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[SPEAKER_03]: Deadline episode for us on the gis baseball show.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Tuesday, July, twenty-second jack.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But we were heavily influenced by Passens article on ESPN.com that released on Monday about the trade likelihood for a lot of the top candidates.
[SPEAKER_03]: We figured we were due for a Deadline episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to rework it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of the names that pass an alluded to in that ESPN article are names that we're going to talk about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you mentioned, Gino Suarez is the top name available at the deadline.
[SPEAKER_03]: Understandably so Bob Knight and Gail said no player and MLB history has been traded in the season in which they already got to thirty five homers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Suarez could very well be the first, but we shall see.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to play instead of the percentage game.
[SPEAKER_03]: the low medium high games.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the likelihood game and we're not going to say the best fits for teams because then we would just be saying, all the cubs would be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: The tigers would be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fillies would be good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll shout out a couple unique ones if I think if it lines up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know if I have one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying, if it happens, I may be guilty of it, but I'm not going to do the obvious.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, send picture to cubs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Send third baseman to Yankees thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: the thing that I want to do with this is what kind of package do you have to put together?
[SPEAKER_03]: And for the sake of a team system, that might be beneficial, but it could also be, what do you need to top five prospects in a system to do this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at contract structure and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's how I want to attack this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Does that sound?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I love that because like whether it's our discord or on social or whatever it may be, it seems to be the most common question, which I totally understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like what kind of package does this player potentially command?
[SPEAKER_04]: And like,
[SPEAKER_04]: even, you know, for us, it's an educated guess, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll usually throw some feelers out to people out there that may know even a little bit better than me, but I think we can give you at least a pretty good barometer of, you know, what it's going to look like for some of these players, where it becomes really tough, though, is those elite rentals, where you have like an all-time rental?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tanner Scott was in an all time rental, but he was up there in terms of one of the better reliever seasons you saw for a guy being moved.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that returned shocked everybody in terms of just how substantive it was.
[SPEAKER_04]: So rentals can be a little bit tougher, but we can give you still a, I think a decent gauge.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think rentals are fascinating.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also put a guy like JP Sears down who all of a sudden rose and dollars reporting that the A's are listening on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sears has three and a half years of control left and he's making the league minimum this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's he making next year?
[SPEAKER_03]: One point five to like it fascinates me.
[SPEAKER_03]: The structure is some of these guys that are being rumored right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and and you think about if you're a team that wants to add a picture that you know, you see that the
[SPEAKER_04]: the price of controllable pitching and say, man, we don't have the prospect capital to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You try to get creative.
[SPEAKER_04]: You try to get savvy.
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of teams might be like, oh, five year array from JP Sears, but three years of control and he's pitching in a place where, I mean, it is really, really hard to keep that ERA down historically.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been in the low force.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you look at this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a four eight on the road, five six at home.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's going to be teams that
[SPEAKER_04]: given non-negligible amount of prospect capital to add a player like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it is names that we would just never even think about really talking about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to start with the best name?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you Hideo Suarez the Arizona Diamondbacks is the best name that is being rumored right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, stay to the Diamondbacks.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just swept St.
[SPEAKER_03]: Louis.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're five hundred.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a low medium high on are you Hideo Suarez not being an Arizona Diamondback by the deadline.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think this is one of the few where we'll probably spend a little bit more time on the larger team conversation because I honestly wanted to do, if we weren't just doing this theme anyway, it's like a segment on what do you do if you're the Diamondbacks?
[SPEAKER_04]: And you try not to put too much weight into each individual game, but I don't think there's a team in Major League Baseball right now where each individual game matters more.
[SPEAKER_04]: then the Arizona Diamondbacks over the next week and a half because you have a nice week here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It becomes a lot harder to justify selling because you got to look at the last two years.
[SPEAKER_04]: This isn't just the fact that this team is as one foreign row and plans and better ball.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have been not a second half team.
[SPEAKER_04]: The second half team the last two years.
[SPEAKER_04]: They've been iffy in the first half, great in the second half the last two years.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you probably like knowing
[SPEAKER_04]: you do like rolling admissions and in college like some some schools will like they don't put all of their decisions out at once is like some kids here back like a month before two months before I think university of Iowa I think university of Iowa you would hear back within forty eight hours Indiana did like the rolling admissions thing too I think I wonder if that's the approach that you take if you're the diamond back so you don't want to fully freeze and then you lose three in a row at the end right before the deadline you didn't do anything
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and you got a now panic trade five guys that are expiring like maybe swarrers is the last player that you're holding up until the deadline, but you know, uh, a couple of the more easy to move expiring pieces could go earlier.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, that, but the thing is is a Merrill Kelly is so valuable to them right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: You trade Merrill.
[SPEAKER_04]: You might as well just trade Gino and another two and it's starting to pitch right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I mean, maybe you start with Grichuk, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Just see what you get there and start the song launch into the one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think about the, I think about the twenty one Chicago Cubs where it was like, Jack Peterson on July fourth and then a couple weeks later was by as riso Brian.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every game shifts things a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: My question to you, I guess is
[SPEAKER_04]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: What do they need to do for you to think to justify not selling?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because all the sudden gallons thrown pretty well, if you keep doing that, Ryan Nelson's throwing fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, that rotation isn't good, but it's not, it's not so bad that you don't bother trying.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel comfortable every single time Eduardo Rodriguez tells the rubber for the Arizona Diamondbacks, but he's immovable at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for me, it really depends on record.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm looking at the nationally wildcard standings right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Final spot belongs to San Diego, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So the Cubs and the Brewers are tied at top of the division, whoever finishes second in that division will hold the top wildcard spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Mets are a game and a half clear of the final spot, and then you go to San Diego holding that final wild card spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Since an addies two and a half back, San Francisco's two and a half back, St.
[SPEAKER_03]: Louis's three and a half back, Arizona after winning four in a row, enters play on Monday, four and a half back of the final wild card spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they are within two and a half by the deadline,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm holding on to everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I may start a soft launch with guys that are not playing all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also guys that I feel confident can have their role backfield.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like Nailer, I'm moving Nailer because I know Paven Smith can play first base every day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's my kind of thing, but like, because you're not waving the white flag, but waving the white flag by moving a rental in Josh Nailer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you're waving the white flag by trading your thirty five homer guy that has been a top five hitter in Major League Baseball this year, while also moving two guys that will start the front two games maybe in the postseason for you in Kelly and in Gallant.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's the big three for me in Arizona.
[SPEAKER_03]: I look at Swara's Kelly Gallant.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm waiting until the last day.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think if you're within two, or maybe two and a half of the final wild card spot, you keep all three.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I just googled, A. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E. E.
[SPEAKER_03]: in twenty eighteen, but that was to bypass arbitration.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I based on the argument for the agency.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So look, that you're not going to recruit the same amount, of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: But at least you know that you're going to get something back even when you retain at your annual swars.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you couldn't at least do the qualifying offer, get a draft pick back situation, it'd be even more of a push towards selling, but no, that is a point.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the debates have drafted really well.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have.
[SPEAKER_03]: Galen also is eligible for the qualifying offer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nailers not, uh, Kelly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nailer might be.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could get three, like QO picks like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, that's not nearly what you could get risk of nailer opting in, although he might be playing too well to opt.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think I think you got to take it day by day.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's interesting?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's three games against the Astros.
[SPEAKER_04]: You take two out of three there.
[SPEAKER_04]: with the way they're playing ball, then you potentially sweep the pirates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you've got three against the tigers where you can really think about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then an off day to just go nuts and clear it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it's a coin flip right now to just to circle back and answer the crux of the question here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do think it's a coin flip because if this team plays well, you have Corbin Carroll back at super star ability.
[SPEAKER_04]: Could tell Marta is playing at a superstar.
[SPEAKER_04]: level right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, Gino Suarez is too.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to get paving Smith back as you mentioned.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to get Gabriel Moreno back.
[SPEAKER_04]: The problem is, this bullpin is not winning your shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's, and you're not going to trade pieces to add to the bullpin unless it's a controllable arm even then.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's not a lot of teams dangling controllable reliever arms out there, but that would be the only
[SPEAKER_04]: way I think you could justify if you stay you, you may need to go try to find a controllable reliever arm at the same time, which is like we went from standing pat to to now selling quote unquote, but that could be someone that like a Tim Tau or buying excuse me, that could be someone that maybe a Tim Tau or how a Tom is for whatever can potentially net you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious.
[SPEAKER_03]: If that guy is good enough, what do they need?
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably need to set up guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those cost a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like an Alex Thomas is he getting you a set up guy?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: You would need to put the farm a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would be surprised if they entered buyer mode at any point.
[SPEAKER_03]: My fans, they're going to ride the offense through the tape and stand pat or they're going to sell off some pieces.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But for the sake of the exercise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me likelihood that they trade genome right now on Monday, July, twenty first as we talk and on Tuesday, July, twenty second as people listen to this likelihood low likelihood medium or high.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go medium.
[SPEAKER_04]: The other reason why I think it could skew like to high medium, which is a cop out is that we talked about it a little bit on the show, like to the third base situation.
[SPEAKER_04]: How many teams can you look at across the league contenders?
[SPEAKER_04]: Why is that they're like, hey, they could probably use the third baseman.
[SPEAKER_04]: They could probably use the third baseman.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could upgrade probably five or six contenders immediately with anyone else.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you could upgrade any team with a player, but you know what I'm saying, like third base specifically, like a slightly above average third baseman would be an upgrade.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I think it is going to be a seller's market on the genome front.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the offers, like they're going to listen no matter what, the offers may just be too immense to not do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the leverage is in their favor.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's totally in their favor.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think about the type of package.
[SPEAKER_03]: And for me,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a consensus top one hundred prospect and baseball and it and a guy that's either on the back into the top one hundred or just outside the top one hundred.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I look at like the Yankees, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody wants to talk about Gino Suarez being a Yankee in two weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really don't think this gets done without Lombard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then yeah, you can't just thirty five homers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know people say, oh, you can do without Lombard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gino Suarez has thirty five homeruns right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can't do it then.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be that would be malpractice.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think if you go like because I think the D backs one control will pitching if you go slitter.
[SPEAKER_04]: And and and like several and five or guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: He has thirty five home run.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think of the last time that we've seen a player of this caliber.
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't.
[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking about Tanner Scott, so it was a down year, and that's a relief.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it was going through a twenty inning for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a down year for Robbie, snowing, and some of these other guys, and they still got, you know, a borderline top one hundred guy, and then like three back end top thirty types in a system.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're not going to move Lombard for rental.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, how can like a Yankees team theoretically for using that farm as a barometer, make it work?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be slitter and then it's got to be like Bryce coming up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, coming him and then another couple, you know, back in top thirty guys at least.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, La Lotte, her La Grande, whichever one's pitching really well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, La Grande.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it has to start with a consensus top one hundred guy and I'd say skewing more towards like the top fifty but maybe a strong that's that part subjective and then yeah you probably need two more
[SPEAKER_04]: Top fifteen guys in like an average system.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got to make it happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's under.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's probably back.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then in the back, or you fill it with guys in your four to ten range.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think cutting him, Schlitter, Lagrange could get it done, but then there goes your pitching prospect.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, hall.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, that's.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a lot.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's potentially eighteen years of pictures that you're moving the starting pictures, legit starting pictures that are talented.
[SPEAKER_04]: For the exercise, let's say, you know, who's another team that would fit the exercise like the cops, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you have to start that deal with
[SPEAKER_04]: an ONKC or a bias stereos, which doesn't really fit for them, but just for the, for the sake of the exercise.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a start with one of those guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: Case in the end.
[SPEAKER_04]: And wagons.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like that's, again, that's crazy for a rental.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's why I think it's going to be interesting because you have this unprecedented rental.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you have teams that just, it's, it's malpractice to part with that caliber of prospect for a rental.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's going to be that,
[SPEAKER_04]: just aggressive and desperate is going to be the interesting, you know, the interesting approach.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just, it doesn't seem very cubs like to do that, especially when you already did it for one rental.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, I think it's a top-one hunter guy and then I think it's two top-fifteen guys in a system.
[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's going to get crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: How about Galen?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's stick on Arizona right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that Galen?
[SPEAKER_03]: Low medium high and then what a package would look like?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think
[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny, because I just think if you move one, then they all go, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think they all have to be medium.
[SPEAKER_04]: They all have to be medium.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Galen, he's going to get what, one more start before this thing is wrapped up.
[SPEAKER_04]: This first, the deadline is approaching.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Galen, he just got killed in Anaheim before the break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he had two great starts before that, two really good starts before that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he's commanding anything crazy, but then we saw Lucas Gielito, net Edgar Carroll.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think one quality prospect, like one French top one hundred guy, maybe that's even a little bit aggressive.
[SPEAKER_03]: But so for me, like I'm using the cubs as a barometer right now because that could be a gallon fit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I look at like triantos in Jack nearly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that could be the price for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, as you are, is almost it's like a half run better on the road, so you can maybe lean into that a little bit, but yeah, I think it's something along those lines is like a quality.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe a guy that when he's going right, can sneak his way into its open under a list and then a filler.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Trianto's can sneak his way into a top hundred list and nearly is a six eight reliever that throws fuzz that struggling to find the strike zone right now, but opponents are hitting one seventy against him at AAA.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like that's the kind of guy, and obviously the Diamondbacks wants him pitching in return.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kelly, I assume you're also medium on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Medium, but
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, this is a guy that I think is probably going to commend more of a return than gallon.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why it's hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're the D-backs, like you've got to feel really good that you can get to this, you know, get to the postseason here because I mean, they could get like four or five top one hundred prospects for for all of the pieces that they're moving off.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think he's getting the top one hundred guy, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm absolutely, I think Kelly is more expensive than Zach Allen.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree because you know what you're getting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which is huge.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're getting, you're getting a low to mid threes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, and a guy that I think can go out there and compete.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to remember the postseason performance, but I'm sure that that has been good enough in his career.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a top one hundred guy and a filler as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like a higher end headliner and then probably a slightly better filler too than what gallon would get you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the price, yeah, prices more, but similar to higher likelihood.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Stephen Quann, the Cleveland Guardians is the next guy that I want to talk about.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, Quann was highlighted in the Jeff Pass in peace.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had the likelihood of him being moved low.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, twenty percent, fifteen percent, whatever pass and went with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it seem lower?
[SPEAKER_03]: Does it seem medium at this point?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think low.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: It just doesn't make sense to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Does this team really need a joke to the farm system that badly?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is this team that far off from competing?
[SPEAKER_04]: You just, you know, you just extended Tanner Bible.
[SPEAKER_04]: You I know as I'm being his best year, but Gavin Williams is throwing the ball pretty well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Slate Jaconie looks like a savvy pickup for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shane Bieber is working back.
[SPEAKER_04]: It may not happen this year, obviously, but I think, and anytime you've got one of the best third baseman ever played a game, I just
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't see why you would move probably.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think definitely your second best bat with control.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's low.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I come to be alone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because of that, the way that they operate, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're always going to be willing to listen.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what do we got here?
[SPEAKER_04]: Three more years of control after this one with Juan?
[SPEAKER_04]: With Juan, I think it's three more years of control.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I just, no, it's actually two more after this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Juan, oh yeah, Juan is in your one of arbitration.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's making four point one this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he has two more years after this, he would assume he escalates to about seven and then he escalates to about eleven.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're getting this guy on a two year, twenty-ish million dollar deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a team that has struggled to find.
[SPEAKER_04]: above average offensive pieces outside of Jose Ramirez and and Quon himself, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean Carlos Santanas come in and kind of done what you've expected.
[SPEAKER_04]: Men's Art always is getting there, but I mean, you walk across the rest of the team.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, how many deficient hitters do they have in the back half of the lineup?
[SPEAKER_04]: This would just be, I think, saying, hey, we're kind of hunting next year a little bit too.
[SPEAKER_04]: to Jose Ramirez at thirty three.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think if you want to move quann if next year's disappointing you do it, but I think I think it's very low.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just wouldn't understand it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's going to come in a hall that I don't know how many teams are going to be willing to give up for at the end of the day, really good player, but a contact oriented corner guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and a goal glover, but contact phenomenal phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just think he's more valuable to the guardians than anybody else that's going to be acquiring him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Table said or lead off guy, I understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: going to a totally different type of hit or Ryan O'Hurn with the Baltimore Orioles.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take the words out of your mouth very, very high.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a luck that this guy is moving.
[SPEAKER_03]: It makes all the sense in the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just saw him for three right before the All Star Break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kobe Mayo is sitting on the bench.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw Mayo get one plate of appearance over a weekend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mayo can de-H.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get him in the lineup.
[SPEAKER_03]: Half two.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get Bessayo in the lineup.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or hern.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You maximize.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's in his final year of control.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's making eight million dollars.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, our team's going to be a little bit spooked of just the way he's been playing a play.
[SPEAKER_04]: You think?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so at the end of the day, he's in all star and he's still got an aid for the OPS on the year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, last thirty games is seven twenty seven, which it's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: If that's not striking out in all star year, I think you're fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, I don't know how bad it is in a corner, but he's still doing it sometimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think for teams like that versatility, still valuable.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think like that part of it is is interesting too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Samuel Bassayo has in a thousand OPS and Triple A over his last thirty games.
[SPEAKER_04]: That guy needs to get up too.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think highest can be.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what kind of return does a player like go her and having a career year on a contract year?
[SPEAKER_04]: who's slowed down a bit after a hot start, bring in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not as much as you would expect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you give me a team that jumps out to you with a hern and I can put together a little mock thing for you?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's a top one hundred guy going back and I think it could be a one for one swap of the prospect is good enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think of a team that like fits that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking like if Cincinnati is going for it, they could do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cincinnati could be a decent fit for a hern.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm thinking if they win.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they even said, too, like, we're not going to, which is so annoying.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not going to trade pieces from the future to go all in this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, all right, and just don't bother.
[SPEAKER_04]: But right, if they were doing it, like, for a rental, it doesn't need to be a South store.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't need to be Hector Rodriguez, even.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they could piece together some other options.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the other interesting thing is how many teams are lining up for a first base slash kind of corner out field type?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think many.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's on.
[SPEAKER_03]: So do you think they would entertain like a, you know, hern for Sammy's to for a deal straight up?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just play the upside type of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the way you're going to make it with an eight hundred OPS this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the way you're going to have to go about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're, if you're the, the Orioles either lower ceiling, close proximity guy or, you know, lot of ticket higher ceiling further away guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's probably the way they go about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we're being
[SPEAKER_03]: to light on the package, but I also don't because there's no, there's minimal defense of value.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can play first base, but you're getting a first base DH for half a year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and any has cooled off.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to think of other instances where we've seen players like that get, get moved, but it does help that he's not extremely expensive or anything this year, because you know, like that dead taper down, Josh Nailor's value.
[SPEAKER_04]: I share my name even then, he's still, you know, got them a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd say that in another fire, something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's just two upside, you know, further off guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Other DH that we get to talk about past and mention this guy is ESPN article.
[SPEAKER_03]: I found that a little fascinating.
[SPEAKER_03]: He also had the number incredibly high.
[SPEAKER_03]: Marcelo Zuna, thank you for your services.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will see you play elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: Marcelo Zuna had his club option picked up going into twenty five.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's making sixteen million dollars this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the team that acquires him will be on the hook for about six million dollars.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he hits unrestricted free agency after this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fascinating to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea what you pay for a guy like Ozuna.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, his hips been nagging him right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is a performance over the last forty where I do think you would be spooked.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, one eighty one two sixty eight two ninety nine slash line over his last forty games.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he needs to get going quick here to help the brave salvage a return.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just I don't I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: If he's going to do that, I am very curious because he's not cheap either.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's sixteen million.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're on the hook for seven or so the rest of the season.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think he brings in much.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think with the way he's playing this year, he's thirty four years old going to be thirty five.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's he's clogging the DH spot.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a shot to take for an offense for a team that needs an offensive spark.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't I don't think he's I don't think he's in a command much.
[SPEAKER_04]: He may have last year, but but not this year could be a bit of a dump.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it could be entirely a salary dump and to get one complex ticket.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you'll get a DSL complex kid, whatever, maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, did you see he was wearing a shirt that said Ozuna from the braves?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's really not good to turn that into a joke in a t-shirt.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I think it was a funny meme at his expense.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's one of those things that you should be like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Latching on to like proud of no you got a DWI pal like you don't be latching on to that I just I didn't love that but I'm not gonna be the like moral high ground guy here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that's gonna come in I don't think he's gonna come in a great return.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just it's a great salary dump
[SPEAKER_04]: odd season off the very high I think I'm I think almost guaranteed I mean I just someone will take a shot I mean if the price is literally nothing and I'm a team that has faint heartbeat
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what happens, you know, especially if you can get maybe the braves to eat it a little bit, I think you could definitely still take a shot.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you get taught, when he's taught, he's one of the best power headers in the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, a whole bunch of bullpin arms we gotta talk about right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Emmanuel Classia, the Cleveland Guardians of the first guy that I want to hit on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Classia,
[SPEAKER_03]: Is throwing the ball well right now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is he sigh young vote?
[SPEAKER_03]: Get her manual class say from last year?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did we see Nixon the armor in the postseason last year?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we did.
[SPEAKER_03]: But class say is number one, I think still best reliever in baseball based on what he's done over the last half decade.
[SPEAKER_03]: and a manual class A comes incredibly cheap.
[SPEAKER_03]: Puan, he's in everyday player.
[SPEAKER_03]: Class A, a reliever.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can stomach that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the contract situation on class A.
[SPEAKER_03]: is a dream come true.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's making four point nine this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you inherit about two for the remainder of the year, then you own six and a half next year, and then you've got back to back club options at ten million dollars in twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're getting one of if not the best reliever in baseball, this is the price point to do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like Cleveland can ask for a lots with class A.
[SPEAKER_04]: This one makes more sense to me because think about what you've been able to do in terms of creating assets and just filling spots, filling the open hasn't been an issue for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to replace.
[SPEAKER_04]: in a manual class A, but you can fill those rules where I mean, you forget replacing Quant, you can't even fill that rule.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think there's a case to be made that with the control that class A has that you can bring in a more significant hall.
[SPEAKER_04]: The good news is, if no one meets your asking price, okay, we'll go in the next year and we can just play this game every deadline.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not competitive.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think with teams looking at, and I don't know how much the off see or the postseason struggles will spook teams that wouldn't really spook me necessarily, especially because you're you're also looking at Ms.
[SPEAKER_04]: a guy that can help you get there as well as anybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this could be that franchise altering Hall for you, that gets you the position player talent that you need.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's still just a reliever, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: You still have Hunter Gattis.
[SPEAKER_04]: You still have Kate Smith.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Gattis is still under control.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a positive.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Browsky's been good when he's healthy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you just know that they're going to spawn more reliever arms that's just never been a problem for them.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I would consider it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't
[SPEAKER_04]: No, if anyone's going to meet a ridiculous asking price because it should be ridiculous, but I mean, you could get multiple top one hundred guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking about what the Dodgers could do, what some of these other teams can do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if the Dodgers offered Alex Freeland,
[SPEAKER_04]: which he just as one of the pieces that guy used your starting short stop tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you could get Jackson Ferris, who's an exciting left-handed arm.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could get some reliever prospects really like because you know the guardians are great at plucking them.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could get a really complete package there with guys that could help you next year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then also really jolt that farm system.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think if you're getting a freeland and you know, a few other
[SPEAKER_04]: borderline top one hundred top one hundred talents like it may be hard to say no to that I think Ferris in that situation would continue to develop really nicely he's been thrown the ball really well and then you can look at a few other players there is as fascinating options for them and here's the thing man like they could also just get a guy like Eduardo and Rico's as a throw in
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I'm throwing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm throwing halfway relief or it's a hundred and four.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, wait, we might have just gotten me in back and Cleveland can roll that dice.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if it starts with Freeland and they can get Ferris, I think they start to really listen on class.
[SPEAKER_03]: Say, where do you feel like the likelihood is medium?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if they're listening on quannin, almost, I would have said a low, but it almost makes me push more towards medium because I just, I just wonder if
[SPEAKER_04]: if they just feel like this might be a time to cash in, and especially with them just looking human in the postseason, he's been ready as a two eight six this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: But, you know, let's say gets hurt or backs up a little bit next year.
[SPEAKER_04]: You might regret it at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a reliever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd say medium.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that might be one of the surprising moves that we see because I'd be a lot more embolden as a team to go crazy on an asking price here because even if he doesn't help you this year, like he hits a wall or whatever, maybe you've got him so cheap for several more years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: other guy that was in that pass in article.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kate Smith, Kate Smith has another year on the league minimum.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a final pre-arb year in twenty six and then he has three years of arbitration starting in twenty seven.
[SPEAKER_03]: So twenty seven twenty eight twenty nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I goes zero.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no chance Cleveland trades him because if you trade class say you know you have an all-star closer and Kate Smith waiting in the wings.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, Kate Smith's punch not thirteen and a half for nine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I
[SPEAKER_04]: I would rather move Class A for a bigger hall, and then promote Kate Smith to that more consistent clothes are real.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kate Smith could also get a near-identical hall to Class A, given the bright point that he'd be at.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the control wouldn't it wouldn't be far off, I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think you move it makes sense to move one, not both.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like Class A given the price point would be the much more likely outcome.
[SPEAKER_04]: because you could potentially extend Kate Smith.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go to another guy that is getting a little bit more expensive and that's Johndorran in Minnesota.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk about two Minnesota relievers here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Johndorran is making four point one this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's got two more years of arbitration left.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he hits the open market ahead of his age thirty season in twenty twenty eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you get him for two arbitration years and of this year where you own about two million dollars.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's cheaper than class A in terms of the asking price, but it's still really freaking high.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like this is the Dodger fit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I feel like they should do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not the Dodgers, the twins, like they should do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Duran is dealt with some injuries through his career.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_04]: and who hasn't, but in transitioning him into a reliever, you know, he was banged up a lot through the minor leagues.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just, I think with some of the inconsistency over the last couple of years, he's one of these writers, one of the nastiest times in major league baseball.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think, optically, yeah, it's tough.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you may have new ownership and all of these things.
[SPEAKER_04]: You want to have that lights out closer with one of the more electric intros, but you can make a certain more case what we made with the guardians with the twins.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can say a lot of negative things about the twins, but they have been able to find relievers.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know jacks hasn't been perfect, but Griffin jacks since really the bad start has been really, really good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Lee Varlant looks like he could be a decent reliever in leverage as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Brock Stewart looks solid.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think you cash in here because this is a team that just has been consistently disappointing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It needs a shake up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think a little bit and there's not many other players that you can move.
[SPEAKER_04]: that are going to bring in a significant halt.
[SPEAKER_04]: So why not move the guy that throws one inning every other day or so?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's going to be the way you improve an overall underperforming team, especially if you don't want to trade Joe Ryan and you don't want to trade in Pablo Lopez who's hurt and some of these other guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not Ryan out right now, actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Ryan was also listed in that Jeff Passen article, and Joe Ryan, there's been some smoke about his trade possibilities.
[SPEAKER_03]: It would be maybe the largest deal on the market, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually think it would be bigger than Ayuhani Oswaris at this point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, it would be because you're getting two and a half years of Joe Ryan.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all star and one of the best fastballs in baseball.
[SPEAKER_04]: by the way that some of the more hedge fundee teams and I know the twins don't do it that way but I'm like the raise logic and some of the more
[SPEAKER_04]: analytical organizations.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the spot where you cash in two and a half years of control peak performance.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it seems like the word is that they don't want to, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: At least that's, I know I saw that somewhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is passing have on the probability?
[SPEAKER_03]: Just passing had, let me pull this right back up again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, because on one side of it, it's like if you're training to Randy,
[SPEAKER_04]: potentially see what you can do with with Joe Ryan, but maybe you can get enough of to rent with upperminer's pieces.
[SPEAKER_04]: Leukee Shaw is coming back.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have Walker Jenkins, finally, healthy and playing ball.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you feel like you can put together a little bit more of a competitive offense next year.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, Ryan wasn't even in pass in Tarticle.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it sounds like just that's probably a no go.
[SPEAKER_04]: If because he's so good right now, I think whoever's going to be taking over the franchise would would rather
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, have Joe Ryan, are they selling, what's the deal there, too?
[SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea what's going on with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're still up for sale.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it makes, I would rather move John's Iran than Joe Ryan, because you could still be looking at next year and say, we can win a world series.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can do all the things that we want to do after moving to Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you move Joe Ryan, and it's hard to say, hey, we can still make a major push next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Were you out on Griffin, Jackson?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a one or the other thing again.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't know if I would do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if they were further off, I would do both.
[SPEAKER_04]: But again, does it seem that can reshuffle?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not rebuild.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just reshuffle.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then make a push next year.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know who they prefer.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like for me, Kate Smith makes a heck of a lot more sense to hold on to then class say at this point for Cleveland.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to shop on, you shop class say because of what he is built.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it makes more sense to shop derand because he probably nets you a larger return as he's slightly more expensive and it's the same amount of control.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think they hold on to jacks, but I could understand it like it's more flip floppy to me than the Cleveland situation.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think jacks is on the lower side.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think derands on the medium side just because teams are going to be willing to kind of knock the door down a little bit to
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's a statement acquisition for GM two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got a challenge ran and we we made them run in the postseason and like that people are going to remember that you know and and
[SPEAKER_04]: I think for for the twins, oh, what kind of haul are you getting there?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's got to be upper minors, like legit prospects.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're talking about like the Alex free one type of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be those types of guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, in case he type, it's got to be the upper minor, top one hundred prospect to start that deal because otherwise, then just trade both.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's that's what makes the most sense to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be targeting those
[SPEAKER_04]: upper miners prospects, maybe some blocks guys that can help you sooner rather than later.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't totally make sense, but like a Harry Ford type of prospect as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like those guys that are pretty much knocking on the door that can help you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: How about Ryan Hellsley?
[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan Hellsley is in his last year, a team control with St.
[SPEAKER_03]: Louis.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hellsley, all of a sudden it looked like St.
[SPEAKER_03]: Louis was going to go for it, but off a sweep in Arizona, it feels like they could be pivoting elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're loving this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Heinblum is loving.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's okay with this and Ryan Hellsley.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like the likelihood is now high for him being moved and I think he's going to be one of the more expensive rentals on the market.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they can immediately plug and play in upper minors guy if they move a closer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they do go to Colorado for three games.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you sweep those all the sudden you're a game and a half out or whatever, maybe that's the part that's tough.
[SPEAKER_04]: You go to Colorado then you go to San Diego for four and you got the deadline.
[SPEAKER_04]: If there
[SPEAKER_04]: Three, two and a half, three and a half out.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you do if you're them?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're currently three and a half.
[SPEAKER_04]: You probably do nothing to be honest.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's a QO candidate.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think medium.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think medium, if you drop two out of three to the Rockies, I think that might really ignite the fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or if you get swept by San Diego, like you can move, you can move, you can move Helsley in the last twenty minutes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Helsley is going to be moved in the last twenty four.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I'm gonna go fifty-fifty, so medium.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm gonna go sixty-five, thirty-five, but I think that's high.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like meeting her holes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's kind of a hall for her.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know you probably go high on the higher end of the spectrum than I do with like what kind of hall he can bring in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan Helsley for me is maybe the most underrated closer in baseball because what he has done in terms of a consistent output has been near unbelievable for a closer.
[SPEAKER_03]: This guy over his last four years, a one, two, five ERA, he was amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: He finished what, twelve in cyan voting.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then twenty three, thirty three appearances at a two, four, five.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was hurt and he still had a two, four.
[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty four, last year led the national league and saves in sixty six and a thirty at a two, four ERA.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this year in thirty four innings, he's got a three, one, eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Over his last four, his highest ERA's been a three, one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Reliefers don't happen to be come back here system.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's it's getting he's getting them a top one hundred caliber talent.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just I want something what they would want.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I think I think I think medium.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, cheering to ran of the Boston Red Sox.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who the fuck knows, dude?
[SPEAKER_04]: But I will say
[SPEAKER_04]: For all of the disarray that the Red Sox appeared to be in, for an organization that was falling apart from within.
[SPEAKER_04]: Seems to be all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy what happens when you got a ton of talent on the roster.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and maybe some of those moves didn't suck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the devours when I'm really coming around.
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like devours, but it's like positive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Getting them out of there.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's aging like fine wine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, I don't know because, look,
[SPEAKER_04]: You're watching Roman Anthony blossom into a star right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's playing right field left field now.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not deaching nearly as much, but if he has to deach every three games right now, so be it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What were you at?
[SPEAKER_03]: If it's not the Padre Zero, I think it's one and done.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Craig Breslow is answering Prelor's phone calls for the sole purpose of talking about his revised gerendoran offers.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if he doesn't like it, then he's not going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it Leo de Vries today?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Call me when it's Leo de Vries and if Prelor doesn't call again, then okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, or, you know, there's this complex deal that, I mean, the red socks are playing such a good ball right now that maybe there's a complex deal where an arm goes the other way from the bullpen or from the rotation.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what could interest me?
[SPEAKER_03]: A swap where you go to ran and then San Diego ships a rise and like four others.
[SPEAKER_04]: like prospects.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, prospects.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, I mean, that couldn't, where does the rise fit in?
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess he's playing some, some first base instead of Toro or just kind of having them in this like versatile role.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I mean, they could just take on that money.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just have it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You'd have a ton of depth there could work.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wonder what what would they want to address?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because now it sounds like they're going to be buyers to a degree.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which means Chapman's staying.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're maybe adding to the bullpen.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's where maybe you can get, you know, David Morgan or whoever that then plugs into that bullpen immediately for you and then some other prospect pieces.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm fascinated by that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the ran in general,
[SPEAKER_04]: I just, I feel like you don't want to just trade him just to trade him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we have too many of these, so we're going to move him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's, that's the challenge there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as it's shaking out right now, I think they're in an okay spot, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not like Christian Campbell's knocking the door down.
[SPEAKER_04]: That guy's finishing the yarn trip away.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that part's sorted out a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got young hitters here, too, that Marcelo Meyer could hit a little bit of oil.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who knows what happens with Roman Anthony if you make the postseason?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you need a vet bat if you're trying to move it here, and this could be a trade you make in the offseason with the control that Duran has.
[SPEAKER_04]: I say, well, I think, well, I think the most talked about trade rumors for a player that's probably not going to get traded.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I say, low to Padre's and zero to everybody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think it's at five, ten percent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know who else would pull that off.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Seth Lugo.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Kansas City Royals.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say passing included boobitch in his article and he had boobitch at fifteen percent.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have it at zero zero.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it all star with several years of control left.
[SPEAKER_03]: Seth Lugo for me is a more interesting topic.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I think I. I mean, how you you've got to be honest with yourself is an organization here and it's not like you're I mean, Lugo's your guy, but.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you can still for the most part.
[SPEAKER_04]: try to piece it together and move forward, but I think once Reagan's was pretty much out for the year and once the offense just never really showed any signs of life.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a hard offense to watch.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I will say I like watching my Cal Garcia play baseball.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's fun to watch him play defensively, but that offense outside of Bobby Witt is next to nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's legit bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think you have to be honest with yourself.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're just not going to fix this situation.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's not like they have one of the strongest farm systems in baseball.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's high and you take that and run.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to get a hall form making fifteen this year.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you inherit about six and he's got a player option of fifteen for next year.
[SPEAKER_03]: I bet he declines that.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to decline that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're getting him for for just a rental at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I still think a rental will go.
[SPEAKER_04]: is gonna get you a top one hundred guy and probably another another solid prospect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Seems like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mitch Keller of the Pittsburgh Pirates is the only pirate that I want to talk about.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think falter would be sexy for like a Detroit team, but Keller seems like the big ticket guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keller right now is making about fifteen point four.
[SPEAKER_03]: He escalates to sixteen point nine next year, eighteen point four and twenty seven and twenty point four in twenty eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of money for a Mitch Keller and I understand he's been throwing the ball decently well this year and he is kind of a tried and true innings eater.
[SPEAKER_03]: So far this year, twenty starts, hundred and nineteen innings at a three five year array.
[SPEAKER_03]: This has been Keller's best year, but he is notably one of the best pitchers and baseball on the first half.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the worst pitchers and baseball on the second half.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is falling off a cliff each the last two years and we'll see if it happens for a third year in a row.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really interesting to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is another one of those exercises where I do feel like it might be doing it just to do it, where unless you're getting a pretty significant haul, I don't know if it makes all the sense, because yes, you've got all these pitching prospects and stuff like that, but you're still waiting to see what they can do, and I mean, you have Jerry Jones hurt.
[SPEAKER_04]: Boba Chandler is hopefully going to get up soon, but you still want to fully see what he can do at the Big League level.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he has maybe at least demonstrated some more command challenges than I think we were expecting, even though he should still be up at the Big League level.
[SPEAKER_04]: Does it really makes sense to do it unless you get a pretty significant hall for a guy that does eat innings, like you need, especially when you're tapering and managing innings of all of your top prospects, pretty good to have a guy there that's going to be able to eat them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And someone has to throw the rest of the year.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're going to trade falter, you're going to trade Heney, who else is going to throw the rest of the year?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you could have herring to throw.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're a cartoon and bubble.
[SPEAKER_03]: And bubble could come up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just look at this situation for Pittsburgh, and I think they're having internal conversations.
[SPEAKER_03]: How far away truly are we?
[SPEAKER_03]: And if the answer is, we're not competing in the screens window, then you trade killer for the sake of getting out of fifteen million dollars next year and the year after.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can invest that into the offense.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and that's the thing we're talking about, the frickin' pirates here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, the team that, okay, they need to allocate more funds to offense.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably the way to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's actually what they can put your five without color.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they could survive without calmer and then allocate those funds to signing any position player that's semi competent.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I bet I bet honestly the return is pretty light, but for the sake of getting that money off the books to go pursue other avenues to spend that money, I think they can do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I put it at medium.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think you'd be surprised.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it'll be okay to pretty good return because at the end of the day, the qualifying offers twenty million dollars for, and we're seeing pictures still accept those at points.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if he's a four to one for you at a hundred and ninety five innings, a lot of teams are going to pay, of course, eighteen million dollars for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it's an
[SPEAKER_03]: decent return and may not have that clear headline or but it'll be got kind of that three solid prospects return and they take on the contract and I'm going to go medium you sold me on it though because if I'm nothing's going to say well that's fifteen million I can spend now yeah okay two more pirates real quick uh... david bednar the closer for the Pittsburgh pirates bednar the contract situation as it stands right now five point nine this year is yet one more year in control after this i think it makes all the sense in the world to move bednar he's as good as gone to me
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's, you didn't even know if you were going to be able to get another opportunity to move him, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: After how bad he looked at the start of the year, the ups and downs of last couple seasons, he's an eighteen consecutive appearance scoreless streak.
[SPEAKER_04]: Get out, get out now, get that hole.
[SPEAKER_04]: That high and I think they get a good return.
[SPEAKER_03]: He Brian Hayes, you think they move him?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I just
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's taking that contract on the Yankees?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they strike out on Gino Suarez and they are reluctant to move Lombard.
[SPEAKER_03]: At the end of the day, you get a gold glove caliber third baseman making seven this year, seven next year, seven the year after, eight the next two years at a club at twelve ahead of his age thirty three season.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's making no more than eight million dollars and it's your choice to pay him twelve and his age thirty three season in twenty thirty.
[SPEAKER_03]: You think medium.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's medium.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just if he's a five eighty OPS moving forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still pissed that I have to cut an eight hundred percent one thousand percent.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you, but there are teams out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are plenty stubborn that say we can fix him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I still lean low.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lean well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I go medium.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is more money that they can free up towards offensive upside.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they'll take no return.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they'll just take salary.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Another third basement.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan, make me into the Colorado Rockies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where you at?
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't trade anybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what are they going to do?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, they're going to move Jake Bird and that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they'll extend him.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the probability?
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you get the pass in probability on that one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me pull this up here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan, because... Let's see.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's got... He's also the same story, though.
[SPEAKER_04]: This guy's striking out thirty-two percent of the time with half his gains of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: McMahon's at forty percent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's taking on Ryan?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we did say the third base market is so bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: You do have to take a shot.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you, you have to pay Ryan McMahon, sixteen million and twenty, twenty, six and sixteen million, twenty, twenty, seven.
[SPEAKER_04]: Other teams are going to say, we want you to pay that down.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'd imagine that you, the Montfort's probably don't want to pay down a contract ever again after the Eranado such a show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I say low.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I say medium and the only team that I think it makes some sense for is Seattle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ryan McMahon over Ben Williams and makes a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: They might just say we have that at home for cheaper.
[SPEAKER_04]: God, you really think he's been Williams?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's starting to thirty two percent of the time at Cores Field with a seven ten OPS.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's really bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let me see the home road split real quick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh!
[SPEAKER_04]: He's hitting one eighty nine on the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: Damn it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: The thirty seven percent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I go low and movable for Ryan McMahon.
[SPEAKER_03]: You convinced me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like four more guys, real quick pictures that I find fascinating conversations.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's really low for all of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: But these were just kind of wild cards that I saw recently, Taj Bradley at the Tampa Bay raise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Toss has been a project for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: It still feels like he's a project.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the rays have a surplus of starting pictures.
[SPEAKER_03]: It seems like Bradley could be the one on the move when I thought it was just a slam dunk that Zach let tell was gone and that would be that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not the case anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of it seems would be lining up to call about Toss Bradley.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's an interesting one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously it's it's low, but the rays are the rays and it's not like you would go backwards by
[SPEAKER_04]: by moving him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you could argue that getting consistent innings to a Joe Boyle or some of the other guys could be just as intriguing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I going to say it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or are you going to say it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he'd be way further along by now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, because you get those starts though.
[SPEAKER_04]: You get the tantalizing starts.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I do think that the race probably look at it and say, yes, he's still just twenty four years old, but it's still that fastball rolling.
[SPEAKER_04]: the rest of the secondaries are okay, and when he's on, you can be dominant, but when he's not, he gets knocked around.
[SPEAKER_04]: They might just say, there might not be much more to squeeze out here, and this might just be who he is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree, I thought he'd be further along by now too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they could get a nice, nice hall for him, and true race fashion, and they're not fully selling, because they could still
[SPEAKER_04]: Yo, selling by at the same time, they could feel more comfortable moving some other prospects to go get other things that they may need.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then three A's pictures to tie a bowl on this episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: Louis Severino is making twenty million dollars this year, twenty five next year in a player option that twenty two million dollars the year after that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was three for sixty seven.
[SPEAKER_03]: Seven is throwing the ball pretty darn well with the A's.
[SPEAKER_03]: He interests me from a big market perspective.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, not that the A's ever care about optics, but how does it look to sign a guy like the biggest contract ever in franchise history and then move him within the first year of that contract, but he's also thrown you under the bus.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, was that like was there validity to that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like did we see that on record anywhere or was that just a nightingale?
[SPEAKER_04]: This is this is what I'm hearing thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But here's the other side of it, too, that you could hide behind.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did not it's not even hide behind.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think just just lean into.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just six, six, eight, a ray at home and a three, one on the road.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you can just throw your hands up and say, he's just not a candidate to work here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's funny, like saying, you guys are five, one, a ray is throwing the ball pretty darn well, but that's what he's doing away from Sacramento.
[SPEAKER_04]: Three, one, oh, away from Sacramento, which is like what he was last year.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think medium because of that, for his sake, he probably did throw them onto the bus.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you're pitching in a minor league stadium that you also get sheldon, but then you're great everywhere else.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd be pretty pissed too, but also you knew what you signed up for, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I think medium.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I go medium to high.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think there are a lot of really good fits here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Detroit is a really good fit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Chicago is a really good fit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean whoever else was in on him, you pretty much can just get right back in and you didn't have to pay for the first half of this year.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know how much he's going to cost because at the end of the day he's already on the other side of thirty and he's making a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like if the cubs were to go pursue that, I'm thinking it's honestly similar to what it would cost like a Merrill Kelly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and you are a hostage of a player option there, too, where like if he sucks in twenty six, now you're on the hook for another twenty two million and twenty seven from the player option, I would hate acquiring those because it's like he has hedge of the downside you don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: The downside that gets compounded by the player option.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if he throws well, you lose that extra year of control.
[SPEAKER_04]: If he throws poorly, you're hostage.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think the return would be significant.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think
[SPEAKER_04]: I am sure the A's would love to move off that money even though they committed to spending it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: How about J.P.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sears?
[SPEAKER_03]: Left-hander.
[SPEAKER_03]: Final year of pre-R is got three years of arbitration in front of him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rosenthal reported that the A's are listening on J.P.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sears.
[SPEAKER_03]: That intrigued me a hell of a lot more than Jeffrey Springs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sears' numbers on the year are not very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nine starts at home at a five-six.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eleven starts on the road at a four-eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Sears, the talent is clearly there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there are plenty of middle market teams that would like to take on that project of J.P.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sears.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, who throws for them next year.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's their picture then?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's my only thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: They attacked the free agent market again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see it being a rinse and repeat.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the no one's going to want to sign there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think low, because you're going to need to be overwhelmed and who's going to overwhelm for a picture with those numbers at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's more likely that they move a springs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I was ready to say medium, but I'll go low.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I like the idea of a team acquiring seers.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do too, especially if you put him in a comery car somewhere where then he can pitch to contact more confidently.
[SPEAKER_04]: I definitely think that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: How much are you going to give up for JP seers at the end of the day enough to pry him away from a team who may need him more than anybody?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably a guy that you just write out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the last one, his name started to circulate again on Sunday and Monday, Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_03]: I view it as five percent, like zero, zero, but it's clear.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've got a really exciting offense, but they're still incredibly far off.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you tread all those other guys to not trade, Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what do you have?
[SPEAKER_04]: You have three more years.
[SPEAKER_03]: After this one, Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you can get two or three big league ready starters, oh, maybe one big league starter already.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if you can get, if you can get something, it's a crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're asking for pitching in return for Mason Miller.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like you're asking for more bats.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think very low, but you can't rule it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just also think he's been slightly more burned by the long ball this year because of where he's pitching.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think teams are gonna care too too much about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think low, it would be tough, optically.
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, I don't think they really care.
[SPEAKER_04]: I still lean towards low.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you need to force that one unless someone just blows you away.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if the Dodgers came, we're doing this to wrap.
[SPEAKER_03]: I promise like this is the only time I'm gonna make you put on your tinfoil hat.
[SPEAKER_03]: If the Dodgers came calling for Mason Miller, and they said we're gonna give you Emmett Sheen, Jackson Ferris, and Kintaro.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you say?
[SPEAKER_03]: Deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not unrealistic for the Dodgers to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I say deal, just because
[SPEAKER_04]: The injury history is a reliever at the end of the day on a team that's far off.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I'd be skewing towards deal there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's one that I feel like neither fan base is pissed about because it's not like you're losing a depolar hope.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just got that done without that.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's probably your best starter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like that guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: People forget how good this dude is when he's healthy and he's already starting to show it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ferris is
[SPEAKER_04]: right there with gauge jump is your best pitching prospect and and Jamie Arnold now too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you you get terrible becomes your best position player prospect at this point far away.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with current graduate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no doubt.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's tough to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's our episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got everybody done in an hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: So trade likelihood episode done.
[SPEAKER_03]: No episode tomorrow episode on Thursday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we have the final winding down of our charity auction.
[SPEAKER_04]: As I mentioned, Ellie, my wonderful girlfriend painted these incredible canvases.
[SPEAKER_04]: You may have seen them on social.
[SPEAKER_04]: The proceeds go to each player's charity of choice or their personal foundation.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the link is in the episode description.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're just frankly like, can't really going for way less than they should given that they're autographed and JSA authenticated.
[SPEAKER_04]: We would love to raise a little bit more money for each of those players into visual charities.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Ellie put
[SPEAKER_04]: of forty plus hours into each of the canvases.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what would love for you guys to check those out?
[SPEAKER_04]: And hopefully something that we'll continue to do moving forward that links in the episode description.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're also going to have Griffin Conan on at the end of the week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Marlons out, Fielder, of course, that we'll get a little bit of an update.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's throwing today.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's exciting.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll get a little bit of an update on how he's feeling.
[SPEAKER_04]: Talk a little bit about the Marlons, but also they were just going to talk ball.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's just turning to guys naming dudes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And to finally be really fun too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and to fun announcements with Griff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're going to be doing something cool down here very soon around the top's chrome release.
[SPEAKER_04]: So stay tuned for that as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he's going to be doing and ask me anything in the discord as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you join the discord, get an opportunity to just talk some ball with him and we're going to be doing that with more players moving forward as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: That link, of course, is in the episode description as well.