[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, White Sox fans and welcome to another edition of the Future Sox podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Ian Eskerj joining me as always.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. James Fox, how are you James?
[SPEAKER_00]: Good man, what's up?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was a interesting cross town series.
[SPEAKER_00]: The White Sox held their own for the most part.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if it wasn't for a, you know, obstruction slash interference call, they're tied going into the ninth there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of unfortunate.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's been like pretty good baseball since we've been bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, what are they?
[SPEAKER_02]: They were six and three in the last nine, I think, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, obviously five and one start and then lose two or three of the clubs, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think some people are getting a little bit over the skis as far as like final record stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to win seventy like no, they're not, um, you know, they're they're the worst team in the American League.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um,
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you just like look at the standings and what they would have to do, like I think there's an outside chance that you go sixty three and ninety nine of what a hundred losses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's what I'd be really tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd be really tough, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's like the, oh my god, these kids really took off and that sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean that, but still, I think you'd still be the worst team in the American League.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the A's are playing well and it's I think it's a race with the white socks and Pittsburgh for those those like two spots essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the young guys can play well and you'll see kind of what happened today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all these young starters, man, they're going to get three, four innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's going to it's just it's going to be, you know, interesting on the stretch here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see how many people they trade.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say probably the outside shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: For the American League would be the Orioles just because they have a pretty close strength, the schedule left and they have even less pitching than the white socks do, even if our starters are only going for innings, it's still better than the pitching that they have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's no incentive for my Goliast to, you know, he doesn't care, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows that he could get a top three pick this year and still technically be a contender.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I could like they could bounce right back and contend next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: um potentially if they want to spend so yeah they're a little bit frightening um Miami like might be kind of good so there you know that's yeah I think Saxon Pittsburgh and the least I saw that Pittsburgh team in person and woo boy like not not great and I know it's different with like schemes and color pitching but holy cow like as soon as I don't know like we haven't really talked like
[SPEAKER_02]: They just like kept throwing with lefties and I'm like in the stands like what do you people do it like it this socks and I was telling my my wife and my in laws and everybody that cared to listen to my nonsense I'm like you know one of the only things the white socks can do right now is mash lefties and Pittsburgh's like here's another one like as the socks court eight runs and
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you know, at least it's been entertaining and it has a much more positive feeling to it than last year dead because last year was pretty much the worst feeling that you could possibly get.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, there's kids plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even the veterans are like fun veterans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, how could you hate Michael A Taylor?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, even if he's just, you know, very hugable, you know, I think Mike talkman's like legit like the curious case of Mike talkman for me, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: like I just like for whatever reason nobody's ever paid this guy any money like I just it's just like puzzles me because I think he could legit help like an actual good team and like nobody's interested in him and the socks are going to keep him in tender um like it's like what what am I like austice later I have to squint right it's like look at these numbers against lefties he could really help you um but I mean some of that's like look it's austice later everybody probably has one of those guys my talkman's like kind of good
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he could definitely help somebody.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, like, I get the idea that you don't feel that you have to move him because you do have that extra year of control.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, by all counts, I'm both sides of town is that he's really well liked in the clubhouse and he's an awesome guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he comes up in the clutch and he does things the right way.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that said he's a little bit older and slower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the speed is gone from his game.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, but I think he could help somebody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, my thing like, too, yeah, like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely trade him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the best outcome, but like if they don't get anything useful, like I totally tend to him and keep him next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's there's no reason for me to dump him for like a DSL pitcher or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I need I need something of value for my talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: But otherwise I'll just keep him and
[SPEAKER_02]: He can help our next wave of guys next year like he's helping these guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: So really quickly before we get into this dog asked me about Pittsburgh.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been to that stadium a bunch of times.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's my favorite one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that I was laughing about, I saw her Florence and I was there and a bunch of other people who were there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the Saturday night show or the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Saturday night game.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a Mac Miller bobblehead night.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, for those who don't know, like Mac Miller, the famous rapper from Pittsburgh, this was like a blind spot for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I knew that this guy had died and I knew it was, you know, the fair, it was like over, like, coding or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just didn't know like the level of star this guy was, like in that city, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's people lined up on the bridge for ten hours for these bobbles.
[SPEAKER_02]: like there's just people lined up on the bridge waiting to get in and it was like a crazy like it was like kind of like like if you ever go to a game at rigley there's just like a million people out on the street and food trucks and bars and all this stuff and we're like yeah I mean we're obviously not going to go in yet we're not going to wait in the line but once the doors open
[SPEAKER_02]: They got all these people into the stadium within like fifteen minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Jerry Ryan's door of could never.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, oh my god, like this is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing we were talking about is like filling that, like somebody made the combat, like who's the equivalent, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Chicago doesn't really do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if Kanye West died or chance the rapper died, we would not be lining up for hours for his bubble head doll.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the craziest thing I've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was, it was incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at this point, I think if Kanye had a bobble head by the white socks, I'm pretty sure people would ride it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, is there any like musician actor that we would, like, I just, I mean, we had an ice cube bobble head, so that was cool, but he's not from here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bernie back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, does anybody really care?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I like Bernie Mac, but yeah, I don't think that a bobble head would, I mean, I don't think it would move than it certainly wouldn't move the needle like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was not man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like holy cow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually now that you mentioned it, I'm really curious as to what kind of bobblehead.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the lines get pretty absurd for giveaways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the time, but I'm kind of curious like what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which one would it have to be?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that line at P and C was across the clominy bridge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was over the bridge.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was there around the corner all the way down the river.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we were in like a spotted downtown where like I couldn't see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We stated the Omni William Penn.
[SPEAKER_02]: Josh Nelson, you know, host of the Sox machine podcast, stated the Renaissance and his room was like overlooking the he was like taking pictures of the people lined up on the bridge and it's like eleven o'clock in the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like a six o'clock start it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like on like anything I had and I knew kind of you know like my wife told me like oh yeah, it's really popular.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay Like I knew it was from there like it was it was nuts Yeah, I was I was pretty blown away seeing that line and you know like I know Mac Miller's like
[SPEAKER_02]: know he's something I mean I worked in the music industry so I get it I'm just I was shocked at how long that line was well I guess I didn't know that like okay he's from there right but he I guess he wore that with like a badge of honor like I don't know anything about his songs but like it's in the music right like it's he's a Pittsburgh dude that like loved
[SPEAKER_02]: that city and that team and hey like they filled the place up man it was correct like I couldn't they filled the place up like two nights um they deserve a lot better I know we got it rough too but like it's it's not great
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, B minor brings up Michael Jordan.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would that would certainly do well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Michael Jordan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Forty five barons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob will have like I'm in.
[UNKNOWN]: Forty five.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said he specifically says MJ.
[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty three.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have to agree with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I don't think the parents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the barons.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bob will head would do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you want the Michael Jordan basket ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob will head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, you figured out something.
[SPEAKER_02]: How about Dennis Rodman and W. Oh, Bob.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could dig it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that one's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like it, but it's not going to be aligned down the street for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably not.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just want to keep it at the trade deadline because we got a bunch of people for now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if we have a couple of questions that's fine, we do prospect stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, we were going to go with a prospect promotion to start, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, there's net curve stuff in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boy was I wrong about net curts like my freaking goodness.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, got to the red.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think the reds are none.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fills to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: So to me, the Robert stuff is really interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it seems like Matt's Philly's Padre's.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Padre's and Philly's are both desperate teams with GMs that do crazy things.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's going to think it's interesting that Philly's in town this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's lots of mess rumors out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know how to interpret the Bob Nightingale stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the fact that Mark the Antosus name is out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think people are underwhelmed by that because he's like probably first base DH.
[SPEAKER_02]: but he was really good last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he stinks now, but he was like hitting in the playoff last year and hit twenty seven homers like in the majors, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And you got people who are like talking about getting drooled Gilbert.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, give me the guy that's like hitting the majors for Luis Robert.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not really Vargas two point off because he said twenty seven homers in the big league.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he was really, really, really good last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why the mess would do that, so I don't really know if I buy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, like, well, I think Robert's gonna move.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing today was weird where they de-aged him, like, after initially saying he couldn't play.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're gonna be underwhelmed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Regardless, I do think it's funny, like any time John Hammons says something, it comes right from the Boris agency, like, hey, there's lots of teams interested, like, yeah, sure there is.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it should be an interesting four days.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the socks are, you know, we're in the middle of doing top thirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think somebody, you know, we're going to be like rearranging our top ten or anything necessarily.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think they're going to make quite a few deals.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just think it's maybe like five six players probably at least and you could get to the last hour and trade Slater for anything or a Dan Altavila for anything, you know, it's just one of those things or I think they want to clear roster spots so they can play kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you on the thought of package deals?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love it if it gets you a better guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if you're going to dump all the guys anyway, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Then trade three of them do enhance your return and they should be paying money.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not I'm not I'm not opposed to it, but you know, I'm of the same thought, you know, I don't I don't need like, you know, five prospects back for the two guys that we send you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me one good guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I care about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like if I have to like include Tyler Alexander like in a fight like that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to left your reliever too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can have this guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a plethora.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got a whole bunch of these dudes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, I think it's interesting James Fiegen wrote today and it's article that the white socks expect to trade slater like in the final hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like somebody will just want that right head to bat for their bench sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Michael Taylor, I think it could probably help somebody too, but you could keep him certainly.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to bring you anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe he's your just your centerfielder or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Robert and Houser gone, you know, there's other guys I'd say yes, but I think those are probably the only two for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think Gets is kind of showing us like, he'll, he'll trade anything that's not going to be here the next time they're good.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did this last time.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did this last time.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll to do the floor.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll trade it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've had this talk in our in our chat a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we kind of feel maybe different than the concern now it's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, like I don't think it's going to happen, but I don't think it's that crazy if you think he's a reliever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the thing that would suck is obvious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that would suck is if you did it, and then somebody started him and you got burned.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would suck, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other argument is like, okay, how about we make him an awesome reliever first, then trade him, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you can get two top one hundred hitters, I might do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I might
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I said to be flow on his tweet about his, you know, his blog that he put up about trading Grant Taylor.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, I really don't want to, but if somebody starts coming in waving Max Clark in my face.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would certainly be quick to reconsider and, you know, like he says, you know, scared money doesn't make money.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, maybe some other team says the same thing about starting Grand Taylor, is that being scared about him getting injured is not what we're worried about, we're worried about winning baseball games.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be the furthest thing from everybody's mind right now, which is kind of aggravating, but
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, think about it this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Think about, like, if next year you're better, right, but you're not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he's one of the best closers in the American League, those guys go for a ton, it would be like, I mean, Oakland keeps turning down trading Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it Mason Miller?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's the same type of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's where like I would be more inclined to wait even though I would be open to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not convinced that like if you told me for sure like oh he's coming to spring training as a starter next year, then okay fine, like I probably wouldn't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like I'm just like not convinced that they're not going to just leave him in the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I always trade relievers always.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if they're insistent on keeping him in the pen, then I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to answer your question on your baseball, he says Max Clark, let LMAO no shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's specifically just based on value, you know, and Grant Taylor has basically the same value as a Max Clark, you know, in the rankings.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't make the rules.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just what they are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, like what about like if the Dodgers gave you two of their guys in their top one hundred, right, like if you could and I don't think you could get Alex Freeland and, you know, what, whoever who's the the other guy they got for us all to Paula.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right, like though, I mean, that's going to be that stuff to turn down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know that the Dodgers would, I don't know that the Dodgers would do that, but it's six years of control of Grant Taylor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, yeah, it's a huge amount of value and
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if, you know, today, of course was not, yes, I hope James, thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, as I hear hope, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, today, I kind of felt like he was getting squeezed and it put him in a bad spot right out of the gate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the clubs made him pay.
[SPEAKER_00]: They played well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, go back and look at like who, like some of the guys that were traded last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, who's the Dodgers, the Dodgers Closer that was on the Marlins last year that the podger is traded for, the lefty.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like the best delivery, but I'm just saying, like, the podger is did this for two relievers last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: They empty their farm system, robby snowing, multiple other prospects, like for relievers, for rental relievers, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we just saw the Orioles trade a guy that you have never heard of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they had Tanner Scott.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they draft slater to burn with the pick that you know that they got for that guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just relievers go for crazy prices especially.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was exactly my thought as to why somebody you know like I'm not up for you know I said I'm not up for getting you know like
[SPEAKER_00]: teams like ninth ranked prospect and their thirteen thir fifteenth ranked prospect and their twentieth ranked prospect.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to if you're going to deal something like that, it needs to be like top two or not or nothing at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I get own Casey, I'd probably consider it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me think so so bottomers a top one hundred prospect now at pipeline, but he's been top one hundred a baseball America for a while for quite some time now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess I feel like this was on my timeline that like a lot of people were tagging me and thought this was a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I just kind of assumed he was already top one hundred a pipeline.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't really realize he wasn't
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're also today.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking to Jim Calis this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, should be out on Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to recap the draft.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's any deals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, obviously talk about those.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have some questions about their prospect list.
[SPEAKER_02]: He sees a couple of guys similarly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I think how we do so?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What time is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, three.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Two thirty here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it three thirty here tomorrow?
[SPEAKER_00]: What did they the trade deadline?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the trade deadline is not until Thursday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought it was tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's the thirty first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's the third.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, we got time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot of stuff today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was jumping the gun here for some reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wish it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it's the thirty first.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what nothing's happened because these teams just like wait until the absolute last minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, okay, I guess we'll sell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I mean, I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these teams think that they're still possibly in it, but I mean, yeah, one minute, I get like there's like ain't the very angsty cubs fans who like think that Jed should have made a deal or he put it's like, I mean, you don't know what they're being asked for right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's no reason why like teams haven't backed off their initial asking prices yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so what did what did you make?
[SPEAKER_00]: of the Robert controllable for two years thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he technically is, I mean, you got him for two years and forty million if you want it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If he's good, and if he's good, he's a bargain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that's a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But would anybody in baseball pick up that option right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's my thought and then they said that I think it was like, uh, somebody some trade rumor guy said that the white socks were viewing him as a two year investment and teams are looking at him as a rental.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're not seeing eye to eye on the return.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think no way I just think those socks are lying like I've talked to media members who I trust that are like oh like they've said that they're keeping them like I like I just I just there's no way Jerry Ryan's worth picking up a twenty million dollar option on a guy that's bad now or the perception is that he's bad right he's been terrible against right-handed pitching
[SPEAKER_02]: Like his swing decisions are better.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's walked more than he's ever walked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he still hits the bad hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's awesome against lefties.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's good in center.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like for whatever reason, like his numbers, he can throw into pitching or atrocious.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if like, you know, you have your enoceruses of the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: And these guys who like just pull up his WRC plus, they're like, oh, he sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's got value.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, what does that bring you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Does it bring you the thirteenth and eighteen thirteenth prospects?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like on the mats?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he sent an extension with the royals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that makes that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the royals are going for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wouldn't trade.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't trade it for stuff that would go anyway because he was going to opt out at the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if you saw this as well, but I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fettie got traded to the braves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they do, they do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do a pretty good job.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if they'll turn him around.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be surprised if Fetti is like back here in the off season.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's your cheap like one year, seven million dollar number four starter, like whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could be I kind of wonder what's going to happen this off season because you got so many guys that are going to be kind of returning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a lot of them, you know, are going to have limited innings.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's going to be that as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's going to be a big, I mean, big pile of pitching, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You would assume Noah Schultz is in a battle, you know, with Tanner McDougall potentially, and the guys that are already here, Shane Smith, Sean Burke, Canon, Davis Martens here, Mason Adams and Thorpe will not be ready, but they're in the mix, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You just got a whole bunch of guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: that are in the mix.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they'd go all kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think maybe some sort of veteran like Savali type or you know, how's her type guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I mean, they're going to have a Thomas starting pitching.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess if we'd probably move away from that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we'll figure out, like if guys get traded, we'll see if we have like extra trade deadline shows or any of that sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they have a couple of relievers to get moved.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think how is there gets moved to the Robert gets moved.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else would be a little bit surprising.
[SPEAKER_02]: My sneaky one, you know what it is, take a guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a sneaky position player who could get moved and word just like, oh yeah, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: because it would clear up a giant log jam that they're creating for themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know if he has any value.
[SPEAKER_00]: Josh Rojas.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think if they traded Leningsoes, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because to me, like, and we're going to get into Montgomery, like, I don't know how much of the Montgomery, it's third thing is, like, if they think he's a third basement, so they're doing it, or if they literally only trust source in a place second, which means my draft has to play short.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, so it's the kind of screws everything up because they don't trust him to play anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if he's in the line up, he has to play second.
[SPEAKER_02]: My draft has to play short and Montgomery Place third, which is kind of what, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I obviously, I saw it in the comments earlier and I saw people complaining about so says base running after he decided to try and take third on that, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: dropped dropped pop up trying to get a double play and he basically walked into it and I know that fans would not be upset seeing gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, just because it's baseball IQ is lower than you would like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I, you know, we'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he has any value.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they would just dump them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do think it's, it's a bit of a conundrum, especially like if you, if you got Mark Vento somehow, I mean, like what are we, what are we doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like another righty corner.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, I hear you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you don't get him and keep keep some of these guys around like they have to go at some point.
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to free up some of that log jam and it is a little bit too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Although I don't, you know, personally, Viento says, you know, he's done it at the at the level, but struggles are no bueno either.
[SPEAKER_00]: So
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, when we talk about, like, they don't have any power, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But then we're like, oh, they can't, they can't get a first-based, like a corner DA.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, are you going to pay for a guy better than him?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, in theory, you should be able to, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But will it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that they're going to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's only better if he's actually hitting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this, your mistakes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I mean, at this point, I mean, I think it's a worthy like fuller thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing before before we move on, like you know that if they trade for brewers, mats, diamond backs or orials, right, these guys are coming recommended from like your your core decision making group, right, like
[SPEAKER_02]: David Keller, who is running the international operation, but was very high up with the mats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if it's true that they want Mark Vento, it's like I bet you David Keller wants Mark.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's probably why that makes a hundred percent sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even think about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't mean that Keller's right, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's like gets his leaning on all these loot tenants, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like Josh Barfield,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it hasn't made the greatest recommendations from Arizona.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't seem like, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But like they have all these guys from all these teams.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Vince, come on now, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so so many.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, history now.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've seen way too many dumb players.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the center fielder.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, have you heard of Lloyd Hemenas?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's enough right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that guy tore his peck on the outfield wall hanging from it acting like he was dunking a basketball.
[SPEAKER_00]: So some might be dumb, but that's taking it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a hefty allegation right there.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Brad Montgomery gets promoted to the barrens today, per all of the sources.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The socks just hold the beatwriters, the group text.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to Birmingham.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your thoughts on that promotion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think it's aggressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't like hate it because they very clearly like have their own thresholds for like when they think guys have accomplished what they want them to accomplish.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, like, look, look at stats and be like he was really struggling and he's been pretty good of late.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, like I didn't think he would be in Winston that long personally.
[SPEAKER_02]: but then he struggled right so it was like okay well i don't i don't know so like look i'm not surprised that he's finishing the year and double because i kind of thought he would but he hasn't like necessarily clear the hurdle of dominating high a necessarily right so i don't know man i i mean it does set him up where if he's decent there like he's on the big league team early next year um you know but we're skipping ahead a little bit like
[SPEAKER_02]: curious to see him against double a pitching.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be wrong about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I personally am, uh, I was pretty shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wasn't shocked because it's the name, Brad Montgomery.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I understand that and it's one of those things where he's like, you know, one of the, one of the flagships of the, of the prospects right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but just watching watching the swing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm being very cautious about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't be shocked if he goes up there and he's striking out exactly the same rate, but not making as much impact.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll see.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was surprised.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, how did you feel about the Gonzalez one?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not as big a deal because he doesn't matter as much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they have to be like, Braden has to be a core member of their like team going forward, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of feel like with Jacob Gonzalez, it's like, okay, maybe the bad improves it Charlotte and like we'll see what happens because he's just kind of me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, now here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They might, I mean, they might do this again, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if they send Wilco to Winston,
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know man, like I might have the same react like I get like sinkers swim time and we trust like these guys make up and if they can but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you don't, you're gonna be sending draft guys straight to Winston.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like they took all these out, you know, like the out filters they did take, you know, the guy with the most upside Eli Brown.
[SPEAKER_02]: Twelfth round around a mercer is a wretched sophomore at Mercer.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was thinking Serta actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like Serta and then so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like that's fine, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's maybe not a prospect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's more of like an or guy, which is maybe rude to him, but I mean, luckily you were it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think both the the sixteenth and seventeenth like Caleb Freeman, he played it four different schools.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but the numbers are pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like if yeah, like if those two guys went to Winston,
[SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't be that shocking.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the two who could be more likely, low decent shelter, and like don't play outfield.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't, like really pertain to George.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like those guys should be heading out at some point here pretty soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, bring up the super chat here from Wolf Larson.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you believe in Thorpe, do you move Martin or vice versa?
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the same applies to Canon, all similar pitches.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the super chat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wolf, we appreciate you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your thoughts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think Adams is in that mix, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't move anybody yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, I think Davis Martin, like unless I got quite a bit for him, like there's no reason to move them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just keep them, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And you hope that he's better and thwart and based in Adams are ready to come back next year and Davis Martin's good, like then trade a man or trade can and then like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason like they need to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't think this deadline will be that impactful.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had the same talk last year right about the underwhelming socks trade and outside of stowers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like as anybody else making more of an impact than Miguel Vargas.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just those are the types of guys that get traded now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like nobody gets impact guys anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if that stuff's not on the table for Davis Martin, I don't know why you would trade it right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I thought there was an outside chance that he would be traded this year, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But I thought he'd put up, you know, potentially closer to an all-star type season like closer to like how Shane Smith was.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Martin's been just okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think there's a couple of relievers that are making a big impact.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, that's pretty much about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's only going to be, you know, noticed by by the teams that they're on or fantasy players.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be like one of the stories like Miguel Vargas where he's getting spots on MLB network talking about his swing change.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, you pay.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Jew break the Drew Baker trade.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's played pretty pretty okay and Charlotte actually I will say though will Robertson.
[SPEAKER_00]: As something that was looked oh, you know, like everybody looked at it is like it's who is this guy seem like a nothing trade.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dude is raken on the nights.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's night.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got triple and two doubles.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he might have gotten another hit while we were on here.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been hitting the ball over the place.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'll be back in the big leagues pretty soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like as soon as they trade now, filter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like they could trade multiple off filters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not off the table that like the socks trade their entire outfield.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's likely.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, any of those guys could get moved.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_00]: He actually, I mean, he looks, he looks good.
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks competent, you know, and hitting Charlotte's fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not there playing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're on the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're on the road.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in a park that's actually tougher to hit home runs at by by a, you know, a fairly considerable amount.
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's move away from that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got any.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got Haken Smith.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about here, and I almost, I almost spaced on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think one of the, one of the things that's not being talked about is the stuff that you and I kind of, and in our group check, go back and forth with because you're watching all these games.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I said some things about Haken Smith and Twitter that were like perceived as negative and people are like crucifying me, you know, like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: How dare you, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think questions like need to be asked here like look I still think he's going to be good like as you know does it look not great like with the rest of the draft class yeah it doesn't look great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um and like if you just like look at Hagen Smith numbers and you want to wave away the walks because like oh yeah it'll improve like that's fine he's walking guys like that's fine but like his stuff's not as good it's just not.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like, as it magically gonna get good again, because, like, nobody hits him.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's still true.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's sixty what two k's and forty innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's nuts.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a ton of walks.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, when he was bad, like, guys, he was throwing three innings every week.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, ninety three to ninety five with the fastball.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, like, not gonna work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know if this is and we had this we had this talk as well is that you know we thought that possibly that it was a velocity scale back by design but you know like my thought on that whole thing was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Part of his his allures that he was hitting a hundred miles an hour and living ninety seven and now you've got a guy that's living ninety three and a half miles an hour and hitting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Touching like ninety five and a half that's just that's not that's not what you paid for.
[SPEAKER_00]: No with that pick in the draft.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not what you passed on all these bats.
[SPEAKER_02]: for this guy, you know, for the like, like, no assurance was never that guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's like, oh, he's throwing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not like, get up through a high ninety.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, that's just like, not what he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this guy was, and people keep calling him, call, he's calling us or not, and call us or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was like, ninety-nine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are we talking about here?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, so look, he could finish the year and like, be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like next year, all of a sudden, like he looks, they can't get to what they got and everything's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but like that's not what's happening right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has like, forty in-expatched.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he goes out and throws three point two innings and walks two guys and strikes out six guys and like like I think through seventy two pitches the other night, seventy five pitches, which is better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he was just ninety five pretty consistently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that's better, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: The socks do not seem concerned.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, at least publicly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just, you know, idiot fan on the internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like it is what it is, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't seem worried.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who am I to not trust them?
[SPEAKER_02]: But the Higginsmith thing is weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the whole season has been very strange.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And
[SPEAKER_00]: like one of one of the other things is that you know with the way that they're limiting innings in the miners right now like not what I don't think I think there's been like one picture that's thrown six innings in the last since the all-star break that's a lot of that's a lot of yeah it's a lot of innings to cover well I know it is like a banister thing too like with the big league that he doesn't like shutting pictures down but like they'll go for three or four innings
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to see that with Burke and with Canon and with Shane Smith and with all these guys, which is, you know, why you have a no a center guard.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like when you get good, like if somebody's going to be able to throw seven innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that is that is that is that thing, like is that, or, you know, they're just going to have like a bullpen parade where like somebody's inevitably bad, you know, it just doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there were some some comments here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wolf asked about the French kid like my thighs like only a pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So his stuff is really nasty.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's already twenty two.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like we we like had a conversation in our group chat to just about like what he is going forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they let him start, but I think it's another one of these scenarios where like he's already going to be twenty three on an innings limit and I don't know how many innings it legit is, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So like if he's this nasty, do you fast track him in a really for all to get him into the big leagues and then figure it out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really nasty though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to bring this up here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, Dubman says give Haygan Smith the Grant Taylor treatment and work them out of the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem with that is, is that Grant Taylor was hitting like, ninety eight consistently.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Out of the, as a starter, and they knew that he had the extra in the tank.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they didn't, I don't know if they think Haygan has that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and, and the other thing with with Taylor is like, like, I think Taylor was going to max out of like, eighty summonings regardless this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's in the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can he's a pitch man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that dude is that dude's gonna start for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he needs innings and he's at like forty something right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was also a question from baseball here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like is he a fall lead candidate?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think I hope so because he doesn't have enough innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: They gotta find a way to get him innings.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, you know, pitchers like as highly regarded as him.
[SPEAKER_02]: don't typically go to the fall week.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I could see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then test if he's hurt.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they button pitch injured.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's, uh, I don't know if not.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, it's just been weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the handling of this whole thing has been extremely bizarre.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that we're sitting here, you know, worried about his velocity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a year into his tenure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like ten months into his tenure, we were already worried about his velocity and one like what the heck the deal was.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, especially considering that the guy that they were talking about drafting just got bumped to the number one prospect in the top one hundred in kind of Griffin who supposedly they had talked to a lot and already had a deal in place if they took him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's this if this doesn't work out and ends up this badly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if in my opinion, if Hagen Smith ends up as a as a reliever and he's not like the best reliever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: like I this is quite possibly the worst draft pick that they've ever made.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because of like what they gave up like what they didn't do like instead, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just kind of thought this dude right now like we'd be talking about like whether he should be in the big leagues or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I just thought he was going to coast in double way and he didn't hasn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that this is just a planned thing here where they're just like, hey, just go out and get your earnings.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't really care how hard you're throwing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't really care about any of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just go ahead and live it like ninety percent and don't, you know, don't try and press it at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, then that is what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or it would be great if somebody would like, you know, report that or like tell us that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell like send me a tax message and tell me that or James Figan or Merck or somebody like, hey, this is what's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then people wouldn't like be freaking out about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, especially after seeing the Connor Griffin thing, it makes it that much worse for everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got the top one, our top, our top thirty is coming out at the mid, our mid season rerank.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should say is coming out here shortly.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you, do you have anything that you want to mention?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, baseball America updated theirs pipeline updated theirs where they didn't put the draft picks in, which, you know, they already have the blurbs, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think we'll ask Kales about that this week, just like why not just throw those guys in.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not upset, but like, I don't know, I just like think it makes sense to wait until after the trade deadline, even if that means like we're a little bit late.
[SPEAKER_02]: They put Christian opera and Hannah McDougall in their top ten.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we were going to do the same thing, but I kind of thought we were going to be the only ones that did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm kind of mad at Jim Cales right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: He beat us to the punch on those two days.
[SPEAKER_02]: But no, I mean, look, if like basically everybody that
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's graduated other than Colson.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Colson will still be on the list.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, plus break Colson, Braden, Schultz, Smith, Bonamer, you know, and then you'll have Carlson and Foski.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, after those guys, like, man, it's Tanermik Dugel and Connor and Christian opera right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the two highest upside dudes.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think you're a little bit safer like Mason Adams doesn't deserve to be penalized just because of a Tommy John, so I think he kind of belongs in there too and some publications like Wolko and some don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I mean, it just depends on how risk-avers you are, but yeah, I mean, that's kind of those are the guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's some really interesting dudes in Arizona and the DSL that are extremely hard to rank because you just like don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: how real the numbers are and like you can get data and see who's good and who's that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think our list is going to be quite a bit different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like at the back end, we think conversations about like how do we rank these starters who like the White Talks have basically said it really first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how valuable is Hyrule eerie art now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think, you know, like I think Hyrule eerie art can help their next big league team or their next good big league team.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it doesn't mean that like I'm going to rank him in the top fifteen of a top three prospect list.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the the reliever's thing is going to be it's going to change quite a bit I think you know you're mad at MLB pipeline for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm mad at baseball America because I'm not the only person who's going to put Drew Thorpe in my list.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so basically rookie status is what we use.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm going to be pipeline uses for for starting pictures.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hundred and thirty or sorry starting pictures.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's for pictures in general.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fifty innings pitched.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hundred and thirty at bats for position players or it's forty five.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was before it was forty five non-September days active.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's a little bit different now that there's not all these like like September call ups anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, we use the forty five days active.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, the grand Taylor's off feels off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like so that's the thing with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, with Thorpe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thorpe doesn't have fifty and it's pitched.
[SPEAKER_02]: So baseball America leaves him on their list.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's forty five days active.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not so if he were to come back next year and he were the best pitcher in the American league, he can't win rookie of the year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So in my opinion, like he shouldn't be on these lists because of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: But baseball America.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they just don't want to do the math on all the guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, you figure after this long, somebody would have done the math.
[SPEAKER_00]: Blank name.
[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't done the list yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ten to twenty probably as my guess, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a eleven to twenty in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you haven't, you don't have to worry about me forgetting about Mason Adams.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guarantee.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, one of the, so I do think the biggest looking at the pipeline list.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them's glaring to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this isn't a guy that you and I really pound at the table for, but there's one that's really far down on their list.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be pretty high on.
[SPEAKER_02]: who has been really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of things and they also put what's his name, dude from, was it the ACL?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Alcala.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Alcala.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he was, yeah, so he was like, and he's got seven homers in the ACL, but it's like numbers other than that, I'm very good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think if you're going to do that, if you're going to do that, put Christian Gonzalez on the list.
[SPEAKER_02]: who was good in the DSL last year, who was amazing in the DSL this year, and has been pretty good in Arizona.
[SPEAKER_02]: My guy put him on first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, James.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Sam Antonachi in the preseason mean in like
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you rank him?
[SPEAKER_00]: I ranked.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I ranked him, but it was like twenty seven or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and Dylan and Elijah both had him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like in their top twenty, Dylan had a really high, which is why he was like on the back end of our list to begin with.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he came out this year and he's been pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that I don't I mean, he's right in that like eleven to fifteen discussion right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has to be with what he's done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, uh,
[SPEAKER_00]: I liked him last year from what I saw them, but I wanted to see it some more, and I also wanted to see it the next level.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, he's been pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bring this up from Dove Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the kind of stuff that I've been getting on Twitter, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I don't think Jacob Gonzalez is good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I'm not giving him a pass.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think he's important.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hagan Smith has to be awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you passed on Connor Griffin, JJ Weatherhold, and like, I didn't want Cags, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: But Cags.
[SPEAKER_02]: None of us sat here on draft night, like, pounding the table for Cam Smith.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's also in the big leagues and is pretty good, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's four guys that you picked him over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he has to be awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jacob Gonzalez was a terrible pick that night it was made.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was a money set.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a three point nine million at fifteen overall and they used the savings to get George Wolko, Matthias Lacone and opera, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So has worked out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not even close to the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not getting a pass.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just not important enough to care about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have anything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we signed all twenty of our draft picks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that whole thing is cataloged in it's pinned on our on our ex account at future stocks.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find the article that's got all the all the bonuses and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: All of them got assigned to the ACL except for.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the type of guy who can go right to like Winston though, because it's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go throw your submarine fastballs like at these high guys like yeah, so a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so I wrote a manifesto for anybody that hasn't read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like four thousand words and what I always say is that you know, it would have been shorter if I had more time, but
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, there's some takeaways in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like they, I've talked to some white stock scouts and look, a lot of people don't care about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe some of the people who are like in our chat do.
[SPEAKER_02]: They think the last two years is like the most synergy that they've ever had just that they really feel connected like among the departments, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like R and D's helping them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They, and this is weird because like Chris gets was in charge of PD before.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like the amateur scouts really think that like they're working really well with the player development staff like maybe like for the first time like which isn't great you know and I don't know what that says about like leadership I mean Chris gets gets praised for this plan about up the middle guys and you know exactly what he wants and you know
[SPEAKER_02]: Why did you take a left hand a picture of the fifth overall pick is usually what I asked like after these things are said to me, but Yeah, I'm in this you know the scouting department's happy everybody likes their draft after it's made It's a lot of the middle players It's bad such they needed obviously, which I think is good I think it's a good mix of like upside and safety
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it didn't like force pitching picks if they didn't think the class was that good, which I think was positive.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that the strategy was was pretty well executed all things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Consider now what, you know, like whether or not, you know, the kids end up being anything at all, you know, that's completely, I don't see, you know, but I mean at face value, everything looks like pretty solid.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm pretty happy with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think Foski, you know, is like a bottom or level prospect, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So if he takes off similarly, you know, Billy Carlson's obviously better than that with higher expectations than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, even when Montgomery graduates here, the Sox should have six.
[SPEAKER_02]: top one hundred prospects right or do they they'd have five because I feel like they'll have braiden Carlson and bonamer and then the two lefty so they'll have five for sure um still which in look it's not to be all in all the top one hundred prospects obviously but it's nice to delay have some more so
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be interesting in the immediate just to see where some of these guys go.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see how many of them end up at Winston.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's it's seven bats from the college side that I'll need to like go play somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: We won't see the high schoolers.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's nine pictures who I'll probably go somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: And while I think there's a couple of starter profiles, you know, you know, the end of the season, they just like throw these guys like a couple innings or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: So a couple of the guys though that they have, blame Wayne to the eighth round or out of Ohio State, he got slot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we did a draft recap, but we didn't talk about the money at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: He got slot in the eighth round.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Gabe Davis and the fifth round was over.
[SPEAKER_02]: He got five hundred and ninety K, which says they're pretty
[SPEAKER_02]: serious about him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So those guys could both be starters.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were both hurt this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I feel like they could go out and start because they have, you know, it's not like they threw a full college season.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were, they were both injured.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so if we saw them, that would be interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other guys, I think, um, I think Max Banks from Washington is probably a starter, but I think the other guys are all probably relievers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, and then like a like a caveman Parker of TCU.
[SPEAKER_02]: He got a Winston.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's been four years at TCU.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think him and the the closer was it Southern Mississippi.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like though like there's no reason for those guys to pitch in this version of can Apple us like in low way right now with a bunch of DSL guys down there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin asked if there's any dark horse guys in the system thinking for opening day twenty twenty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no, I mean, a reliever maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's dynamic due to a dark horse.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd go him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, I guess because he wasn't on any, I mean, he was on my radar.
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't even rank it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, like I've always liked the guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be a dark horse for me like I would after the year that he's had.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reasons to not at least give him a shot to possibly do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: How about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: How about Zach Franklin?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I think that could work too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shane Murphy's a good call James.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's in the big leagues like at the start of next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if he's like an up and down guy filling in making starts or like they just like put him in the bullpen because he's good like a Shane Murphy's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good call.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Uncle Ted says Riku.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean that that is the true essence right here of a dark horse candidate because he's not somebody that you would expect to see, but thing is is that he just does things.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was like, Duke, what's his face?
[SPEAKER_00]: Duke Ellis.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden, like, Riku is up just because, like, they think it's, this is like this novelty act.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, you're still a base.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, Duke Ellis, he was, I mean, he did things for the Yankees.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they enjoyed having him around because they had one of the guys that could hit, but they didn't have guys that could run.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Duke Ellis is like, if the league let you keep twenty eight guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd be in the big leagues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's just hard to do it with a twenty six man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you just need that players union willing to work hard to try and get those extra roster spaces.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the owner seem to be fighting so much against everything a lot more difficult.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to try this from Jamie?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's tough.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about I ask opening day twenty twenty seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who are your five starters?
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: No idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shots.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hagen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe who knows at this point?
[SPEAKER_00]: Johnny Cannon.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say Tanorek Dugel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I could see you go and I could also see you go and Mason add up, honestly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would think he would be a certainly a guy as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: James Hesterman says Martin Perez.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, cheese.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, he's, it sounds like he's going to like make starts in September.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what he says.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says he says he says he'll be ready.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just going to come back and join a rotation with Noah Cinderguard, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think anybody does anybody want Aaron Savali?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or is he on the whites arts eating innings?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that I think that that he's probably eating innings because my my thought is is that I think a team would want a Savali.
[SPEAKER_00]: at the beginning of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as the years coming to a close here, they either need a guy who's a stud or or they want to pitch their young guys and see what they've got most of the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you feel like it would be like a contender.
[SPEAKER_02]: where they want to like rest some of their starters and they just have like civilly, but I mean he like refused to go to the bullpen for the brewers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if he's not going to pitch out of the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I feel like I don't know he's pretty good though against the cops.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean when his current house good he looks pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean he looked really he looked really good today.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean I think that he's a decent pitcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know at this point in the season.
[SPEAKER_00]: if he's going to, I mean, somebody might, you know, I see the comments in the, in the chat that somebody would take him, I don't doubt that somebody would take him.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, I guess if you're just, if you just want to get rid of him, how much of the stock, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how much of the stock's going to value him being able to eat any.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because they have a bunch of young guys that haven't thrown a ton of innings, maybe they value him a little bit more in that aspect.
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, you know, you got guys that'll come out and take a couple of innings like Wicklman was a starter at the beginning of the year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you know that he can handle two, three innings if he needs to.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they've got a bunch of guys like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good question.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of feel like if I had to bet I bet he's still here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if they want to just save the money,
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like somebody can waver claim them in September.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't make a trade.
[SPEAKER_02]: But somebody could pick them up and then you like clear the rest of the money or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It should be an interesting four days, man, because it's going to be weird like how many guys they trade.
[SPEAKER_02]: When does it start happening?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how much impact?
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet it's a lot on Thursday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like, remember last year it was like all the sudden Tanner banks was traded and then all that it does just, these random deals, like they, they, you know, they sent Paul D. Young somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I kind of feel like that's there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be for like Slater, Alta Villa, some of these guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like oh yeah, we just traded this guy for this person that's like never really can a matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of Tanner Binks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dark.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Candidate from January.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: As the utility guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: could be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think they have so many of those.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's one thing that they've always been good at producing is utility guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have an entire team of utility guys and then a couple guys who actually are specialists.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has like one of my trash sleepers is that twelfth rounder that Eli Brown of Mercer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think he's going to be exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: He plays centerfield profile lead off type.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really remind me of Brooks Baldwin, but it does in the sense that like the dudes is just like going to be good and then all the sudden and triple A and you're like, hey, like let's give this guy a shot type of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a wretched sophomore.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a hundred and seventy five k which is usually meaningful.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's, you know, of the college guys that aren't those first two guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing that was interesting with that, I'm glad I just remembered this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anthony DePino, I think a lot of us like looked at that pic and they were like, oh, is a senior sign, like a, you're hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his and his like numbers are ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he can play third and well, like he played first.
[SPEAKER_02]: He might be for he might be first base only and that'll hurt him obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to hit though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's going to be like, if you follow Ian's like future socks highlights and full disclosure guys, that's like not me sharing highlights.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's Ian.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we might see a lot of Anthony Dupino like just hitting and can't canapolis soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he might end up being, you know, Jake Burger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean he's like at worst.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like a Ryan Galini type and Galini's going to be like a fringe like potential possible bigleaker like I don't know that it's impact, but I mean he's at Birmingham now right if he goes to Charlotte and he's like an up and down quarterback.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wouldn't be that surprise.
[SPEAKER_02]: They love the, the socks go out to love the piano.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I put some of that in the, in the article, just like some of his, like he was playing, they were watching him play in like collegiate college summer weeks and just raking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uncle's Ted says, how about we get monsters like Frank Thomas one through nine and just hit nukes if you can find nine Hall of Famers.
[SPEAKER_00]: But just put them out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the most underrated thing here is the Uncle Ted's talking about a right-handed hitter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, maybe the greatest one of all time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a, but it is, but it's a righty Uncle Ted.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, what are we doing here?
[SPEAKER_02]: You were uncle Ted was also in the comments like trying to like say to the whites actually trade for recent draft picks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I feel like I feel like I've yeah, but guys that were just taken I think can be traded at like the winter meetings, right, but not yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it has to be November.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so be after the season after the actual seasons after the world series.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we can't get the burgers to trade us Andrew Fisher like two weeks after the drafted it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's based.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we can get uh, Jorangel of St.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was taken last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the switch pitcher.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is a switch pitcher.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they I don't know if they can be can they map be player to players to be named later.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can do it as, yeah, but I mean, you can do them as players to be named later, but it, it, that's a, that's a tough one to work out generally.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this, we got this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I have a, don't say this on air.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't want to give away trade secrets.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be out of business here in five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if somebody wants to help, that's sent in a DM.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let me think here is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did we, yeah, did we handle everything?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like there's lots of big league stuff that's been interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: We try to do the prospect thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's lots of promotions, obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Elijah, I don't know if Elijah and Dylan are recording this week, but they'll, you know, they'll handle all of the promotions.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if there's any trades, I might pop on at some point later this week after Carlos, if there's trades.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of guys were cut loose this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of being which baseball mentioned, which
[SPEAKER_00]: got me thinking here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so everybody was wondering what happened to Anthony who be to you in a tall.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, he got assigned to the ACL.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have, he didn't pitch in any games.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no idea what happened there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just know that he got cut loose this week and he's been released.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm not entirely sure what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, also Peyton, Paulette, good call Kevin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to think, I know Sean Gooseenberg was let go from the barrens a little while ago, and Nick Padkel as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nick Padkel actually signed right up the street from me here with the Seanberg boomers.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll probably go over and pay tribute to him and thank him for his important at that during the Barrens Championship run last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a couple of guys that got cut loose.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mikey, Mikey Kane got cut loose from the ballers this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: As did, uh, there was somebody else who my, uh, who my forgetting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was, uh, was there a picture?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Dominican Summer League type guy picture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, man, many, many of the lows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, many of the lows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like Nick, Bob Cole's going to dominate the frontier league, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: You would think so I looked at I actually looked at I looked at the boomers roster and there's a couple of guys that have done some things, but then I looked at King counties King County coogers same like I don't think I don't know if they're in the same American Association or what but like I don't think there was a guy there was a guy
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex McGarry, who was on the lookout for years and was like super annoying against the barrens and he's on the coogers.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like a bunch of those guys over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not just like your failed white tax guys who are playing out at Rosemount, you know, they had like, yeah, one of them and some of these guys for a while, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, last year, the cane county coogers had Tommy Somer, the former Baron's pitcher who started off really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: In like twenty twenty three or whatever, and then he just kind of fell off after the All-Star Break and then you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the socks sign a lot of guys out of the independence too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they do like a Caleb Sophie.
[SPEAKER_00]: who is pitching in, canapolis right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, anyway, I could go on all night about that, about that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's, uh, I've got that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nip that in the bud.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, thanks guys for coming and hanging out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you have a problem with me walking us out here.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, thank you.
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