WEBVTT 00:00.131 --> 00:01.292 [SPEAKER_01]: Episode one, ninety. 00:01.692 --> 00:04.413 [SPEAKER_01]: Today we recap what's happening down on the farm. 00:04.933 --> 00:11.476 [SPEAKER_01]: Sit down with a newest member of the Pirates organization and current shortstop for the Indianapolis Indians, Cam Devaney. 00:12.016 --> 00:16.217 [SPEAKER_01]: You're listening to the Bucco Banner podcast brought to you by the Just Baseball Media Network. 00:16.838 --> 00:17.398 [SPEAKER_01]: You're the music. 00:21.843 --> 00:38.193 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me make cause I like the way it tastes Ben Seach has the price in it let me run the base Yeah my time is like my money cause I can't afford the waste Oh wifey is a lawyer take my day to my dates or to stick by the plate to Nick Cates after Cates from my race and my pace cleared the grass 00:39.660 --> 00:42.001 [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome back to another episode of Down on the Farm. 00:42.041 --> 00:43.742 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm really excited for today's episode. 00:43.762 --> 00:45.082 [SPEAKER_04]: We're just off the All-Star Break. 00:45.102 --> 00:50.565 [SPEAKER_04]: They played a weekend in game, so not too much to talk about in terms of the game, recaps about how to each affiliate. 00:51.165 --> 00:56.067 [SPEAKER_04]: But we've got the newest member of the Pirates Organization, joining us on short notice. 00:56.187 --> 01:02.490 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm excited to chop it up with Cam and see what it's been like his first weekend with the Indians in the Indianapolis. 01:03.234 --> 01:10.198 [SPEAKER_01]: Before we get into it, shout out to our partners over at rhythm, sports betting is hard enough as it is. 01:10.438 --> 01:16.261 [SPEAKER_01]: Baseball, almost impossible, but fear no more rhythm is going to make it simple for you. 01:16.762 --> 01:22.885 [SPEAKER_01]: No coding, no spreadsheets, just a clean, easy to use interface that shows you what you need to make educated bets. 01:23.145 --> 01:27.628 [SPEAKER_01]: Take the 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[SPEAKER_01]: On Bucco Banner, I'm excited to chop it up with Cam. 02:09.112 --> 02:10.414 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited about that trade. 02:10.454 --> 02:12.797 [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about it on the Big League show before. 02:13.741 --> 02:15.181 [SPEAKER_01]: great return for Adam Frazier. 02:15.221 --> 02:24.444 [SPEAKER_01]: I was doing some research today and I'm listening to some of the radio jockies from Kansas City discuss the candidate for Adam Frazier trade. 02:24.864 --> 02:25.684 [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty upset about it. 02:26.765 --> 02:27.065 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 02:27.885 --> 02:32.366 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because like the royals are not necessarily the ale centros. 02:32.686 --> 02:37.728 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe a little bit stronger than it has been in years past in terms of the tigers really elevating and 02:38.477 --> 02:41.400 [SPEAKER_04]: The gardens are always in the mix, twins are always in the mix and the royals. 02:41.420 --> 02:43.882 [SPEAKER_04]: Like it seems like there's a bunch of teams there in the middle. 02:45.303 --> 03:01.196 [SPEAKER_04]: So do you get rid of a guy like that that could be a potential bench bat and provide a spark offensively, even though he's blocked by Bobby Witt, when you have a team that is struggling offensively at the big league level for a vet that's a rental. 03:03.158 --> 03:05.060 [SPEAKER_04]: It was an interesting trade for the Kansas City, 03:05.820 --> 03:08.784 [SPEAKER_04]: perspective, but I'm pretty happy about it. 03:08.804 --> 03:10.426 [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to look at it from the Paris perspective. 03:10.486 --> 03:13.830 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm pretty happy about it because this is probably going to be our short stuff for the last two months this season. 03:14.571 --> 03:14.811 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 03:15.492 --> 03:17.574 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll discuss it more and upcoming episodes. 03:17.594 --> 03:20.778 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to have Noah on the show to discuss potential trades, but 03:21.733 --> 03:25.718 [SPEAKER_01]: All things look to IKF getting moved almost a hundred percent at this point. 03:25.858 --> 03:37.092 [SPEAKER_01]: If we were to bet using rhythm, I think that power trend, the little lightning bolt will be right next to it because it's most likely going to happen, but we're going to be joined by cam later on in the show. 03:37.112 --> 03:40.376 [SPEAKER_01]: It's about what are some headlines this week that are happening on in the farm. 03:41.197 --> 03:42.738 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let me quickly go through them. 03:42.778 --> 03:44.980 [SPEAKER_04]: Malcolm Nunez was placed in the seven-day aisle. 03:45.000 --> 03:47.122 [SPEAKER_04]: He's been with Triple A in the last couple years. 03:47.402 --> 03:49.244 [SPEAKER_04]: He actually just came back from the entry. 03:49.264 --> 03:56.770 [SPEAKER_04]: So he's back on a hunter for Toto in Abraham Gutierrez, where transfer to the sixty-day aisles. 03:57.430 --> 03:59.791 [SPEAKER_04]: So some bummer news there. 04:00.551 --> 04:04.213 [SPEAKER_04]: Saturday, parts promote pitching prospect, Randall Navarro to brain. 04:04.273 --> 04:06.874 [SPEAKER_04]: And we talked about him a little bit a couple episodes ago. 04:06.914 --> 04:14.037 [SPEAKER_04]: He's a hard throwing lefty at a two, eighty-one ERA and forty-seven keys and twenty-five and two-thirds innings pitched at the complex. 04:15.017 --> 04:17.979 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a matter of the control and will he develop their pitch. 04:18.079 --> 04:21.682 [SPEAKER_04]: We'll get into the game and how it went for him later on. 04:22.283 --> 04:23.724 [SPEAKER_04]: Tony Blanco Jr. 04:23.804 --> 04:25.886 [SPEAKER_04]: was activated by the brain tumerotters. 04:25.906 --> 04:27.527 [SPEAKER_04]: He's someone who has a play-out this year. 04:28.448 --> 04:33.512 [SPEAKER_04]: Excited to see him in game action for that moroders team and then lastly today. 04:34.232 --> 04:52.417 [SPEAKER_04]: The first draft pick signed, yet Murph Gray, was there what third pick, third or fourth, from Fresno State signed Jack Anchor, his teammate at Fresno State, a pitcher with six round pick signed as well, and a Matt King, the tenth round pick out of Arizona State, the short stop, a pretty good season offensively. 04:53.177 --> 04:53.938 [SPEAKER_04]: for the sun devils. 04:54.118 --> 04:56.801 [SPEAKER_04]: They sign in their present at PNC Park for the game today. 04:56.901 --> 05:01.186 [SPEAKER_04]: So after we record, we're going to be heading over to see schemes versus flarity. 05:01.206 --> 05:01.987 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm excited to see that. 05:02.067 --> 05:06.612 [SPEAKER_04]: But good to see some guys put in a pen to paper and get ready for my late ball. 05:07.613 --> 05:08.193 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. 05:08.233 --> 05:13.995 [SPEAKER_01]: And all things point to Seth Hernandez signing sooner rather than later. 05:14.055 --> 05:15.475 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll keep you updated on that. 05:15.495 --> 05:17.035 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get into Indianapolis. 05:17.356 --> 05:18.616 [SPEAKER_01]: They were at the Nashville. 05:18.676 --> 05:21.377 [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds the brewer's AAA affiliate. 05:21.737 --> 05:22.617 [SPEAKER_01]: Indianapolis right now. 05:22.677 --> 05:25.218 [SPEAKER_01]: Fifty six and thirty nine coming out from the break. 05:25.258 --> 05:27.398 [SPEAKER_01]: Billy Coke went three for twelve on the week with a home run. 05:27.738 --> 05:30.679 [SPEAKER_01]: Nick York for eleven with two strikeouts and then cam to Vani. 05:31.159 --> 05:37.841 [SPEAKER_01]: and his first in with the Indians two for seven with a walk in two cases averages at two seventy three right now. 05:38.201 --> 05:47.943 [SPEAKER_01]: Bubba Chandler had a couple of weeks there where he looked back to normal Friday not so hot three and two thirds eight hits five earned two walks four case two home runs. 05:49.384 --> 05:50.964 [SPEAKER_01]: I still think we see Bubba soon. 05:52.304 --> 05:59.046 [SPEAKER_01]: After the trade deadline comes and goes you're going to see some names being moved potentially Andrew Heaney, Mitch Keller, 06:01.010 --> 06:07.952 [SPEAKER_04]: I said it today and not to enter, but I'll let you continue here with the Indianapolis recaps, but Obieto apparently had a walk today at PNC. 06:08.232 --> 06:09.972 [SPEAKER_04]: Turns out he's just there throwing a side. 06:10.812 --> 06:12.132 [SPEAKER_04]: Altuna has an off day. 06:12.733 --> 06:21.855 [SPEAKER_04]: He's only had like seven and a third innings pitched and rehab, so expect for him to get to Indianapolis, but he's a guy that we're probably going to see too, so him, Baba, maybe Barko later on, who knows. 06:22.295 --> 06:23.515 [SPEAKER_04]: There's definitely some moves coming here. 06:24.123 --> 06:48.137 [SPEAKER_01]: Well speaking of Barco and Saturday, he went two and two thirds, four hits, four earned two walks, two case, Burrucky, one and two thirds, no hits, three strikeouts, Holderman had the loss on the day, one inning, one hit, two earned, one walk, one K, he's got a nine ERA right now, Scott and Triple A. Sunday, Billy Cook went three for five with his Finn home run on the year, had an RBI, he has twelve stolen bags, which brings us two out tuna. 06:49.299 --> 06:53.042 [SPEAKER_04]: Altuna played the Akron Robert Ducks at home, W.A. 06:53.483 --> 06:55.705 [SPEAKER_04]: Affiliate to the Cleveland Guardians. 06:55.745 --> 06:57.066 [SPEAKER_04]: They set at forty-three and forty-six. 06:57.086 --> 07:00.429 [SPEAKER_04]: They have this serious Travis Bazana made his return after being in the I.O. 07:00.449 --> 07:02.691 [SPEAKER_04]: for a while, former overall pick. 07:03.171 --> 07:09.376 [SPEAKER_04]: Tomorrow went three for nine this week with a double four walks, three stolen bases, averages around two forty-nine. 07:10.177 --> 07:15.459 [SPEAKER_04]: Mitch Jeb went four for eleven, a double an RBI and two stolen bases. 07:16.580 --> 07:20.042 [SPEAKER_04]: As Merlin Valdez, over six, one walked to K's small sample sizes. 07:20.082 --> 07:24.784 [SPEAKER_04]: We can, for him, and Omar Alfonso won for seven within RBI and four K's Friday. 07:24.804 --> 07:27.465 [SPEAKER_04]: We had Ovieto making his first double A stand. 07:27.525 --> 07:27.885 [SPEAKER_04]: Did well. 07:27.925 --> 07:30.787 [SPEAKER_04]: Three and a third, three hits, one earned no walks, three K's. 07:31.367 --> 07:32.367 [SPEAKER_04]: Love the no walks. 07:32.727 --> 07:37.730 [SPEAKER_04]: He slowly building that workload back up, Alessandro Erkelani. 07:38.791 --> 07:40.253 [SPEAKER_04]: Someone that we might have on here soon. 07:41.154 --> 07:42.977 [SPEAKER_04]: Been in discussions with him excited to talk him. 07:43.017 --> 07:48.665 [SPEAKER_04]: But three and two thirds one hit no hern three walks three k's got three sixty one ERA in Altuna. 07:49.593 --> 07:52.534 [SPEAKER_04]: Antoine Kelly made his what fourth or fifth start with Latuna. 07:52.574 --> 08:00.295 [SPEAKER_04]: He still has been solid five itnings two hits two earned two walks four cases a one seven seven year array. 08:00.536 --> 08:04.336 [SPEAKER_04]: Tomorrow one for three with a double his fourteen stone bag of the year. 08:04.877 --> 08:07.237 [SPEAKER_04]: And then Sunday, Wilbur, to tell had another rough out. 08:07.297 --> 08:11.778 [SPEAKER_04]: And one two thirds three hits five earned one walk one K that ERA is now over five. 08:12.638 --> 08:14.019 [SPEAKER_04]: That is it for Latuna this week. 08:14.039 --> 08:15.019 [SPEAKER_01]: And what happened in Greensboro? 08:15.938 --> 08:22.844 [SPEAKER_01]: At the Winston Salem dash, the high A affiliate for the White Sox Greensboro continues to stay hot, sixty two and twenty seven. 08:23.424 --> 08:42.701 [SPEAKER_01]: Javier, Rebus went over nine on the week, a corner of Griffin one for five with a walk and one strike out and then will Taylor two for nine with two runs, a home run in three RBI's Friday, Christian Curtis five innings four hits two earned one walk four case, paying stumb up one inning no hits two walks one K and then will Taylor one for three with his fourth home run. 08:43.181 --> 08:46.603 [SPEAKER_01]: Three RBIs all friends this show on Friday. 08:46.683 --> 08:59.510 [SPEAKER_01]: Highlighted and then Sunday Dominic Parachi four innings one hit no earn one walk one K and then kind of go goto a name we haven't mentioned in a while had another home run on the year eleven's 09:00.003 --> 09:09.594 [SPEAKER_01]: with one RBI Sunday, Connor Weakre, four and one third, five hits, three earned, one walk, five gays, and then we'll tailor again one for three with a triple. 09:10.054 --> 09:12.317 [SPEAKER_01]: That takes us to Brain Can Scott. 09:13.078 --> 09:18.484 [SPEAKER_04]: Brain tonight, I love talking about this team, even though the record's forty-two and forty-seven right now that just screams upside. 09:18.944 --> 09:19.925 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, a lot of young 09:21.467 --> 09:32.150 [SPEAKER_04]: Upside talent here in Braint and they were in Jupiter across the state playing the hammerheads the low-way affiliate of the marlins white Sanford went four for fourteen with four k's two stolen bases. 09:32.970 --> 09:40.192 [SPEAKER_04]: Your Donny Day Los Santos five for fourteen a double five RBI's two stolen bags twenty block of junior but one for three with an RBI. 09:40.979 --> 09:49.343 [SPEAKER_04]: his first three of bats with affiliate ball this year, and then Edward Fortunetino, three for nine, double three RBIs, four walks, four storm bases. 09:50.004 --> 10:01.310 [SPEAKER_04]: So Fortunetino continues to stay hot, and into the game's Fridays and underneath, two and a third, three hits, one or four walks, two k's at the pitch count, still pretty low or they're limiting him, 10:02.190 --> 10:03.151 [SPEAKER_04]: How long he can go? 10:03.652 --> 10:06.134 [SPEAKER_04]: David Matoma did you just struggle a little bit? 10:06.314 --> 10:09.037 [SPEAKER_04]: One inning no hits but one earned on three walks. 10:09.417 --> 10:10.778 [SPEAKER_04]: Here is at force seventy eight. 10:11.619 --> 10:19.326 [SPEAKER_04]: Richard Ramirez has been a pretty good offensive catcher since getting caught up from the complex three for four with two RBIs as average as at three fifteen. 10:20.407 --> 10:23.249 [SPEAKER_04]: Saturday, Raynald Navarro, the control issues came in. 10:23.289 --> 10:24.750 [SPEAKER_04]: This is his brain to debut. 10:25.230 --> 10:31.333 [SPEAKER_04]: Two-thirds of an inning no hit to earn four walks one K. I'm excited to see him throw. 10:31.614 --> 10:33.975 [SPEAKER_04]: It's developing a third pitch and working on the control. 10:33.995 --> 10:38.338 [SPEAKER_04]: He's still a young arm and he throws really hard from the left side. 10:39.350 --> 10:40.311 [SPEAKER_04]: Tony Blanca, Jr. 10:40.351 --> 10:41.172 [SPEAKER_04]: made his debut. 10:41.212 --> 10:48.261 [SPEAKER_04]: He de-aged and hit clean up one for three with an RBI that the RBI was a hundred twelve point four mile an hour sack fly. 10:48.481 --> 10:51.465 [SPEAKER_04]: The exit vealos are real for Tony Blanca. 10:51.485 --> 10:52.266 [SPEAKER_04]: We've seen him in person. 10:52.306 --> 10:54.068 [SPEAKER_04]: He's a humongous human being. 10:55.490 --> 11:02.534 [SPEAKER_04]: You're done at Elisanto's, two for four with an RBI, his thirty six stolen bag, this guy's going to still fifty bags, it's a good way to see her, which is kind of nuts. 11:02.935 --> 11:05.796 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like every box score has Elisanto's in the stolen base column. 11:06.497 --> 11:18.644 [SPEAKER_04]: And in Sunday, Florentino, two for three with two RBI's, two stolen bags, he's got sixteen, and it feels like he got caught up last week, and then Sam for two for five with his eighteenth stolen bag, that is it for the Marauders Adam. 11:19.745 --> 11:23.287 [SPEAKER_01]: Not gonna have a minor league player of the week, simply because they did not play. 11:24.135 --> 11:29.239 [SPEAKER_01]: a full week of baseball, but we'll be back next week with our minor leaguer of the week. 11:29.599 --> 11:37.025 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to see how these episodes start to turn out because we're going to have a lot of moves, whether that's prospects coming in or going out. 11:37.065 --> 11:46.412 [SPEAKER_01]: There are going to be changes made in the organization by the trade deadline, which will be when this drops nine days away. 11:47.667 --> 11:54.892 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you might see guys like Cam Devaney who's going to be joining us in just a couple of minutes, playing shorts up for the Pittsburgh Pirates. 11:55.372 --> 11:57.193 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, really excited to talk with him. 11:57.453 --> 12:01.916 [SPEAKER_01]: Before we take a break here, Scott, we're going to PNC Park tonight. 12:02.777 --> 12:03.577 [SPEAKER_01]: The sun is out. 12:05.058 --> 12:05.938 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be hot. 12:07.600 --> 12:10.882 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not bringing in umbrella to the game, but you know what I would like to have? 12:12.563 --> 12:14.224 [SPEAKER_01]: Like some kind of shade like a cover. 12:15.243 --> 12:17.985 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, and we don't have a dome at PNC Park. 12:18.025 --> 12:34.416 [SPEAKER_01]: We do not have a retractable roof or an open air ballpark, but maybe a tent from Tom's tents could come into play, and he could provide the shade that we need to have the most comfortable, amazing experience possible, and that doesn't just apply to a baseball game. 12:35.316 --> 12:38.919 [SPEAKER_01]: Weddings, Keaton Yaros, barbott mitsfuss, 12:39.814 --> 12:45.357 [SPEAKER_01]: Family reunions, whatever you need, a tent for Tom has you covered. 12:45.638 --> 12:47.399 [SPEAKER_01]: Scott, I say it all the time on here. 12:47.539 --> 12:51.281 [SPEAKER_01]: Every time I try and call one of the big tent companies, I'm on hold forever. 12:51.821 --> 12:53.722 [SPEAKER_01]: I end up just hanging up out of frustration. 12:54.063 --> 12:56.224 [SPEAKER_01]: If you call Tom right now, what happens? 12:57.245 --> 12:58.786 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man, I'll show you right now. 12:59.166 --> 12:59.626 [SPEAKER_01]: Watch this. 13:01.747 --> 13:03.068 [SPEAKER_04]: Hey, Tom's tense. 13:03.108 --> 13:06.510 [SPEAKER_04]: Your live on Bucco Banner just want to show people how quickly you answer the phone. 13:06.550 --> 13:07.391 [SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for answering. 13:08.351 --> 13:08.812 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course. 13:10.438 --> 13:17.882 [SPEAKER_03]: But Tom sends me an answer on the first ring to try to get through and make sure we can have a mark on. 13:18.102 --> 13:22.825 [SPEAKER_03]: Get to the eating the taters or what they need to do for their thinking but stressful for them. 13:23.365 --> 13:26.486 [SPEAKER_03]: So, always gonna try to call. 13:28.047 --> 13:28.588 [SPEAKER_03]: Call straight. 13:29.348 --> 13:30.729 [SPEAKER_03]: So, thank you for calling. 13:31.049 --> 13:31.649 [SPEAKER_04]: You're the man. 13:31.849 --> 13:32.710 [SPEAKER_04]: You're the man Tom. 13:33.010 --> 13:33.350 [SPEAKER_04]: All righty. 13:33.370 --> 13:34.110 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll talk to you later. 13:34.130 --> 13:36.372 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you have the park in the night? 13:38.863 --> 13:40.364 [SPEAKER_01]: Tom's Tense has you covered. 13:40.384 --> 13:40.684 [SPEAKER_01]: Told you. 13:40.944 --> 13:42.766 [SPEAKER_01]: First ring crazy. 13:42.806 --> 13:43.286 [SPEAKER_01]: First ring. 13:43.786 --> 13:44.807 [SPEAKER_01]: He's inspiring. 13:45.087 --> 13:49.070 [SPEAKER_01]: He's great to deal with and he's going to get you the best deal possible on a tent. 13:49.310 --> 13:51.732 [SPEAKER_01]: You can go to Tom's TensePGH.com. 13:51.772 --> 13:55.094 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, that's Tom's TensePGH.com for a quote. 13:55.174 --> 14:00.398 [SPEAKER_01]: Tom's going to answer on the first ring and you're going to have the best tent experience possible again. 14:00.738 --> 14:03.000 [SPEAKER_01]: Tom's TensePGH.com. 14:04.181 --> 14:05.102 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a break here. 14:05.142 --> 14:12.108 [SPEAKER_01]: Scott and then we'll be back with the newest member of the Pirates Organization and current short stuff for the Indianapolis Indians, Cam Devaney. 14:12.789 --> 14:20.576 [SPEAKER_01]: Joining us now on Bucco Banner is the newest member of the Pittsburgh Pirates Organization and current short stuff for the Indianapolis Indians. 14:21.096 --> 14:22.137 [SPEAKER_01]: Cam Devaney, Cam. 14:22.257 --> 14:23.038 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the show. 14:24.279 --> 14:24.980 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having us, guys. 14:26.484 --> 14:27.424 [SPEAKER_04]: Cam, welcome on man. 14:27.464 --> 14:28.584 [SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the buckas. 14:28.664 --> 14:29.685 [SPEAKER_04]: We're happy to have you. 14:30.005 --> 14:31.865 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's get right into it, man. 14:33.105 --> 14:34.186 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's start with your story. 14:34.726 --> 14:35.686 [SPEAKER_04]: Your baseball journey. 14:35.746 --> 14:37.106 [SPEAKER_04]: You got drafted by the Brewers. 14:37.286 --> 14:39.547 [SPEAKER_04]: You got traded to the Royals. 14:39.687 --> 14:42.687 [SPEAKER_04]: And now you've just recently been traded to the Pirates for Adam Frazier. 14:43.228 --> 14:45.648 [SPEAKER_04]: Talk to us about the whole trades scenario. 14:45.688 --> 14:46.488 [SPEAKER_04]: What's that like? 14:47.168 --> 14:49.749 [SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, adjusting from one organization to another. 14:50.675 --> 14:52.556 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, I mean, there's a huge learning curve, obviously. 14:53.676 --> 14:58.858 [SPEAKER_02]: Every organization runs things a little different, but I think the fact that I've already done it once before helps. 14:59.939 --> 15:05.181 [SPEAKER_02]: Doing a mid-season is a little unique, especially at the All-Star Break in terms of travel and logistics. 15:05.201 --> 15:12.404 [SPEAKER_02]: We had some pretty crazy things going on, but so far the guys have been great, and I mean, everything I've gotten in terms of feedback has been awesome. 15:12.424 --> 15:14.765 [SPEAKER_02]: So I've so far really enjoyed these guys. 15:16.032 --> 15:18.994 [SPEAKER_01]: little bit of foreshadowing getting called up during the pirate series. 15:19.114 --> 15:24.458 [SPEAKER_01]: I know nothing happened during that series, but was there any talks or any indication that your name was being thrown around? 15:24.478 --> 15:26.340 [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, no. 15:27.240 --> 15:31.484 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I actually woke up Wednesday morning to call from our GM with the royals. 15:31.544 --> 15:36.027 [SPEAKER_02]: And I just expected to get optioned, honestly. 15:36.107 --> 15:42.372 [SPEAKER_02]: So to hear about a trade was came out of left field, but you know, obviously a cool opportunity. 15:43.292 --> 15:45.836 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, what's the adjustment bin from level level? 15:45.856 --> 15:52.125 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you've gone from Elon to a professional baseball to the brokers and you've worked your way up through the systems. 15:52.566 --> 15:57.393 [SPEAKER_04]: Talk about the adjustment from college to professional ball and then, you know, working up from each level. 15:58.395 --> 16:01.196 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, I think the biggest thing is just the number of games. 16:01.256 --> 16:06.979 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even in college, which at the time felt like a long season, you know, you basically triple the number of games. 16:07.039 --> 16:15.023 [SPEAKER_02]: So that first full season was really tough, just adjusting to the sheer duration and the wear and tear on your body. 16:15.063 --> 16:16.263 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's the biggest thing. 16:17.104 --> 16:18.704 [SPEAKER_02]: And then consistency is everything. 16:19.305 --> 16:23.086 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, riding the highs and lows of a full season is 16:24.724 --> 16:37.353 [SPEAKER_02]: probably the most challenging part and I think it doesn't get talked about enough and you know your ability to be consistent or at least manage the highs and lows effectively is I think really what sets apart you know the good players from just the average. 16:38.646 --> 16:46.110 [SPEAKER_01]: You're drafted in twenty nineteen and obviously COVID had a pretty big impact on the minor league here obviously major league season was cut short. 16:46.671 --> 17:05.842 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that had any any impact in either your development or just I mean generally guys that are drafted around that time period having that year off of baseball or just getting slowed down in the process was that an obstacle that you found difficult to to navigate or was it just kind of hit the ground running once we're back. 17:06.955 --> 17:08.897 [SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, I think it was a huge obstacle, honestly. 17:09.838 --> 17:14.622 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just got in my feet wet and pro ball in the middle of my first spring training. 17:14.662 --> 17:18.265 [SPEAKER_02]: So those are, I'd say key development just times. 17:18.885 --> 17:21.888 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was already a senior science, so I was older from the jump. 17:22.809 --> 17:23.769 [SPEAKER_02]: So it certainly didn't help. 17:24.170 --> 17:28.153 [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, I kind of showed my first full year, I struggled. 17:29.294 --> 17:40.883 [SPEAKER_02]: There were elements that, you know, of just playing a season where you kind of just, it had been so long that you kind of forget, you know, the ends and outs and you just don't have your routine and your feels quite what you want them. 17:41.703 --> 17:44.225 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think losing that year was pretty big. 17:44.265 --> 17:46.567 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just fortunate that they stuck with me and gave me another shot. 17:48.127 --> 17:48.687 [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. 17:48.827 --> 17:49.187 [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. 17:50.068 --> 17:51.128 [SPEAKER_04]: Coming into Pittsburgh now. 17:51.728 --> 17:56.770 [SPEAKER_04]: You've got a team that is, you know, you're probably going to see an opportunity here pretty soon. 17:56.810 --> 17:59.610 [SPEAKER_04]: Does that, is that something that you thought about when you heard the news of the trade? 17:59.650 --> 18:01.331 [SPEAKER_04]: Is that something that may be excited you? 18:01.351 --> 18:04.692 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, what were your initial thoughts when you, when you got that call from your GM? 18:05.663 --> 18:06.304 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly that. 18:06.344 --> 18:15.033 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, I think in Kansas City, it was tough because with Bobby and my Cal on the left side, it's, you know, there's not a lot of opportunity there and then India at second. 18:15.073 --> 18:22.321 [SPEAKER_02]: So the biggest things stood out to me is just the room for opportunity and, you know, a chance to really prove myself. 18:22.361 --> 18:26.386 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I absolutely think about that and, you know, I'm looking forward to hopefully getting a shot. 18:27.352 --> 18:28.572 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a spot on the left side? 18:28.612 --> 18:33.634 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, short stop is your primary American, or you've played third base, and second, even some outfield. 18:33.654 --> 18:41.056 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you more comfortable at short stop, or do you feel like you could almost serve as like a utility in that sense of anywhere in the infield or even a corner? 18:41.076 --> 18:50.759 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I've spent the most time at short, so I'd say naturally, I'm probably the most comfortable there, but being a utility option is something I really want to dive into. 18:50.819 --> 18:53.960 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm pretty much open to whatever the team needs. 18:55.366 --> 18:56.167 [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. 18:56.247 --> 19:00.589 [SPEAKER_04]: Cam, your offensive game has really taken a step forward in recent seasons. 19:00.689 --> 19:04.411 [SPEAKER_04]: What adjustments have you made at the play with your approach and your swing and everything? 19:04.431 --> 19:05.712 [SPEAKER_04]: You want to talk through that a little bit? 19:06.532 --> 19:07.633 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think there's a couple of things. 19:07.813 --> 19:16.678 [SPEAKER_02]: One, I think as you get older, you start to learn how to slow things down and how to kind of gauge at the ads in terms of how they're going to pitch you. 19:17.619 --> 19:19.019 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, the more you do it, the more 19:20.818 --> 19:22.259 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just the more comfortably you get with it. 19:22.359 --> 19:24.840 [SPEAKER_02]: And another thing is just working. 19:24.880 --> 19:26.701 [SPEAKER_02]: I worked with a new hitting coach this past off season. 19:27.822 --> 19:28.402 [SPEAKER_02]: Dan had again. 19:28.542 --> 19:32.384 [SPEAKER_02]: He's up in Philly and I just honestly really clicked. 19:32.444 --> 19:37.467 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I just the way he taught hitting really spoke to me. 19:37.487 --> 19:40.349 [SPEAKER_02]: And I have a much better sense of what I'm trying to accomplish each day now. 19:41.789 --> 19:44.071 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'd say that was the biggest jump year to year that I've had. 19:45.371 --> 19:46.092 [SPEAKER_02]: And it showed, I mean, it's 19:46.832 --> 20:03.394 [SPEAKER_02]: My move is cleaned up considerably and there's not as much movement going on so I feel like I'm more repeatable now and yeah I can just that's the biggest thing that like I said consistency earlier but repeatability is the same same kind of idea like being able to take the same swing in each day is really important. 20:04.119 --> 20:14.144 [SPEAKER_04]: I think Adam and I have both played and we all have had coaches that the way they talk about ball just speaks to us better than some other coaches. 20:14.224 --> 20:16.345 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I think we've all experienced it, I don't know. 20:17.186 --> 20:19.147 [SPEAKER_04]: So, mix, mix complete sense. 20:20.560 --> 20:33.740 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, just just a really cool connection that came about, basically just gave a shot through my agent and I ended up loving him and I ended up spending all off season with him. 20:33.760 --> 20:34.481 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was great. 20:35.253 --> 20:40.736 [SPEAKER_01]: Just looking at the video from early on your career till now, you mentioned just being a little bit quieter. 20:40.937 --> 20:43.858 [SPEAKER_01]: I look like the hands are a little bit in a better spot. 20:43.918 --> 20:45.299 [SPEAKER_01]: You still have the high leg kick. 20:45.339 --> 20:50.943 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that more of just like a timing thing getting the lower half engaged there and leading with that? 20:51.963 --> 20:56.446 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I used to have my bad on my shoulders start, which led to just a lot of movement. 20:57.107 --> 21:00.949 [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, it was part of my timing or whatever you want to call it. 21:00.989 --> 21:01.949 [SPEAKER_02]: But at the end of the day, it was 21:03.036 --> 21:09.198 [SPEAKER_02]: making it difficult to be consistent in terms of like just being on time for fastballs or whatever maybe. 21:09.218 --> 21:12.939 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, and even the like kick is something I'd like to come down on. 21:13.839 --> 21:14.999 [SPEAKER_02]: That just kind of comes naturally. 21:15.039 --> 21:16.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't see it. 21:17.200 --> 21:23.882 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think I'd say it's probably a little smaller this year, but even moving forward, like I'd like to simplify as much as I can. 21:25.642 --> 21:28.923 [SPEAKER_04]: Kim, I like to dive into the mental side of the game. 21:29.143 --> 21:32.284 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's a long season, especially going from college ball to pro ball. 21:33.586 --> 21:37.891 [SPEAKER_04]: What is something that helps you get through like a tough stretch? 21:37.911 --> 21:39.632 [SPEAKER_04]: Because this is inevitable through a long season. 21:39.672 --> 21:43.356 [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to go through a stretch of games where you just don't feel it or don't have it. 21:43.797 --> 21:48.602 [SPEAKER_04]: What is something that you do that helps you get through, you know, maybe a mini slump here and there. 21:49.723 --> 21:58.967 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think, I mean, we all struggle with it at times, getting caught up in the moment, but I think, thinking in the macro is the biggest thing. 21:59.047 --> 22:06.610 [SPEAKER_02]: Even one really bad week, if you can move beyond that, at the end of the season, it's not really going to make the biggest difference. 22:08.071 --> 22:18.215 [SPEAKER_02]: So whenever I feel like I'm getting worried or caught up about one game or even three games, wherever it may be, I just try to zoom out and trust that once I get to the end of the season, I'm going to be where I need to be. 22:19.449 --> 22:24.453 [SPEAKER_01]: Going back to the heading real quick, you had eighteen homers at the break. 22:24.813 --> 22:29.357 [SPEAKER_01]: I think your career high is around like twenty three or something around there. 22:29.637 --> 22:31.679 [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean clearly the power numbers have increased. 22:31.699 --> 22:36.302 [SPEAKER_01]: You attribute that to some of the involvement in your swingers or something else. 22:36.382 --> 22:41.827 [SPEAKER_01]: It's deeper such as like analytics or just overall approach that's helping contribute to the power numbers. 22:43.112 --> 22:46.355 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I honestly would attribute it just to the move that I have right now. 22:46.395 --> 23:07.151 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, simplifying and just I'm in a more repeatable spot where, you know, if I get certain pitches, I know I can, you know, just do damage consistently, whereas I think last year there were stretches where I was trying to change or tweak things, you know, really over and over where I didn't give my body a chance to just settle in and like have the same move. 23:08.172 --> 23:08.372 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 23:09.517 --> 23:21.408 [SPEAKER_04]: Speaking of analytics, how much do you use pre-game scouting reports or any type of analytics between each game or maybe even weekly going into certain matchups? 23:22.826 --> 23:33.689 [SPEAKER_02]: I think honestly it's a tricky thing because we are given a lot of information now and I think the hardest thing to do is just figure out what helps you and what you can kind of like push off to the side. 23:34.409 --> 23:39.210 [SPEAKER_02]: That's something I've definitely got in a better feel for as I've gotten older and as I've used it more. 23:40.310 --> 23:47.332 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'd say I'm somewhere in the middle where I'm not, you know, some guys just don't want to see anything, some guys want, you know, everything and I feel like it's just too much. 23:47.372 --> 23:47.952 [SPEAKER_02]: It's overloading. 23:49.272 --> 23:54.233 [SPEAKER_02]: I think getting a general baseline of what you're going to face is very important in terms of preparation. 23:54.273 --> 23:57.774 [SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, the game's moving so fast, the balls moving so fast. 23:58.154 --> 24:02.835 [SPEAKER_02]: I think once you get in the box, you just have to kind of clear your head and trust in your own ability. 24:04.475 --> 24:08.776 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you've only been with Indianapolis for the last series. 24:09.636 --> 24:13.097 [SPEAKER_01]: Any discussion with Triolo, both being New Hampshire guys? 24:14.527 --> 24:17.248 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I mentioned it to him, but he said he was only born there. 24:17.328 --> 24:21.390 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I don't think he spent much time there. 24:21.450 --> 24:24.711 [SPEAKER_02]: So that was that was disappointing to hear because I mean, you don't see. 24:24.791 --> 24:26.512 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't see me after guys very often. 24:26.572 --> 24:26.712 [SPEAKER_02]: So 24:27.318 --> 24:31.079 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say we're leading the league and infielders from Nashville, New Hampshire. 24:31.659 --> 24:31.999 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:32.219 --> 24:33.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, by a wide margin, I'd say. 24:34.300 --> 24:34.580 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 24:35.080 --> 24:35.500 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 24:36.141 --> 24:36.621 [SPEAKER_04]: I love that. 24:36.641 --> 24:37.061 [SPEAKER_04]: I love that. 24:37.081 --> 24:40.682 [SPEAKER_04]: We used to have, I used to have my family reunions up on Lake Winnipeh's hockey. 24:40.702 --> 24:41.282 [SPEAKER_04]: Some familiar. 24:41.302 --> 24:42.742 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you're awesome. 24:42.943 --> 24:43.243 [SPEAKER_04]: Awesome. 24:43.563 --> 24:43.743 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 24:45.915 --> 24:49.438 [SPEAKER_04]: Kim, I know you've spent some time with the Royals and some time with the Brewers. 24:49.858 --> 24:54.101 [SPEAKER_04]: We usually ask this question if there were episodes with Pirates Prospect. 24:54.161 --> 25:01.526 [SPEAKER_04]: So this is probably going to be an answer from the Royals organization, but who have you played with so far position player or pitcher that has wild you so far in your career? 25:04.068 --> 25:07.891 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go with pitcher Noah Cameron. 25:08.491 --> 25:10.192 [SPEAKER_02]: He's obviously lighting it up for them this year. 25:11.733 --> 25:13.174 [SPEAKER_02]: Really just as poised, I mean, he 25:14.217 --> 25:15.497 [SPEAKER_02]: He is completely unfazed. 25:15.657 --> 25:21.659 [SPEAKER_02]: Even, I mean, he's had, I don't know how many starts now in the big leagues, but he kind of walks around like he's been doing it for six, eight years. 25:21.719 --> 25:36.103 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, it's honestly really cool to watch and just like inspiring, honestly, like that's kind of how, I think that's like something you would really want people to say of you is that you just, you're ready for the moment and you don't, 25:37.683 --> 25:40.104 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't let things spiral out of control when things get big. 25:40.124 --> 25:45.507 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's been awesome and I love watching him play and I'm, you know, hoping he closes out your strong. 25:46.787 --> 25:48.668 [SPEAKER_01]: Can appreciate you joining this show. 25:48.708 --> 25:51.790 [SPEAKER_01]: We're excited to have you here in Pittsburgh sooner rather than later. 25:51.830 --> 25:54.611 [SPEAKER_01]: So looking forward to seeing you Pittsburgh shortly. 25:55.992 --> 25:56.272 [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome. 25:56.312 --> 25:56.812 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys. 25:56.852 --> 25:57.512 [SPEAKER_02]: I really appreciate it. 25:58.293 --> 25:58.673 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, Kim. 26:06.591 --> 26:07.877 [SPEAKER_00]: And it let me run the base. 26:08.078 --> 26:10.931 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my time is like my money cuz I can't afford a waste. 26:11.051 --> 26:15.431 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wifey is a lawyer take my day to my dates or the stick by the plate