[SPEAKER_04]: You know the way these stories go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thirteen years ago, four struggling musicians made a deal with the devil.
[SPEAKER_04]: What were they chasing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Fame, riches, adoration, your classic devil fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened next?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know the way these stories go.
[SPEAKER_00]: The damned fools got it in their heads to try and outrun their end of the bargain.
[SPEAKER_06]: See, the devil is coming to collect his due, and he doesn't take kindly to those who can't cough up, which brings this story to the four of us here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, huddled in the back of a freight car on a train herdling to the one place the devil never catches.
[SPEAKER_06]: One final desperate shot at immortality.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if we're lucky, by the end of the night, one of us will still be left alive to tell the team.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello and welcome to my first dungeon.
[SPEAKER_05]: The tabletop role playing podcast that helps game masters learn new games and make each one better than the last and this is a special mini series of last train to Bremen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sponsored by Possum Creek Games and Steve Jackson Games.
[SPEAKER_05]: At time of release, the backer kit campaign for the physical release of last train to Bremen is live.
[SPEAKER_05]: So go check it out if you like what you hear.
[SPEAKER_05]: But for now, let me introduce our cast of characters, our Germanist persona, our doomed quartet.
[SPEAKER_05]: As ever, I am Brian Flarity, and joining me today is Elliott Davis.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello!
[SPEAKER_05]: To-choo, all aboard!
[SPEAKER_05]: To-choo!
[SPEAKER_05]: Jay Stroutlin!
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doomed!
[SPEAKER_05]: So doomed!
[SPEAKER_05]: And Shending to Sarah!
[SPEAKER_00]: Hiya!
[SPEAKER_07]: To-choo!
[SPEAKER_01]: Chew, Chew, I forgot to say Chew.
[SPEAKER_05]: Chew, Chew, indeed.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna be playing a little doom quartet in this game of last train to Bremney.
[SPEAKER_05]: You guys excited?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's fucking do this.
[SPEAKER_07]: Where's Bremney?
[SPEAKER_06]: Termining.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I knew that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: You asked the question for us.
[SPEAKER_05]: You wanted us to look bad with that question.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I want to see you if you got your ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that true?
[SPEAKER_00]: Germany?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what do you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: We also had the advantage of having just interviewed Carol about this game two days ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so you're cheating.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we're cheating.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was extremely cheating.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those be fair.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was in the same interview and I did not know the answer was true.
[SPEAKER_05]: I threw the answer was Europe.
[SPEAKER_05]: Last train of Bremen is a dramatic tragedy about a dysfunctional band of low lives.
[SPEAKER_05]: And as such, these characters are fucking each other and fucking each other over often at the very same time.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the thing we should start with as we do on most scenes of my first dungeon, are some safety tools for this game to talk about what we do and don't want to have in the fiction of this game.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the common safety tools, the book recommends the ones that we use here on my first dungeon are lines and vails and the X card.
[SPEAKER_05]: The X card is a very simple.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a kind of a rip-cored moment of if you experience something in the game that you're not that comfortable with, feel free to type an X in the chat as we're playing virtually or just throw an X over top of your chest with your hands or just say X card as we kind of end up doing on this show and we'll kind of reevaluate where we're going with the fiction and take it to places that we do want to go rather than places that we don't want to go.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then looking over two lines and veils for this game.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lines and veils are common safety tool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Lines are places we don't go.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are the line we go up to but don't go past.
[SPEAKER_05]: And veils are things we don't mind existing in the fiction but don't want to experience directly.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we don't mind that spiders are in the world, but we don't want to have close up descriptions of spiders.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because this is a game that we want to get pretty nasty and mean as these bandmates.
[SPEAKER_05]: The things that are in Pramden's game are smoking and drinking, sex drugs and rock and roll, band hookups and bad breakups, hedonism, debauchery, deceit, betrayal, vulgar language.
[SPEAKER_05]: Does anyone have any specific lines or veils that they'd like to talk about?
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh, I would like grooming.
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like when it comes to bands doing bad stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's an area that I feel like could be associated and let's not accuse any one of grooming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: This game that kind of implicitly there is some like band hookups happening.
[SPEAKER_05]: How do we feel about inter personal relationships or sex being depicted in the game?
[SPEAKER_00]: Excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Excited real life.
[SPEAKER_05]: Excited fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: And another thing that is prominent in those sex, there's drugs, there's rock and roll.
[SPEAKER_05]: How do people feel about drug use in this game?
[SPEAKER_06]: Fine with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, same.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, wait, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey, I'm on Molly every day.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I would also say veil suicide in suicidal ideation.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm fine with it existing and being connected to anybody's story, but not graphic descriptions of like suicide if that's a part of anybody's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah and as always as we talk about safety tools this is always an ongoing discussion so if midway through the game anyone feels like hey we're actually starting to touch on areas that I didn't realize I didn't want to go to just shout it out and we'll kind of renegotiate what these lines look like because we want our fiction the story that we tell to be fun for everyone at all times rule zero in this game is look out for yourself and look out for each other as the game unfolds which is a great middle rule zero for the game yeah catchback
[SPEAKER_04]: And now it is time to meet our dramatic persona.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are four characters in this game.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are the cockerel, the fiddle, and the PR, the face of the band.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is the cat, the bass guitar, and manager, the brains.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's the hound, the lead guitar, and lyricist, the heart of the band.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the muel, drummer and treasurer of the band.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who would like to be our cockerel for this game?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll stuff up and be the face of the band.
[SPEAKER_07]: And nobody wanted to do it to thank God.
[SPEAKER_07]: You said something.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank God.
[SPEAKER_05]: It feels right that the only actual musician in this game should be the face of the group.
[SPEAKER_05]: So thanks for joining me with justice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jay, if you don't mind looking at your character sheet, there's a bit of description of who the cockerel is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can you go ahead and read it to us?
[SPEAKER_05]: Put the pizzazz on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because this is like in character text, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of the band, they're all talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll claim credit when things go well, they'll point fingers when things go south.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, Kat's managerial skill, hounds away with words, mules head for numbers, none of it would have amounted to anything, if I hadn't drawn the schedules, if I hadn't let the candles and if I hadn't go to Kat into reading from that dusty book.
[SPEAKER_00]: When the devil appeared in that circle of shining flame, all the others flinched, but I held fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: My flare with the fiddle caught his attention, and my brazen sales pitch won him over.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am the one who shook the devil's hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am the one who signed his contract for the group.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I am the one who met him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to I.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, the rest of the band, they're all talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes conviction to live in notoriety.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's the Cockroll.
[SPEAKER_05]: The next step is the cat, the bass guitarist and manager of the brains of the band.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who would like to play the cat?
[SPEAKER_07]: I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shenuk, go ahead and tell us a little bit more about cat.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, okay, I will.
[SPEAKER_07]: Just a quick question.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're playing, we're playing, like, how real to the, our current world are we playing this?
[SPEAKER_07]: Aside from the devil bit?
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's real.
[SPEAKER_07]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_07]: That's real.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's, that happens.
[SPEAKER_06]: I feel like it's a vaguely normal world.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I think we might decide that later in Act One.
[SPEAKER_07]: Cool, cool, cool, cool.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll say we'll say we'll say what was your question or the animals are we with the choice?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_08]: But I can see how that might be not the fire.
[SPEAKER_08]: I wasn't going to do it, but I really wanted my voice to be like obviously I wasn't going to do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I really wanted my voice to be like, obviously I wasn't going to do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I really wanted my voice to be like, oh, we say I wasn't going to do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I really wanted my voice to be like, I really wanted my voice to be like, I really wanted my voice to be like, I really wanted my voice to be like, I really wanted my voice to be like, I really wanted my voice to be like, I really wanted my voice to be like, I really wanted my voice to be like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't,
[SPEAKER_07]: I feel like you just said that because of what I just said about the puppet, so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, try to back it up with you.
[SPEAKER_07]: You could just, excuse me, that's so, that's so fun.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's so fun.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right, fuck, no, we're not doing the puppet.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're a normal human person that can have normal human sex.
[SPEAKER_00]: For animal sex, I think.
[SPEAKER_07]: You don't tell me when kind of sex I have.
[SPEAKER_00]: So sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've never been one to get pinned down.
[SPEAKER_07]: The glamour, the stardom, my name up in lights.
[SPEAKER_07]: They were only ever reminders of the clock above my head.
[SPEAKER_07]: Slowly counting down.
[SPEAKER_07]: Making a deal with the devil, the literal fucking devil, from literal fucking hell.
[SPEAKER_07]: When is that ever turned out well for anybody ever?
[SPEAKER_07]: Nothing gold can stay.
[SPEAKER_07]: I simply saw the writing on the wall.
[SPEAKER_07]: So when I went back to the book, when I puzzled through its pages, when I found the loophole that would let the band escape his notice, I thought, why not take it?
[SPEAKER_07]: And it worked for a time.
[SPEAKER_07]: Things were good for a time.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if it hadn't all gone sideways, the devil would have been none the wiser.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next up is the Hound leading guitarist and lyricist the heart of the band.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think I'm gonna take on this roll.
[SPEAKER_05]: Borgbark.
[SPEAKER_00]: Borgbark.
[SPEAKER_05]: Borgbark baby.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was going well.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was all going so well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Another sold-out show with black barn, another night of the crowd roaring our names, cheering themselves whore singing along to our songs.
[SPEAKER_05]: Another celebration after hours.
[SPEAKER_05]: Once my brother cleared everyone out, just him and the band and a few close friends.
[SPEAKER_05]: When someone asked, how the hell did you get so big so quickly?
[SPEAKER_05]: And before anyone could react, the answer left from my mouth.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's funny you should mention hell.
[SPEAKER_05]: One careless slip of the tongue that's all it took for the rumors to start spreading.
[SPEAKER_05]: When the crowds began to thin when the suits stopped coming around, I knew it would only be a matter of time for the devil himself caught in.
[SPEAKER_05]: I put the target on the band's back and everything changed forever.
[SPEAKER_05]: And last but not least, we have the Mule.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's me, the drums, the treasureer of the band.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really delighted by the... The fact that the Hound gets the heart and cat gets the brains and you'll get treasure.
[SPEAKER_08]: What's your emotional loneliness?
[SPEAKER_05]: Even Cockro is the face.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone else is an element of a single corporeal body.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just played the drums and I count the fucking money.
[SPEAKER_07]: What if you were a puppet though?
[SPEAKER_07]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Can't take these fuckers anywhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: Leave it to them to dig a hole they can't climb out of.
[SPEAKER_06]: Leave it to them to drag me down with them.
[SPEAKER_06]: Leave it to them to bring trouble to my door in the dead of night.
[SPEAKER_06]: Watch the black burn go up in fucking flames and beg me to bribe some asshole at the train yard to look the other way.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that they can leave me hauling their instruments onto the back of this overstuffed, rickety ass box car while they all piss and moan.
[SPEAKER_06]: Their assholes got damn it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But what am I gonna do?
[SPEAKER_06]: Leave them out to dry?
[SPEAKER_06]: This trains the last shot at breaking free from the Devil's grip once and for all.
[SPEAKER_06]: This better be worth it.
[SPEAKER_06]: They better be worth it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Get over it, you fucking loser.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just count the money, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Fuck off, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: No one even likes you.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know.
[SPEAKER_07]: You were a puppet, dude.
[SPEAKER_06]: the contract.
[SPEAKER_06]: The inciting incident?
[SPEAKER_06]: That's easy.
[SPEAKER_06]: It all comes back to that night in the basement.
[SPEAKER_06]: The band was together already by then playing shit gigs here and there, but that dingy basement cemented us.
[SPEAKER_06]: It bound us together for real by blood and by ritual.
[SPEAKER_06]: None of that parlor trick shit, real candles, real book, real circle of chalk, and the real fucking devil showing up with a bargain to good to refuse.
[SPEAKER_06]: With the gift of hindsight, it's easy to say that signing the contract was a stupid choice, but as some of us might tell you, when all the roads ahead are bad, at least pick one that makes for a compelling story.
[SPEAKER_00]: The bar.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to believe the Black Barn lasted as long as it did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fifteen, maybe twenty years of Hound's brother working the bar with the same torn posters littering the walls, same cheap beer on top, same greasy couch with bad springs in the green room backstage.
[SPEAKER_00]: To others, the black barn is a little more than a dive bar, but it's the place that the four of us first met for drinks.
[SPEAKER_00]: The venue for our first hanging gig.
[SPEAKER_00]: The place we circled back to you again and again.
[SPEAKER_00]: For all that started them changed us, the black barn always stayed the same, a home of sorts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Makes no difference now, it's all gone up and smacked.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now that we each have chosen which playbook will be playing, which character we will be in this Dune Quartet, let us ask some questions about each other to kind of further develop our particular story of this Dune Quartet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Starting with the conqueror, on your character sheet, there are some questions.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're going to be asking your first one to the Mule, and then we're going to go to each character sheet in turn, doing the first question for everybody, then the second question for everybody, then the third.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mule, huh?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which of my petty vices do I insist on passing off as a business expense?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you're a wine, I think you drink.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you knock back bottles of cheap wine and you put it on the business expenses and you keep putting it on as different things but I keep noticing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely have a bottle or two on our writer.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, really quick, because we didn't do it before.
[SPEAKER_05]: What pronounces the cockroys?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is always hard for me because I always find it after five minutes of play in the character.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you need to decide after five minutes of play.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they need to introduce themselves to me before I know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I need you until you have to ask everybody to do it before you can answer the question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Very fair.
[SPEAKER_05]: That sounds fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's, we just all do that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what we play.
[SPEAKER_05]: Play to find out.
[SPEAKER_05]: Play to find out your gender identity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_05]: Can't.
[SPEAKER_05]: You'll ask your first question to the Cockroll.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was gonna shut up for just three seconds.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, I'm on one today.
[SPEAKER_06]: Too many eggs.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is better if you were a puppy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, too eggs thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's just too many for this, this young little lad.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, what am I doing?
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, to the cock.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Why did I beg you to take on our press and publicity?
[SPEAKER_07]: And I begged a lot, like months.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cat is the brains, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the other role?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, bass guitar and manager.
[SPEAKER_00]: Manager.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're overworked.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you, I think here's what's up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that you, um, thought you could do it all.
[SPEAKER_00]: You thought you could do all of the important jobs for the band.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you crashed and burned.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you tried to do PR, it was just like the last thing on the stack that you just couldn't handle.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, um, you know, it was either that or just completely burned out.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and makes sense to me.
[SPEAKER_05]: On to me, the Hound Cat.
[SPEAKER_05]: What did you see in me when we first started hooking up?
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that's easy.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you are the lead.
[SPEAKER_07]: No one respects me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Everyone respects you.
[SPEAKER_07]: You do absolutely nothing, but going away.
[SPEAKER_07]: I could get any face time or any respect as if I was seen with you.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I was absolutely using you to just get more time or respect more.
[SPEAKER_07]: acknowledgement of my work that I do for this this little thing and because you're so happy go lucky everyone loves you but I'm the manager I do all the needy gritty stuff except for the publicity and whatnot but everything else is on me you're just hot and you say fun nice things and you're up there I'm the base player too like I without me the band doesn't function but no you have a fucking guitar and you might like the lyrics and all that shit
[SPEAKER_07]: So it was purely out of, uh, you know, using you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, at least I'm hot.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was kind of bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Friend Islanders is the train to Bremen.
[SPEAKER_06]: Last one, actually.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we're not playing friend Islanders.
[SPEAKER_05]: Friend Islanders, like, let's like table up real playing game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm scared I have to go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hound.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: What bothers you most about my friendship with your brother?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you guys get too drunk together and spend and buy other people too many drinks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you spend the band's money on things we don't need to spend.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's a lot of like go into the bar.
[SPEAKER_05]: You guys roll up and you say you're just going to get one jamas in each and then one jamas in turns into three turns into two pines of Guinness turns into tequila shots for the bar and then of course you know that the small troop of like hot people come over and they see that you're buying shit and then all of a sudden
[SPEAKER_05]: all the the money that we got for the the gig is out the door and down people's goals.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's networking really when you think about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not networking when when they there's like people in here who have no idea who we are they came in after our set they don't like music.
[SPEAKER_05]: They say that top four is the only thing they want to listen to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, you do that, and my bottle of wine is a problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you drink the entire bottles to yourself.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's different.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a sharing thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: We do social drinking, me and Hound's brother.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's crazy, because the Hound's brother's also a puppet dude, so that doesn't exist.
[SPEAKER_06]: They swear to God.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's bad because at this point, it's, it's, it has to be in the edit.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's been enough jokes about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's been enough jokes about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: The fucking devil's gonna show up as a goddamn puppet in the next three.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the, the, the actu twisters that we've been up at the whole time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's me.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, back to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hound.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, hello.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do I keep doing to land on your brother's bad side?
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but you're brother right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, what do you do to land on my brother's bad side?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I think my brother is a big fan of me, like he's very protective of me, and you keep, because you're doing all the marketing and the promotional stuff, you keep putting your face like front and center, like it's very clear that you're putting like you as the face, and then the band around you, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whereas, it his mind, he's like lead guitar,
[SPEAKER_05]: should be at least equal to the face or a little bit front of.
[SPEAKER_00]: So just like kind of a fundamental misunderstanding of how this whole thing works sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_05]: You talked to my brother with that mouth.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying I'm just saying I'm literally the face.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think he doesn't think he should be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he should do PR.
[SPEAKER_08]: We're already getting a little sniffy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you getting a little sniffy?
[SPEAKER_05]: It starts fun, but it's going to get bad.
[SPEAKER_07]: To the mill, what dream for the band did we want to share?
[SPEAKER_07]: That we have long since outgrown.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, this is making like a time period choice.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if anybody disagrees with this, please let me know.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I think we wanted to be on MTV, like have a music video on MTV.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think this may be what late nineties early, two thousands.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: We all were in the same bar when we first saw a video killed the radio star.
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, we are fucking minds.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I think you and me uh cat or like that's gonna be us.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I bought a camera the next day.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's one of those big like Panasonic guys.
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to have like the special tapes for I didn't know how to edit.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we just filmed a bunch of footage in linear order.
[SPEAKER_05]: None of them left last sync at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Classic.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cockerel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why am I writing songs specifically to spite you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because I am a better lyricist than you are, and I told you, and uh, and it was, I was like, you can, I'm happy for you to keep doing lyrics because I don't really want to do them, but I am just better at it than you, so I think you've got something to prove.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do we sing any of your songs or are you just claiming this sight unseen?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think everybody just kind of knows from like a vibe check.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I fully claimed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think what, you know, it's just like, it's... Did you release like a solo EP or something?
[SPEAKER_00]: A hundred percent I released a solo EP.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like I'm still kind of waiting for it to catch on, but like it is really good kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you sell the solo EP at our merch table?
[SPEAKER_00]: I give you guys like ten percent or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fucked.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually a super good deal if you think about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: The math does not work out there.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're splitting the focus.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're trying to pitch our band not just you.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all pieces of the whole thing of the, you know, like limbs of a body.
[SPEAKER_00]: your house is called an incredible lyricist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your house is called me alone with no one else.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_00]: My house is called Phantom Lim.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cat.
[SPEAKER_06]: Which key part of your business strategy have I always push back on?
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, I have an important question.
[SPEAKER_06]: How successful are we?
[SPEAKER_06]: Fairy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Very successful.
[SPEAKER_06]: Isn't that the thing?
[SPEAKER_06]: Isn't that the devil made us really successful?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, just confirming that we're very successful.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have pitched you to give me the money to start a... I don't think this fits for the nineties.
[SPEAKER_07]: A prank TV show.
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you real laughing?
[SPEAKER_07]: You haven't even heard the best part yet.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry, is there a best part coming after the phrase prank TV show?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think they could do a good part after.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, look at the best part.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, this is the best part.
[SPEAKER_07]: We get a private jet, okay?
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we basically tell our celebrity friends, hey, like we're gonna all go to Australia and we're like leaving from New York.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just adding money on a calculator.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just sitting there like, like, dude, it's time to cook, let him cook, let him cook.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's all fitted with cameras and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we're a crazy bunch of rock stars.
[SPEAKER_07]: So our private jet is like, you know, sometimes it's a regular plane.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sometimes it's like, there's a bunch of hot tubs with seat belts in them and you're just in a hot tub the entire time.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so we put them on this plane and we're like, all right, we'll, you know, we'll get on with them or like, you know, one of us will be there.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it'll be a couple of our paths.
[SPEAKER_07]: And like, oh, we're going to Australia.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's gonna be so much fun.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we fly up and then for the next like, seventeen hours, it's like a terrible flight.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like the plan's going like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then it's going crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the water's getting everywhere.
[SPEAKER_07]: And everyone's having a bad time.
[SPEAKER_07]: And there's a bunch of like flimplams.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we land.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then they get off the plane and they're still in New York and we go, ha, got your ass and it's funny because they were on a plane for seventeen hours, had a really bad time and we didn't take them anywhere.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we make a lot of money because it's a fun TV show.
[SPEAKER_07]: And our music's in it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'll crunch the numbers.
[SPEAKER_06]: See if that's something we can do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's a good idea.
[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe next quarter.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Definitely crunch the numbers because that could be the thing that elevates us to the next level.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, brilliant.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got a like cross-polar.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's this guy first in the picture that's starting a show called punk and we can beat him to the punch with this plane show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a plane show.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not a prank show.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just a plane show.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's no plane the prank show.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a single prank show.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and the plane will change.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's the fun part of like the plane will change.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like the inside will change.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like sometimes the prank will change.
[SPEAKER_07]: The prank is basically the same.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll take people to work on a Malaysian.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me stop you right there.
[SPEAKER_06]: One episode of this comes out.
[SPEAKER_06]: None of our friends ever get on a plane with us ever.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, okay, but here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sometimes the plane does go to where you want to go.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like maybe a few of the times.
[SPEAKER_07]: It does.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you can only shoot.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like a lot of it.
[SPEAKER_06]: So sometimes we're the line flights to Australia.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sometimes you actually are going Australia sometimes.
[SPEAKER_06]: You have a bad time.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have a bad record.
[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll already have ten episodes before anyone sees the first one.
[SPEAKER_05]: So just like ten, seventeen hour international flights on a hot tub plane.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's it's okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm playing machine.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's just focus on the music.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, but our music's going to be in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can make a drink.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a music video.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, we have a music video thing and the house camera Yeah, we don't we've already got like half of this stuff like this is all right off now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we just write it off Not a video in this group knows what are right off it.
[SPEAKER_06]: You just write it off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you just don't pay for it Just like my bottom line.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's basically free.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cockrope.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, basically free
[SPEAKER_07]: Also, we should get four puppets of us.
[SPEAKER_06]: No?
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Budget meeting over.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cat.
[SPEAKER_07]: Damn it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What did we end up doing with the book that summoned the devil?
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, uh, we tried burning it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Didn't burn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: We, we tried blowing it up, didn't blow up.
[SPEAKER_07]: We tried giving it to your mother.
[SPEAKER_07]: Didn't work.
[SPEAKER_01]: My mother.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, your mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Then gave it to my mother.
[SPEAKER_07]: She didn't want it.
[SPEAKER_07]: It what way did the first one not work.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, giving it to.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a God's mother.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like you gave it to her and it just appeared back in her hands.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, it did, and then turns out the Cockrell now is two mothers, one's demon, one's a regular.
[SPEAKER_07]: So this is a whole other ripple that we both do with this story, of course, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's made life pretty complicated, we need to be honest.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so I felt bad so I gave it to my mother.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's also a demon version of my mother and a regular version because it's reciprocal in that sense of our relationship.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I for not, if you will.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_07]: So now we just keep it in the back trunk of the tour bus under the, under the, the bibles and stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Under the bibles?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Did we buy the Bible specifically for this purpose?
[SPEAKER_05]: Did we think it would be like crazy?
[SPEAKER_07]: We brought this tour bus used.
[SPEAKER_07]: This used to be a Christian rock man's tour bus and they were just in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, we're not a Christian rock man.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're not a Christian rock man.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was just if they haven't shown out the Bible's and turns out it came in handy to continue the devil book.
[SPEAKER_05]: We made deals with the devil's five mirror albums.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's buried in Bibles in the trunk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, buried in Bibles in the back of the bus.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, buried in Bibles in the back of the bus.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a song now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I really like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like that fits in a vampire movie too of like you just surround a vampire in Bibles.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paper Mashi.
[SPEAKER_05]: Paper Mashi, a vampire with all Bible pages.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how you feel.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's pretty good actually, I'm a player.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_07]: The Hound.
[SPEAKER_07]: Why did I break things off with you?
[SPEAKER_05]: I was getting serious and I wanted to tell the band that we were together and make that like...
[SPEAKER_05]: Make it make it Facebook a fit or this is this is early odds make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it make it
[SPEAKER_05]: It I came to you very hat in hand and very excited and I was pretty sure that you felt the same way and that this was kind of a formality.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think I think you just said no.
[SPEAKER_03]: brutal.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's exactly what I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: I then played it off of like, yeah, I didn't actually want that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was just fucking mad.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's it's chill.
[SPEAKER_05]: We can just go back to what we were doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that sounds great to me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Sounds great to me, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a follow-up question.
[SPEAKER_00]: How obvious are the songs?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how obvious is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it through your songwriting?
[SPEAKER_05]: All of them have a cat pun in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: You really are the work versus.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I say pun when I meant was metaphor.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why that's why the cockles are about a lyricist.
[SPEAKER_05]: I wrote the song Cat Scratch Fever and then I was like a little too on the nose and I threw it out and that picked up by
[SPEAKER_05]: The person who wrote Cat's Ratch Fever.
[SPEAKER_05]: We'll tell you.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all we all did.
[SPEAKER_00]: We all know is, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two, three.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my Ted Newgeon.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ted Newgeon.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ted Newgeon found my lyrics for Cat's Ratch Fever and then.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, fix it in first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cut me almost say and steal it in.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want stealing it too.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's probably dead.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm surprisingly good band.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not surprising, they're incredible.
[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like it's just like every time I listen to a full skill again, I'm like, these are all bangers.
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought you guys just had like one or two songs.
[SPEAKER_00]: They only wrote hits, it's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: We could learn a thing or two.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mule is... Which unpaid dead of mine, do you still dangle over my head?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh!
[SPEAKER_06]: I think you ended up in jail overnight nine to bail you out with band money.
[SPEAKER_06]: What did I do?
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was like stupid property damage.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was like you tried to do something cool and you like broke a shop window or like knocked a fence over or something.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you fucked a puppet.
[SPEAKER_06]: You did not pump up like this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let me be clear.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think we were touring in some like real rizzi town and you smashed a store front window like doing a cool flip or something.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I tried to do the flip.
[SPEAKER_05]: I tried to do the flip when you run up the wall and go back flip, but I did it on the glass and just went right through it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it into the town puppet store.
[SPEAKER_06]: into the public store yeah the ritsy puppet store and you've you called me because you knew I had the money and uh and I bailed you out and it's right off yeah dude it's a right off like right off you went to jail no being knows what right off means nobody knows nobody knows if you do it in the spirit of rock and roll and you are a band then it is a right vehicle it was literally for you want to talk to our accountant about this aren't you the accountant
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I'm the treasurer.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're different roles.
[SPEAKER_07]: Why are we paying an accountant for you the treasurer?
[SPEAKER_07]: That's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_06]: So true.
[SPEAKER_07]: Seems like a random one.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we should talk about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, budget meeting.
[SPEAKER_07]: Budget meeting.
[SPEAKER_00]: No more budget meetings.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cockroll.
[SPEAKER_06]: What one argument when you pushed it brought us fully to blows?
[SPEAKER_00]: Me?
[SPEAKER_00]: I get the sense that you play things a little safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps?
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know that it started as an argument so much as like teasing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think when I became like fully fledged PR, I started to make it be more of a thing that's like
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, when the fans pick their favorite, they're not going to go for the safest option.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to go for someone who's throwing themselves into a store window by accident.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so... I did it on purpose.
[SPEAKER_00]: On purpose, even.
[SPEAKER_00]: Either way, the dangers there and you don't really have any danger.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it reflects on all of us really if you're not taking risks and being fun to be honest.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think when you when you said this, you'll just stood up, walked over the room, and punched you in the face.
[SPEAKER_06]: You want danger?
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You would have guessed what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's like the hound on fire now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: The conicals, the face.
[SPEAKER_02]: We literally can't hit the face.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the cockerel's the face, not you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to do anything, don't hit me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get in the fire, Hound.
[SPEAKER_02]: I went through the store window.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was already the most badass of us.
[SPEAKER_02]: And on the best lyricist, Evan Lee guitar, and I should be out front with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm letting you guitar on fire right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: No!
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still paying the installments on this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should definitely be covering that from the end.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're way too successful.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a ride off.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is a ride off.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: We can collect the fire insurance money.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do like this guitar though.
[SPEAKER_05]: We said someone else is a guitar in fire.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: I said cats guitar in fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's my big, you idiot.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't tour with any less than five guitars per hour.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't need any guitars.
[SPEAKER_05]: Honestly, three of my guitars were tuned to the exact same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, what if you break a string on one?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I suppose.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got to have redundancies.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got to have redundancy on top of redundancy, except for accounting.
[SPEAKER_05]: We just need one treasure we don't also need in the accountant.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you really take a little bit.
[SPEAKER_07]: Different roles.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're different roles.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't see how they're different roles.
[SPEAKER_05]: Does the treasure we're dealing with money?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Does the accountant deal with money?
[SPEAKER_06]: in a way.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean in a way?
[SPEAKER_06]: Same role.
[SPEAKER_06]: They don't deal directly with the money.
[SPEAKER_06]: They I tell them the money.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what are they telling me?
[SPEAKER_06]: How are they doing that?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're counting money.
[SPEAKER_06]: We owe the government the IRS.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to pay the government.
[SPEAKER_00]: We made a deal with the devil.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a right off.
[SPEAKER_06]: We made a deal with the devil to be really fucking good and successful.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if we end up in jail for tax fraud, that doesn't fucking matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll make another deal.
[SPEAKER_06]: You guys are giving me ulcers.
[SPEAKER_05]: The last bit of act one is now that we have our character, we've asked each other questions.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've kind of defined the brist, tinderbox of the relationship of this band.
[SPEAKER_05]: On each of our character sheets, there are a number of secrets, and we each get to choose one.
[SPEAKER_05]: These secrets will not be revealed until we are down to our final die in the Liar's dice game.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to be playing momentarily.
[SPEAKER_05]: And with each secret there is a special ability that you can do.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, so take a look at your character sheets and choose one of those three secrets.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't need to reveal it.
[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, you should not reveal it, but feel free to let that secret influence your role play throughout the session.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I have my secret.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all really juicy.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm definitely not a puppet.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you're definitely not a puppet.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: When it says like once per game, that just means like once in the entirety of our session.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So you can't do it at any time.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's only when you get down to your final.
[SPEAKER_05]: So once you get down to your final die, you will reveal your secret and then that power is active.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have to use it right away, but yeah, you reveal your secret and your special ability after you lose your first two dice, you can hint at them during play, but don't reveal them until instructed.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's dive in now to act two.
[SPEAKER_05]: The train.
[SPEAKER_05]: The boxcar that the four of us sit in now is a callous, uncharitable thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is packed with pallets of freight, paper goods, metal ingots, sacks of grain, lumber.
[SPEAKER_05]: When you will bribe the man at the train you're into let us sneak aboard, we did not have the luxury of being choosy.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've pushed one pallet against the wall to carve out what little elbow room we can.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cat had the foresight to snag a lantern and a book of matches.
[SPEAKER_05]: Our instrument cases are stacked on top of each other as a makeshift table.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is almost enough room for all four of us to sit uncomfortably.
[SPEAKER_05]: The trains swaying and rolling have settled in now.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are a low constant rum.
[SPEAKER_05]: cockerel paces as much as one can pace in here.
[SPEAKER_05]: Occasionally through the slats in the side of the car, Hound can see distant lights in the darkness.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is little to do here besides sit and wait and bicker about all the choices we took that let us down this sorry path.
[SPEAKER_05]: And with that, we enter Act II, the box car.
[SPEAKER_05]: In Act II, we're going to be experiencing some memories.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to be playing this game properly.
[SPEAKER_05]: And how do we do that?
[SPEAKER_05]: With a game of Liar's dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Heck yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Quick explanation for everybody about Liar's dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: All of us have three dice that we're going to be rolling.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there is one additional dice in the center called the Devil's dice, which will indicate a wild number, a wild card number.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you've seen parts that they can ever be into, you are familiar with Liars Dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: But for those who don't know, Liars Dice is a game of bluffing and gambling.
[SPEAKER_05]: We will all be rolling all three of our dice and keeping those results secret from one another.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then in turn, we will make the making bets on the totality of the dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: So for instance, we all were rolled the dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: If I started off, I might say, within all twelve of our dice, there are two ones.
[SPEAKER_05]: After that, we move around in a circle.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the next person can make an increasing bet, either increasing the number of dice, so three ones, or increasing the value of the number.
[SPEAKER_05]: So two, two instead of two ones.
[SPEAKER_05]: In addition, the devil's dice is a wild card number.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if I roll a three, that means all threes would also be counted.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if I'm trying to guess how many ones are in there, we count all the ones as well as all the threes.
[SPEAKER_05]: As we're going around, if someone chooses to name the number of the devil's dice as part of their bet, that wild card ceases to be wild, and now it is locked in to being just a number.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if three was the wild card number, and Shenuky decided to say three threes, now there are no more wild cards.
[SPEAKER_05]: So if we get further on in the game and then all of a sudden someone gets rid of wild cards, it's gonna fuck up somebody.
[SPEAKER_05]: As we go, at any point, if one of the players believes that the bet that was made, the claim that was made is not possible, or is not valid, they can challenge.
[SPEAKER_05]: At this point, we all reveal how many dice there are of the chosen number.
[SPEAKER_05]: If the challenger is wrong, they lose a dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: If the challenger is right, the person that called Bolsheet is right, then the person who made the claim, who made the bet, loses a die.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you win one of these contest, please move a dice to the side and or mark it in some way that'll play a big part in the end game of this game.
[SPEAKER_05]: As we have these contest between a person who made a bet and a challenger, there will be scenes that we play out between those two people.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, whoever the winner and the loser of this bet will have a scene kind of dictated by our character shapes a little bit.
[SPEAKER_05]: And any questions on Lyra's dice?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a pretty easy game.
[SPEAKER_05]: The second we start playing it if you have any questions, it becomes pretty clear what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shinnick, why don't you get us started?
[SPEAKER_05]: To start us off, go ahead and roll the devil's dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Fire.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so fours are wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone go ahead and roll your three dice and keep the results secret for everyone else.
[SPEAKER_07]: Whoa, three, six is.
[SPEAKER_05]: I said keep that secret.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe I'm lying.
[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, Shenuk, what is your opening wager in this game of Lairstice?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, cat.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like a calm down.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's Christmas.
[SPEAKER_07]: The opening wager is three once.
[SPEAKER_07]: Three, three.
[SPEAKER_05]: Six threes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Six threes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Keep in mind there's wilds too.
[SPEAKER_06]: There are wilds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's so all the dice in play right now, so.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but six threes means there's half the dice.
[SPEAKER_00]: As threes or four is, cause four is the devil's die.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna... Which is really a third nevermind.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a mouth guy, sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna say bullshit.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: To live.
[SPEAKER_00]: You absolutely hit her.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one could roll a three here today, or a four.
[SPEAKER_07]: I rolled a three.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And no fours?
[SPEAKER_07]: Not a single four.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wow, not a single four, you fool.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is why you're not the heart.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Jay, you're gonna lose one of your dice, which means going forward, you're only gonna have two dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: So less information for this game of Lair's dice.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Shinook, you will just mark one dice or put one dice to the side.
[SPEAKER_05]: Put one extra die to the side that will come into play with your spoils.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, take your spoils.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because I lost a die, I go ahead and do a memory.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: You lost a die, you lost a friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Already?
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: And Cockro, what is your memory, like prompt from your character sheet for your first dies?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if these are supposed to be mixed together or if there are two options, but my prompts are on the spot and overnight sensation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we know that you came begging for me to take things off your plate and we knew that it was PR and you had been trying to hoist a PR plan that involves hound front and center.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I took over, I mean, I just had a better idea and it was to put me front and center.
[SPEAKER_00]: And funnily enough, it worked really well, really well way better than it ever had.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this was like maybe even just a little bit before our deal with the devil actually went through that we actually just started getting better paying gigs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we went from like a hundred bucks a night to maybe two, fifty totals split between us and after before guests.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, hey, and taxes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And oh, we don't pay it's a right off to it's a right off.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a right off like
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think as far as becoming an overnight sensation, I mean, it really just hit when I started making me front and center.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the choices that I made for PR were, you know, for merch and for posters and for our online presence, whatever it was back in the nineties.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like my face was like three times the size of everybody else's and the rest were just like floating.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of blind me.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean it worked.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's funny because that's not how I remember this.
[SPEAKER_07]: I definitely need help with a PR plan, but I gave you a plan and all you did was execute, but you did change one fundamental thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: you made yourself the face when in my plan it was the hound and I you changed everything you didn't do any work you just did you took the thing I gave you because I didn't have time to send out the emails make the calls but you made yourself the face so don't lie to my fucking face and say you had a better plan you stole my shit and now
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: You have a solo career budding.
[SPEAKER_06]: So started to go well around the time we made a deal with the devil, anybody?
[SPEAKER_06]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was before it was slightly before that it was slightly before that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not that I had a better plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just did it better.
[SPEAKER_07]: You just took my plan, changed one thing, and did it better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that one thing was all it took apparently.
[SPEAKER_05]: you know we could just like cut and paste out your face and just kind of rearrange the all the posters and see if there's a change like maybe it we did pound it's a little it's a little light for that but I mean maybe we didn't bring with cockerel as the face but maybe we'd do even better with me as the face
[SPEAKER_07]: I just want to say it's probably at here still like a really good plan if someone that plays the fiddle is the face of a band.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean let's not stop around the fiddles the most boring of the instruments.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: You play bass.
[SPEAKER_07]: Unless you forget Charlie Daniels also.
[SPEAKER_07]: Fuck Charlie Daniels.
[SPEAKER_07]: And what's wrong with the base?
[SPEAKER_07]: If you guys didn't have me, the span wouldn't function.
[SPEAKER_05]: Fuck, I mean really Daniels.
[SPEAKER_07]: Fucking okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can barely hear the base.
[SPEAKER_07]: What do you mean you'd function okay?
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's, I get, I hit the bass a couple, I kick the bass a couple more times.
[SPEAKER_06]: We don't even need you on stage.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you guys stupid?
[SPEAKER_05]: You all music works?
[SPEAKER_05]: It's funny, when I listen to music, like, I kind of have to listen for the bass.
[SPEAKER_05]: You just hear the guitar, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean a fucking light, all your instruments.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's play the game.
[SPEAKER_07]: I like the guitar on fire.
[SPEAKER_06]: Relax.
[SPEAKER_06]: Stop it dude.
[SPEAKER_06]: We gotta gig.
[SPEAKER_06]: We don't have a gig.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're running from the devil.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have a gig in the future.
[SPEAKER_05]: There will be a gig.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, watch me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Brother, you brought five of your guitars.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: For the gig.
[SPEAKER_06]: And man, be low them all on the car.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, I'm shaking my dice.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who rolls devil's eye?
[SPEAKER_06]: Is it the loser who leads?
[SPEAKER_06]: Or the loser who leads?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, loser who leads.
[SPEAKER_05]: Luser leads.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm so Jay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, easy with the terminology.
[SPEAKER_07]: What?
[SPEAKER_07]: Jay or loser?
[SPEAKER_05]: Got him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: Truly savage.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cockroats, pronouns are they.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, what's the wild?
[SPEAKER_00]: uh the devil's die has landed on three oh three so i also lead the bet right yeah okay let's start with an easy two twos i'm gonna say five twos six twos holy six twos call it call it call it
[SPEAKER_06]: Six.
[SPEAKER_07]: Six.
[SPEAKER_06]: Six.
[SPEAKER_07]: Six.
[SPEAKER_01]: Six.
[SPEAKER_07]: Six.
[SPEAKER_06]: Not, not, everybody counted their wilds?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I was doing my side.
[SPEAKER_06]: I had one.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that's still five.
[SPEAKER_06]: Still five.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because I had two.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's five.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I didn't really.
[SPEAKER_07]: Six.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or three.
[SPEAKER_06]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_07]: I rolled three.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody's getting a little test.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: you guys remember the party we threw after our first arena gig yeah i mean yeah you can't really forget i think like that i mean that we didn't even make it back to the hotel we just got out into the parking lot it was fucking cold but we didn't care because we had people who had brought alcohol like they were tailgating and we were just doing shots
[SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, doing a couple other things.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I remember waking up face down in snow in that parking lot, and I've never fucking felt worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's crazy because it was summer.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was cocaine.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was cocaine.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there was a little cocaine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where were we that it was snowy?
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, Canada somewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: Canada is somewhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of described as most of Canada.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's actually all Canada.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody relax.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, we can hit stop island next.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you're fucking dare.
[SPEAKER_06]: It is Cockroll, Canon, Canadian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, where were we, Cockroll?
[SPEAKER_06]: We were near where you grew up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, if we were playing a show or two in Canada, it would either be Vancouver, Toronto, and since there was snow, it wasn't Vancouver, so we were in Toronto.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god, do you have to be such a prick about it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying, why are we touring in February anyway?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's such a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one even comes out to show this, especially not in Canada.
[SPEAKER_06]: Whatever, man.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just a nice fucking night.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was a nice fucking night, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Forget it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought it was the summer.
[SPEAKER_06]: You would, Kat.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was that the night you tried to start a fight with someone?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they wouldn't fight back?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know how you get sometimes when you have a couple.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just throw them punches around.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, you do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the only time you like to be a little dangerous.
[SPEAKER_06]: Little dangerous.
[SPEAKER_06]: Dangerous.
[SPEAKER_06]: Uh-oh.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cockroll once danger again, everybody.
[SPEAKER_06]: Newslash.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're a band.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're a rock band in the nineties.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're a fucking business, all right?
[SPEAKER_07]: I like the drums on fire.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm rolling the devil's die.
[SPEAKER_06]: Two.
[SPEAKER_05]: Two's wild.
[SPEAKER_06]: We got you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Three, five's.
[SPEAKER_04]: Damn, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Four, five's.
[SPEAKER_06]: Four, six's.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're down two dice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bullshit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh god, damn it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Five, six's in a game play.
[SPEAKER_05]: whatever.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you're always so full of bullshit, so I figured probably here too.
[SPEAKER_05]: Excuse me?
[SPEAKER_07]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to take that again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yikes!
[SPEAKER_04]: You'd be saying nice things, and you know, tell someone they look good, and you take them out for a nice time, and then you wake up in the morning, and someone's not there.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not just again.
[SPEAKER_05]: You might kind of put your heart out on your sleeve, and that person just says, ah!
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you talking about
[SPEAKER_07]: when you asked me to go steady with you, what do you, fifty?
[SPEAKER_05]: Excuse me, if I wanted a little romance, I wanted to make it like nice and, you know, and really like set up the terms of the romance.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a danger for you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you kidding?
[SPEAKER_07]: A nice time, you took me to PF Changs and a dive bar, and then we fucked.
[SPEAKER_07]: What do you talk about romance?
[SPEAKER_07]: We had a nice time.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a great night.
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you?
[SPEAKER_07]: That is PF change, beer and sex.
[SPEAKER_07]: Those are all the food groups.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's a fun time.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not a romantic.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're having fun now.
[SPEAKER_07]: I dabble in sex.
[SPEAKER_07]: I dabble.
[SPEAKER_01]: Huh?
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, are we coming after my sex life now?
[SPEAKER_07]: Why not?
[SPEAKER_01]: To find dabble, what's a dabble?
[SPEAKER_07]: I have sex with people when I feel like I want to have sex.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to be, I'm where rock stars.
[SPEAKER_07]: The one thing that we have is infinite sex with people.
[SPEAKER_07]: Why am I going to go steady with this fifty-year-old guitarist who is hopelessly in love and thinks PF chains is a good burst date spot?
[SPEAKER_06]: Hound is thirty-five at best.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's definitely in his twenties I'm just insulting him because he talks like he's like I don't know
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, listen, you can say whatever you want, but I remember that I remember that I remember that dinner PF tanks and it was great we held hands over eight food and I remember the beer that we got I got a Guinness and you got a corona and then we switched midway through and we agreed that half and half is good and then the first time that we fucked
[SPEAKER_05]: We stared right in each other's eyes and it was then what did I say no it was fun and it was fun and it was no and then you said this was nice you said nice I said it was nice and then
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that where the song title comes from?
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Also, guess where it's bitten my mouth comes from?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, we saw this and that was a private one.
[SPEAKER_06]: On the same album, Jesus Christ.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right after each other.
[SPEAKER_07]: Jesus.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not mutually exclusive to have a nice time having sex with somebody and also not wanting to
[SPEAKER_07]: Go steady with them.
[SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't that you just... They got a stop saying, go steady, am I right?
[SPEAKER_06]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_06]: How else do you say it?
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you want to say?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to date?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you can say it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you want to date?
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you want to be with me?
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you want to go out?
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you want to be exclusive?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, let's talk about our relationship.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like what?
[SPEAKER_06]: You want to fight this pig?
[SPEAKER_01]: What was that one?
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, last thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: What did I say?
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you say pop it?
[SPEAKER_07]: Pop it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pop it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck, fuck it.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's right off.
[SPEAKER_05]: Listen, all I know is I saw the way you looked at me and I saw the way that I looked at you in the reflection of your eyes and that wasn't just nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: Was it like this and then you'll make fuck me eyes at hand?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh honey.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, mule.
[SPEAKER_06]: Those eyes didn't mean what you thought they meant.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those eyes mean one thing and I love you and I want to be with you together forever.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I think that we should let them down and do this.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_07]: We should be nicer to you because before this band you were in a Christian rock band and you have a little bit of a older idea of what love is and sex and I'm sorry that I took advantage of that.
[SPEAKER_07]: But, grow the fuck up.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're rock stars now.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can fuck whoever you want.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, we're probably going to be dead soon.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I'm also going to be dead soon.
[UNKNOWN]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_05]: Listen, you can lie to yourself, but you can't lie to me, and you can't lie to the Lord above.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I actually want to be like that.
[SPEAKER_08]: That was fun for the moment.
[SPEAKER_08]: Listen man, I don't know what to tell you where you're You want you want a life that I can't keep you
[SPEAKER_07]: until you can open your eyes to the possibility that I just wanted to fuck you for the cloud.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what to tell you.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what to tell you, but you started fucking me before there was really a reason too.
[SPEAKER_05]: We were just starting to get big.
[SPEAKER_05]: We weren't looking at my PR plan.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was all there!
[SPEAKER_07]: Cockerel sold in the plane it says fuck the hound in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I swear to god Listen, all I'm saying is you didn't put my face on the front until after we had sex and you said it was nice and you know How did that play into your fucking plane show?
[SPEAKER_07]: the plane show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: A new plane every week.
[SPEAKER_07]: The same old plane every week.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, the plate.
[SPEAKER_07]: I thought you're talking about the show we did on plane, but you're talking about the plane prank show, which is a very good thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no, not the headlining show we did on a plane.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a different thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, that's a different thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Really not our best show.
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not our best show.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was tough.
[SPEAKER_05]: That was the best show.
[SPEAKER_05]: It acoustics are really bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: We should have just done the acoustics.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's six or bad?
[SPEAKER_06]: The crowd was, you know, seated on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on the ground.
[SPEAKER_05]: Motion sickness was really prevalent through it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's tough when you have to play facing the same direction as the crowd.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they got mad when we tried standing in front.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's aviation loss in the nineties.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're not strong at all.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Devil's die.
[SPEAKER_05]: Devil's die is a four everybody.
[SPEAKER_05]: Four is wild.
[SPEAKER_06]: Four is wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get your fours.
[SPEAKER_07]: Boys here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Boys here, get your fours here.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, all right, all right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm starting to soft three threes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Four threes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you feeling good over there?
[SPEAKER_00]: Five threes.
[SPEAKER_07]: Bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Being so mean right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're being so mean.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's only three.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, take one of my fucking dies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great, no good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen here, Kat.
[SPEAKER_07]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: Second time I lose a die, I get to do a memory about a mixed review or misplaced scorn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think you really got in my business about replacing Hound, not only in the PR of it all, but I think that you started to get on my case about
[SPEAKER_00]: stepping on his guitar solos with my fiddle solos, which we were clearly trading for, so it was a hundred percent legal.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think you just started like really getting on my case about just like kind of all of the ways that I was
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, fucking up your plan as you called it, but it always had to do with something I was like, I was in the way of hound or whatever, and I just didn't get it because it was just like, what is your, why are you so preoccupied with hound and whatever I'm doing with hound?
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I think that like, you just kind of, you started to really bug me after a while with just like, hound this, hound that blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just, it was just a lot, a lot.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Could it be because you're into me?
[SPEAKER_07]: You need to stop.
[SPEAKER_07]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what was better time to get into it than right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on a train, we're in close quarters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk romance.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on here?
[SPEAKER_07]: First off, I want to say that it wasn't just the hound, it was all of us, because it always seems like you have a foot out the door with the band.
[SPEAKER_07]: True.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's less about what the hound should have had.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's more of who are you aligned to.
[SPEAKER_07]: It feels like you're just doing this to
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, break off and like do your own thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like if like Justin Bieber or Justin Bieber, he doesn't he's not alive yet Canadian
[SPEAKER_07]: He's a child.
[SPEAKER_07]: He's a baby at this point.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a baby.
[SPEAKER_06]: But a baby.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like if Justin Timber left in sync or something, that'd be crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: That'd be crazy.
[SPEAKER_06]: That'd be crazy.
[SPEAKER_06]: He would never do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: He would never do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it feels like, I don't know, you want to have your own career.
[SPEAKER_07]: You sell your own solo album at our merch station.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, are we gonna talk about Phantom Lim?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's maybe actually mule.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to maybe bring up the numbers and see which album has sold better at the merch table?
[SPEAKER_06]: I would love to bring up the numbers and you'll lift a giant ledger that he keeps which is physical.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's only they have like a program that you could like, I don't know, excel in in some way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mindies shut the fuck up shut the fuck up.
[SPEAKER_06]: I guess I have that on my list.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's like we need a better accountant on us for the last year the best selling album at our merch stand was Say it You know actually, I don't think I've been keeping I don't think I've been keeping that good a record.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're the best record keeper.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've got I'd love to know
[SPEAKER_00]: No one better than you, keep in track of the numbers.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's really more of an accountant thing, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I feel like an accountant thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, now we know what an accountant is.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not the rules.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what, cat?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's fucking Phantom Lim.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right, we're selling more Phantom Lims than any of our album.
[SPEAKER_06]: But that's my point.
[SPEAKER_06]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_07]: Are you in for the bander for yourself?
[SPEAKER_07]: If your album's doing great, cool as someone that's supposed to be your friend, I'm happy for you, but also you will clearly try to get out and you're only using us.
[SPEAKER_07]: So fuck you for me being on your case.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm trying to make this band succeed.
[SPEAKER_07]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not using you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You are using me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who was the one who made the deal with the devil?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who is the one who got famous because of it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Me sure but the rest of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you really going to play the eye made the deal card?
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we're literally running for our fucking lives on a train.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cockroat.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for making the deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were going to make that deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were going to have anything to do with getting dirty.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, I wouldn't fucking make that deal.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think it was a bad fucking idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: Listen, this is all bullshit.
[SPEAKER_05]: We all made a deal with the devil as a group, as a band.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you're just trying to
[SPEAKER_05]: Because you were the first one to say yes, because you were the one to look at the devil in the eye.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like you would have let any of us even get a chance.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you don't, you shouldn't be a Phantom Lim that's just floating off their not-existent, but we still have to feel you.
[SPEAKER_05]: You should be part of this body.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'd like that one, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not just the one who said yes to the devil.
[SPEAKER_00]: The devil approached me.
[SPEAKER_06]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: And he offered me a way more lucrative gig than what I have here with you chuckle fucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you're welcome.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when we're done, I am ditching you all to work for him.
[SPEAKER_07]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Fuck you, min.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean exactly what I say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna work for the devil.
[SPEAKER_07]: Why?
[SPEAKER_07]: Fucking luck.
[SPEAKER_07]: You're real piece of work, you know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean why?
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be something great all of us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why you fucking it up?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I am the one making us great.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're my songs.
[SPEAKER_05]: People come for the lead guitar and not for the fiddle.
[SPEAKER_05]: People sing along.
[SPEAKER_05]: They don't hum the fiddle bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: They sing along.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they tap their toe to the floor on the floor.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys, yeah, you can do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can just, you can do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But where's the magic?
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's the fire?
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's anything interesting in anything that you're playing?
[SPEAKER_00]: You do the basics.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're good at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have a fabulous career ahead of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I've got something better.
[SPEAKER_06]: Dying about colonialism?
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you do that in hell?
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is where I think I'm going out really now.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't clear about the specifics, but I'm going to play fiddle in hell.
[SPEAKER_06]: Go ahead and take that deal.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is dumb.
[SPEAKER_05]: We can all just do it together.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're fucking it up.
[SPEAKER_06]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: You got one die left, Carcara, one.
[SPEAKER_06]: She just fucking make a bet.
[UNKNOWN]: Fine.
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