[SPEAKER_10]: Welcome to drinking thrones, presented by OmahaStakes.com.
[SPEAKER_10]: Sit back, relax, and have a fucking tracer.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, welcome to drinking bros, kids.
[SPEAKER_13]: That Wednesday show.
[SPEAKER_13]: And if you're on Patreon right now and you're looking at the title, just not the phone is blowing up about this.
[SPEAKER_13]: Just know this.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're trying to figure out the Epstein thing together here.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think this is the one topic that has united the country as far as voting bases go on both sides.
[SPEAKER_13]: Government wise no idea and we've brought in a good friend of ours Michael Malis and to discuss it today in the meantime.
[SPEAKER_13]: Banger we've had a banger of year shout out to to Brandon Eckert at the top of the show here he's crushed it across the board we've put in a very very subtle Epstein shirt in this month's bro box that you're definitely gonna want to have because it's one of those things that isn't obvious at all but as soon as everybody reads it they're like okay
[SPEAKER_13]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're all thinking the same thing here.
[SPEAKER_13]: So, highly recommend that.
[SPEAKER_13]: If you got yours last month with the umbrella, obviously, the umbrella was, I don't know, six feet long or whatever it was.
[SPEAKER_13]: Greatest thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: One of the greatest gifts of all time because it saved my family from getting burned at football last night.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is sunproof when proof all that other stuff and then yes, when you say the rest of the item will come with it.
[SPEAKER_11]: You say your family.
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you miss me in all white people?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: As we go white people is what I'm referring to specifically my white family.
[SPEAKER_13]: We've been with my three year old.
[SPEAKER_13]: I got a white six year old and then a white wife.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think we've been victimized by the sun and our due reparations.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that anybody that works in the solar industry owes us money.
[SPEAKER_11]: Is there the ones profiting on that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes or no?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And farming.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you want back?
[SPEAKER_04]: I want my torches.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you haven't seen Michael on previous episodes or in his show, he's got a different plan for reparations.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, firewood.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, you got here out though.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a whole thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm all in.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, and this is for white people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not just Jews.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_13]: Because you're Jewish.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am Jewish.
[SPEAKER_13]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_13]: Whoa, whoa, you out of them, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: Hey, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: A lot of people think you work from a side now.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like, I'm saying, I work from a side.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's a mess.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm a mess.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're getting so many crazy conspiracy theories off this shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's a side.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a side.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm here to make sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: Dan is TBD.
[SPEAKER_13]: The audience.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm mostly working for the Israeli government or the Iran government.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a no sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's definitely okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're clear.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
[SPEAKER_13]: Good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just so we're clear.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there are so reparations must mean reparations, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So you have a car that actually have to repair.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's the right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the point.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you have a car that's worth five thousand, I can't wreck it and give you four thousand.
[SPEAKER_04]: I gotta give you five thousand, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: OK.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So how are you going to have reparations for slavery?
[SPEAKER_04]: A check's not going to cut it because there's no check that's like, hey, I'm going to own your grandma.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not going to make do unless here's the math.
[SPEAKER_04]: Forty one point five million African Americans, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of African Americans.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean black African Americans in this country in this country.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK.
[SPEAKER_04]: Forty one million Canadians.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have demonstrated clearly.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do not want to be free.
[SPEAKER_04]: So invade and slave, Canada.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every African American gets a Canadian slave.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's reparations.
[SPEAKER_04]: Slavery in the South was horrible.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the opposite, slavery in the North is wonderful.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we don't ever have to hear about racism anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got to ask.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been resolved.
[SPEAKER_13]: I got to ask the obvious question.
[SPEAKER_13]: And there's only one because I love your plan.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Is that mean?
[SPEAKER_13]: that this is going to be key for the audience here.
[SPEAKER_13]: Does that mean that the the the the forty one million African Americans from the United States for five forty one point five today did they move to Canada.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, their property comes wherever they want.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, so the Canadians come down here and then they own them here in America or they can on them there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, you're the opposite.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I think we get a property.
[SPEAKER_11]: Forty acres in a Canadian.
[SPEAKER_04]: But no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you want to sell off the property.
[SPEAKER_04]: I we could we could fair what to do with the property.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, but the people property that goes to the African American, but I think I think this would be the overall test is if we sent our forty one and a half African Americans there and said look.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's racist.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's not racist.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, here's why the people is racist.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's not, but we now on Canada.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's all one country.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then we say, hey, do the best that you can with your white slave.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to say why a lot of them aren't white.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a lot of American standards.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and that's why it's not racist.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_13]: Toss those guys in and then see what the results are as far as like GDP and everything else and then how they're doing with their with this like different because per capita when you don't count someone as a full human is excuse them to use the math.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Ah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, Missouri ran into this back in the day.
[SPEAKER_11]: They did.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: What was the percentage human they were?
[SPEAKER_11]: Three fifths.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: So we would have to put it on a sliding scale of three fifths.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_11]: We don't have to stick with sixty percent necessarily.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Canadians are much less than sixty percent.
[SPEAKER_11]: Quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_11]: You think that the average Canadian now is going to be able to have the same work product that a fucking African did in the seveneenth centuries of the way.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, I don't think so either.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think they're going to be lazier.
[SPEAKER_13]: Also the weather is going to be an issue for them.
[SPEAKER_13]: Now the air.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, cuz we're gonna want shit Ken's today.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's not then the flapping heads is a problem.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's not a hotel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where's my hotel?
[SPEAKER_11]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_11]: And you're gonna get a lot of that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I like protein.
[SPEAKER_11]: I like it too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's I don't want to hear that shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: You love it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Um, yeah, it's I mean, it's how do you not like it's it's it's curious.
[SPEAKER_13]: If we go, he'll get it no matter where we go.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's where he got on the road.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: I've spent ten years of them now and yeah, why live it was content for a while.
[SPEAKER_11]: And you get the good cheese, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_11]: Like they have.
[SPEAKER_11]: So you know in certain whatever state you're in, they might have a whole grocery store aisle of the thing that they do and what's content.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not kidding.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's just cheat.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a whole long-ass aisle of cheese.
[SPEAKER_11]: And there's not that many cheeses.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I make a drinking pro suggestion.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dan Holloway, cheese mukbang.
[SPEAKER_11]: What, what?
[SPEAKER_11]: Muckbang was that mean?
[SPEAKER_11]: What's a muckbang?
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you guys really this white?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is you.
[SPEAKER_11]: Can you not see my skin?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I feel like this is all the tattoos I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, fair enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, and this is a thing in Southeast Asia, East Asia, excuse me, with this part of it on YouTube now from America, where people just sit in front of a camera and eat.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's called a muck band.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's called a muck band.
[SPEAKER_04]: So what I would do for you is why don't you try like literally like fifty different kinds of cheese that people have a life street.
[SPEAKER_11]: I will.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you get the weird ones from Italy where they have the maggots in it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah, that's gross.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that is gross.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm a cheese Messiah though.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, got mixed it up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well like fifty different kinds.
[SPEAKER_13]: I can do.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm one of those people who can try every cheese across the planet no matter how awful it smells.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: live stream I actually agree on that yes we did the we did the the steak off together so fifty cheeses oh they'll be the best and tell you we can rank them and you know else you could do I've done this before with caviar so I said when I forget what it was but I had a caviar tasting people can sponsor different cheeses
[SPEAKER_04]: So they're going to shout out, oh, this guy's paying for the expensive one, shout out to Greg Greg.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, Greg from, you know, like blue cheese, I can just take a bite of a block of blue cheese.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, there's eighty different types of blue cheese, though.
[SPEAKER_11]: Totally.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: So you got to get weird stuff.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, whatever Greg is got from whatever, you know, bumfuck town he lives and like that that'd be great.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can always tell Greg sends in like cash.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you buy that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can you tell the difference between fifty and one hundred dollar caviar.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I was shocked to learn that on my wife's dream.
[SPEAKER_11]: Isn't it weird?
[SPEAKER_11]: It was so I thought it was so different.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very different.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a very rich conversation.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm too white trash to be a part of over here.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, because did it really?
[SPEAKER_11]: Caviar is best with cream fresh and cream for each and onions on top of fucking.
[SPEAKER_11]: Of lenie regular potato chips.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so let me tell you.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, salty fucking regular potato chips.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the best.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's the caviar expensive.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's insane.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's a rich man's thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like a lot of bucks and ounce.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It'll give you more.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was immigrant from the Soviet Union.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So because my parents moved across the ocean and get their kid a better life, I went to school with caviar sandwiches on Wonder Bread.
[SPEAKER_13]: no fucking everyone made fun of me.
[SPEAKER_13]: And that was your whole upbringing.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was my upbringing.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's not no wonder.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's why you're drinking out of a giant glass bottle.
[SPEAKER_11]: Look at that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, the richest water, his order in Torchys.
[SPEAKER_11]: I gave that to him.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, Torchys is not.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, with the grubhubbed, those fees, now these days, dog, you're looking at seven, you guys for free.
[SPEAKER_13]: Is that delivered?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, Cooper, look out for that delivered back there.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, I don't even know what's not updating.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, you're good.
[SPEAKER_13]: Either way.
[SPEAKER_13]: So obviously, title the show here is the GOP has voted down the release of the Epstein files.
[SPEAKER_04]: What are what reasons have they given?
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't really know here and we this happened at the end of the show yesterday so we didn't really get to get into it here but the final numbers were
[SPEAKER_13]: to eleven of two ten I think I this one was some abstentions while you have to get to fifty in the past anything yes so uh... bobma send this to your second put it on screen it looks like the final vote and this is why we didn't want to do this yesterday because we didn't have the numbers it looks like it was two eleven of two eleven but bobby's on screen go to your twitter oh yes i i don't know democrats
[SPEAKER_11]: By the way, I guess if you're in unison to eleven across them, I think actually if you have a core on one republic and it's up and down so, uh, JD Vance would had to have voted.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not tied to the Senate.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, is this in the house?
[SPEAKER_11]: Is this in the house?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, uh, press play on this.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_11]: nine Republicans.
[SPEAKER_08]: On this vote, the A's are two eleven.
[SPEAKER_08]: The nays are two ten.
[SPEAKER_08]: The previous question is.
[SPEAKER_11]: The question is on adoption.
[SPEAKER_08]: The resolution.
[SPEAKER_08]: Those are the same.
[SPEAKER_11]: Those are the same.
[SPEAKER_08]: Those are the same.
[SPEAKER_11]: Those are the same.
[SPEAKER_08]: Those are the same.
[SPEAKER_11]: Those are the same.
[SPEAKER_13]: Those are the same.
[SPEAKER_13]: We know Democrats for years have been on this including Bill Clinton.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's got a goddamn portrait inside of there going Maxwell's at Chelsea's wedding and everything else Why would the Democrats all vote?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes to release this list is it because their guys are now gone
[SPEAKER_11]: because the same reason the same I've told me this so many times with obama care the republicans voted sixty three times when they didn't have the votes to get rid of it and when they finally had the votes they voted twice the twenty nineteen and seven and nine of them voted no uh... respectively to get rid of it they're all full of shit republicans have the votes they do and they that's why they fucking nine of them didn't show up the fucking vote
[SPEAKER_11]: Why because if if they showed up and voted no that looks bad if they don't show up to vote like Chip Roy for example.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I'm dealing with the floods in Texas.
[SPEAKER_11]: What are you doing Chip Roy?
[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't blame each other now very easily.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's clean.
[SPEAKER_13]: How because the Democrats were in unison of like hey dude, we still have a look at this almost.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, the Republicans are going to say that the Democrats added a poison pill to it, which they technically did.
[SPEAKER_11]: Which was what?
[SPEAKER_11]: Some crypto bullshit.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like I don't remember exactly what it was.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is good.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but I didn't see that trending afterwards, by the way, but I don't really
[SPEAKER_13]: There was there was definitely I'm not really in a crypto.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I don't I don't know any money in crypto whatsoever do I did for a while and by the way to my sugar in this is a totally honest story I bought her to eight thousand when it fell I sold it at twenty four thousand so it what?
[SPEAKER_13]: But I just went with what I knew and then Ethereum so I had Ethereum as well.
[SPEAKER_13]: The two big ones.
[SPEAKER_13]: I sold it at a twenty four thousand Bitcoin and tripled money because I was worried what would happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: You did the right thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: I am pretty financially conservative and in my life, I don't buy a bunch of flashbacks or anything else.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no shame in making a profit.
[SPEAKER_13]: right, but but when I tell that story now I get hammered by people of like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_13]: But the Bitcoin people specifically, who died hard Bitcoin?
[SPEAKER_13]: They will fucking rage on you all day online of like, dude, I told you this is going past a hundred.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but they're not.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not in there watching.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're making money.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're sitting there watching.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love the idea that somebody triples their money is a moron.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I was totally honest with the audience.
[SPEAKER_13]: We did the same thing with AMC during COVID.
[SPEAKER_13]: We bought it at five.
[SPEAKER_13]: We diamond hands.
[SPEAKER_13]: We diamond hands it drove it up and we totally audience.
[SPEAKER_13]: Hey, we're putting it in a stop quoted seventies.
[SPEAKER_13]: So once it hits seventies, like we're perfecting out of here or whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then boom it did.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then we blew, I think we made forty five thousand dollars off of it.
[SPEAKER_11]: And we used to be blue.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, we blew it all.
[SPEAKER_13]: We took me, you chuckle Dell.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, it was a joy.
[SPEAKER_13]: We went to the Logan Paul fight.
[SPEAKER_13]: Logan, we went for Miami.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: From who?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, can we talk about to the Logan Paul.
[SPEAKER_02]: May what?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was actually the opposite of what you said.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Democrats press for an amendment to a crypto currency legislation.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's, that's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't that they tried to add in crypto shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just mentioned, Logan, can we talk a bit for a second?
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been asking.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I just was he recovering now.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's he is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know Ben.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't realize this he had been my house.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't realize one.
[SPEAKER_13]: I've never heard of a double long trend.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know just watched it last night.
[SPEAKER_13]: So they went over the story on ESPN after the all-star game because he's given his first public statements and everything else.
[SPEAKER_13]: First of all, it's horrifying.
[SPEAKER_04]: Secondly, it looks like CGI.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, there's this video him in his hospital that he's lost fifty pounds.
[SPEAKER_13]: So the exact same thing happened to me when I was in a coma for pneumonia as well.
[SPEAKER_13]: I lost fifty three pounds, I think.
[SPEAKER_13]: However, it was seventeen and a half leaders full of pneumonia in my lungs.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_13]: So that's what the weight was from and we I didn't know obviously because I was going through it, but very similar.
[SPEAKER_13]: My first day.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, God.
[SPEAKER_13]: I looked identical to this.
[SPEAKER_13]: So
[SPEAKER_13]: Don't freak out when you see Ben Asker and this weight will come back on and everything else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is not permanent for him.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's going to have to learn to walk again.
[SPEAKER_13]: Same thing as me.
[SPEAKER_13]: Walk again.
[SPEAKER_13]: Talk again.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's going to need physical therapy for six months.
[SPEAKER_13]: So little harder than what you went through.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's got, well, he had a double long train.
[SPEAKER_11]: So he's got the, he's got the anti-rejection meds too.
[SPEAKER_11]: They have to take for the rest of the time.
[SPEAKER_11]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_13]: So with me, I had the tubes in the side of my chest that sucked everything else.
[SPEAKER_13]: That rips all the scar tissue out.
[SPEAKER_13]: So at some point, I will have to get stem cell treatments.
[SPEAKER_13]: They've given me a variety of options and everything else.
[SPEAKER_13]: And like, it's scarred to a maximum level of like, you know, my insurance and everything else is through the goddamn roof and all that other stuff.
[SPEAKER_13]: I did not lose my lungs.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that's a big one.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it is.
[SPEAKER_13]: So like, but I didn't have staff infections.
[SPEAKER_13]: So that's what caused his pneumonia personally.
[SPEAKER_13]: Was this staff infection that had kind of moved through his body and then got trapped in his lungs where I just had pneumonia for like the the six time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bennett is an athlete.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he lose a healthy lifestyle.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: So shocking to me that something like this could happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel naive.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, if you want to play the clip, God.
[SPEAKER_11]: And we had a lot of staff in Merso and shit like that on deployments.
[SPEAKER_11]: I never had staff infection.
[SPEAKER_11]: So I don't know how about that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Not me personally, never got it, but a lot of our guys got Merso and had to get fucking tissue cut out of their body.
[SPEAKER_14]: If you let it rest, or it like gets bad.
[SPEAKER_14]: I don't even know you have it.
[SPEAKER_14]: I mean, you kind of see it.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a stink coming off your leg.
[SPEAKER_11]: Is that right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Really?
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_11]: I made that part of it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, wrestlers like that's a it's a stinky fucking ball.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, we should it's too bad Georgia.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know because we could ask him about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: He actually he knows Ben too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I'm it's very curious.
[SPEAKER_13]: Play this clip.
[SPEAKER_13]: We might have played it the other day.
[SPEAKER_13]: Forgive us, but this it's important because I'll tell you what he's going to go through here, God.
[SPEAKER_09]: What's up, guys?
[SPEAKER_09]: I have not given you a date in a while.
[SPEAKER_09]: I figured you deserve one.
[SPEAKER_09]: Whenever it is all the way over, I actually just read through my list.
[SPEAKER_09]: Sure and all because
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't remember anything from May, twenty-eight to July two.
[SPEAKER_09]: No recollection.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's a new idea.
[SPEAKER_09]: No idea what happened.
[SPEAKER_09]: We'll kind of go through it all and I just read through my voice.
[SPEAKER_09]: You're going to go through a movie.
[SPEAKER_09]: It's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I only died four times, or the ticker stopped for about twenty seconds.
[SPEAKER_09]: That's ideal.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you guys can go with that.
[SPEAKER_09]: But I got to double it while I'm transplanted.
[SPEAKER_09]: I made it up to the other side of it.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm gaining quite a bit of strength.
[SPEAKER_09]: We're going to use everything again.
[SPEAKER_09]: I was actually on a scale.
[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, if I had ordered four or seven pounds.
[SPEAKER_09]: I've been on four or seven pounds since fifteen years old.
[SPEAKER_09]: So I was like,
[SPEAKER_09]: fifty pounds.
[SPEAKER_09]: You know, for about a year.
[SPEAKER_09]: So man, that was a battle.
[SPEAKER_09]: I don't remember most of it.
[SPEAKER_09]: And you know, the thing that was most impactful to me was, although, well, don't have a tough memory.
[SPEAKER_09]: And it's almost like, it was almost like, I got to have my own funeral.
[SPEAKER_09]: I still remember it thirty years ago and they have short died and you listen to all these old people, you know, recollect?
[SPEAKER_09]: I want you to enjoy it and know what you love them.
[SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, obviously he never had to hear that.
[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sure some people will know him.
[SPEAKER_09]: But, okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: So with him, Delco, I can tell you the difference here.
[SPEAKER_13]: So if you're hearing this and you're an audio listener, or you're watching on video, one, yes, his appearance will pop back, he'll gain weight and all that other stuff.
[SPEAKER_13]: The difference there is he appears to have a tracheotomy there, and his throat swears.
[SPEAKER_13]: I had tubes, nose, and then down the back of my throat, and they were able to rip those out.
[SPEAKER_13]: Later, I don't know what they're gonna do regarding that tracheotomy.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sitch is so it up Potentially I guess can you do that?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: That was Dennis Prager so Is he speaking again?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, yeah physical therapy wise you're looking at Look at you.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, it's so nice of you.
[SPEAKER_04]: It says don't forget your drink and you forgot my drink.
[SPEAKER_13]: You forgot the drink.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm looking at you.
[SPEAKER_13]: Don't forget your fucking drink
[SPEAKER_13]: But sure does Bob respect the meaning okay, there's a drink with that but he'll gain the weight back he'll go through Six eight months of physical therapy learning the walk again talking and all that stuff he will
[SPEAKER_13]: It appears to be back to normal and I don't know if my father went through a long transplant.
[SPEAKER_14]: He's not the same guy.
[SPEAKER_14]: It's been four years.
[SPEAKER_13]: But your dad is also about thirty years older than Ben asks her.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ben, it's not going to be an athlete again.
[SPEAKER_11]: He will not be an athlete again.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think you can drink or anything anymore on those anti-projections.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, you can.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think it's a two year minimum even if you were to attempt it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So like you've got to wait a full two years or you're going to ruin the trans points that you got like he's got a very very long road in recovery.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to hear from you because when the whole time I'm watching this video, well, I can think about it as his wife.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and having to sit there and how I what a strong Amy's a great person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know her that well, but just any wife just to sit and have to go through this is just a complete I can't even imagine it literally.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I was in a coma for eleven days and like looking back and like it's hard to watch this because it was almost identical.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like I've got pictures which I chose not to share.
[SPEAKER_13]: You guys only want to came back on air.
[SPEAKER_13]: But inside the hospital and yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's the hardest thing is the family and then everybody else.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, so Jesse his wife was in and they would cut from time to time their hospital would call her obviously he's can't stay there for forty he was in for like forty days.
[SPEAKER_12]: Well, they threw you out.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I was there for forty five.
[SPEAKER_11]: So they would call me like, hey, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And she was like, hey, look, don't call me unless he's either going to wake up or die because I can't deal with this shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm sure she's understandable.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm sure you like you did the right thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't you weren't any help sitting there.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, and I didn't you know I could I could say looking back like I felt her in the room in different things.
[SPEAKER_13]: I knew when she left when she wasn't there.
[SPEAKER_13]: Hard to describe.
[SPEAKER_13]: But watching this is is difficult because it's It was similar at the time.
[SPEAKER_13]: Obviously not too long transplants puts a comma for eleven days and so when he was talking to the top of the video like
[SPEAKER_13]: Hey dude, there's a full six days that I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_13]: It was eleven and my favorite team was in the world series and I missed the entire world series and when I woke up my wife was like you're not going to believe this.
[SPEAKER_13]: Raise one of the world series and I was talking exactly like he was but I tubes down my throat and I go you're fucking kidding me as she goes now and I go I don't believe you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't believe you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love that that's her priority.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, and then the other thing too is like you're on so many meds after that.
[SPEAKER_13]: So like it was in there for another thirty five days on top of that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't really remember much Bob actually a producer was the first one to show me a highlights of that world series when I got back to the studio for the first time.
[SPEAKER_13]: You know two months later and I watched that was the first time ever watched the world series highlights and it was two months later.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a I had asked this question.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure there's a small part of you that was like did I do this?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, we we've thought about right cuz I weren't me and Bobber both British fans who we thought about fucking his ass up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, what after Trump got shot he got so much more based some people like they just got to switch the fake flick.
[SPEAKER_13]: I Hey man like
[SPEAKER_13]: Personally, all this shit didn't change.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I can say this is my wife told me real quick.
[SPEAKER_13]: She was like, oh, all right, cool man.
[SPEAKER_13]: You're like, everything's back.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I think you the biggest part is trying not to think about how close you were to death because once you do, you probably saw me during this video.
[SPEAKER_13]: You get choked up about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was losing, I was outside raising cans when I saw this that I started crying almost because when you, it's also just the visual.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: When someone you've shaken hands with all of a sudden, it looks like an AIDS patient and they're talking, like I almost thought, it's just like it's annoying to have a family.
[SPEAKER_04]: It really doesn't number on you.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's, that's a humor still comes through, which is really great.
[SPEAKER_13]: A hundred percent, and like to this day, because we have an app on drinking bros app, there's listeners two days ago that just said, hey man, remember when you would AIDS and you were dying?
[SPEAKER_13]: It was over three years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like never completed a rid of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just not the tech.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_11]: You have to, the only way to get rid of age is to give it to somebody that doesn't have it.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's the ring.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: What's the difference?
[SPEAKER_11]: Is there really a difference?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, once a video tape and once a dick.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, and then when you watch something like this, but a condom on that video table before you put it in.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the trick.
[SPEAKER_13]: When you watch something like this, and then you go back to the fucking Epstein problem when the government, you're like, man,
[SPEAKER_11]: How bad do we really fucking have it versus all this other shit and everything is really it's not about like people measure their lives in such weird ways you know what I mean yeah like oh things are so bad right now things are never as good or as bad as you think they are right yeah and you like you you
[SPEAKER_11]: Everybody that can hear the sound of my voice has met somebody that has money that's miserable and somebody that doesn't.
[SPEAKER_11]: That shit doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_11]: Even the circumstances of your life in some regards don't really influence your personal happiness.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't know what this video makes me think of is that it's such that our culture is so skewed.
[SPEAKER_04]: to say negative, hurtful, awful nasty things with shine line, that you think that the nice things don't matter, but it's not true.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you are a fan of something like something, say those kind words, even the person doesn't respond, because he's a great example of someone who woke up from four times death, and he saw those comments, and it's bringing him to tears, and then it's not exactly a crybaby.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: That meant something to him.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's easy to shit on him, but it's also a beautiful place.
[SPEAKER_04]: It can be.
[SPEAKER_13]: It turns so quickly that it's just like, you know, like, with Ben asking, for example, the only thing we have is the memes of him getting knocked out by Jake Paul.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: And that's sort of, unfortunately, what he's kind of defined by and most famous for.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he knows this.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, we got this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we got this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Are you talking to him about it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you talked to him about it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, he's got his head.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's been the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing was with these wrestler guys, and Ben was like a amateur.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hate calling it amateur could more real than real wrestling.
[SPEAKER_13]: But he was a national champion.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was no joke.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was one of the very best in the world.
[SPEAKER_04]: Very, very skill.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he was it, uh, Missouri, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: And he was Chandler's kind of, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's guys are animals.
[SPEAKER_04]: So when you're at that level, and you guys know those people your friends with, they're really often very thick skinned.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they have a good sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're about themselves because if I can kill anyone I want with my bare hands, if you're making fun of me, I don't really care because we at the end of the day, we know it's going to win.
[SPEAKER_04]: In a back out for now in the restaurant in the White House.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's winning.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm actually am to hear that news.
[SPEAKER_13]: I look back at it and it's like do that video has been played so many times.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was like this party didn't say to me, but he got a good payday.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not known for his strike.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great payday.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's never been known for his striking.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: It still takes nothing away from his wrestling skills or his MMA career.
[SPEAKER_04]: So who cares?
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, I think on this show, because Georgia was one of our old producers who used to work here, he was Ben's teammate in college.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: And so he's said how great Ben was.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's the best he's ever seen and everything else.
[SPEAKER_13]: When we did the bet live on air, and I took Jake Paul versus Ben Askron.
[SPEAKER_13]: He was so adamant that Ben was going to win then he goes, I'll bet you whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_13]: And he's a Italian guy.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, I just said, hey, I want you to die your fucking head entirely blond.
[SPEAKER_13]: As an Italian guy like that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, it looks like I'm just stripped that hair.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a four to six hour, oh, he's Greek.
[SPEAKER_13]: What would I say?
[SPEAKER_13]: Fuck off, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: Fuck you for that's mediterating.
[SPEAKER_13]: That was what you wanted a chime in for was to change Greek to Italian.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's a big difference.
[SPEAKER_13]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, so Greeks I'm gonna steal Delco's joke from earlier Greeks invented three sums and Italians decided to invite women
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, then I'd rather be in Italian.
[SPEAKER_13]: So fuck off.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Grease home.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Grease hasn't been a functional country in a very long time.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: They are socialists as shit.
[SPEAKER_13]: But with that.
[SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, he had to, he to get that strip died.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think that total process caused some six hours just to die at blind because that's how black his hair was.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's self respect.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he brought that look for a while.
[SPEAKER_13]: Did it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Those roots must have come in like overnight.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, in an hour.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, he looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: He looks like a hover-seps and shapes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_13]: I talked in like fifteen minutes awesome and I go really and he goes dude to deal with the back end of the invoices and the yelling at people in the lawyers and all that other shit and goes I can guarantee you I think I'm happier than him no matter how rich he is there was an art and it fucking last night when I drove home
[SPEAKER_13]: The full disclosure for the audience and you.
[SPEAKER_13]: I was like, fuck man.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like, even the Scotty chef for the thing, I was like, maybe I'm just living my life wrong and I'm chasing the wrong phone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone talked about how Michelle Obama was miserable the whole time she's in the White House and there was an article about Hillary Clinton was first lady and it's that she was in a state of perpetual rage.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you could so see it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So a lot of these powerful people are, you know, doesn't seem particularly happy with me nowadays.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm happy to me nowadays.
[SPEAKER_13]: But he wasn't happy going through the process.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I remember watching that that infamous breakdown video.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think it was sixty minutes.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're, I mean, he had a mental breakdown in his office and he was crying on camera and it's just, and that was PayPal.
[SPEAKER_13]: We are fucking ninety companies passing at this point in a world of hatred on top of it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, God knows what he's going through.
[SPEAKER_13]: We might be fucking miserable.
[SPEAKER_11]: A big part of the difference I think is visibility, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: So the vast majority of people get to have the worst moment of their life in private.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that's not true for people that are in the public eye.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it's like when I see people go crazy like these young actresses, for example, I'm like fucking I get it.
[SPEAKER_13]: We're actors.
[SPEAKER_13]: I look at it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, but it's mostly like sometimes it happens to actors.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, mostly it's women, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: The younger women like Britney Spears, or fucking Amanda Bines, a people like this, they're so at or or the the other one.
[SPEAKER_11]: Pan-trappled, what's her name?
[SPEAKER_11]: Lindsey Lowhand, it's like dozens of years.
[SPEAKER_13]: She was able and into her credit.
[SPEAKER_13]: She was able to pull herself out of that.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's something very, very well for herself right now.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then the ones that are able to pull in, she moved out of America and she said, you know what?
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not dealing with any of this fucking bullshit.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm gonna live here.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm gonna stay out of the public eye, and I'm gonna do this, and then I think she got married to, uh, maybe an Italian or a cat, it might have been Greece.
[SPEAKER_13]: Fuck off, Delco.
[SPEAKER_13]: Whatever she got married to.
[SPEAKER_11]: Nobody knows the difference.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: She's not gonna have to deal with anymore.
[SPEAKER_11]: But then the ones who were able to avoid it, like Hillary Duffer example, just went on about her life.
[SPEAKER_11]: Candace Cameron, just went on about her life, normal life.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's impressive.
[SPEAKER_13]: To be able to go through all that shit and have... They had strong foundation though, I will say this.
[SPEAKER_13]: Knowing who their parents were, behind the scenes, and everything else, it really helps in strong families as far as brothers and sisters go.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, they were able to pull themselves out of it.
[SPEAKER_11]: But you got to remember that stuff, like not just the celebrities are obvious, but people who live to some degree in the public eye, athletes, and shit like that, or people that do, I mean, us shackling off last night, and said he was going to fucking punch that dude in the face, if he said one more thing about Angel Reese, and he goes, I don't give a fuck what comes out of your mouth.
[SPEAKER_13]: It was an RG three.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't give a fuck what comes out of your mouth anymore.
[SPEAKER_13]: If you ever post a fucking picture or post like this again against this woman, like you were just going all in for no reason right now, like you've done your job, you've said what you had to say, move the fuck on and quit harping on this in every single goddamn day because you're going to ruin somebody's life.
[SPEAKER_13]: Now in regards to this show and what we're talking about here, it feels like this Epstein thing we are all
[SPEAKER_13]: population wise minus politicians united on this one thing of what we want we want the pedophiles out of government and all this other shit that we voted for and we're paying for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think there's a huge percentage of population that doesn't care that they don't think this is a real thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: I have not talked to anybody in real life that is said otherwise.
[SPEAKER_11]: When you're talking about MAGA and not people that are on Twitter or who listen to this show of people that work at gas stations and in working cubicles.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's fifty to sixty percent don't care.
[SPEAKER_11]: They'll do whatever Trump says is the gospel.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or Trump's the devil.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it's like that's the majority of human beings.
[SPEAKER_13]: So what do you tell people now?
[SPEAKER_13]: And Dan, I know you've said this for years and years and years, so you're excluded from this.
[SPEAKER_13]: But what do you tell people now who are so disenfranchised with the government?
[SPEAKER_13]: Because me and I'm one of those, by the way, I'll admit it.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm one of those people who voted for Trump.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I thought he was going to release the app seamless.
[SPEAKER_13]: I thought he was going to change this.
[SPEAKER_13]: I thought he was going to not do this big beautiful bill.
[SPEAKER_13]: Now I'm happy with a lot of things that he's done.
[SPEAKER_13]: But
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm pissed off that a lot of things that he promised on the campaign trail that aren't happening, would he tell everybody else now, Michael, like, of how to look at all the shit that's going on right now?
[SPEAKER_04]: You're asking the anarchists when I should tell people how they think about government.
[SPEAKER_13]: what do you think right now like what what's the proper response to this because we just saw that vote as deadlock two eleven and two eleven and by the way if you would ask me this six months ago i would have said it was going the other way uh... incorrect so if you're asking me what i think people should do uh... if i answer that question honestly i would be banned from the internet
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're way past the point when the founding fathers would have been stacking bodies.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I honestly think, you know, a seriousness, this Epstein thing is a drop in the bucket.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, let's suppose you had two hundred clients.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the amount of damage being done by Washington to
[SPEAKER_04]: everyone in America and across the world is so much worse than this that in a sense it's almost a distraction because I assume that everyone can I curse I assume that every single politician my operating assumption is that every single politician Washington either wants to fuck kids fuck your kids or kill them like that's my one-on-one that's my opening so this isn't like really what what isn't making sense
[SPEAKER_04]: is how bad this cover up is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not selling it well.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand that at all because if I were being held hostage, let's walk that through, I sure as hell would know how to sell it.
[SPEAKER_04]: When I would think I'd do a better job than like, I didn't say what I said five minutes ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what I said.
[SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: It doesn't make sense to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're crossing your hostage videos.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're much more persuasive.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: A hundred percent and this this keeps getting worse every single day including the video today.
[SPEAKER_13]: Bomb go to Twitter real quick and play Trump's response today.
[SPEAKER_13]: When I watched that this morning, I was like, there's no fucking way you're gonna.
[SPEAKER_11]: You're making this worse on a daily basis.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, what I've mostly said about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's there it is Bob right there.
[SPEAKER_11]: What I've mostly said about it recently is that they're gonna study this in political science classes in the future about how not to handle something because this has been very bad.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, again, cuts play in this video.
[SPEAKER_06]: on the QJ and FBI review the findings of that review.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's very, very quick briefing.
[SPEAKER_06]: What did she tell you?
[SPEAKER_06]: What did she tell you about the review?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's typically things she's told you at all that your name up here in the bottom.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, she's giving us
[SPEAKER_01]: just a very quick briefing and in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Komi.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were made up by Obama.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were made up by Biden.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we went through years of that with the Russia, Russia, Russia,
[SPEAKER_01]: with all of the different things that we had to go through.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got three years of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But she's handled it very well and it's going to be up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do not believe that Barack Obama made up the Epstein list.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: Unless you're talking about it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Again, Galane was at the wedding.
[SPEAKER_13]: We have video of Galane at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
[SPEAKER_13]: Biden was there.
[SPEAKER_13]: They were the Obama's with like, I mean, everybody was there.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's quite a few undeniable facts.
[SPEAKER_11]: So you can make
[SPEAKER_11]: It Donald Bar recruits, Epstein to work at this don't in school.
[SPEAKER_11]: Donald Bar is an OSS guy.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay, fine.
[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe that maybe it didn't happen exactly like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: So there's that's smoking out fire.
[SPEAKER_11]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_11]: Epstein was at knock at Showgees.
[SPEAKER_11]: Finance here, and AdNock and Shogi was the primary weapons trafficker for the CIA during Iran Contra.
[SPEAKER_11]: That is incontroveritable.
[SPEAKER_11]: That is fact.
[SPEAKER_11]: Nobody can deny any of that.
[SPEAKER_11]: The fact that the State Department provided him a residence in New York City can deny that either.
[SPEAKER_11]: So this idea that he's not intertwined with the
[SPEAKER_11]: with the intelligence community in America is assnied.
[SPEAKER_11]: Nobody believes that.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's too much evidence.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now, not only is there too much evidence, but you ran on fucking exposing the evidence.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's a big sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: If that's true, and I've nobody says doubt it, why isn't the intelligence community sitting Trump down in October and being like, here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you become president, you can't release this because of X, Y, and Z. Because someone said it to him at some point, why wouldn't you, that you're them, say that to him as soon as possible?
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[SPEAKER_04]: First term.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know and Dan has said this in the past.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like Biden, not only did you not provide him with a proper secret service when he got shot and all that other stuff, but like he did not have those briefings, right?
[SPEAKER_13]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: So you're going out there and saying all this shit.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then our biggest issue is like we've had cash but tell on the show.
[SPEAKER_13]: We've had pretty much every single member of the camera on here.
[SPEAKER_13]: You've had every single person say, I've already seen this list.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know he's on it's a cash betell included and everything else.
[SPEAKER_13]: Has that explicitly?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: And he said it like in multiple interviews like and I'm going to release this and I'm going to do this in this in this for not only Trump, but for cash, Bungino and everybody else to change tune after what you've been saying for the last five years on every podcast in America.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sorry, we don't hear.
[SPEAKER_11]: We were lying on our podcast.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think they were lying.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think this this is the principal charity take right the the phrase the list became an effigy for the files that exist right now did anybody think that there was like on a note pad with
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a list of the people and maybe I actually did.
[SPEAKER_11]: I believe that a little bit.
[SPEAKER_11]: So none of those his role of Dex has been published.
[SPEAKER_11]: The numbers that he has have been published.
[SPEAKER_11]: Whether they were clients of his or not who knows what we don't know anything about that.
[SPEAKER_11]: But there was flight logs.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a list that we should that should be completely unredacted published and the visitor logs or whatever exists and all of the audio video
[SPEAKER_11]: from that island that exists and I want to fucking see it or I want to have somebody that I trust look at it because this is what happens there's ten thousand hours of this video right allegedly this is what the fucking FBI it admits to at least there's ten thousand hours that's four hundred and sixty in consecutive days without a break
[SPEAKER_11]: One man didn't make all that.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's video of a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_11]: I want to see and this sucks because sex crimes people, I have friends that do that work and they usually rotate in and out.
[SPEAKER_13]: They fight it.
[SPEAKER_11]: They fight it.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's the worst job.
[SPEAKER_11]: They have to sit.
[SPEAKER_11]: So somebody has to and you can look back to true detective season one.
[SPEAKER_11]: Somebody has to sit there and watch all this shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_11]: To see if anybody ever shows their face, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Because that person's got my opinion they got to die.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, actually every single second.
[SPEAKER_11]: Every second.
[SPEAKER_13]: Every second.
[SPEAKER_11]: One, there's no way at this point in the administration has ten thousand hours of video have been viewed by anybody.
[SPEAKER_11]: So if they say they review the files, they're full of shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a lie.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's another lie to stack on top of it.
[SPEAKER_11]: But that's the information that I want.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't know if there was some government conspiracy to blackmail people or not.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't really that part is the least of my concern.
[SPEAKER_11]: I know that rich and powerful people to include celebrities and excuse me and politicians went to that island where batship was happening.
[SPEAKER_11]: I want to know which ones of them did it.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that's a fucking reasonable expectation and this shit that he's saying is fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, you're trying to revise history.
[SPEAKER_11]: You're doing what Biden did.
[SPEAKER_11]: And his only term, thank God, is ask people to believe something other than what their eyes and brain are telling them.
[SPEAKER_04]: But here's the thing, Dan Bungino's the one that doesn't make sense to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's not like his lifelong dream was to be deputy director of the FBI.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's got a huge career, he's got bank.
[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't need this shit, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: He's got a reputation, he's got a brand.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if I'm him and I get flipped, I would go through, I'd be like, look,
[SPEAKER_13]: here's how it seems here the step I go step by step I started here this is why I thought this here's what I learned but it wasn't that it not only was it not that but also you have hours and hours worth of podcast footage of himself because his podcast was massive yes he walked away from
[SPEAKER_13]: We know the numbers and it was a a fuck ton of money millions and millions of dollars from podcast course, but he's got so many hours of talking about how we know what this is and everything else same with cash but tell so like how do you go back on that's where Trump ran on it so that's fresh everybody That was all the way up soon November and why did they let him run on it?
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'd understand.
[SPEAKER_11]: You tell them the intelligence community.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, what you your response to that is that Biden didn't give in the briefings.
[SPEAKER_11]: The intelligence community is not in any way run by the president.
[SPEAKER_11]: That is a completely separate arm of the government.
[SPEAKER_11]: So who is that?
[SPEAKER_11]: It should be.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like so people were talking about.
[SPEAKER_11]: uh... neftali whatever the fuck the other day said the israel wasn't involved in any obscene shit and you know he might from his perspective that might be true it might be true because the prime minister is real specially a pussy like he was fucking massade in my dear not clue in and on everything that's going on using the president united states knows everything that the agencies up to
[SPEAKER_11]: Because the agency literally clipped one of our presidents for getting too nosy around it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Let's be real about that.
[SPEAKER_11]: The half and about sixty years at sixty five years ago or something.
[SPEAKER_11]: Or how long ago.
[SPEAKER_13]: So then let me ask you this.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'll turn that question around you and say.
[SPEAKER_13]: Did somebody from the intelligence community come to Trump and say, look, man, this is so bad that you could get fucking.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_13]: That would be speculation.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why wouldn't they say that in July?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I will believe that in a second.
[SPEAKER_04]: The point is if your job is to keep something from fire from going on a control, you've got a phone and you're like, look, you just got shot in the air.
[SPEAKER_04]: We missed this time.
[SPEAKER_04]: We only got to get lucky once.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why wouldn't you do that?
[SPEAKER_02]: In Trump's defense, he did also say that Biden appointed Jerome Powell today.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, I heard that as well and he appointed he made that a point scene twenty seventeen.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, it like what was yeah, that's he's not he's not he's not doing well right now and I understand it Bob there's another clip here with Trump and this was three hours ago and again, it's just you keep talking about it over and over and over again.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's just going to stir up everybody else's curiosity like
[SPEAKER_13]: either stop answering the question and then people aren't going to stop asking that's the problem.
[SPEAKER_13]: You think they are?
[SPEAKER_13]: They are.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'll get your take-out to this guy and press play this is him inside the Oval Office.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know you want to move past all this intrigue over the Epstein files, but I don't want to ask you to clarify something you said this morning.
[SPEAKER_07]: You said this was all the hoax.
[SPEAKER_07]: Has your attorney general told you this was a hoax?
[SPEAKER_00]: What evidence have you seen?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it's a hoax.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's started by Democrats.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been run by the Democrats for four years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Christopher Ray and these characters and come here before and
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bad group.
[SPEAKER_00]: It started actually looking at the steel dossier that turned out to be a total hoax.
[SPEAKER_00]: The fifty-one agency intelligence, so-called intelligence agents.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a hoax.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all been a big hoax.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's perpetrated by the Democrats and some stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans fall into the net.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they try and do the Democrats work.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Democrats are good for nothing other than these OXs.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're bad for policy.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're bad for picking candidates, they can get elected.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like in New York, we have a communist running.
[SPEAKER_00]: You may get elected too, actually, but he's going to kill destroy the city.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: I call it the Epstein Hokes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Takes a lot of time and effort.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had,
[SPEAKER_00]: A great gentleman yesterday is, you know, one on CNBC and he made the statement that Trump made good down as the greatest president of all in the United States.
[SPEAKER_00]: And instead of talking about the things we've achieved, we've had tremendous achievement.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're wasting their time with
[SPEAKER_00]: a guy who obviously had some very serious problems who died three or four years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather talk about this success we have with the economy, the best we've ever had and all of the things we've done included in the Middle East.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, they want to talk about the Epstein Oaks and the sand part is it's people that are
[SPEAKER_00]: We're really doing the Democrats' work.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's stupid people.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so why would the Democrats put Bill Clinton's name on that list?
[SPEAKER_13]: And why put a portrait inside of Epstein's house on... We've all seen the portrait inside of Epstein's house in St.
[SPEAKER_13]: James Island.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, if you thought this... The portrait was a Manhattan.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Was W like fucking yeah, was he taking a shed or something yeah, we're doing cocaine I think maybe he just had W's bathroom selfie who knows I'll look it up Yeah, look down when I've seen we all know the the infamous Clinton one and then to make matters worse not was or those two interviews today he just posted on truth social
[SPEAKER_13]: The Radical F-Democrats of it paid her again, just like with the fake and fully discredited steel dossier, the lying fifty-one intelligence agents, the laptop from hell, which the Dems War had come from Russia.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, it came from Hunter Biden's bathroom and even in Russia, Russia, Russia, scam itself.
[SPEAKER_13]: Totally fake and made up story using it to hide crooked hillaries.
[SPEAKER_13]: Clinton's big loss in twenty sixteen presidential election these scams and hoaxes are all the democrats are good at it's all they have they have no good governing no good policy uh... no good at picking winning candidates also unlike republicans uh... they stick together like glue their new scam uh... is what we were forever called the Jeffrey Epstein hoax and my past supporters we want to wait you know uh... it goes my past supporters
[SPEAKER_13]: who have bought into this bullshit, hook line and sinker and he said the word bullshit.
[SPEAKER_13]: And they says they haven't learned their lesson and probably never will, even after being cons by the lunatic left for eight long years.
[SPEAKER_13]: At a certain point, if you want this to go away, you've got to stop talking about it all fucking day long.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is, it's barely three o'clock here, central time.
[SPEAKER_13]: And we have two interviews in a fucking post about it.
[SPEAKER_13]: So,
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't I think it's gonna go away because a certain point if you keep stonewalling what what's the where's the momentum?
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I don't know Bob is this the portrait and absent will this make sense this is the bush portrait.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, this makes total sense obviously like this is how we all picture bushes Okay, I'm not even kidding.
[SPEAKER_04]: It potentially could be
[SPEAKER_04]: We're reference.
[SPEAKER_13]: I would buy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what's interesting with the context of this painting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like he just had a bunch of satirical paintings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: There were no reference thing that dress and that's him referencing the plane.
[SPEAKER_02]: So is this split then that we had in the house because all of them are on like for no I mean not that no no because Bill Clinton is mentioned in the Epstein files, but it just seems like these are a series of satirical paintings about the presidents and the things they're known for.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I would probably.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's some hard truths that people need to start facing about this.
[SPEAKER_11]: One of them is that most people don't give a fuck.
[SPEAKER_11]: We try to think that they do people that are involved in politics definitely care.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the people who are loyalists on either side don't.
[SPEAKER_11]: They either the people on the left who are loyal is either care because they think a damage Trump the people on the right who are loyalists Don't care because they think it might damage Trump frankly.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's how it is But people who are middle folk care because it's government corruption and that that fucking pisses people off right so This premise that the left created this is crazy
[SPEAKER_11]: You can it's easily dismissible and you can verify that it's false by looking at all the news reports from twenty twenty four the entire campaign season twenty twenty three the even back to fucking twenty twenty when they ran for president uh the for when he ran for president the second time we ran for reelection no Democrats were talking about this
[SPEAKER_11]: There were no prominent Democrats, not they're saying we need transparency on Epstein.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's all about two fucking weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like you breaking this down is almost like a waste of time because it's so ridiculous, like how do you even know where to start?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a nine eleven reference.
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael, this is the full painting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit, fucking called it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude.
[SPEAKER_11]: They taught me.
[SPEAKER_11]: Wow, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, you guys did it.
[SPEAKER_11]: So here's another hard truth that you need to understand.
[SPEAKER_11]: The vast majority of the people that were sex trafficked to Epstein's island or to his residences in New York and Florida were sixteen or seventeen years old.
[SPEAKER_11]: as young as fourteen, so it didn't happen, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: But sixteen and seventeen in a lot of states is fucking legal to be frank, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: So people say pedophile pedophile pedophile over and over.
[SPEAKER_11]: We're not talking about literal children.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think it's evil what they did.
[SPEAKER_11]: They definitely fucking abused people.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it's very likely that they abused people and had others abuse them in support of an operation to be able to blackmail them.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that's there's probably some smoke around that.
[SPEAKER_11]: However, it wasn't infants, six year olds, eight year olds.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was late teens for the most part, almost exclusively actually.
[SPEAKER_11]: There was a couple of examples where it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_11]: So I think there's a very good reason to be pissed off about all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_11]: Primarily the fact that obviously something's happening because they wouldn't be trying to cover it up as much if there wasn't.
[SPEAKER_11]: Obviously something's happening.
[SPEAKER_11]: But be very clear about what you're complaining about.
[SPEAKER_11]: a guy who was a lifelong government asset was engaged in a bunch of fucked up behavior and whether it was intentional or people are also just perverts got roped into it.
[SPEAKER_11]: And maybe there's a conspiracy regarding blackmail.
[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe there's not to me that doesn't matter whether or not Epstein ever blackmailed anybody doesn't matter to me.
[SPEAKER_11]: to a private island where wealthy people and politicians came to you and I want to know who the fuck it was and they're actively trying to cover it up and it's really important from time to time to flex on the state right it is the balance of power between nuclear fusion and gravity and a star that holds it together right in a sphere and burns
[SPEAKER_11]: That process is really important to maintaining liberties we go on.
[SPEAKER_11]: When the state thinks they can get away with anything, they will fucking do everything to you.
[SPEAKER_11]: And when the state is big and powerful, the individual is small and weak.
[SPEAKER_11]: And we can't allow that.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's not how we think here.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's not how it's supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_11]: So that's why people who actually pay attention to politics are fucking pissed.
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing, the thing that's also interesting to your point, I agree with you, is whether they were blackmailed or paid voluntarily, it's not really the issue.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I'm right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I really don't care if they were forced.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even, they just chose to make a fucking escape.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_13]: So like, I want all that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm both sides, I don't give a fuck who it is, get them out and let's move on with their lives.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's like, so this is, we don't think of it this way, but it's the type of bait you're using to catch what you want to catch.
[SPEAKER_11]: Unfortunately, we're going to have politicians, and they all most of them fucking suck.
[SPEAKER_11]: But if we set up a system that allows predatory abuse of other people, and that's what draws people, we will get more psychopaths involved in that fucking process.
[SPEAKER_11]: That is not what you want to do.
[SPEAKER_11]: You don't want to set a fucking trap.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like if you're trying to catch a certain type of animal, you don't put a bait that they're not going to come to.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's making sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: Trump and Pam Bondi, Amdem von Gino and Cash are all equally blackmailable or all equally corrupt.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't think any of them are involved in any of this shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: And why are they acting like this?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is just conjecture, but my theory on Trump is he doesn't want to be the president when all of this falls apart.
[SPEAKER_13]: And he's there's, but by if you mean government?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I think if if you if people if people saw the scope of how many people were involved in this and what they did,
[SPEAKER_04]: or it could be the scope of how involved the intelligence agencies.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, either way, or our relationship with Israel, maybe, or any of that shit, even if it's just like, here's the problem.
[SPEAKER_11]: So much hiding has been done since the early sixties on this stuff that any little morsel seems like it validates every theory anybody's ever had.
[SPEAKER_11]: All Israel must be doing this or doing that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Israel's a fucking government like any other, which means they're fucked and corrupt.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think that all four of them are such hardcore Zionists.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they'd ruin the reputations for the sake of Israel.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know, I mean either.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_13]: So what is your theory?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's dead by Gina found out that Israel's behind all this.
[SPEAKER_04]: He wouldn't be like, well, what are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: And so we cash, but it's all right.
[SPEAKER_04]: They put their people on the internet, like all the people on the internet, like all the people on the internet.
[SPEAKER_11]: Panbonne is a coward.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: But the rest of the rest of the map.
[SPEAKER_11]: And like, let me, let me, let me ask you this.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you think
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you really honestly believe that Donald Trump thinks that some other countries getting something over on him and he's just gonna keep that quiet?
[SPEAKER_11]: Like just some a personality standpoint.
[SPEAKER_11]: Is that something that you can imagine how I don't believe that?
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean either.
[SPEAKER_11]: I cannot either.
[SPEAKER_11]: That seems even less believable than this bullshit story he's telling now.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it is something else then, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: So there are the Conan Doyle says what?
[SPEAKER_11]: After you get rid of everything that's impossible, whatever's left, no matter how we're improbable, that has to be the reality, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: We haven't gotten there yet.
[SPEAKER_13]: So Michael, what is your theory on what is going on?
[SPEAKER_04]: Every scenario I've thought of, I've been presented with does not add up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Same.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the very least, the part that doesn't, it's very easy to wrap my head around them all being threatened or they're all being flipped.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not easy to wrap my head around why you're doing it so late and why you're doing it so poorly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if I'm the if I controlling these four people I'm a sit them down and be like here's what we're gonna do Here's this here's the narrative here's how you stick to the script blah blah blah go and ever will come out you have a unified front.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's nice and shiny they sell it then you'd have some kind of distraction
[SPEAKER_04]: Some false flag or something over there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You don't let this happen.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's certainly wouldn't be what we've seen, which is over the last twelve months, six different stories with different timelines, different evidence, different opinions, different attitudes, and now all of a sudden you're just blaming the other side.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's not how you would condone.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the other thing is, I've heard that there's competing power centers, and that's why it's so sloppy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I can wrap my head around that two point, but it does.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, that's what happened with Combo and fucking Biden.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But it doesn't explain damn and cash.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like everything's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like what?
[SPEAKER_13]: I sell it to me.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know.
[SPEAKER_13]: I like it's sell it to me and just say, hey, we got together.
[SPEAKER_13]: And if you're Trump and let's say, behind the scenes with all this obscene shit, you're like, all right, great.
[SPEAKER_13]: Release all the shit because this is every fucking day now, all day long.
[SPEAKER_13]: I am in trying to miss.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: Tell Congress.
[SPEAKER_13]: Hey, dude, vote yes on this.
[SPEAKER_13]: We'll release what we have.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't ever have anything.
[SPEAKER_13]: But here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_13]: If it really was nothing,
[SPEAKER_13]: Any, you would just release whatever the fuck they were asking for yesterday and then move on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know why I think this is gonna go away?
[SPEAKER_04]: Why?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because the only time things don't go away still is when the corporate press hammer something every day.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember during the end of Bush W's presidency, every day in New York Times had like three dead and a rack, five dead and a rack, every single day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now the internet is at at eleven with this, but I think the internet thinks it's a lot more powerful than it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: The internet's powerful in and of itself.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I was just, I've been regular and gut felt in Fox.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I, we all come from podcast world.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that space is no one watches news anymore, everyone watches Rog and blah blah blah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I looked for myself and I said, how many of you watch Fox?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I learned in February was the biggest month ever.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we, I think, are in a circle, jerk, where we think, okay, internet put Trump into the White House, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_04]: The internet, I think is much more self-contained than people realize.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's spilling over a little bit to meet space, but not enough that we're going to be able to talk about this for six months.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we'll see.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, so to match that, remember the Twitter files to his point.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's exactly what happened with Twitter files.
[SPEAKER_13]: I thought that was going to change the world.
[SPEAKER_13]: I forgot about that.
[SPEAKER_13]: with the with your right shit in the footage and everything else and then at the time you had said to me you go hey dude and Rob Bob you'd also said this as well of like you guys are locked in because we're doing podcast every day we're constantly reading shit we're looking for things people don't get ninety percent of Americans don't read or care about the same shit we do hear the not know if that's true here in regards to the hair the buckets involved here right the buckets of people there are people who are
[SPEAKER_11]: I guess you could say perpetually online or in the podcast, independent media space, whether it's social media somewhere else, and on either side or in the middle, that's one group of people.
[SPEAKER_11]: Then there's another group of people who are casuals in that regard.
[SPEAKER_11]: They hear stuff here and there, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: They're on Twitter for sports, but they see the occasional political story and they still watch local news sometimes or whatever.
[SPEAKER_11]: They just don't, they can't be bothered to care about it.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then the largest bucket are people that have no soul, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: NPCs, non-player characters.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like dead internet theories suggest about sixty-five percent of the internet's fake.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think sixty-five percent of the actual world is fake.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_11]: There are people.
[SPEAKER_11]: The way Michael explains its interesting.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it's, tell him the fourth dimension thing.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's interesting to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, so you know, here's a great user app ahead around it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know how like if I do a drawing of you and you in a house, and I could say, where's Dan, there's Dan, and there was Dan the picture you bought in the picture.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was the house, the house, and the picture, where's the house in the picture?
[SPEAKER_04]: Where's the house in the real life?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the drawing of the house.
[SPEAKER_04]: So one theory I've heard is that this is like a crossing called it flatland.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a book.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this is like a three D downgrade about forty world and some people, which vibrate around us, we could see them.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're not up there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And to say about that, if I drew a house of you got and with you guys, the house in the paper, but it's not here at three D. So this is what I've talked about this before.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think that the the self.
[SPEAKER_11]: You're what you are, not the meat sack that you're walking around it, but whatever the Iowa or whatever the fuck native just call it, the spark, whatever you're going to call it, is a physical object in the fourth spatial dimension.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it is represented here on Earth in our meat sack, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: And I think most people don't have it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Drew, I have my show this week.
[SPEAKER_04]: He pointed out, I think it's thirty percent of people don't have an inner monologue.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thirty.
[SPEAKER_11]: They don't hear their own, they don't like, you know, you don't like see some like, I wonder what that is, but it's all in your head.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thirty percent of people don't have that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I had this conversation with my wife because she's able to walk around in the world and not think anything about this shit, right?
[SPEAKER_13]: And it got on my nerves to a point.
[SPEAKER_13]: She hosts a couple shows and on the show the shit however they're non-political so she doesn't have to talk about politics or Epstein or anything else right and she goes look at how worked up you are right now about the shit and she goes I the dumb dumb whom just walking around you know thinking about my kids or practice or the grocery store or gas or whatever it is like
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't think about any of this fucking shit.
[SPEAKER_13]: So like, therefore, I'm sleeping like a fucking baby.
[SPEAKER_13]: She goes, I'll be in bed by nine fifty nine tonight.
[SPEAKER_11]: But that's like a baby.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's not, that would be stressed out.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's not an NPC, though.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's somebody who has reached what every culture calls it something else.
[SPEAKER_11]: The Buddhists would call it Nirvana, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Or you can tune that out.
[SPEAKER_11]: But an NPC is a fucking worker being called on.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's sleeping like a baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's also living like one.
[SPEAKER_04]: because there's a ceiling to what she thinks about.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: And she, by the way, openly emits it on.
[SPEAKER_11]: She doesn't really hope so.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a difference.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: If you're able to do it on purpose, then you've reached some people calling enlightenment, some people calling Nirvana.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's like the Serenity Prayer.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so she's Serenia.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: God.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: The other thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's to change what I can and accept what I can.
[SPEAKER_04]: And accept what I can.
[SPEAKER_04]: The wisdom to know the difference.
[SPEAKER_13]: And she goes until it happens the next day or it's affecting my life and in my life personally today.
[SPEAKER_13]: I cannot focus on that because we are.
[SPEAKER_13]: We got three kids.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, me personally, yeah, but not her.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: Because she doesn't have to talk about it or anything else.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, she's also a woman and genetically speaking.
[SPEAKER_11]: They weren't really wired to care about that kind of shit historically.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_11]: They've like social sphere stuff taking care of the kids and managing the social sphere, the neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right, and having that hierarchy to deal with, that was, that's what women are particularly good at.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's why they're good at intelligence work, actually.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, she could tell you everything about the bleak life we can all day long.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's something else that's a point because we all remember in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, what do you even say to that?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, like, what impact is happening over your, like, he's the president.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, okay, do you have, do you have ulcer?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have agency?
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you have any agency?
[SPEAKER_11]: Do you have the ability to to choose how your, your own day is going to go?
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you lost the ability to laugh?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, when you read a good book, do you not feel joy anymore?
[SPEAKER_04]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_04]: But there's a lot of that.
[SPEAKER_11]: There is a lot of that.
[SPEAKER_11]: And so those are the buckets.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I think the biggest bucket that exists in my opinion or people that don't have the ability to involve themselves in this and they're the ones who they react in binary.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Whatever group they're associated with or if they're, yeah, or if they're a contrarian, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: That's that's kind of a third, I guess, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: But us.
[SPEAKER_11]: Good, then bad, and then contrary, it is like, well, everything is kind of bad until maybe you convince me to believe in one thing or another down the road.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's kind of how it works, and that's the largest group of people.
[SPEAKER_11]: And those people watch Fox News and CNN and MSNBC.
[SPEAKER_11]: They will always watch it, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: So right now to your point of life, lots and none of it.
[SPEAKER_11]: To your point about Fox, the average age of a Fox view where I think is sixty six.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, my joke was the average age of the deceased.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do much better in the young demographic than you would think.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's cut.
[SPEAKER_11]: So the middle demographic.
[SPEAKER_11]: Our age.
[SPEAKER_11]: None.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's so low.
[SPEAKER_11]: But then the six sixty into twenty four.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think it's the next one down.
[SPEAKER_11]: They big and that again.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is because twenty two to fifty four twenty four to fifty four is the big demo there.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's the one that has money.
[SPEAKER_11]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_11]: They don't watch Fox News.
[SPEAKER_13]: And they're averaging, I mean, two hundred fifty thousand a night.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's why if you go to Fox News and look at their advertising, it's reverse mortgages and gold and fucking P. M. McCulloch's watching commercials.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: It'll be Toby Keith's son American flags from the day.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sign American flags.
[SPEAKER_13]: We'll put a boot in your ass.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And they're still running the, uh, uh, what's, we're not eleven coins.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the thing is those people vote.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's a lot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every single one of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Every like a ninety percent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not ninety percent of our our viewers now, but in the problem.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, not even close ours barely.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think if they're really really worked up that means that everyone else is really really worked up and it's like your vote for someone if you're in eleven counts exactly the same as someone's vote if they're in a two.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: And the other thing I wanted to ask you personally because I don't read the comments.
[SPEAKER_13]: I want to I want to walk in a work somewhere in my life.
[SPEAKER_13]: I want to walk in work and just do my fucking job every day when I do read the comments and pissed off about it.
[SPEAKER_13]: However, I will read Patreon because people are paying.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then Twitter is getting the game.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_13]: And thank you.
[SPEAKER_13]: And so one of the things I'm struggling about is a podcast host and I want to ask you having a big show is are you hearing it from and it's not very many people, but it's it's starting to pick up a little bit of like dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: Can we just focus on the grocery prices in the gas and like, I can't hear about Epstein every day where you're going to Epstein out your audience because that's all everybody's talking about.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't look at the comments for specifically that reason because when I look at X, which is my biggest platform, it's false to Epstein.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like,
[SPEAKER_04]: I get that people are very upset what I disagree with is they've been led to believe that if you're really really upset powerful people are going to care a lot and to get to that point isn't really a thing I think remember this very vividly during the Iraq war where people were at eleven twenty four seven and they had reason people have been killed and look how long we're going to be here
[SPEAKER_11]: But the Democrats kept voting just as the Republicans did to authorize more money.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, nothing really happened there.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I don't think this Epstein thing may back could be wrong, but I would encourage me and Dan talk about it in his show today.
[SPEAKER_04]: The most important vote is how you live your life.
[SPEAKER_04]: And this idea that like if you're going to put so much of your mental health in terms of expecting Washington to do the right thing, you're doomed.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: And by the way, a hundred percent agree with that.
[SPEAKER_13]: And some of our listeners have a similar sentiment.
[SPEAKER_13]: And they were like, you know, gas prices are down.
[SPEAKER_13]: Food is down on this other shit.
[SPEAKER_13]: The thing that I'm most angry about.
[SPEAKER_13]: And this is outside of hosting.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: Is the Fed.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, you know, I think and I said this too.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like I don't I think drone power not only fucked over Biden for the last two years.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's fucking over Trump this year with not moving these rates.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know why and it seems back to Dan's point no matter who you vote for whatever like there's still gonna be a guy that's gonna fuck you over here and I don't know for the life of me why drone power is doing this and he's trending number one right now
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it is a good argument for decentralization that one man shouldn't have all that power as our friend Kanye West used to say.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, there you go, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: Song of the summer.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'll hell, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: Song of the summer, dude.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a banger.
[SPEAKER_13]: Do you want to hear it?
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a great masterpiece.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's his ringtone.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's why I had to turn his phone on.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have something in my house.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll show you where you come from.
[SPEAKER_04]: From the bunker.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh cool.
[SPEAKER_11]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: No way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, how a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_04]: I one of his books and my friend Blair, Brian, she rubbed her dick a lover it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Stop it.
[SPEAKER_13]: No fucking way.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you think that's worth now?
[SPEAKER_04]: I know what I paid for it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bought recently.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's ours.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I remember seeing that sale.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you bought one of those, but he means seeing that sale not a painting.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, no, there was one on eBay where there were so in books.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, it wasn't eBay.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_13]: I have to get this from Belgium.
[SPEAKER_13]: Mm.
[SPEAKER_13]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, because we were looking.
[SPEAKER_11]: They sold a bunch of the shit to build some museum.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, that right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's what it was.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: They sold like a couple of properties and a bunch of memorabilia and shit like that to build some new fucking memor or some new like museum over there.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, it's getting wild out there today sale on eBay was Billing McFarlane from Firefest.
[SPEAKER_13]: He sold all the IP for the phrase Firefest and everything else.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, it's a two hundred and fifty two thousand dollars is what the final sale number was today.
[SPEAKER_13]: And they get to do merch and everything else.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that's funny.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can probably make that back.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, also documentaries.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's a big auction that's happening tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to tell people back because I want to get out of here.
[SPEAKER_11]: You don't want to get sniped yet.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's really, really epic.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Let us know afterwards.
[SPEAKER_13]: That way, nobody does it.
[SPEAKER_13]: But yeah, as far as our listeners go, I hear you, I'm reading at least some of the things in Patreon and like, look, I hope not to talk about this all the fucking time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they're frustrated because the conversation isn't moving.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the frustration.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, it's moving worse.
[SPEAKER_13]: The guy that we voted for.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think I'm not I'm not going to stop talking about it, but I think you got to be, you know, if you're not in that
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's dope.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's dope as hell.
[SPEAKER_11]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I wonder if there's going to be if we're going to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a little bit of a habit.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, like we've got the people that are actually capable of having discussions and leading other people because people do need to be led as we've mentioned most people don't even have souls, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: So people need to be led to some degree and the way you live your life is the best way to live.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Anybody that has children knows this.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can say blah, blah, blah, whatever you want, but what you do is what they copy.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's just a fucking fact, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And the way you live your life is a big part of that, but people that have discussions about this stuff have to be able to walk and chew down the same time.
[SPEAKER_11]: Trump is the best foreign policy president we have had in this country in a thousand years.
[SPEAKER_11]: I don't even know who the last guy would be.
[SPEAKER_11]: The only people that you could credit better than him would be people that had big land purchases or something like that, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: People that expanded the actual country itself.
[SPEAKER_11]: You couldn't, like the actual foreign policy decisions consider in the climate that Trump has made and how they've worked out are a elite.
[SPEAKER_11]: You couldn't say this about any leader of any country.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say one thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: That quote about walking chewing gum.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's ironic you say that about voters.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what the origin of that quote is?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody said that about President Gerald Ford.
[SPEAKER_04]: They said he can't walk and fart at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: You fart and chew gum at the same time.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That might be accurate.
[SPEAKER_11]: He was like, he was a fucking running back when they're helmets were made out of leather.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was good.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do that CT.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the central problem of democracy is that those who need leaders are qualified to choose them.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the problem.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you need a leader, you don't have the capacity to figure out who's going to be bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it's a vacuum in nature of horrors, so the fucking, the phrase that I always use is that people that desire power very, very, very disservice and people that deserve it very, very, very desired.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Even amongst the smaller bucket of people who are competent.
[SPEAKER_11]: users of the people who are competent but good people don't even consider I should have control over that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But also why would you put your family through campaign?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh god, I don't know and look, I know.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's why Shapiro doesn't want to run for president.
[SPEAKER_04]: But one hundred percent of people in America think either Trump or Biden is a pedophile.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, what are them?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, why would you put... Or both?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or both.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why would you put yourself through them?
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know Michelle Obama was caught on those hot mics and we've talked about this in the show over the years where she was just like, I fucking hate this so much.
[SPEAKER_13]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got leaped on Fox last week.
[SPEAKER_04]: on a gut felt because I said Michelle Obama and I have one thing in common and you can sum it up in three words big dick energy.
[SPEAKER_10]: I was so proud of that.
[SPEAKER_13]: But if you ask me today of what I care about the most right now, going back to those listeners, if it was firing drone pal and lowering these interest rates under five for the first time in fucking forever, because it's starting to fuck with personal life business and everything else, versus give me the absteen list, give me the fucking head of drone pal.
[SPEAKER_13]: That is what it would actually affect my life.
[SPEAKER_04]: I bet you something even more about that, which is give me world peace.
[SPEAKER_04]: Stop the fucking gores figure something out.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, but I don't think that will never be on the table.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm saying these are big ones.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think are on the table.
[SPEAKER_04]: You create an in Israel are on the and around.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think those are on the table.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, yes, but
[SPEAKER_04]: And once that happens, the interest rates are good.
[SPEAKER_11]: So Trump is about to make or has now made the biggest move that he's capable.
[SPEAKER_11]: So a lot of people, I posted a tweet the other day.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was like, here are some things that Maga said in twenty four that aren't true any longer.
[SPEAKER_11]: Twenty five.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm the busbills is one of them.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now they're good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a beautiful.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's the same acronym.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a big build back better and big beautiful bill.
[SPEAKER_11]: You think that's a fucking coincidence folks.
[SPEAKER_11]: One of the things that people kept chiming in about was Ukraine.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like, I don't care if we sell weapons to NATO and then NATO gives them the Ukraine.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm gonna fuck about that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Why would I care?
[SPEAKER_11]: We make money.
[SPEAKER_11]: America makes money under the day what I what I don't want is the threat of American involvement what I don't want is this giving them free shit right those are the two I don't we weren't talking about
[SPEAKER_11]: selling weapons to Ukraine before nobody cared about that you've shifted it now because you want to be a contrarian that's not a real complaint in my opinion right me either yeah we're making money off a business transaction and if you want to stay in wars for fucking ten years yeah great do selling a shit yeah do whatever you want but it also was it was also leveraged for trump to force native to finally do that's right what that's like what's supposed to do was pay spent five percent on on that's a period so he's he's now taken the strongest move
[SPEAKER_11]: possible with Russia, in my opinion, which is twofold.
[SPEAKER_11]: One, it is the crippling set as a tariff that we're going to apply to them, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: It's in fifty days or forty eight days now.
[SPEAKER_11]: If they don't comply and stop this nonsense, and the second one is the secondary tariff, which means, oh, hey, Belarus, if you work with Russia, you've got a five hundred percent tariff.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, any, if you, Iran, if you sell oil to Russia, then you've got a five hundred percent tear.
[SPEAKER_11]: Fuck you, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Now you isolate them.
[SPEAKER_11]: Russia wants to do some things, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: And fair enough, they're a country.
[SPEAKER_11]: Do what you want, I guess.
[SPEAKER_11]: But they're consequences.
[SPEAKER_11]: And these are the consequences.
[SPEAKER_11]: And Trump is going to be able to leverage the situation without ever firing a single bullet.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_12]: Hopefully.
[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_12]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_11]: Brushes economy can't take this.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm telling you.
[SPEAKER_11]: There are economy and China's economy is in very bad shape right now.
[SPEAKER_13]: I would have said it, but we're heading on four years now.
[SPEAKER_11]: Four.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Israel's up to what?
[SPEAKER_13]: Two.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, October, seven to the second.
[SPEAKER_11]: So how many people are in Russia and what's their GDP and then do the same for Ukraine?
[SPEAKER_11]: And we'll show you why it's lasted four years because Russia has also been stealing people for North Korea from Belarus from Chechnya.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's done among them and those people in jail when they throw out people in jail on the front line and they made them a deal.
[SPEAKER_11]: You can go you go free if you let if you can survive a year on the front line you get to go free.
[SPEAKER_13]: You have to spend one year on the front line Russia said this all the prison.
[SPEAKER_11]: But there's a three.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are gonna have World War three.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have the world's biggest prison populations.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, let those fucking grimy bastards out dude and let them go just a bunch of fucking dudes on meth Yeah, but she's a bunch of Gary's an army of Gary's but they don't have to sleep
[SPEAKER_11]: I know, but it's like a plot.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's why the Nazis invented meth in the front.
[SPEAKER_11]: I was going to say, yeah, we had the rest.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I was going to say, didn't Hitler, wasn't he doing meth?
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, it was he was, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Shopping rounds.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, he is.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thank there's some some reports suggest he was doing like three to five grams of meth.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they have his doctors reports, he was getting injected with crazy shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, like a lot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that explains operation by Perusso when you're in a crazy position.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like, hey, you know what we should do.
[SPEAKER_11]: We should invade everybody.
[SPEAKER_11]: Everybody, all the same time.
[SPEAKER_11]: And Siberia and the winter.
[SPEAKER_11]: You guys in?
[SPEAKER_11]: They're like, no.
[SPEAKER_11]: No one on in.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's like, fuck that.
[SPEAKER_11]: His doctor's like, we're doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're doing it.
[SPEAKER_11]: What's the population of Russia?
[SPEAKER_02]: Russia's like over a hundred million.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ukraine's about forty million.
[SPEAKER_11]: And Russian GDP.
[SPEAKER_02]: Russian GDP, so Russia's a hundred forty three million.
[SPEAKER_02]: Russian GDP is a two trillion.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ukraine GDP is like a hundred and seventy billion to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_11]: Twenty, twenty times larger economically.
[SPEAKER_11]: Holy shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: And they've only been able to achieve a stalemate over four years, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: That's what's really happened.
[SPEAKER_11]: And now, of course, Ukraine has benefited from us and less so from NATO, but if we backed out of it, it would be over for them.
[SPEAKER_11]: We should, this is what we should have done all along.
[SPEAKER_11]: And Biden was his two.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's retarded, but we should have treated, we should have empowered NATO to treat Ukraine like we treated Europe during World War II.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Give them, we were selling weapons, landliest bullshit to Britain, which eventually dragged us into the war, whatever.
[SPEAKER_11]: But we were selling weapons to Britain and making a fuck ton of money.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is how we became a superpower, by the way.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is literally how we became a superpower on our, in the only superpower on Earth.
[SPEAKER_11]: after a while.
[SPEAKER_11]: We should have immediately started selling weapons to NATO to give to Ukraine, making money, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Not just weapons but supplies as well.
[SPEAKER_11]: And that would have fucking this thing would probably have been over by now, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: Because Europe would have wanted it to be over.
[SPEAKER_11]: and then Europe would have had some level of I guess the same kind of economic power we had over Europe for a long time to build that into a new economy because the best insulation against communist bullshit is fucking economic success right nobody's going back to that after they start making money look at germans look at Poland like they were like fuck that we're making money
[SPEAKER_11]: Even Poland over the last twenty years went from an impoverished country where Polish immigrants were basically behaving like Mexicans into America, coming and doing illegal labor in Germany, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: And then that's done.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like polling is doing quite well now.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is something that we should have done a long time ago.
[SPEAKER_11]: We should have taken the Marshall Plan and backed up, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: This is what you do.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's multi-low marketing, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: I've succeeded this now and I was the boss.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now I'm going to be, now I'm going to franchise.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm going to be the boss of NATO and have them do what I did back in the day because it clearly fucking works.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then I'll say you might claim, listen, I have to leave.
[SPEAKER_13]: But this is a problem.
[SPEAKER_11]: This is a problem that people who do not understand our history are in charge of our future.
[SPEAKER_11]: That this is a big fucking problem with us, right?
[SPEAKER_11]: None of these assholes and Washington know shit about American history and military history, economic history.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're fucking lawyers.
[SPEAKER_11]: They don't know anything.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'll ask you just a long time.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm a long-term guest here.
[SPEAKER_13]: Do you think we achieve peace with between Russia and Ukraine?
[SPEAKER_13]: Iran and Israel, it seems like that's already headed that way.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's also rising.
[SPEAKER_13]: It is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Iran was really in a position to escalate and the fact that they, and Israel did them dirty because at the end, Israel's like hitting him really hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the fact they sat in their hands like, way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all the other Arab countries were in a position to be like, fuck Israel, and they're like, no, that press release, like, oh, it's a shame what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_04]: They don't care.
[SPEAKER_13]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: So things are in a position to actually, and somewhat peacefully, I hope it looks like it.
[SPEAKER_13]: Now, I don't know what's going to happen with Israel and Gaza, because there's still hostages involved in this shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't just talk about that in his shell.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you were.
[SPEAKER_11]: There's nobody knows what's going on.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, no, we do know.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, yeah, so the French, are we talked about it yesterday?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the French are letting them all in.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to take them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take off the job put in a barrage.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's going to be a who smells worst content.
[SPEAKER_11]: Holy shit dude.
[SPEAKER_11]: I got to invite some Indians in next.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm not going to take over.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're going to take over.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're going to take over.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're going to take over.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're going to take over.
[SPEAKER_11]: They're going to take over.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're going to take over.
[SPEAKER_13]: They're going to take over
[SPEAKER_13]: And then women are afraid to be hairy too.
[SPEAKER_13]: So like that adds to it as well.
[SPEAKER_13]: But the hot ones care.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_13]: I feel like it's like that around the world.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like the hot ones care everywhere.
[SPEAKER_13]: Where it's like a rate from Han.
[SPEAKER_13]: Cool if I'm not.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm a way, I'm a six and the only thing I'm going to try.
[SPEAKER_04]: I haven't traveled that much, but my interests, I would guess that in the poor countries they do care because all they can compete on is at least they're good looking.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Poor people often take real good pride in their homes because I might not have much, but at least it's clean.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the other way goes I don't have a poor and I look like shit.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, they took they take pride in their homes and they take pride in what you call it being night and not nice is not the right welcoming welcoming.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, yeah, it's like if you go this is true everywhere I went in Iraq
[SPEAKER_11]: Even though you're an invader in their country, it is their honor bounds to invite you into their home and make you food.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like if I say, hey, I need to talk to you for a minute, the man is like, hey, yeah, come on, ever your whole guy is all you guys come on in.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_11]: Woman go fucking make some food.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's the standard there.
[SPEAKER_11]: Even though they fucking hate us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_11]: So imagine how they are with people they actually like.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_13]: But you think the Russia Ukraine things get in?
[SPEAKER_04]: I think, okay, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I talk to this yesterday with Emily Judsonski.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, I'm from Russia, I've, I've Russian of bropringing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Putin is really, really smart, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: So when Trump is on TV talking all the time, like I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm gonna get peace, I'm
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: He is a Slavic fucking genius.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he's not trying to find the balls.
[SPEAKER_11]: And he's a killer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like literally.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: So Trump should change the language.
[SPEAKER_11]: But like we're going to defeat Russia.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like they respect fuck it's dude culture everywhere in the world except for here for some reason.
[SPEAKER_11]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's absolutely right.
[SPEAKER_11]: Like you've got to you have to I've talked about this a lot of times before in Middle East.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like that too.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sometimes you got to literally slap a dude in the face.
[SPEAKER_11]: To give him permission culturally to start talking to you.
[SPEAKER_04]: I gave a talk for Peterson Academy, and there's a Q&A after.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's really good.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: I really appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I worked really hard on it.
[SPEAKER_04]: This wasn't filmed.
[SPEAKER_04]: One of the guys in the audience is like, my girlfriend's Russian, you know, how do I treat her, like, but she treated me like shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: This sounds like a punchline, like, I'm Bernie Mac, and I go, I'm not kidding.
[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, you've got to grab her by the back to the neck.
[SPEAKER_04]: and you gotta get in your face and you go, okay, we can have a conversation with the shit stuff's now.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a tough guy, I'm not a bad ass, but I'm saying unless you do that with her, it's a bitch test.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a twenty four seven.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's gonna keep pushing until she complete railroads you and unless you physically put a stop to it, I'm gonna say, be the shit out of her, but put your hand on her.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not in any way it's gonna be in trouble with the law.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all the sudden she realized, oh, I'm talking to her man.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it really is that.
[SPEAKER_11]: So it's like a type woman is trying to see what your limit is.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it is her test to see if you can actually protect her or not.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Or if you're even willing to, which is the biggest problem in the West now, because dudes aren't willing, they're Sigma males, as they call themselves now, which is a completely misunderstanding or a complete misunderstanding of what that word means.
[SPEAKER_11]: The Sigma male is the man in the arena.
[SPEAKER_11]: Stay there and sing what he thinks and not give it a fuck what anybody thinks I got call like there's a meme about me being the sick of it you are actually are real like an actually sick of a male but a fake sick of a male is a guy's like oh women have to value some just gonna jack off and play video that's not a no that's a fucking fake it Yeah, that's not a that's not a sick of a male that is a fucking loser
[SPEAKER_11]: That's the same guy in high school, thirty fucking years ago, for you Ross, it was like five years ago for me, but the same, the same dude in high school, who was just a fucking loser, was like, oh that girl's a fucking lesbian man, like, no she's dying.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: You're a loser.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's like, that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then last but not least here before we get out of here, Trump's latest suite is, I've been speaking at Coca-Cola about using real cane sugar in Coke in the United States.
[SPEAKER_13]: And they have agreed to do so.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'd like to thank all of those in authority at Coca-Cola to be a very good move by them.
[SPEAKER_13]: You'll see it's just better.
[SPEAKER_13]: We use cane sugar and hearty F. He's not wrong.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, Mexican Coke is bad.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, Mexican Coke is bad.
[SPEAKER_13]: To follow up and Mexican Coke is now trending.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, of course it is because they're done.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Max and Coke is over.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like maybe it tastes this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's you're all going to go.
[SPEAKER_11]: I've got something.
[SPEAKER_11]: We've got something.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're doing a fucking sugar cane Coke contest on my point is there's this insane idea online for some stupid people that sugar is a lot better for you than corn syrup.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not that much better for you than corn syrup.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I want to say.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, you can, well, I can say this on the alcohol side.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can distill down a corn syrup, just down to nothing.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's cheaper than everything else than the cane sugar.
[SPEAKER_13]: And you could make that whatever you wanted to.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's just that name that's attached to it.
[SPEAKER_13]: It depends on how much you distill.
[SPEAKER_13]: Sure, of course.
[SPEAKER_13]: If you don't distill it, obviously it's going to be horrific for you.
[SPEAKER_11]: But over time it's better to put things that are natural into your body.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's fair too.
[SPEAKER_04]: But this idea that like Coke with sugar is healthy is crazy.
[SPEAKER_11]: No, no, no, drinking uh, uh, forty grams of sugar is not smart.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not worth it.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's not worth it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not worth it.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_13]: It seems like he's been fighting on this all this shit for a long time.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is fired a lot of people today this morning.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the reason high fructose corn syrup such a big deal is because of the corn subsidies.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, like cut those out then you don't have this problem.
[SPEAKER_13]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The new book.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the comitting.com.
[SPEAKER_11]: On sick of winning.com, it's about Trump's first hundred days.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yes, sir.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, bye that now.
[SPEAKER_13]: Go ahead and buy that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Now's the point of show we get to the there it is right there.
[SPEAKER_13]: Thank you guys.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that'll be there shit Amazon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, what's the route now?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's low.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was after the STC.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know the right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Please, I'm not kidding.
[SPEAKER_04]: Don't tell me the right.
[SPEAKER_13]: After the STC, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_13]: The first hundred days were awesome.
[SPEAKER_13]: None of us were sick of winning then.
[SPEAKER_04]: And now the sequel, not as good as the original.
[SPEAKER_13]: It looks like the early is.
[SPEAKER_11]: The absteen hundred days, because this is Godfather II.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's why it was better than the original.
[SPEAKER_11]: I can't, what else?
[SPEAKER_11]: There's, there's a couple.
[SPEAKER_11]: Not many.
[SPEAKER_11]: Not many, but that's the only one I could think of.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah, Aliens.
[SPEAKER_11]: Actually, he's Terminator.
[SPEAKER_13]: Terminator.
[SPEAKER_13]: Rocky, too.
[SPEAKER_13]: I like it better than Rocky won.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Rocky, which was with Drogo?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the best one.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's four.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, four.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's my favorite two endpoints.
[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's my favorite two endpoints.
[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, that's my far.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's a quite a way better movie, yes.
[SPEAKER_11]: Hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: I actually thought Trond Legacy was better than the original Trond.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't think I've seen that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm going under a movie anyways.
[SPEAKER_13]: But now's the one that show we get to the drinking bro of the week.
[SPEAKER_13]: You can submit it drinking bros.com or on the app.
[SPEAKER_13]: The app is free.
[SPEAKER_13]: Dan and I pay for it and there's a wall that's.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's not free if we pay for it.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, you guys are stealing from us.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, there was two guys that were like, oh, you take our data.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm too fucking dumb to even know what to do with that if I could.
[SPEAKER_13]: I have no idea what that is.
[SPEAKER_13]: But it's on Android iPhones and the news have changed and I want to commend people on there.
[SPEAKER_13]: So it's exactly like Facebook, old school, where you can post whatever you want, and we now have a thirty-second video, so people are posting wild news, and them fucking their wives, and strangers, and all the other stuff, which we love.
[SPEAKER_13]: Obviously, no underage, and I was spending the only rule, we don't delete anybody at all.
[SPEAKER_13]: And no fat chicks.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_13]: Like somebody had a fat chick on the other day.
[SPEAKER_04]: We don't rally around it, I was like, oh, that's fucking the other day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Some people are into it.
[SPEAKER_11]: We have some Mexicans.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: This one, Maxine was fucking this faculty all the other day on there.
[SPEAKER_13]: And he was just like, there's one in the building, right?
[SPEAKER_13]: This is the, we got a, we got a, we got a dipper.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's called in Guardita.
[SPEAKER_11]: Oh, a dipper back there.
[SPEAKER_11]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_11]: He's up there.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, but you can submit for drink a bro of the week, uh, the in there or drink a bro's dot com, uh, the merch we should talk about at the top of the show, bro boxes going to be fucking dope as shit this month.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, the current bro box that's out.
[SPEAKER_13]: That umbrella is really huge.
[SPEAKER_13]: So we had to ship the other things separately.
[SPEAKER_13]: So just know that's, they'll come in two different boxes.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then obviously we get all the fun merch and all the other stuff that those cups are almost outs.
[SPEAKER_11]: I really like that don't shirt.
[SPEAKER_13]: Right now those are some of my favorites as well.
[SPEAKER_11]: Click that don't shirt.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah click click that real quick.
[SPEAKER_13]: However, we would like to see your smiling faces in this studio.
[SPEAKER_13]: We do leave the doors open to you.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then you guys can come in a booze all day for free and then come up and give drink a bro the week.
[SPEAKER_13]: Who's back there that wants to come up and give a drink a bro the week back there?
[SPEAKER_13]: Are you guys allowed to first of all?
[SPEAKER_13]: We got a hand the white no, he can't the white the white can't no, he's already been on already been on the last week was it last week was last week?
[SPEAKER_13]: I would have called him by the dip, but man, I missed out on an opportunity.
[SPEAKER_13]: So I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_13]: All right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, then we'll go to fucking Gmail where this is emailed to his live on air here.
[SPEAKER_13]: Let me pull it up
[SPEAKER_13]: And some of you guys are so fucking fast.
[SPEAKER_11]: We get some weird ones.
[SPEAKER_11]: Michael, we've had to have people start letting us know if the person is still living or not, but we'll start saying a bunch of fucked out of it.
[SPEAKER_11]: And then it's like, oh no.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like when they got Rachel Dollazelty and then came out.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, the per capita.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, she's doing only fans, all right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't want to see you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, that voice goes up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not as bad.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not a big show.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's almost always only fans is that she's always faking it.
[SPEAKER_13]: True.
[SPEAKER_13]: True, but she is.
[SPEAKER_13]: How can you trust her?
[SPEAKER_13]: She has grown in black dudes on there.
[SPEAKER_13]: So she is.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, you're you're going to find some stuff.
[SPEAKER_13]: And I'm feeling you might not be disappointed.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we have different definitions that word.
[SPEAKER_13]: She's got a fat ass.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: I was shocked.
[SPEAKER_13]: This drink and roasted mission here is Tommy, uh, Giovarelli.
[SPEAKER_13]: You'd be more Italian than that.
[SPEAKER_13]: Florida.
[SPEAKER_13]: Listener since twenty.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's a green.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, exactly right.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, he's not been in Brett Davidson deceased.
[SPEAKER_13]: Thank you for putting that before we went all in on him.
[SPEAKER_13]: Cheers to Brett Davidson dedicated tack.
[SPEAKER_13]: P senior non commission officer.
[SPEAKER_13]: The best I've ever worked with in fourteen years of service.
[SPEAKER_13]: He was respected fair and firm like my fucking dick Ross.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, great.
[SPEAKER_11]: You said that in the tribute to your dead friend.
[SPEAKER_11]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: I want to be clear.
[SPEAKER_13]: I did not say that.
[SPEAKER_13]: you wrote that in there and attribute to your dead body.
[SPEAKER_13]: Which is appropriate.
[SPEAKER_11]: He was attacked to you, which is just a job.
[SPEAKER_13]: I miss him every day.
[SPEAKER_13]: Cheers.
[SPEAKER_13]: You got damn cons.
[SPEAKER_13]: Mentor everyone endorsed a few death on call air to mud.
[SPEAKER_13]: And that is attributed to Tommy.
[SPEAKER_13]: So yeah, cheers.
[SPEAKER_13]: And sorry.
[SPEAKER_13]: And also for you guys, I understand why you can't come on.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, I blow up your fucking life over this goddamn show for Christ six.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've asked you myself that very question.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_11]: I would, I would pay to being that studio audience.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, it would, I mean, this is an ironic choice of words, but it would get ugly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's already fucking brutal.
[SPEAKER_04]: I actually friends with Megan, and she tells me a lot of shit about that show, and it's even worse than people think.
[SPEAKER_13]: Megan, Kelly, McCain.
[SPEAKER_04]: McCain.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, McCain.
[SPEAKER_04]: No shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Really.
[SPEAKER_13]: I can only imagine behind the scenes.
[SPEAKER_13]: I already didn't even talk to each other.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's like, it's like the Beatles towards the end.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I read a book about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's an oral history of the, everyone talked about, talked on record.
[SPEAKER_04]: And one of the, the co-founder EP, some big shot in the show, he says, people need to appreciate their Rosio Donald is a severely mentally ill woman whose skill is passing his normal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And as soon as he said it all makes sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think we all, people, well, now it's obvious.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_11]: Now that she has no editors, it's obvious to us throughout the world.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, she's a lunatic and see that point, by the way, I don't think.
[SPEAKER_13]: Talk shows in the afternoon will exist in three to five years late in five.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's really short late night TV will not exist as far as Colbert Kimmel.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think it wasn't Bitcoin.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'd say what they just they just dropped.
[SPEAKER_13]: The show after Colbert now so this is the first time in CBS history.
[SPEAKER_13]: They will not have lately correct a late show anymore so that is done.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes, the head of ABC for Kimmel said his contract is up in twenty six.
[SPEAKER_13]: What are you guys going to do and they're said we're considering all options.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, sure.
[SPEAKER_11]: But they also cancel one of the shows.
[SPEAKER_11]: That was on CBS.
[SPEAKER_11]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, the other ones too, looking at these ratings.
[SPEAKER_13]: So CNN, um, and I said this would happen in sixty days.
[SPEAKER_13]: Uh, Anderson Cooper will be fired.
[SPEAKER_13]: That will be it.
[SPEAKER_13]: He will be done because the salary is too high.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not because they were.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's in a fire that we were at a point at CNN.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're adding to Cooper's the alpha.
[SPEAKER_13]: He's the only one.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's the alpha male Anderson fucking group.
[SPEAKER_13]: But if you watch it, but if you watch CNN, exactly.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I guess he's.
[SPEAKER_13]: But if you watch CNN,
[SPEAKER_11]: They're the most unfamous people of all time now because they can't afford it so like that job is like eighty five now you sure if you if you if you if you're a journalist you can be famous if you're somebody who recites the news right that's not
[SPEAKER_11]: worthy of fame just shut you do you I shouldn't know what you think totally just read the fucking so you know here's there won't be a call bear I don't I don't I don't think there will be here's the problem they make fifteen twenty five million dollars a year right yeah making bank no no I mean foxes right now the old people will see how the young crowd comes in right they age into it they may be able to pursue see your point if you think about it just add the years to the age group like they're not only within five years at the most of them
[SPEAKER_13]: No, most of them average male average lifetime expectancy is only seventy four so it's like a shirt really?
[SPEAKER_13]: That's it for women.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's no it's it's higher now.
[SPEAKER_11]: I think it's seventy seven eighty eighty two now.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but but just looking at the ratings and again just looking at their ratings even foxes high is show it at nights in prime time is is only like three yeah two point eight five three million
[SPEAKER_04]: three million only three million.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that's I mean come on.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's not does a huge thing if you compare it to podcasts like look what Megan's Kelly is doing look at what can to someone's is doing online.
[SPEAKER_13]: Those numbers dwarf them and it'll all be replaced soon enough depends but see it is already spent spending off now and into a company called spinco so it's going to be an out
[SPEAKER_11]: So just the way that advertising works and how you write it off on your taxes, when you're a large corporation, Toyota and Ford are not going to advertise on Megan Kelly's show or on Joe Robin's show.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's not happening.
[SPEAKER_11]: So there's like Coke isn't all these companies that have billions of dollars in revenue and spend tens or hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising are going to continue going to cable because they have standards of practices.
[SPEAKER_11]: And it's also a credit issue.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, and so and as of yesterday, by the way, they released the ratings for the first time ever.
[SPEAKER_13]: So now regular TV viewing, just regular normal TV is twenty percent of what's people are watching.
[SPEAKER_13]: So everybody's watching streaming as far as a Netflix or an Amazon or who a little whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know Jim John Oliver.
[SPEAKER_04]: His clips.
[SPEAKER_04]: get like fifty times the views.
[SPEAKER_04]: His showed up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: So maybe people aren't watching Colbert, but they're watching, they're sharing those Colbert clips.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but John Oliver makes so much less than like a Hannity.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: That if you want to switch.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, positive.
[SPEAKER_13]: And if you want to pay that much.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, and if you want to switch.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Surprisingly.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, but if you want to switch to an HBO or something like that, I think that's where your next life is for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: John Oliver's annual salary is thirty million.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's about Hannity?
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm surprised by John Oliver's sound.
[SPEAKER_13]: No way.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm surprised by John Oliver's sound.
[SPEAKER_13]: No way.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm surprised by John Oliver's sound.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm surprised by John Oliver's sound.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm surprised by John Oliver's sound.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm surprised by John Oliver's sound.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm surprised by John Oliver's sound.
[SPEAKER_11]: I'm
[SPEAKER_11]: This would be a natural return.
[SPEAKER_11]: The conservative mouthpiece is didn't get famous on cable.
[SPEAKER_11]: It was an AM radio.
[SPEAKER_13]: This by the way, Bob, that deal was finalized in twenty twenty three.
[SPEAKER_13]: So that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_13]: Whoever got in a camel also get on that deal as well in twenty twenty three.
[SPEAKER_13]: So like everybody's trying to take the last paycheck they can.
[SPEAKER_13]: So I understand it, but no, how do you pay for that?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like a cold color daddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what he looks to be forty five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_13]: God damn it.
[SPEAKER_13]: How do you afford that?
[SPEAKER_13]: What's your advertiser?
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, they're gonna afford it because they push Tucker out.
[SPEAKER_11]: Who is their second highest error?
[SPEAKER_11]: That helps.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, but when your ratings are only three to four million, you have to charge your advertisers a half a million dollars for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: They know what they're clearly they're figuring it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: The math doesn't add for us, but it's adding it for them somehow.
[SPEAKER_13]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_13]: They might be sliding them over to YouTube for the clips and then monetizing the commercials off of those clips.
[SPEAKER_11]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_13]: Potentially.
[SPEAKER_11]: So the value of I think it'll all be going on on television the value of one advertisement a thirty second not a full minute advertising which would be a twenty five cpm at three million is seventy five thousand dollars per thirty seconds
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay, that's a lot.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I just don't know.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's that's a hundred fifty thousand dollars per minute of advertising and there is what eight and a half minutes of advertising I think or seven and a half depends on the show and I think that's roughly ours as well.
[SPEAKER_11]: It's eight and a half.
[SPEAKER_11]: So what's a hundred fifty thousand times eight and a half.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's that one two million.
[SPEAKER_11]: Eight hundred one two eight hundred dollars plus one point two four.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, one two seven.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, every show for show tonight.
[SPEAKER_04]: That means he's making ten million a week for them because it's seven days.
[SPEAKER_04]: They repeat our weekends.
[SPEAKER_11]: I thought you would feed all the air twice and he airs it like you said everything was and again immediately right the second play would get half that amount sure so it's one point you said one point two seven one point eight of a night so one point eight of night that adds up fast yeah now you got a big staff and shit like that but you can always cut back on staff and I think that's that's not that big that they have three shows in a row that each get three million right have you noticed just he waters trying to change
[SPEAKER_13]: the way that he's doing it because he had Tommy Lairon on and I thought that was an interesting choice of trying to bring in maybe a hot female too.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's been a flow.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's been a Fox contributor for years.
[SPEAKER_13]: Totally.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then they fired her.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, they put on Fox Nation.
[SPEAKER_13]: But the place fired her.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then they brought her back.
[SPEAKER_13]: I think Fox fired her first.
[SPEAKER_13]: If I'm not mistaken.
[SPEAKER_13]: And then she got brought back.
[SPEAKER_13]: Or maybe she left and went to the blaze.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Potentially.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I hired her to shoot them.
[SPEAKER_13]: I find it interesting that you're starting to toss in women because you know who they're doing the best has got felt.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's a whole different format and like that is revolutionized what that's not big.
[SPEAKER_13]: But what is that stuff just out of care?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's gonna have a three or four writers at most.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have it's gonna be like ten twelve people max.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's a great format because it's a small it's not a complicated show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I think you're gonna have to start going to things like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Based on these numbers, Hannity Show and Jesse Show and who's, I don't know who else, but let's just say those two, they're making twelve and a half million dollars a week on advertising.
[SPEAKER_11]: Twelve and a half million times fifty because they take two weeks off of you or anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: But they still run the ads.
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, they still run it on repeats of stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, there's a fuckload of money.
[SPEAKER_13]: And real quick, I'm going to piss you guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's just those three.
[SPEAKER_04]: Daytime they do well too.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Box, box business, sorry.
[SPEAKER_13]: I know, the business is fine.
[SPEAKER_13]: The five does well, by the way, that they're afternoon showed as well.
[SPEAKER_13]: But again, same format has got felt.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's six hundred and thirty million dollars for each one of those shows are six somewhere between six thirty and six fifty million per year in ad revenue.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: It's a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_13]: But it's not a lot of eyeballs.
[SPEAKER_13]: So I don't know how to that.
[SPEAKER_11]: Well, that's just math.
[SPEAKER_11]: Twenty five dollars CPM to twelve and a half on a repeat.
[SPEAKER_11]: That's a standard industry stand even for a fucking to be honest, they can go higher for branding deals if it's like a big new product if it's a new Ford truck.
[SPEAKER_11]: They fold that into the cost of the truck and then they write it off on their taxes for dozens of the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know right Fox can probably charge even more because you know the demographic so specific.
[SPEAKER_13]: All you can do is buy those nine eleven coins from Toby Keith's doing the commercial breaks and you're good.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's how we make sure we never forget exactly and then to piss you guys off to end this this is for Bob and Delico for drinking bro sports their levels.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh, I know
[SPEAKER_13]: Dave Portnoi has been added to the big noon kickoff show on Fox, which is an Ohio State fan if I couldn't hate big noon kickoff anymore.
[SPEAKER_13]: Congratulations, you did it.
[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I just don't.
[SPEAKER_14]: I have no opinions on Dave Portnoi.
[SPEAKER_13]: Really?
[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_13]: that he's going to be on TV and he's going to be on the big noon kickoff.
[SPEAKER_14]: I just have no opinions of him.
[SPEAKER_13]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really want those shows to be honest.
[SPEAKER_13]: Any of them?
[SPEAKER_13]: No.
[SPEAKER_13]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_13]: Um, somebody else brought that up to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't, they don't tell me anything I don't know.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's our job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: I fucking gamble better for Christ's sick, so yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: But I was a shocker to me, so here we go.
[SPEAKER_13]: Thanks for being here, Michael, I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was always such a blast.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, come back anytime and thanks for tuning in on a day and a day out basis, yes, I'll read all the Patreon.
[SPEAKER_13]: Shit all day long and we'll try not to absteen you out here.
[SPEAKER_13]: Speak for yourself.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I'm not gonna stop No, I I know you won't but one of us has to for Christ sex.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, so we're gonna live inside that guy's skin Go to iTunes right to show a five-starly quick review.
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know about a Spotify just a five-star and you can walk away and then fake Ryan is busy putting up the back had a log of Spotify
[SPEAKER_13]: Sign the entire network over there on a video deal and the other shows will follow after drinking bros back catalogue is put up just keep in mind it's over two thousand episodes so it's a long it's a long time he says he's up to five fifty as of yesterday so not bad in a month for him but what a weird life have you ever seen Logan's run
[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's an old Michael York movie Michael York was Austin Powers version of Q basically when you turn thirty the jewel in your hand goes from clear to red and you got to go So that's how I feel about fake Ryan as soon as these uploads are done I'm gonna murder
[SPEAKER_11]: And call it a day.
[SPEAKER_13]: We'll never ban.
[SPEAKER_13]: No, no, we won't.
[SPEAKER_13]: For the end of the day of the day, I thought that throw that camera on Michael Malice there just so we can see his shame.
[SPEAKER_13]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm Ross Fatterson.
[SPEAKER_13]: This is Drinking Bro's podcast.
[SPEAKER_13]: Good night everyone.
[UNKNOWN]: you