WEBVTT 00:00.111 --> 00:02.652 [SPEAKER_00]: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening. 00:03.252 --> 00:10.894 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for download and thank you for subscribing to the latest edition of the Twelve Kyle podcast. 00:11.154 --> 00:13.455 [SPEAKER_00]: I am your boy, twelve Kyle. 00:14.195 --> 00:15.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, check this out. 00:18.176 --> 00:21.857 [SPEAKER_00]: On this episode, what I want to talk about is one of my favorite TV shows 00:22.397 --> 00:27.782 [SPEAKER_00]: And a show that I think is one of the best TV shows to air on network TV during the nineties. 00:28.242 --> 00:30.604 [SPEAKER_00]: And that is the hit TV show Martin. 00:32.346 --> 00:37.650 [SPEAKER_00]: Simply put folks again, it was one of the best TV shows I think to ever be on the air. 00:39.372 --> 00:41.273 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't know, I will explain. 00:41.714 --> 00:47.278 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin was a sitcom that appeared for five seasons on Fox TV. 00:49.180 --> 00:54.763 [SPEAKER_00]: And it aired from August, twenty seven, nineteen ninety two until May first nineteen ninety seven. 00:55.243 --> 00:58.305 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, it was the brainchild of Martin Lawrence. 00:59.026 --> 01:02.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin Lawrence is many of you know comedian actor extraordinaire. 01:03.308 --> 01:06.270 [SPEAKER_00]: During its run, it was one of the highest rated shows on Fox. 01:07.530 --> 01:17.194 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was must see TV, at least for me and my friends, and same like everyone else every Thursday at eight thirty p.m. 01:18.915 --> 01:21.736 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin was a show that we just locked in. 01:22.956 --> 01:27.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin was a show that was about Martin Paine was a fictional character that was his name. 01:28.357 --> 01:31.938 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a disjockey and he lived in Detroit, Michigan. 01:32.879 --> 01:34.599 [SPEAKER_00]: And he lived with his girlfriend, Gina. 01:35.499 --> 01:39.740 [SPEAKER_00]: And he worked at this fictional radio station called WZUP. 01:39.960 --> 01:40.440 [SPEAKER_00]: A.K.A. 01:40.980 --> 01:41.601 [SPEAKER_00]: was up. 01:42.441 --> 01:47.022 [SPEAKER_00]: So, and he would later become the host of a TV show called Word on the street. 01:47.842 --> 01:48.982 [SPEAKER_00]: But Martin was funny, man. 01:49.062 --> 01:52.843 [SPEAKER_00]: That show for me and my friends again, it was my CTV. 01:53.824 --> 01:59.885 [SPEAKER_00]: It was something that we tried to make sure that we did not miss an episode because here's the thing. 02:01.085 --> 02:10.807 [SPEAKER_00]: If you missed an episode, you better have a VCR because if you didn't have a VCR a course in the nineties, there was no, there were no DVRs or anything like that. 02:10.847 --> 02:11.928 [SPEAKER_00]: So you had to record it. 02:12.848 --> 02:16.749 [SPEAKER_00]: And you wanted to, you didn't want to miss an episode because I'll be quite honest. 02:17.629 --> 02:27.137 [SPEAKER_00]: If you missed an episode, I'd just likely your friends and everybody else is going to be talking about that particular episode the next day or the following days. 02:27.637 --> 02:30.840 [SPEAKER_00]: And you wanted to be in the know and in the conversation, right? 02:30.920 --> 02:31.940 [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't want to miss Martin. 02:33.081 --> 02:37.182 [SPEAKER_00]: but it was, it was must see TV for us and it was a show that I thoroughly enjoyed. 02:38.562 --> 02:52.105 [SPEAKER_00]: It did have its downfall as well and I'll touch on that in just a few, but all in all it was a great TV show and if you've been following this podcast, you know that from time to time, I will talk about some TV shows that I grew up watching. 02:53.285 --> 02:57.646 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, so Martin was no exception at the time that it was on air. 02:57.666 --> 03:01.187 [SPEAKER_00]: I was in college at the time in South Carolina State University. 03:02.047 --> 03:10.099 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I made sure that on Thursday nights at eight thirty, I was in the dorm watching Martin. 03:10.860 --> 03:16.409 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a couple of teammates who had VCR so even if we missed an episode, we made sure that we were going to see it. 03:17.830 --> 03:20.491 [SPEAKER_00]: And Martin had a great cast. 03:22.011 --> 03:25.353 [SPEAKER_00]: His cast members, obviously Martin Lawrence was the star. 03:26.273 --> 03:34.197 [SPEAKER_00]: Then his girlfriend, Gina Payne, or her originally was Gina Waters, they eventually got married. 03:35.098 --> 03:46.190 [SPEAKER_00]: played by Tisha Campbell, then you had Tachina Arnold, who starred as Pam, which was Gina's best friend. 03:46.850 --> 03:50.875 [SPEAKER_00]: You had Martin's homeboys called Anthony Payne, aka Cole Brown. 03:51.876 --> 03:59.642 [SPEAKER_00]: and Tommy strong Martin's other home boy played by Thomas Michael Ford. 03:59.662 --> 04:06.168 [SPEAKER_00]: Now the interesting thing about each of them, they all had their own quirks. 04:06.728 --> 04:14.555 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Pam and Martin, even though Gina was Pam's best friend, Pam and Martin didn't like each other. 04:14.615 --> 04:15.976 [SPEAKER_00]: So they were constantly 04:17.157 --> 04:22.440 [SPEAKER_00]: telling jokes and snapping on each other every single time they were in camera. 04:22.800 --> 04:24.581 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was always funny. 04:24.721 --> 04:27.882 [SPEAKER_00]: Cole was again one of Martin's childhood friends from Detroit. 04:29.163 --> 04:41.009 [SPEAKER_00]: Cole was a dedicated and loyal friend, but he wasn't the smartest guy in the room to say the least, but he was dedicated to Martin as a friend and as well as Tommy. 04:41.109 --> 04:42.589 [SPEAKER_00]: And Tommy, well, 04:44.070 --> 04:47.455 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's really not much you can say about time because we don't know where Tommy worked. 04:47.555 --> 04:50.699 [SPEAKER_00]: The famous line is, Tommy ain't got no job. 04:50.779 --> 04:52.281 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody knew where Tommy worked. 04:52.301 --> 05:00.492 [SPEAKER_00]: Tommy would always talk about, I think, where things were going on in his job, whatever, and then Martin would always reply, Tommy, you ain't got no damn job. 05:01.413 --> 05:04.214 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was just a running joke throughout the entire series. 05:04.654 --> 05:07.775 [SPEAKER_00]: So we never knew where Tommy worked or even if Tommy worked at all. 05:09.215 --> 05:16.698 [SPEAKER_00]: But that cast of those, the core members of that particular sitcom, they were great together. 05:16.918 --> 05:17.698 [SPEAKER_00]: Great friendships. 05:18.178 --> 05:26.581 [SPEAKER_00]: They had some legendary episodes speaking of which Martin in its five years aired a hundred and thirty two episodes. 05:27.001 --> 05:30.042 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll talk about some of my favorites and least favorites in just a few. 05:30.642 --> 05:32.783 [SPEAKER_00]: But those were the main characters. 05:33.283 --> 05:38.004 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, there were other characters that was on the show. 05:38.644 --> 05:43.245 [SPEAKER_00]: For instance, there was Stan who ran WZUP. 05:43.866 --> 05:45.946 [SPEAKER_00]: He was played by the actor Garrett Morris. 05:47.206 --> 05:49.667 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there was Sean, who was, I think Sean was an engineer. 05:50.527 --> 05:52.268 [SPEAKER_00]: He was played by John Grace. 05:52.328 --> 05:59.950 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there were also supporting characters who made guest appearances like Brumman from the fifth, excuse me, from the fifth floor. 06:02.911 --> 06:07.432 [SPEAKER_00]: Bro, man, it was played by Reginald Ballard and comedian Tracy Morgan. 06:07.472 --> 06:11.153 [SPEAKER_00]: I think for me, that was the first place I saw Tracy Morgan. 06:11.914 --> 06:13.534 [SPEAKER_00]: He was in season three and four. 06:14.234 --> 06:15.535 [SPEAKER_00]: He was known as Hustle Man. 06:15.955 --> 06:18.716 [SPEAKER_00]: Hustle Man would sell anything literally and figuratively. 06:19.156 --> 06:21.877 [SPEAKER_00]: And there were other characters, you know, throughout the series. 06:22.792 --> 06:32.914 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, one of the main things that I loved about this particular sitcom and Martin was Martin's ability to play other characters. 06:33.635 --> 06:42.857 [SPEAKER_00]: Much like some of his predecessors like Flip Wilson and Richard Pryor, Martin did a lot of different characters on his show. 06:44.637 --> 06:47.341 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just run down a few characters that Martin played. 06:48.001 --> 06:54.570 [SPEAKER_00]: There was Elroy Preston, the mechanic who famously said, don't you know no good and made it a song. 06:55.711 --> 06:58.955 [SPEAKER_00]: The player, King Beef, who had a bunch of chests here. 06:59.836 --> 07:03.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Bob for marketing, which was a white guy that Martin played. 07:04.918 --> 07:12.020 [SPEAKER_00]: The Kung Fu expert, Dragonfly Jones, who was pure comedy. 07:12.560 --> 07:17.562 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin also played a little snottin' nose, Brett named Roscoe, who was always funny. 07:18.262 --> 07:28.465 [SPEAKER_00]: But probably the most recognizable characters that Martin played was one, his mama, mama pain, which was interesting because mama pain 07:30.052 --> 07:30.733 [SPEAKER_00]: had a mustache. 07:32.274 --> 07:41.021 [SPEAKER_00]: So like they did not do a lot of changing of Martin's appearance when he played Mama Payne and Mama Payne famously did not like Gina Martin's girlfriend. 07:42.742 --> 07:47.286 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there was olotis, olotis supreme, rich woman's love and a poor woman's dream. 07:47.926 --> 07:48.847 [SPEAKER_00]: as he would call himself. 07:48.887 --> 07:54.974 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a security guard who had really bad vision, but had the strength of ten men. 07:57.236 --> 08:01.761 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, there was Jerome, the player. 08:03.062 --> 08:04.083 [SPEAKER_00]: from the Himalayas. 08:05.903 --> 08:08.324 [SPEAKER_00]: Jerome, what can I say? 08:08.424 --> 08:10.285 [SPEAKER_00]: Jerome has some of the best lines. 08:11.606 --> 08:14.247 [SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite characters on Martin. 08:14.467 --> 08:17.848 [SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, the ever present, Shanaine Jenkins. 08:17.909 --> 08:21.050 [SPEAKER_00]: Shanaine was around the wayfully as she called herself. 08:22.591 --> 08:25.793 [SPEAKER_00]: She was a runaway girl, bamboo earrings, at least two pair. 08:26.233 --> 08:28.975 [SPEAKER_00]: She was the epitome of ghetto fabulous. 08:29.435 --> 08:37.020 [SPEAKER_00]: Shanane was Martin's next door neighbor who stole the scene several times when she was on camera. 08:37.901 --> 08:44.565 [SPEAKER_00]: So Martin did a great job of being able to play not only himself, but these other characters as well. 08:46.647 --> 08:48.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably my favorite character, 08:50.569 --> 08:56.232 [SPEAKER_00]: My favorite character on the show outside of Martin was definitely drone. 08:57.333 --> 08:59.854 [SPEAKER_00]: drone, I remember. 08:59.874 --> 09:09.139 [SPEAKER_00]: He almost got into a fight with Cole when he went out on a date with Gina. 09:09.419 --> 09:10.639 [SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me, with Pam, I'm sorry. 09:12.360 --> 09:16.843 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was, I mean, Cole was trying to protect Pam. 09:17.983 --> 09:24.086 [SPEAKER_00]: and they almost got into a fight at Rashidhi's bodega, which was pure comedy. 09:25.207 --> 09:28.969 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin playing Jerome, Jerome, again, was a player. 09:29.469 --> 09:35.452 [SPEAKER_00]: He had to go to his teeth and kind of messed up, but he had these great lines. 09:36.293 --> 09:44.217 [SPEAKER_00]: And anytime Jerome came on the screen, I was hooked, but that was probably my favorite character on the show. 09:45.137 --> 09:47.718 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, Lee's favorite character. 09:47.738 --> 09:58.480 [SPEAKER_00]: I probably say my Lee's favorite character was the last in season five Cole had a girlfriend her name was Shinise. 09:59.580 --> 10:06.022 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like her and the reason why I didn't like her was because like she was like super goofy and 10:07.591 --> 10:12.692 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think our character fit because like Cole was already like the goofball of the crew. 10:13.572 --> 10:19.994 [SPEAKER_00]: And to pair Cole and this other goofy woman together, I thought was just terrible. 10:20.914 --> 10:21.714 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like it at all. 10:22.894 --> 10:26.955 [SPEAKER_00]: And up until that point, Cole had only dated Big Shirley. 10:27.455 --> 10:29.596 [SPEAKER_00]: And we never saw Big Shirley's face. 10:30.096 --> 10:32.977 [SPEAKER_00]: Big Shirley was a, how can I say this? 10:35.377 --> 10:38.840 [SPEAKER_00]: plus size woman to say the least. 10:40.402 --> 10:41.963 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, and cold love big women. 10:42.144 --> 10:52.714 [SPEAKER_00]: And so for cold to get now this skinny goofy girl, it just didn't, I didn't like where it was, but nonetheless, those are my favorite and probably least favorite characters. 10:53.354 --> 10:55.476 [SPEAKER_00]: As far as episodes, man, 10:58.368 --> 11:02.189 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's easier for me to pick my least favorite episode. 11:02.249 --> 11:05.870 [SPEAKER_00]: And what I'm about to say is going to surprise many of you probably. 11:06.670 --> 11:13.132 [SPEAKER_00]: My least favorite episode was the episode with them being on Chilligan's Island. 11:15.292 --> 11:23.214 [SPEAKER_00]: If you remember it's the episode where they go off on this island and Martin basically has some issues and then he gets into it with this. 11:24.995 --> 11:25.655 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess like a 11:26.655 --> 11:27.877 [SPEAKER_00]: Some type of animal or whatever. 11:27.897 --> 11:29.259 [SPEAKER_00]: It's supposed to be like a chia pet or something. 11:29.299 --> 11:29.640 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 11:30.301 --> 11:35.949 [SPEAKER_00]: But I thought like that whole episode that scene of him Martin going back and forth with the animal. 11:36.630 --> 11:37.772 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was so corny. 11:38.753 --> 11:39.594 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like it at all. 11:39.915 --> 11:40.596 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. 11:41.737 --> 11:43.199 [SPEAKER_00]: It never appealed to me. 11:43.219 --> 11:46.602 [SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people that love that episode. 11:47.343 --> 11:53.329 [SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely hated that episode and even to this day when that episode comes on, I changed the channel. 11:53.430 --> 12:00.297 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see it because Martin obviously is now and for the last probably ten, fifteen years has been in syndication. 12:01.018 --> 12:03.421 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I love the show. 12:04.182 --> 12:10.470 [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to pick a favorite episode, man, now that's tough because Martin's got a few smoke. 12:10.510 --> 12:12.733 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got quite a few smokers that I just love. 12:13.274 --> 12:16.177 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably my favorite episode on Martin was 12:17.539 --> 12:18.299 [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably a time. 12:19.721 --> 12:30.349 [SPEAKER_00]: The first one was the play is ball episode where Jerome is in a play and in a play is contest versus Huggy Bear. 12:30.890 --> 12:37.195 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you were for me with Black's boy station films, you know Huggy Bear is was like a player. 12:37.815 --> 12:39.638 [SPEAKER_00]: And so played by Antonio Fargas. 12:40.278 --> 12:42.261 [SPEAKER_00]: And that episode was pure comedy. 12:42.361 --> 12:51.852 [SPEAKER_00]: A musical guest was out a young outcast, who I think had only had players ball, may have been the only record that they had out at the time. 12:52.653 --> 12:53.674 [SPEAKER_00]: But that episode was great. 12:53.714 --> 12:56.498 [SPEAKER_00]: Pam Greer, the great-fram Greer was on that episode. 12:58.438 --> 13:01.299 [SPEAKER_00]: Bowlegged Lou from Full Force was in that episode, Grady. 13:02.979 --> 13:03.740 [SPEAKER_00]: His name is Walt. 13:04.020 --> 13:04.780 [SPEAKER_00]: What's his name? 13:04.900 --> 13:08.901 [SPEAKER_00]: Whitman Mayo from San Francisco and he was in that episode as well. 13:09.721 --> 13:11.001 [SPEAKER_00]: Just a star study cast. 13:11.181 --> 13:12.462 [SPEAKER_00]: I love that episode. 13:13.042 --> 13:17.643 [SPEAKER_00]: Any time that episode comes on TV, I will sit down and watch it. 13:17.683 --> 13:19.103 [SPEAKER_00]: I just absolutely love it. 13:19.903 --> 13:26.705 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably my second favorite was the episode that Martin and Biggie were together. 13:27.386 --> 13:46.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Biggie Smalls, the notorious BIG, the way that they made it, seemed was that like Martin, Biggie was a Biggie was himself and he and Martin grew up in the same neighborhood neighborhood childhood friends and Biggie needed a singer, a backup singer for his new video or a new song or something like that and so Biggie 13:47.089 --> 13:49.551 [SPEAKER_00]: came to Detroit has was holding some auditions. 13:50.072 --> 14:00.281 [SPEAKER_00]: People found out that Biggie was staying in Martin's crib and all hell broke loose and it really broke loose between Pam and Gina because they were then battling for Biggie's attention. 14:00.862 --> 14:01.742 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to get on. 14:02.503 --> 14:04.104 [SPEAKER_00]: a funny funny episode. 14:04.985 --> 14:09.928 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know, you know, going into it, how well Biggie would do as far as in acting. 14:10.228 --> 14:11.049 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought he did okay. 14:11.149 --> 14:13.451 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, it's for a rapper to play themselves. 14:13.491 --> 14:19.054 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's that hard, but thought he did a pretty good job, but, you know, seeing Biggie on the screen was dope. 14:19.115 --> 14:21.216 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm obviously, I'm a fan of Biggie's. 14:22.477 --> 14:28.121 [SPEAKER_00]: But those are probably my two favorite, but there were so many, so many episodes, so many great memories. 14:30.442 --> 14:37.664 [SPEAKER_00]: I literally could probably write ten other episodes down and tell you about, you know, they just really just cracked me up. 14:38.184 --> 14:50.347 [SPEAKER_00]: But those first, probably those first four seasons, man, you'd be hard pressed to find one bad episode because they, I mean, Martin delivered every single week. 14:50.507 --> 14:53.148 [SPEAKER_00]: That was one of the things that I loved about that TV show was that 14:54.283 --> 14:55.563 [SPEAKER_00]: Each week you got something different. 14:56.203 --> 15:05.145 [SPEAKER_00]: Each week there was something that was hilariously funny that you were gonna be rolling over talking about and, you know, discussing it with your peers. 15:05.745 --> 15:12.066 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that I remember about Martin was, like, as many, you know, I played football in South Carolina State University. 15:12.766 --> 15:20.508 [SPEAKER_00]: And we would have these trips where we would, you know, if we're going to, like, we'll leave in Orangeburg and we're going to, let's say DC to go play against Howard University. 15:22.309 --> 15:23.870 [SPEAKER_00]: So we would be on the bus. 15:24.350 --> 15:30.273 [SPEAKER_00]: And so naturally, you know, the bus has TV cameras and I'm excuse me, TV monitors and stuff. 15:30.773 --> 15:35.616 [SPEAKER_00]: And so there was a VCR placement where you could put a VCR tape in. 15:37.497 --> 15:43.060 [SPEAKER_00]: And one day we were going to Howard and somebody, and we were supposed to be watching game film. 15:43.840 --> 15:47.422 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was traveling at night and somebody said, man, put the Martin tape in. 15:47.842 --> 15:49.003 [SPEAKER_00]: And somebody had like, 15:50.258 --> 16:05.462 [SPEAKER_00]: like mad episodes of Martin and so they put the tape in it and we literally just watched Martin all the way to DC and that was just funny and our coach was cool with it because he was just like I mean everybody you'd be hard pressed to find anybody that didn't like Martin back there. 16:05.562 --> 16:10.503 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean like sometimes people have their own preferences as to what they like or what they don't like. 16:11.283 --> 16:18.107 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin genuinely was a loved TV show by most at least most of the people that I know. 16:20.088 --> 16:23.890 [SPEAKER_00]: But like as I mentioned earlier, it did have its downfall. 16:24.791 --> 16:27.192 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's downfall with season five. 16:29.350 --> 16:32.771 [SPEAKER_00]: Season five to me wasn't good. 16:33.152 --> 16:33.992 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't good. 16:34.012 --> 16:37.613 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was some controversy and I'll talk about that in just a second. 16:38.234 --> 16:50.979 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think I don't know if the writing was on the wall or if it had run its course, but it's really hard for me, particularly this point to watch any episodes from season five. 16:52.142 --> 16:55.664 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that Chilligan's island episode was Season Five. 16:55.704 --> 16:56.224 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure. 16:56.644 --> 17:01.926 [SPEAKER_00]: I have no reason to go back and look at that episode, but maybe some of you can correct me if you look it up. 17:02.427 --> 17:05.468 [SPEAKER_00]: But no, it was tough. 17:05.568 --> 17:14.072 [SPEAKER_00]: And what happened was, as I mentioned, you had the two stars, Martin Lawrence and Tisha Campbell, who 17:14.692 --> 17:19.779 [SPEAKER_00]: had up until that point, at least from what we thought, had a great working relationship. 17:21.341 --> 17:28.951 [SPEAKER_00]: Their relationship and their companionship and their love for each other really showed on camera. 17:30.293 --> 17:39.240 [SPEAKER_00]: The way that their dynamics were you literally, you could watch them at times and really think like they were real couple off air. 17:39.901 --> 17:51.470 [SPEAKER_00]: I thoroughly enjoyed watching Martin and Gina interact because there were points in time during that run of that show where 17:52.831 --> 17:57.795 [SPEAKER_00]: their relationship, kind of mirrored my relationship with my girlfriend and wife Cherice. 17:59.196 --> 18:15.547 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it was good seeing that type of dynamic, just that level of fun, how they would play with each other, how they would go back and forth with each other, how they would sometimes snap on each other, and then, you know, but at the end of the day, come together and love each other and love on each other. 18:17.547 --> 18:20.968 [SPEAKER_00]: But season five was the last straw. 18:23.249 --> 18:30.991 [SPEAKER_00]: In November of nineteen ninety six, Tisha Campbell, Gina left the series during its final season. 18:31.071 --> 18:34.812 [SPEAKER_00]: She was sighted in tolerable working conditions. 18:34.872 --> 18:44.095 [SPEAKER_00]: She actually found the lawsuit against Martin and the show's producer in nineteen ninety seven for sexual harassment, verbal and physical assaults. 18:46.156 --> 18:50.581 [SPEAKER_00]: The way that they explained it during the series was that Gina was a weight on business. 18:51.662 --> 18:55.045 [SPEAKER_00]: So for the first few episodes, you don't even see Gina at all. 18:55.505 --> 18:57.647 [SPEAKER_00]: So they kind of had to write her out of the script. 18:59.529 --> 19:03.733 [SPEAKER_00]: And so the series, that's what the explanation was that she was out of weight on business. 19:04.333 --> 19:10.295 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was a two-part episode and they said that she was going on a trip and everybody else was coming. 19:10.975 --> 19:25.098 [SPEAKER_00]: But by April of nineteen ninety seven, she settled a lawsuit and she returned to the show for the last two episodes under the condition that she and Martin do not appear on camera together. 19:26.179 --> 19:31.280 [SPEAKER_00]: They weren't on any scenes together, which we knew this was happening in real time. 19:33.193 --> 19:39.676 [SPEAKER_00]: What that did to the show was it made the show feel weird. 19:40.837 --> 19:44.919 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I don't want to dismiss because I don't know what her. 19:45.239 --> 19:48.661 [SPEAKER_00]: I know what we heard her charges were. 19:50.382 --> 19:51.803 [SPEAKER_00]: And it said that the lawsuit was settled. 19:51.863 --> 19:55.825 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if there was any type of money exchanged or apologies or what have you. 19:56.865 --> 20:00.847 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin back then and even now remains very tight-lipped about what happened. 20:02.307 --> 20:05.668 [SPEAKER_00]: T-Chicambo for what is worth doesn't talk about what happened back then. 20:07.249 --> 20:08.789 [SPEAKER_00]: But they didn't share any scenes together. 20:08.809 --> 20:14.991 [SPEAKER_00]: So Gina basically only appears in two episodes of the final season of Martin. 20:17.132 --> 20:20.273 [SPEAKER_00]: And even that was weird because again, we're seeing this in real time. 20:20.593 --> 20:33.679 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like you literally, I think the way, if I'm not mistaken the way they wrote it in the script was like Martin was in Detroit and Gina was in LA and they were showing different scenes of them being in LA. 20:34.119 --> 20:39.361 [SPEAKER_00]: They was supposed to be like on the phone and stuff like that, but they were never on camera together. 20:40.262 --> 20:42.443 [SPEAKER_00]: And so even the last episode, 20:43.823 --> 20:45.785 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just bad. 20:45.905 --> 20:50.811 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was, they didn't land a plane well at all. 20:50.911 --> 20:58.819 [SPEAKER_00]: I just remember the last episode, Martin walked over to the wall that he was, because he was moving from LA. 20:59.660 --> 21:02.023 [SPEAKER_00]: Excuse me, it's from Detroit to LA. 21:02.063 --> 21:03.524 [SPEAKER_00]: He had gotten a new job or whatever. 21:04.345 --> 21:07.968 [SPEAKER_00]: and he wrote the words, one love on the wall. 21:08.888 --> 21:13.532 [SPEAKER_00]: And even Martin, if you go back and look at that episode, he looks sad. 21:13.552 --> 21:24.259 [SPEAKER_00]: I know he's probably sad that the show ended, but the way that it ended and with the controversy and Tisha Campbell not being there on camera with him. 21:25.360 --> 21:26.021 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just bad. 21:26.081 --> 21:35.029 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, since then, Martin Lawrence and Tisha Campbell have reconciled and repaired their relationship and everything seems to be cool. 21:36.811 --> 21:42.976 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was just really sad to see the show in the way that it did to have four great years. 21:43.637 --> 21:46.500 [SPEAKER_00]: And one really bad year was it was 21:47.160 --> 21:47.941 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, it was sad. 21:48.001 --> 21:49.822 [SPEAKER_00]: It was very disappointing as a fan. 21:51.423 --> 21:56.706 [SPEAKER_00]: Personally speaking, like I said, I don't go back and watch any of those episodes from season five. 21:56.746 --> 21:58.807 [SPEAKER_00]: Season five to me does not exist. 21:59.588 --> 22:06.272 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure probably if you weren't around, you're probably asking yourself, well, why was this show popular? 22:07.032 --> 22:10.675 [SPEAKER_00]: This show was popular because it resonated with just about everybody. 22:10.795 --> 22:15.159 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin had a way of making people laugh. 22:15.599 --> 22:20.443 [SPEAKER_00]: Martin had a way of making his co-workers laugh. 22:22.264 --> 22:25.067 [SPEAKER_00]: There are several times where you can watch an episode of Martin. 22:25.887 --> 22:47.738 [SPEAKER_00]: and he'll say something to Cole or he'll say something to Gina and you'll see them almost break character in laughter because Martin was just that funny and sometimes a lot of this stuff they had a script but they gave them the freedom to kind of move around off that script and go off script from time to time so it was an incredible show 22:48.618 --> 22:49.559 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the show. 22:50.159 --> 22:52.841 [SPEAKER_00]: I still will watch it in syndication now. 22:53.361 --> 22:57.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I will watch any episode of Martin that doesn't evolve. 22:59.064 --> 23:00.705 [SPEAKER_00]: So excuse me, season five. 23:02.566 --> 23:07.169 [SPEAKER_00]: In conclusion, I think it's that that show was great. 23:07.469 --> 23:13.153 [SPEAKER_00]: I know in years past, there was some talk that they would do a reboot, but 23:14.493 --> 23:17.034 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's going to happen as many of you know, maybe you don't know. 23:18.495 --> 23:23.997 [SPEAKER_00]: Tommy, who was played by Thomas Michael Ford, passed away in twenty sixteen. 23:24.718 --> 23:29.620 [SPEAKER_00]: He had an aneurysm, so he passed away tragically at the age of fifty two. 23:30.420 --> 23:38.443 [SPEAKER_00]: So honestly, I don't necessarily know if you if you do a Martin reboot, you can't do it out Tommy. 23:39.384 --> 23:39.884 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, 23:41.293 --> 23:43.095 [SPEAKER_00]: Tommy was a key figure in that show. 23:43.155 --> 23:44.636 [SPEAKER_00]: And Tommy had his relationship. 23:45.257 --> 23:49.121 [SPEAKER_00]: He was here at his bond and his brotherhood with Cole and Martin. 23:49.821 --> 23:58.470 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he also had, you know, Pam, as his love interest at a short period of time during the show on camera. 23:59.010 --> 24:03.675 [SPEAKER_00]: And so there was always love and respect in the crew because that's exactly what they were. 24:03.715 --> 24:05.477 [SPEAKER_00]: They were a tight, knit crew. 24:07.098 --> 24:21.487 [SPEAKER_00]: So, if you do a reboot of Martin, and you got Martin, you got Gina, you got Cole, and you got Pam, and no Tommy, I don't know that that could be pulled off the way that you would want it to. 24:22.367 --> 24:25.168 [SPEAKER_00]: it doesn't seem like it would be authentic. 24:25.628 --> 24:31.129 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I know that all of the cast members said like it would be a great idea but they've kind of moved past that and I get it. 24:31.650 --> 24:36.131 [SPEAKER_00]: I've moved past it as well as much as I love and Tommy was Tommy was hilarious. 24:37.711 --> 24:39.672 [SPEAKER_00]: He coined the phrase GTD. 24:40.272 --> 24:41.372 [SPEAKER_00]: Get the drones. 24:45.053 --> 24:52.577 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that episode, excuse me, that series is probably best left where it was in nineteen ninety seven. 24:53.338 --> 24:54.798 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to see a reboot of Martin. 24:55.499 --> 25:01.782 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we're probably doing better off just reminiscing on just how great a show it was. 25:01.922 --> 25:03.403 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, it was must see TV. 25:04.403 --> 25:12.888 [SPEAKER_00]: If you have not seen any episodes of Martin, do yourself a favor when you stop this recording. 25:14.282 --> 25:27.699 [SPEAKER_00]: Go listen to Martin, go watch Martin, go watch a few episodes, get some 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