[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Forty K-Lorecast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Forty Kaylorcast with me, John Barsodium, Brad Chester.
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And today's cast will be entering a series of cast focusing on who is the most messed up faction in all of Forty Kaylor.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a pretty dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the contenders are AdMec, Drew Carrey, and Sisters of Battle.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think for some of you might be saying, why the AdMec give me two casts and you'll figure out, this one won't sell it all the way part two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so we'll start with the AdMec, which is in their fun interpretation of the value of a living being.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is negative three.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wrote these notes on an airplane flying to turbulence.
[SPEAKER_02]: I fly multiple times a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm afraid of flight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Brad's in playing Forty Kay competitively since the four Y two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So with that, let's jump into the eye of Mac.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of before we begin, just overview of the eye Mac of what is an ad Mac, especially for anyone who's like needing newer to the game, you're playing space marine two or you're playing road trader or really any of the other games, you ad Mac are
[SPEAKER_02]: one of, in my mind, the most prevalent factions in the games of Forty Kay, but you don't really interact with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're very rarely a subject you would play.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's weird because they're their own thing because they have been their own thing, even before the Crusade, before Anna after the Crusades, Ed Mc is Ed, the forges of Mars have been their own thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Emperor had to go
[SPEAKER_00]: get his treaty with Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but let's focus on the, but they had my car.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they had my car.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a technology, technology obsessed.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going with people and heavy air quotes.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get into a while later.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they are also the technology and manufacturing arm of the Imperium, all the munitions, vehicles, starships, now primaries, Marines are made by the act.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At Mac are all about technology, but they're focused on their greed of technology.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it also lost them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had their, they're in their own dark ages because they wouldn't share between each other and certain techno warlords at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even now, wouldn't share their, we've lost so much tech.
[SPEAKER_00]: because, and they are also, they aren't as even though they're tech guys, they still have their own religion, I guess you would call it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the ad-mic effectively, they're incredible engineers, they're incredible manufacturers, all these things, because they also worship technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the key parts of the ad-mic, which is the dark thing, is they also don't worship organic matter.
[SPEAKER_02]: They view all flashes being flawed and weak, and they don't want to preserve it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a big thing, and this is because every time, especially military incursions, anytime they have a setback, it's always on how the flesh fail in them every time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so those are, you'll hear them, you know, my organics have failed me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is a common line that they'll use amongst GWR and really my cosmic.
[SPEAKER_02]: to kind of help them understand where they what they are now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about where they come from.
[SPEAKER_02]: The admec are the oldest faction in the imperial.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, they don't predate mankind, but though the oldest faction, they actually were organized before they predate the imperial.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But by a wide margin.
[SPEAKER_02]: By a wide margin.
[SPEAKER_02]: They eventually became the mechanicum, but they actually stem from further back than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because as you could imagine, when mankind first went to settle the stars,
[SPEAKER_02]: the first stop on the way out of the galaxy was marked.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they did that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was done during the age of technology, which is prior to the age of strife.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the pinnacle of mankind was during the age.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, be exactly the great crusade, definitely not the current version.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of this hails in comparison to the age of technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the greatest moment of mankind.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mars gets fully terrified.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was not a red planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was actually green.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We actually made.
[SPEAKER_00]: We screwed up Tara.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we made Mars for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It goes back to the old version.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: As a result of this as we're going the one thing we we touched on it a little bit again.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like fifty episodes ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't really know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't record all these back to back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually don't always remember what we recorded a full year ago, but I remember bits and pieces that we did at least talk about when during the age of technology mankind was kind of more of a conglomerate.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Tara and Mars were not governed by the same entity.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had independent entities.
[SPEAKER_02]: They existed peacefully, but Mars was its own place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the people from Tara and people from Mars did have somewhat different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the monstrous, we're a huge difference because the people of Mars were more, we need to figure out new technologies, forge them, make us better, even then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I interpreted it as being the people who came from Earth were focused on colonization of like, we're shouldn't be on, we're going to spread ourselves out.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be on more worlds as a Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're looking for resources.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go get better resources to build greater things because they were at this stage, the scientists as the best way to look at their scientists and the manufacturers.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're looking to make it, we'll for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They want to find the perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: This though begins to change.
[SPEAKER_02]: Around this is the same time that Eldar started leaning pretty heavily into what I referred to as the F around face.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was getting pretty dark and the warp begins to get more and more turbulent.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is where the first navigators are actually born.
[SPEAKER_02]: So as we said before, well, funny thing that happened, little side-nope of fun story, the navigators were born during the Sarah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Prior to the navigators, we actually were sending fleets of ships throughout the galaxy on like thousand year journeys where multiple generations would be born and died on this ship till they landed there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also funny to be really bummed when you're on a generational ship and you show up at your destination and people are like, oh, hey, yeah, they're already there because a warp drive has been invented.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to a navigator and you're landing on this what was supposed to be a garden world and it's already fully colonized.
[SPEAKER_00]: We already wrecked this place.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, this is where also the STC, the standard template constructs were created.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were created largely by the ad-Mac, which is ironic that, you know, you mean the card of Eden creation kit?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Got a gek.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were building their gecks.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this allows that this moment mankind is
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going, we're in millions of, you know, like you may not millions of plants, but somewhere into that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should back up the STC's again though, because I think that people think that the STC's are just like a little bit of a terraform a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, the STC can just kind of make
[SPEAKER_02]: whatever the hell you need.
[SPEAKER_02]: It varies a bit because it promised, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: In some code X is, in some readings, you read the call FNSTC and the STC could make something.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then again, the Lehman Musk battle tag was an STC that they found.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just blueprints.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that STC might have quite a bit of flex that some of them are like, has your own STCs and they just make every all the infrastructure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they had this creates an entire high world for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just press, press, go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And other ones are like, hear the blue prints are making a ship.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, like, has this until you had a camera?
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, no, you're welcome.
[SPEAKER_02]: For people who are the sense, it's a total of a high-lux, let me up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what people don't know what that is, look up what a Toyota high-lux is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is all kind of going great, wonderful, and then the elder hit the findout phase.
[SPEAKER_02]: The warpstorms explode all over the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Psychers are popping up on colonies everywhere, and we begin the age of strife.
[SPEAKER_02]: all of these newly formed colonies all around the galaxy went dark to one another and Brad's gonna laugh at this because he knows the reference.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm comparing this to those of us all to have an AT&T cell service in the early two thousands where if you could see the person you were calling, you could actually speak to them on the phone.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's effectively the level of communication they had.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brad's laughing because you work for AT&T back to your story.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Mars, like everywhere else, is consumed by civil war.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is crazy, because you went, hey, my phone call didn't connect.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should kill everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, man, dial it back a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, it's in the happen on Earth.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Mars lost all this loss of travel communication.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not clear what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it could be in that maybe Mars was reliant with their colonies for resources.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had some extra.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of what I think is because I think that Mars effectively overmind overdeveloped made the entire world go from grain to factory.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden you have none of the resources that we're coming in because they were a four-year-old before four-year-olds were four-year-olds were four-year-olds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they weren't getting anything they needed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think people started resource wars instantaneously.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because of that, though, we lost tens of thousands of years worth of tech.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's go through kind of the stages of the civil war in Mars though, which is really kind of, you know, kind of, it's incredible how fast this went.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Mars had always had multiple factions inside of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, like any, any planet, what Mars is a big planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's lots of people, they're not, you know, they're not a modelist.
[SPEAKER_02]: As these factions start to go to war with each other, there's a
[SPEAKER_02]: secondary issue for Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that secondary issue is that Mars while it was terraformed apparently they never if you're had to make ozone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not in charge of the terraforming.
[SPEAKER_00]: This was really weird because yes, this is an all right up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to pause for a minute because it kind of and I don't want to throw one of the bus for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is here.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he chucks them when they make dumb things.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I never understood this one because we've
[SPEAKER_00]: I clearly have the technology to terraform planets to be whatever we want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that's a radiation shield.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know why this is Master of Orion II.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could not terraform a planet until you put a radiation shield on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it was a radiated world.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, that's my tent chance to talk about a game that is very, very, very old.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to play that on DOS box.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: My master's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Master one is okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Three is hot garbage.
[SPEAKER_02]: But two is pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know the hand three to be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, three is terrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Woo, woo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I just don't know why they don't have a full ozone because we have other planets that we turn formed.
[SPEAKER_02]: That I assume do.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, back to what this is, they had a radiation shield on Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: The radiation shield had, effectively multiple generators all around the planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if all those generators aren't working at the same time, the radiation field falls apart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, sometimes you've got a bunch of, you've got a planet-wide civil war.
[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone in the civil war is supposed to maintain their own generator, so it doesn't collapse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, also, certain people were bombing them because if I'm going to lose screw you, kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So needless to say, the radiation shield falls.
[SPEAKER_02]: and a terraforming begins to collapse pretty quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not, and by the way, now there's a terraforming club.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mars is now being irradiated by the sun directly, which if you don't know that is, it's bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have an ozone and you're supposed to have a sunblock.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have an ozone.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're still supposed to wear sunblock.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's seven dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they don't, is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it Robocop one?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Robocop one, they were just put on like, you know, sunblock five thousand.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about five thousand.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the people of Mars now are doomed.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be irradiated or they're going to starve to death or just war.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this actually kicks up the civil war to even a higher degree instead of instead of banded together to find out
[SPEAKER_00]: a solution or a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, well, let's kill these other guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, they actually take what kind of they have left to make better weapons of like nuclear weapons, virus bonds, biologic weapons, very radiation weapons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because because it wasn't that radiation coming out of the sky, how do I shoot it out of the gun?
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is just ripping billions or die, but they get saved by a new group.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this group is
[SPEAKER_02]: technology of zest, Martians, because there are Martians named the Mechanicum, which are a religion, really, based on the belief of an Amnesia, who is their turn for the machine God.
[SPEAKER_02]: they believe that through technology, they could be saved and they could rise up to conquer the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all cute.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what they actually did though, which I was going to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would believe in this in this religion because of what's more about to say because they built radiation shelters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that I didn't die.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, you can only come in here if you're a believer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go,
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even care what you believe in.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the mechanical build radiation shelters, they start going, they start going underground to build manufacturing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They develop special suits to survive both the dust of Mars, the radiation of Mars, and they begin, of course, making weapons.
[SPEAKER_02]: and lots of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lots and lots of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And over, it takes a couple of decades, the mechanical control of Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fairly quickly to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Compared to the rest of the galaxy and terror.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what it's like.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is mean from what I've read.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think say from what I've read, because I've got multiple codexes, you do get some flex in this, but it looks to be a couple thousand years before the Emperor, United's Terra, the Mechanicum Unite Mars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and again, because the Mechanicum and their infinite and everything else, while the the Mechanicum should be a bazillion years ahead, and what their technology is, but they are also, in effectively, an inquisitioned dark age,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they go a little bit weird on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to have to discuss a certain lab or anything, but beneath the surface, they certain thing inside of it later.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for now, what the mechanic I'm doing is they, it just don't retariform ours.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just go with whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they turn the whole planet into a giant factory at slash high world.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have my own views on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that they did this on purpose because they wanted people to transfer their bodies to machines because somebody that's down in the center already had somebody else do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's pushing that agenda again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So at this stage, Mars turns into, goes back to being in the greatest forge world in the entire galaxy there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's laughably at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interconnected.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, still is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's ridiculous now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_00]: At the time, it was Disney World versus you and I in the basement doing a puppet show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, to this day, they're still incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, what this also does though is this belief of the mechanic on the on this side becomes absolute.
[SPEAKER_02]: because they were dead and this belief and following the teachings of, you know, the love of the love of the on the sire is why they're not dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this becomes everything to them going forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: The next phase of the story is what they did with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So pretty quickly, they've conquered all of Mars and they've got
[SPEAKER_02]: in its final act.
[SPEAKER_02]: The refer to is that they've found all the technology in Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: But not even the ballpark because it's so backwards.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to force him, but there's massive fault.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's vaults on Mars that were locked away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they also their technology is, hey, man, we found out muskets and you're looking over on the shelf, nearly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like those are phased teleport guns.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we don't know how to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, these muskets.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we get your nice musket.
[SPEAKER_02]: Around the same time, though, as we discussed before, the warp storms are starting to settle.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, mechanical and decide, all right, let's spread out throughout the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, this is well before the emperor has, you know, unified terror, or maybe even before he's even fighting on terror, and I'll get to that in a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: the admex start building ships and it's starting heading out of the galaxy looking for technology.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they're freaking jawas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have no idea what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just they're basically feeling technology and rolling out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are there are warp storms that are still rubbish.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they try to use warp drives.
[SPEAKER_02]: They might just get eaten by it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Others are using just FTL drives and getting there eventually.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what happens is they keep
[SPEAKER_02]: coming back with more and more stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So everything from weapons, armor and engines, nonstop.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm one hundred percent staying with the jaw off thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they, they take their sand crawlers and they just keep coming back with heaps of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure, is it the Billy badass?
[SPEAKER_02]: What was it?
[SPEAKER_02]: What was the stupid saying fish thing that was popular for like a minute?
[SPEAKER_02]: If they'd found one of those, this is the greatest piece of technology ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is any piece of technology was kept because they were moving more and more as Brad's missing into a cult than into this with these weren't scientists.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're like, we're trying to scum her.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also the code.
[SPEAKER_02]: factions within the cults.
[SPEAKER_02]: The mechanic I'm what's interesting about them is that as they kind of spread out to the galaxy, this is why they turned to a cult.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just been saved by technology from extinction.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they viewed their salvation as a miracle of technology, not of science.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're only wanted was to acquire technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they were looking to grad and they could they could they could they could find.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this though, because they don't think of this technology, they think of it as holy relics of technology.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's much, much different than I'm finding ways to advance ourselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to defend them in this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it makes them sound like idiots, but the truth is they're also, they're moving into the galaxy to discover technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're discovering Necron technology, LDAR technology, Joker, or technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you found that and looked at what you'd created before to joke, you might just sit there and say, wow, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to bother inventing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just keep finding this stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we talked about for a Necron phase sword.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're probably a million years away from inventing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, all right, God, if you find a joke hero, like, you put the orangutan in a room.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're putting it in the basement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, well, this is like, like, it just, you look at him.
[SPEAKER_02]: You walk up there, you just go slap every scientist you have in the face.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, yeah, why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is why are you this stupid?
[SPEAKER_02]: Go work the factory, like, go listen to what that with the orangutan makes and make it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they are treating this as, again, Holy Royce.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they are fanatical about it as opposed to a scientist about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: very true, but I just I was one of the fan like I don't know how I would how I would respond.
[SPEAKER_02]: If if you're a scientist and you discover like teleportation technology and just go also.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They found all this and then again, we have where the Imperium led with Zenos is bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: It will end later, but we're getting to the ad-mec and inquisition and how much they like each other later.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: As the fleets of Mars begin returning with more and more technology, the mechanic comes hunger for technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just can use the groanies we see heated.
[SPEAKER_02]: One thing I like about this is that they were raiding active human settlements they were finding.
[SPEAKER_02]: I firmly believe that when the great crusade happened, they found worlds that had that were scrubbed of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're like, oh, some horrible thing must have happened here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there was some ad-mech, Matt Mego.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, yeah, I don't know what happened this time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably a terrible thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Weird all the technologies missing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the funnier part of it is they also rated terror.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they felt, quote, the techno barbarians were too uncivilized, a whole treasured relics themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will again, treasured relics and also they said effectively they didn't deserve this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't understand why I'm smiling, you're to ear when I say this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is written by people in England.
[SPEAKER_02]: England has the British News Natural History Museum, which is famous for not being filled with relics from people as everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't know what I'm talking about, Google, London Natural History Museum, you know, collection and wonder.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have
[SPEAKER_02]: Not mummy, the casket of a mummy, a sarcophagus.
[SPEAKER_02]: You actually have the mummy, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shouldn't that be an Egypt?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they weren't civilized enough to know what to do with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know if you wrote that as a joke or as a serious thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care either way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good job, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Either for being intrinsically funny or accidentally funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll work with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also though, Addeck were this, they were being to colonize a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was really tough because they couldn't really use work travel yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was mostly stuff kind of within the sole system.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they had begun the process of building giant ships and giant fleets.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they could move out of the galaxy and conquer the, why can't I talk?
[SPEAKER_00]: The asteroid belt is huge for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big, big mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: The hell out of the earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even the line.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any of the big asteroids, they just set up factories.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: One side effect of all this is the phrase, Flesh's Week.
[SPEAKER_02]: You hear this a lot if you're around the Forty-K Law from AdMec.
[SPEAKER_02]: The mechanic on this stage begin to actually purge their own bodies of organic matter to replace it with higher function like biotics and mechanics.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's something that makes sense, like why have one arm when you can have like four doctor octopus arms?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you start also embracing this a lot in the just the functionality of functionality, but because
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what you're doing and you're gonna do it every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: All day, you can do it better if I just make your one hand be a multi-tool.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the value of this hand?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, eyes, ears, arms, hearts, lungs are all replaced.
[SPEAKER_02]: They can also be poisoned and they start off seeing it the dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it makes it feel better, Brad.
[SPEAKER_02]: They all said it best.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's one organ that they add neck, don't mess with.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in mess with it, they don't take it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't wildly mess with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the brain, it's a weird thing where they seem to, they never fully call out why.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the ad mix,
[SPEAKER_02]: at this state when they're the mechanicum.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's nothing we're going to stop at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: The emperor is not there to stop them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't go to, they even at this moment still kept the brain pseudo intact.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting a server to this person.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's because they viewed the brain as a incredible processor.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would jack it up, don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'd put electrodes in there, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it actually makes a lot of sense to me, but they're doing because you do have in the forty first millennia,
[SPEAKER_02]: numerous admit who are well over a thousand years old.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's their lifespans are incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also, we will go into this, but they also have people that are effectively AI's, but they don't let the, that's mean, it's been more part two of the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you're talking about more than mod.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about, it, it, it, it, it's a stage of the mechanic and they did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But one thing that they do create at this era are service.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, thanks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks, Adnec.
[SPEAKER_00]: Servitors are in a nightmare.
[SPEAKER_02]: Servitors are, so servitors are on their surface, not so bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Still bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lobotomized human that whose body gets cybernetic enhancements, so they can just perform a task.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, construction, farming, pause on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't like
[SPEAKER_00]: origin now it's a lot of times it's a punishment.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a prison term.
[SPEAKER_02]: Originally they were just, we'll get that, but they're cloned.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying, like right now, they're just making servers because they thought it was annoying to have somebody have thoughts that weren't mine or farm.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're like, it's inconvenient for me to have to deal with.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also easier to cut their arms off and put on new pieces when they're lobotomized.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you don't, you don't complain as much when I make all of your arms rakes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so, and these things are incredibly useful because, you know, unloading ships, cleaning, cleaning cities, cleaning ships, construction of Imperial building and construction of Imperial vessels, all of this can be done, or even, you know, for warfare, when you look at the ships of the Imperium, you have your navigator, you've got your ship captain, but most of like the like pressing of the buttons to make the ship fly through the servitors.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had some loading and unloading ammunition, servitors.
[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, nothing like it, but I'm really jealous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our servitors.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a, that little flying baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it looks really pretty, but all it is is resupplying you with ammo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Others, though, get out for new guns.
[SPEAKER_02]: They become a mobile weapon platform.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, as long as someone's wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, the old mind lock is a real thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk though about the darker part of how they're actually made.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that wasn't dark enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, because Nick, now we're, now are you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm setting us up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying, you go, hey.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't care that we're forcibly lobotomizing people and then you get to learn lobotomize sounds kind.
[SPEAKER_02]: What they actually do is rip out all the parts of the brain that create any form of higher function.
[SPEAKER_02]: Leave in the bits that just allow for motor function and then shove a processor in there so they can they can talk to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And unfortunately, you are aware.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they just do this because they're like, we're not going to because, well, you're aware because, well, and we'll get to the huge, not going to memory of it in a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: So who cares?
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_02]: Originally, as we said, the early parts of the mechanic, um, they are mostly that wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: These were just usually pretty horribly mutated.
[SPEAKER_02]: bipedal beings, they're not really humans at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: That they would lobotomize and convert over later though, both from the the the ad-mect doing it, but also the sisters, the custodes, this becomes an actual punishment for criminals.
[SPEAKER_00]: For anything though, hey man, I heard you Jay walked
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so this is where, because the example I use a regular servitor basically had the life of an oyster where they existed in a vat and then before they really had me life, they were turning to a servitor.
[SPEAKER_02]: these other ones, though, had a life and a being and then they're lobotomized, but they keep their co-onciousness, but they keep it away.
[SPEAKER_00]: They keep a higher level consciousness that has nothing to do with your function of this body.
[SPEAKER_00]: I call it
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just, you're just a passenger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is a nightmare because you are always awake and aware.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and this is this we'd say the use of as a punishment.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and then they also had to go load new nations.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they would do horrible things with them, like make them stand in one place.
[SPEAKER_02]: forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then a power pack.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we say forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it is centuries.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have centuries.
[SPEAKER_02]: Others are just, all right, they walk into fields of landmines.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's one, I read one of them, they've just held up a heavy object for no reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they had one of the stories of my favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just in charge of making rocks go from one side to the other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it for no reason?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: For no reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this was just, this is the horrifying punishment.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the imperium reserves that's for really anyone who slides the imperium.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, unless the sister's got a hold of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, but again, this is also, don't get me started.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is another thing that the lords of terror used quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's, but as horrible as it says, it also does serve, except for the criminal one from the regular one, it's really helpful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Flesh is weak.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is true.
[SPEAKER_02]: It needs rest that it needs food.
[SPEAKER_02]: Serveders have nutrient-goop and power cells.
[SPEAKER_02]: They can, the twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week, three, sixty-five a year, no problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they die?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you make another one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It gives you a workforce that can do, that can, I mean, I would actually argue, servitors can do more than space-married scan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because space means to do at a certain point need some semblance of rest.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about their condition.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, when you lose a space marine, it was like, well, the three or four hundred people went into that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of work where the server is like, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, also just acting all of the gear and just checking the server.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they are effectively the slave labor of the Imperium.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're not effectively they are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and also it's slave labor does not want to be a servant.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually it's worse than that, but at least unless you're the prisoner kind is that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's jump ahead a little bit further by like a few hundred years to the arrival or a thousand or a thousand.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really have no idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is very, very, very.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So needless to say the mechanical had a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: The problem was they're not very tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, lots of years every adiation and civil wars, they've got incredible technology, but they're not that great at fighting.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also because of all the wars have no navigators.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they can only travel either at faster than like drive speed or they'd blind jump into the war.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, during the wars, the stuff like that, it was a big thing they talked about that is they actually tried to kill the other person so they'd like to go get stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so that was where, and so the admaker, they're almost, they've got this, sorry, the admaker.
[SPEAKER_02]: The mechanical had this incredible desire to expand out into the stars and do more, they just cannot, because then what they needed was a large military force and infrastructure to do so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Luckily, one orbit of the earth closer, there is that this existed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the emperor,
[SPEAKER_02]: knows the same thing because he does no all, and he arrives on Mars to broker a treaty with the Mechanicum to provide his arm to himself with what he needs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Effectively, the AdMec have all the ships, all the weapons, and all of the technology, but the Emperor has the bodies and the will.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, when we say together, we're talking about the emperor.
[SPEAKER_02]: The emperor is not a big fan of us doing something together.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does both be present.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's, I mean, there is a we, but it's, I'm just letting you know that when we put out our press release, I will be in front of the mic.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you will be, he thinks in the building.
[SPEAKER_02]: He takes top billing.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the key part here is we've said before, the mechanic number not big sikers.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the emperor has a pretty cool psychic trick where he can present himself to you as something more than he really is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you see him as whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was Obi-Wan Kenobi talking to the storm troopers.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are these are not the joards you're looking for.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he pulls off here.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Emperor arrives and just, and he knows he needs to be the Amnesia, so he'll be the Amnesia.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have to say this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, because only a true Messiah would deny his divinity.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's very important.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the tech priests of Mars know of an Amnesia when they see one because they follow the few.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't get what I'm getting at, sorry, you should.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an incredible film.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that is really, it's just, oh, those are my Juniper berries.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it made Juniper berries.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the Juniper bushes.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Emperor does this by performing a number of his feats.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of what the, they refers as he performs a number of years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but it's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, the reason I think it's funny is his feats are he heals a broken imperial night, but put his hands on it, and he brings him imperial machinery back to life.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he just keeps doing those two things over and over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was really the only miracles you can perform for the mechanic, but they'd be impressed by it was like he did like that's the seven miracles of the on the side.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, oh, this in parallel.
[SPEAKER_02]: He stands out now and then that one I hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's pretty easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a fully.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a whole he's got a super juiced up set of power.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he's just like, yeah, and he walked through a bunch of beers and hit control F for over and over again, a bunch of beers like, I like it works now.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, they all heard the windows boot up sound.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were like, it's a miracle.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, it just fixed broken toys.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that piece, by the time he reaches the inner sanctum, it's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: The entirety of the mechanicum is, this is the on-the-saya.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will worship him.
[SPEAKER_02]: And with the entirety of Mars staring at him, he's able to negotiate a pretty solid treaty, which is called a treaty of Olympus from No reason, basically Greek for whatever reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is funny because he basically says, you know, you're under by weighing out, protect you.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also, they do a long thing and you sum it up pretty well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's a, well, in the treaty, there's like a long verse of what?
[SPEAKER_00]: It allows them.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the end, the Emperor just says, I'll leave you alone to be in weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's, it's the Emperor gives a mechanic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, I think the seven navigators, I'm like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He promises to protect them from enemies.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet, and says you guys can keep being extra weird over here.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's a long thing about what he says.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in the end, it's like, you guys can keep doing whatever weird
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just do it over here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, in return, the Mechanicum would fully outfit his army.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my army, I mean, the Space Marines and the Imperial Army with armor, weapons, starships, also building equipment to build, because as they conquer planets, their his planets, not the Mechanicum's pet planets, they've done a couple random situations.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he also did say importantly that any important in quotations here technology, he found, would belong to the mechanic.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in a weird side note, over thousands of years, they don't find any.
[SPEAKER_00]: Millions of worlds.
[SPEAKER_02]: Millions of worlds.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just not want one piece of technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really weird, poor Edmick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're definitely none of the STCs.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are no, they're they're absolutely none.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, Ember leaves a soul and the great crusade begins.
[SPEAKER_02]: That being said after he leaves, you do start to get some questions back on Mars of like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, remember, as he gets further and further away, his psychic aura is gone, the good guy's going like, can't wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: You realize you're shitty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you get overpowered by the psychic area, was he really the on the side?
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, if he is, what's that thing in the core of our planet?
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that might be the on the side more on that later.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the next piece of the story that Mechanicum is, of course, as with all these stories, the Horace Heresy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because... Well, this is right when they start having their doubts.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then someone goes, hey, I have doubts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I would like to tell them to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horace would have been a pretty terrible warmaster if he hadn't seen the immense value of the Mechanicum.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Horace knew that with manufacturing of Mars on the side of the loyalists, the traders never had a chance.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he needed to convert Mars to supply him or at least deny the imperial.
[SPEAKER_02]: That being said, Horace also knew all the secrets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knew about that there'd been, because Jorge had personally recovered STC's, shown to the emperor the emperor went, put that in your pocket for the admixture before the mechanic comes see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, so he knew that there was a secret here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he also knew that the emperor did not want the the mechanic him having these STCs.
[SPEAKER_02]: But mostly, by the way, the emperor is right here because the mechanic comes default on finding technology is depressed the on button.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, because they're not just trying to figure it out, they're just trying to worship.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're trying to make it go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if the thing that they're pressing to go button on is the most powerful explosive in the history of the dollar making it where it's run pressing go button.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the emperor was kind of like maybe we don't let them have technology every time because they're kind of idiots with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That kind of thing is hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So in the world of the horrors, Harris, you know, there has been a big change on Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: As we were just discussing, once the Amber left, people with and Mars are asking questions about, was he the AmnaSia?
[SPEAKER_02]: And there actually was a mehgo, so the stage who was present in the Amper for a Scott, their name, Kelborg.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cowboy for whatever reason, even when in front of the Emperor, didn't, this wasn't an impressed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it, Cowboy felt like, no, I, I have a love of the Amna Syah, and this is not the Amna Syah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not, this is not a, this man is just, he's a charlatan, basically.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I do not believe in this person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually really, I have my own things on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's,
[SPEAKER_00]: maybe not fully a parive, but I think he was like somewhere in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could say I completely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he just, is that the only way you're not at first powers doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just sitting there like, I don't, I don't see everyone else is like, that is the greatest government.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I don't see it, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just, that imperial night, he touched was already working.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, he rebooted the computer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we've, we've all been doing that for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also wonder what he, what he saw.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, this is the effort it looks like.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, what would have, how would a blank print perceive the emperor?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because the emperor's true form is whatever the hell you think he is.
[SPEAKER_00]: was got a real.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm saying, he's, sorry, he's true for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, it's true for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because everybody just sees him as probably in the middle of an ad met cast.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what, you know, feel like I raised a chair a little bit higher days to see what would happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: You need the fact that my, yeah, fairly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for those of you who don't know, Brad sits in my office chair.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just want to see what happened today.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I raised up a little bit higher, and he just been sitting there with his legs swinging for the last couple hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: because we record multiple casts in a single setting.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where I tell them at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why you can't touch the ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually higher than because you're right now you're sitting higher.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be comfortable for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can totally touch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that would act that's an uncomfortable height that that shares at right now for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to see what would happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the reason I did this has nothing to do with the cast, but just wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brad, the reason my favorite thing about Brad is he's a very stubborn individual.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows he could have lowered the chair, but out of just pure pride, he's refused to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it ties in well with AdMec and this is what they make about technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope, this is how it's supposed to function.
[SPEAKER_00]: A hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: So back to Kilburhal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kelbar now, we're a few hundred years past the original meeting, and he's actually attained the rank of fabricator general, which is the head of all of the mechanical.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horace knows that Kelbar is a little disenfranchised in the emperor, but doesn't know how much, but it's just that where that there's that there is a gap here, and he goes for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's already got some agents of the mechanical in his book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and they've already told him about Kelbar, but he doesn't know so he takes a swing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he does this swing through an agent of the mechanic and with him named Regulus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not Regulus, Regulus, like regular us.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have a pun.
[SPEAKER_02]: No idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope it's a pun because if it's a pun, it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's just lazy writing, then it's white.
[SPEAKER_02]: Regulus meets with Calabore and tells him the Emperor has been betraying both humanity, which Calabore couldn't care less about, but more important than mechanical.
[SPEAKER_02]: and to prove it, he hands over him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I see that, that the Emperor had told Kelobor, we have it found that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Horace tells him there's hordes of these.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got tons of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this does two things.
[SPEAKER_02]: One, it proves the Emperor's deception to Kelobor, who always believed the Emperor was deceptive, but more importantly, gives Kelobor something he wants more than anything, which is STC drives.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also, about what he said he would do with him though.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, this is a terrible idea, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Horace says, go ahead and research anything, pull up anything for the Dark Age of Technology, which includes not having a band on AI and everything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, they refer to AI, not as artificial intelligence, but it's abominable intelligence, which is just the core name.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which I mean, it would make sense if you think it collapsed your entire society.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horace, though, also lays a trap here.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the trap, he lays, has to make something called the vaults of Morothek.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives Calbor the code to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll get to that in a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I believe he does this because Horace knew, Mars was never going to be a value to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's too far away.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just needs to listen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was trying to turn Mars off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do not believe any.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing like I'm going to turn the manufacturers of Mars to my side.
[SPEAKER_02]: How it's surrounded by.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, just simply put no nothings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing's leaving Mars in a high volume.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just because they were just blowing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but what I do need is the imperium not to have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I think he gave him the code of the vaults of more of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So going back in time again now during the early age of the mechanic, um, right, part of the age of strife that we don't know when there is a guy named Moravek who founded a cult on Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this cult goal was to create a singularity, which is a great sci-fi term for something probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a black hole, but singularity.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know he said.
[SPEAKER_02]: Depending on which sci-fi you're reading, a singularity can be different things.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the biggest thing, he wants to have a man machine interface.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he effectively wants to hear his book continue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, a tyranny's aren't machine.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to be honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the name of the guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to be identical.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to hear thought they were going to be true.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the judge.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really going for really what he was, but what he was truly making was an abomination of organic and inorganic AI.
[SPEAKER_02]: A. K. A. K. K. Austin.
[SPEAKER_00]: wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not chaos taint.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just king.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't you're not taint.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you jumped in the pool.
[SPEAKER_00]: The pool wasn't that's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you just yeah, it was in the pool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what's fun is the rest of Mars song when yeah, I know this dude's way too nuts and it was just best because everybody else was nuts and he was just like whoa whoa whoa
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always impressive when they're like, look, we're all in a cult, but this cult is too much for her.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they actually sealed him and his followers in their workshop.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this workshop became known as the Vault of Morivak for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: When the Emperor arrived on Mars, Emperor was a super-siker, especially a tune to the chaos, he sensed the vault, walked over there with a bunch of the admins and watched this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they pulled the story and he went, that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he had his people change the lock on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: to his own code.
[SPEAKER_00]: The best is he doesn't try to kill it to get rid of it or anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like, ah, we'll just put a lock on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What could possibly happen?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just just shut my theory on that is because he didn't want to open it and have them all see what was inside of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just like shut this, don't ever do anything with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also some custodes later to just remove the problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: For whatever reason though, Horace knew the code to this, to the vault.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the thousands of years, this thing's been locked away.
[SPEAKER_02]: The corrupted AI grew and grew and grew into something that's become that we term in forty case as scrap code.
[SPEAKER_02]: And inside note here, I don't, I'm not an electrical engineer.
[SPEAKER_02]: So anything about to say is that far off to those of you who are, sorry, just honestly, sorry, but
[SPEAKER_02]: what the scrap code is supposed to be is a line of code that is fully self-aware, and it's also a virus.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's also a warp in the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, warp in the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is the warp in the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: So once it begins, you do not have the type of malware you need to stop in AI chaos.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: They actually, somebody I make did.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he said.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm saying you don't have a computer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once a scrap code gets access to any sort of machinery via a vessel, whatever, it just takes it over and replicates its own scrap code, which it then transmits other vessels.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's they call this scrap code.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more of like a computer virus that functions the way an actual virus functions.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're actually self replicates sends it out, which can be computer viruses function that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, not electrical engineer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kellboard does not know this, none of them know this, but they, Kellboard just loves technology.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he thinks that the vault of Morivek is full of hidden technology that this jerk emperor won't let me read.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he runs down the vaults of Morivek, types in the code, opens the door, doesn't even bother to look.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the image I view here is when Walter Pack turns off the containment unit and Ghostbusters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about me making all the reference.
[SPEAKER_02]: People have seen Ghostbusters.
[SPEAKER_02]: This stuff, this code just comes flying out and starts infecting machinery everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus also infected machinery that's been in the vault just come running out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this scrap code is just everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Luckily for Mars, different parts of Mars had different, a better or worse firewalls.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't actually infect all of Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does get most of it, but not all of Mars goes down to the scrap code.
[SPEAKER_02]: This means Kelabor for whatever reason the scrap code, I think just sense Kelabor was on his team.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Kelabor is still self-aware.
[SPEAKER_02]: So scrap code doesn't affect him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know why I don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he does realize he doesn't have full control of the entire planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to need to conquer the planet, peace by peace.
[SPEAKER_02]: So under the pretence, sorry, was it there for me?
[SPEAKER_02]: We're calmer than does, is under the pretence of heresy against the Amnestyah, him and his followers attack the loyalists of Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just like with the Imperium, this split, rips Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's called the schism of Mars.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not so bad, Dad, because these guys have after disposal, a lot of big blooms.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as we said before, when the mechanical and now the advent go to war, they bring all of the heat.
[SPEAKER_02]: These, you know, the followers of Kalbar become those a dark mechanical, and they actually still exist in modern forty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but this war was amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about nights, titans, red rad bombs, nuclear weapons, virus bombs,
[SPEAKER_02]: The stories of this are incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: A nine hundred thousand troops are dying in a single battle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fourteen million killed in a virus bomb.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like nineteen titans were dropped and titans again titans step on imperial night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's how big they are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Titans again are small.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're considered they're basically they have infrastructures.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are cities.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're walking cities.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nineteen of the were lost in the single hour.
[SPEAKER_02]: This war explodes and it's not long before Mars just is false.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kelabor is able to conquer Mars, but to what it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not much left.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the Imperium senses this, they rush over, but the problem the Imperium have obviously is that Mars is well fortified.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were now, they couldn't invade Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they took out nineteen Titans in an hour, what are you going to invade with?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's the whole point.
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that you made your world so heavily fortified, you don't want people taking over your fortress or your your your foundry.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're like, oh, but they did internally.
[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't tell you so now what I'm not doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So effectively, they have to put a block eight out, but it's not like, and this block eight, by the way, has some pretty good wide birth because there are
[SPEAKER_02]: orbital guns on Mars.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like you can block out the sky with your spaceships.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mars has a pretty wide birth here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But all this does is effectively turn Mars into a self-contained horse heresy.
[SPEAKER_02]: The wars keep raging across it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the dark mechanic I'm is able to pierce the the blockade every now and then to get some supplies to horse, but it's in freak.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes and no, because we end up having quite a bit of stuff off planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do, it's more, they transmit, you know, schematics off planet, but the one time at the manufacturing of Mars is very limited to the aid of Horace for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Horace gets closer and it's better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I just think Horace's plan the whole time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want his vision.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just let's make sure that Rogel Dorn doesn't have Mars because if he does, I'm done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, they will, they'll just build start fortresses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Calabor and the majority of his dark mechanic, um, they're trapped on Mars for almost the entirety of the Horace heresy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this does change when the traders enter the sole system, because as you know, as we said before, if they fight their way all the way to Earth, which someone called out in our discord a while ago, I'm like, why do they have to go planet to planet?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't I just come in the back way?
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, the planets basically never align.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they depend, they're aligned for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: This all changes the color board now is free to lead his mechanic.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the downside, though, is that much like the rest of the horse, the people who are on the trailer lesions, Kelberg's been corrupted by chaos at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not like Angron or Fulgram, he's got pride.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got desire.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kelberg kind of just starts to fall apart.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's once all the credit for all the successes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They want, they're prideful.
[SPEAKER_00]: They want glory now, because they want glory for
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he doesn't really, he may or may not.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants glory, but in his glory, it's glory for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's for the on the side, because Calibar's whole thing at this stage is the Emperor lied to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not the on the sire.
[SPEAKER_02]: The true on the sire is someone else, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to ruin a book for all of you, but let's just say, read end of death volume two, Calibars in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a really key thing that happens here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to leave it at that because it's books and leave it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the book's really been out at time of, I think it's been out for less than a year right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to admit people, and it's, it's a tone.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not going to be like, what have you read it yet?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like, you know, me talking about the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: All you haven't seen heat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, you've had thirty years.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can talk about this now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, don't ruin Star Wars, like, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's your time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: At this point, it's on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Either the thing about this is that after this moment and end of death, Kelborg disappears, he does not exist in the Lord all anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there are, but the dark mechanic, so does he die?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he reformed with different constructions?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I totally agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's reformed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Heresy ends and the Imperium's got a little bit of a problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mars, the Mechanicum, was Trader.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mars is also their manufacturing is the only way they'll be able to feed themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the biggest thing about this is, normally, especially with, I don't know, the Lion and Lehman right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anything that was traded at all went to pound down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything, he's the emperor has been in tombed the golden throne because of heresy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone's got this awkward moment of, but, yeah, Jim, man, Robert Gilliman decides, I need these guys to
[SPEAKER_00]: We trashed a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you say that by killing me because you're trying to make Lehman out to be a better person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lehman doesn't fight him on this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Lehman, the lion don't say crap to the the Yellowman's view point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they still have to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: We want to go kick some ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody get me my ass kicking boots.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we don't make those.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those guys make them worth those guys trader.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: But will they still make my ass kick him right in my second boots?
[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like you got a choice to make.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the choice they make is rather extreme.
[SPEAKER_02]: They decide there's just the mechanic I'm no longer exist.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to call the the deptus mechanicus.
[SPEAKER_02]: any active member of the Dark Mechanicum would be executed and they really had their parts melted down.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wouldn't, for usually with the AdMec, if you die as an AdMec, like with the Space Marines, they harvest a gene C to use again.
[SPEAKER_02]: The AdMec, they would actually harvest the parts to use another things.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they melted these guys down just in case of a scrap code.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what's funny about this is that the AdMec gain power through this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not only did they get reading in the admec, they actually get a new treaty with the Imperian, making the head of the admec a high lord of terror.
[SPEAKER_02]: They gain further autonomy.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're able to colonize worlds on their own, and those worlds are fully managed and sustained outside of the authority of the Imperium.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's under the authority of the period, but it's the under the authority of the adept, the authority of the inquisition, which is because they're their own arm, because they are an adeptist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that's our next cast.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, let's actually, this is a good break point, I think for us, because in the next one, we're going to talk about
[SPEAKER_02]: some of the changes the ad-mec now go through now they because they were with the emperor there they were under the yoke of the emperors how i would look at it and now that he's gone they gained so much autonomy
[SPEAKER_02]: So much so that they are in almost, actually no, sorry, they are in direct conflict with the inquisition at this very moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are in, there's a shadow war going on between the two of them and the Ecclesiarchy and a bunch of others.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, again, they have their own religion which surrounds a zino.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's made doesn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: What you made is a zino.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also a star God.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't figure this out completely.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, which would be as he knows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: Non-human.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's definitely that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So on our next cast, this ever going to dive into that, definitely the thing Brad and I are foreshadowing to the secret monster in the basement.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not even secret.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's just in the basement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it says, I don't think they can open it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's more of that piece.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's very much locked in the basement and it wants out of the basement.
[SPEAKER_02]: They want into the basement.
[SPEAKER_02]: So those weird scenarios where everyone wants everyone wants to open this door, but no one can open it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's bad news, Paris.
[SPEAKER_02]: Probably a good thing because I'm not a hundred percent that it's not a, yeah, I'm not sure if it's a shard.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's at least, it's more, it might not be a full, but it's way more than a shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good way to end tentative.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's a left turn.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so until then, this has been John Barsati and Brad Chester.
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: See you guys next week.