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[SPEAKER_04]: What kind of fucking bullshit is that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's just hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we should just shut it down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'll end the stream right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna eat ice cream in silence.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's how you look.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You really are a fat fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just hide it well.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's disgusting.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I eat like you, I'd be so fucking fat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really eat a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I want you to only go on stream.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you eat like shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what that is, which even too many bananas is the good for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have it like, because I have to pass in overload.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very much recently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you eating more ice cream, should you do ASMR?
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, watch this.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's ASMR?
[SPEAKER_01]: ASMR is like, when people are like, hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, those videos, yeah, I know it's the people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, this is what I think about those.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're dripping off to those.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way people listen to those or watch those to just like enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my personal philosophy is you jerk off the ASMR videos.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way you don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is my, I don't know man.
[SPEAKER_01]: ASMR is fucking weird dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: The serving stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like everyone's probably seen this video, but it's just so ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at Marco Rubio and Pam Bondi.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy's been talked about for years.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things we, and are people still talking about this guy?
[SPEAKER_00]: This creep?
[SPEAKER_00]: That is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like a desecration.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the one who ran on this platform.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like he's the one who said like are you still talking about it?
[SPEAKER_02]: He was still talking about it years after it happened because there was no resolution.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason to stop talking about something if there's no resolution.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's potentially one of the biggest header file trafficking rings and like
[SPEAKER_01]: at least American history or just, you know, recent history and it's.
[SPEAKER_01]: I sent out a post the other day on Twitter, where it's like the timeline of like how does all went down.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said October, twenty, twenty, four Trump is like, I'm releasing the list and fucking February.
[SPEAKER_01]: All those binders went out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then early June, cash tell was like, he killed himself guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then late June was like, there's actually no list.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then July it was, hey,
[SPEAKER_01]: The list was made up by Obama Biden and the corrupt DOJ's pro.
[SPEAKER_01]: What a fall off dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: All you have to do is deport a hundred million people and you would be great and you got to keep fucking up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's annoying.
[SPEAKER_02]: And these people are like the most powerful people that are still in our government and probably other governments and in powerful positions like yes, people still care about the
[SPEAKER_02]: literal sex trafficking ring that is in the the highest levels of society like what why would we not care what else can we get Texas is important up on tremendous of people died, but this is more important than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm sorry, obviously I'm sure people dying, but this is my list of the important implications.
[SPEAKER_02]: Esther and I pedophile right.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is like a two a lot of like regular normie conservative types who, you know, that's what I'm friends with around here and that's my family like you talk about politics just a little bit with them and always the fobs into the Epstein scandal like this is just what like this this conspiracy is captured
[SPEAKER_03]: the right-wing zeitgeist for like five years, six years.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how long, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every time we, this, it always comes up and people have been talking about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I remember like the boomer con type saying like, you know, this is the reason why they support Trump is like, he's gonna bring the hammer down on the Epstein list.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, listen, I was never like the one that was like, he's going to arrest every single person involved or
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like bring down like serious high level people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought we would get like, you know, a few lower level hanging fruit guys like lower level guys that they can perk walk and frame them or bring them on some more right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe release some information about what like who is connected to it or something?
[SPEAKER_03]: What specifically like what the blackmail that Jeff Ferbs seen has was being used for like what were they actually?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like what were they trying to solicit out of people using blackmail like what sirs like that?
[SPEAKER_03]: And what for them to just like do it like I don't see how they can think you don't brush this off you can't just laugh it off I don't like this has been something that all the con ink right this has been like the safe conspiracy theory to talk about
[SPEAKER_03]: like all like you could watch Benny Johnson or Charlie Kirk or any of these like more mainstream characters they would talk about the generally have seen stuff like it's not something that like you have to listen to a show like ours to hear about it you know like this is something that everybody was aware of it didn't even matter if you're conservative or liberal like everybody was aware of the scandal it really captured this like that so you just like close the case
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, that's not gonna work.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like the most frustrating part for me is not even like the government lies, politicians lie, and some level I kind of expected this, like deep down inside, I kind of expected this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's to watch like people that I thought had a little bit more respect for themselves to be like, guys, the Epstein case is not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like watching people in my timeline, like actually just in this,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you know, are you serious right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is because when you when you like you said type when you go over all over the like conservative influencers, like like let's capture it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We all think he's a giant piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fag right, but like you could track his tweets.
[SPEAKER_01]: for being like, bring down the fucking absteen hammer, get all these fucking pedos out of Hollywood and it's like, and then it's like guys Trump's actually doing AT chess and you guys are actually conspiracy theorists for believing in the absteen.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like mother fucker.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was like history existed.
[SPEAKER_02]: The internet, like we talked about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like there's a paper trail and like I'm not saying that Trump is on the list, but
[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of looks like based on what's happened that he is on the list.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it seems reasonable.
[SPEAKER_03]: And open to the door for that criticism.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this opens up with that criticism.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if it's true or not, like this, it just makes it look like, you know, someone was tracking like Google searches before.
[SPEAKER_03]: before like Trump just announced that they're closing the case and they're like basically not taking any further steps and it was like Epstein scandal was like anything involved with the word Epstein it would be Epstein in scandal and that was like the number one Google thing and then shortly after this announcement it was like Trump Epstein's relationship like so then the whole like everyone's a mind like you were saying Sam is like
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why else you can take from it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not to say, I mean, I'm sure there's, but just to like, on its surface, you're like, okay, he's either on the list or protecting people that were in us that are associated with them on the list.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, do people, you're opening up the door for massive criticism.
[SPEAKER_03]: This just gave the Democrats a huge weapon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like all these Democrats are out here, like now they're bouncing on the mainstream media as you can, bouncing on them about this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's how the memory or the forgetful memory of this country worked with like the twenty-first seven new cycle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't forget Biden had this last during his presidency and they didn't really shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now even though the Democrats sat on it, they could still turn around and be like, well, Trump sat on it and be like, yeah, he did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you guys did too because like you said, you're putting their tech in fucking everybody, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: The only third possible option, and I don't even think this is it, but just for
[SPEAKER_01]: devil's advocate argument's sake is Trump.
[SPEAKER_01]: What could have been like maybe on closer is like I'm releasing the files and someone's like we're gonna kill you and he's like you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep in close like that could be that but I doubt that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's one of the first things I said my theory on this is
[SPEAKER_03]: that this would implicate so many higher level people, even if they didn't even do anything like weird or creepy, but just being associated with Jeffrey Epstein or other people that were actually doing weird and creepy stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: that any, if they would even release just a little bit of information, it could risk like national security, like it would actually risk.
[SPEAKER_02]: It will.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a level of people implicated.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't like some pimping Baltimore.
[SPEAKER_02]: This, this is, this is a big, big, sex trafficking thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I understand like why they wouldn't want it to get out because of like, it could tear apart the entire fabric of world governments, but like,
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why that system has to come down and you know I don't know if if looking at it from that perspective it's possible that like maybe it's best the list doesn't come out but at the same time that means that somebody can continue to do that in like maybe the whole like I don't know would we descend into a complete like.
[SPEAKER_02]: would all the governments like with the US and Canada and the UK governments like collapse and then we'd have anarchy if this happened like maybe it's best it doesn't come out but at the same time we're dealing with trials sex trafficking like I'll see even talking about this might get this limited by YouTube because we're saying like this is these are when you read about some gang or a motorcycle club like
[SPEAKER_02]: doing this type of thing, it's evil.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's even more evil, I think, when you're talking about like the most powerful world people in the world, do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, Israel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, everyone knows that Jeff Beasting was, we're not, we're not hiding that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just, it just didn't come up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, it's Israeli intelligence.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you guys see that former PM of Israel on Twitter today?
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, guys, I was a prime minister of Israel, and you don't think I would know if Jeffrey Epstein was a massada agent.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't your right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would we trust you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: J. Also.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say, like, also I think after the COVID thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They know we know they're lying about the whole steam thing in the video and they're just like, what are you gonna do about it?
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, oh, nothing you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're fucking thought exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're just kind of rubbing in our face at this point like fucking dogs into the shit on a carpet.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, you ain't gonna do shit bitch.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna talk about it on a podcast, my friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sam, can you give an anthropologist expertise on international bribery and blackmail sex rings ran by an asset of a foreign nation?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, we're serious.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is like, like obviously when we're talking about high level politics stuff, it comes down to people mostly talk about institutions and like what institutions do these, these large organizations, but if you really get down to it, it is individuals running the institutions within certain rules.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the interactions between individuals in those organizations and both within and between different organizations and governments, it comes down to personal relationships.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is something that my friends, Bog Beaf and Marbleck talk about a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: These patronage networks.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really relevant to that where like,
[SPEAKER_02]: their people are our clients and patrons the most obvious metaphor for this is like feudalism where you have a king and a duke works for the king and then that duke has like counts under him and like nights and stuff and there's like a whole
[SPEAKER_02]: like network up and down and somewhere the book has to stop and usually in a situation like this where you have some corporation or government institution that has done something horrible like the FBI or even like the EPA there's some sort of cover up
[SPEAKER_02]: It might be that maybe the head of the EPA or the head of the FBI did have knowledge, but they would pick some patsy who is like the director of not the entire FBI, but of a lower down subdivision of the FBI.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in this case, they can't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just too big.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if because of these personal relationships where like the people implicated,
[SPEAKER_02]: are like, like, this comment from Diego, they even had Stephen Hawkins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, they had Stephen Hawking, the fricking paraplegic scientist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is, like, this is high levels of government, high levels of corporations like CEOs, like presidents of different countries, prime ministers,
[SPEAKER_02]: heads of like secretaries of state, royalty of different countries like there's no way to stop the buck at some subdivision of an American department, uh, departmental secretary.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't make the buck stop there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And because of that,
[SPEAKER_02]: Visit the amount of people that it implicates.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just you can't release part of it because then it's like, oh, you're releasing this tiny part.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where's the rest of it?
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't release a document that has a list of two hundred names on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can't release just the footage from one room in Epstein's house because his whole house was rigged up with cameras, like just just the existence of that list.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there's a hundred and fifty names on it and a hundred and forty nine are blacked out and then one of the names on the list, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they just can't release any of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they have to come out and just say, oh, there's no footage.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no list.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they release a doctored void, voidzilla, what's his name?
[SPEAKER_02]: The usual cryptocurrency guy came out and said that it was altered.
[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently the metadata in the video that they released was altered.
[SPEAKER_02]: They cashed for tell it said they weren't going to alter it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way to release anything of substance without implicating
[SPEAKER_02]: everything and like once this information got out there's like nothing you can do so like and I don't know like there's there's blackmail where they can threaten people they can either use they can use threats or they can use like honey or vinegar right like they can threaten somebody or their family or they can offer them something like a position or money or some sort of power and like
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're at the level where your cash retail, even though cash retail is like, he's what, director of the FBI, is that his position?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's at a very high position, but there are hundreds of people more powerful than him, even though he has a public-facing position and like, I don't know how they got to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like I believe that cash retail personally was and maybe is like a stand-up guy, but regardless of how good of a guy he is and how much he is against the corruption, when they're at the point where like,
[SPEAKER_02]: We're dealing with people that were trafficking children to an island.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like these are people that will do things that we think are just in TV shows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they will harm your children.
[SPEAKER_02]: They will torture your mother.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like nobody, like I would fall into the pressure in that situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: If someone's going to do something to my children or my wife, something horrible, I'll say whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say there's no video.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say he did it to himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and at that level, what are you going to do, especially when these are the people who control everything?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's also something else that we like never really talk about.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to help them.
[SPEAKER_01]: How many people are into children sexually in power?
[SPEAKER_02]: And why do you think that is what is up with that, dude?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't get with a hot ass twenty one year old you're not going to get me with a fourteen year old why I know thirteen at least for you but like I think a lot of this is like you get put in positions of power because you're on the fucking blackmail list
[SPEAKER_01]: And they go, you're gonna run the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you fucking don't do what we say, we're released to some shit and they go, got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think a lot of it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't fucking know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, though, if like all these princes, presidents, prime ministers, fucking, let's Hollywood make sense, honestly, but all the politicians look at, they're all on its fucking list.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, that says something like,
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a comment here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the ultimate taboo and they know they can't get fucked for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think what it is is like, these are people that are very powerful, usually been powerful their entire life.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've gotten everything they want, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They've gotten absolutely everything they've ever wanted.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like after a while, it's the same thing with like addiction to pornography.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, you've been doing this for long enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where can you go farther?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where you get into like T porn and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: um for someone who's addicted to pornography and and then like you know that that's that's a whole other thing but I think it's just like
[SPEAKER_02]: they've had, they can have all the most gorgeous women in the world that they want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Saudi Arabia flies in and Dubai, they fly in like models to like, to shoot on that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, once you get past that, when it's like, when it becomes normal to you on a hedonic treadmill to just bang the hottest women in the world that you could ever want, I guess the next step is children.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't make sense, but how else do you explain this crap?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it would make sense for you just to do more to pray stuff with adults.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know why your mind would be like, I banged all tens.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, your old's been in my, in my wheelhouse now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it doesn't, like, I've done the tens.
[SPEAKER_01]: How about a twelfth?
[SPEAKER_01]: The twelfth are going up.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, how about?
[SPEAKER_01]: you just do like, I'm gonna shit in your mouth, like an adult woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that type of shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where it's like, why would you bring so, that's why I think it's, there've always been like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they find the right fucking people to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're like, oh, you're having me in politics?
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the operation fucking, the San Francisco thing where they were drugging politicians and making them bang hookers and filming them being like, do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: What was that, what was the operation, operation, drop or something?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not talking about, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone, someone knows what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think back in the sixties in a fair was like a big deal, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you cheat on your wife, like you're just like, now no one gives a fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: But people still care of your bang and children.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like that's the new.
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot where I either read this or so.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like yeah, that taught, you know, Jay Edgar, you know, yeah, you know, yeah, he was kind of a, yeah, kind of the process.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he also knew other people that were into this stuff and was blackmailing them and this is like stuff he was known for like, you know, getting dirt on people and getting into do like things that he wanted.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the time like that would seem like if you know if they brought like the stuff he had it was just like you know it's guy was secretly gay or he was just cheating on his wife at the time like it would be stuff like that those were the scandal and I know but like that is no longer a scandal like in twenty twenty five like we hear about it all the time like
[SPEAKER_03]: politician cheater on like no one cares.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like literally doesn't even make our news they get little be a post from a prominent like news posting account on Twitter and it'll have like two hundred likes like no one cares that they cheater on their wife anymore or is or even sleep in with dudes like that is just not like I mean people like always gay like whatever but
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that has been completely normalized and an artist's society.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I forgot where I read this before, but they think, you know, a part of the reason that that stuff is normalized is because people at higher levels like pushed it to be normalized because they were hired to be blackmailed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some accents.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is what, like, there is some aspect of our elite class that is trying to ignore.
[SPEAKER_03]: like normalize basically better field like behavior.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I don't think it's like exactly true across the board, but you do see elements of that for sure happening in our society.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a dude in a dog mask in the military.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one gives it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we care, but like, you could do it openly and he still had, I know he retired, but like, still I wouldn't even care if he did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just don't put the on the freaking fetish dog mask in your uniform.
[SPEAKER_02]: You freak.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would still care.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in his neck because he shouldn't be in the fucking military.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I shouldn't care, but I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that got you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was normalized.
[SPEAKER_01]: It propaganda as you wrote.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you guys over here this like conspiracy theory.
[SPEAKER_01]: The candy is public relations.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like Sam said, all these, um, like you, uh, our, our members guys and, and Dubai and all right, they would fly girls out to shit on them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was becoming like a, like a, like a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they didn't like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the theory of the conspiracy theory is that Dubai chocolate was just pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I'm sure try it's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was push so hard through TikTok and social media influencers.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you search Dubai chocolate, that comes up and not the fucking scandal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so confused.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw Dubai chocolate at like my local gas station at the at the companies, cumbersome and farms who got it, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like I like saw it and I was like, why would Dubai be making chocolate?
[SPEAKER_02]: And that actually makes the most sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is a thing like that might sound ridiculous to some people, probably not our watchers, but like at higher levels, at like these high governmental levels of like people will do things like this to change the narrative around what they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Ken Griffin Ken Griffin was involved in massive, a massive scandal, who is Ken, Ken Griffin Adam.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the owner of the mats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he owns.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: what he owns some sports team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm off track.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Ken Griffin, um, owns, who, what, what am I?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, whatever, this guy who banned a market maker called Citadel, and I'll Google this in the background once I'm done talking, but he owns this market maker called Citadel, and they were involved in this massive, massive scandal, and to change the narrative around like everybody Googles his name, they find out he's a financial criminal, and he's publicly hated, and then he buys a sports team to
[SPEAKER_02]: to like to to make that the thing that they that they Google for his name.
[SPEAKER_01]: He never owned a sports team, but he's been in bids to purchase Chelsea football club and the Miami Dolphins, but he he never owned a sports team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the Citadel thing is correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you're kind of red.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why did my, okay, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't Ken Griffin.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was Steve Cohen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Steve Cohen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's the owner of the match.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Steve Cohen is a guy that was involved in hedge funds who, if for the same reason, I'm sorry, it was not Ken Griffin, but he owned, he had bad press around being the owner of this hedge fund involved in this crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we bought the match around the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ginger.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a ginger dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am blonde.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been blonde my whole life like I don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't care if I was a ginger, but I'm not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Rex, go fuck yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think a lot of that's the case.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, especially with all these TikTok influences up they'll just like look at the Commogue campaign, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're openly paying like all these TikTok influences, but like go say you're gonna vote for us and like okay
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for your two thousand dollars.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, that's just part of the course now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's another type of social setup.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and the cover stuff up.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really like, no, just flood it with like, you know, get people normal normalized by something else or if some scandals like coming to news, they can just flood the keywords that you'd use to search up and then pop up like something completely different.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen stuff like that can happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the first two, yeah, the first season was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're getting way too many good comments today.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's so many people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even put them all out.
[SPEAKER_02]: The comment section is popping off.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that also was talking about cartels.
[SPEAKER_02]: Diego lives in Mexico and he was talking about cartel connections to the government.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the same thing at the highest level.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there are these connections of people that are very powerful and they have personal relationships that go beyond whatever is going on in ideology or institutions.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a bazillion like like Basil who was kind of left the the internet, unfortunately, but he talks about these personal relationships in like sex.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is up year zero?
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy Sam.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy's a man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah dude, it's, it's not getting any better.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're never getting at this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone said it before.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the JFK of the current time.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he did say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, the only, I don't think this is it, but Trump could have been like, I'm doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, well, fucking JFK.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, understood.
[SPEAKER_01]: I doubt it though.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do doubt it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But who the fuck knows?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he's on pretty hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm surprised they didn't just like continue to lie to us like, oh, we're still investigating getting information like they could have essentially dragged that out.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way that would be like there's no list.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, that's why I thought I thought and then they could, you know, blame it on a couple dead people or something like, oh, these people are the most prominent figures or
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Find a couple intelligence assets that were pet like to be your patty.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, hey, these guys were the ones black million people.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know, but they, it's just so brazen how they, they shot it that I think that's really what caused more of the backlash than anything else was like, did just the brazen?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there were not giving you anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's over, move on with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, yeah, I think they're going to have to, I don't know, make up something or find a patsy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what they're going to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: But people are not like going to be happy about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think they're going to be satisfied.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know, like I was, you know, I watched a Gwynbex show.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is like, you know, pretty big boomer audience, you know, boomer conservative type guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he does like a call section where like he lists a few people call in and they can ask questions or race concerns and dude pretty much all the calls and his latest podcast was talking about this like there's like nothing else matters like obviously people in Texas that matters but like
[SPEAKER_02]: FEMA and and good NGOs that respond to that type of thing are going to deal with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's going to be taken care of.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the only thing that matters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Terrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's discussed.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is the level.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, like there's there's conservatives, you know, they're big pro Trump guy never say bad things about Trump.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now they're not to the level of like, you know, Trump's in on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there, uh,
[SPEAKER_03]: They're confused.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of them might be like, maybe he's got a plan or something, or they're disappointed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like massively disappointed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I am actually worried that, you know, they have to do something, like give the people something, or this could seriously cause fractures within the mega base.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that can lose a lot of momentum.
[SPEAKER_03]: for things that act, like things that need to get done in this country, like deportations, you know, the economy, some other stuff like this stuff can help fracture this coalition, like just, you know, and I think even to the Trump administration, I kind of, I don't believe that they, they didn't know or realize how big this was to the base.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think,
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, maybe Trump didn't, maybe there's some like I like just to give them a bit of the doubt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe there is some serious natural security implications and they're afraid to crack into this case because it's sure there are.
[SPEAKER_03]: It would implicate people on their side that's part of their coalition or, you know, cause some snowball level event that would put like massive distrust and like unrest across the country of like the shit that they that gets discovered or something like I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just say that's what they're thinking.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that's true, but let's just say it is for this next point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Trump like, you know, he took a bullet.
[SPEAKER_03]: He like made the one the greatest political comebacks in history next to Nixon.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like he took a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think like maybe he thought that he could just close this case.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, listen, I'm doing deportations.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if he was doing more deportations, he maybe could have got away with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's true, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I just don't think like they thought that there was so many people like literally invested in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they were kind of at a touch with their own base on this situation and nothing else.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're they're learning that like people are very fixated on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, dude, it was like, I say this as someone that like, I dive into this stuff and research and look at them, listen to different weird podcasts that talk about this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: and boomers that don't do that, boomercon, they just watch a few Facebook Reels.
[SPEAKER_03]: They might not have to fake the facts right.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: They might say some wonky things about the Epstein case that even I'm like, that's a little far out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: The ones watching this real cyber, the same one's falling for shitty AI videos being like, have you seen this?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, we're fucked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you guys gotta die out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure I just mean that like,
[SPEAKER_03]: This has been stuck in the zeitgeist of normal conservative political talk for like five years.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they don't have all the details right.
[SPEAKER_03]: They probably fed a lot of misinformation or a lot of good information about this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: But what they do know is that seriously like depraved people and the higher echelons of our society, we're doing some seriously nefarious shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the Trump campaign either directly or indirectly claimed they were going to reveal what was going on and bring down the hammer of justice.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that is what they expected.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now they're not getting it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is a major scandal that's coming from this.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the biggest scandal coming from this administration right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, again, everyone, as I'm going to go into the biggest political streamer in the world, that's a big deal that as I'm in goal to still talking about this and he's conservative.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this kind of stuff is is what moves culture.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone who isn't in on it or on the list or a paid chill is like maybe we should stop the child's extra having hearing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like of course it's not going to and that's the majority of us, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So like of course it's not going to go anywhere, but they're going to keep fucking just stamp and that shit down until until it's like it's not going to go away.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I heard this is usher's a democratic win.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think in twenty twenty eight honestly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm not going to go vote in the midterms, probably at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, I'm not going to go vote in the midterms, probably at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, I've got those doing get fucking crushed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, the midterms are like, and it's not like the Democrats are better.
[SPEAKER_02]: They did the same thing, but they didn't the Democrats didn't come out and say they were going to do anything about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were just like letting it sit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Trump could have won this election without talking about Epstein, but he had to talk about it and it set himself up for failure when he then didn't do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no excuse for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you know this is like you know in a lot of ways the dims might even know like they're all there to know a way they can release this stuff So they're going to use this as a political tool at least in the public eye to bludging the Republicans of like how they failed I mean actually Jeffries yeah, it came Jeffries have already talked about like Congress should you know whatever It's probably political theater But legit like he's just going on there like hey, we Congress should look into like how we can get these files released
[SPEAKER_03]: And Max, well, set you with testifying Congress on the list.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you had to really know what that means.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of me either.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why was it you doing that?
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, to go back to what we said last week though, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, if he, there's no less why the fuck is she in prison for twenty five years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is common law.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to have a victim.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, who were these children traffic to then?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you have to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have like this is ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I just don't see this going away.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really see this calls in major in fighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's already happening major in fighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what's weird?
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's tell him me off though.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you have Matt Walsh, that's like, hey, this is bullshit.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have Charlie Kirk, not as hardcore about it, but he's even came out and was like, hey, this is kind of, I mean, a lot of the more mainstream, normy, conservative tall kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're blaming it all on Pam Bondi.
[SPEAKER_03]: That seems to be the normal thing that he's like, hey, we're just going to blame Pam Bondi.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're trying to make the book stop at Pam Bondi, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's what they're trying to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and, but, you know, then, then truck comes out on digital social and defense and bondy and it's like, okay, and then then I saw some of the consumer talking heads now they're like, we kind of have to criticize Trump a little bit now and they're a little iffy on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I did see today that
[SPEAKER_03]: Charlie Kirk's line was basically, I'm gonna stop talking about Epstein thing because I trust my friends in government.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Benny Johnson made a post saying that he's talked to some high levels officials in the Trump administration and now they're gonna look into it a little harder now guys and they're gonna release more information.
[SPEAKER_03]: And to me, this is just fucking damage control.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is them being like, crap, we need to get this to settle down and calm down.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the talking heads are going to act like, oh, it's because we pressured you guys and then, you know, we probably won't get any more information about this from the administration for like a couple months or six months or unless the pressure stays on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it could die down a little bit in the coming weeks, but I mean, I'm going to go out in the women.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I don't think this pressure's going away.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't mind like I it's this is something like as far as like there's a lot of division in the US right now democrats republicans and then people that are kind of like in the middle like us who kind of you know are lean conservative but we're not like maga people I think that's fair to say like but everybody like if you went in and
[SPEAKER_02]: one of us as like an independent goes in and we talked to like a random just random average maga person and a random average blue maga democrat like you talked to them all three of us are going to agree
[SPEAKER_02]: on this like this this is not something like the only reason that somebody from maga would defend Trump on this is if they think that Trump is playing some sort of forty chess that's the only which they do though some of them do some of them do but right now like Trump won this election because of people like us coming to his side I voted for Trump in twenty twenty four I did not vote for him in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty that's why he wouldn't the election
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's why I voted for other Republicans in twenty twenty four as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not coming out for him or for the Republicans in the midterms.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to fucking do it because of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this screws them and then the Democrats are the same things going to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to swing back the other way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's the bottom two because like Democrats are just fucking awful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they are just awful.
[SPEAKER_01]: As bad as this is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Democrats will actively try to ruin our country with like immigration and like tax it like they will fuck us so we're we're fucking ourselves really in the end but I agree with you it's like you should have just fucking fall through as we'd be avoid it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's a shitty dynamic that we are in you know most of I would say like ninety percent of like actual Republican politicians
[SPEAKER_03]: Or just as bad if not worse the only reason things are different now is because of this the Trump popular populism Trump movement and that's why it's so just like frustrating to watch this happen because I feel like you know I want Trump to like
[SPEAKER_03]: deport people I want from to like be the guy to expose like I want him to be the boomer pipe dream you know what I mean like I want him to be that guy I want him to come out crack skulls like hey pedophile you're going to jail you know because you'd be in jail like I want him to do that right
[SPEAKER_03]: I want it so bad and you know, it's still at the end of the day like I feel he does this where he He does something like this and you're like do what the fuck is going on?
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't support this and then he'll say something like I ran and Israel don't know what the fuck they're doing and you're like right love that you don't go back
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a sign.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it brings me back.
[SPEAKER_03]: But unfortunately, this is why I want him to be great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like him a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's one that drew me into politics, but this is like, okay, this is just not funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like this is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not cute anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like it's not like, oh, we're going to hide the pedophiles and I'm not talk about this and then he's going to go talk shit to some journalists.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, dude, you're we're out now.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're out of like, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't really back in anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is just too big for me to like just like
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he could be like, you know, we might give Amnesty to some farmer somewhere and then he'll go and like, you know, talk shit about like the criminals coming through the border and I'm like, oh, you know, he grilled me in.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this is like, it's not cute.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like, I can't look at this is like, oh, you're the funny guy that we elected to office.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: you actually need to do something about this because this coalition is majorly going to fracture your in charge of this and do you want to be like do you want to be the guy that survived the assassination to you know expose the deep state or the guy to basically cover up for the deep state like this is
[SPEAKER_03]: What is your legacy going to be?
[SPEAKER_03]: And, unfortunately, this is just too big.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's too big of a story for him to just try to stop it out and tell us to shut up.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just too big.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: It probably does risk some serious implications in our government and national security like a lot of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't even doubt that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just that this story is so big we have to have a scout.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to get something.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to put a sacrifice, a government official, a billionaire.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know something.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to give up something to the people so we can be at least satisfied to a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially because we don't know if it didn't continue under something, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: True.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know if this stopped.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's no, I'll put everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just something else now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: and maybe in forty-five years that will come out too.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also interesting, know how like the Democrats would get like the same playbook or they get like a text from somebody to be like, hey guys, post out the same shit and it's like, like, with Trump was, you know, like, this is the end of our democracy and every like big left-wing influencer, like posts the same exact lines.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're seeing that with the right now of this thing, like you said Charlie Kirk, Benny Johnson, all these guys are like, guys, I trust big government.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I trust the Trump and the F-steens stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the scene
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you can't trust any of these motherfuckers, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all the same exact bullshit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just what side do you align with more of, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, we're all leading conservative.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we see through that shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, not you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we are not your typical like fucking retarded NPC normie.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to see like, oh, they got it guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, they get, you hear they got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to keep, oh, we did it to myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the video was edited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it matters.
[SPEAKER_02]: It matters a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a joke dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like they're they just think I don't know they think we're so stupid like I don't I don't know or like I said earlier dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just we're not doing the fuck that we know right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to go to the Connecticut State House and hurt people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, my life's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: What would I do?
[SPEAKER_02]: No one is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what am I going to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to sit here and complain about it on a podcast to other people who also aren't going to do anything about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to do something.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: They bread and circus the fuck out of us.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's late.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like bad actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: People like the giant season, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I just think, you know, I just don't think I actually don't think even some of the big prominent influencers within the conservative side are going to put up with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's just, it's just too, they do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, in the end result is just that the Democrats then win.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is what they're going to, this is the stick they would read us with.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to beat the Republicans.
[SPEAKER_03]: over the head with this and fill them in terms like over and over and they do.
[SPEAKER_03]: They could take their weapon away, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: They could take it away.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what's gonna happen during their presidency?
[SPEAKER_01]: Every good thing Trump did, that's fucking God.
[SPEAKER_01]: USA, it's coming back, more immigration is coming back.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna fuck with all these tech.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna get fucked, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent fucked.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just nothing we could fucking do about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you see Luke's comment there.
[SPEAKER_03]: He said, I think Marta made a good point that the list is a distraction from the bigger issue of a domestic and foreign intelligence agency trafficking children.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think on his talker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tucker's trying that attack.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's literally trying to blame like Israel's intelligent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Massage.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's trying to blame Misha.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that would be blaming the like a foreign government or blaming just some
[SPEAKER_03]: Always blue Democrat like CIA agents like that might actually work dude, but unfortunately, who knows who they'll take down with them is the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you start, you know, putting these people up as the sacrifice for this angry mob, what are they going to release or what are they going to tell people and I think that's what they're afraid of, honestly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we said before, they know we're not going to fucking rise up and storm Capitol buildings.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like they're like shut up, Faggot's gonna do shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not going to do anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm literally, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're in like late stage Soviet Union now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think that's like the Soviet Union really just collapsed because like most people just stopped believing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they just like, it was like, hey, this thing, you know, this thing doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's getting so crazy, so off the wall.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're what they're trying to tell us at this point that it's falling apart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I can't remember his name.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was the, I think it was Czechoslovakia.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, one of the communist leaders, I think it was Czechoslovakia.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's like giving a speech about the greatness of the Communist Party, while the Communist Party and the Soviet Union's collapsing, like literally mid-speech, the people in the room start booing him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's just so confused.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, why is everyone mad?
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, dude, they're things collapsing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fucking idiot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, why do you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: They're mad at you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then that guy actually ends up being killed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like in the street, of course, they all do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Leader the dies.
[SPEAKER_03]: And but it's just like, I think that's like what's going to happen with us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like people, this thing, the federal government, it's going to still have major implications on our life.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just people aren't going to take it seriously anymore and know that it can't be trusted.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's going to be looked upon as like this thing that's just so absurd and abnormal.
[SPEAKER_03]: That it's just like eventually we can't look at it like this anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, especially this everything thing, like I don't understand how, you know, the people literally voted for the Trump maga populist cash to tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't know how famous Bond and Bond he was, but like cash to tell is going around the major podcast going around.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know where the list is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in a black book in the FBI.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to expose this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, OK, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you six months in, why would you do that if you weren't going to do it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, also maybe, and this goes back to my second earlier, maybe they really did believe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then someone was like, tap on the shoulder, but like, do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: See what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, noted.
[SPEAKER_03]: That could be like that could be an option like that could like that if you didn't have all that as a ballot possibility because they done it before he was either wine back then just to get into power and he was really going to do it or he's lying now because of threats or he really did it like he got the information he was just like this is just too big we can't really one like
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so either way, he's lying back then just to get in a power to make some shady, or he's being threatened, which means he has no honor, which means, you know, he's still not willing to do what's right for this country because of whatever threats as it gets him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even though his girlfriend is from, yeah, and his rally, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Prager.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if she's Israeli, but she worked that Prager you and she's a big soldier of Israel.
[SPEAKER_03]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll maybe that was it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're telling me indeed is a scammer type.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe that that's fucking bullshit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, that's what like everyone said, you know, everyone said that like when we started talking to you about Indians, it's really picked up after the back was started running for governor of Ohio.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, people start doing the Indian trash talk again.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then there was like this, like, kind of side of it that was, like, cash retail, you know, he's the one that's making us not eight Indians.
[SPEAKER_03]: This happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a Chad and he's a nerd.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then no, he's crap too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a colon, evil, Fandega brought up the Samson option in the chat.
[SPEAKER_01]: which is like Israel's like, if we go down, we're just fucking launching dukes, and we're gonna call it a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like kind of like, and don't be on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, that, I mean, and that's another thing too, dude, it's like the government literally made an anti-Semitic like task force.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a battling anti-Semitism.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is like a huge thing that they like every single Republican politician has to talk about is anti-Semitism.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now we have to support Israel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I don't think I, you could do a worse job than to just shut up about the Epstein thing because that is just going like, you know, I don't necessarily think that the Jews run our entire government.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there is a damn an influence in our in our government, but I don't think they run it all, but the people that go around saying that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're just, you just convince so much like a huge broad of people to be anti-Semitic.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, they're going to look at this and be like, oh, they're stuck.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's because of Israel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like if they're trying to meet people anti-Semitic, they're they're doing a great job.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are doing a great job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that way, essentially anti-Semitism is heavily on the rise.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm saying as somebody who does not consider themselves anti-Semitic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, of course, you look liberal of the show, Sam.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't decided yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still waiting for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I'll take the money is real.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't hide child sex craft game, but I'm not on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're off the list, brother.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, buddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't cover up for smaller stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Has to be that for nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what's in some people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Tucker call, I will say, Tucker Carlson going to the turning point USA event and like basically saying to the entire crowd that like, hey, this isn't as really like that's what this.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he on video, he's like talking to the crowd and he said that he was, Epstein was connected to Messiah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Messiah and told the crowd that we should be pissed about a foreign government, blackmailing our government officials and we should demand answers to this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And surprising to me, the crowd at turning point USA fucking cheered.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were loud about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, that's all, you know, they couldn't even
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, if you don't know, like turning point USA is huge supporter of Israel, they get a lot of Zionist donor money.
[SPEAKER_03]: They do special trips for their like certain students to go to Israel and see the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this has been like a Zionist conservative organization, you know, and even their own like students attending the rallies and stuff are cheering for this type of stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like I think
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they really lost the younger generation.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's become in pretty obvious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, yeah, I think, like we said before about the whole passing on these buildings and stuff like that, I don't think that's like intentionally done where they think it's like us like a covert, sci-op thing with like we're gonna trick people.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, they really do believe if they push the ship, he would be like, all right, you guys are right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's genuine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they genuinely believe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think they, you know, for years, that's all they had to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they didn't have to like get people to like really know the history of Israel and Palestine or teach lectures on this subject.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm for close borders in deportations.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then at the end of their speech, you're like, and we support Israel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so like, young kids would just see like, Oh, being conservative, being right wing means you support Israel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's it's not like this nefarious like,
[SPEAKER_03]: They bring the students in a black back room.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, listen here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you, you know, you watched this seven hour video about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff in the locker, like a fucking eighties movie bully.
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking, but my, my black friend is walked in the office.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in and he just smiled and all I saw was teeth and eyes was so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, the smoke detector beat goes on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like, who does it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's DJ.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see his teeth.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's dark.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, both.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to, I've got to head out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's a good episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure you have more of the guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, everybody's fucking follow us on YouTube, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, because, you know, we're definitely not getting pushed with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, like a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: Last week, we had an episode that had a click through rate of nine point five percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a few days after it only had less than a hundred views, which is clearly very clearly obviously throttling.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, they, they, they, they,
[SPEAKER_02]: being Google.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it does not want this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was not meaning the Jews, but of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like the video on YouTube, please, and subscribe, and I'll see everybody later following me on my space.
[SPEAKER_01]: Adam, not around Twitter at the real typo on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, hey.