[SPEAKER_01]: Just to talk about the I do read, then thanks Christian and I'll avoid, then move down to the top buildings, holiday or a round of the things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great needs to take a break to pee, took the nerds out of film history, doing tone up on a hunky horn, their idiots.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we're going.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is this?
[SPEAKER_04]: What movie?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, what are we doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing here?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is all this shit?
[SPEAKER_04]: What is going on?
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, allow me to tell you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome everybody to another episode of chew bubble gum and kick ass We're here today to talk about the second movie in our guilty as charged Thank you very much
[SPEAKER_04]: That's some A plus, yes, Andy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mine is to the tune of the Simpsons Barbershop Quartet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Baby on board.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm hearing in my head.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is Tucker's pick, Jagged Edge.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was wondering which of you guys to fucking lamb bastard this election.
[SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't really remember because I was saying to Tucker before we started recording.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like,
[SPEAKER_04]: This is very much feels like a movie dealing with a fix.
[SPEAKER_05]: No way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: I agree that it does fall in that like general category, but no way.
[SPEAKER_08]: It seems like a movie that you would have remembered being good in nineteen eighty five yes having not revisited it the hundred percent you know and I feel like that's why Tucker picked it forty years yeah even like more so because I was it was probably eighty six because it was video and my dad we were at my uncle's house and they had rented this oh god and I was so I was like
[SPEAKER_08]: How old was eight?
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: I was like eight years old.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you're exposed to it kind of passively that way.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and you were watching it and the opening scene was the the POV shot coming up the stairs of the killer like I'd never seen anything like that before.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like the killer POV and that like made me all like.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, on the head of that creepy music.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it made me really uncomfortable being in the killer's shoes, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the opening scene is pretty pretty.
[SPEAKER_04]: dark and pretty brutal.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it was undercut by the fucking score.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, but I memory of this plus I knew it was like Glenn close in Jeff Bridges, like because I was already like a movie kid so I like recognized them and but it was
[SPEAKER_08]: So, I remember, so my mind mushed this all together, because I haven't seen it since, but that opening scene, I'm waiting for, because I vividly remember him taking that knife and cutting around her nipple.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's because they talked about it later.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: But my young brain put it together.
[SPEAKER_08]: Saw it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: When she was talking about it and so like when it didn't happen, I was like,
[SPEAKER_05]: You're on personal my dollar on here Yeah, it was like oh I didn't see that that's weird.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, here's here's like I Watched this movie sometime in the last four years.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's say oh and Because I've been listening or I was listening to you must remember this That podcast about like Hollywood history stuff and she was doing
[SPEAKER_05]: erotic, you know, sexy eighties and arrived in nine, whatever it is, I watched the listen, I watched the series, I listened the series back to back, and so when she got to this episode about jagged edge, she's like, if you haven't watched it, you should pause down, but so I watched it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever, listen to podcasts, blah, blah, a couple of years ago.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then you hit play again, and she was like, unless you like good movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever, point being, I watched it some time in the last few years.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: When we started it here and I started watching it I was like I am
[SPEAKER_05]: zero memory of this movie so much so that I was like did I I must have just thought that I paused the show and watch the movie and I just never bothered but then it's the movie unfolded I was like oh you watch it all started coming back and I was like that's how just junk food this movie is that I just like consume the entire thing listen to a whole podcast deconstructing it and then within a couple years as
[SPEAKER_05]: utterly comfortable my fucking brain.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's a pretty middle of the road.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I don't know about middle.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know about middle.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's not good.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, it's not good.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying it's just like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Disposable totally disposable.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_05]: This movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just good enough to have found some like moderate success in
[SPEAKER_08]: I feel like it was a hit.
[SPEAKER_08]: I feel like I don't know how big a hit, but Robert Loja was nominated for the supporting game.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can see that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's doing stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's barely in the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's what a supporting actor is.
[SPEAKER_05]: I, well, I mean, I mean, like people have what, what's their duty, duty, dance one for Shakespeare and love and she was in the movie for six minutes, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, yeah, there, that happens all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, but like, he's like, and that's not a main character at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, he's at, it best fifth.
[SPEAKER_05]: right and well there's that and it's not like he's not fourth I guess he's not doing anything he does a lot dude he he he he he tells us from the very beginning he's he reveals the entire plot we just he then just moved like acting wise you know what I mean
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know compared to what all of them are doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's doing some stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's just doing Robert Logis stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just mean it's nothing like crazy for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nobody's doing anything special.
[SPEAKER_04]: What I mean is is like his performance in this movie, standing out enough to get an Academy Award, seems, a nomination.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just seems like, are you looking at it up right now?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, other people were nominated.
[SPEAKER_05]: It could have been a pretty conform.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pretty simple year.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: True.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was, um, I don't know that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's play out of that for cousin.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that sounds right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, but that also doesn't close in it, didn't it?
[SPEAKER_08]: No, that's my style street.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, here's the nominees for Best Supporting Actor in nineteen nineteen March twenty-fourth nineteen eighty-six fifty-eight the Academy Award.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, go.
[SPEAKER_08]: And the nominees are.
[SPEAKER_08]: Carrick Roberts for runaway train.
[SPEAKER_08]: I like that movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: I like that movie too, but again, that's not okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's not a great movie.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a pretty good movie.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_08]: Just watch it like three weeks.
[SPEAKER_08]: Here it goes like a month and a half ago.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, well, you've already forgotten to have to move either.
[SPEAKER_08]: William Hickey for Pritzie's honor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Priszy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, remember William Hickey isn't he Pritzzy?
[SPEAKER_08]: Isn't William Hickey that I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_08]: He's a bad guy.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's when he had it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: The grandpa and the person's vacation.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: He won, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: The blessing.
[SPEAKER_08]: That guy.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, he did not win.
[SPEAKER_08]: Clouse Maria Branduer for out of Africa.
[SPEAKER_08]: Robert Losa for Jagged Edge ever here of it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oscar nominated film, Jagged Edge, and the winner, Donna Meachie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cook who from cocoon, of course.
[SPEAKER_05]: Got damn cocoon was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I remember loving it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh man, I've not seen that movie in so... I think I saw it a couple times that year.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I saw it in the theater a couple times.
[SPEAKER_08]: I was super into that.
[SPEAKER_08]: I made some cool cocoon vines back when we had vine.
[SPEAKER_08]: Remember vine?
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I remember vine.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've made some good ones of this tiktok.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is really weird, you know, that they're all like younger than us, basically, in that movie now.
[SPEAKER_08]: Definitely younger than me, younger than you, but they all look eighty-nine.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_08]: Fucking Wilford Brimley's after they've like visited the aliens and they're all invigorated in shit and they're all horny.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he's like getting the, he comes to the shower, it is wife's in the shower and he's like,
[SPEAKER_08]: on some candy little girl.
[SPEAKER_08]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then he's walking with Donna Meachie and the other guy, humor, humor, and they're walking and he's like, they're talking about getting boners and he's like, he's like, you got a boner and he goes, cat couldn't scratch it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I was like, these are awesome isolated with Wilford Brimley talking about boners and basically modern day, you know, people, we're all just sitting on that cocoon at this point, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: We've all got that because everybody is all invigorated in their fifties now.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Basically, the aliens must have touched us all.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: That is just boners for everybody.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cat can't fucking scratch it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to catch the scratch my bone.
[SPEAKER_05]: What does that look?
[SPEAKER_08]: What does that look?
[SPEAKER_08]: It's so hard that a cat can't even scratch.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's impervious.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a fucking rock hard cock.
[SPEAKER_08]: That guy's cock.
[SPEAKER_08]: Will for brimly's cock is rock hard.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's my new punk band.
[SPEAKER_08]: Will for brimly's cock.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess I just don't think of something in our first album.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think of that as like scratches.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is that comparison there?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know because all I can picture is something that's just toward a shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like to cats have like extremely strong scratching abilities.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I mean, they seem to live.
[SPEAKER_05]: They get their fucking claws into something that they want to scratch all the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they like we got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: You've got cats you've experienced that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I guess I just mean that like no, that's not the go to they come to a rock hard cock it like refer to the granite or something not the cat that can't screw like it
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't tell Brimley how to talk or a cat wouldn't scratch it like I feel like scratch a rock.
[SPEAKER_04]: You say like you could cut diamonds with it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, something known for being a guard a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, good and scratch it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cat couldn't scratch it.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he's just talking about because he has sex with cats.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_04]: Awful.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell me about it.
[SPEAKER_08]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_08]: That got seen.
[SPEAKER_08]: That cat was the best lay I ever had.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Steve Jagged Edge.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to get it back to, yeah, let's talk about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's too.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's talking about it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so how many people were I meant to look at the how many people were listed as screenwriters on this one just one for Joe Esther House.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, oh, yeah, it's a Joe Esther house.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's part of what it was during him.
[SPEAKER_08]: She was going through all the Esther houses.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's what he's going into basic instant here at this point.
[SPEAKER_08]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_04]: and Richard Marquand to directed it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Return of the Jedi.
[SPEAKER_08]: Return of the Jedi poster on the kids wall.
[SPEAKER_05]: It has the feeling of significant re-writes in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like it has the feel of needing significant re-writes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it has the feeling of multiple passes, I guess, as what I mean, like the two or three misdirects towards the end of the movie feel like remnants of earlier version parts of the feel like remnants of an earlier version of the script that remained but no longer feel quite as consistent with the rest of the story anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, but when you're looking, maybe it does feel like that, but when you're looking at frickin' Joe Esther House or House or House, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Esther House, when you're looking at his, uh, Oovera?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Was this before I feel like this?
[SPEAKER_04]: This is before before, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I, I feel you, that's part of what you like.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like he's like an exceptional writer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_08]: To a showgirls.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's the best script he ever wrote.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean no where it all runs pretty good John Claude Van Dam.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, okay, where you fried the motorcycle.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the one I'm thinking of doing this puts?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Kevin Costner and Gene Hackman, he's a spy.
[SPEAKER_05]: No way.
[SPEAKER_04]: No way.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what I mean to say is just that like it's maybe this movie feels like it was real had like, you know, it lost stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like when you're looking at the pedigree of the people behind the scenes, it's not like they're exceptional filmmakers.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So to me, it's like this is just what what it was intended to be sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did uninspired and just like kind of it workhorse director comes in and makes it and it's not well I don't think I wonder if I wonder I mean probably not but I want it it could have also functional the way that like Jeff Bridges performs the way they all act
[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he withheld the last ten pages of the script or however many from the actors until like they got to that point in the shooting right like the black hole like they did that with the black hole they wouldn't the actors didn't know where it was going to how it was going to end
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh boy, how do we get out of this?
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll finally show it on the page.
[SPEAKER_05]: I shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_05]: He's a good actor.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's selling the whole year on board with the guy the whole time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess my impression of this movie and this type of movie is that I wouldn't really necessarily give the filmmakers that much credit.
[SPEAKER_04]: That they would be
[SPEAKER_05]: other than even like putting that much thought or effort into it you know what I mean I mean I guess they did hire they have good actors in the movie yeah for what it is that's a good actor so yeah Peter coyote Peter coyote oh my I expect in him to be well and yeah oh my god
[SPEAKER_04]: Well Joe like Joe usher house before this had done flash dance and like sure that's you know it's terrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know but it was a pretty popular movie so it like makes sense that he would be able to like he made maybe hits yeah, yeah, yeah But but what's written on the page there.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, that's your house is greatest shit
[SPEAKER_04]: because the tough thing with it with jagged edge is that like the mystery is not very.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it's so like telegraphed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can see it coming from like the very beginning of the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, especially because Victor lojas just says.
[SPEAKER_05]: He did it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Loseha or no, uh, he did Robert even before even before even before that like pretty much from the very beginning.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like this movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it only exists so that they can have the surprise at the end that it what he was guilty.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like there's been so that's too much rope has been done so well, okay, so that's a question I was immediately timing Yeah, well, and that's because we've we've all watched enough TV This it feels kind of primitive honestly yeah as far as like legal stuff goes because I think we've said so much
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say is like so in nineteen eighty five where we I mean there were already forty years of television like yeah, like Perry Mason yeah with drama yeah, there's lots of room dramas, but I don't know how Those were all formulaics.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if maybe the whole trope had become
[SPEAKER_05]: that this, maybe this was more unexpected at the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I'm trying to say.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it was.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know either.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not really because the verdict came out the same year, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a couple of years before.
[SPEAKER_08]: And we're like kind of leading into like fatal traction territory, which hasn't quite happened yet.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's the next year.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so we're this movie's not erotic enough to get us to there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's not interesting.
[SPEAKER_08]: And they also don't employ like because it could have like gone for more like
[SPEAKER_08]: uh horror movie field with like the killers, the POB stuff at the beginning, but they don't go far enough with that.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it all just kind of ends up being kind of, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it feels like an extended version of a TV drama is what it feels like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or it kind of feels like a made for basic cable.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like TBS, TNT.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, what would be there twenty something years later?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it definitely feels like it would fit in like
[SPEAKER_04]: If it would have been made twenty years later, it would have been just fine with those.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I don't to my feeling toward us and like seeing kind of like the reviews from the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't I don't get the impression that people maybe like average audiences were, but maybe like it was it was like savvy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it probably just kind of came out and it was like a pop-gorn movie you go out on a date and yeah, the hundred percent that's all this is good for and it's in it predates home video I mean I guess home video was picking up but it wasn't the industry like it wasn't part of the the foundation of the industry yet was it
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I was renting movies constantly then but I don't I don't think that it was the same like you you didn't like I was renting from Everywhere I rented there was like one or two copies of a movie was it was like pre-chains
[SPEAKER_04]: There wasn't like the market right I hadn't become like a market it was just like people would like that's what I mean So video that you reserve a cop right but it had it hadn't couldn't yeah, so that's what I mean is so the business model hadn't been put in place exactly fully exploit the market
[SPEAKER_05]: Which, which also carried with it almost a commitment to making things a little, I mean, I want to say smarter, but like there's so many holes in this movie that if you're just watching it in one sitting in a movie theater than you walk away, you're not gonna really just be like, okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: But being able to watch it, pause it, like, I wonder, did you guys watch it in one sitting?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I did, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, because I didn't this time, and I like walked away a couple times, because I was like, this is interminable, like, I can't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it just maybe like be able to think on things.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I just, I think that detracts from the experience of just being able to like kind of give yourself over to the movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing is, if it's going to be dumb, it has to be more exciting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: It can't be, it can't be this dull.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I had a pause.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I watched this not enough going on.
[SPEAKER_08]: But it's also like, like I said, it's like one of those, like, I was just lounging on the couch and mid afternoon.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: After the afternoon, just like, oh, whatever.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_08]: And you know, I was
[SPEAKER_08]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's entertaining enough.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I wasn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: I felt that way.
[SPEAKER_05]: I watched it up until he forgettable.
[SPEAKER_05]: Watch it up until like when he kisses her.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, okay, I gotta walk away for a while.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm getting fucking pissed.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because you know that part at the end.
[SPEAKER_08]: Don't give it away.
[SPEAKER_08]: Spoiler alert not the very end, but when she finds the typewriter Yeah, oh my god, there's a moment.
[SPEAKER_08]: She finds a typewriter You guys you guys have all seen one loose string.
[SPEAKER_08]: They haven't come yet So she figures out he's the killer and she takes the typewriter She takes it back to her house.
[SPEAKER_08]: She has her running with him and trying to get her car started and he
[SPEAKER_08]: doesn't see the typewriter and it's oh I guess and I was like I assumed he saw my key saw but he didn't but anyway she drives home and she gets out of the car she runs in she throws down the typewriter on the stairs with her jacket and she runs up the stairs and then she's running down the hallway she ripped her shirt off yeah next shot she's in the shower just
[SPEAKER_05]: She's gonna scrub all that fucking serial killer Yeah, it's ridiculous Yeah, it's like man.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've never seen anyone act filthy more
[SPEAKER_04]: except for Ace Ventura.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, Ace Ventura is a pet detective when he might be gay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she might have done something gay.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, when Finkle was iron horned.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what that means.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, do you see?
[SPEAKER_04]: You've never seen Ace Ventura pet detective?
[SPEAKER_07]: Of course not he says.
[SPEAKER_05]: Of course not.
[SPEAKER_05]: I hated that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course not.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hated that character.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hated Jim Carrey then.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hated it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's definitely problematic, but we're probably going to have to find a reason to watch.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm sure I'll appreciate it now that I've got distance and seen Jim Carrey do things that are not fucking.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm impossible.
[SPEAKER_08]: I liked your carry from living color and living color.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I see.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought he was obnoxious and annoying.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like this guy should not be being supported and entertained.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we saw Ace for sure.
[SPEAKER_08]: Celebrated for the shooting day before everybody was doing it.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it was still just that.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I thought it was really funny, dumb, but really funny.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then like the sequel came out and I was like,
[SPEAKER_08]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's as if he's doing an impression of himself.
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's not funny now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Who's really weird?
[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't find except him, you know, coming out of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Coming out of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Revisual nature calls.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think my guess is, now that I've got years that I'm not as like, well, we're going to do another double feature round.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we got to do sequels like first and second, see which ones hold up the best?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to do every grit saying it Anyway, yeah everything the okay we have to talk about the guilty as charged of it for sure because he is I mean something hits it like but the nail on the head any harder than this the the way
[SPEAKER_01]: The way you get to as charged.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, what is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Where do we do it?
[SPEAKER_04]: The legal proceedings happen in in Jagged.
[SPEAKER_04]: Especially coming up a real estate.
[SPEAKER_04]: My cousin Vinnie.
[SPEAKER_08]: My cousin Vinnie's way better at the actual court style.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think she's like has no fucking idea.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, it was an ideal discovery.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, because Peter Coyote's DA character has with the evidence before.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I want to make sure that's not happening.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then finally, she gets the floor and she's like, I'd like to call someone so and he's like, find out.
[SPEAKER_07]: What is happening?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I ask you guys a question?
[SPEAKER_04]: This is important for guilty as charge, because they say it in almost every legal movie drama, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have no idea what it means, what objection move to strike.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it just means that whatever was just commented needs to be removed from the record.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I've never absorbed how that's humanly possible because then they go the jury is to ten they didn't hear that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, which is like.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so they're going to go to the right thing like well.
[SPEAKER_05]: We heard him say that he did all these things, but they said, no, we're not supposed to take that into account.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, well, I guess, I guess we won't.
[SPEAKER_05]: We won't.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's so many times that throughout the legal proceedings where I'm like, this trial.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm mistrial.
[SPEAKER_04]: So many, so many things that are a mistrial.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and the other thing, I was struck in this watching at least, I don't remember my experience of watching it before, so maybe I have this thing about that time.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is,
[SPEAKER_05]: Eight years before O.J.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the idea of like they've got this guy wrapped up like the evidence is just like right there and it's gonna be no problems.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the idea of this like show trial where a guy gets off feels novel.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, and then it happens in real life a few years later where the the dea just fucking shits the bed and like being able to pin someone who's clearly done the fucking murdering.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did the murdering.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did the murdering okay, so jab crudges What do we need to say what the planet is fucking movie is?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, he's right and then he's the movie opens with his wife getting murdered and And then he gets because for it won because jab crudges is so affable and in like charming as an audience you're just predisposed to believe he didn't do it and then he is so charming that
[SPEAKER_04]: recently divorced I feel like recently divorced Glenn close you know the thing about him being like so charming and like you know handsome and stuff is that like the movie wouldn't make sense if he didn't do it you know what I mean like you can't have a beat that like nice kind of like exuding nice guy energy and then at the end of it be like
[SPEAKER_04]: And he actually was innocent.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like right then what was the point of all of it was?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I feel like nice guy got tried for something they didn't do and got off Scott free and now he's in level with gun close.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like what the fuck are we watching?
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, if it was I feel like maybe it was Wallace Sean who's that inconceivable you know Wallace Sean I did it with.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: What if he was the lead in this movie?
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_05]: He would be guilty.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, he guilty on that he's so but either make it like no or make his character little more nefarious behaving like oh like you have to you do question a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I I said it would be surprising either way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, but I feel like they were trying to do that with the tennis pro.
[SPEAKER_05]: but then it was so clumsily done and like that guy being such a, you know, just so deep shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you're gonna, like you're gonna freak out and court like that and call the prosecuting or defense attorney a bitch on the stand.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then like threatened to assault her that night in the parking garage, like you couldn't be making it more clear that I'm the guy who's probably did it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like make that more like the audience has to like try and figure that out.
[SPEAKER_04]: They make it so obvious.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so obvious that you're just like, okay, of course it's not him because it's way too.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're making it way too obvious.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That like this is right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what so if they were making that less obvious than Jeff Bridges being so affable would still function.
[SPEAKER_05]: and lean more into like oh my god this guy is getting real-roaded and there's like evidence after evidence and it's just circumstantial but it's all piling up and then something like that yeah I would say the only the only part of this entire story in the entire script that like stands out is like good to me is the dynamics between Glenn close in her ex-husband
[SPEAKER_05]: because that is so, what you expect to see and is so against type, you divorced couple and raising their kids and I appreciated that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really didn't like everywhere where you would, every other movie the trope would be like antagonism.
[SPEAKER_05]: they got each other's backs in a really sweet way that just made you like I love these guys he like at the end he tells her to go get late like he's like I don't have anyone to celebrate with he's like yeah you do yeah yeah I happen to know that news is on right now
[SPEAKER_05]: you and I are talking and I'm watching the news and that's the guy who's throwing you the high-hard one cat couldn't scratch it and not only that he seems to be talking about you on TV right now yeah um I got these kids out of here for you but on the flip side that little boy or her son character
[SPEAKER_05]: That kid is annoying, and he needs to stop acting.
[SPEAKER_08]: That kid from adventures of Ford Fairlane with Androgyne.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it really?
[SPEAKER_05]: They just amazing kids are lying, but I recognize that kid.
[SPEAKER_05]: But what they have him doing is so obnoxious.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's so just like knock it off.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: The kid's like, got his head on sideways.
[SPEAKER_05]: I also like, I hope he's guilty.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have time for me.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love the part when it's Christ.
[SPEAKER_05]: They first start
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm gonna head on that kid, but better on sideways, so we understand that he's just a little kid.
[SPEAKER_08]: They first start smooching and he takes her home.
[SPEAKER_08]: They were horseback riding.
[SPEAKER_04]: The horseback riding, we have to come back.
[SPEAKER_05]: But this whole thing, her car is dead at his house and he's like, I'll give you a jump and he's like, why don't you just give me a ride home?
[SPEAKER_05]: What?
[SPEAKER_05]: So now she's stranded there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's my point.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like so he gives her a ride home and now she's going to take a cab back out there.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's going to get her a little bit.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's going to get an Uber in like forty years.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's any number of ways to get him back at the house so that the kid can see them smooching.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: have him have given her like picture up in driven out there and then comes back in his car's dad and he has to like call a cab or something but like or who gives a fuck if the kids sees that they're smooching if that's not important and also like the kids like the kids reaction he does go and tell us dad about it the next day but when he comes down and he's like hey and he sees him smooching and he's like oh sorry and then he just goes away
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I was oddly weird.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it didn't serve any point other than I guess to make it clear to the ex husband that she's got and this gave us that great scene where he calls her and says he called pretty.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's like, um, if I like someone, I'm going to bring him home.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he's like, yeah, yeah, I'll talk to him and demand this weekend.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mama's got to get some people alone.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know he's my favorite character.
[SPEAKER_04]: He might be a contender for best actor and all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're just kidding.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, because Mr. House is best writing.
[SPEAKER_04]: He just feels like a good dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, just a good dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like even that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know,
[SPEAKER_04]: The divorce, that feels like a real thing that maybe like his, he was a child of divorce, but like his parents may be were able to, like, stay on good terms.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he wanted to just like put that out into the world.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like what you normally should be doing as a divorced parent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, like you, you're.
[SPEAKER_04]: And obviously, you know, it's hard to make it work that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and a lot of relationships don't.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I want to say, as we're talking about how terrific that is, like, actually,
[SPEAKER_05]: depending on where they are in there like, I mean, she's sort of just started seeing this guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's, you wouldn't be out of, out of pocket to be like, hey, don't necessarily bring a guy around the kids to this like important relation.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like in the language of her so cool.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like makes me feel like it's been a little bit.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like there were said, no, I'm not saying it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not talking about the time between there really.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_05]: when you start a new relationship and you have children and you don't bring your guy or bring him around and tell you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and so like I would have appreciated not that it's not a day.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, this isn't my boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is just an attempt to excuse murderers.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is just a guy who I'm I work for and I'm going to start following him.
[SPEAKER_05]: You might be a serial killer.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but it's not been weird.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at his package.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I know what you mean.
[SPEAKER_05]: It would have been, it would have also been like even adding to that of him being like, is this guy, you know, like, yeah, and her being like, yeah, no, I really, I feel like.
[SPEAKER_08]: Don't worry, he just, he only murders full grown women.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: The kids are safe.
[SPEAKER_08]: The kids are fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: The kids are fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's not going to murder unless they're home when he comes to murder me, but just, but there's no precedent for that either.
[SPEAKER_08]: We just have another woman.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it could just be the woman part.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a maid.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, that's it's just me.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm only putting myself at risk here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and she brings the kids with her the first time she goes to meet him, which also makes no sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where are we?
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, my little house.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: But it's a big fancy house.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it's all right.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, alleged.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, and the kids like, and that means he's going to get.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the choices throughout the movie are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's not the idea that she starts making out with them and start sleeping with them.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's
[SPEAKER_04]: That's crazy that is bonkers and there's no even if there's wool between them right like she's just like he I don't I believe he's innocent but like you want the movie to be like well she says that but this you really believe that you know but then when they start the relationship she's like kisses them and then she's like
[SPEAKER_02]: And now let's go horseback ride.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's fucking wild.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no thing of like, yeah, what kind of feeling conflicted about it?
[SPEAKER_05]: There was, there was a moment where he does something and we see from the look on her face that she now believes in him.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't remember what it was.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's before that happens.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's doing something like when it's when she goes to him to go like oh, that's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: She watches his reaction Okay, that's right and she believes it and it's crazy cuz I'm watching it and I'm like I don't believe it.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's very clearly.
[SPEAKER_08]: He did it
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, well, this guy did it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess it's like the worst crying in like cinema history.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's it's completely dry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's no tears and he's just like
[SPEAKER_02]: He sounds like junk from Goonies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I came over here and I saw that word on the wall.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a bitch.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw it and then the cops came and I blamed it on the dog.
[SPEAKER_08]: I she's like, oh, I get it.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's what it was.
[SPEAKER_08]: It is since like the first time they get together to really discuss the case.
[SPEAKER_08]: They're having a candle light.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, yeah, there's another kid to light.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a bucket of champagne.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they're drinking champagne and eating Chinese food.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, like, and I'm like, what are the batteries that this is like, she's sitting on a bed right there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I hear no sense, especially because she's coming off a case.
[SPEAKER_04]: with that basically like ended her career well she ended she ended it right but because of the ethics of the yeah like the unethical way that the the DA won the case and she immediately starts like blurring boundaries yeah with her client
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, oh, so you learned nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing about the ethics of what it takes to be a lawyer.
[SPEAKER_08]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like there should be more way more like seduction, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like she should be way more like buttoned up and like hard line, like I will not let this cross the boundary.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that way when it does cross the boundary, it's like, it's exciting and significant.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like she is right away.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I think drinking and having Chinese food with her client.
[SPEAKER_05]: that's not I mean that the romantic element of it is what's it's I mean sitting in the living room.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like eating while they're having a good position in that setting.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like setting is no good.
[SPEAKER_08]: It should be in our office or something.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they should be in like, but we're just eating food is fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: But food, but champagne.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, like they're drinking.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it makes ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_04]: And maybe it's that if it was like a more in a different like relationship or like with her a different past for that her character it would maybe make more sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: But her coming off of like this ethical dilemma.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then she immediately like this is their first interaction and it's so like casual and like yeah, blurring the lines between client and friendship and yeah, and that's the one that makes no sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like she she would be way more on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: A jagged edge.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're not wearing it on their sleeves necessarily.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, maybe that's the reason for the kids seeing them because there's no reason for the public to know that they have this relationship, I guess.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because my point is, is if the judge caught with for that, he'd be like, counselor, you need to, yeah, remove yourself because this is not, this is not that really acceptable.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, but then it's like, you need to have better boundaries here and this is going to, you're not representing your client to the best of your abilities if you're also sleeping with them.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think at the end when, um, so after she vigorously showers,
[SPEAKER_08]: He calls it so quick shower.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he's like, what's up?
[SPEAKER_07]: She's like, I know you killed her.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's like, it's like, I'm coming over in a series of like bad choices.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then she's in for that.
[SPEAKER_08]: She calls Loja.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, what the fuck's going on?
[SPEAKER_08]: She's like, she's like, uh, and then she, and then the calm comes over her.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And she's like, it's nothing.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_08]: Cause she's realized, well, I'm, I mean, shoot him.
[SPEAKER_08]: I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, I'm going to clean up this mess.
[SPEAKER_08]: But I think what's going through it, minus like,
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh fuck.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm a terrible lawyer.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: I gotta clean this up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a good legal movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a good courtroom drama.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's very, you don't even get to the courtroom until like an hour into the movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Before that, it's just the horseback rides and a fucking dog.
[SPEAKER_04]: And a little dinner.
[SPEAKER_04]: Chinese food.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're just both eating cream of some young guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hello, one of them.
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, she's a screw.
[SPEAKER_02]: You fucking love it, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you have three election movies.
[SPEAKER_08]: These are all three Oscar-nominated movies.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is fun.
[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't think about two of these movies.
[SPEAKER_08]: One Oscar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, why?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like Robert Luzia.
[SPEAKER_04]: But when you say like the other movies that we're out, it does make more sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it wasn't a strong year.
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't like a strong, it wasn't a bad year.
[SPEAKER_08]: It wasn't for like, it was great movies that year.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, right move back to the future.
[SPEAKER_08]: But they, yeah, they all got ignored in for fucking out of Africa.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like why wouldn't fucking Crispin Glover have been nominated.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Supporting acts.
[SPEAKER_08]: It starts to great shit.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I approve of all the witness got a bunch of nominations.
[SPEAKER_08]: I meant all for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I meant great, like as far as like the movies that were nominated.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the competition season.
[SPEAKER_04]: They weren't great, but they're all so it's not like they're terrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, have you watched out of Africa?
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm talking about jagging like jagged edge and cocoon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean cocoons a little better.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, but it's kind of in the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's all kind of middling.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: They didn't really.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: They didn't nominate.
[SPEAKER_08]: He was a big venture for shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: My my kids have recently started a shit a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pwe and mystery science theater three thousand.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, the mystery science theater.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Pwe is a big one for me.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, your movie next week your movie was nominated for seven Oscars.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we're in one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's got it's got some good for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's it called?
[SPEAKER_04]: Anatomy of a murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Jimmy starts at it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, is he?
[SPEAKER_08]: I love Jimmy.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's not a man of a murder.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, why, why, why, why, why?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's laying on out of me of a murder.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's very much enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we're gonna be doing that a lot next week.
[SPEAKER_08]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the whole podcast is gonna be like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
[SPEAKER_05]: Fucker cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh stop.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's probably gonna stop it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just gonna be a faster than jagged edge.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do not it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet it's gonna be.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do not.
[SPEAKER_04]: The pace is gonna be a lot more brisk.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's gonna be a lot more visually stimulating and compelling just in general.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: John.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jagged edge.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think you have a chance in hell.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm winning this thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like not to show our cards to early, but it's going to have to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be if.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like it so it's either.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jagged edge.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't even.
[SPEAKER_05]: Does it fall under the category of a courtroom drama?
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, neither does my cousin Vinnie.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a comedy.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's not a courtroom drama courtroom movie, but that just because there's a courtroom in it doesn't make a courtroom.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know what, most of them.
[SPEAKER_08]: We just point out that he's going to always take place in the courtroom.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, it's the central focus.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that has to be the definition in order for this movie to fall into the category.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I suppose you have to say it on the case is a courtroom.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would say it's a courtroom movie, but it veers more on the side of legal thriller.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so that feels like a distinction to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just enough, I think, to be okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's not like I can completely write it off as a courtroom movie.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I'm not fighting for a win any point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm just saying it bids the category.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think questioning that's taking a little far.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's on the cost.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think it's on the cost.
[SPEAKER_08]: I feel like all courtroom movies spend a lot of time outside of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you need to reevaluate that statement.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I think I know what it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I know what it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jacket Edge is two things.
[SPEAKER_04]: So one it just takes at the movies at like an hour and forty eight minutes or something like that, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: The first half of the movie we're not in a court.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it takes a while to get there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And two, the courtroom isn't necessarily like the main thrust of the movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the main thrust of the movie is the relationship between Glenn Close and Jeff Bridges.
[SPEAKER_04]: Conversely with my cousin Vinny, the thrust of the movie is the case.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the other stuff, like the relationship with Marisa Tome and stuff, that's all kind of like,
[SPEAKER_04]: It's part of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's part of it, but it's not the main line.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it also supports it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like they don't have enough time in jagged edge doing the legal stuff that they wind up using in court.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the courtroom stuff seems to be she's not investigating the case.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: We don't get any, we don't even the party is just getting to
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and the only things that are brought up significantly outside to like show that they're working on it is Robert Losey coming in with these notes that are being left.
[SPEAKER_05]: Look what I found.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're not even doing work.
[SPEAKER_05]: Someone, someone, air quotes, someone is sending them cryptic messages, guiding them down a pass.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's not even, they're not doing courtroom stuff, or I'm sorry, legal stuff to like win the case.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no, just the one thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: She goes to the locker and talks to the locker room guy and then points out, you know, shows reasonable doubt that he had the wrong locker.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like that, that's the most like courty courtroom stuff that she does.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, and the scenes in the courtroom are like, so they're like TV courtroom.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, like, she's like, I'm not saying they're good.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, it's just, it is, but it is, but it is.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's real lame brain.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just why I'm saying it's kind of on the cost.
[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of it, it veers more a little more into the territory of just like legal thrill.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And courtroom movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Whereas like, you know, it doesn't Vinnie is like, that's a courtroom movie because like a majority of the kind of like action takes place.
[SPEAKER_04]: In the court.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know what I mean and the drama unfolds in the court room.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I I wish not I don't wish but I could see wish for nothing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I wish for nothing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean I get it like they're trying to hit the tropes with it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like a woman lawyer and like she's you know, they're putting her in a position where she gets to like redeem herself for her own her own past against like a
[SPEAKER_05]: system that's like intentionally keeping her down and she's just kind of bowed out of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the movie betrays that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like even when she decides when they when they convince her to do it, I wanted her to be like, well, okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: I need I will do this but you're guaranteeing me whether or not he gets convicted I'm a partner like I take this case I'm a partner winner loose like I wanted her to have that level because it kind of put it there like and if you win then your partners will be like they're trying to dangle it out there as an incentive like
[SPEAKER_05]: I wanted her to be like, I don't give a shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you want me to do this, I'll take the money, and I'll take the partnership, and I'll do the best.
[SPEAKER_05]: I would have liked to see that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just wanted to see Glenn close be like more strong, I guess, just to be a strong.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then they do all of it in the last scene where what Tucker was just described where she just decides
[SPEAKER_05]: Apropos of nothing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to kill this guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like when she gets that quiet resolve of like, well, I guess I'm just going to have to handle this myself.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's so incongruous that she didn't rest as she could have been like, yeah, because Losius shows up like thirty seconds after she holds on.
[SPEAKER_05]: She could have gotten the thing home, gotten a hold of him and set up an elaborate thing to trap him and make sure that like, just to serve one vigorous shower and then answers the phone goes, you're together.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and just yeah, it's
[SPEAKER_05]: Shows are in her shows are media media like like have them come over and have it be another like Wow, instead they have Jeff or just come home with a fucking mask on or like yeah, like she should have like she could have like set up that she was wearing a wire and had like a confrontation with them or something all of it
[SPEAKER_05]: because at this point what they've demonstrated is that he is so conniving he's set this up a year and a half in advance and created a whole backstory that will be plausible deniability for when he turns around and murders and then immediately his just knee jerk reaction is a go over there breaking in killer like that's not in line with the way he's like oh shit
[SPEAKER_08]: and he puts on his mask and gloves and gets his eye gets his whole kill thing ready to go and gets over there before she's off the phone.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, well, he's about to, we don't know after she breaks the window after she gets off the phone with Losa like it's bad she's going upstairs.
[SPEAKER_05]: But do those phone calls happen back to back because there could have been a child like that she'll in the middle of her panic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_08]: Calm down.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and these aren't cell phones.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's in the country.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that it doesn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think this movie might be stupid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know the other thing maybe that really frustrated me about this movie and I tried to not like Dive too much of this stuff like this, but the editing in this movie is fucking dog shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you referring to exactly?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like there's so many abrupt edits where people kind of just like transport from one spot to another and we have no idea how much time has passed
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, there's no, like, nothing to establish where people are, like, there's very few establishments.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a little rough.
[SPEAKER_05]: That didn't take me out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, that's taking me out of a lot of films that we've done on this podcast.
[SPEAKER_05]: That one, that didn't bother me so much just until that last scene.
[SPEAKER_08]: Could you imagine trudging through the entire production of this movie?
[SPEAKER_08]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like, if you were, like, disassembly cut?
[SPEAKER_08]: Let's say you were directing this movie.
[SPEAKER_08]: Every day you go watch Dailys and you just think, that's what we got.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's what that feels like with that last set of put this together.
[SPEAKER_05]: It feels like with that last scene is like kind of boring.
[SPEAKER_05]: They just need to finish the movie and they're like, yeah, we can use this set.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to try and set up another thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: So let's just do it all here.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what it feels like.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like maybe not on the day, but at some point just being like, okay, we need, you know, at some point they have to figure out the shooting schedule and they're like, well,
[SPEAKER_05]: we could do it all here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, three extra days of shooting versus set up another and have another two weeks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's just do this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rick Marquand is like definitely like a job or director.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he said that he made those Ewoks work.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I was expecting he walks.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's my number one team vendor turns out to be a judge up and the guys like I think I want to represent myself in the judge.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, you know, objection you're on or that's I mean you walk
[SPEAKER_08]: They're like anyone that represents himself as a fool for a client.
[SPEAKER_08]: And it's like, well, do the that or an Ewok represents me.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I don't know.
[SPEAKER_08]: I can't understand him.
[SPEAKER_08]: He just seems to just be wanting to be hanglides into the trial every day.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's weird.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's gotta go wicker knife.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna make this a better movie.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I really give it something.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a personality.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, if it's a different movie's personality, at least with Ab one.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I, yeah, jagged edge.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you got your chances are pretty uh listen.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm glad to finally have this behind me.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do like the court room when they're asking about the knife and the guy keeps going.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's like a six inch blade and had one of those uh Jacks on the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jacks on the edge.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, actually don't see Jagged Edge.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a name of the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's good.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that eventually someone did.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, again, four of the best actor also were best in the show.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jimmy Stewart pops in.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's like, well, I was a jogger.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what you're gonna do.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna watch out for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jagged Edge is the knife.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had some sort of Jagged Edge.
[SPEAKER_05]: The to the best of the show of it Yeah, it's gonna win that the guy no, but the best performance the Yeah, yeah, the bad no the guy the the right airing the rip the no the night watchman guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, flies the the lock guys fucking spot on that guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing good.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's doing really good work if you watch him.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, thanks, Ron.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so it's like just enough of a character that you're like, yeah, this guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I did not.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I recognize that he must be a completely character.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's a complete character actor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, even just sitting there like reading the the booed law magazine.
[SPEAKER_05]: As he shows up and he just like gets up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everything about him is so natural.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like this guy is good is a zip they just turn to camera on the guy actually working there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what is also good about him as I like we talked about it with my cousin Vinnie where
[SPEAKER_04]: there wasn't the thing that was so great in surprising about my cousin Vinnie is it like none of the witnesses or nobody was out to like get anybody yeah yeah yeah you know like everybody was kind of just like no this is just like what i'm i'm brought in to say this to like give my hearty ulterior motive i'm trying to get a member yeah and he says like look i like the guy yeah but like i you know i saw what i saw yeah and like
[SPEAKER_05]: that character's good because of that word like some of the other like people like you know the other witnesses the other witnesses clearly just trying to get that's also like the the misdirect and then the on the nose direct of the same story line of he's having an affair like
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yeah, it's make it so that there was a marital problems make it so that there it's a nuanced relationship that like you do question oh, maybe he was maybe she was and then like I got a better idea Let's start from scratch Let's just not make this move it off
[SPEAKER_05]: or a reason to make this movie in the real yeah he's like oh my god that scene when like he's gonna remove himself sees like you know I don't want you guys doing editorials about the the the the defense attorney or the district attorney don't want you guys doing that and he's like I'm I'm gonna step back and this guy's gonna run the thing and you got the narrow old newspaper man who's standing there with them and he
[SPEAKER_05]: Looks that opens the window and there's all the newspaper shit going on.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, you know how much I'm going to miss all this.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, thirty three.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like he's been doing it for like two years, maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like a year.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's like settled that bro.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so funny watching movies, especially from like the eighties where it was like the
[SPEAKER_04]: of industry style yeah we're all like twenty five yeah yeah like oh our newly appointed CEO Ted Barstrom yeah twenty five years old now living great places they're all been had yeah I was thinking about this I wasn't someone I can't remember what I saw but they were talking about a splash yeah
[SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, him and his fucking brother run this produce distribution thing.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he lives in that fucking high rise and like they're struggling and all this, the whole time he lives in like the best like, remember when building like it's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it didn't matter.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it must be Manhattan, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: Because it's yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And she buys that fucking fountain and puts it in his apartment.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Heartman's a fucking mansion.
[SPEAKER_08]: Like,
[SPEAKER_08]: Everybody lived like that when I was a kid.
[SPEAKER_08]: I was like, oh, I can't wait til I grew up and I have a place like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a big giant loft support.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: You can't afford a fun closet in New York City.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't afford a closet in Boise, baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: That I mean, that's all.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I can do on jagged.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, need we say more.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, well, I guess I do have more to say.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_04]: The last thing I have to say about it is that I didn't necessarily hate watching it.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, I didn't hate watching it either.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was hate watching it some of the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I was just like this is not good.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's kind of inoffensive and how bad it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is offensive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like that too dopey to get to hell up about the handheld stuff like that was freaked you out as a kid like immediately took me out like as the movie starts and it's like
[SPEAKER_05]: clearly special effects of the stormy night on this like it's clearly just they took a shot color corrected it made it darker super opposed some storm on it to make it look stormed like all of it was just like this looks fake as shit and then and then it's the handhold of the killer walking up the stairs in that melodramatic movie music is just like
[SPEAKER_05]: what in the fuck is this and it's because it's been made fun of so much that it's you know because it's earnest and has been fucking parodied so much it's impossible to take serious anymore so already you know seven years post Halloween how many times have that been done and make sure that yeah I mean like the the audience understand the language a hundred percent and you're just like
[SPEAKER_05]: Popcorn and just like oh, here we go.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, there's nothing going on in this movie's headed all Yeah, that's the problem because I want a movie with Jeff Bridges and Glenn close to have some shit going on Yeah, I know like some of these smaller things stick out like the dad and the Canada guy like their performances get a little more
[SPEAKER_06]: Because they seem like humans.
[SPEAKER_05]: When the main characters are not acting like humans, it really makes it hard to get on board.
[SPEAKER_05]: which is fine unless she's supposed to be the super powerful and capable lawyer.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like if she's going to make this bad decision, she's got to not be that character.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like she has to be one of the others.
[SPEAKER_05]: She can't be.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, sure, people can be good at their job to make stupid in their personal life, but it doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It just doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because she's even like a dumb lawyer.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, she's bad lawyer.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, she's well, yeah, they both center like she's great because she has those moments of like breaking the character, breaking the fucking witness down.
[SPEAKER_04]: which but again we talked about it with my cousin Vinnie is I think a knock against like loyering loyering is like if you like win the case just by like badduring sure a witness you know what I mean until like oh my god
[SPEAKER_05]: for your edits were the thing that we're pulling you out, the like sharp, the clunky editing, and the stuff that was playing me out every time, and happened, and having at least twice, maybe three times, or either have a cutaway shot, or enough of the background intentionally showing the jury, like, leaning in interesting, so amazing, like, cut to the jury, like, oh, so good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, the other just filled with making thing that kept taking me out was how many like Slow zoom in shots you'd have a people Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my goodness, where they like some piece of information would be revealed and then slow zoom in on the it's also so poverty.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, very so poverty
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like that happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe only happened twice, but it felt like it's enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's done so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's distracted.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's been said.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not that these filmmakers are renowned for being excellent.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, anytime you notice the filmmaking, something's not going on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Something's not right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And let's you notice the filmmaking in like a good way.
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess what I mean, if noticing it takes you out of the moment, for instance, like after the fact.
[SPEAKER_05]: Man, and also the show was really cool.
[SPEAKER_08]: What?
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, rather than.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because like when you pick up on some of those Spielberg winners,
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoa dude, that was wait a minute wait a minute wait a gosh darn minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's that just one shot?
[SPEAKER_03]: Get out of the door.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's cause amazing
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, so next week we're gonna be talking about my pick, which is Anatomy of a murder.
[SPEAKER_05]: Anatomy of a murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've never seen it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tucker has seen it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you have?
[SPEAKER_04]: Al?
[SPEAKER_04]: Good show now.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm looking forward to watching it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it's, you know, how am I checking out today?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well regarded, well renowned movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's, you know, full stop.
[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_04]: That doesn't necessarily mean we're gonna like it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not necessarily.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's, yeah, I might, you can go either way, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, older movies sometimes, even if they're renowned, but at the time, you know, fifty years, sixty years of past, you're like, you're gone with the win.
[SPEAKER_04]: Whoah!
[SPEAKER_05]: Whoah!
[SPEAKER_05]: But there was parts of that that were, like, I kind of, you know, the filmmaking of it could be appreciated.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I assume the same with things like, yeah, yeah, some of it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you can kiss is it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, all of you guys wanted whatever.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we'll tell you how I feel about it before hand.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, then we'll find out who is guilty is.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_07]: you're charged with being the best court room movie wait how do you play do you play not dirty i hope to strike leading that move to straight objection your honor bad drink the witnesses
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the other objection that always?
[SPEAKER_04]: Leading, leading, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: But there's objection here say.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, here say.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which was all of the evidence against the guy was all here say.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we'll be black, but we'll be black.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you right now don't listen This one's gonna be taken down fast
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, with those sensitive, everybody has validated some of the kids.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to be excited to do it with an anime of.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks everybody for listening.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's this Christ.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll be back next week talking about anatomy, anatomy, anatomy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm not an anime.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not an anime.
[SPEAKER_04]: Adema of a murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Adema of a movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Adema of a murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Adema of a movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Adema of a fall.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_08]: Adema of a murder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: On until then.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pizza.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's dig in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers.
[SPEAKER_03]: About.
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