[SPEAKER_04]: Do you play competitive golf zone?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you play, do you put stakes down?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, certainly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If that counts as competitive gambling with your friends, then certainly, I play competitive golf.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you do in that environment?
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it depends on the day overall.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like certainly, I used to be a meltdown.
[SPEAKER_02]: head case.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, you know, black myself out if things were going bad around when would the meltdown occur?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, was there pretty quick?
[SPEAKER_02]: If I made like a double thing, like things would get hot in the head and then that would compound other mistakes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it would just be just a nuclear red alert.
[SPEAKER_02]: House of cards.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very very feeble mental toughness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you a fragile person?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I would say no generally, but like I can beat the shit out of myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Most other people coming at me won't do too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of lean into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like giving shit back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying not to do it as much anymore, but like with like streaming and people in my chat, like when people
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to look at the negative comments and ignore the ninety-nine positive comments.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just play you with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want a negative, I'll, ooh, and then what do you do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what's the one comment that you think you responded the best, too?
[SPEAKER_02]: That was negative.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's just anyone like if someone tells me I got like shit on or like, you know, I like fell off or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like just coming into like just be a dickhead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're using the time out of your day to watch me play video games.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a real fucking winner.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then with saying that, I'm sending a complete like shot to everyone in the chat.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is like supporting me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just like a piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just snap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we've we've we've tempered it down quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know who does really well with with that kind of stuff like the negative comments that come in from people you've never met Gary Vee have you seen the way he talks about it?
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen the way he talks about it, but I do love the way he talks.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's he's just got this whole take where he's like He's basically like I mean he kind of takes a shot at them from like almost like a kindness angle or he's like
[SPEAKER_04]: could you believe somebody with that much negative energy would come in and say something to someone they've never met like you have to have compassion for this person and he you know he's a he's a really fast talker so he he says a lot in a little bit but it is kind of like uh... it's funny actually was do you know what brought white yes completed yes i played golf with him recently as a member of burden right yeah and uh... we were talking about yeah was with two guys the other guy in the group big trump guy and so
[SPEAKER_04]: and the other guy I'm playing golf with.
[SPEAKER_04]: They weren't going into it about Trump, but what they could both agree on was that the biggest problem was actually not about the president, it was about the comment section, just in general.
[SPEAKER_04]: Lucas runs an older guy and he's like, I hate.
[SPEAKER_04]: the idea that anyone sort of can just sort of about some negative code.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: There needs to, I think there needs to be like social is tied with accounts on the internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the fact that you can just say whatever you just say, whatever you want, it might not be true.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could just spread falsities wherever you want on any platform under any post at all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like people people obviously say horrible shit, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know, this one is that I, in my feet, has a lot of aviation stuff, like airplanes, okay, specifically, you know, cure out cities like like a lot of times like the disaster kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like I was the first person to know that the survivor from the area in the flight was in seat eleven a. You were tapped in feel like I got that news pretty quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: What on TikTok or what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't do TikTok.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, you don't seem like a doom scroller.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but you do doom scroll and Instagram.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I've actually realized I have a problem, which is that my porn is actually not, like, doom scrolling isn't it, but it's sort of like, I'm basically scrolling through negative real life.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's all, it's all firing into your brain the same way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, essentially.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like the, it's not like the weather channel that's like, oh, it's going to rain.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's more just like,
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, here's the effects climate change is having.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or like, this is why planes are struggling to fly safely.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you went through about a year where you were, you really wanted to talk about the end of the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm about to leave it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm about to reset.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, good.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, because I think this is turning into a whole thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But ultimately, the point of it all was that the comment section could be one of the,
[SPEAKER_04]: Could be one of the hardest parts about being alive today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I totally agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not good for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Funge and not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just had a little a little spout with the comments section.
[SPEAKER_02]: I posted my first golf related video and probably like seven months.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was me playing fifteen at my field and I just posted it for fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just did a quick voiceover and did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has like one point five million views on Twitter right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of the video, I say I'm a seven handy cap which I am, but my swings kind of ugly.
[SPEAKER_02]: and I'll admit that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've known it's ugly and I make fun of myself for all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need you because I know it's shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Believe me, I tell myself every day it's shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But just so many people were just talking about how I can't be a seven-handy cap because of the swing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just not how the handicap system works.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was just a lot of stupidity in the comments and I found myself kind of leaning into the negative instead of just leaning into the positive being like, great video, ha ha.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't reply to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't favor that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone's like, you're swing sucks and you tattoo suck and I'm like,
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going for that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you say?
[SPEAKER_02]: Should we go through and look?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, we could.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're pretty bad points people are trying to make.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, your swing is this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't shoot this number.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, that's just not true, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not how it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, people are like, if you shot this number, you can't be this handicapped.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's also not how it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just people being kind of ignorant to the fact of how the handicapped system works.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would just love to see you like at a in a small auditorium with a podium with everyone who's ever negatively commented and just sort of like you kind of like educating them about some things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I definitely when you had when I was big on the gaming space and like really big like really controlling it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll it'll feed your ego in the wrong way when you have ten thousand people kind of laughing at everything you say and
[SPEAKER_02]: pretty much agreeing with everything you say so I would I would probably say that I had kind of an echo chamber going on in the twitch chat so I probably thought I was right in a lot of cases that I was wrong in yeah we've toned it back a little bit but certainly back in the day I was I was weaponized for sure by my chat oh they would they would sort of stand behind would it oh yeah oh my god
[SPEAKER_02]: They were vicious.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like you mean you mean like someone says something negative and I go with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thousands of other people are going out of them too.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it got bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I was known in the apex community as my community were like fucking braces of shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I loved it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And how's that going?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean it went fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I regret some things but at the end of the day I can't change it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was fun while I lasted certainly.
[SPEAKER_02]: In terms of like the actual job, it's definitely like on a downtrend, just twitch viewership, apex, and general, I'm kind of confused on what to do right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I haven't worked in two days because I don't know what to play.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all just going down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know it today.
[SPEAKER_04]: The phrase you just uttered is a wild phrase.
[SPEAKER_04]: You said, I haven't worked in two days because I don't know what to play.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can start there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, like obviously people know who you are.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: How did it all start?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, started streaming because my buddies wanted to watch me play Fortnite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just high school friends, five to ten people in chat at most.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just watched me play Fortnite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Apex came out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was kind of a surprise release.
[SPEAKER_02]: We pause there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to keep digging in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So your buddies wanted to watch you play Fortnite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was better than the average person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Significantly better than the average.
[SPEAKER_02]: person on a, on a scale in which, you know, there's fifty guys that play Fortnite that we talked to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was the best one out of the fifty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because at this point, is this before like streaming?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, streaming had been around.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, streaming was dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was watching streamers at the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was very much around in popular.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this, I was not early and on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you're just, cause Fortnite is a game that you play with.
[SPEAKER_02]: How many other people typically?
[SPEAKER_02]: You can play with full up to four back in the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: You play quads or do us.
[SPEAKER_02]: But or solo.
[SPEAKER_01]: To answer your question, there's a hundred people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who play?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a hundred people in a game.
[SPEAKER_04]: A hundred people in a game.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And your goal is to be number one.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's to be the last man standing because essentially I've seen the game played.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm terrible at this, but you're locked in.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be an incredible podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's actually Fortnite is a game.
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw my nephew play it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the goal is to just stay alive longer than everybody else.
[SPEAKER_04]: Essentially.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are they?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not shooting at you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are they?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're absolutely shooting at you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you've got nine hundred people against you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: How many video games have you played?
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't played a video game in the last thirty years.
[SPEAKER_04]: I played some retro ones.
[SPEAKER_04]: I played double dragon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't know that one.
[SPEAKER_04]: How run?
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, guys, do you know what a fucking arcade is?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you know how you retro?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I used to steal a twenty from like right above the coats and underneath the hats and my parents' closet.
[SPEAKER_04]: They would have the ATM envelope.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I would take a twenty out.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would go a long way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Turn it into quarters.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, and I would just run them through the machine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Twenty five cents a pop.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so double dragon outrun and then yeah, I mean I had a video.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had like a I had like a Sega.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that a game boy?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Sega Genesis.
[SPEAKER_04]: We had a game boy, but that wasn't as interesting as the Sega Genesis.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Sonic the Hedgehog.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but I'm like when games became that you could play against other people who were alive.
[SPEAKER_04]: I never had that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: maybe except for like chess on my house so so okay so so and you but like is there like a national ranking for fortnight even if you're not a streamer oh yeah there's leaderboards certainly but you get those are gonna be defined in tournaments like with qualifications and stuff like that and then they compete in the tournaments and okay those leaderboards are always gonna be shifting it's not like one static like
[SPEAKER_02]: A static staying still or moving.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's staying still.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one static leader with it's not like golf.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of always shifting, but it's tournaments and tournaments and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you were just, what were you doing when you were good at Fortnite?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was smoking a lot of weed, not going to class.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, in college.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, being shithead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: The standard.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you were better than a lot of people at Fortnite, but that's not why you became a streamer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I did it because I was good at Fortnite.
[SPEAKER_02]: My personality is kind of the reason I got to where I met.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that didn't really come about until Apex dropped.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we'll go fast forward to there.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's Apex?
[SPEAKER_04]: Apex has never heard of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a battle royale as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's similar to Fortnite in some senses where you drop in, you loot up and you want to be the last one standing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Three man teams, no building.
[SPEAKER_02]: No fun e-mote, there are no fun dancing, no fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, essentially, it's a battle royale.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when you drop in with nothing and level up your armor and your guns and try to be the last team standing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And how many levels are in apex?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a road question.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's endless levels.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't give, I don't give.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just means I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It keeps going.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, is the game just as many players are in an apex lobby?
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you win apex?
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd last from standing.
[SPEAKER_02]: How long does that take?
[SPEAKER_02]: That takes about, depending on the lobby, it takes about twelve to twenty-one minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then so when twenty-one minutes is over, what happens?
[SPEAKER_02]: The game ends if you win and then you go back to Lobby and you press Q and you do that and you Q again, you see press Triangle or Enter and you go play another one and you set there for about twelve hours and then you're brain melts and then you get off.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, so if you win, you just play another game.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which just resets at zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and there's, I mean, there's a ranked system.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a ranked system that you do get points in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you get points based on placement and kills combined and you're trying to go for a certain rank.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is every game the same?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: This background's different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is the world different?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's quite like golf.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are different maps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no game.
[SPEAKER_02]: No fight is ever the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's the same fee.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be dropping, yeah, you're going to be dropping, like there's a lot of similarities, which is why I'm pretty cooked on it, and I think the majority of the community and player base is also pretty done with it, because it just, that's why Fortnite's so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're getting into a different topic here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Fortnite, you've got to keep things fresh with games or else they get stale in people dip.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Apex has done a pretty bad job of that over the years.
[SPEAKER_02]: The core mechanics of Apex are some of the best ever in terms of gunplay, which is how you're gun operates with your person and how the gun shoots.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have a physical gun in the room.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not in the room.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you have?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a life?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you use this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, control.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could be an addition of a gun, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That'll be, give it ten years.
[SPEAKER_02]: That'll be real.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard that idea before.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would want to wear a vest in a gun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to be in, have you seen ready player one?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is really the every time you play Apex.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks exactly the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a map rotation every twenty four hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's within the past two years.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've added that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So each map changes every twenty four hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to change.
[SPEAKER_02]: But does the background look the same?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when the map changes every day the game looks a little different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not necessarily.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to look different from the day before, but each gain you drop into twenty minutes from now and twenty minute intervals.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're dropping in.
[SPEAKER_02]: How many times have you played Apex?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how many games?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's side can't even put a number on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ten thousand?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: More of these.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: More than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you get six years that I've been playing at?
[SPEAKER_01]: We can fast math.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you put stage stream for eight hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're pretty think you're getting in like hundred games.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Six hours.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, twenty minutes again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty minutes a game.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'd say it's a game on average.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say I mean you could do eighteen games and you got to be for twenty minutes is if you win there's a lot of times you don't win really.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's your win to not win?
[SPEAKER_04]: No idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ten percent should I have looked at this up for I came in.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean let's track it up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Should have brought you talk to apex leadership at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm actually blacklisted.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wait, you can't play anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I blacklisted from competitive in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: EA and responding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: because I would shit talk to a game like very it's getting back to the point of how I was kind of a piece of shit before right I was very out right and I had had a voice in the community and I used that voice to kind of be very negative with the like there was a lot of shit that was wrong with the game and on update days they'd fuck up things and instead of like kind of thinking about my future business wise I would just kind of say what I wanted to at the time which was shedding on the game right his negativity gets attention
[SPEAKER_02]: So I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you like movies?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not really.
[SPEAKER_02]: My brain is a little too fried to sit there and watch a movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did watch F-One recently, great movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to go to a theater to watch one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, like I'm thinking about, like, but you, like, the movie concept, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, you got a character who needs something, then they sort of spend the most of the movie seeking that thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like, in Formula One, it was, um, oh, you see.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it hasn't seen it yet.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we used a different example.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the movie you've seen that you really liked?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is too much.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't have a favorite movie?
[SPEAKER_04]: Favorite movie of the ocean's eleven.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great example.
[SPEAKER_04]: So great.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have, you have, um, fucking George Clooney, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And what does he need?
[SPEAKER_04]: What does he really need?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just girl.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what's the movie really about stealing money from a casino?
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So now I'm thinking Dalton, if the movie was about you, where are we at in the movie?
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you need?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, everything shifted recently, not to harp on the sober ship, but everything I thought that I wanted before was just wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now what I needed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now it's just like, now I just need more gratitude for what I have because things are, I have like a twentieth of what I used to have in terms of viewership and numbers and engagement on my Twitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just need more gratitude for what I get.
[SPEAKER_02]: because the peak of apex has come and gone and it's continuing to go down.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that pisses me off because it was awesome back when I was making way too much money and being a shithead and doing whatever I want and saying whatever I want and everyone loved it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone loved me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need that anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just need to just be okay with what I have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just keep my eyes and ears open for other opportunities that come about because I don't know how much longer I'm going to be doing the twitch stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just because it's been a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not believe it or not sitting in a chair for twelve hours playing a dopamine filled video game with a flying chat on your left side that you're like constantly like it's just bad for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm kind of fried from it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I'm pushing thirty and I think typically like you just kind of fall out of love with gaming in general, especially when it becomes your job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying that I want to quit but it's definitely been like a looming thought in my head is like I could be doing something else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I have no idea what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: No education to back it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of fell into this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Made a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm on your podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to fuck this is all happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what?
[SPEAKER_02]: You have really no idea what you wanted to know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know it's something to do, you know, with being on camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know my personality is good enough to carry in some podcast realm or something in entertainment, something online.
[SPEAKER_02]: So not entirely like I don't want to go to a nine to five.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I would operate in that because I've spent the last six years waking up whenever I wanted doing whatever I wanted, not having anyone above me telling me what to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So going from that to a very structured real job with a boss would be
[SPEAKER_02]: pretty jarring.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: When you're streaming and you're making all this money, where does the money come from?
[SPEAKER_02]: So Twitch pays it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to come from subscribers.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can subscribe to the channel and you bypass ads.
[SPEAKER_02]: You also get a cool little bag or an emblem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mine's a bag because my fans are called the Tush bags because my gamer tag is still Tush.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Came up with that when I had five viewers and now that's now I've tattooed my leg and we're here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the two spags will subscribe to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was five dollars a month for quite some time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's six.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get seventy percent of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once you reach a certain echelon of streamer, which is pretty big.
[SPEAKER_02]: So most people aren't getting that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So how many spaggers did you have?
[SPEAKER_02]: At my peak I had about eighteen thousand subscribers.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's monthly.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it also comes from ad revenue.
[SPEAKER_02]: So whoever's not subscribed, which is probably like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably, at that level, probably, sixty percent of the chat, seventy percent of the chat wasn't subscribed, so they're getting fed ads every hour about what you get a cut of as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Depending on how many viewers you have during the ads, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll, they'll, they'll like fifty, fifty, fifty probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I never really, I, I was to the point where I wasn't even looking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even care.
[SPEAKER_04]: It would just care to this money would just come from an account called Twitch, and it would wire itself into your personal bank account.
[SPEAKER_02]: You pay taxes almost?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry, or tinley.
[SPEAKER_02]: So many.
[SPEAKER_02]: So many, it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you have an agent or anything?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: They picked me up pretty early on into my streaming crew.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even sure how they found me.
[SPEAKER_02]: They reached out to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been with him ever since.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was like six years ago, a little over six years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: They found me really early.
[SPEAKER_02]: I asked them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, how did you even, did you like see the potential in me?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, we don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just kind of picked you.
[SPEAKER_04]: At what point?
[SPEAKER_04]: on in this process of sort of playing a video game and then it sounds like you're talking about making about a hundred grand a month at a point yeah yeah I mean that that's like it's at what point are you just like what the fuck I never really it was it's also blurry I never really stepped back and had like a proper
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, this is really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I would only feel that like I would get drunk on stream.
[SPEAKER_02]: We used to do that all the time, which was really fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like without even playing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I made a pretty big name for myself getting hammered and casting apex tournaments.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there'd be an apex tournament on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be playing any because I'm not allowed to play tournaments.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I used my personality to put on a suit and tie drink a twelve pack and make kind of commentary
[SPEAKER_04]: extravaganza situation go down so it was like four to five hours of drinking on stream commentating the apex tournament right and then we keep drinking afterwards naturally you know it's it was already interesting to me just the concept that you could play video game and people would pay to watch but it's even more than anything that people would pay to watch you watch a video game yeah like that's
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, that's like, that's a lot of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's real.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, um, it's real life.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when you put it like that, it is crazy, but it made sense in the moment for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what does the, what does the main extravagance, what, what did you do with all this sort of, because essentially, we're talking about, how would you describe this money?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you earn it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I definitely earned way more than I deserve, and I know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think like,
[SPEAKER_02]: anyone in my space deserves that amount of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you like work hard for it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I busted my ass to get to where, I mean, I stream on average probably twelve hours a day for three years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and so what was, did you ever go on vacation?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, so, I mean, people would say it's vacation, but it would always be work related, and then when the golf channel came up,
[SPEAKER_02]: I was tossing money at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just torching money left and right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was traveling twice a month to go film in different places.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was flying people out, didn't care, booking hotels, my camera man, paying my camera man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just dump things just so much money and did not care at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pro shops, drinks, drugs, every didn't care, right, didn't care, didn't care, just torching at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a fear to stop streaming when you're at that peak?
[SPEAKER_01]: For us, like if we don't release videos, we just momentum.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, certainly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I was, it becomes addictive for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you, yeah, it's the internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you could fall off pretty quick if you don't stay on top of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, yeah, I was kind of, I had like golden handcuffs on for a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just early as the way I felt in my head for years.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like if I don't, if I'm not streaming twelve hours a day,
[SPEAKER_02]: and everything's gonna go wrong if I don't do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for the last two days, you didn't stream, what did you do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yesterday I did nothing, it was kind of in a melancholic mood, it was kind of confused on what I want to do and what I want to play and like what I'm doing with my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: So literally, just walking through the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I woke up, late in bed on TikTok for about an hour and a half and I ran three miles and then I went to the range for about two hours, beats and balls because I'd range.
[SPEAKER_02]: My willy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: My willy.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a homeless lady, yapping behind me.
[SPEAKER_02]: for a good thirty minutes, I had to ask the attendance inside to kick her out twice, finally got her out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was really pissed off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I need to join a country club, fired off some texts about that, then I went home, cooked, fired off some texts about that meeting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, is there any places to join around here that's like decent proximity, not a million dollars like Barton?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: So then it's like, oh, I'm moving.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are some thoughts yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I should move to find a better range.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where I went.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how pissed I was.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so pissed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a homeless lady at the driving range.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was just like, she commented on your swing.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was commenting on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: She didn't stop yapping for a thirty-minute straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of like in real life's treatment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was tweaky.
[SPEAKER_02]: But nothing was wrong here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing was coherent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing was coherent at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was all just blabbles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then I did nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I cooked.
[SPEAKER_02]: did nothing for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Went to dance hamburgers by myself, had never been wanted to go get a burger, got two burgers, which won't take the one like really close right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, on MLK.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a guy on shady, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure, we're actually right here right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I drove to the parking lot to get here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You will in the inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: I live near Mueller.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I laid in bed from like eight to ten, popped a melatonin out at like ten, thirty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's focused on fit.
[SPEAKER_04]: It feels so comfortable Honestly twenty percent off obviously feels unfair because it's such a good deal anyway Abercrime has been good to us.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're good to you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, so for those listening, Dalton and I met at our meet-up in a crystal false.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, we did.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember on the, was it the second hole?
[SPEAKER_04]: Was the par three?
[SPEAKER_04]: Was that right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think it was later on.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, well, we didn't meet at the second hole, but I remember, I was on the second hole and you're lefty, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I always notice lefties.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just because better fair there's few and I and I I'm not a lefty, but I kind of feel bad because I know that it's harder for lefty to like get equipment rental clubs all the shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let me have my life is so hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's so hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah anyways anyway you hit the shot and and someone come up to you and they're like you're dull too.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I kind of like heard what was going on and I was like what's
[SPEAKER_04]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know what that was or if that was a person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I assume he was like about you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, we went later.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what was cool is, you know, towards the end of these, these mad scramble's, it's like everything kind of like slows down.
[SPEAKER_04]: It gets kind of dark.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so we spent the last couple of holes walking in together and you talked about, you know, like your new journey in sobriety.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that was super cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because obviously I've been sober too.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what, like how did that come about?
[SPEAKER_02]: The initial event was me fucking up a relationship that I was in, so that was just like a, it's about that time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it took that happening and me.
[SPEAKER_02]: getting to that low point and being like a total piece of shit and fucking that up to realize how many other things were wrong with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't really know it when you're in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I totally got this under control.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like it all happened in pretty quick succession.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was going to take a break from drinking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went to pebble and that was like it was getting to the point where I was blacking out nearly every time I golfed just to get to the point in my brain where I was like, okay, I'm happy now, right, which is like just
[SPEAKER_02]: sad I couldn't operate unless I was just completely hammered or else it was just too spooky in my head to enjoy being in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually like I was at Pebble for a buddy's bachelor party one morning I woke up with just puke all over myself and all over my bed and I was like oh my god I could have died that's like the first time that's ever happened so that was scary
[SPEAKER_02]: Then a week later, I got broken up with and then probably twelve days later, I was in a rehab.
[SPEAKER_02]: My family helped me out pretty quickly with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so what was that phone call like?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all kind of happened fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember like, I mean, they were obviously very supportive.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not obvious.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a very supportive family.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they were very supportive.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was all confusing and scary and weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really remember exactly how it went down.
[SPEAKER_02]: but they were very supportive, I recall that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was very confused and lost in afraid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could definitely recall feeling that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I mean, when is this long ago?
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably ten months, ten eleven.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ten eleven, so it's all new.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so you're like,
[SPEAKER_04]: Life is this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then less than a month later, life is the opposite of us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it was always going to get to that point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I knew it was going to get caught and like deep down inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like, yeah, I needed to happen the way that it did because I was never going to fucking ask for help.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know how.
[SPEAKER_04]: When was like the first moment that you were like, I don't know, because it's like for me, I remember like when I first got sober, I was like,
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's like, not gonna work.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I get that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't like, not ever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I totally guess that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're just like, you're just like, this is not a forever thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, it's fine for you, but I'm gonna go back.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm gonna go back and have one or two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is not like, um, yeah, I think that moment kind of hit me recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a couple of two relapses like five months in, so I got about five months right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, having drank in ten months, but I did do some drugs.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that kind of helped me, I did like go back in, because I was like, yeah, I got that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: How was that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not worth it, obviously.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it like, was it mellow, not worth it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or was it like sharp?
[SPEAKER_04]: Not worth it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, mella.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, mella.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what happens?
[SPEAKER_04]: So you went, you were sober for a couple of months, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you, then you go out and you're all that nuts over and what's the, why did you come back?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think I just missed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really, I just missed the drug.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just not worth it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's clear cut.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, like my brain works.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, that was fucking stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you thinking?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you thought that was going to be it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly not.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, like, once you are in the calm down and you know what you did, you realize pretty quickly, like all of the things sobriety can give you and what you had, what you were taking for granted, like waking up feeling happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: not being made to yourself, being kind of others, all of your relationships strengthening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Physical fitness being better, mental health being better.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of these things that you could stack up, but then when you stack them up for so long, you get used to them and you think it's normal, which is what I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of these improvements became the norm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm good.
[SPEAKER_02]: When did it?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, fuck, now I remember why I do all this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in terms of,
[SPEAKER_02]: your point of like, yeah, I'm going to go back out and do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That kind of like, I was always, it was always in the back of my mind, but like I know in order for me to be healthy and be who I want to be, it has to be forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: At least you can't think about it like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm kind of at the point where I'm okay with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was not the case for like a very long time up until like one or two months ago where I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of pretty okay with sobriety.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is good.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I did hate it before and thought it was boring and shitty and annoying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all the things.
[SPEAKER_04]: I lived in New York for a while, and I remember as a New Yorker, if someone in your circle moved out of New York,
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like the silver circle or yours?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, just anybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just a human in New York, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: If someone was like left or if I met someone who was like, I used to live here, but now I live in X, doesn't matter anywhere, but in New York City.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would immediately judge them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'd be like, oh, they couldn't hack it, you know, and for it, not cut for it, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not strong.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're weak, you know, and actually, so I haven't lived in New York in a long time.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're way of teen years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, but what's funny is, so now when I go back to New York, I'm like,
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys are crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like there's sirens everywhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's crazy calves.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're getting run over.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to get a table like the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything's really expensive.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's loud.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's cold.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's hot.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It smells bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: And with so funny, so I was there recently, I was talking to a guy and I was like, hey, let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've lived here for a long time.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's your opinion on people who don't live in New York or have lived in New York and move?
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like a week.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was just like, you know that that's just a story you're telling yourself, because life in Austin, it's pretty fucking good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's chill.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, life in Monterey, California, it's pretty fucking good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And New York isn't, and New York almost seems like a physical example of this idea of the drinking alcoholic, which is like, I gotta go on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like the lights are on, the parties here, everyone's saying out with me.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, and then meanwhile, you know, the next day, you're like, that place, that guy's crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, so, um, so, so like, yeah, I relapsed a bunch too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, in the beginning, I remember actually, I relapsed after getting a year sober and then, uh, later on when I like this time came back and I had a year sober.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't even then believe that I would stay sober.
[SPEAKER_04]: So a year after the year after relapsed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I got my point and I was like, thanks.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't mean shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's got to be a tough spot to be in.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's weird.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then even for so many years, I was just kind of like, well, the tough thing is like, I know that I'm not cut out to drink.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't control it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I also don't really believe that I'm gonna stay sober, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: So it was just a weird place to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: What helped you kind of level that out in the positive direction?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it was just a day after day.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I think that's like I'm still pretty early on, but like yeah, I think that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just kind of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: My buddy was telling me like.
[SPEAKER_02]: with the breakup thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I thought about my accent,cessantly, for six months and it was eating me alive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Six months is a long fucking time to have something eating you from the inside.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he's like, well, you're going to wake up one day.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to think about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, that's the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he said the same thing about like drinking and sobriety and it's sucking.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you're thinking about it all the time, but you're going to wake up one day and it's just, it's not going to be eating at your brain lifted.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I had that kind of recently.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's crazy thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we talked about this journey.
[SPEAKER_04]: The only way we have that this thing that I've been asking everybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Recently?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it started last week.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, wait.
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw this crazy Instagram post about, you know, Jeremy Renner and how we had the, like, near-death experience.
[SPEAKER_01]: The snow cloud?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you hear about the story like about how he was like, I was in the other world.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was beautiful.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't hear about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: All my friends were there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it was, it was the most beautiful existence of consciousness that I'd ever seen.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was disappointed.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jeremy Rener said I was disappointed when that brought me back to life.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so there was this, like, basically it was a podcast that was talking about how science and medicine and spirituality and religion have kind of all centered around this agreement that based on data from hospice care.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's eighty percent of people who are in hospice care, experience something similar to what Jeremy Renner experienced, which is that around a couple weeks before the patient dies, they will see people that are already dead in the room.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they'll start talking to them as though they are completely real.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this is eight out of ten people.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll have the same experiences where they're uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're conscious.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're saying, I feel weird, Doctor, but I just saw my dead husband.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we had a conversation, and he said to me, and these are the things that they always hear, which are, we're gonna come get you.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna be okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: And these hospice nurses have been witnessing this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then as well, science has been kind of back in this up.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what I'm kind of getting at is that once I saw this Instagram post marketing a podcast, which I then listened to, which is like totally out of the normal thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a youth thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't listen to podcasts.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just now kind of believing like, maybe there isn't happening.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're in on the afterlife.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, which I'd never been.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a good ad.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a really good ad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish I had a CTA.
[SPEAKER_02]: CTA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Join join join the church.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like, do you have a thought on that?
[SPEAKER_02]: The afterlife, I mean, I think I know I'm too small to comprehend it or, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: be certain if it's real or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't religious for a very long time, but obviously with sobriety, you have to get spiritual.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the only thing I know for sure is that I'm really fucking small, and this everything is really fucking big, and I don't know shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing I know is that I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel the same way.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know about anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think for a long time, I just felt like there's nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a simulation.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an accident.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fish walked all of a sudden, you know, there's a Navy ship, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like crazy shit, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: All of a sudden, Amazon is sending me shirts that I forgot I ordered.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, like, yeah, evolution in a nutshell.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's an accident.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're a rock in space.
[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of a wonderful, happy little accident.
[SPEAKER_04]: But now I'm kind of like,
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe it is all designed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not, it's not a religious thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we don't talk about this, Jota.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not in the last week.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all it's been.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me put the squeakyist chair in a man back real quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are two positions it can be in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We put the squeakyist chair in the podcast room.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I put it in position and we'll not speak a podcast logo.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just like with the squeaky chance coming out of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we didn't talk about this in the last week, which is surprising to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It must mean we haven't seen each other in a week.
[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't been seen much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, we've been busy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, so I'm now I'm now basically like
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I had this thought the other day, like I was kind of stressed.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, not gonna care when I get there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm just gonna see all the homies.
[SPEAKER_02]: That altered the way you've been going day to day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's a pretty big discovery.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of the put into your personal life is that you believe in the afterlife heavily now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And everyone I've been talking to, I asked them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And everyone more or less is like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most people say, yes, I believe in the afterlife.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not, I've never asked it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a fun thing to believe in.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you kind of got the odd stacked against you if you're going hard now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there is some sort of entry, like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if, I mean, I'm early, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still only seven days in, but like, I don't think that there's like a reckoning.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not, I'm thinking, what I'm imagining is that
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just kind of like a, like a, like a hang that has no furniture.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like it's just like, it's almost like, it's like, if you were at like burning man, everyone's kind of around.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the landscape is just endless.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you're referring to like a heaven situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're kind of talking as far as all fields.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know what that is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the creek after life where everybody wanders around in this giant field.
[SPEAKER_02]: They knew it about then.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was even then.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been talking about it for a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice field.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do in this field?
[SPEAKER_02]: Other snacks?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you just fucking exist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds kind of hellish.
[SPEAKER_02]: You exist forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: You exist forever and do what?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's terrifying.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you're just kind of in a waiting room.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's no time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think what they're basically saying is that consciousness isn't because we know consciousness, they can't really define it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we know that you are separate from your consciousness, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because you have thoughts that you can't control.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So which one is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: When you're in bed and you hear something that you didn't say, what is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a dick.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's consciousness.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's fucked up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so we're on earth.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that there's a parallel hill, which is essentially, it's going to sound really terrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Earth is hell.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the afterlife, and I believe this probably equates to the religious experience, which is that I think in the afterlife, that's the opposite of hell.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a bad hell then.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had this conversation strange.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is very strange.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had this conversation in a hike in Bryson and Utah five days ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to my friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were like miles six or seven into this hike.
[SPEAKER_01]: I asked, I was like, have you ever thought about it?
[SPEAKER_01]: What if we were living in a punishment simulation right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like right now we're in one of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did something really bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the government or the whoever put us in like a punishment simulation to punish us.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we didn't even realize we were in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like would you even try to break out?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it doesn't seem so bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, break out.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, you would break out.
[SPEAKER_01]: If when you got out, it was so much better than this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not to be a ball-up, do we?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, maybe you have to come to terms with that, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: But because two dollars point, like, wow, this isn't such a bad hell, but that's relative, because we have no idea how good it could be.
[SPEAKER_01]: What if you took everything all the bad away?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm thinking it's so good after all this.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the irony is that we almost have stocks on syndrome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the point I was trying to make them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, we might be
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't agree to be a real, you don't agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm more in the reincarnal kind of guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that vibe.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, see.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a fun vibe.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I believe that there is both.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's the other thing you go to this other thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You hang out with all your homies.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got the choice.
[SPEAKER_04]: No wall be there.
[SPEAKER_04]: My uncle, my grandfather who didn't know I was because he's out of Alzheimer's.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we'll all be there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it's kind of like, guys, we're going to do another show.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think everybody goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a lot of people just don't sound.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then, you know, what is my logic have to do with anything in the universe?
[SPEAKER_02]: You think you think you get up there?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then not what would be the criteria to go back down?
[SPEAKER_01]: You decide.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're like volunteering.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's just like you take as long as you want up there.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, like, so then like, draw me, let's go deeper with this.
[SPEAKER_04]: So like, you've got obviously, you become famous because you've done good for the community.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you become famous up there, are you, man?
[SPEAKER_04]: Down here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Done for good for what's community.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fame is usually a result of you have served the community well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying famous people are like good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying what they have done people want.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Unfortunately, it's not Gandhi.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It should have been.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you're saying like people become famous because they did good things.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're really good people.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the better people they are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and unfortunately, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like we want is the wrong thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, how are you with you?
[SPEAKER_04]: And so like, but then, but you could become well known for actually doing good like Gandhi.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm thinking of Gandhi in Elon Musk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's their trajectory?
[SPEAKER_04]: Once the door opens.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they get up there and it's really hard for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't lie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they get up there and I think they're hanging out for way longer than they should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're hanging out at their high school reunion for way longer than they should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because everybody wants to take us out with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's up, they've been up there?
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not everybody, but like everyone's.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they're sons.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're sons.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think we need it, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, dude, there's the ability right now for people to communicate across the planet telepathically.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, that shit's real.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you referring to?
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever heard about something and then someone else happened to think about the same thing at the same time and then you somehow can actually like, I was just thinking about you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there is little weird, weird little moments like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we chalk it down because we don't understand it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know it's not like Jim Carrey, like, thirty years after the mask, but like, I just, I just, what I'm trying to say is like, to your point, Dalton, I feel like I don't know shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all of a sudden, it's just really unfolded on itself.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now I'm here as a person who just always thought the afterlife was just some Christian story that I wasn't into.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now I'm kind of like, wait, I'm a big fan of science.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe there's some science here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like science is real.
[SPEAKER_04]: For some reason, Dalton, what you've been kind of sharing with me, seems like both the biggest deal in the world and also, like it just doesn't even fucking matter.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the debate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I think about like, I just feel like you are like at this really interesting time where you have like a tremendous amount of option around what the next chapter holds.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just think that's really exciting.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think most people, I don't even know the number.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would love the number.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I will bet most people are on a train.
[SPEAKER_04]: and they're not getting off because starting over is so hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you're basically saying, I can start over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the next stop is starting over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're in the start over right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just want to say, like, for the record, like, I guarantee you will look back on this and be like, those are the best days of my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really grateful for the low points, like already.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have enough
[SPEAKER_02]: gratitude to be like, yeah, that's going to be one thing I look back on and be like, I needed that so bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: And without that horrible spooky low point in my life and all the things leading up to it, like I wouldn't be where I'm at now, which is significantly happier and healthier and all those good things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then
[SPEAKER_02]: If I just keep building on this down the road, I'll be able to look back on this and be like, wow, this is all good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm fired up on it on paper.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could say it sucked a lot of ass and it was really scary a long time there, but we're on the other side of it for the most part.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was very close to Groves Zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we're still in our first year.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're still in our first year, five months out, but
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, also like where at a time when not drinking is way more normal.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's trendy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rick Shields?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you see Rick Shields out of here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he spoke like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He hit it for a whole year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean fair enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You wanted to make a video first.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about the video he did with Bob and then Slam and Guinness at a Crale.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, was that over a year ago?
[SPEAKER_01]: At least calendars, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's two timelines.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Power to them, that's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you also have people like me who, like, all the time, I'm like, I think I kind of want to stop drinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I sometimes, I feel like it's, if I'm being totally honest with the two of you, Randy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it's stolen valor sometimes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm pissed about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If people are just not drinking, it's just like fucking, you're not an alcoholic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get fucking hammered.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is so fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go get hammered, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's our clip.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually completely disagree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's sick.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's poison.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is bad for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's poison.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they do it in moderation, not like we were doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a cocktail after a long week, like a margarita with fucking chips and salsa, a goddamn glass of wine with a steak.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, but the problem is, is that why would you ever want to do something that takes away your ability to be in control of what you're doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because people, I've heard this, apparently people are happy, and they don't need alcohol to make them happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're just happy as it is, and they can have a drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard that's apparently true for some people, and that's fucking crazy to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was never at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: The alcohol just boosts the current setting that they're in.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the first time you ever got fucked up?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember this crystal clear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I remember it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was in my house.
[SPEAKER_04]: People like Dalton and I remember this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was in my house.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what liquor was and I took probably like twelve shots and like twenty minutes because we didn't know what liquor was.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fucking yaked my ass off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I sharded like, yeah, as you said, my mom's house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Full circle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_04]: You started on your first make and you threw up a new embed in your last drink.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember I one day I had like a bad day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like some shit happened.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not even really relevant.
[SPEAKER_04]: But like at home, you know, and I went to the locker of the one kid that smoked weed in junior high.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was a thirteen or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, hey,
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you, are you going to smoke weed this afternoon after school?
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was like, you know it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I join you?
[SPEAKER_04]: And he was like, sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I like, I like a range.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I knew him, but like, we weren't friends.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was almost like I set like a Google meet, you know, with like my friend to like, and then we just smoke weed.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I remember like as soon as I, as soon as I sort of feel it, I was like, yeah, this is what I need.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just need this and my pocket all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're good.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is this is the key.
[SPEAKER_02]: Smoking weed the first few times was
[SPEAKER_02]: and unbelievable experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: But see now if you did it, all you would be is his paranoid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just get scared.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, afraid.
[SPEAKER_04]: I get scared.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, just the way you giggled so hard after the first couple of times smoking weed and a food.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like really though, it's all downhill after the first like five.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mine like, because I've been sober twenty four years long time.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just keep coming back to the same words like I'm at a party and I'm like, well,
[SPEAKER_04]: It would be nice to drink.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then I'm like, actually, no, I kind of like that I'm that I'm just not drinking and that I'm just extraordinarily clear about like what's happening here.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, it's it's almost like, it's almost like playing the tips.
[SPEAKER_04]: Go on.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like, I'm into the challenge.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's almost like when you miss a grain and you walk with a ball and you're like, watch this.
[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta get it up and down.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna be in like, I'm just gonna give it my best shot.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, you know, I'm not probably a fifty percent of the time gonna make it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what I'm trying to say is like, I can't find a real reason why drinking would actually make
[SPEAKER_04]: Any of my life any better.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I totally agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think the only thing I genuinely miss about drinking is like the camaraderie of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like the excitement of like no one you're gonna hang out with the fellas are like before a big game and just kind of getting like getting rowdy with your boys.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing I missed the most about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's about.
[SPEAKER_02]: But is that even real?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The fellas getting fired up with some goddamn beers, of course, it's real.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't take that away from them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't take that image away from me either.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the most beautiful things in the world is having some cold ones with your boys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll fucking die on that hill.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't drink, but I will die on that hill.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you could do that sober.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's certainly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a little bit left out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: As a matter of your drinking anase or not, you're a bit, you're the one you're the man out that's not actually drinking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying like it's the worst thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's totally okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's a little, there's always that little inkling that's like being kind of missed this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: See.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've started going out and not drinking with my friends.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they're drinking in your drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're drinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do kind of love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like being around.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to be sober around drunk people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, certainly.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to get out early.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it reaches a point for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Agreed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, and I love going to a party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, party guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I feel like when you, when you're sober and you go to a party, it's even more special.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could scan it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You could really look around and yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're basically like there in the game.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm, I'm the player.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like not like sexual sense, but like in like I have, you know, I'm like under invisibility cloak.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: I get what you say.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like everyone just thinks I'm drunk.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I want you to smile at least over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, you're dialed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably caffeine depth, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: If this plane's going down, you're ready to take the wheel over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, once the script flips, like we got this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's hundreds of benefits to being sober and three little, like, powdery face negatives that you can easily just get over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: with all that being said with my speech about why drinking is tight, being sober is even cooler.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are we going to make it all?
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you don't have problems, definitely keep drinking, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the only caveat was saying that, though, is that you didn't think you had a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was always, I didn't know I had a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but I knew something was kind of wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Certainly.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the, the boys that you had crack open a cold on with.
[SPEAKER_04]: Were you different from that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, apparently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Were they like, do they all know?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was just like, it was just an internal war in my head at all times, which I would never ever tell anyone about, because that's weak.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talking about that is weak.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would never tell anyone.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I think most people I was drinking with were normal and they couldn't tell because when I was drinking, I was happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, quote unquote.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so yeah, it didn't look too far off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like on the outside looking in, I was a bit fatter, I would say, but other than that, you couldn't really tell what was really going on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What's the most interesting part of golf to you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, the most interesting part of golf to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can cross out getting blacked out drunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, he word interesting, I would say, just the complexity versus the simplicity of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like the deeper you dive into your golf swing, the more insane the game becomes, but also the more you simplify your swing in a sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're having a good round and you're swinging simple, it all seems so simple.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you go out the next day.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like you've never fucking played this game before in your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's wildly impossible, but also just so simple and getable at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like the game, like it starts off one color.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then as you push through, it becomes like the opposite color.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like this kind of like,
[SPEAKER_04]: You're right, this simplicity and the complexity, like, really work together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or against.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or against.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is, if you want to improve, like, you have to dip into the complexities of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which then make it significantly harder to play, because typically swing changes just to a hellish place to be, yeah, mentally for quite some time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have a golf rips.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I can love this game, it's the best in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm obsessed with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, um, what, what did you start playing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Grandpa taught me when I was a young lad.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a member of a country club, so I got the ins and outs of the game pretty early on, developed a swing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of took like ten years off during high school college, because it wasn't cool to golf then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of had happened, moved here, just started picking it back up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then the golf content wave was kind of blowing up, and I was pretty big at the time as well, and people knew I golf, so I kind of got poked into kind of making some golf content.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was that fun?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It started off fun and kind of pure, whatever, then it became a good reason to torch money, blackout, do drugs, travel the country, make my life as fast as possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I never had to sit still and think, so that's over two and a half years.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it became towards the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: But on paper, fuck yeah, it was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I lived a lot of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really grateful for all the courses and all the memories that I've made, a lot that I've forgotten, but it was sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're, so you're, where, where, where did you go?
[SPEAKER_04]: Where's your grandfather's course?
[SPEAKER_02]: Tallahassee, Florida.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's called Golden Eagle.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good spot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know this driving range in Tallahassee that's, uh, it's got like a couple holes around it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, there's a double decker range.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it, is it poopy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I know it's talking raw-screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, raw-screen?
[SPEAKER_02]: I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where everybody got robbed there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you, do you remember the video I made there?
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a guy working on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was a guy where I showed up there one day and there was guy was there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why were you until last?
[SPEAKER_04]: I was meeting a judge there named Sid Matthews.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a golf historian and he was the person, the individual who supplied the entire cast and crew of
[SPEAKER_04]: The greatest game I've played with all of the props.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he had all the vintage clubs.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's sick.
[SPEAKER_04]: He supplied the movie with it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I was there doing an interview with him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, I went to Cross Creek and he's been there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I have to show you this video.
[SPEAKER_04]: I show up there one morning because I was like, I just want to go to the driving range and the guy gets, there's a guy there and he's like, close.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I was like, this guy, we talked for like two minutes and I was like, I'll be right back.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I go to my car and get my camera.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like filming him.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, do you play golf?
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, I'm gonna pay to golf.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I play.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, I like Tiger Woods.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, and I was like, is it okay if I film him?
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's like, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we just kept hanging out with the camera over my shoulder.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll show you the video.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like, it was just,
[SPEAKER_04]: He just was very going back to your statement about simple and complex.
[SPEAKER_04]: He did a great job of explaining it only the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he actually just got it sober too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got to show you this video.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You never saw this?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've seen this video.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a YouTube video.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a one with the song that's Big Boss Man.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a YouTube video on the channel.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a video I made.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's definitely on Vimeo.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was better saying it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on Vimeo.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's hot, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Shout out to Jimmy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm in back.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that was way back.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, so I'm getting that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, what was the name of the club again?
[SPEAKER_04]: Grandpa's club?
[SPEAKER_04]: Golden Eagle.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why don't you just go back there?
[SPEAKER_04]: For what?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you want the robin range.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell us he's a college town.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't be back there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tell us he's kind of tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was fun to be a kid there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you go to Destin?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Destin's a vibe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, reps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, love Destin.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love Florida.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably be back in Florida at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what school was like?
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, like, love Orlando.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, a lot of people, like, you need to go to the right area.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think there's a lot of cool shit happening in Orlando.
[SPEAKER_04]: Plenty of cool shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a little too rusty.
[SPEAKER_04]: A little too rusty.
[SPEAKER_04]: A little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's an argument there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Stream song.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good spot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't you go Orlando Country Club or whatever, don't rush.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't really see you don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really see you as a Florida guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think that I'm a Florida guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see you moving to Florida.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where do you got for me?
[SPEAKER_01]: Colorado.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was on the table too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're like, I'll take that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's a compliment in a sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pittsburgh and he I'm a pretty anti-cold right okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, well, I think like I feel like cold in Colorado seems more fun Yeah, then cold up in the Northeast I'm surprised you don't you're not into like skiing or snowboarding I would be but I'm just I live in Austin right if there was a mountain nearby I could probably assure you that I'd be interested you'd be good at it
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been once.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, once fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Snowboarded.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So do you feel like you missed out on a lot of things because you spent a lot of your twenties, twelve hours a day working?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was entirely necessary for me to do that and make the money and have that kind of nest egg.
[SPEAKER_02]: for me to be able to do all this cool shit that I have done in the past and kind of will be able to continue to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now, yeah, I mean, if you want to do anything, you have to make the money at a certain point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, most people aren't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like my job is sick.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was doing a lot of cool shit while I was working like two sheets off and streaming was just cross-roaded like it's not like I had to take off streaming.
[SPEAKER_02]: For a month to do a two-stees off video, I would just go out of town for three days and then come back and stream.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't, no, I don't think I missed out on anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm super happy that I did put all that time in to make the money that I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I can continue to travel and play golf kind of wherever I want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: For the time being until like, I get married and like have a kid or whatever, however that works.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then it all goes away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, well now I had a sick I had a sick twenties besides like the rehab and like the addiction part if you take that away I had a killer Yeah past like right right yeah, yeah someone had to yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, played a lot of sick horses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, being drunk on the golf course is my favorite thing in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: It got a little dark towards the end, but it was still the second thing ever to me at all times.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just loved it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Music, fellas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Plant thirty six.
[SPEAKER_02]: I fucking love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of music do you like?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I play a lot of eighties pop playlists.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a playlist called Frampton vibes that my buddy put me on.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an absolute just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: envelope of a thousand songs of just like good listenable music I don't really know what you would call it Frampton vibes on the front and vibes yeah I get a rampant yes yeah it's fantastic I'm gonna check that out he put me on to it seven months ago and I play it every time in the car I'm gonna let's do it moving home it's fucking great I'm looking up right now yeah there's some country in there that I typically skip on pretty anti country with two hundred and fifty saves
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there are these kind of love this too, because he thinks he's an influencer behind that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this his post?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's him.
[SPEAKER_02]: What he's told me is that it's him and his buddies who built it over about four years in high school or college.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's pretty much what I can describe it as music to like sit on a dock too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm looking.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I skip the country shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is country, but people like country, I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I, again, framped in vibes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna love this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, honestly, there is some really fucking good playlist.
[SPEAKER_02]: I put it on every time I golf now.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's solid.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like sleeper metrics.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like obviously people care about followers and subscribers, but you know, the number of people are following your Spotify playlist.
[SPEAKER_02]: The number of fans that friends you have to go to as head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll put the link in the description.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's good guy, so I give it to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm adding it to my library.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's next for you on the golf?
[SPEAKER_02]: Docket.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to just go to cancel one thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cancel it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like right now?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in thirteen minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could make that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't do it with our constructs.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just took it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, what's the question sir?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's next for you on the golf docket?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, if you can say, I know you do you do a lot of crazy shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we got some crazy shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I guess next is, uh, well in Friday, I'm flying to Ireland.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good spot.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've heard there's some good golf there.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's some good golf.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Especially next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the open.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll be there for the open, which I'm really excited about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like I don't really go to a lot of tournaments while it's going on if we're not filming and we usually can't do a lot of filming while it's going on.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think the open is like one of the best kind of
[SPEAKER_04]: Like sporting events that you can see and the course is great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just back tating and playing a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll play a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll play Saturday.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to play, uh, crew it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which is like, uh, it's like an executive course that looks like a video game.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to land in Dublin on Friday?
[SPEAKER_04]: Saturday.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to drive to Cricut?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll land at seven a.m.
[SPEAKER_04]: for our drive.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we're staying at Rosapeno, which is an hour past that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll just play like a little bit afternoon round.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rosapeno play golf Sunday and then drive to the course Monday and hang out.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't want to tell me that next year is going to Ireland.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are you going?
[SPEAKER_02]: You tell me I told you the course is on another actual place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you're starting in Dublin going up to Northern Ireland.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, kind of like our trip we just did.
[SPEAKER_01]: So our CD port rush ports to our we going with the big boys, GGC.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, that's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: So who's how many people are going?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was about forty of us this trip to Scotland a couple months ago, so I think it probably you go around that same number I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's literally actually a club.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys actually get together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we do.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a monthly tournament.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a thing for three years.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a monthly thing in LA.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only gamers I know are like Margo and Jordan.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not all gamers.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gaming adjacent.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're an agent, if you work for EA, anything kind of roughly adjacent or if you have enough followers like Taylor Fritz is in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's tight.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the gamer in the sense that he plays tennis.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really good at tennis.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's still at Wimbledon.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's sick.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Handsome too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Antal and nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not in the internet invitation and I'm curious about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just noticed that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just saw that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not really in the hundred people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The internet invitation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have opposed to golf content in seven months.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not really in that lane.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't guys do kind of, yeah, you do kind of carve your own lane, but I feel like, I don't know, you're a big name, obviously.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you know, I didn't get invited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and how do you feel?
[SPEAKER_04]: Was that good?
[SPEAKER_04]: When is the event?
[SPEAKER_04]: August to eleven, twelve, couldn't have done it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're busy guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have an event on August eleven at Positampo.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you want to hear something sad, but I guess not why it wasn't invited.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wasn't invited because nobody invited me.
[SPEAKER_04]: As a side, I couldn't have gone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I still like you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would have liked to be invited to candidly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm not the biggest, am I, would I be a stewardly at that point?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I'm not like it's Bob and Laura.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, it's going to be, it's just going to be, it's like going to be competitive golf.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's not going to be teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be announced.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like Wesley Bryant's playing in it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I noticed he's in the upper left corner of the grid, which sort of led me to believe that everyone, you know, he might be winning.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's certainly some favourites I'd say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would give and tell on maybe the formatting of the tournament or what I've heard when I'm in Dade.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I really can't do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I won't be the one breaking it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd love to be back next year if there's another one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I would love to be invited next year.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get you in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would honestly take my spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to melt.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to melt out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's things like I, you know, they have these kind of like creator days, both at the US Open and at the Philly Creek Club.
[SPEAKER_04]: There was like the creator classic, you know, and like at sawgrass, they have it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I like think it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, I think, I don't know what that's like in the gaming community if they have these kind of like,
[SPEAKER_04]: get together, but it sounds like this trip, this golf trip, it's sort of that that you're going to in Ireland.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I would say so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got a question for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the last time you played a video game and didn't stream it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very rare.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've probably done it ten times in six years and it's typically like playing PGA with the boys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just like if I don't want this to stream that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, people did back in the day, like it all, it all comes down to percentages.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if I have fifteen thousand viewers for a watch party, and if I get on PGA after that, it'll trickle down, but it'll cap out at like four K. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I only have like, if I play Apex, I'll get like thirteen hundred viewers, and if I play PGA, it'll be like five hundred viewers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But typically, if I want to play PGA, it's for me to just relax and talk to my voice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of off stream if we need to talk about some shit, which I've had to in the past seven months, I've needed to just vent a little bit.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you're playing the game while talking.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I guess PGA isn't that intense.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not like it's very chill.
[SPEAKER_04]: Apex.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very chill.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're also talking the whole time in Apex, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to communicate with your teammates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Should we circle back to the video game shit?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love... I kind of like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love... Well, I think some version of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, Jordan Gilbert?
[SPEAKER_04]: Then name sounds familiar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: We did a video with him.
[SPEAKER_04]: Really?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I played a video game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what game you played.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a shoot-up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a shooter.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the first person shoot-up.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a shoot-up.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was the shoot-up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the shoot-up.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was the shoot-up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the shoot-up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the shoot
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a thing in five years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, five years.
[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, the R like set ups at home.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be fall for me the one.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, not anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did for a bit though.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's news ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Christian Horner got fired today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Saw that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I've been getting it fed into my phone quite a bit because I watched the beginning of Silverstone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I went and watched F-One.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I posted about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So naturally, I was saying F-One.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm getting fucking pumped F-One content right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just delivering it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll be gone in two days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It goes that quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you say some keywords, it'll be on your TikTok or your Insta in forty minutes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a give or want to watch a video and then swipe through it because you just don't want it to get out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it pisses me off.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's when I accidentally click an ad on TikTok.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I fat finger it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pull up the ad screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then that gets thrown into the algorithm that I liked that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it should be allowed to pay for for new algorithms and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they should, I would pay money just to just reset me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me, take me back to your house.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should propose that.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're about Jack Dorsey's new chat app.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Bluetooth one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which looks like it says bitch app.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like no internet.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's all Bluetooth.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you could go like, air gap, dark mode on your phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: You go rogue.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you could still text each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's like a mash Bluetooth network.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it would only work at the like, three hundred meters max.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that sounds like a dead end.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if it depends like where you are, what you're doing, if your oceans are leviting, that could come in real handy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I do have plans to do that soon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do the ocean's lemon thing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just watched ocean's lemon.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's such a great movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like two weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So hard not to watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the best guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's your guy and I'm maybe?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's such a question?
[SPEAKER_01]: Of the crew and you, you can choose the name.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a favorite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is a tough question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you, your favorite?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope we all have a different guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know his name actually in the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the bomb guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don, Cheeto.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Cheeto is definitely in it for me, but he's not the one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with the worst acts and ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's so good when he's got the EMP, you know?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's your favorite?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's just very confident.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you go for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rusty.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rusty is a bright pit, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean he's very good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just love every decision once he's everything he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna do it in the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not normally my favorite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hot good actor that man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: We all do for once.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mine's uh, damn it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was, that's my second.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I just think he's like, he's like, unconfident, but he's got skill.
[SPEAKER_04]: He has no community, you know, finds his people and all of a sudden like really show any, any's about to get the one piece of advice from Brad Pitt and then Brad Pitt walks away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you do.
[SPEAKER_04]: don't, and then he walks away, and then it's like, but then he crushes it with being on the gaming commission.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, and the guys like, the guys like, how's someone so he's like, I haven't talked to him since he died or whatever, and it's just like, oh, that was such a win, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: God, that was a good poll earlier by me, I panicked.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not, I'm not a movie buff in any sense that was gonna test me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, throughout a bad favorite movie, that was, I wasn't gonna be a bad one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Throughout there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like like infinity war never heard of a Marvel infinity war.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really watch Marvel.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would've just been a bad favorite movie to have.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would've been weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would've been bad if I had never had made me twelve years old.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would've been bad you haven't heard of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would've been five minutes of the podcast that I would like I just wouldn't have known what to do it because you've been you talking about that and him not knowing what it is and then the podcast would have turned into you explaining the plot of infinity war.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would have been hellish.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that's what.
[SPEAKER_01]: The great movie though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's your favorite.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're probably like fourteen years old.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what's the fucking great movie?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's Martian.
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't seen that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll do Matt Damon kick right here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Martian.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You would like Martian.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't get me to watch movies like it's so sad how much effort it takes.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have to watch a movie with someone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know that if I get on my phone I'm being rude to them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I need to be held accountable by watching with someone.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is so funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know you're watching movie with someone and if you look at your phone it's like almost like an attack.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Especially if, especially if it's the other person that picked the movie, then you can't look at your phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because I know if I pick a movie and someone's looking at the phone, I'm like, fuck, if you don't want to watch the movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: You hate me and want me to die.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're all the same person.
[SPEAKER_01]: The second you think about, oh, man, I can't look at my phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the first time my life I've ever really wanted to look at my phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I also, I don't know about you, but like, you know, I have a rule or not a rule, but like, I don't really want to watch a movie with someone.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they've seen it before.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or if I've seen it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because if they've seen it before, then it's like, feel like I'm wasting their time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's also like, um, I don't want to watch it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then, but then we can't pick something.
[SPEAKER_04]: So then we just end up watching something that I've seen.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then if they look at their phone, I'm like, hey, I've already seen this fucking movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm watching it for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you a competitive golfer in terms of money?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I like a game when there's four people.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think without a game with four people, you just end up sort of all kind of lost.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're all pissed off at your own games.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like to be to best ball where the second ball counts in a tie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why have I not heard of that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you play?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your rate?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's your game?
[SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a great game.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you have to ask?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can play it net or gross.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you even play?
[SPEAKER_02]: Wolf is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there's peaceful, if you have to have the right people to actually keep the sky.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wolf's tough because if people got a pay attention, but in this one, it's very easy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just great.
[SPEAKER_04]: To be two, you made a five and a five.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: What did you guys make?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, six, seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: We went.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do love a two.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's you scrambled as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love a team aspect and golf.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love tournaments where it's four ball four man scrambles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: So great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love just rolling for like four consecutive puts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Four or twenty footers whenever everyone's just staring at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as you're just trying to get the line right and you're talking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're playing a scramble tournament tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do wish I like modified four main scramble tournaments where every person has to use a certain number of shots.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that or playing?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, this is just friendly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like we're picking like par as a high score.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just picking it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for coming on the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for your golf boys that you want to dance with Thanks for doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you want to do the show?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like doing the podcast?
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for the invite.
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we should play Rouse with that as like baller.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's just what's grab anyone?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's play some golf.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should bring, um, what's your friend's name?
[SPEAKER_02]: Blake.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's Mr. Spotify playlist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's his.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a big day for Blake.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw Blake in the meeting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big day for Blake.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Frampton vibes.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate it.