WEBVTT 00:00.311 --> 00:12.580 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the Jockel Underground podcast number one seventy four city here with echo Charles we're gonna review some of your questions and provide courses of actions that will help you through various scenarios. 00:12.600 --> 00:13.701 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we got. 00:14.141 --> 00:16.102 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright cool first question. 00:17.143 --> 00:19.345 [SPEAKER_00]: Good evening, Jockel and Admiral Charles. 00:24.588 --> 00:26.449 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a dichotomy of sorts. 00:27.049 --> 00:28.049 [SPEAKER_00]: I've embraced the path. 00:28.309 --> 00:30.390 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to your podcasts and your books, I've read the mall. 00:31.350 --> 00:32.211 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to much better place. 00:33.011 --> 00:36.412 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm linking up a five thirty to work out for two hours. 00:36.592 --> 00:38.613 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm only eating clean and tracking my macros. 00:38.973 --> 00:43.654 [SPEAKER_00]: As a result, I've gained eight kilograms with just eighteen pounds of lean muscle. 00:44.775 --> 00:50.717 [SPEAKER_00]: However, in one of your earlier podcasts, you said you'd want an operator to be built like a truck and not like a Porsche. 00:51.537 --> 00:53.678 [SPEAKER_00]: As I'm training for selection for Portuguese SOF, 00:56.251 --> 01:07.822 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if I should continue with my quote of what clean routine, or if I should train with less sleep, a crappier diet, eating sand, eating sand, and no warm up instead. 01:08.883 --> 01:13.968 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm afraid I might get back to my old self and become less disciplined if I follow the latter course of action. 01:14.228 --> 01:21.015 [SPEAKER_00]: Thus hindering the work that I've put in and still have to put in to be a hundred percent ready for the selection. 01:21.907 --> 01:26.051 [SPEAKER_00]: In addition, I also fear that training in those conditions would make me more injury prone. 01:26.772 --> 01:35.360 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I was wondering if you had any tricks to prevent or deal with colds and injuries during buds when you couldn't take supplements. 01:36.561 --> 01:38.223 [SPEAKER_00]: Or if you just beat the F through it. 01:38.943 --> 01:39.604 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for all your guys. 01:40.004 --> 01:41.225 [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for all the good work you do. 01:41.526 --> 01:42.447 [SPEAKER_00]: That will keep crushing. 01:42.987 --> 01:43.387 [SPEAKER_00]: Cruising. 01:43.407 --> 01:44.828 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 01:44.848 --> 01:45.749 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pressing record. 01:47.310 --> 01:47.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude. 01:48.311 --> 01:50.333 [SPEAKER_01]: I got a little fan out there, huh? 01:50.433 --> 01:53.515 [SPEAKER_01]: So check it out. 01:54.235 --> 01:55.176 [SPEAKER_01]: Combat is not pretty. 01:56.017 --> 01:56.837 [SPEAKER_01]: It is chaotic. 01:57.538 --> 02:06.604 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not by any means constrained to the niceties of life. 02:07.505 --> 02:19.914 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to imagine I don't know too much about Portuguese soft and their selection process, but I'm guessing that the selection is going to be similar to most special operations selection courses. 02:19.934 --> 02:21.055 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a gut check. 02:23.557 --> 02:31.222 [SPEAKER_01]: So that being said, I think it's cool to keep up these kind of high performance droggo style workouts, and I'm not talking about droggo this seal. 02:32.403 --> 02:33.263 [SPEAKER_01]: My brother, Drago. 02:33.283 --> 02:33.923 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not talking about that. 02:33.964 --> 02:34.264 [SPEAKER_01]: Drago. 02:34.284 --> 02:35.284 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about the movie. 02:36.424 --> 02:37.324 [SPEAKER_01]: Ivan Drago, right? 02:38.485 --> 02:41.806 [SPEAKER_01]: So this sounds like this guy's doing Drago type workouts, right? 02:42.086 --> 02:48.748 [SPEAKER_01]: In the digital with the computer and all that stuff as opposed to the rocky workouts in the snow. 02:49.955 --> 02:52.876 [SPEAKER_01]: in the barn with the axe, right? 02:53.136 --> 02:54.616 [SPEAKER_01]: So those are sort of the dirty. 02:55.136 --> 03:01.077 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would probably integrate some of that into your workout, right? 03:01.097 --> 03:04.738 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to get, you don't want to miss out on anything, you want to miss out on any training. 03:04.758 --> 03:08.938 [SPEAKER_01]: Because there are legit things where if you're just not used to it, it could catch you. 03:10.819 --> 03:16.140 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe do some random gut checks once every three or four days, do something that just sucks, you know? 03:16.320 --> 03:16.480 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, 03:18.160 --> 03:45.595 [SPEAKER_01]: run four miles carrying a sandbag or do five hundred burpees or you know Farmers carry for a mile one hand with whatever pounds gonna hurt you see what I'm saying like doing some stuff like that Because if you do some stuff like that you're gonna be prepared you're gonna learn how to adapt to it and you're gonna be a little bit tougher because of it As far as as far as 03:47.997 --> 04:10.215 [SPEAKER_01]: diet goes I actually think I would inject a little bit of like a little bit of dirtiness into the diet because you don't want to get I've seen people that would react badly to not the best food and again I'm assuming that in your selection process you're not going to get the best food maybe sometimes you won't get much food at all maybe sometimes you'll get you know meal ready to eat from the military 04:10.955 --> 04:13.657 [SPEAKER_01]: Or you'll get some, some chow haul a slopp. 04:14.418 --> 04:17.981 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're not gonna get some perfectly, you know, zone perfect food. 04:20.143 --> 04:21.424 [SPEAKER_01]: And so you don't want that to upset you. 04:21.444 --> 04:26.808 [SPEAKER_01]: So probably yeah, like once a week, maybe do some, maybe, you know, like a cheat day type thing. 04:27.649 --> 04:29.730 [SPEAKER_01]: But just eat some regular food. 04:29.790 --> 04:30.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't lose your mind. 04:30.851 --> 04:32.913 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying? 04:32.993 --> 04:34.234 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't go crazy. 04:35.455 --> 04:39.358 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you don't eat some stuff that's maybe not perfect. 04:41.537 --> 04:46.840 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and I'll tell you if this kind of stuff, it's like you're worried about you're losing your, your, your discipline. 04:47.841 --> 04:53.324 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, if you're worried about that from having a cheat day and doing some dirty workouts, you got bigger problems. 04:53.464 --> 04:54.505 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't think you will. 04:55.306 --> 04:56.987 [SPEAKER_01]: I either you're worried about something you shouldn't be worried about. 04:59.308 --> 05:01.950 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and also you ask about no warm up. 05:02.170 --> 05:09.314 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sometimes you just do stuff like again, you don't want to do a heavy deadlift with no warm up. 05:09.374 --> 05:10.195 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be stupid. 05:11.114 --> 05:18.796 [SPEAKER_01]: But to go out and go for run without a, like a, I can't want to do a four minute cycle and then I'm going to do a stretch and then I'll do my run. 05:19.056 --> 05:22.798 [SPEAKER_01]: No, like someone would you go out, pace yourself so you don't blow out a hammy. 05:22.818 --> 05:25.699 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the most common industry in injury. 05:25.979 --> 05:27.659 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just blowing out a hammy doing sprints. 05:29.040 --> 05:30.300 [SPEAKER_01]: You've been blowing a hammy doing sprints? 05:32.737 --> 05:34.599 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I pulled my own string in football. 05:34.659 --> 05:35.179 [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. 05:35.280 --> 05:36.280 [SPEAKER_01]: So you blow now to him. 05:36.300 --> 05:36.781 [SPEAKER_01]: He doing something. 05:37.101 --> 05:39.103 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a real common thing that can have you don't want to do that. 05:39.764 --> 05:47.751 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, you don't want to have you don't want to require a perfect warm up every time you do a workout or every time you get tasked with something challenging. 05:48.412 --> 05:51.335 [SPEAKER_01]: Because in the field, you're not going to get a warm up, right? 05:51.375 --> 05:54.378 [SPEAKER_01]: You just all some people start shooting at you and you got to get got it down man. 05:54.398 --> 05:55.779 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to just pick them up and carry them there. 05:55.819 --> 05:57.621 [SPEAKER_01]: I know warm up involved. 05:59.588 --> 06:02.212 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I would do there. 06:03.914 --> 06:12.805 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I would say what I'm saying is induce a little bit of chaos, a little bit of combat, a little bit of chaos combat to your workouts to your diet, a little bit of chaos. 06:13.666 --> 06:16.470 [SPEAKER_01]: Selection, I can about guarantee is there's going to be some chaotic moments. 06:18.050 --> 06:19.471 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you do that, you'll be in a good spot. 06:19.511 --> 06:23.494 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you're also wondering if I had any tricks to deal with cold or injuries during Buds. 06:24.435 --> 06:27.938 [SPEAKER_01]: When you couldn't take supplements, you don't need supplements to overcome anything. 06:29.639 --> 06:37.685 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we even had, I guess there were supplements when I went to Buds, but no one, I didn't know one person that took any supplements. 06:39.106 --> 06:40.447 [SPEAKER_01]: I think somebody had a power bar. 06:41.708 --> 06:42.689 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember power bars? 06:43.890 --> 06:45.272 [SPEAKER_01]: I think people had power bars. 06:45.312 --> 06:47.514 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I tried them and I was like, this thing tastes terrible. 06:47.774 --> 06:47.954 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 06:48.055 --> 06:48.655 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of chill. 06:49.036 --> 06:52.039 [SPEAKER_01]: But there wasn't any big supplementation thing. 06:52.079 --> 06:58.785 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, just eat some good food, some whole food, occasionally eat some crappy food just to make sure your gut can handle it. 06:59.766 --> 07:01.969 [SPEAKER_01]: But here's the other thing. 07:02.149 --> 07:04.271 [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna be sick and you're gonna be injured during training. 07:05.432 --> 07:07.753 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like fighters going into fight in the UFC. 07:08.413 --> 07:09.854 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I got a little bit of a spring ankle. 07:09.874 --> 07:10.414 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course you do. 07:10.875 --> 07:11.855 [SPEAKER_01]: I got a little bit of a tweak shoulder. 07:11.875 --> 07:12.395 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course you do. 07:12.976 --> 07:14.136 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got my ribs. 07:14.156 --> 07:15.377 [SPEAKER_01]: I got hit in the ribs. 07:15.477 --> 07:16.037 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course. 07:16.057 --> 07:16.717 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't go to a fight. 07:16.737 --> 07:17.638 [SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent doesn't happen. 07:18.959 --> 07:22.100 [SPEAKER_01]: And in selection, you're going to be, you're going to have a spring ankle. 07:22.400 --> 07:24.361 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a hurt elbow. 07:24.661 --> 07:26.902 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be coughing up, you know, snott. 07:26.942 --> 07:29.684 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be sick as a dog. 07:29.704 --> 07:32.265 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to be injured. 07:34.211 --> 07:35.392 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's just the way it is. 07:36.352 --> 07:37.473 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's no factor. 07:37.693 --> 07:38.674 [SPEAKER_01]: Just doing what you think about it. 07:39.614 --> 07:40.715 [SPEAKER_01]: Just don't even think about it. 07:40.795 --> 07:41.615 [SPEAKER_01]: Just keep going. 07:42.796 --> 07:46.658 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you're right now while you're training, if you're sick, like go, go work out. 07:47.098 --> 07:47.599 [SPEAKER_01]: Do what you can. 07:48.099 --> 07:48.699 [SPEAKER_01]: Got a little injury. 07:48.739 --> 07:49.240 [SPEAKER_01]: Do what you can. 07:49.880 --> 07:50.640 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't hurt yourself. 07:50.960 --> 07:53.502 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't get yourself sicker, but go do what you can. 07:56.725 --> 07:57.185 [SPEAKER_01]: No factor. 07:58.046 --> 07:59.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's kind of where I'm at. 07:59.806 --> 08:01.127 [SPEAKER_01]: Less sleep, yeah, occasionally. 08:01.747 --> 08:07.830 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you would have feels like to do the less sleep thing, because he's asking if I should train with less sleep, crap your diet, and no warm up. 08:08.210 --> 08:08.950 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, yes, yes. 08:09.690 --> 08:11.911 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, optimize, don't do it all the time. 08:12.772 --> 08:25.177 [SPEAKER_01]: You need sleep to recover, but like maybe, I don't know what you do for a job, but you know, maybe on Fridays instead of going out to the bar, getting drunk or whatever, I don't think you're doing that, but instead of doing something stupid, 08:26.422 --> 08:28.944 [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't simulate selection. 08:29.224 --> 08:31.486 [SPEAKER_01]: Do something stupid that does simulate selection. 08:32.447 --> 08:33.688 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying? 08:34.148 --> 08:40.314 [SPEAKER_01]: Like do like sleep three hours and four hours or something like that and get up and go do run and see how you feel while you're doing that. 08:40.334 --> 08:41.955 [SPEAKER_01]: And then take it to nap in the afternoon and be fine. 08:43.436 --> 08:44.237 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would do that. 08:44.417 --> 08:46.078 [SPEAKER_01]: I would introduce a little chaos to your world. 08:46.779 --> 08:47.980 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to be a Porsche. 08:48.200 --> 08:51.183 [SPEAKER_01]: You want to be a four by four and you'll be in a better spot. 08:52.511 --> 08:53.011 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I got. 08:54.573 --> 09:06.121 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say that's probably one of the like weak links where you get someone who's like really, as you would say, stud physically, but introduce to the slightest adversity and then I used to that. 09:06.721 --> 09:10.224 [SPEAKER_00]: So mentally, it'll feel like your body's breaking down. 09:11.125 --> 09:14.247 [SPEAKER_00]: Like my body's injuring itself right now, but it's really not. 09:14.287 --> 09:16.689 [SPEAKER_00]: You're just not used to that kind of adversity physically, you know? 09:16.709 --> 09:17.069 [SPEAKER_00]: You're fine. 09:17.189 --> 09:18.050 [SPEAKER_00]: So mentally, yeah, yeah. 09:18.430 --> 09:19.451 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you got a cold or whatever. 09:19.771 --> 09:20.032 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 09:20.152 --> 09:21.153 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're coughing up or whatever. 09:22.554 --> 09:23.595 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 09:23.755 --> 09:25.496 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 09:26.217 --> 09:27.378 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the way that it does. 09:27.558 --> 09:27.778 [SPEAKER_01]: Cool. 09:28.279 --> 09:28.759 [SPEAKER_01]: No one cares. 09:28.779 --> 09:31.442 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with clean PT, Brad, if you're sick, you better rest. 09:32.212 --> 09:32.912 [SPEAKER_00]: It's rest time. 09:32.992 --> 09:34.633 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, your ankle is out, bro. 09:34.653 --> 09:37.354 [SPEAKER_00]: You better not be doing any kind of squats on that ankle. 09:37.394 --> 09:38.154 [SPEAKER_00]: It won't heal up. 09:38.274 --> 09:40.995 [SPEAKER_00]: You seem saying you won't be at your best, you know? 09:41.455 --> 09:42.256 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not about that. 09:42.396 --> 09:43.116 [SPEAKER_00]: This BTF. 09:43.496 --> 09:45.737 [SPEAKER_01]: BTF, BTF, BTF, BTF, BTF. 09:46.397 --> 09:50.019 [SPEAKER_01]: For again, actual BTF, Tony like broke his damn. 09:51.299 --> 09:57.962 [SPEAKER_01]: So, that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the Jocco Underground podcast. 09:58.002 --> 09:59.062 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to continue to listen, 10:00.945 --> 10:27.332 [SPEAKER_01]: go to jockelonderground.com and subscribe and we're doing this we're doing this to mitigate our reliance on external platforms so we are not subject to their control and we are doing this so that we can support the jockel podcast which will remain as is free for all as long as we can keep it that way but we but we are doing this so we don't have to be under the control of 10:28.032 --> 10:48.598 [SPEAKER_01]: sponsors, and we're doing it so we can give you more control, more interaction, more direct connections, better communications with us, and to do that, we are building a website right now, where we'll build the utilize to strengthen this legion of troopers that are in the game with us. 10:48.978 --> 10:51.719 [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, it's jacco underground.com. 10:52.059 --> 10:56.981 [SPEAKER_01]: It costs eight dollars and eighteen cents a month, and if you can't afford to support us, 10:58.550 --> 11:04.618 [SPEAKER_01]: We can still support you, just email assistance at jockelonaground.com and we'll get you taken care of. 11:04.939 --> 11:10.707 [SPEAKER_01]: Until then, we will see you mobilized underground.