks
[SPEAKER_05]: can be summoned through a Ouija board.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sharks can be swim through snow on the mountain.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sharks are in the middle of Arkansas that can go through land.
[SPEAKER_02]: Swimming through mud.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's that level of suspension of disbelief, but the always have to like, what is it a bridge too far?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I thought to myself, okay, what are some things in these movies that I'm like that stretched it or even went past my ability?
[SPEAKER_05]: My suspension would be like, okay, I can't go with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: So when I think about Ouji Shark, it's filmed in Canada.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Canadian cast totally.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's all Canada.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are, I think, two F bombs in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that blew it up for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, Canadians are way too polite.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would never see that.
[SPEAKER_05]: They didn't even know what swarbers are up there.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the other one was that that one girl at the park was so rude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So gleeful that said the shark attacked a boy, I'm like, that's not Canada.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so that was my first one was like, I can't I'm like, that was stretching my, my suspension of disbelief.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're in it for the spectral shark that's killing people making them pop, but.
[SPEAKER_05]: So what I mean, I mean, they don't exist.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't exist.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, so, well, but then when it came to avalanche sharks, I'm like, okay, I'll get behind the whole
[SPEAKER_05]: spirit of the sharks or whatever that premise is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cook them, skunk them or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I just don't believe that that many.
[SPEAKER_05]: people or women in particular are that interested in sex that they would not worry about like things like sharks or warnings of danger or any of them.
[SPEAKER_05]: That just blew that one out of the water for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't suspend my disbelief to that point.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can get along with the idea that there's these sharks that can swim through snow and that some random Asian tourists
[SPEAKER_05]: accidentally saves everybody I can get behind all that and then with the with the women's prison one I just couldn't get behind the cops like they didn't their point in the story was they had no reason to be there
[SPEAKER_06]: they felt like you remember the muppets in those two old do that are like not really part of the story but they're just like commentary and narrator stuff like that's what they seemed like in this movie they were tacked on later or that the prison guards can be that easily overpowered by that but that one I had a hard time finding something to suspend my disbelief because it was just
[SPEAKER_05]: but the thing that I couldn't understand was like the cops.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like what was their point in this?
[SPEAKER_05]: You could take them out of the movie and I guess it would be too short to qualify as a movie if you did that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like to pad it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also one of the cops was played by Tracy Lords who was probably the biggest name in that movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I can't imagine the situation there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, hey, Tracy Lords, we want you in our film.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I don't do that anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's like, I don't do that kind of anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, no, we're gonna make you the tough cop and she's like, okay, I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so then they had to just, she's like, wait, I don't have that many lines.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so they're like, okay, we'll give you more lines.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, so here's my thinking though.
[SPEAKER_06]: There is only one scene where those guys interact with anybody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: One single scene.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you in the end?
[SPEAKER_06]: I would be willing to bet that they weren't actually in the movie at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if they were
[SPEAKER_03]: like making a different movie like all together maybe and they just like took all of the footage that they did and like edited it and made it work until while there is a one point where they come across the shark right near the end though that movie was called lords of justice by the way though starring Tracy Lord
[SPEAKER_05]: No, but you could have taken, you see that sometimes in movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: You could have taken that whole thing out.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to brag on Star Wars, but like the rise of Skywalker felt like three different movies crammed into ones.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you could have removed the whole hunt for the knife and the movie would have made sense without it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this was like you could have removed the cops and in general, in my opinion, that's that is
[SPEAKER_03]: a sign of, well, when you're making a movie, if you're trying to make a good movie, then you do this process of editing where you just they call it tightening up, you tighten up the story, tighten up the edit or whatever, and it is, get rid of all the stuff that doesn't
[SPEAKER_03]: help the story push along, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But sometimes filmmakers, they're very precious about something.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was an idea that they love, or maybe it's the original idea that we talked about the Schneider cut.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are things that they want to show.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they stick it in even though it's not really helping the story, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Instead of
[SPEAKER_03]: making it a better thing by cutting it out because the truth is.
[SPEAKER_03]: We cut out those cops.
[SPEAKER_03]: The film will be better because the pacing will be all better.
[SPEAKER_03]: We won't have all these interruptions of this weird dialogue between these two people that doesn't have anything to do with what we're seeing, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: The only contribution to the story that they brain is they're hunting for some sort of criminals that we don't know what they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't know what they are.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't know what the criminals are doing and they find a body that looks like that looks like it might have been mulled by a shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know that they could have might have been a dead zombie right well, I mean they come to that determination later as they pick up more facts, but it's like that's the only contribution to the actual stories that they find a body and a person hiding it was a shark
[SPEAKER_05]: uh... the doomsayer of this movie kind of like the old crazy coutin and that's right who kept saying my dog he was my favorite character i was cheering for him to survive
[SPEAKER_06]: So talking about suspension of disbelief, I can buy that there are, what do they call them, shark assaurus?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: That live in giant underground aquifer oceans that are exposed to the Arkansas waterways via fracking, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And some kind of explosive mining.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: That I can all get behind.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and those sharks can also swim through rocks.
[SPEAKER_06]: What I can't get behind is,
[SPEAKER_06]: You have a bunch of women who are sent out into the woods to break up a bunch of stumps.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no stumps one.
[SPEAKER_06]: And also while they're escaping, how many costume changes did they have?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, they're literally in some random house in the woods that was by some dude who was like, it was a machine gun record dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's a, that's the coolest ice effect.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Although I will say the,
[SPEAKER_05]: the the redhead woman of the name's honey right yeah when she comes to break her girl for a present like she does have like a she did bring a bag of clothes so at least it explains why they have so many questions one one costume change uh... where's in cool as ice we never establish that
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because his bonus cycle just breaks down.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he has different clothes.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's got different clothes for different scenes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, where it was really just he was out for a ride and his bonus cycle broke down.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can we can we just point out though, like, these women did not look, they could have easily walked anywhere and nobody would have thought, oh, you guys are from the Arkansas women's state prison.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, are you telling me that the cutoff gene shorts and white tank tops are not standard issue prison guard?
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they are an Arkansas.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not very educated.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not educated to place an Arkansas.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm pretty sure they got those from the prison system.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got from the Rangers.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got from the major station of the prison system.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure we should we should mention say a thank you to the Arkansas prison system for letting them use the actual prison as a filming location.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, the Arkansas Park Service, the Arkansas State Park Service.
[SPEAKER_03]: The opening scene of that, the girls are loading up, they're coming out of the prison.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know it's the prison because there's a big sign that says Arkansas women's prison.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're coming out of the door, getting into a van to go on this trip to do work and
[SPEAKER_03]: on the other side of them is a board that says the entrance fee is five dollars per car if you have an extra car passenger's three dollars each and no overnight parking and it's obviously actually a ranger kiosk at the park
[SPEAKER_06]: I think what that happened is somebody paid somebody fifty bucks and they'd like look will be out of here by the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_05]: We only need to fill them up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's worth it's like, you know, you go to a national park and it's X number dollars for a week.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, to come in to the they paid like they paid the week.
[SPEAKER_05]: They paid their daily fee at the state park.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're like, oh, and it was somebody's brother.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, you can use the cave, but don't touch the still egg.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's be honest though, if you're sitting in that hot booth, and you're just taking people's five dollars, giving them a map and letting them go, and some van rolls up with a bunch of former porn stars and presuming, be like, hey, can we use your shed for a second?
[SPEAKER_06]: He'd be like, yes, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not to mention it's like October or November or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Supposedly in the sweltering heat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's supposed to be in the middle of summer, but you can see they're all falling onto the ground.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can see their breath as they talk and they're dressed in tank tops and kind of shorts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm sure it was a choice for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have a whole lot to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no from the the busy it was a slow part.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I could also get behind the sharks being able to go through, you know, like, whatever it's medium, but I can't get behind is how they rode till the earth to do this, but then the earth is fine in the next shot.
[SPEAKER_06]: Multiple times, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's not like it fills back in, because they make, they make a point of saying a few times, like, see that, see that trench that was, yeah, you can see it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you can see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Something's been through here for sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a tie, and it's clearly a tire track in the mud.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: and it tears up their front yard, number of times, and then it's all clean in the next shot.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or the heavy storm, and it's pretty dry.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's bone dry, and then I say, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I get only rained over the one cop.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, can we talk about that scene?
[SPEAKER_06]: No, that was my favorite scene of the entire movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it felt a little bit like an SNL skit where they're like, you know, they're, so the two cops, it's at night, they're, they're at some scene.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't even know, some crime scene somewhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so there's like, you know, the experience cop played by Tracy Lord.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the kind of green or the.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, detectives initiate or something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So they're talking and you can tell Tracy Lord's probably had something at our contract.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is like you absolutely will not get me soaking wet.
[SPEAKER_06]: So she's getting like a nice little just like.
[SPEAKER_06]: sprinkling the water on her tell it's raining and just get a little bit of battery that rain on her you think every time they're flashing off of him every time they cut to the dudes somebody you can tell somebody off camera it's literally just pointing a hose straight into it's like a car on the face like he's in a hurricane he is drenched by the end of it that is hilarious
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I want to talk about a Ouija shark.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, actually, let's, let me just ask this in general.
[SPEAKER_03]: How was the acting in general across these three movies?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, so I think, so, uh, shark insa women's prison massacres.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just call it shark insa for shark insa.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a mouthful.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: There was, I think the cop, the one cop, the warden, let's call him the warden.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if he would ask.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was like, yeah, the prison guard, let's say that.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was okay, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like he at least showed up to the scene.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: He seemed to understand that you expressed what the motivations are.
[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't we see that he was like a veteran soap opera actor?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's been in days of our lives and So he at least knew but I mean, it's like seasons that he was so he at least knew what to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_06]: He understood I lines.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_06]: He understood emotions and delivery and context of a scene.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that the rest of the girls felt like they read the script right before it and they probably had to cut out parts where, you know, they're like,
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm so angry, express a lot of emotion.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like, no, no, you're not supposed to read that, honey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, an exterior.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't know if they were adult film stars before.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if they were, they probably didn't have to do a lot of words.
[SPEAKER_03]: Didn't have a lot of lines.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to assume they were and so No, I don't I don't want to assume they were not all of them were for sure, but but if that was the type of act in here before they probably not a lot of talking We gee was dreadful
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is a plug for my daughter.
[SPEAKER_06]: So she just recently directed a high school play.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's a freshman.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That play had more emotion and more connection to the script and whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: And those kids can barely drive.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was definitely the worst.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that was part of its charm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is that it was so bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: The dad.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would say that he's the star of the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: Even though he's not the main character.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: He steals the show because he speaks as though he's the audio book narrator for a textbook or an instruction manual.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you know who he feels like?
[SPEAKER_06]: He feels like you remember the one kid in troll two where he's like
[SPEAKER_06]: They're eating him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they're going to eat me.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like he grew up and did not improve any skills.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, every line was sounded exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: His face does make expressions.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's how you know he's expressing something is based off of his face.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like, and also it's hard with what he's saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to tell is it bad writing or is it bad delivery or is it both or what is it because the answer is yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think what happened is he went the school of acting he went to was all mimes.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there was no line delivery.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just everything is done on your face.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which explains some of the hand motions that he was doing too.
[SPEAKER_06]: He kept putting his hands up like he's frozen in a like a glass box and they're like that's super awkward.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe let's give him spectral shields instead.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it doesn't look like he's crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the the first time you you're introduced to him in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's nighttime.
[SPEAKER_05]: So instead of it being like instead of them setting the scene where he's like maybe sitting in his kitchen table and doing like a cup of a cup of milk or coffee or something and he can tell it's nighttime.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's dark and he has this and all you can really see is his face and he's holding the coffee mug.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's like it's eerily lit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: His face is like eerily lit like he's
[SPEAKER_05]: like a yeah like a noir almost almost like it's just a light from the phone right that's lighting up his face and it's like why it's like did she wake him up because he's not in pajamas or anything it's just like and then then so you're like okay this looks weird and then he starts talking like what in the world's going on it's like is this an AI generated that's what it feels like I get old AI generated person
[SPEAKER_06]: It's so I don't know that I could even do it I would overact I would put too much emotion into it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It really is like so I mean you can tell like we're getting into it You know while we're talking, but it's all like oh my gosh, she fell down the river and she is drowning now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh heavens
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you will need to find the original, who the original owner of the Ouija board was.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can't deny it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Your family has a cult past.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to accept your occult history.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, that's too much emotion.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't pause.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's almost like zero.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's almost like, you know, like when you have Siri read things, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it sounds like.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's no emotion.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's literally just reading the word.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty good, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you really like his, his, uh, acting, then definitely watch Wigi Shark II because he's the main character there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you get a lot of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think moving on from Wigi Shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um.
[SPEAKER_05]: hopefully circle back.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would say of the three, I feel like the acting was the best in avalanche.
[SPEAKER_05]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was my least favorite of the three movies, but I think that the acting and it was better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it felt like people who are actually wanting to be actors.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say that with Ouija Shark and Shark and Saw,
[SPEAKER_03]: Certainly with Weezy Shark, it feels like it's just a bunch of friends who got together to make a movie and none of them are actually actors, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: uh, avalanche sharks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think was a bunch of people in LA trying to get jobs and here's a job that came right here's a movie you can be it's it's uh, I don't want to say they're all from central casting but like it's kind of like we need.
[SPEAKER_05]: We need a blonde women that look the same.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, here we go.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, like I'm not joking like I could not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Tell who would it's like oh, this lady died.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like who is she again?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I lost track of them as well.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to do an impression here of what this guy sounds like.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see if I can make this work.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty close.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the same energy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Evelyn Sharks had better acting.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was too big of a cast of characters for me to keep track of yeah, it was weird Evelyn Sharks had a lot of people who were like featured people
[SPEAKER_05]: but nothing like so there was the there was the dude that drove to the girls so it takes place at mammoth which is a real place mammoth resorts real place in California yeah place I kind of wanted to go visit now I really want because yeah because of the sharks and so it takes place there's a lot of shots of like the ski lifts showing in like it's a lot of product placement for a good or bad for
[SPEAKER_05]: But there's like he is very fast-idious kind of OCD about his schedule to get there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's the military guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, we've got to go in the girlfriend is like running late or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, he's a sister.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's nothing to do with the girls he's driving.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like the cousin of somebody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And one of the blonde girl's boyfriend, like she's like, see, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like we
[SPEAKER_03]: They never really met him.
[SPEAKER_05]: The only way I knew that there was two girls in the car with him is because one of them was one of the few brunettes that was in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so like and she was super rude to him and he was but he was his whole thing was that he was so OCD about stuff and he was making up a story about
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the one who's like, hey, let me try this story on you.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's telling the story of the actual story of scookham, which is like the spirit of the shark spirit that it happens to Mount or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's really doesn't matter what scookham is, but he wants to use it to pick up on girls.
[SPEAKER_05]: He wants to pick up girls.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then he meets the
[SPEAKER_03]: the Asian girl who on the ski lift.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, he meets her first in the lodge.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he finds out she doesn't really speak English.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the next time you see them, they're writing the lift up together.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's trying to talk to her.
[SPEAKER_05]: And one of my favorite lines is she's like, she's like, I know English.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, yeah, so do I. What's the big deal?
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, oh, any figures out what he's like, you don't know English.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that was the level of writing in that movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was infuriating.
[SPEAKER_05]: But then they go, but she does manage to spit out that she's going to go on the backside of the mountain because she's an extreme skier.
[SPEAKER_05]: She is able to communicate him in perfectly good English.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That that's what she's doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then he's like, oh, and then I don't remember what happens to him after that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it doesn't either.
[SPEAKER_05]: Does he get eaten by the sharks?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know a lot of people get eaten, but it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the military guy who survives for a while, but then he makes it to the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: He makes it to the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: He also had a great line where someone was like, Oh, what is this guy?
[SPEAKER_05]: Is he some sort of that case?
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, Oh, I'm a Marine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I said.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, you know, it's basically roughly the the jaws storyline where
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the cop in this case.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the sheriff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it decides hey, there are sharks out there killing people.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have to close the resort and the owner of the resort and the mayor and the mayor who Yeah, the owner of the resort and the mayor and the
[SPEAKER_03]: head of the rescue people, whatever you call the ski rescue rescue they all decide no we don't want to give up this weekend so we're going to keep it open and they like vote together to.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah so the major replaces the sheriff with the ski patrol head.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, the sheriff, the duly elected official of the county, he got replaced by the mayor versus Jim, the guy who lives in a Volkswagen versus the mayor versus the movie's biggest D-bag.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I mean, and that's a pretty impressive thing considering the characters in this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So to the mayor and the owners,
[SPEAKER_05]: kind of defense or whatever it's like they're like the mayor's like mammoth is like the heart of the economics of the city like if you if you shut down our most popular weekend which was like bikini skiing weekend or something right which explains why everybody was wearing bikinis it's like if you if you shut down like this most this is our biggest weekend if we shut down we're going to lose much rather could like be devastating the town so you kind of at least understand the mayor's motivation he wasn't like
[SPEAKER_03]: for a long time they don't see the sharks and they obviously why would you think that they're actually sharks at a ski resort right so you know what I am one hundred percent with the mayor here well if you see the movie you would be well so he's but even even if you take the shark part out of it yeah there were at that point like five or six missing people
[SPEAKER_03]: And they, the rescue guy, they didn't want to send the rescue guy to go find them because that would look bad in scare people and they needed people to be at the resort.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they didn't even send rescue to find.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the owner was like, oh, he's like, I'm not bringing in search and rescue because they're going to look.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're not going to find anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're going to charge me an arm and a leg.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so like, dude must have really, really good insurance.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the owner never actually sees the sharks.
[SPEAKER_05]: he gets killed by the avalanche.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: The shark's cause, which also doesn't really impact the move.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, doesn't even really impact them out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like part of like the sheriff's office gets buried in snow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But like you could still ski down.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, everything's still.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was basically like shark and saw where it was like the shark's tear stuff up in that it's normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The avalanche varies the sheriff's
[SPEAKER_03]: But you can still get out onto the snow through the door like you can climb up on the snow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, then you could go out the door on the other side.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the one lady kept looking out the window.
[SPEAKER_06]: So for our audience, I did not get a chance to watch this.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm learning along with you the absurdity of this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Did they, like, did they explain where these sharks go?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, so all of these kind of have an origin story, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, the Ouija shark has, you know, is tied to this huge board in the shark spirit or something.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then, you know, the shark and saw movie, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: There's the thing for fracking thing, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_06]: Where did they come from?
[SPEAKER_03]: In this one, the opening scene is two guys who decide to go snowboarding on the backside of the mountain where they're not supposed to.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there was like a don't cross tape.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, don't cross car like sharks and they say something like that means this is where we should go.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so they go and they fall onto there are like these
[SPEAKER_03]: You can play or which, like, would cross things, would cross the characters stuck in the snow with little dandily things and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: They land on them and knock them all down and then each of those glows and each one kind of like someone's a shark and in this case,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's skukum the like this ancient ancient Native American Native American spear spirit that is angry.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the thing that saves everybody at the end is the Asian girl who is also skiing.
[SPEAKER_03]: down the back of the mountain.
[SPEAKER_03]: She lands randomly stopped.
[SPEAKER_03]: She just stops and sees all these things tipped over and she just nicely goes over and sets them all up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And each time she does that, one of the sharks disappears.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so she's slowly doing that while the main characters who are alive at the end are about to be eaten and they're disappearing right at the right moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: That kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: There was also, so it was a combination of those two guys doing that and you know, they'll launch explosives into cause avalanches in the backcountry.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, it was the combination of those two things that not for stuff down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So those sharks, those sharks, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Almost kind of a mix between the Ouija shark and the sharks in in shark and so they were kind of ghosts, but they could also, but they could also eat you.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you would see their fins swimming through the snow.
[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't leave any trail.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, and they were literally, they were glowy kind of like, like, the look like it might be ghosts.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this might be a stupid question.
[SPEAKER_06]: If I'm a native American, and I'm setting up my spirit animals,
[SPEAKER_06]: on a mountain.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you live in the mountains.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I live in the mountains.
[SPEAKER_06]: What is my tactical experience?
[SPEAKER_06]: What is my real tangible experience with sharks?
[SPEAKER_06]: I just want to help me understand that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, everyone knows there is a totem pull out there with sharkids on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel I feel as though geographically that would make sense in a specific Northwest or along the coasts here.
[SPEAKER_05]: But mammoth mountain is like in the Sierra Nevada.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a three hour drive.
[SPEAKER_03]: at highway speeds, three to four hour drive at highway speeds to the coast.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the Native Americans on foot are going to take, I mean, you know, a long time to get to the coast.
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably don't spend a lot of time to the coast meeting the coast.
[SPEAKER_03]: If ever, if ever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there's at least a few things that don't really make sense about this movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's also kind of difficult to get to in the winter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, definitely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you've got to have four wildernessers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you almost like a fly in there, I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I could be totally wrong here.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the mammoth caves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't been mammoth.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's right next door.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was an Arkansas.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was a game sharks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was an Arkansas that you went to.
[SPEAKER_03]: So here's the interesting thing, even though those sharks fins don't disturb the snow, when they come up out of the snow to eat somebody, they have a big explosion of snow that comes out and then they eat someone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they just, their head comes out and they just open their mouth and they've swallowed a person's leg and the person is standing there, screaming and then the shark finishes by leaping all the rest of the way out and they just like disappear into a splatter.
[SPEAKER_06]: as you do.
[SPEAKER_06]: So what I'm reminded of is, do you guys remember that little wind up game where you had those little magnetic sharks?
[SPEAKER_06]: And you had like, I think it was actually fish, but they're like, it would rotate in the little, the little mouse would like open up and then snap shut.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I'm envisioned for.
[SPEAKER_05]: For the start.
[SPEAKER_05]: So sometimes there'd be a dramatic pause.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: For the person's like, oh, no, my leg.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then, like, and then, like, and we do Shark, they also kind of tended to explode.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we do Shark, they just exploded into.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was only, like, there was just bright flash in their dorm.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can I say, I was, I was extremely annoyed about we do Shark.
[SPEAKER_06]: How sometimes you would get a little splatter of blood somewhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: Otherwise people would just kind of pop into some kind of spectrum, something.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the cops found like a decomposing body.
[SPEAKER_03]: that was all kinds of pieces of a person, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But nobody else had body parts left behind.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or you would get full on mold, I mean, in in shark and saw.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, shark and saw, sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: In that one, you know, it depends.
[SPEAKER_06]: They either, you know, every day and leave a little bit of you or they full on mall you would just kind of bite your ankles off and then you bleed to death.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, I have a nice shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the whole shabang.
[SPEAKER_05]: You've been explode except for the ski patrol guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: We keep talking about him.
[SPEAKER_05]: So just a background on him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Since it's bikini weekend, like, he is, like, one thousand percent just out all about hitting on the girls.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not wanting to do his job.
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't want to go rescue people because the girls are not front of them.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he, one of his charms that he uses on the girls is that he has a bronze medal from the Olympics.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he says that to the shark, like, where he gives him kind of ultimately sacrifice himself, their towards the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: So he gets attacked, he gets involved, but he is just like, just chewed up.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's laying their motionless thinking,
[SPEAKER_05]: and they try to rescue him or whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then he was just like, oh, he's very selfish, but then at one point he's like, yeah, I'll distract him and he used to say, he's like, I'm the one you want.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have a bronze medal for the Olympics or something like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he, like every turn he is like, he makes it the wrong decision.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, not sending my guys out because it's like because it's the little brother of the Marine is one of the guys at the very beginning that knocks the socks of totem thing over and then gets eaten.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so he's being in the drum like the whole like his he's there with his girlfriend and he's worried about his brother the whole time.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's trying to distract him with And so he's so he's the whole movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's just like where's my brother where's my brother?
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's getting mad at the sheriff as a sheriff is like a do nothing sheriff from most of the movie He He doesn't want to do anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a pushover But the ski patrol guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like actively
[SPEAKER_05]: against doing his job.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I appreciate that energy, though.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's something that he says the ski patrol guy says at the end near the end of the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're all like, what do we do?
[SPEAKER_03]: Move to Florida and he says, I'm never going to Florida.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hear they have sand sharks, which was a call back to the earlier movie sand sharks.
[SPEAKER_03]: in which that actor plays the main character, who is the cop, the sheriff, who is the good guy basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I will say he's good enough actor to play different roles.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did a great job as an unlikable character.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was very unlikable in have a lanch and he was very likable in San Char.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it sounds like there's a common theme is
[SPEAKER_06]: the actors and actresses, which I will use at term very generously.
[SPEAKER_06]: It feels like, you know, like they heard somebody that's, you know, that joke of like, well, what's my motivation?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the director said, you are a hot
[SPEAKER_06]: girl trying to escape from the Arkansas prison thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, great.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're angry.
[SPEAKER_06]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or you look, you're in the pool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're interested in the pool.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're excited to get to this house and go swim in the pool.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: How much, how much of these movies do you think is actually scripted versus it's literally just a post it note with like a very short sentence of motivation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's totally that it's like, in this scene, we just need you to react to what's happening or whatever, you know, and it's like, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, because that girl that we said the pool thing, there's a girl in Ouija Shark who
[SPEAKER_03]: Like in the space of five minutes says something about wanting to get into the pool about every twenty seconds or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the pool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to go to the pool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait for the pool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Almost all of her lines include her saying something about the pool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's all she is completely one-dimensional.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it felt very much like if you've seen those like improv skits where it's like
[SPEAKER_06]: they literally give you a prompt and they're like, you're this character and you're trying to get the other person to figure out what you are.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're like, are you a person who's really excited to go to the pool and she's like, that's like, yeah, I'm totally what I'm feeling.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the irony of that is that she goes outside to get to the pool because she gets distracted by this hot nude and I use that term very good.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's on the ground, though.
[SPEAKER_05]: He does have an accord there.
[SPEAKER_05]: She gets distracted by this hot dude washing his car and offers the help him and then we don't see her for like another forty five minutes of the movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: She never gets in the pool, does she?
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she doesn't even see it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, no, that's not true.
[SPEAKER_06]: She goes in the front door and she sees the pool through the house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So she's so obsessed with the pool and the irony is like, she never gets in the pool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I don't even know she even goes in the backyard again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the one notices.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like no one says a word.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_06]: If your friend was like, oh my gosh guys, I'm so sorry for the power.
[SPEAKER_06]: She can disappear for all of a sudden.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like I don't care.
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like Tina come back whenever you are done with whatever it is you're doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Counterpoint.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a road trip to somewhere you guys don't live, like you've never been.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I would hope that if we went somewhere and I disappeared for several hours, someone at least would be like, hey, what happened to Nate?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he's that fool.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's hanging out with that hot Honda guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's talk about the eye lines.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_03]: In Sharkin' Saw Women's Prison, there, you know, five different prisoners, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, five different prisoners.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the first time that it's super-aggregious to me at least, there's five people standing on the inside of the house and they're watching out the window or the door to see these other people throwing up
[SPEAKER_03]: Dumbless of dummy.
[SPEAKER_03]: They built a dummy with an explosive on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're thrown it out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So all these five people are watching it and every single person is looking in a different direction.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, their faces towards you, but their eyes are all looking in different directions.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it felt almost intentional because it was so extreme.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then for the rest of the movie, there's this one girl whose eyes are never
[SPEAKER_03]: in the same place as everyone else.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like she's always looking at the wrong angle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Grant had a good.
[SPEAKER_06]: So here's my theory.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I was looking at her and I was like, it is so awkward because she's not, she's doing everything but looking where you would expect her to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone else was looking forward and she's looking down.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I think what happened is she was constantly looking straight into camera delivering her lines and the director is like,
[SPEAKER_06]: Natasha, whatever her name is, stop looking at the camera.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's like, fine.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so she looks just like two feet to the left of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I'm not looking at the camera.
[SPEAKER_06]: You a whole.
[SPEAKER_06]: But she's like not looking at the other actors that she's actively in a conversation with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh, even like the
[SPEAKER_05]: sudden romance with the, with the geologist assistant.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who seemed like for literally like an hour?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like in love.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, when they were talking one time, it goes into talks to her to comfort her and she's staring off into the middle of distance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when she finally looks at him, I think she's like, oh, I think she was surprised.
[SPEAKER_05]: She was there because she's just staring off in the middle distance the whole time.
[SPEAKER_05]: As he's speaking, as she's speaking, and then
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so weird.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's either that or somebody had the cue cards and she literally has a look off screen to read the cue card.
[SPEAKER_03]: You watch SNL and you see them reading off the cue card.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they're talking to each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's what it felt like three times she was on the screen.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that one scene where she's talking to presumably her soulmate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, she knows for now.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's just like
[SPEAKER_06]: Some so many horrible things have happened in.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just I'm really I'm like a certain extended conversation like I felt bad for dude and she's literally she's not looking at the camera.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's not looking through the camera She's looking about a foot and a half off of camera right and just locked does not moving is not her eyes are staring straight ahead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep It's weird And then later on there is the the Asian girl who
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this girl gets shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: The blonde girl gets shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Asian girl turns ninety degrees and freaks out like, oh, she's right beside me.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the girl actually was standing behind her shoulder backwards.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the Asian girl turns to look at not where the girl is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was very bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think she was just paying homage to her.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's like,
[SPEAKER_06]: I love her so much that I'm purposely not going to look at her.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we mentioned that it's the Asian girl, but we know she's Asian because.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, because of all the racial.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because of all everyone call it where they call her soy sauce, soy sauce, chopsticks, and roll.
[SPEAKER_06]: Basically anything that you could possibly, again, I think somebody saw posted note that says, you're a racist piece of crap.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why you're in jail is for bootlegging videos.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's doing a hard time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, serious crime.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you not see the FBI worrying in front of your cassette tapes?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, cassette tapes.
[SPEAKER_05]: VHS.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which agency is that the FBI warning?
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, by the way, have you guys seen the new news on that?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: You wouldn't steal a car that ever piracy is theft.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The font that they used was stolen like they didn't pay.
[SPEAKER_02]: No!
[SPEAKER_03]: Or the font.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's stolen.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So what would you say?
[SPEAKER_06]: So can we talk about what was charming and what was entertaining about some of these?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because we've been kind of dogging on it and they're kind of stupid.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, the spirit of this show.
[SPEAKER_06]: What is redeeming about these?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Nate already talked about Ouija Shark is just, it's so absurd and so bad that you really can't believe it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's way more fun than burdened.
[SPEAKER_05]: Especially because it has a really great plot twist at the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if we should spoil it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to spoil that plot twist.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to watch to the very end.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it does, it is completely out of words.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is nothing that says something.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there is no trail to follow to get you there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, it's fun, even though it is an atrociously bad movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: every nothing about the movie makes sense like the acting is bad the writing is bad the
[SPEAKER_05]: there's a chase scene so the kids that go to the picnic in the park that get in like the chase scene it's like you're wondering like oh did the camera man's arm get tired because it starts to just show their legs there was like or the autofocus turned off so they had to go like the ground to get the autofocus turned back on it was terrible like things like that just make that movie so fun to watch because you were like again we make the birdemic reference we don't know what the budget of this movie was but it was like
[SPEAKER_06]: But I love to how when they're running away from things, it's like a slow jog.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I'm like, they're like, uh, you need to slow down to actress because there's a big camera that we're running behind you with and we can't keep up with you.
[SPEAKER_06]: So everybody's kind of like half fake jogging.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't like that job.
[SPEAKER_06]: The trail is like a tenth of a moon.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know that jog that you do when you're like halfway across the crosswalk and like
[SPEAKER_06]: that the light is starting to change and you're like, oh shoot, I got a hurry and you kind of do that fake run.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like, you're not going any faster, but you're making all the motions to make it look like you are.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was what they were all doing through the woods.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I agree with that completely.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, and it's like, we got this, we got our permanent other parks for an hour.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so I don't know what the budget was.
[SPEAKER_05]: Probably higher than verdamics because it was made several years later, but like, but it was the same feel.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Budget wise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: So their budget was between a hundred and eighty two to three hundred dollars.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Three hundred dollars Canadian budget.
[SPEAKER_03]: Approximately two hundred and sixteen U.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not thousands.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you know what that is?
[SPEAKER_06]: That is renting an Airbnb with a pool.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or one afternoon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or someone's just using someone's house.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if that's if that budget is correct, that's three hundred dollars or less, like that's actually pretty amazing that they were able to do what they did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've said this to you guys off Mike.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I've made movies with my friends and stuff and making a movie is really fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like as I watch all of these movies, all three of them, even though some had higher budgets than others, I feel like these people all had fun making this movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: These movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: They know how, you know, their limitations.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes,
[SPEAKER_03]: when people know that they're going to be making a bad movie, they're not going to be able, they don't have the budget to make a really nice movie or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they go overboard with the comedy and the comedy is not great.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like what they did with Ouija Shark was totally in line with everything else in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like any comedy, any ridiculousness, it's all like
[SPEAKER_03]: I buy the ridiculousness start to finish.
[SPEAKER_03]: It all fits in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's the charm of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's different from
[SPEAKER_05]: the loss of pastor yes right in the loss of pastor I feel like they're like let's make a silly movie yeah and we each are like let's make this shark movie we could look my yeah I got a bonus at work right yeah let's make this movie and and I wrote it I wrote it on an app can and I wrote the script on an app can like
[SPEAKER_05]: I do feel like the energy was different than philosopher pastor.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm honestly curious, where do we think that three hundred dollars was spent?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because it's a number that is so absurdly low that you have to wonder that rounds down to zero.
[SPEAKER_06]: What were you possibly spending three hundred dollars on that it didn't cost more or less, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like laser cutting of the Ouija board?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well look, or notice some things that were like Uber low budget.
[SPEAKER_03]: the taro cards that guy used like photocopies.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were printed off on a regular sheet of tape.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're one sided and one sided.
[SPEAKER_03]: Completely white on the other side.
[SPEAKER_03]: The weed you board itself was like
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you call it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a pallet boards nailed together and then somebody would burn to the letters.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that was someone's high school shot product.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So those kinds of things, I think you get for free.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what it's saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like budget.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like it's not like there's a twenty five million dollar.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got crash scene, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like where did those three hundred dollars go?
[SPEAKER_05]: So I bet Joe the location is somebody's out.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, yeah, it was this actor's house.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is where they did the pool scenes.
[SPEAKER_03]: They might have paid someone to do the shark.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, to make the shark a fan.
[SPEAKER_03]: The foam shark.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, to build the shark.
[SPEAKER_03]: I bet that's where the money was all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, in the band, band goat that did the closing.
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably did it as friends.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they did pay them.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, they were friends, but they're like, we'll also pay you.
[SPEAKER_05]: But did you listen to that song?
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's, it's talking what it like, it's like, and everybody, I can't, these might not, these aren't those exact lyrics.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, and everybody had to die.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a Ouija shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's a very much, it's very much a Ouija shark.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is probably one of those things too, where they're like, look, we just, just for tax purposes, pay us twenty seven dollars, just.
[SPEAKER_06]: So we could tell people, we are a paid band.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: It all went to the beers.
[SPEAKER_05]: It took everyone to convince them to do the movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was the bar tab.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do we know how much, uh, shark and saw blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like at least at least in forty thousand.
[SPEAKER_06]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, their visual effects were a hundred times to be fair.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I will give.
[SPEAKER_06]: So.
[SPEAKER_06]: Shark and sob, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I will give them some credit.
[SPEAKER_06]: There were a few scenes where I was like, I can't tell if it's a practical thing or if that's a digital one.
[SPEAKER_06]: So there were a few that were like, okay, that's actually a good enough that I'm not taken out of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like the first time you see the shark, I felt like it was a practical effect that they had some sort of model they were dragged in mind about.
[SPEAKER_05]: But like it looks at least.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been very expensive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But at least that looked good enough to fool me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And considering that budget, the CG was pretty good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would have thought most of the costs would have come in like getting the actors from LA to Arkansas on Florida.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, probably.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they had people who were like, who had more experience.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were a few of their people had been on film for shows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: My favorite is that
[SPEAKER_06]: in their decision making process.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: The decided not to spend more than a buck seventy eight on their weapons.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: When they find all of the or whatever dollar store.
[SPEAKER_05]: It would tax costs that reminds us of that wanted to point out is like you know they find all the guns in the crazy dudes day prepers house.
[SPEAKER_05]: the sheriff's office in avalanche arts is very well stocked with with weapons like along all the walls of rifles and machine guns and people kept shooting at these ghost sharks to know a fact for the kept for the kept doing it yeah I mean but this is it's your only recourse because it's really new is go I don't think anyone ever really knew what was going on except for the crazy cute guy who yeah that's right the one guy who kept trying to warn everyone but he's crazy so no one would believe him
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and then the one of the blonde women, one of the, yeah, the hundred and fifty thousand blonde women that were in this movie, that looked the same.
[SPEAKER_05]: She, her parents had died, twenty-five years from the school from school.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is an awful coincidence.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so she- No one believed her then.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So she kind of knew what's going on, but no one knew the solution.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that was actually one of the things I hated was that like, oh yeah, no one even knows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, even the lady, the Asian lady doesn't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: She just saved everybody.
[SPEAKER_05]: She just like, oh, this looks like somebody knocked the silver.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm going to put it back up.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dang Duke.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think the budget was on Evelyn's shark?
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to say it's probably similar to shark and saw.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe even higher because a lot of people in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You think the budget is reported at three thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they must have been good friends with the owner of Manith.
[SPEAKER_03]: totally, on order like that they were closed or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, so we're fixing the lift this weekend.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, go ahead and use it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I have not really skied since I was in high school, but I grew up in Salt Lake where you know, it's winter sports or anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so right off the bat, we've got a lot of fresh snow.
[SPEAKER_05]: up here but like it's not there's no there's no there's no powder it's like a pretty well groomed trails pretty packed down and on the backside of the mountain there's like exposed rock like this is death this is not during skis season is not filtering skis yeah yeah i mean it's true it was maybe that's what it is it was late in the season it's like it was melting already it's like hey this is the i mean well and then
[SPEAKER_05]: It was warm enough that you could have like people in bikinis with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's pretty much so it probably was like April.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It sounds very much like the the shark avalanche folks and the shark and soft folks should have swapped seasons because it was the middle of the winter where supposedly summer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those particles are walking around.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's probably like, orty degrees outside.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then up on the mountain, it's probably like, seventy degrees under the sun and everybody sweating on the on the snow cap mountains.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that poor guy wearing his orange.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like his full snow suit, the rescue guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's he would have been just sweltering.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean,
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to shark and saw this was also my third time watching shark and saw.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm ashamed to say I've seen it twice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I mean, it was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's one that I wanted to watch with you guys because I really thought that it would be more fun with you guys than it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: So to me, shark and saw is also exceptionally bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I haven't sharked.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was just kind of bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just a bad movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: So here's the thing, if that budget was like two to three grand, these are
[SPEAKER_05]: legitimate like actor actors right so I recently looked up for the fun of it like what it like how you even joined like the screen at the school yeah just I just was curious I looked it up and like you'd to qualify like you have to have X number of roles and so I was like I wonder if all the actors were like oh I'll go I'll drive up to madness because now they're just doing it to
[SPEAKER_03]: Pat out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was I had a lead role.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had a lead role in this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and as long as it's some sort of affiliated.
[SPEAKER_05]: I could remember that makes a ton of sense actually because because he had to have certain number of roles or you had to be part of like a sister union or so I was I was surprised that
[SPEAKER_03]: very much seemed like you can't be a member of our union unless you're a good actor right you can't get any jobs if you're not a member of our union right yeah and so so it's you know in well at least in those in two of those movies cases the budgets were so low that it had to be just a bunch of friends doing it mainly out of goodwill just for the fun of it just to make a movie and hope maybe
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, add to their portfolio so that they could get some.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've got my B page now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Listen, I so I worked with a girl, recently, who her sister wrote a script and they were going to make a movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: They made a little pilot.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was going to be
[SPEAKER_06]: I had the opportunity to be the bad guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: So the whole premise, which actually sounds kind of fun, is it's this, these Viking demon dude, but in the hood.
[SPEAKER_06]: And instead of going the way that you think it is, he gets his A absolutely kicked by these, you know, the hood kids.
[SPEAKER_06]: are just like messing them up, you know, they're like not in our neighborhood, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: And so it kind of flips the script.
[SPEAKER_06]: So for her, it that's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's like, I'm helping my sister make this movie.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's all of our friends.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were like, we need to do, they're like, your tall, your blonde, you could check the box for that guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't have to say anything.
[SPEAKER_06]: You just have to put a mask on and some overalls.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, hell, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, absolutely do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I can totally see how those would be made.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have friends who have been in low budget films that are films, you know, they're totally in the same kind of category.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they are all like family.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, even if they don't know each other when they first start out, it's more like my friend is putting together a movie just like what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get together and everybody's working together.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's now everybody's lifelong friends after that and helping each other and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So all I got to say is listeners,
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want an exceptionally bad film starring the exceptionally bad cast, then make sure to leave a comment.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I will travel up to eight hours to be in the movie of your making.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got to get those credits.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're looking to get inside.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's now the goal of the podcast is we all want to get this.
[SPEAKER_06]: How great would that be to get our union cards?
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if I could get a sad card.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I work with some people who are members of SAC.
[SPEAKER_03]: He knows people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know people who know people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's going to say this is apropos of kind of nothing, but we went to the giant scheme, San Francisco giant scheme the night driving into the city.
[SPEAKER_05]: There was a billboard for some law firm, and it was a shark and a suit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was right after we just blew yours or shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right after we'd watched we'd shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, oh my goodness.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I have to say, I'm just noticing that you're wearing a, uh, a, uh, when shark fishing shirt from Amity, I'm the threat.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I don't know why I didn't notice that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was just, I've been staring at it all night and I've like, that's a shark.
[SPEAKER_06]: I guess I've gotten shark blind for more of the sharks that I've been seeing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't see fins.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought of something when you were talking about going over to the giants.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was, do you guys remember just a few years ago, there was a shark attack at Alcatraz?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember seeing that on the dock?
[SPEAKER_03]: think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: So my daughter was like her school with, she was at Alcatraz that day.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't see it happen, but because they were out on the island doing the tour for a field trip.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was, there's video of, I don't know if it was a seal or something, but this great white comes up.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great white shark comes up, grabs something, and then swims away and there's just this pool of blood.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a big splash and then blood.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was just right there at Alcatraz at the dock, where the fairy, that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can I tell you though, I would absolutely go watch the movie called Rock Shark, where it's a shark that attacks Alcatraz.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, let's go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your wife is a swimmer.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Has she ever swam from Alcatraz?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, has she swam in the bay?
[SPEAKER_03]: She has not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot of people do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: The bay's kind of gross though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there is the, there are races.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's people trying.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a triathlon out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's from Alcatraz to the, to the, I don't know what you call it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But we're by the, by the peer.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the peer.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think the closer she's done is the stand up paddle board.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: In the bay.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a bay adjacent.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let me just say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That place we're going to allow me to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have a friend who fishes in the bay in a kayak.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I could see upon his own.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: He fishes.
[SPEAKER_03]: He catches these fish and they're so big that the way they drag him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they drag him and he holds on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just tires about tires amount.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he just
[SPEAKER_03]: keeps him on there and it pulls him around his little kayak around the bay until he's kind of fighting it slowly, reeling it in as it's pulling him and then he showed us pictures.
[SPEAKER_03]: He pulls out these fish that are almost as big as his kayak.
[SPEAKER_03]: He pulls him out and he
[SPEAKER_03]: leans him over his kayak kind of like what you always see when like somebody gets a deer and puts it on the horse yeah yeah he puts it across the front of his kayak his giant fish and then he just paddles in and he's got this giant fish that he'll eat for months that sounds like absolutely the best sport because you get you get a ride yes and you get dinner right like dude I would be so terrified number one I'd be terrified that I get rolled yeah two I'd be terrified that it's gonna pull me in front of a boat
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like because they're oil tankers and stuff, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: big gigantic ships in the bay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And three, there are great white sharks in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what happens if I've got this fish across my boat?
[SPEAKER_03]: And a shark decides it wants it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you've got a gentleman in the sea.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you open in the sea, except for the fish is on your boat.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so the shark is also on your boat.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also the fish is largely your boat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I would say fourth, like why would I eat a fish I caught in the bay?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_06]: ninety-eight percent lead in mercury.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's always fun when you're when your food glows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Much like the cave walls in Arkansas.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just to bring it all the way back.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I was going to ask this question earlier is so a lot of movies we make fun of the exposition.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just like it's in otherwise like moot like fairly standard fair movie and then there's just like these weird exposition moments where it's like
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, Donna, remember when your mother died in that car crash four years ago, and they're basically like setting up all of the stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: She's like, yeah, I do remember that.
[SPEAKER_06]: That was romantic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where you there, too, and you saw the whole thing happen, and didn't have bad nightmares, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, too.
[SPEAKER_06]: In these movies, I feel like
[SPEAKER_06]: There was two, there was two, a couple different sides of the coin.
[SPEAKER_06]: One, it was like, I really could have used some exposition to understand what the crap is happening right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: But then there were other seeds where it was like, we were all asking the question, like, why is it so effing bright in this cave?
[SPEAKER_06]: so that yeah they're hiding in a cave that it's all lit up and it's so you can tell again they they paid their five dollars to go on the on the cave tour and at least one scene you see one of the lights in the background yeah and so we were we were debating because again three hundred dollars yeah I mean they somebody made the comment they're like why is this so bright in here I don't think I think this was done I think this was done after yes so I don't I think somebody realized like while they were editing it like
[SPEAKER_06]: Why is this so freaking bright in this game?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's during this scene where we don't see any people were just kind of like panning.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they're kind of walking in the background.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and so it's kind of a long drawn out thing where we're just seeing the cave.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the male voice in the voice over is not either of the men that are in the cave.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, supposedly, I think it was the Asian girl that it was like, why is it so bright in this cave?
[SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, oh, that's the bio luminescence from the blah blah blah that creates cold light.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like,
[SPEAKER_06]: By a little bit, that's, it makes cold lately.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: The thing that was so great is, it's like cold fiction literally right after someone said, why is it so bright?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like one of us said, why is it bright in there?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they answer the thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can I ask another just burning question?
[SPEAKER_06]: Is, why is it every shark movie makes the sound?
[SPEAKER_06]: What is it about sharks?
[SPEAKER_03]: Listen, have you ever survived a shark attack to tell everyone else what a shark sounds like?
[SPEAKER_06]: Pretty sure heard that from across the ocean when I saw that shark.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, listen, if I heard that noise in the ocean, you better believe I'm swimming faster than I have ever swam.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I genuinely curious in both movies.
[SPEAKER_06]: And even the subtitles.
[SPEAKER_06]: It says shark growling.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: What is it about sharks that are growling?
[SPEAKER_05]: They just had to give them some sort of noise.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you don't know if they make noise or not because they're in the water.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so I think they had to do something because crocodiles, they do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think crocodiles do make a noise.
[SPEAKER_06]: But it was, they do vocalize for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think, well, and when they do, they definitely don't sound like whales.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not our good song, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Talkin' like whales.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll shut up now.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's so funny.
[SPEAKER_06]: I got to stop poking holes in these movies because they're top tier.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we should wrap up this was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you guys had fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's special episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have to go through and do the whole bad exceptionally bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: We kind of did that unless you guys have, do you have any last thoughts?
[SPEAKER_06]: I would watch shark and saw again.
[SPEAKER_06]: In fact, I did watch a twice.
[SPEAKER_06]: We G shark, I would have trouble watching again because it honestly does feel like a high school project.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I haven't seen shark avalanche shark or whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you look at, I feel like I kind of have to watch the answer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shant, sand shark and avalanche shark are equal in
[SPEAKER_03]: like quality, but I think sand shark is more entertaining.
[SPEAKER_06]: What is the bikinis per bite ratio?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, one is on a beach and one is on the snow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's in bikinis in both cases.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's summer, so I'm going to watch the sand sharks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, also you'll never go to the beach again after watching sand shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: So how many times are people going to be like, oh, I'm going to do some sun tanning while they're in like a covered canopy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think ever because they're literally on the beach.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's again, I think it all takes place on one beach in one afternoon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of the same people involved with that one.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it clocks in about a hundred percent of the times when someone exposes why they're changing into the bathing suit on.
[SPEAKER_05]: We do shark that they want to get.
[SPEAKER_05]: They want to get tan, but they're in the shade.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but otherwise otherwise when they're at the pool and they're in their swimsuits that obviously make sense because they're swimming but like it's like I'm gonna I want to I wanted to catch some rays But you're sitting under this picnic here sitting in the gazebo
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, she was, she was garbage anyway.
[SPEAKER_05]: She was a garbage person that didn't notice when she dropped half a cracker into her bikini and then the boys, like, hey, you'd spill, never mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like it happened to me too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the shark chases him and she's like, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good one after him first.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so I would say in all three movies are definitely people you're rooting for the shark to get.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_06]: But maybe that is a good sign of acting.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, it's like everybody hates Malphoy.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, that's like, hey, you did a good job then.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like he's an unlikable character.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, I think that I would echo the saying like, would you shark watch with a group?
[SPEAKER_05]: Wait, it's fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just thought of something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are there crackers in avalanche?
[SPEAKER_03]: because there's crackers in wiggie shark and there's crap on a cracker.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's the catchphrase from that movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if there's any food.
[SPEAKER_03]: other than people.
[SPEAKER_06]: He did mention that there was a lot of white blonde girls and in some circles those are the first two as crackers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to think if there's any food in that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he was talking to the girl in a bar, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: He was talking to Asian girl.
[SPEAKER_05]: at uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[SPEAKER_05]: So, all right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would do, I'd say, we'd do shark, shark and saw watch with a group of friends.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Super fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: I have a shark.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd give it a pass, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't hold it against you if you said, oh, I don't want to watch that anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on a cracker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, that was terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can we fix that in post?