[SPEAKER_01]: I believe everybody that can hear me knows at least one person that should know in a gun, even if it's just some slapstick down the street, it's a homeless dude that's crazy, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The question then becomes, who gets to decide who's entitled to self-defense?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it the government?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because nope, I'll never, I don't care how dangerous it gets, I'll never agree to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, you know, what we need to do as human beings is
[SPEAKER_01]: Twofold, one, start holding people actually accountable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Put criminals in prison.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they fuck up again, put them in prison again, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then another way to hold people accountable is to shoot them in their face.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Citizen.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have comedian Nick Simmons on the show today.
[SPEAKER_01]: How's it going?
[SPEAKER_04]: Come on, pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not too bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've recently moved here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, finally gone.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a nice Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a thing now that instead of moving to LA?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you were in New York comedians, you didn't have to.
[SPEAKER_01]: I lived in a way for two and a half years.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was the worst time, you know, I actually moved there with perfect time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I moved there in the end of the twenty twenty, which as you can imagine was such a lovely time to be, you know, because they were governed so perfectly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it was like, it was great to be there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they it turned into a bit of a ghost town, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was actually the worst because we would try and perform.
[SPEAKER_04]: We actually tried to do stand up outdoors and I remember we were performing for homeless people in parks and we still get the cops called on us because they don't want us performing outside, which you think, you know, free entertainment and who are we bothering, but people still call the cops us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you would also think, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: considering the county of L.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: spends two billion dollars a year trying to solve the homeless problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're giving them entertainment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give them all COVID would be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Much cheaper solution.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Free actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut the fuck up and stop bothering people.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've watched that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've watched how corrupt that whole homeless situation is.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's, it's the worst.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not being great.
[SPEAKER_01]: considering, I mean, it's like the least ROI of any investment in history, maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but Jever, you're broken to the fact that like they have some of these homeless outreach programs that what they do is
[SPEAKER_04]: They get these grants, and they get a ton of money to build housing for the homeless.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then when they don't build them, all the money goes to consulting fees, then you see we're getting a lot richer off, homeless people, and it's getting worse and worse, which is like, huh, that's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this is a business.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'd like to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in time I see somebody that needs help.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Mozi on over and say, how can I make myself a profit, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's interesting out there too because the cops can't really mess with them like in the the tents Yeah, so I saw drug dealers actually using the tents as like base in Manhattan like I saw this outside of my old development those are guy who show up in
[SPEAKER_04]: Asked in Martin and even pull up get in a tent you'd see people come in and out all day He'd get back in his car and get out of my It's come in genius.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I lived in a I lived in Oakland for oh You're why lived in Piedmont and I'm talking about that area But it was it's like a hill overlooking Oakland.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, so it's you're like in the Lion King Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it was
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like that, like, sometime around that area, around that time period, between like, twenty- eleven, and I left in twenty- seventeen.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was this like straight-up open air drug markets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not so much an Oakland Oakland wasn't too bad, although it was shitty, but in San Francisco especially in the tenderloin.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been there yet, but I hear it's rough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I used to go,
[SPEAKER_01]: to Cobb's comedy club a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard that one, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's in the Marina district, but it's not too far away from a lot of bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I used to walk near, but I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: take the train over to work every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I lived in Oakland, I worked in San Francisco at a federal building.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I remember the train.
[SPEAKER_01]: The train was fine, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every now and again, there was a crackhead sleeping on it and shit like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I remember getting off, I would get off of the stop and walk over to work.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember the first time I saw a dude just shooting in the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't realize how bad it was to run the Santas and knew some debated and put up the boot map.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is San Francisco more of a meth town than her one town?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say definitely more heroin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know what it is now, but when I was there before, like we were just there, Candace and I were just there for her birthday, a couple months ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we stayed in a nicer part of the town.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously we're not staying in the tenderloin or anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's still, you see people nod now all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: You grew up in the Bronx, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's I noticed is when I moved to the West Coast, it's a different, they're, they were hooked on meth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm so used to heroin, which is why I feel like New York has the most towns at home with people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you get on the train, it's like a mirror Scott town with no shoes on, because they could sing, they could dance.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And over there, they just want to fucking stab you.
[SPEAKER_01]: They could also, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: The gymnastics people do when they're nodding out like that is wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw my first one fall to the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was the craziest thing ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole train.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like seeing a catland back or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and there was a guy dancing under this other train and he even stopped because we all were just like get the fuck out of here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was so crazy because the guy actually fell on my daddy.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you could fall and he woke up and he even looked embarrassed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that's like, do you lose?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you lose street cred in the homeless community for that, like, hey, do you hear what you're trying to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry, like, move your tent down the way you fucking loser.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus Christ, get out of, you can't, like, you're making us all look bad now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you grew up in the Bronx, what are you, thirty-four, you said?
[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty-five, nine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty-five?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was it like growing up there?
[SPEAKER_04]: I grew up in a Italian neighborhood in the Bronx, so it's a very, like,
[SPEAKER_04]: If you watch the show, the movie of Bronxdale, it's pretty much like based on that neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've grew up with the Mars Park that I live in Country Club, which sounds like a made-up place in the Bronx, and people like to keep it that way, because people don't, in the rest of the Bronx don't even know Country Club exists, because it's like on the other side of the biggest park, and it's like,
[SPEAKER_04]: It's nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like houses on the water.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like not at all what you'd think when you think the Bronx.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it's like the food is amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a very family cultural neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then for high school because I was a wrestler and I was a pretty good wrestler high school ended up moving up state to this place called the Gibson New York, which was actually more ghetto than the Bronx.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, really that's that's surprising.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's doing the nineties.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like the crack epidemic like all the gangs moved up there to destroy that neighborhood and it was it's still in shambles.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, everybody knows hide park.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right next to Gibson.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a bit of a situation for a minute.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it's like now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been beautiful now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it really high barx gorgeous?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was a lot of crackheads running around there for a bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I think that's where the frail of president's mansion is over there.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's one of the famous presidents how to uh
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it Roosevelt?
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Roosevelt's from New York, so maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I don't tell you, which one was it?
[SPEAKER_01]: FDR was a governor in New York before he was a governor.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like his like, get away.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a, there's a, the Vanderbilt, Vanderbilt state is up there too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think they even own it anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's more just like a, you go there on a field trip.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the Bronx is a little bit more
[SPEAKER_01]: I, people today often will say things like diversies are strength and people will say that that, I mean, it was a melting pot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would, I would tell you it's more of a stew where you're supposed to blend in with the rest of the ingredients, but the Bronx was always like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that it was always meant to be, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of, but I actually, people act like,
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it is like one of the most diverse burrows.
[SPEAKER_04]: People act like it's so diverse and such a melting pot, but it's honestly not.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's like four groups?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very segregated.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You go to Disney for this the Russians.
[SPEAKER_04]: You go to Disney over the Italians.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you don't go and I remember I went into I was a teenager going into an Irish neighborhood, which is called Edgewater.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they woulder like what the fuck you're doing here and I was like all right getting the fuck out because it was like off the boat Irish guys Yeah, and they did not want Italians coming in the neighborhood and they would chase you the fuck out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, maybe there's a lesson there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like we can exist together.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just gotta stay the fuck out of my neighborhood But yeah, did you get into a lot of trouble growing up around an area like that because I definitely would have
[SPEAKER_04]: Legal, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was lucky because my dad was a corrections officer on Microsoft and so I had his badge card with got me out of a lot of shit, but fist fights.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, New York and New Jersey, those things are very valuable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not so much the rest of the country, but those two places specifically, those cards are very, I got some from New Jersey in the front.
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, a funny story about that because I was in the car with my, I was driving and it's me and three black comedians and we're in the car and they start bringing up white privilege.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're arguing about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like saying, you know, it doesn't exist.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's something that does.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're arguing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the next thing I see cop lights behind me.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the cop lights go on.
[SPEAKER_04]: I turn the music down.
[SPEAKER_04]: They get fucking quiet.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, oh, I must go on the fucking debate because they stopped arguing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the cop walks up.
[SPEAKER_04]: and he goes license registration, they're quiet a shit, I hand him my license registration and my I know a cop card and he just looks at it and he goes records and I'm like, yeah, my dad and he goes, all right, get home safe and they just go, did you just handle, we'll fucking wipe privilege card?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, but I was like, yeah, anyone could know the white the whiteness is that's a coincidence.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in that regard.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of black fucking corrections officers up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: She might be mostly black now mostly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, New York does actually do well because I was talking to my friend about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: We were saying that New York, each neighborhood does this great.
[SPEAKER_04]: In an Italian neighborhood, they'll have Italian cops.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got a Chinatown, you see Chinese cops, which is, in my opinion, the best way to do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: People might think that that sounds bad, but I think sticking someone in the wrong neighborhood is going to make the nervous.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the last thing you want is someone who's a little more nervous around people with a gun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is something that's, I forget about just policing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is something that the neocons in America just can't seem to figure out.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't police other people.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't send black and white dudes to Arab countries to police them.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not got a fucking happened to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the culture's different and they don't respect outside authority.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely dominate them, which is not what we really want to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the same thing, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The police should typically look.
[SPEAKER_01]: and think like the people over there doesn't necessarily like if it's a mixed neighborhood then it doesn't the race doesn't matter but the fucking attitude does you can take some fucking Iowa do it and put them in the middle of a fucking uh... a bro or like that because in Iowa people talk to the police a certain way it's like yes sir no sir yeah and the Bronx it's like hey fuck face yeah and the cop is like fuck you dude yeah i mean exactly it's like it's a different attitude i think give it
[SPEAKER_01]: People think that thinking of it is disrespectful and you get this sometimes and I'm like, I don't think I have any male friends where we haven't lit each other up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Probably before we became friends, if I don't bust balls with someone, I probably don't either know them or don't like them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there's like a level of rapport that gets, that only gets us in.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like true in the animal kingdom as well as when you see lines fucking with each other all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like a, there's a level of rapport that can only get met
[SPEAKER_01]: with a certain level of fucking with each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's why dudes like people
[SPEAKER_01]: in certain industries, the restaurant industry, comedy, the military police, fire, stuff like that, where they're around each other all the time, and they're just constantly talking shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You see clothes and relationships out of those guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll like bro relationships, and you do anywhere, a frat stuff, too, I guess, to some degree.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's like, I used to work a really authentic Italian doughy, and that was like, I really authentic, you mean that Mexican dudes were working in the exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: But in the front, it was very Italian.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we would bust balls with the customers all the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's why people loved coming to that place.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it made you feel like, oh, this is the neighborhood spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the obviously some of the, some of the fucking plays on it like Dick's last resort is dumb, but I've never been, but I've been trying to go, and I want to brain count.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't want to tell him what it is before I bring it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's one here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see an Antonio, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The river walker.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we should actually go down there.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might be going to dinner with him tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I'll bring it up.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be... I want to bring it in there without going home just so they just start falling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does he not know?
[SPEAKER_01]: He probably knows.
[SPEAKER_01]: No idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll apply and he goes, what's that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, we'll go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I won't say anything now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's really good.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll actually... Have you been there before?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be fun to take a group of comedians there that actually knew just fire back.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be so fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you took...
[SPEAKER_01]: some good roast comics, which is plenty here in Austin now, as a whole fucking show for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that would either make or ruin someone's life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine you're bringing a Tony Henskloft down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this is fucking bedazzled gay cow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, who's this fucking ass?
[SPEAKER_01]: They just start to lighten them up.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be great.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, wrestled in high school, but also did you do a high school?
[SPEAKER_04]: Wrestling in football with my two sports.
[SPEAKER_04]: But wrestling was my, my main, made it to NHSCA Nationals by junior year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was going to do it in college, but then I realized that cutting from two hundred pounds down to one sixty is not something I wanted to keep on doing for a sport that there is no final destination.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the only sport where at the end it's just actors in underwear playing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, a lot of guys are going into MMA now, but again, that's a fucking, I mean, baseball with the minor leagues is tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's seven hundred and fifty or so major league players at any given time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then about four to five times that much of the miners in the vast majority of them will never make the majors.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's a tough thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the hardest sports to make is the make-off, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I guess technically,
[SPEAKER_01]: that's probably not true.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the hardest.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the hardest that people actually try, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because people don't try to join the NBA.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: You either make it or you don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no like fucking mind, there's a G league in shit, but most of the people in the G league never make it either.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the G league actually turns a profit unlike the WNBA.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they make, they actually make somewhat decent salaries, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see the thing the WNBA players?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: To put on the shirts that say, pay us what we deserve.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, you mean negative dollars.
[SPEAKER_04]: It would be about negative two hundred fifty thousand dollars a player.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Caitlyn Clark is the only thing keeping that shit afloat right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, and then in football, not really, I mean, there's college, but then you're not going to go play, you know, Gerard Michaels, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our buddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I've known him for years.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he played minor league ball for, like six or eight years or some shit before you find that was like, all right, well, this isn't going to work out, but
[SPEAKER_01]: There's not nobody goes and plays a lower league and football or basketball for eight years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then then decides, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to say which is harder, but there's definitely a lot more opportunity to fail in baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if soccer is an easy one to make it in this country since we don't give a shit about soccer.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're a good athlete, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, honestly, we're not sending our best, obviously.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was having this debate with someone South American friend, you know, because they were saying that US sucks at soccer and I'm like, it's only because we don't give a shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I was telling them, if you put our best athletes, they put the bronze James on the air.
[SPEAKER_04]: You put him in the gold.
[SPEAKER_04]: You put like, I can tie a hill as a striker.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: The other reason we're not winning every world cup is because we don't get the minute we start giving a shit is the minute we, you guys never see a world cup ever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we should do it for just one year.
[SPEAKER_01]: right just to have all of our best athletes go out there for one year not even like soccer players yeah it's like hey we don't even care about this we just wanted to we just want to dominate it's it's like when uh the little dude in the group is churping and you just go fucking turtle and you just put it back yeah like hand on the head and yeah all right fine fine
[SPEAKER_04]: I told him this how much this how good were our sports.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, did you hear about the cricket thing last year?
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you a script?
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't even know we had a cricket time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was I don't like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's like you're asking me to participate in something that I don't even agree with.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: But the best part was, so Pakistan's supposed to be the best team, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't have our players on the US team are not full-time players.
[SPEAKER_04]: They all most don't work at Oracle.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they had to take paid time off of work to play Pakistan and then we fucking beat Pakistan.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's our good way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Our Oracle players, our Oracle workers could take time off of work and the best team in the world at a sport.
[SPEAKER_04]: We didn't even know existed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I bet.
[SPEAKER_01]: if you just take recently retired majorly baseball players dude or you know this is this is the other thing um our soccer team should be like people from the uh men's volleyball Olympic team this put them over there too yeah like you got a player there now too you play all our beast sports yeah because our like the athlete the guys that we're sending are just
[SPEAKER_01]: We're sending our, like, fifth or six best guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the rest of the world is sending their best guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you count like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Russia, Sweden, Poland, because they're hockey players.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the most part, they're sending their best to hockey, but the rest of the world is sending their absolute best athletes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've been trying to come up with the best U.S.
[SPEAKER_04]: team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that would be, there would be fun to see, just put our best athletes out there to see what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like, I'm a soccer fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big Arsenal fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've watched Arsenal food since I was a kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want World Cup?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna go to the games when they come here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It depends on I don't know if they release a schedule yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they'll probably be one in Dallas.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was gonna be in that I'm a big Cowboys fan so I'm gonna fucking wait to go down there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a great stadium to watch a game to any game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you been?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's, I mean, the Cowboys suck, but I know a fence, but... No, Dak Presscott makes me so upset to be a Cowboys fan.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I've, I've found out that people here like Dak Presscott, and it's made me so upset.
[SPEAKER_01]: People here like Dak Presscott, the same way that people like their favorite politician, completely unreasonable.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean, no matter what they do, they still love him.
[SPEAKER_04]: He plays quarterback like he's colorblind.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like he throws the ball and goes, I wonder why they're running backwards.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's, uh...
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a special guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but there's I know there's going to be some there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would suspect at metal lands in New Jersey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, metal lands is going to I think there's going to be a couple of games there or maybe one of the groups is going to play all their shit there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would have said soldier feel because they played those back in what the ninety four world cup, but I don't think so because they're redoing it right aren't they moving it right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like getting you built.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe not there LA for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Miami for sure maybe Seattle they've got they play at the Seahawks Stadium up there and that I've actually seen matches up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty dope.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you see the when the Columbia played at in Miami?
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was people sneaking into the stadium.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was the fucking crew down rafts and shudder.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they broke through the gates and they couldn't keep the people who didn't get tickets out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I bet you couldn't get a door dash or a cab anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's really funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like when they bring stuff to American, it's always a good opportunity for cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco to clean up, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: When the when the Chinese president came and all of a sudden, San Francisco was a cleanest city in the country.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's it's almost like they did with the homeless people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know whatever Bernie Carrack and fucking Rudy did back in the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like Penn Station was full of homeless people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, wow, this is, there was a period where it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, nineteen ninety seven, it was full of homeless people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in ninety nine, nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And until like, somewhere,
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... there was a blip when Bloomberg took over after julyony and that's when Bloomberg initiated the stop question in frisk which everybody blames under publicans but he's a democrat public and so uh... but yet the stop question first thing came back because there's a slight retards running around doing dumb shit and then it fucking went down again and now it's obviously with the blasio and uh... atoms it's kind of we're going to have that on that week because i got out but they're going to have uh... muzrani
[SPEAKER_04]: No, mom don't, mom don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to make a government issued grocery stores because that's always good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you want, if you can go to the DMV and then say that I want this organization and charger of my food, that's exactly what it's all people all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, then you deserve it, but yeah, fuck you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a very little sympathy for anybody that can't see the problem with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, most like name one government run thing that is going well, DMV, USPS.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I get a package and it says USPS is sending it, I'll go.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll see when I see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't know if you traveled much to Italy.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I've gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've spent fucking a lot of time over there and you absolutely cannot use their mail service.
[SPEAKER_01]: But now they just steal it.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're American, you're trying to mail something back to yourself to just like fuck this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's never coming back.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's he gonna do?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you gotta use like dhl or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's just a travel tip.
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't the fucking today show, wouldn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's how he's doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Get outta here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I imagine how he'll...
[SPEAKER_01]: So your parents still live up there?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, my mom passed and I was young, so my dad still lives up there, but he's moving too far to see what he's getting, the fuck out.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's retired.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was CO for a long time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he was a personal bodyguard for a couple of rich people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now he works at you ain't excited because he can't fucking stop working and I'm like you need to stop working go to Florida get a boat and fucking enjoy life go to fucking while don't go to Marlon's games because while you'd be the only one games because you can go wherever you want I don't understand how a stadium in in little Havana can't fill up
[SPEAKER_01]: But baseball game doesn't make a sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if they start putting soccer games down there, they're going to make a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they should definitely at least, uh, while I mean, at where it is, uh, in Miami play.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have their own stadium.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, have you talked to any of your friends and family about this literal communist that's running for office?
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess going fucking ape shit right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I mean, I got out just in time.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'll be honest with you because I'm friends with a lot of like liberal a lot of New York comics and liberal a fucking industry It's for him pro and I'm on podcasts and stuff like that and I'm just like like me I'm not I'm a libertarian so like it's My team's never gonna win.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like being a meds fan But like at the end of the day I'm like this is not good for this.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a capitalist city
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no way that this is the capitalist city.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a definition of capitalism.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the reason why it's such a great city.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, and I see these people going, oh, well, you know, if the rich don't like it, they can just get out.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, you think New York is going to run exactly the way you think New York runs without rich people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, this is a rich bird.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a reason why you have to make four hundred thousand dollars a year living the city.
[SPEAKER_04]: Otherwise, it's going to go to shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: My God.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he did say one thing though.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he did say one thing that I think is what won him a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I don't know if you saw the debate when they were asking everybody where they were going to go after their one and everyone's at Israel Israel.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he goes, I'm going to stay in New York because I'm the mayor in New York, which is a great answer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like you want your mayor to stay in the city that he's the mayor of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I didn't, did Adams go to Israel for some reason?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he went somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he, wasn't he under federal investigation for like some kind of deal?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he was just out party and I don't think he was actually going to where.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: That guy was the fucking worst.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a, well, he may be the mayor again.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he gonna run Republican now?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's running as an independent.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he, yeah, yeah, something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he might, no, he's running as independent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that fucking guardian angel dick is running.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we're talking.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, he's just wasting time.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just a guy who goes on the subway and doesn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No one's ever been saved by a guardian angel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I doubt it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've maybe maybe in the fucking seventies.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I'm about to get jumped in this force, seven year old guys and right now, I'm not telling the thing save for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just gonna say a prayer.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like it was nice knowing you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you grew up in the Bronx.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the libertarian thing from where did that come from?
[SPEAKER_04]: Ron Paul when he ran the first time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, not the first time, but when he ran and I think it was a two thousand eight election.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember watching him and like some of the stuff you were saying, I was like damn this guy's got some good points because I was watching him at the Republican National Convention when he told he he walked in there and like
[SPEAKER_04]: He was just a nut.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, it was kind of like what Trump did in twenty sixteen when he walked in an island.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like the same annihilation, but not funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just like this guy's proven good points.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I got more and more into that ideology where
[SPEAKER_04]: I love so much about liberty.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's obviously some things that I don't love.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think a society with no taxes works.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think there is benefits of that, but anti-aggression policy and going around the world and occupying these places is at some point going to piss people the fuck off.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, if you occupy, like, he said it perfectly.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, if China occupied us and set up, you know, like, missiles on the borders of Canada, Mexico, and, you know, for fifty years, you know, put in shadow governments at some point.
[SPEAKER_04]: If we did something about it, it'd be weird if they're like, what the fuck was that about?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yeah, I mean, I see that and I'm somebody who is one of the people that has to go fight these wars, I would prefer them to be good, like actually follow just war theory and not be nonsense.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in a bit of a pickle now because, well, to your point from before, we know what would happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Russia tried to put fucking missiles in Cuba and we almost had World War III, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we know what the fuck's gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's completely unacceptable.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way that we've addressed Russia
[SPEAKER_01]: is stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a good book about it called per vote.
[SPEAKER_01]: Scott Horton's the fucking man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sometimes sometimes he hangs out with this fucking Nazi dude, but sometimes he's he's he's a really smart guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I like his books.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of him and Dave Smith.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Dave is on foreign policy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dave is a is basically a retarded person.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't like it now.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not like the whole thing with a ran.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't have been more wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the way that they respond to that is that, oh, Trump didn't do a more because of like, no, dude, you were just wrong to say you're wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Horton's book provoked.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Completely lays out how
[SPEAKER_01]: promises were made by the Americans by NATO, etc.
[SPEAKER_01]: that we weren't going to encroach on Russian territory just to your point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, in the meantime, Russia has been running influence operations inside the U.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like they're fucking innocent either.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're mad that we installed a puppet in Zelensky, but they're only mad because we overthrew their puppet.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm often torn on this issue, and especially with China as well, because they're buying up all kinds of American farmland and farmland.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like near military bases, they've got secret police headquarters over here that are fucking harassing Chinese citizens that live here, threatening to kill their family back home if they don't spy for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: They steal about six hundred billion dollars worth of our intellectual property.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was no situation recently, too, where there was some guy, I think he was Chinese, and he snuck through the border, it was to poison our grain.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, now they were university students at...
[SPEAKER_01]: was out there was a Chicago or something, or there were researchers, they went students, their researchers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they brought over what is effectively blight, if you know what that is, blight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you've seen interstellar, the thing that made all the crops die, it's that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's not great.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the richest student, China just bought some fucking other thing here in the US.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like everybody's playing these games right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is something that I like to talk to libertarians about actually because
[SPEAKER_01]: The current set forget our rush, because they're a paper tiger.
[SPEAKER_01]: We shouldn't even be talking about them in my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: China's cutouts right now are North Korea and Iran and Iran's cutouts, Houthi, Hezbollah, Hamas, and their partner country Iraq.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, we created that problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: As a matter of fact, we created the Iran problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we didn't create shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: My great grandfather may have for something like that, and having to do with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I got DMM, I'm not gonna
[SPEAKER_01]: suffer the consequences, I'll kill all these people, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is what China is doing and they've maintained control of Suez and the Panama Canal, they own sixty-five percent of all global rare earth mineral rates, sixty-five percent of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to box us out, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what the red line for us is going to be then, because if you're in a war, one of the first things you want to do control the resources is control resources.
[SPEAKER_01]: General Pershing in World War I said that soldiers went battles, but logistics went wars, and that's the fact.
[SPEAKER_01]: And China's clearly positioning themselves to try to cut us off in whatever way they can.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder from your perspective, because I grew with the anti-action mindset.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, owning so much debt in this country?
[SPEAKER_04]: They only own like six percent of our debt.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there really that much?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that much.
[SPEAKER_01]: They own more farmland than they do debt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which we could seize whenever we wanted to be honest.
[SPEAKER_04]: But since your military, you might know a lot better about this than I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: But from what I've heard, like, you know, obviously said Russia's paper type.
[SPEAKER_04]: from what I hear they're working with a lot of old style weaponry like oh China's not a military match for us it's why they're doing all the stuff so it's an economic way of going about it yeah they would if we went to war with China it would be over in a matter of weeks
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because the product World War II like age weapon, like their tanks and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got some stuff from the sixties and seventies too.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they say they have a fifth gen fighter, for example, that's going to come out soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a copy of our old fifth gen fighter, but at an eighty percent solution in our fifth old fifth gen fighters from the eighties.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a six gen fighter that has full spectrum AI on it now where it can identify
[SPEAKER_01]: Like gate recognition, do you know what that is?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like from a satellite, it can tell who you are by how you walk.
[SPEAKER_01]: That I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's got all this other crazy bullshit on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's and our battle carriers and our trident subs, they have no chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they know that as well as we do, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they're doing all this other.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, from when I heard the second biggest air force in the country in the world is is our Navy all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is yeah, and like the fifth biggest air force is our Marine Corps if Yeah, yeah, what's the Pepsi at one point like the third biggest Pepsi?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe they've got a lot of where we got most a lot of our aircrafts from.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's that would be really funny if that were true.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's like
[SPEAKER_01]: They know they're not a match for us head on, so they're doing all this other shit, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is why they've been... And they're in Africa, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sitting like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The reason they're in Africa is for rare earth minerals.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they own something, I don't know what the percentage is, but a bulk of Canada's rare earth mineral rates.
[SPEAKER_01]: China does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they own them all over the world, South America, and...
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're making moves.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess the question is what should America do about that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we technically speaking, we have the ability to mind our own resources.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to go anywhere if we don't want to.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got lithium and cobalt here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have oil more than anybody here, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got food here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't necessarily have to do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what should we do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is the question?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what's a red line?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I like to break it down in the lowest possible terms.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're a dude that's a good fighter and everybody knows it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So nobody's going to come at you straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: How much are you going to let somebody sneak up on you before you turn around and watch some of this on your head before you do something about it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fair question because
[SPEAKER_01]: In personal terms, you should probably immediately address it, but in global terms, we're not going to respond to every single thing because it's not worth it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is a point where you have to say, okay, you guys are fucking trying to set up shop like the fentanyl and Mexico comes from China.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Mexican.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the cartels are getting it from China.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just the through way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been this way with libertarianism, because like, there's some people who are completely anti-aggression in the sense where like, which you'd be isolationist, which I don't agree with, I actually think that they're like part of being anti-aggression is also just not policing the world, you know, like, in a sense, like, words that don't need, like getting involved in other people's battles that don't need to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, when it becomes a direct threat to us, we have ever right.
[SPEAKER_04]: to absolutely do something about him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm not one of the super that I'm like, oh, just live and let live.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, because then it's gonna fuck up.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna get fucked up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, obviously we're, we live in a place that we're lucky as fuck because geographically we're amazing for war and you know, for our minerals and for, you know, our natural resources.
[SPEAKER_04]: But at a certain point, if it becomes a direct threat to the American way of life, I am fully on board with
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but then it's like, I go back and forth on this one because America became great by outsourcing our spending power, basically, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So during World War II, the Lindley's thing, we were given, we were selling weapons to England, which a lot of people were mad that were continuing to send stuff over to Ukraine.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well,
[SPEAKER_01]: NATO countries are paying for it now so what why do I care about that sure like I would I would prefer that Russian Ukraine sort to South cuz I don't want fucking people to die for no reason typical speaking right but it's none of my fucking business either yeah and you know I guess you can make the point that
[SPEAKER_01]: given or selling them weapons is contributing or prolonged in the fact.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I don't really care about that either as long as I'm not paying for it, I don't give a fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think that there's a possible way that they're doing this to try and destabilize Russia and its sense?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess, but rush is the one that fucking popped off first, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the thing with everybody that calls what's happening at Gaza, a fucking Holocaust or whatever the fuck they're saying on the other side, like, come on, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you're losing a war.
[SPEAKER_01]: You started a war and you're getting your shit pushed in and now you're crying.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's you're the little brother.
[SPEAKER_01]: You started a fight with big brother, big brother's whipping your ass and now you want dad to come save you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, you fucking take your medicine, bitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it goes, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean,
[SPEAKER_04]: At the same time, I don't love what's happening.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's another one.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the worst situation in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's like people, people they're talking about, two states and all this stuff, no, I don't never have it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because that's the thing, like when people, like, I remember at the beginning of it, a lot of my liberal comic friends, like, why are you not posting on social media about this?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, honestly, because number one, they're not going to, the idea is not going to be like, oh, that, that Jack comedian in New York said something, we need to put our weapons down.
[SPEAKER_04]: And also, I get the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a war, and this has been beef that's gone on since before Christ.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's nothing that I, there's not a point that I have.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not like a typical war where it's about land and that's, I could as land, but it's also at a religious level.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's more than just a regular war.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the fact that it's not like your typical thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, obviously, I don't love the fact that
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, Israel, like Dave Smith actually said, a pretty perfect, like, you know, like the hoot party.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a Netanyahu's party for got the name.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah, I don't know the name of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, um, you know, they had a ever since back in the day Netanyahu's wanted to destabilize seven different countries.
[SPEAKER_04]: And one of the last ones at the end is Iran, which is like, you know, I don't love the idea of us doing the bidding for another country.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't want to be looked at as the people at the front gate, you know, like, and, you know, us funding their healthcare, us funding, you know, all their stuff like because without our funding, it's hard for them to even exist as a country.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or they just tell us that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it seems like they do pretty well.
[SPEAKER_01]: They own like the bulk of major pharmaceutical patents are owned by Israel, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually the thing that we get most in the U.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: aside from just intelligence, the thing that we get most from them is pharmaceutical stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: They make plenty of fucking money.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't need our money, but they need us to be associated with them for our military threat and in reality.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I don't give too fucks about Israel or if it exists or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then like hiding.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing with Ukraine.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't figure it out, then get fucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I'm not like it's my fault.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that you have gone over to these places and doing their bidding for them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Especially, I don't love the idea of a point where US
[SPEAKER_04]: Like men have from the US are gonna have to go to these places and lose their like cuz I I don't like to look at them as numbers like these are people with you know wives and yeah families and stuff like that And it's like the idea of them losing like someone losing their life like we've done in the past like for another country Yeah, it's heartbreaking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know they always couch it in a different way obviously, but
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the prevailing theories on the libertarian side is that we went to Iraq on behalf of Israel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really buy that because Dick Cheney was the Secretary of Defense when we
[SPEAKER_01]: helped essentially bring Saddam Hussein in the power and uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
[SPEAKER_01]: slap the fuck out of this dude, and I don't mean figuratively.
[SPEAKER_01]: I literally have to slap him in the face because I have to alpha him otherwise he won't talk to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like I'm trying to abuse the dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: He literally, it's cultural.
[SPEAKER_01]: He won't talk to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it gives him me alpha making myself the alpha gives him permission to talk to me now, which is kind of fucked up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not how we do things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, sometimes we do, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I feel way doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's like that's how it is for everybody over there in these shit-hole countries and What did we think we were gonna do fucking have some little sing along a kumbayaan?
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's gonna get along afterwards.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's retarded nonsense, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's again the neo-Kons can't figure this shit out.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't please other people.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, because like that whole thing in the way I look at it, especially with Saddam was like
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't be wrong.
[SPEAKER_04]: By no means am I saying he was a good person.
[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, it's kind of like the Pablo Escobar situation.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I can Columbia when Pablo Escobar was in charge.
[SPEAKER_04]: There wasn't hundreds of thousands of gangs running rampant China all come for the throne because he had them in check.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as soon as we killed him, now Columbia is plagued with all these gangs trying to take over, which kind of seems like a much bigger version of what happened after Saddam.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm went out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_01]: It took the West.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven hundred years from the Magda Carter to the Declaration of Independence that really figure out what self-governance meant.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: That we didn't eat kings necessarily took
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, uh, five hundred just let's call five hundred years, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, of actively trying the back of the cardo is the northern barons telling King the king that like, hey, we got rights to, but just the barons, not the fucking plats.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously for these guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, uh, sometime, a couple hundred years later,
[SPEAKER_01]: this group of people called the levelers write a document called an agreement of the people and it took it's sort of took the magna card I made it for everybody like everybody's got individual like rights don't get bestowed to you from the government their natural right by force right uh... it's like and you have to do some of the take them and it's the statement was uh... the individual has the right to read rest against its government a ruler who ever does uh... and then hundred fifty or so years after that i think
[SPEAKER_01]: is the Declaration of Independence where people that own slaves still fair enough but said all men deserve this and it was the idea that mattered not the execution of it I think that's something that people get tripped up on a lot but it took five hundred fucking years
[SPEAKER_01]: for that process to take place in English culture, which is what we are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of where you're from, even to some degree until the sixteenth century, Rome was heavily informed by English culture and then vice versa, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then afterwards were the Byzantines heavily influenced by English culture.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here in America,
[SPEAKER_01]: the idea of property rights and individual liberty and shit like that is an English idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's also a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, oh yeah, I've got a whole fucking thing on this following the
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm right now I'm recording a twenty five part series on the history of the constitution all the way back right from like several hundred years before it and then the second part is a fifteen part series on how it lines up with a promise to reformation specifically
[SPEAKER_01]: like Martin Luther's idea wasn't that Catholics are bad people it's like hey you guys have developed a lot of ceremonial stuff and fair enough but you're telling people they're gonna go to health they don't do it and it's not in this book so that's the problem for me you know what I mean that was the whole argument yeah a lot of the I mean a lot a lot of what we go by still the the court tenants of like ten commandments like yeah stealing killing stuff like that yeah so it's like there's a there's a
[SPEAKER_01]: a big connection between those things.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it took all this time to figure this shit out and we think that what in five years we're going to go topple some regime whose ideology comes from the seventh century.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to happen and they're just going to figure it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't been trying.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are some countries that are Jordan, Bahrain, to some lesser degree the UAE has made a lot of
[SPEAKER_01]: a lot of progress in, like, actual human rights and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Up and on to, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's back and forth.
[SPEAKER_01]: It depends on the part of the country.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're in a civil fucking war right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look back at, like, because I've, some friends on Lebanon, they showed me a picture of what looked like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Back in the day, even Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: It looked like Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Iran was pretty dope in the seventies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw that, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, you know, sort of women wearing bikinis and stuff like that on the beach and you're like, wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also the idea that we're going to go in there and change that's not going to happen all you here's here's what America can do America can use soft power.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we did with the Marshall Plan right so and in Japan we butt fuck Europe and Japan we nuked Japan twice yeah and we're like hey all right we're going to let you guys uh siphon off of our economy for a while until you build your own and now Japan is the third largest economy on earth
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Germany was the fourth before all this crazy bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know what they're doing now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are they allowed to have a military now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Germany?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've got they've actually got some pretty good special operators over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're pretty known for having good militaries.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pretty good at that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've got they've got some really good special operators.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about the regular military folk, but their special operators are good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, like it took
[SPEAKER_01]: a very long time for us to figure this out, hundreds of years, generations and generations of actively trying to figure it out, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the best way, the reason that I think it finally took a leap forward was the economic part, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, unleashing the individual, like with, instead of the government being
[SPEAKER_01]: a device to tax people and to some degree protect them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It became a
[SPEAKER_01]: a safe haven for people to unleash their own ingenuity.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what America was, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: People started making shit and selling it to everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, oh, we don't have to fucking go crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's my idea of making like a place like New York Socialist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like capitalism.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was trying to talk some about some.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the things that drives people is
[SPEAKER_04]: monitor again you know like the reason why you want like the reason why even some people an immigrant comes to this country and goes for a job as a doctor they came here because they want a better financial way of life and if you remove that financial aspect of it
[SPEAKER_04]: where it's like, you know, if we ever got to, if we want, like, this is people who want everyone to get paid equals, like, well, what's the point of someone being a doctor then?
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the point of someone creating this when you could just make the same amount doing something?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a lot less intensive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you going to go to school for eight years and then another four years of residency to become a doctor and make sixty five thousand dollars a year?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's only going to be just really nice people.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not going to be the best.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the reason why I, you know, I have friends that live in countries where they have free healthcare, but like at the same time, like some for an elective surgery, they're going to come here.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a reason why you come here for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, socials have been stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, people aren't equal.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: And pretending that they are doesn't do anybody any favors.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a matter of fact, it hurts most people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think some of that comes from the participation trophy generations where everyone's equal?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but I think it started back in the early part of the twentieth century.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, the late part of the nineteenth century with the labor movement.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when Marxism kind of infiltrated the US government.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've had, under Woodrow Wilson,
[SPEAKER_01]: The top marginal tax rate went up to ninety percent right during the whole one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this has been going on for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then of course, twenty years after him, fifteen years after him, the new deal from fucking FDR came out.
[SPEAKER_01]: The government's now in charge of your retirement plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who the fuck agreed to this shit?
[SPEAKER_01]: Very wild stuff, but it's been going on for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I think the function of Marxism isn't the particular ideology.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about power.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you strip all this stuff away.
[SPEAKER_01]: What will be the purpose of the government being in charge of your fucking money?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like your heat the government's a pimp.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll keep all the money if you need some.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know and I'll give it to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's literally about controlling control.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what Marxism has always been about.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they call everything racist or oppressive or sexist or whatever until they own it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what these land acknowledgments are all about.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, we're standing on stolen land.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, OK, we'll give it back.
[SPEAKER_01]: You own that fucking property give it back you fucking die one drives me because and like give me the keys to your house Yeah, I'll go find a nice native family and give it to them They're like what it's like what are you still doing here and it's like also one of the things that those people who say stuff like that when they're like oh my people should go back to Europe
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, okay, so you think that everybody should just go back to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're telling me, so all the black people in Europe and all the Muslims should get, get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: By your ideology, those people should get out of the land that they don't belong.
[SPEAKER_01]: We even the so-called Native Americans have to go back to Siberia because they cross the land bridge about twelve times a year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, what are we going to do?
[SPEAKER_04]: And do you give it back to the people?
[SPEAKER_04]: Not the polar bears.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the Cherokee who beat, you know, who defeated, who informed them and before them, like, do we have how far back do we go?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we should have a tournament.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's call it war and whoever wins gets to keep the ocean.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we did.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what we did.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, if they did that, you have to see at the White House.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be really funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, with the communism and the socialism thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: like I talked to my friends who are into it about it and it's just like in what way it because all of them don't trust the government right and it's like so you don't trust these people but you for some reason want to give them more power that's almost like when people say that they're afraid of a dictator like they call Trump a dictator but they also want to give up
[SPEAKER_04]: the second amendment.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, you think that someone's a dictator, and what we should also do is we should also give up the way of fighting a dictator's show.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is the mental, what is the mindset behind that?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something called the is-art fallacy.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is something that a lot of people fall victim to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably all of us actually to some degree, but these people at the macro level, like an informed, their entire worldview.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the way things are, the is, and the way things is ought to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they think those two are the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is not reality.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, everything should be fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, OK, maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that I even agree with that, but let's say it's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then what evil do you have to do to make everything fair?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's never good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It requires constant authoritarianism to make things fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: people have this worldview that is completely captured by the idea that things ought to be a certain way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like sometimes you can go into the world and affect things, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Which would be lovely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you can go apply your labor to the earth, extract wealth from it, and use that wealth to do the thing that you want to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: All that fucking being a human being.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: And capitalism, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But for the vast majority of the time, it's not a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is not something that really is possible in life.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can try to change art is and to art sometimes.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's work to be done there certainly.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can always improve even our lives.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you think that things just ought to be some kind of way and then get angry with people who don't agree with you one or angry with people who aren't trying to actably
[SPEAKER_01]: and vote this new art.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a completely unreasonable.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a pathology.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're a retarded person.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're living in a fucking fantasy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way a child thinks.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I like, I understand where people are coming from when they say we should have free healthcare.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would be fucking awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no such thing as free healthcare because it's still coming from
[SPEAKER_04]: the taxes.
[SPEAKER_04]: But even if you look at these places that have free healthcare, most of those places are subsidized, they don't have to have a military because they're an alliance with the United States and they don't have to pay all these billions of dollars a year towards a military.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're basically, again, another watchdog for another place, which I hate.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they get to have all these cool fancy programs.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we would, too, if we didn't have to be everyone else's military.
[SPEAKER_04]: but also it's still not free at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I like, I've been talking about this a lot on the shows lately, but there's, that one's a good version of the hisot because you're gonna dress it directly and you can bring it back down to the root level and show them where the disconnect is.
[SPEAKER_01]: So somebody says to me, we should have free health care.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: take a beat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What in my opinion, what they're actually seeing, unless they're the full blown communist, most people are not that.
[SPEAKER_01]: What they're actually seeing is that, and the richest country in the history of the world, it's probably unethical for us to tell citizens who pay taxes that you can only be as healthy as you can afford to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is an unethical thing to say to somebody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're talking about the solution to that problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we then put the government in charge of yet another thing that gives them control at risk?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an unacceptable thing for me, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, you have this conversation with people and they'll try to point, well, this country, this country, this country, I don't want to hear about any other country.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the facts that they are on the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: What job have we given government in the last hundred years?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take a size of new jersey.
[SPEAKER_01]: What job have we given government that they performed well or even efficiently, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they tried to run a healthcare website and it fucking crashed for two months or some shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't even figure out the basics and the reason is because
[SPEAKER_01]: If the government fails at something, they just try again with your money.
[SPEAKER_01]: They get bailed out literally every single time.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way the government doesn't get bailed out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But with a private business, if it fails, it goes away and somebody better comes in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have that in government.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you should let the private sector handle that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm not saying to give them full rain over everything because they're about to predatory counts as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest lawsuits and history that didn't involve governments were pharmaceutical companies.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not even close, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the ten largest.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, these people are predators.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's keep an eye on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like government do what it's supposed to do, which is protect us from existential threats, not give us services.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing in the constitution about the goddamn government.
[SPEAKER_01]: Managing our retirement account and our healthcare with the fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would you ever even expect that?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, their job is to protect us from outside existential threats.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and if you want to consider the pharmaceutical industry one of those, good.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why, like, exact which said name something that I've done great is why I stopped being a conspiracy theorist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I was dealt with conspiracy theorists when I was younger.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I went,
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, if they can't even pull off a government health website, what makes you think that they could do this?
[SPEAKER_04]: They can do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that they could pull off something like nine, eleven or something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But somehow, at the same time, they can't run the DMV.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's definitely a lot of conspiracies in government, but the idea that like,
[SPEAKER_01]: George Bush, who almost died eating pretzels, it's some kind of fucking mastermind and like, come on man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's stuff, like people at the ages here pulling shit all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they kill JFK, they have no doubt about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like some of the, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: People at the same time, and I think this is another one of those is odd things.
[SPEAKER_01]: People just don't challenge their fundamental ideology ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can simultaneously believe that this group is completely incompetent, but also that they're the buggy man.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can't be both.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trump can't be the dumbest dude in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also an evil genius can't be both.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably more like Mastermind that what fucking was it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Will Ferrell?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, he's get the lot of stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably a little retarded.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the rest of my group got from the office.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like somehow it just works out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I was talking to somebody on the phone about this the other day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think called him a social Mr. McGoo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like kind of fucking stumbles into success all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, you know, I think what you were saying with that, he ran thing like that could have went horrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: But
[SPEAKER_04]: How do you think you could have gone horribly?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like just engaging more in the Middle East that we don't need to like when I say horribly like starting up a war especially since you know like you said like China isn't as a out-cove in Iran and like these countries like getting involved in something and making it turn into something possible I didn't think World War III was actually gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I thought it could you know start really revving things up a little bit more
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're probably in World War III.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's just fifth generation warfare.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more information and economics and resources now that it is direct conflict.
[SPEAKER_01]: But to the Iran thing, one of the things that Smith kept saying
[SPEAKER_01]: was that Iran has escalatory dominance in the region.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is fucking stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have dominance in anything anywhere on earth, not even in their own country.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fucking tiny hat dudes snuck into their country with a bunch of drones, like ten miles away from their fucking biggest nuclear base.
[SPEAKER_01]: and dislike fucking joystick their way into expo what the fuck you talking about you don't have escalatory dominance anywhere uh... i do so why i don't even see them as a threat like a ran now not really till but i think it's in i think it's an important thing to make sure they don't become a threat because china wants that china wants another dog out there it's what they did with North Korean the nineties
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just weird to me because like with Tulsi, you got a bridge reports at the beginning of the year saying that they weren't a threat and then right before you know this all happened over sudden they were a threat and I was like what happened in that short time span was a couple things happened one as a bunch of Chinese scientists came over to the so-called space program in Iran and they were just trying to build ICBMs.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the part that launched it for us in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they've
[SPEAKER_01]: I've ever tried to make that case, but it's one thing to try to enrich physical material.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's another thing to try to make the rocket that can deliver it, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Iran would be no threat to us with sixty percent in rich uranium that's no threat to us.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, isn't there a radius of what they can actually do?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, doesn't even reach Israel?
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not with a tactical induke or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a mistake that Clinton made in the nineties.
[SPEAKER_01]: North Korea is trying to do the same thing that Iran is doing now, and China really wanted into the World Trade Organization, and Clinton, if he would have been a normal human being and not getting his dicks up by fat Jews, that's not a commentary about Jews, by the way, she just happened to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he was actually doing his goddamn job, he would have said, okay, China, you can come to the WTO, but you're going to stop North Korea from developing these nukes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, and you're going to stop stealing our intellectual property and stop spying on blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't do any of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't let him in and said, hey, do your best, guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what the fuck?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not mistaken.
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't he also sow uranium to Iran?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember if Clinton did that or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean we should we sold fucking chemical weapons to sit out and say it's a why not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, I these foreign entanglements We do it the wrong way and you can tell like
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't benefit rich people to make other people rich necessarily.
[SPEAKER_01]: And other places it benefits them to create chaos so they can sell the solution to chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the military industrial complex does.
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that Ron Paul talked about that I loved when I was younger was the blowback theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every single time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a direct line.
[SPEAKER_01]: We destabilize Iran in fifty-three and then destabilize again in the seventies and the shagots overthrown for commanding and then we have to help Sedam come into power to fucking battle back against him because Sedam is sooning bath party like Syria right so he's gonna fight against them and then we have to help
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... uh... uh... jaxial moddy the moddy army uh... uh... to help fight internally against the dom and then we have to create this group called i actually helped train these dudes sons of a rack uh... to fight against jaxial moddy sons of rack is what became ISIS oh shit like four years later and so one one one one one one it all equals bullshit we did the same thing in Afghanistan with the musiod to the internet and the al-Qaeda we've done this oh yeah we've done radicals around around the world and then we're shocked when they don't like us afterwards
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the things we've done with economic power, the Marshall Plan in Europe, the economic restoration in Japan, the economic restoration in South Korea, South Korea is one of the top technological countries on Earth.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the economic benefit stuff that we've done has been wildly successful.
[SPEAKER_01]: The times we've tried to use force to contradict whether it was in the Middle East or Afghanistan or whether it was in South and Central America, it's been fucked every single time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've created terrorist organizations and cartels and all this fucking bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: When all we had to do was say, hey,
[SPEAKER_01]: My dudes over here, they like fucking cool cheap shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can sell it to us if you stop acting like Kant.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that would have been the end of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: To be honest.
[SPEAKER_04]: It also doesn't help the immigration situation because when a place is established, then all of a sudden we're taking them in.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then the people, you know, like in these low-income neighborhoods that have to deal with a new influx of... That's what the fucking makes me mad dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you grew up in a place that has a lot of...
[SPEAKER_01]: Immigrants isn't the right word for it all the people that come over a lot, but it's like people people who were to stabilize their home country that came here to fucking chill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So think about the Venezuelan or or El Salvador in person who came here to escape trendy Iraqua or MS-III.
[SPEAKER_01]: They fucking packed their whole family up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe lost an encore a kid on the way, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: spent all their money just to come here to get away from those assholes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then twenty years later Joe Biden's sleepy ass lets that same motherfucker that was terrorizing them in their home country come here too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: What the fuck does that see about America that we allow that to happen?
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just in bearers walk right in the door.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's not even like given the middle like my old my old neighborhood Mars Park is used to be a like when my dad grew up there super Italian like only a times of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now I mean and then when I was older Albanians came to neighborhood
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you know, we got a long.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the Albanians.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The European, the old school European Muslims are not like the Middle Eastern Muslims or the North Africans.
[SPEAKER_04]: I went to my old neighborhood the other day and like I'm walking down the street and this is the Serbs and the Albanians and shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not like, no, it's different.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's a completely different culture.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm walking down the street and because the whole neighborhood changed over the past because the Bronx is usually the first part of New York that gets and you could tell who's going to be the next influx of immigrants.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's a lot of people coming from the Middle East and it's like place that used to be like a Italian like now they have like a lamb hanging from window and like I'm walking down the street that used to be all Italian hanging out outside of place and there's burgers and stuff like that and I'm like
[SPEAKER_04]: you know this is direct impact of what we're doing right like this is what happens when you do these things around the world then these people want to save place to go yeah and like those two cultures don't mix Italian and Muslim culture no no definitely not you know definitely not yeah but i mean the Italians they do the thing where they just go alright i'm moving to Florida yeah well um you didn't really have much of a choice up there to know us
[SPEAKER_04]: What's interesting though, too, is because people, they always look at New York as like this, like we're a bunch of liberals and all that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what's so funny is if you go to the outer boroughs and you meet New Yorkers, not people who move there from the Midwest to change the society, then the most Republican people you're ever going to meet in your life.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my whole, my whole neighborhood is all red.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I've lived in Pennsylvania as red, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a couple of spots, a lot of Staten Island too, because we're all the cops live.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not voting for Democrats.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's part.
[SPEAKER_01]: They will for local stuff because of unions, but not for president ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, um, no, they call it New York's Alabama.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you live here now, so that's, yeah, Martin Luther.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna gun legally.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty certain.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that so New Jersey's law is getting challenged right now and federal court and they're gonna lose Yeah, so this hot that like the requirement to and I think that'll strike it down for the rest of the country The requirement to get a permit to just buy a firearm is gonna go away and then this year I think I think next June when the Supreme Court to do it in case is that one will be done I actually love to hear your opinion on this actually because like I'm very pro second amendment and you know open carry
[SPEAKER_04]: but there's something about New York City and just the mental just because it's such a mentally ill city and it's so congested and people on top of each other it is also a scary thought at the same time of how many people if they had guns like don't get wrong I know it's a deterrent but it's also the ease of which because the mentally ill are just it's like the walking dead in that city like they're just walking around I got a knife pulled on me the day before I left
[SPEAKER_04]: like by a homeless guy with no shoes, you know, and it's like, I think that's just nature telling you doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have them having guns, it's also kind of crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a weird pickle that I'm in because I'm so pro-second amendment, but also like
[SPEAKER_04]: This city would be, you know, the amount of people getting shot by accident.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's already enough people getting, there's a lot of people getting shot by accident.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, same thing's happening in Chicago and guns are basically illegal illegal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so it's not a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the way that the way that I think about this is that
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe everybody that can hear me knows at least one person that should know in a gun, even if it's just some slapstick down the street that's a homeless deer that's crazy, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The question then becomes, who gets to decide who's entitled to self-defense?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it the government?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'll never, I don't care how dangerous it gets.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll never agree with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think what we need to do as human beings is twofold.
[SPEAKER_01]: One, start holding people actually accountable, put criminals in prison.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if they fuck up again, put them in prison again.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then another way to hold people accountable is to shoot them in their face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what Daniel Penny did on that subway, I think you should have killed a dude on purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're out there being a predator and fucking, uh, uh, in a public place routinely, getting in people's faces and threatening people, this is fucking unacceptable to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: People are like, how, like,
[SPEAKER_04]: how often that happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to train to the point where you're numb to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if someone just walking around saying, I'm going to kill everybody, you're like, okay, I'm going to keep playing my game.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's it's so just like you're so numb to it in your.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think people should take that threat seriously and that dude should be put down.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you communicate a threat to me, I should be able to fucking put you down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that'll solve it real quick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's telling Candace on the other because of how masculine it is dying.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I was on the train and those of guy would are saying everything except for the word rape in a girl's ear and you know like everyone fucking pussy in New York I'm watching this happen and I see the girl start crying and I was like are you okay and she's like no and I was like comes next to me and I stand up
[SPEAKER_04]: Thinking that all these other bearded fucking dudes are gonna do something about it and I'm though when I stand up and if people don't stand up like I could have gotten the shit stay up down and we thank god the guy was a bitch but like no one else stood up no one else wanted to get up no one else wanted to do anything about it and it's
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it because of Daniel Penny situation?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, or is it because they're soft?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not too sure, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: People don't want to do anything about it on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I mean, this is going to be a hot take, but I think that they need to bring men's institutions back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was rigged by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: They get rid of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mental institutions, machine guns, tripled national debt, Iran, Contra, Reagan was a shitty president.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why people idolize him so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because if you just let these mentally ill people walk the streets and then like, could you imagine, it's to me I was living right before I left those guys who stabbed a bunch of people in the streets, just another homeless guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, I can't believe I'm paying this much money to walk around actual mental patients.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have to act like this is okay or else I'm looked at as a bad person.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, why should these people just be allowed?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I know it's some people think it's fucked up to say, but why should they be walking the streets when they should be in care with people, like getting the mental health that they need instead of just pretending everything's okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because without that, you have, like, you could have guns in New York.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it just talks again, but the, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's another version of his odd fallacy.
[SPEAKER_01]: it is it's it's the erosion of masculinity being replaced by feminine and he where it doesn't belong to be yes right like certainly mom's biggest threat and I know you probably knew even though your mom passed early you probably knew this institutionly mom's biggest threat when you're a child is that's going to be home soon oh yeah that's the worst thing you hear from mom but mom's churping and fucking smack in you with the with the shoe or whatever the phone spoon
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, all right, man, I can do, I can take a seat there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But dad's coming home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That used to be the big threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not because...
[SPEAKER_01]: that mom wouldn't have been capable of dulling out some justice, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like biologically, we're programmed to fear dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you shouldn't be.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was like a mafia, like a mob boss.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I would do something to break just wait to your father down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And my dad would come in like a hitman, like it's not the personal, the boss sent me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because dad just wants to come home and relax and drink a beer and you've like interrupted that now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Especially, yeah, my dad was a Craig Souser, so he spoke a whole day in jail, and now he's going to deal with me being an asshole.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, but that's the thing that's what culture needs.
[SPEAKER_01]: We decided to start respecting women, and that's a good plan, but we decided to put them in charge, and that's a stupid plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Women should be a charge of anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think Kathy Holtzos would be hard in New York?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's a good thing I'm white, because I know what this computer is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: No women shouldn't be, I don't think women are biologically programmed to be in charge of shit like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's never been that way before, and it wasn't because men were trying to stop them from doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's never been one matriarchal society in the history of the fucking world, not one ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not just because we're bigger and stronger because we've had presidents that were five foot three.
[SPEAKER_01]: James Madison was a midget.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't because we were big and strong.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was because women wanted us in charge.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's funny about that is because when girls say, oh, well, we'll get a manner in charge as all these wars and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: The couple times that women have been in charge statistically have started more wars than any men.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bloody Mary was pretty rough.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Victorian area.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: Statistically, they start a lot of fucking wars when they're in charge.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, technically World War I is a result of Queen Victoria, because she kind of worked behind the scenes to get her nephews in charge of all three countries involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Kaiser, the German Kaiser, the Russian leader and the English, obviously the English leader was her grandson.
[SPEAKER_01]: She kind of worked behind the scenes to marry off people and make sure that her family was in charge of Europe and then three cousins who were retarded.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a gang is kind type of situation sort of yeah, but she wasn't breeding them.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was just married them off to other royal families.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd be part of their bloodlines and take over power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that you know that worked out well the blood the bloodiest war in history of human beings as a result of a woman's meddling.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing
[SPEAKER_01]: massaging is about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Women are meant to do things.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That there's a reason why it's never happened successfully ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's because it wasn't meant to.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the things that they are good are fucking awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what we're now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And very necessary and they're not getting done either right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why when we down put like when we down play women doing these roles, it's pretty fucking awesome that you could literally create a human.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like why are we down playing that that's not the most amazing thing in the world?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right now we've got us a culture that has been invaded by femininity at the leadership level and we are seeing the results of that and then on the other end we're seeing declining birth rate in almost every major country on earth.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's funny is because I'm I'm thirty five so I grew up with like I'd say like
[SPEAKER_04]: like a lot of what feminism is now is like really started when I was younger and I'm watching these girls who when I was younger would say I don't need a man and I don't need this and I don't care about my job and now I'm watching a lot of them freaking the fuck out because they realized and like oh shit they were lied to yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a cool job, but now I don't have a family and I have no kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I see some of them dating, I'm seeing the most liberal girls I know dating conservative dudes because they actually want to have a family.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole meme about it now where liberal women in cities are like, am I really gonna have to start dating or conservatives?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, man was always supposed to be the conservatives.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were supposed to be the liberal.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what conservative liberal and government are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, masculine and feminine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is this such a goddamn mystery to everybody?
[SPEAKER_04]: Dude, it was so weird as like, I wasn't dating intentionally, it was just like, you know, because I knew I was leaving.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the amount of girls that had like blue hair, nose rings, that were like,
[SPEAKER_04]: That were coming to me on these dating apps like they I'd see them they already swiped right on me and I and I'd meet over them when we'd hang out and they would almost feel bad about it But they'd also say like it's nice that a guy could actually lift me up You know Which is said and the they just actually agree with that I think that a man should be able to curl his woman a hundred each the man's strong and the woman not fat Yeah, right you're both responsible
[SPEAKER_01]: If in your relationship, you can't curl your wife and your wife can't be curled by you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's at fault, probably both of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you guys work together and fix that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was so nice to have a guy that was able to pick me up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, what have you been dating?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dudes with no shoulders.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't trust men with no shoulders.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the sneaky fucker.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you're familiar with this, but there's a
[SPEAKER_01]: with manatees and sea lions and other animals like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's one alpha dude who's called the beach master, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he bangs all the girls.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he will fight you if you try to come bang one.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then around the berm are all the sneaky fuckers.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other may of the outcast males.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the clever ones will wait for him to go to sleep and sneak in and sleep.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're called sneaky fuckers, but they use
[SPEAKER_01]: sub-defuge in social strategies just like a woman would to come free with that right that this is what happens in and in male female society as well like as soon as women are a little bit distracted or angry at a man or some bullshit like that some do with no shoulders can actually birth control is done most of it
[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say that fucks people up badly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's actually really good study on this where women are on birth control.
[SPEAKER_01]: They marry some limp dick dude and then they want some of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They come off birth control and what's what?
[SPEAKER_04]: Progesterone does to their body.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's like really, it's really not great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the theory behind it is the fact that when you're on birth control of feed, your body is flooded with progesterone.
[SPEAKER_04]: So when you're pregnant, you're not in that mode, like I need to find, it's not that survival mode, where I need someone to protect me, I need someone to birth me.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you have that more relaxed way of being like, oh, I don't need that.
[SPEAKER_04]: As if, like how a girl who's already pregnant and pregnant, it would someone who's going to take care of them has.
[SPEAKER_04]: So when they're not,
[SPEAKER_01]: then all of a sudden these girls are coming off and they're like oh yeah guys gay yeah you know it happens a lot a lot of divorces happen after the first child because uh which is sad you know like the
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the most important resources on earth is vagina, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the most of the drive on earth, like the reason that dudes build civilization and put spoilers on their own houses, whatever, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the stuff that drives economies happen as a result of then trying to impress women and that's a very important thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why we have our hair done right now is deep down before that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the thing that drives pretty much every facet of the economy is based on men trying to impress women.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when, you know, certainly women played their role in it, but you're a dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear you bitching.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to be in charge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fuck are you complaining?
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut the fuck up and go do your work.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear anything else about it to be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: All these fucking
[SPEAKER_01]: These dudes that call themselves Sigma males these days that just fucking play video games and pound off all the times like you're a fucking gay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I don't know what I don't even know how that's even like an alpha mentality going the other way from pussy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's very it's very uh
[SPEAKER_01]: That might be the biggest cop in the history of human beings, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you're, I'm sure you remember from high school, some do get shot down.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was all that girls will lesbian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's kind of, honestly, it's kind of funny at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you make that your entire world view about all women, then you're gay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably just give up, dude, because you're not gonna make it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think a lot of those dudes are undercover, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, probably, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, we got a guy who can do this other show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell everybody where they can find you or your comedy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you getting any specials coming up in there?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm on everything at Nott Nick Simmons, Instagram, TikTok, all that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And me and Brian counter on tour right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So every year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: For the last one, four years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, four years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're going to, uh, Alfreda, Atlanta, Georgia next.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then that's where my co-host is from.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we're going there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually this weekend, then we're in Charleston, South Carolina, the San Diego.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thanks for coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for having me here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all for listening.