[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome everyone to SI Media with Jimmy Trayna.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's the middle of summer, but football still rains.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know you guys most of you out there love nothing more in sports than the red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we have Scott Hanson on Scott just signed a new four year deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did think though there was a time where he may not return to red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: We discuss all that and a lot of other things with Scott about the popularity of the red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, I know you guys love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you will definitely enjoy the conversation with Scott Hanson coming up.
[SPEAKER_03]: right here on him and red zone and then following Scott we have Salacata and the train of thoughts segment before we get to it all just a quick reminder of past pods in case you missed them did a bonus podcast this week with independent wrestler Matt Cardona formerly Zach writer in the WWE he's had a fascinating career where he got cut by the WWE during COVID and launched this massive independent career it's a great story
[SPEAKER_03]: Matt was great on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: ESPN's Daniel Laski was on the podcast last week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Scott Hanson, Dan had some contract negotiations with the SPN.
[SPEAKER_03]: He signs a new deal for four years.
[SPEAKER_03]: He talked about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeremy shop for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been on a couple of weeks ago as well to talk about East sixties.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Scott Hanson from the NFL Red Zone followed by train of thoughts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, right here, right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, joining me now.
[SPEAKER_03]: a man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Many of you cannot wait to see in a couple of months.
[SPEAKER_03]: Less than a couple of months, maybe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, just about every Sunday.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of we thought maybe we would lose him, but he is back with the red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he is the host, Scott Hanson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Scott, how's it going?
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy, good to be with you man.
[SPEAKER_00]: How's your summer going?
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone's going, okay, you know, it's always, I always say, soon as July first comes, it's just check off the days till September first.
[SPEAKER_03]: Get through these two months and get to, I know this college football like the last week of August and all that training camps open, but like to me, once July first comes, I'm on a mission September first, please.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the rhythms you've been in the business, your whole life, I've been in the business my whole adult life.
[SPEAKER_00]: the rhythms of our life.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what this is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I get caught in this mode.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure many of the folks listening right now and watching right now that feels him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to wish away summer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But man, I can't wait for that first octobox.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I can't wait for season kickoff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of, it's kind of that no man's land and we find ourselves in it every year at this time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I always say, you know, for people like us New Year's Day is not January first.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's whatever that first Thursday is when NBC kicks off the season.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a new year.
[SPEAKER_04]: One hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I mentioned it at the top.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of rumblings that
[SPEAKER_03]: you may not be going back to red zone, but you ended up, you tweeted out yourself that you will be back, you saw a new deal I assumed with NFL network.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you come close to leaving?
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it a tough decision?
[SPEAKER_03]: What was given to take me through the process of coming back?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a tough
[SPEAKER_00]: circumstance.
[SPEAKER_00]: We we the NFL and I had been talking going into my last contract expired just at the end of June here and we all obviously know the calendar.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we started talking before last season.
[SPEAKER_00]: Once the season hit and we hadn't reached the deal, I said, hey, guys, let me just focus on, I got to focus on the football here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm confident we'll get something done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been the host of the show for sixteen years now, sixteen seasons.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been with the NFL for eighteen seasons.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been good for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to think I've been good for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: This reasonable minds should be able to come to an agreement here.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, the NFL is they as they are want to do they are they are very tough negotiators and
[SPEAKER_00]: They're all the considerations that were in there, red zone platforming me to allow me to do all the other types of things that I do in my broadcasting career and with endorsements and appearances and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: They know that, they leverage that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, we and my reps and I shout out to athletes first, the Gideon Will Kaley, my whole team.
[SPEAKER_00]: They leverage the fact that, well, I'm the voice of people's Sundays of people's NFL studies, not everyone's, but a lot of folks.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there was quite a knock-down drag out negotiation, but I am thrilled to be back thrilled that we were able to come do an agreement.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I'll be rocking and rolling through.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is season seventeen coming up and we're signed through season twenty.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to think that I would be on a show for twenty years and have it be as successful as it has been and as it most likely will be is extraordinary.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very blessed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you have a moment where you thought you weren't going to be back?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose it would be like being a football player in free agency.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you love your position that got you to the point where other places want you,
[SPEAKER_00]: So you wanna stay and you like your teammates, you like your coaches, you like the demands of the position that you play for your current team.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if the management or ownership of that team doesn't value you as much as others might, you have to look at what's best for you, your career, your family, your life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so there was a time when I thought, I don't know if this is gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was not my intention to have to go that direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you have to be willing for that eventuality or that possibility.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, there were some reports that came out that, you know, that were kind of conflated truths, I think.
[SPEAKER_00]: My contract was up.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was reported in public and error was coming up and we're in a negotiation.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was true.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was a thing that said I was going to leave for NBC.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think there was conflated with
[SPEAKER_00]: what I did with gold zone for the parasol Olympics last summer and the fact that, well, it can be told now, I was and we were in the middle of a negotiation with NBC to come back and do future gold zones.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think some people got this truth and reported that NBC is going to pull Scott Hanson, you know, away and ultimately we were able to do deals with both because they don't directly conflict with football season.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so so I'm very glad that the kind of the best of both worlds happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm one of those people who sort of got confused as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll say this and we'll get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to get into this in depth.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just from someone who watches follows covers it.
[SPEAKER_03]: In my head, I was I'm one of these people that was like, I can't see Scott Hanson ever leaving the red zone because it is one of the most unique, you know, let's say most unique.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a unique
[SPEAKER_03]: job in sports media.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you've done it for so long and you're very popular.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also know, this is me saying this, not Scott, yet a fellow.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think sort of values.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're talent that much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good morning, football.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I saw these reports about NBC.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I on one podcast, I had Tony Reali on and I had asked him about his dream job and
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I said, oh, well, I looks like Scott Hanson's going to leave red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you want that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he said about doing studio.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it came out like, you know, well, you're not going to NBC and you were back a couple weeks later.
[SPEAKER_03]: So count me as one of those people who may have added fuel to that fire on.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I'm on here right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jim, yeah, I want to tear you apart for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you should.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now now I get the name and look at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, there was truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I could have said something publicly.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I want to do, I didn't choose.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, Tony reality to his credit, I think the way that it ultimately came out.
[SPEAKER_00]: He actually, I hope he doesn't mind me saying this.
[SPEAKER_00]: He contacted me and he was like, Scott, look at I didn't want to seem like I was gunning for your job.
[SPEAKER_00]: What not?
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tony's been in this professional long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been in this profession for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: We both kind of know that
[SPEAKER_00]: the ins and outs of the way the game is played and yeah it's but yeah I I understand I guess is all I guess I would say this was interesting to me what you said
[SPEAKER_00]: I love my job.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love hosting Red Zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that comes across.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love serving the football public.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I look at.
[SPEAKER_00]: I look at myself as a servant, believe it or not, when I go on the air.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it to glorify myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing it to try and make my platform greater.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is a byproduct of, you know, talking to millions of people on NFL Sundays and showing fifty, sixty, seventy touchdowns.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I am trying to serve the viewer as I would want to be served.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that, I love our industry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love our industry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you and your contemporaries who cover our industry so well, I devour all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love to know about the industry.
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason I set up what I'm about to say or what I'm about to ask you is this, you said, in your mind, you said, you couldn't ever see Scott Hanson leaving Red Zong, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll say this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sort of naive in the terms of the business aspect of things, because this is how I look at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Red zone has this really die-hard following.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would categorize Red zone as extremely popular.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd also say you've become almost like a cult figure in that world, which I don't like using that term because I sometimes think when people say cult figure, they mean it as like the opposite of popular.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually popular and it's almost like a cult figure like thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, that's a job you just don't give up easily.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, and everyone like to skirt around this and doesn't want to say it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But at the end of the day, when you head hits the pillow for everybody, it is about money.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if someone's going to offer you a massive amount of money in the NFL isn't, you have to leave because it would be irresponsible not to in a way.
[SPEAKER_03]: So take out the money aspect of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would have been shocked if you ever would have left red zone because it's such a unique gig that people, I mean, I've told you this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone I know is it's red zone, red zone, red zone, red zone, red zone, red zone, every Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I agree with a whole lot of what you just said there, but ultimately with what you just said, and I think maybe people that follow either red zone or follow sports broadcasting or followed the last year of the journey of my career to get to the point out,
[SPEAKER_00]: they might feel the same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you just explained why the negotiation was what it was because here is it what
[SPEAKER_00]: the Scott Hanson representation side would say is Scott is a unique talent and, you know, he is skill set Mary's perfectly with the job of red zone and the public loves him and all his time stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what the other side would say is we know Scott ain't going nowhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, you know, he's got the greatest gig of all time and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well,
[SPEAKER_00]: I liken it to maybe to Alex Trebek when he was hosting Jeopardy, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Jeopardy at its nature is a quiz show, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: People mostly tune in to see if they can get the answers or the questions as the case may be.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Alex Trebek, his skill set, married perfectly with the demands of the hosting role.
[SPEAKER_00]: And after a while, so many years, Alex Trebek became synonymous with Jeopardy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And no one could ever picture someone else hosting Jeopardy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, could any number of television hosts ask those questions or give in those answers on TV?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But would the audience like it as much?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the metaphor is this, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: People tune in to watch the football.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not doing into watch Scott Anson specifically, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They watch down.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, the comfort of having you there every week sports fans love that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That kind of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So many years ago and I kind of use it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's well, somebody called me touchdown Santa Claus that I'm the guy who shows up.
[SPEAKER_00]: into your house on the, maybe the one day off a week, you get from work, you know, depending on what your life is like.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I come bringing fifty, sixty, seventy touchdowns.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't, obviously, I don't create the touchdowns or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I bring the thing that you enjoy, the gives sports fans, football fans, that dopamine hit that they give.
[SPEAKER_00]: when the witching hour comes and we're rocking and rolling and you're seeing winds and losses and jaw-dropping moments.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to, again, go back to the point, I want to serve the audience as best I can.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not because I'll get recognized when I walk through the airport or go into a steakhouse somewhere, although that happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: But because I'm a fan too, and I truly believe in doing on to others as I would have them doing to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you can see, like over my shoulder here,
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the camera could pick that up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the TVs you showed them at five television.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my place in Los Angeles here and that's my media wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a seventy inch TV.
[SPEAKER_00]: It looks small seventy inch TV flanked by four fifty inch TVs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I consume a ton of sports.
[SPEAKER_00]: I consume a ton of media.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm a fan and I want those sportscasters and those producers and directors and everyone working on those to be at their peak.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's what I try and do on on red zone and I love doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, listen, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very sure it is answer, but no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, listen, there's this the
[SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of like, you know, the sick part of me that likes anarchy, that it would have been interesting to see if you left only because the backlash would have been immense, it would have been fun content.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I would have felt heartbroken for
[SPEAKER_03]: Tony Reali or whoever it was that would have to fill in because no one ever wants, you know, here's the thing sports fans don't like their stuff messed with.
[SPEAKER_03]: We see it sort of almost in baseball like when the playoffs come the local announcers are out.
[SPEAKER_03]: The national announcers are in everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I even remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Joe Buck, Joe Buck used to get just bludgeon on social media early on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't happen as much now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the first year he left
[SPEAKER_03]: Fox for ESPN, and then Joe Davis took over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone on Twitter was like, where's Joe?
[SPEAKER_03]: Buck.
[SPEAKER_03]: We missed Joe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Buck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like just now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you and Joe Davis just won the Emmy award for this flight, like play very well earned as a matter of fact, and is a sensational broadcast room will be for decades to come, but
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you've left the sports media story of it, we've been fascinating today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, some of the discussions as you can imagine were, you know, a Scott, there's a thousand people that would love the host red zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, guys, there's only one way to find out one way to empirically find out what my value is to red zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think I want to find out that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think you guys want to find out.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, good for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, we didn't get to the nuclear option and and and I'm back and and I'm going to give it everything I can and even even I become better at what I do hopefully.
[SPEAKER_03]: This might be a little bit of a weird question, but you two years ago when YouTube came in for Sunday ticket
[SPEAKER_03]: Direct TV used to have something ticket, then they were out.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then Direct TV, which had a separate red zone, that was done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's only one red zone now.
[SPEAKER_03]: True.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you noticed anything different the last two years like with that with the Direct TV red zone gone, do you notice?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, either more people commenting on red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: or a bigger audience, anything different since it's gone to just the one red zone with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, the audience has increased.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not sure how publicly available the numbers are.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not my business, but
[SPEAKER_00]: NFL Red Zone, the one that I host, has always been the biggest red zone because of the distribution, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Androcycelliano and that crew from Direct TV that did a tremendous job on on the Red Zone channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: for years that they were only available obviously on direct TV.
[SPEAKER_00]: So our audience, so we absorbed the red zone loving audience still wants to watch red zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not necessarily just going to go back to one game or they're going to use second screen, however people like to ingest their football Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: So our audience definitely increased.
[SPEAKER_00]: We would hear some comments and whatnot, and then Andrew still, if Andrew's watching this, you know, he knows, but a fan I am of him and his career, and his abilities were both Syracuse guys, shocker Syracuse broadcasts.
[SPEAKER_00]: He still has his loyal following, where I'll still get a tweet every once in a while that says, yeah, oh, he's no saliano over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine, but I hope that if people
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, give give me if they were a Siciliano and the red zone channel people that just stick around long enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you'll love what you have because we are the the option now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it, but it hasn't changed the way we approached it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when we had
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even like they were directly competition with us as well, Jimmy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's why you would think, yeah, there's two red zones there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, not really because if they're directed, we could access your version.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: It would be like saying, there are two Italian restaurants.
[SPEAKER_00]: but they're in two different parts of, you know, the state of New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not in competition with each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they were right on, in other words, you already, if you already had direct TV, well, if you watched Red Zone, you watched the Red Zone channel and you didn't even think or necessarily know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you had anything else for your television provider, you had access to NFL Red Zone and Scott Hansen's Red Zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it wasn't like you were flipping the channel back and forth though, there's the Red Zone channel, there's NFL Red Zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like two similar things, but in different parts that the choice was already made.
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, my point would be that it didn't their existence or now that they're gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't change our production at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the staff at NFL Red Zone have always been.
[SPEAKER_00]: gung-ho, not because of competition, but because we are professionals, and we love serving the audience, you guys, we're gonna be the best that we can absolutely be, and let's figure out ways every single show to get better at showing the action, not just every touchdown from every game, but every game-changing moment and turnover and jaw-dropping play, as much as we can possibly show, let's keep doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now comes September when you when we kick off the season and red zone it'll be year seventeen for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: My Matt tells me it's starting in two thousand eight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two thousand nine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: This will be seventeen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: got to win.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you realize how many years it did you realize from the beginning that it take two three years five years when did you realize how important this was to NFL fans and how many NFL fans just blow off one in four o'clock CBS and Fox and they just watch red zone when did you realize the enormity of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You might think I'm engaging in revisionist history here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy, I knew NFL Red Zone would be a hit before the first episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling you, and I don't mean to sound like Babe Ruth standing at home plate pointing out the center field, but that metaphor is not far off, not that it was all about me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And here's why, when I heard what the concept was going to be, what the mission was going to be and what the capabilities that they were going to allow myself and our staff to do for the audience, I said, this is going to be the best way to watch football.
[SPEAKER_00]: As I told you before, I'm a student
[SPEAKER_00]: of sports broadcasting, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to do this from the time that I knew I couldn't play NFL football.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to broadcast it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm talking about childhood.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go back far enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to watch Howard Co.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cell.
[SPEAKER_00]: do half time highlights on Monday night football.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was absolutely must see TV.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was, this is before cable.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is before obviously the internet.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you wanted to see the ten thousand foot view of the NFL, the comprehensive look at not just your team in your hometown, but the entirety of
[SPEAKER_00]: NFL football, Howard Cocell, halftime highlights was the way to see it, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: That was through the seventies and even into the evening, into the early eighties.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then get to the late eighties and all throughout the nineties.
[SPEAKER_00]: The absolute best way to watch the comprehensive look at the NFL from ten thousand foot view.
[SPEAKER_00]: was Chris Burman and Tom Jackson and the staff at ESPN doing NFL prime time, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Must see TV.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the sort of the inside the NBA of the nineties.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the absolute best show and everybody watched it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you go back to Howard Cossell, he was giving you the best of the NFL the day after it happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Perman was giving you the best of the NFL hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: after it happened, but definitely after the fact, you can obviously see where we're going here.
[SPEAKER_00]: NFL Red Zone shows you everything as it is happening live, or ten seconds after it happened, if a fifty yard touchdown happened, we couldn't anticipate that in the middle of the second quarter.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we just re-rack it and get it to you immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guarantee you it'll be on Red Zone before it even hits your phone as an alert of, hey, watch this Jamar Chase, fifty yard touchdown, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I knew beforehand when I said, wait a minute, we're going to be able to show every touchdown from every game without stopping seven straight hours, go every game and be able to ping pong.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be America's remote control.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be the greatest thing ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a long-winded answer, but I wanted to flesh it out to not say, oh, yeah, I just thought that I or our team could make the greatest football show there is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely thought about it as a broadcaster and thought about it as a sports fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, this is what I would want to watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we can make it this way, this is what I'd want to watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: And from two thousand and nine, that first September,
[SPEAKER_00]: Sports Illustrated, you may or may not know this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sports Illustrated, it was two thousand and nine, so we ended the season right, obviously at the turn of the decade into two thousand ten sports Illustrated did an issue of best of the decade.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they put NFL red zone on their best of the decade and we had been in existence for one season.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I thought for sure it was going.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's a way people want to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll ask it this way.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you knew from before it started, it would be big.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you realize you were right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there had to be a ballman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or a year or something happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: because I do feel like maybe I, I don't know, maybe I have a mystery on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like it's gotten bigger and bigger lately.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've never had it at first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyone can get access, anyone with a television basically can get access to NFL Red Zone now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what it was, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because when you guys first started, I had, it wasn't, well, you're not on direct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the two of you were not available on Direct TV NFL Network was, but obviously, so is a separate channel, but to get into the business for the for the business minds on here, NFL Red Zone was created in part to help NFL network get on more cable systems and and be in more homes using television.
[SPEAKER_00]: So NFL Red Zone when we were created, we were in
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we had a deal with Comcast at the time, which, of course, was the biggest cable provider in the country, you know, Xfinity as it's now called.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dish network and maybe a few others, but time Warner did not carry us.
[SPEAKER_00]: And neither did cable vision.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I remember what it was like, parent had cable vision.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I would often go to my parents on Sundays.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anymore because I'm paying so much money for Sunday ticket.
[SPEAKER_03]: wasting my money.
[SPEAKER_03]: But back then, and I remember being I rate that NFL network and red zone both were not offered there for a couple of years.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want to first start.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, picture the scenario, then NFL red zone exists and certain people have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And anyone who tries it, not anyone, but most people who try it are like, whoa, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then they start talking about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you go and have the greatest slice of pizza you've ever had, you don't just go, wow, that was the greatest slice of pizza I've ever had.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there, you go, you tell your buddies, yeah, I want over to genos the other day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the best pizza I've ever had.
[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone's talking about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sports talk radio hosts that we're checking out NFL Red Zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, I watched this red zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the way I want to watch football.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, the internet and social media and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it became this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you said you were I rate, picture the business going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: People that have at the time time Warner cable did not have a deal with NFL network, nor NFL red zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: People call them and want to get this red zone thing that I'm here about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sorry, sir.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you get enough of those calls with a hang up of people saying, I'm going to switch TV providers or something, that grease the skids for the deal to get done.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe to your larger question, it did take a while for us to be available to more millions than we were.
[SPEAKER_00]: almost everyone who tries it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are contrarians who say, no, I just want to watch one game and that's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any problem with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: If the Green Bay Packers or your favorite team watch every snap of your Green Bay Packers games, I have no, no issue with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for the fantasy football players, for the for the gamblers, for the
[SPEAKER_00]: for just fans of the sport in general or fans of the team that's playing on Monday night football or Sunday night football or the by week or Thursday.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are they going to watch Sunday at one o'clock yesterday?
[SPEAKER_00]: What's their best option?
[SPEAKER_00]: And many people at the term in that NFL red zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe to answer your question when I knew it was like
[SPEAKER_00]: What's that book?
[SPEAKER_00]: The tipping point, you know, when I do it hit the tipping point, when people started going out as as the octobox or as as me or Halloween, I was like, whoa, when people started naming their pets,
[SPEAKER_00]: After things on NFL red zone was a dog and Idaho named octobox.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it probably more when when people started when people started to incorporate red zone into their marriage vows.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have been sent videos by husbands and wives saying, you know, I pledge faithfulness and I pledge to watch red zone with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not joking multiple times.
[SPEAKER_00]: What else?
[SPEAKER_00]: I get Christmas cards from people I've never met because they consider me one of their family.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when I was like, whoa, that's if you point has been reached.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is, this is not a hit show.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a, it's a sports cultural phenomenon.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm thinking about it here, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, the marriage of red zone in fantasy could not be more perfect than it just hit me too.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I, because I, I have gotten the impression on in the last three, four, five years, maybe it's even gone to a red zone has even gone to another level.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just, it just hit me like the lightning bolt and I should have known this as a degenerate gambler.
[SPEAKER_03]: But with the daily fantasy stuff where people can bet on which player scores to touchdown, which player
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, passing touchdowns, receiving touchdowns.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now you have a second marriage, basically that couldn't be more perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you're basically the fantasy combined with the fantasy, traditional fantasy combined with the gambling, daily fantasy style.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look at we are the most sports, mad country on earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I say that as someone who has traveled to almost forty of the two hundred United Nations recognized countries.
[SPEAKER_00]: So most of the major populated countries I've traveled to and spent time in, whatnot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Australia's the only is the country.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that comes closest to craze sports fans everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the United States, we are a sports mad culture.
[SPEAKER_00]: The NFL is, you can't even say, King of the sports culture.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is, it is the whole,
[SPEAKER_00]: solar system of American sports.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, a show that would deliver like NFL red zone does to that type of a populace is going to be galactically popular and and it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm thankful for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to put you on the spot here.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you don't want to answer this, you don't have to because I don't know, you might not have time to think, but I'm just thinking, if you would have left
[SPEAKER_03]: Who do you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who would you have liked to have seen replace you?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who do you think would be able to seamlessly fit in and do that job?
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have liked for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I was going to be a little sarcastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have my favorites.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know who I would say, who was probably my, I mean, I hate name and names because, but I do and I tell him this when I see him, I think Mike Toreco is at the peak of his powers right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: can do things.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I see him, another Syracuse guy, I say, Mike, you are scary good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what I mean by that is this, I watch, as I already said, I watch five games at the same time on a regular basis.
[SPEAKER_00]: I watch sports all day long.
[SPEAKER_00]: I see every sports, not every sports, guys, where I see all the big ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, yeah, I could probably do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, oh, that's an interesting choice he made or she made, you know, to say this or do this,
[SPEAKER_00]: When Tereko is at his peak and it can be anything from his Olympic duty to Sunday night football to triple crown horse races or any of NBC's properties, he'll do some things where I go, oh man, I don't know if I could do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like transition from that and have that knowledge and that historical background and whatnot and be so articulate and hit the high notes with enthusiasm without being over the top
[SPEAKER_00]: like, you know, whatever, a nine yard conversion on third and eight in the middle of the second quarter.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not trying to be like, ah, you know about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But do you think, and I think Jericho by the way, let me just finish this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I say Jericho because I know that he is well more compensated and NBC than he would have been at NFL.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he never would have taken the job.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's who my answer is.
[SPEAKER_03]: But don't you think you need to be a little over the top for red zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Say it again what do you think you need to be a little over the top for red tone I do I think about it this way and and you know, I get my critics most of I'm very thankful most of the fan reaction that I get even on social media, which we know what a what a swamp back can be ninety some percent is positive feedback
[SPEAKER_00]: and seemingly sincere positive feedback.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very thankful for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But some folks who do are like, I get too excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the thing about it is, I'm not Joe Buck calling now Monday night football, who might have a dud of a game going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be ten to three in the third quarter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only one touchdown on the board.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that was a quarterback sneak like
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing nothing but fifty art touchdowns, but game winning drives.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, look at this hit that just happened in this game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this catch that just happened in this game.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to have the enthusiasm commensurate for the moments.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm doing it live.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm showing, I'm showing these folks, what is happening right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want you to feel like I have natural enthusiasm in my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll get that sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I want you to feel like we're on the couch next to each other or we're sitting at the bar next to each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, oh, oh, but maybe they can't see the television right away.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm about to tip the television.
[SPEAKER_00]: So where this person sitting next to me can look, look at this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look at this.
[SPEAKER_00]: watch this and then enjoy in the revelry of for my money the greatest and most competitive sport on the planet NFL football that has been engineered.
[SPEAKER_00]: whether through salary cap or the draft system or roster limits or all different types of ways has been engineered for the Carolina Panthers being able to beat the Philadelphia Eagles on any given Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: and let alone the witching hour, of course, which is when the end of the one o'clock's hit, you are guaranteed every week, you're guaranteed to see someone with a fourth quarter come back or some shocker, some jaw dropper, and we get to show that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, I do think
[SPEAKER_00]: to be a good host on red zone, you need to be able to hit those high notes and you're going to have more high notes than you are almost than any other form of broadcasting a single game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah, make yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You need someone who's excitable over the top a little bit, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to, you want to also a person who seems like just an NFL thing, you know, so it would not have been easy to replace you.
[SPEAKER_03]: It would have been, it would have been fascinating to see what they would have done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, basically we won't have to book me again in four years and then we'll, we will.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: A couple of things, non-red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're, so you're going to be back next year with NBC with the Gold Zone with the Winter Olympics.
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to get into this for a sec.
[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned it earlier.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want a couple of Emmys as part of a team with NBC.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sports Emmys for the Olympics.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just had Dan or Lovsky on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, or Lovsky, Dan, congrats to Dan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He talked about, he lost out on the sports Emmy this year to Barclay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he said he was, quote, furious and wanted to leave this ceremony when I had him on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I just want to confirm that that's accurate.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, yes, hundred percent accurate.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was waving like a child.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those fears.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to leave.
[SPEAKER_03]: You lost this year as you were nominated, and I guess any Johnson won.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: What was your reaction?
[SPEAKER_03]: Were you furious or did that not end?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I was shocked and would be so honest about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to know what you, when you lose, how you handle that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, I don't do this for awards, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do it for the cash.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I made it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't make sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I truly don't do it for awards.
[SPEAKER_00]: I might be considered like, if you hear a Hollywood actor who says they can, they can be in some, you know, indie art piece that is acclaimed by the critics and maybe get an Oscar nomination or it can, it can bank a billion dollars in the box office.
[SPEAKER_00]: I say, let me go to the one that the fans love because again, I focus on the fans or I try to every Sunday when I go in.
[SPEAKER_00]: That being said, it was an honor, an absolute honor to be nominated for outstanding studio host, which for those who don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the biggest individual honor.
[SPEAKER_00]: in my industry, either that or play by play, if you're a play by play person or a studio host, those are the two biggest individual honors that the Emmy Awards gives out for sports casting.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was for my work on red zone and on gold zone, that shout out to Molly Solomon, the president of NBC Olympics.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was the driving force by and saying, Scott, you should be nominated for an Emmy for what you've done
[SPEAKER_00]: with the Olympics and with football.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I looked at the competition though to be honest with you Jimmy going into it and I flew out to New York for the ceremony and Kate Scott and the great work that she does.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Mike Tereko, the absolute best in class of sportscasters.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I look up to him, even though he's a contemporary, Scott Van Pelt, who gets the final in my household, he gets the final word on any given big sports night.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets the final word when he comes on with sports center with SVP on late at night.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Ernie Johnson, the captain,
[SPEAKER_00]: of what may be the greatest sports studio show of the millennium.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was in great company honored to be nominated.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is true.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was not upset.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't, I didn't really write a speech in case I want.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know people say that, but like, I'm like, there's no way being nominated for it for the first time.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I went out to lunch prior to the ceremony.
[SPEAKER_00]: with my agents, and Will Peotock said, he goes, Scott, you know, I think, I think you might, you might want to write something down.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you being serious?
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, let's be real.
[SPEAKER_00]: We know the business.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I had no problem with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, I was sitting in a row two, Ernie was in row one and to accept his award.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had to walk like right in front of me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thrilled to give him a big hug.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a fan of his work and a fan of the man that he is as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, not a sexy answer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, because, but I said to Dan, I'm like, well, Dan, I mean, he lost a Barclay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can you really be furious, but he was brutally honest.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said he was furious.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you lose her any chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: How many?
[SPEAKER_00]: He barked probably one, six, seven, eight of those, maybe?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but I was, so when I was looking at, so I went to look at the nominees for your category when I saw this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Has red zone ever been nominated for best studio show not in that regard no, which I was that that took blew me away was when I looked at best studio show and obviously you have inside the NBA college game day, but like
[SPEAKER_03]: Reds don't should be dated every year, but just it's an eight hours show.
[SPEAKER_03]: One person get directing traffic giving in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how does that not get nominated?
[SPEAKER_03]: That was that to me worse than not winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't even answer for you because I'm not really on the on the committee at NFL media that that, you know, submits the entries and all that or on the, you know, a part of the voting board from the Academy that that does it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, for me,
[SPEAKER_00]: If they did an internet, if they lit up your your phones and said, Hey, let's do an let's do an online fans choice award for best studio show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be happy to enter into that competition if you if you will.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think our fans love our show and I'm so, so grateful for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking to you from Los Angeles, California where I live.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm right down the road from Hollywood, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And get the Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have buddies who are Hollywood actors and and and trying to make their careers and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I tell all of them, I wish for you a role of vehicle for your career.
[SPEAKER_00]: that can be as defining and enjoyable and fulfilling as NFL Red Zone has been for mine, because it's perfect for who I am and the audience loves it as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is rare alchemy in this
[SPEAKER_00]: in this entertainment world of unlimited choices, whether on a big screen on your wall or in your pocket on your right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what what's a wilder moment when you get a video of a bright and groom mentioning red zone in their wedding vows or being a part of Madden.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know we were talking so yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The wedding vow still gets me every time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am so humbled by that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been asked by people I don't know to officiate weddings to fly and be, you know, in a groom's men in the wedding just to attend the wedding.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You should do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You should do it one time just for the shits and giggles of it can be fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did a live FaceTime for the groom at a wedding because I can't remember the circumstances, but I did, and by the way, saying this on a widely viewed podcast right now, I'm going to get all sorts of requests.
[SPEAKER_00]: But FaceTime the groom right after the ceremony was over when the party was just kicking in the high gear and he freaked out.
[SPEAKER_00]: All the groomsmen knew it was coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: The family knew it was coming and he didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that was fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Madden, Madden, I mean, I'm an old timer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go back to the first console version of Madden, the original like Sega Genesis back when I was in college.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now to think that I'm going to be in the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: But as an announcer is a thrill.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's coming out here in August.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, reserve your copy now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then what my role is, I wasn't able to really talk about it too much.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now it has been announced.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll be doing
[SPEAKER_00]: the halftime updates, but get this Jimmy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you're a gamer at all, but you understand, you know what franchise mode is, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, franchise mode, so you want to be whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: The New York Giants, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And your buddy that lives down the street from you, he plays Matt and two, and he wants to be the Dallas Cowboys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're both in the NFC East in that fictitious franchise mode.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're at half time of your game, Uncle Scott's gonna pop up and do the half time highlights of what's going on in the other games and give you all the scores and whatnot, which will impact the season that you're playing in franchise mode.
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously there's a button you can skip the half time if you just wanna go right to the action and Madden fans and Madden players.
[SPEAKER_00]: They know all about that, but it should be a great wrinkle with this year's addition of Madden.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope people receive it as well as they receive my work on Red Zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to ask you one football question before you wrap it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know the less I'm going to think we talked about.
[SPEAKER_03]: The balance of one o'clock and four o'clock is very important to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't like those weeks with sort of two four o'clock games.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you sort of schedule this year, just what your first impressions thoughts.
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason I'm reaching over camera here, I'm at my little work area here in my place.
[SPEAKER_00]: Within one hour of the schedule released, this is what I came up with.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for those who are just listening and not watching, I'm holding up a, it is a little mini, I guess you call it a spreadsheet that I made that I break down the early and late window.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is week one.
[SPEAKER_00]: week one, there are eight nearly window four in the late window.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how all schedule releases like all politics are local.
[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone only cares about what impacts them or their favorite team or whatever their life.
[SPEAKER_00]: For me, it's what are the early and late window splits.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can't be through that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I saw a lot of threes on that before, but I understand why that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And your audience should know this too.
[SPEAKER_00]: the NFL tries to, tries to orchestrate it where, um, but when I put on a red zone notebook, um, uh, the NFL tries to orchestrate it where they can make a pseudo national game.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know utilities, but yeah, like if they do that's the most watch game every week is for twenty five CBS or Fox.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now something like football still beats it in the ratings.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, yeah, I'm pretty sure, again, it
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, we can discuss that anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so, so they do, they put two other regional games in there, but they want to prop up one game at the four, uh, four, oh five or four, twenty or five times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chicken off, they do have both, but they put the bigger game at four, twenty-five of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so we've got, there are no two game late windows, which are death for red row.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're thankful for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's some fours, there's some fives.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when we get the week eight, seventeen and eighteen, when they shuffle the schedule for the best playoff possibility matchups, we can even get a six or a seven game late window and those are fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's,
[SPEAKER_00]: That first thing I look at when the schedule comes out, what are the early and late splits?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I write down a little note card that I monitor as we go through.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you get to a four o'clock window on this, just three games, is that easy for you, or is it not easy just because of fatigue and tiredness from already doing it for three hours?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's both actually, it's, it's, I mean, it's easier and that once I establish that, okay, we've got Seahawks Niners, you know, in Santa Clara, we've got Cowboys, Giants, the Sudo National Game, and then we've got, you know, Arizona versus Detroit or whatever it is,
[SPEAKER_00]: We can bounce back and forth without as many transitions by me.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I've got teams in the early window, I need to keep, you know, touch going, okay, we're going back to the Falcons game, okay, we're going back to the Packers now, we're going back to the, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: where it's a little bit slower, but from the fatigue set, and I try and keep myself in good shape mentally and physically, I want to have the enthusiasm in our seven that I had an hour one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, A to be a professional, but B because I know that even if it's a game that someone that maybe most of the countries like, okay,
[SPEAKER_00]: not the biggest deal in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone in our audience, Jimmy, is living and dying by every third down the version in that game.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to be able to serve that guy or that gal as well as I did the early window audience.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it is a little bit of a challenge.
[SPEAKER_00]: You got to focus sometimes because I'm a human, you know, biological, you know, drainage, you know, happens where, well, that was a bad term because you probably asked the bathroom question.
[SPEAKER_00]: nonetheless, you know, I can get my battery can get kind of low, but I want to, I want to keep hammering away until we sign off with the touchdown montage at the end of the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're, oh, you're a bigger question.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it is early window late window, give me an eight game early window.
[SPEAKER_00]: We fill up that octobox.
[SPEAKER_00]: When we hit the witching hour, if you got eight games, you are almost guaranteed that three, four, five of them are coming down to the final position after the two minute warning and something's coming down to the final drive or the final play of the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's the absolute best.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the best hour in sports television every week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why, you know, it's a bigger discussion.
[SPEAKER_03]: I should bring it up here as we wrap up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, there is this talk about how the one o'clock windows have been getting hurt just because everything's getting splintered off.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got the, you know, the nine thirty games.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had a Friday game there.
[SPEAKER_03]: This, but I've always said my favorite time, I know the best games at Sunday, four, twenty five and Sunday night, Sunday at one.
[SPEAKER_03]: is that to me is heaven each week.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then because it's new, it's fresh, it's like you, especially with the rhythms of people's lives, you and I are blessed enough to work in the sports world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Think about the person who is the, you know, whatever walk of life they have.
[SPEAKER_00]: They get, they get one day off, maybe, maybe a weekend off, but they're off on Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're at home, and they want to, and they sit down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe went to a house of worship in the morning or whatever, and they got their snacks, their beverages, or they've been cooking to get ready for the one o'clock Eastern kickoffs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why when I hit that first note on the air, the first words I get to say, I'm trying to bring it right out because I know this is the this is the peak of the NFL players that I'm covering the coaches that are coaching in it and the fans who love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the peak of the week and it's it's through.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love being in the captain's chair for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the fans have thrilled you'll be back four more seasons at least so everyone will be very happy to have that stability with the but I love it red zone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks so much for coming on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate it's got great to be with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a good rest of summer.
[SPEAKER_00]: See you week one.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joining me now is he does every week for our train of thoughts segment from WFN or radio in New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes and why TV in New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: My buddy, South Dakota.
[SPEAKER_03]: South.
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad there's no sports going on this week because we have a lot of non-sports stuff to discuss.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we could get into the all-star game, but I don't think it's worth it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will never understand people who get into a game where nothing is on the line.
[SPEAKER_03]: literally nothing is on the line.
[SPEAKER_03]: The players don't care.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I saw this morning with him in this Wednesday, when I saw, I didn't watch the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: I watched two episodes of quarterback on Netflix last night, which I really like.
[SPEAKER_03]: The pass and tweet about who was in the home run derby and then who wasn't for the extra innings thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Judge and Otani aren't in it because they're on a plane going home.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why anyone would watch the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: The players don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, that was basically what I said on radio today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if if they're not prioritizing the game, why should we?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, but I don't, but I don't, I don't knock the play.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why should a player prioritize it?
[SPEAKER_03]: What is winning the game do for them?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when I say they, I mean, majorly baseball.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't win the players.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about majorly baseball.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, if the American League won last night, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the players, the doops are sitting home watching the game and the players are trying to play and go in home.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, people wake up, pay attention.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't waste your time when it all start game.
[SPEAKER_03]: ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't get worked up about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't get worked up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the players don't want no part of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want their incentive when they make the team.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't want to be part of the going away.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, Aaron Judge, probably couldn't get out of it, land a fist enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: After his two winnings on what over three, I don't know how long he played, but two at bats this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I didn't watch this whole box for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do like quarterback though, and I watch two episodes less than I'm almost done.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very, you know what it is?
[SPEAKER_03]: I like Joe Barrow a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a, and I don't, I'm going to use a word that has a negative connotation, but I mean it in a good way.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a weird dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe unique is more of the word.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the second biggest stars.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jared Gov's wife.
[SPEAKER_03]: And rightfully so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is she pregnant in this girl or that that film doesn't matter what she is.
[SPEAKER_03]: If she's on screen, it's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, would you recommend it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you and I, I feel like we've talked about these type shows before.
[SPEAKER_01]: As a matter of fact, we talked about this exact show.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember I thought you were saying that, like, you couldn't get into it last year.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had trouble with you, but this year, I like it mainly because of borrow.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I have to say I'm just jonesing for any kind of football fix I can get.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't know why I haven't given it a shot yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just do so much stuff that you could watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't, it's, it's like, I don't really care about Jared Goff and his wife or Joe Barr.
[SPEAKER_01]: I care about what they do on the field.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you care about Jared Goff's wife trust me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm familiar with her.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but like, I really, you know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: The best stuff in it as always.
[SPEAKER_03]: is the NFL film stuff when they're miced up during games.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the NFL films, the such a tremendous job with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where it covers last season?
[SPEAKER_03]: Last season.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the appeal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you cover them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does Joe borrow going to his house getting robbed and all that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's interesting that you know, if you remember the Bengals lost their first game of the season at home to the Patriots who everyone thought were going to be one of the like three, four, five games in the league.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's a fascinating look back into, you know, Kirk Cousins, his reaction when they drifted, penex, you fries the Falcons fans, you should watch it just for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I've read it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not happy, not happy.
[SPEAKER_03]: They drifted penex, you know, so.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, like I said, a lot of non-sports stuff to get to.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll just, I said, spoke about quarterback.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me give one of the quick recommendation.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is if you're old like me and you grew up in the eighties.
[SPEAKER_03]: CNN is airing a documentary on live aid.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just this week, the fortieth anniversary of live aid.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was old enough to watch it live, sadly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have a positive and a negative.
[SPEAKER_03]: The positive is I watch the first episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's on Sunday nights at nine p.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: But obviously, you could watch it whenever you want.
[SPEAKER_03]: I deviate it and then watch it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I can get through the commercials.
[SPEAKER_03]: I loved it because it starts with the first episode doesn't even get to live aid.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first episode covers sort of the making of do they know it's Christmas.
[SPEAKER_03]: which from Band-Aid, which led into live aid being corrected.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's very, very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: The negative, I can't, you know, I'm the anti streaming guy and I'm like, just give me cable and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: But now I'm at the point, it's very hard to watch or show like that where it's one hour episode.
[SPEAKER_03]: once a week with commercials.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like give me the four episodes all at once.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me bang it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Get no one hour on Sunday night with commercials.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like forty minutes by the time you don't have it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I got to watch it over the next four weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: That now in this day and age is a rough way to watch any kind of sort of especially documentary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if I have the the capacity to do that anymore or the patients to stick with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure like there are certain shows that come out that all we really love and if it all right, so then I and you look forward to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That type of show an hour long documentary with commercials most of the streaming shows that have no commercials.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I deviate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was on from nine to ten.
[SPEAKER_03]: I deviate it and I watched it at like like something like that and got through it in forty minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we both had incidents this week sort of on the home front yours was way worse than mine because mine didn't directly involve me, but Monday afternoon I'm working in the middle of the day maybe one to a clock at home.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard the loudest screech of my entire life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the loudest smash I've ever heard of my life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And normally, I sort of live near a main road, so not on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I hear a lot of noises, and I never pay attention.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't go out and like, yent it up with the neighbors.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't check things.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one, I'm like, I have to check this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it sounded like there was an eight car crash right in front of my house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two houses down, truck drove into the house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was somehow nobody got hurt.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll kind of truck we talking here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't know, I'm not a man, so I don't know what the trucks are, but it was like a truck.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it was like, you know what it was?
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, it looked like they were like landscape or workers, like one of those kinds of trucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably they were like trying to avoid a light and swerve and went through a little white picket fence and then right into the window.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_03]: DM.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, that did not directly affect me.
[SPEAKER_03]: What though happened to you?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Saturday morning, as I normally do, trying to get the pull ready for some company, and I'm going out at a blow up a float for my wife, and I look to the left of the pool shed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, like you know, sometimes it's just like you happen to randomly see the spider in your room.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, God, like I just noticed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, I noticed that before bed because that would have sucked like what if I didn't see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what made me see this freaking thing, but I looked down to the lesson, like what the hell is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I like leave a hose or something over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was in the rocks, so lots of the shed, a snake, a freaking, slimy, dirty, slithering snake, and I freaked out and called the cops.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you tweeted a picture of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It didn't look like a big, it wasn't like a Jake the snake, Robert's Damian snake.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Mount Python, no, whatever the hell that was.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was a, I've learned it was a garter snake.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you called the cops?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I called the cops because I googled and it said call animal control.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they said, like I ran away from the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I looked at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't figure out what it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then when I saw the head, I was like, Oh, my God ran inside got my daughter inside got the dog inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was moving.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was moving.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, even worse, we're sitting there called a coiled up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We made a little scary.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, don't attack you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then my wife came running out.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: She takes a picture of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she gets right up in there and takes a picture of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was googling right away, what do I do with this?
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to get this thing out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I called animal control, but they said, if it's weekends, then you have to call the cops.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I called the cops.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he was like, yeah, and then he's nine one one nine one one.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I went to animal control, then I had the they said call the cops, so I called the police, they said what's local on police department.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, yeah, I said, there's a snake in my backyard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need help and they had that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I probably know we could do about it, but let me call animal control and then the animal control called me back later and she sounded exactly as you would expect an animal control person would speak would sound and basically said the same thing like, Oh,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll use to those.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go to Snake and that comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: No big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just leave it alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: It'll leave you alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that made you feel better.
[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then I called my guy, it goes past control mat.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, all right, usually the guy like the exterminators, our exterminators.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, usually we don't do snakes, but I'll come over and see what's I'll try to put it in a bucket and get out of there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he starts poking at it with the stick, the things starts slithering.
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets down in there trying to get it through the rocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: and ends up going under the pool shed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was the last that we saw that he said he could get some snake deterrent, which I ordered from Amazon, but it could be there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Snake deterrent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Snake repellent.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so let me recap it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just want to.
[SPEAKER_03]: So first you call out a more control.
[SPEAKER_03]: They say call the cops because it's a weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: I grew old animal control.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I had a call the cops.
[SPEAKER_03]: You call the cops.
[SPEAKER_03]: They sent you back to animal control.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that story about the weekend was a lie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they, I guess, they have to call animal control and get them to call me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, whatever that was.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then animal control basically acts like you're a big was
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you go to Amazon, you buy some snake repellent and that was the entire incident.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you never is being outside in the backyard all day Saturday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I got to a, once I saw the, the exterminator like poke it with the stick and try to catch it in the bucket and I saw it slithering.
[SPEAKER_01]: It did not look as scary as it appeared to be where it was coiled.
[SPEAKER_01]: and that he like confirmed to me goes dude, I know it sucks to know that it's under there, but trust me, he's not coming out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And even if he does, he's not venomous, just go about your day, forget it, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: And how is your wifehood all this?
[SPEAKER_01]: She was probably better with it than I was, but not, I mean, nobody likes having a snake in there yard, but.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I would have thought, you know, she would have really
[SPEAKER_03]: Not been good with all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was, I was worse with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's just, I don't, again, she doesn't like it, but she's most at most times like an adult with it and just, okay, well, it's not what we can do about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, but I don't want to live with the snake.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, when you're home, are you often thinking about the snake?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there a snake back there?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where is the snake?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are there more than one snake?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this on your mind?
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, well, the the experimenter told me that if it's not a big issue because it's not sneak skin if there were you would be able to tell like either he's been here for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably just lost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't think it's a big issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: But every day since I saw that thing, I had thought about snakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And every time I go outside to check the pool and you know what I want to put the robot back in the the shed, I was I did it quickly and, you know, I was frightened even do so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to see that thing again.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen a snake out here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, is it a Jersey thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the, what's the deal with that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're all along Alan too, but I think it's more common apparently where I am in Jersey.
[SPEAKER_03]: My backyard in the summer, especially is filled with rabbits.
[SPEAKER_03]: At all times, there's like two or three rabbits in my backyard.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, a little better than a snake.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you hear rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good, snake.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where is the snake?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the question.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, you're in the pool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I get the exterminator back to apply the repellents, I'm going to ask him if he either saw it or signs of it, like I need to know if it's gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the repellent will confirm it's going to be away and at some point after just move on.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, we have one of the topic to discuss before we get to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to say that I got to do this real quick.
[SPEAKER_03]: I put out a tweet over the weekend, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was either Saturday or Sunday morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just want to address a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did this is what I tweeted.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, let me first address the contingency of Twitter assholes.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to reply, wash it yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I should wash it myself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Having said that, we're now at thirty dollars for a basic no-frills car wash, not including tip.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: So a couple of things about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: One, I learned basically from this tweet, I guess it's New York where the price of the car wash has gotten completely out of control.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I had people say, oh, I'm in Kansas.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm in Illinois and it's eight dollars or twelve dollars.
[SPEAKER_03]: The basic car wash here now, at least where I am on Long Island, is like twenty five to twenty eight dollars.
[SPEAKER_03]: then there's tip, which brings it to, I actually, it was I, it was twenty seven, sixty two before tax for the basic color.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it came to like twenty nine, ninety nine, the interior, interior, interior, and exterior.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's the thing with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care at all about my car and the outside and what it looks like.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I go to the car wash, it's for the inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do I care if there's dirt on the outside?
[SPEAKER_03]: The car's just going to get dirty again.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think what had happened was I went to the beach and it was sand all over the car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Normally I would get the dust busted myself and clean the car.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's in the inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this was a bad sand situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing with the sand is you think you have it all and you don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I said I'm going to go to the real car wash to get the sand out of here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This would have been Sunday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was Sunday because I went to the beach Saturday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I couldn't care less about the outside.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish there was a college where they just did the interior.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now I know I can go to like the gas station and you put the five dollars a quarter's in there and you get the big vacuum.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's a hundred degrees.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to be doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like I said, normal dirt in the, you know, the normal dirt card dirt.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do with the, with the dust poster all go to the call the gas station and put the coins in.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I had a sand situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why I went.
[SPEAKER_03]: But apparently the price is a New York thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was the first thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I, and then there was one person to reply like, because I said, let me address, because I knew if I tweeted that, everyone's going to say do it yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not the point of the tweet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Someone's like, oh, so if we don't agree with you, you're an asshole, we're an asshole.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want everyone to agree with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not into this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's disagree.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's better.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I want everyone to agree with me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, I got one of the greatest replies in my Twitter lifetime to that tweet.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I bitched about the Kawash and a guy by the name of Mike Peligrini responded, get sales call or friend to do it for free.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, as well as that guy who has become your Butler, has he come to wash your car at all?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mitchell and Fort Lee.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I have not had him wash the car yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you though, like, well, I can't find a decent car wash because when I do take it there, they don't do it the right way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And most of the ones that I have found have been exterior only.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I got it, I have, I'm soul and a market for a good car washing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen an exterior only car wash.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: When you looked along, I, and they were all interior exterior correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: They might have been one or two that were exterior only, but yeah, we had one that was, and it also, it's a long way there, not just the weight in mind, but like, then to do the car the right way inside out, it takes a while, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm one of these dopes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want you to take as long as possible, because then I feel like you're doing a good job.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want the five minute in and out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me the half hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like, even if you're, even if you're thinking it,
[SPEAKER_01]: But they do always miss stuff, which is annoying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not their fall necessarily.
[SPEAKER_03]: It depends where you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is a place one minute from my house.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't go there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I go about fifteen minutes away, a couple of towns over where they have the good one, where they do a phenomenal job.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do miss the, you know, I wish they had the car wash as you drive through.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just remind them of the episode of Kirby.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't, I don't even want to say it with the C word.
[SPEAKER_03]: Suzy.
[SPEAKER_03]: with Cheryl.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: That it was the finale where everyone's cursing in the restaurant.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Susie walks in and she calls.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cheryl, call wash, see where.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I missed the ones where you drive through.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, one of the, I want to mention one quick thing about wrestling.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just, okay, I have never ever been a Bill Goldberg fan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the guy is like like Goldberg to me, the two wash wrestlers of my life, because I'm a Goldberg and Brock.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't say it and who Brock Lesnar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they can't do any promos and they have two moves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hogan at least could cut a promo back in the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll give you that.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just, but he's terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then Goldberg has this retirement match that nobody cares about on certain ice mean event and then he's given a speech and they cut them off and now he's all pissed off.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what I love about this is that man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, he ripped the WWE.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he thinks they shouldn't have cut off the speech.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not that WWE's fault.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're on NBC NBC has to show they have to air it ten o'clock like with commercials and it's all pre-pretty like they can't go over on Saturday night's main event.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not on Netflix.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's on NBC.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I liked it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually watched it the other night and I haven't watched these in a while, but I watched it and I liked it because I remember as the kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: when that would happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you see stuff in rings still happening in the credits with role and Vince is signing off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, no, no, no, what's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of reminded me of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're Goldberg still talking and they cut them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just went to commercial, whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I love about it is there's been this feud for years between bread hard and gold, like bread hard hates goldburg with a passion.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was goldburg gave bread hard a King Cushion back in those awful WCW days and basically ended his wrestling career because he kicked them in the head.
[SPEAKER_03]: So bread heart has for twenty years just trash is goldburg.
[SPEAKER_03]: when they cut the speech, I was like, bread heart must be loving this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it comes out, I just saw this today, that I guess during the match of Goldberg's match, he speared the referee Charles Robinson and the guy has like a broken rib.
[SPEAKER_03]: So basically, I need bread heart on a podcast, ASAP, just a rib Goldberg, because, you know, Goldberg, whatever he said.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always say, you want to get it on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't like him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember that bread heart?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not a good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, you think, and you come on a podcast, boy, we're on podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you ever go on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know anybody who hosts the podcast?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we're a little wrestling heavy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had back card owner, your friend on this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have someone next week who I don't want to say just because in case it doesn't happen, but we'll see.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you tell me about this one yet?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So now let's wrap it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get the, let me read a couple of emails.
[SPEAKER_03]: We only got, oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is what I have to address.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Savannah Banana stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still every day getting trolled by listeners, but it's a good trolling.
[SPEAKER_03]: People are having fun with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: People said, I have someone on Instagram, one of my Instagram, I followed Dakota Albert and sent me, this was Tuesday, he sent this.
[SPEAKER_03]: He sent me a photo from the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: He says, the Savannah bananas have a guy who plays the game in Stilts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then I had a reader, I listen to Joe McGrath on Instagram, send me the quote from Nick Castellanos, who was mad at the Brewer's picture, who only had five stars coming in.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's turning into the Savannah bananas.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the Savannah bananas stuff keep coming in.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got an email from a reader.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me pull up this email here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is from Jay and Columbus, Georgia.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love your podcast, listen weekly.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're getting too worked up over the Savannah, but at us.
[SPEAKER_03]: This isn't baseball.
[SPEAKER_03]: It sports entertainment.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's to baseball with the Harlem Globe Trotters Art of Basketball.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay if you don't get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with everything Jay said.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I, I, I was worked up about it when I first discussed it, but now the listeners are having a lot of fun with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all in good and fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I listen, the, they made, really baseball game is the Savannah bananas home run derby to determine who wins.
[SPEAKER_03]: So people can't get enough of the Savannah bananas.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other email that came in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Steve and New Jersey said, what is your world strategy?
[SPEAKER_03]: What is your starting word, long a streak?
[SPEAKER_03]: How long until you think it will be paywall?
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, do you play any of the New York Times games?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I play every single day, wordle connections.
[SPEAKER_03]: strands and letter box.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those are the four I play and I actually have an a daily reminder alert on my phone that goes off every day to remind me to play because I don't like missing a game because you have streaks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, my world strategy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really have a world strategy.
[SPEAKER_03]: The starting word I use I changed.
[SPEAKER_03]: I changed like I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: several months ago, but the word I use now to start is Poise, P-O-I-S-E, because that's three vowels.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the starting word I use Poise, and then my longest streak, I don't know, I don't know, I'd have to check, but you miss a day and then the thing resets, so it's a problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it will be paywall, he has that long, it'll be paywalled.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it will be paywalled.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, well, let me, let me replace that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think wordle itself will be payable.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I get to see all of the games at one point getting payable.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's already payable because you need a New York Times subscription to play the games.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you don't have the time subscription, if you have an athletic subscription or a time subscription, you get to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just want to say the person does connections.
[SPEAKER_03]: Connections are even more of a problem with their wordle because sometimes they throw these categories out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're absolutely absurd.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the wordle discussion.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I use to play words with friends.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember when that was the thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that stopped.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like, what, ten years ago, Ish?
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe over that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not that long ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I started that long ago, but people were still playing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, OK.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's dead now.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to speak for everyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't play it anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the New York Times games have become a very big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always text on my buddy diesel about connections.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get frustrated when they throw something like they sometimes like the heart like this forecategories and they're all different levels.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the hardest level they do like oh animals who's less who's the less the word the less letter of the word of an animal who lives in the jungle that's like the category.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just ridiculous that sometimes they get crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I I less thing
[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of my buddy diesel, him and I, cause sales not going to be on next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I want to cover this this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: My buddy diesel will be joining me in a couple of weeks.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go see Jerry Seinfeld at Foxwoods.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was lucky enough through family.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got two free tickets.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love to tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how I got the tickets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a little bit normal.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's I hook up or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first person I used to go with Sal because I know he loves loves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jerry.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I fell and he knows my buddy diesel love Jerry's I felt and I thought of Sal goes we have content fodder.
[SPEAKER_03]: But do you like to tell the people?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the date is the twenty six of July.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the date?
[SPEAKER_01]: The twenty six?
[SPEAKER_01]: Where we at?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's twenty six.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Saturday.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm on vacation next week, as you mentioned, and it would have been a perfect fit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, I couldn't even use the work excused and all that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But because I was on vacation, my wife wanted a little alone time for herself.
[SPEAKER_01]: She wants me to stay at home with our daughter while she could go for the weekend and visit her friend in Philadelphia, which happens to be that weekend, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I wish I could have done it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still could do it just to see the reaction.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not yet, but ask her, you know, knowing that like she made a big deal about this, such a big deal that she doesn't even want my mother to come over and help.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like she wants for whatever reason me to suffer or think I'm going to suffer by taking care of Sammy, which she does every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: She wants me to take care of the daughter for two days, something that has not happened before.
[SPEAKER_03]: But why can't your mother come over?
[SPEAKER_01]: because that's like cheating.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, of course, you have the help of your mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: She wants me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's why.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's messed up.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he just took the glasses off, he's get worked up.
[SPEAKER_01]: She wants me to experience which she does on a normal base on a daily basis.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's targeting me talking about the three jobs that I have and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll just get to stay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then she should take a day, we should go host F.A.N.
[SPEAKER_03]: from ten to two.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then goes to S and Y. deals with everyone on Twitter being mean and doing this podcast and
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct, correct, but she doesn't feel like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she wants to go enjoy herself, which I'm all good with, like go enjoy herself.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I believe it's less about her enjoying herself and more about she's trying to inflict pain and misery on me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I'm going to try to make the best of it, but I'm already in the hole because I missed that on side felt.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know on the way in on this because it could just, it's not going to be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think you had two approaches.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you could have really just gotten balls out and said, would you mind taking Sammy for the weekend, so I can go see side to other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, that's not going to go over.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I texted you and said, why don't you mom to come over Saturday?
[SPEAKER_01]: We go from five to midnight and you back home if if I told her I'm gonna I'm gonna do it to film it to show the reaction or at least audio record it
[SPEAKER_01]: The mom one would go over even worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do both.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, hey, Jimmy invited me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're gonna go, but either, is there a way you could take Sammy with you?
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's gonna flip out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you would think, but I told you, the point of it is for me, she wants me to endure the pain of what she's felt for four years, being a mom, I stayed home mom for four years to challenges of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's what you need to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: You need to get the snake back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Make up some story, the snake bit you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And see, this is what happened when you leave me alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can go away ever again.
[SPEAKER_01]: or or just get an extra ticket and bring Sam in a Jerry Seinfeld.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take her to Foxwood.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's over.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be cheating, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, she'd hate that, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sal is out for Jerry Seinfeld.
[SPEAKER_03]: enjoy the concert.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll miss it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I plan on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Salbone, be here next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you going away?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'll be home, but I just want, you know, I don't want to get one at exact.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, let's stay case.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll probably do a couple of different things with Lego land and aquarium.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of stuff that's on the table.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, this makes the whole thing even worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're doing a staycation next week where you're going to be home with the family Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and you can't slip out Saturday for, I don't know, six, eight hours to go see one of the greatest comedians in the history of the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I haven't asked you yet, but the tickets gone, but you should still ask.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now enjoy your vacation and we'll see you in a couple weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, talk to you later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take it.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, my many, many thanks to Scott Hansen, my thanks to Salacada, my thanks to you for listening quick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Reminder, we did a bonus pod this week with independent wrestler Matt Cardona.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Ben's Dan are a loft ski was on the pod last week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeremy, shop for me is being a couple of weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you missed any of those, give them a listen, subscribe to SI Media through me Traina, rate and review on Apple and again shoot me any emails you'd like read on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, that wraps it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stay safe and take care.