[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Forty K-Lorecast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Forty Kaylorcast with me, John Barsani and Brad Chester.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy on today's cast, we conclude our coverage of the deathguard with the run of the Horace Harris C through the current storyline of Forty Kay.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the current storylines of Forty Kay's, the fact that John has not seen Avatar and I tried to make an Avatar related joke and he reminded me
[SPEAKER_02]: because we've already touched on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: That hasn't seen the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to continue on from there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just needed to throw that out because that was how I'll help you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're all welcome to jump into the discord or the comments and tell me how I'm wrong for missing out on that gem of the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll wait for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you haven't seen Matrix three.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have to see Matrix three again.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to throw the wine on which you did call me out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said I'm going to throw wine at you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like you're not going
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, you're never going to wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like a waste wine, but you just compared a you made fun of Avatar and then compared Avatar to Matrix three and that is to both of them are periods of time that most people who've seen either them would be happy to replace with other periods of how long's Avatar I could have watched what South Park the movie again that period of time and
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a win.
[SPEAKER_02]: You move on from this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do not disperse the good name of Avatar to the bad name of Matrix Revolution.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a good movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just objectively not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry for something to throw.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, today our focus is going to be more tearing in Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mostly Typhus because this is where he really has to come into his own.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does not shine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also becomes the poster boy because more tearing is just gone for a while too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we'll explain why from a GW standpoint in a minute, but as always comment and like a podcast, we are really really enjoying reading the comments.
[SPEAKER_01]: The liking and commenting is also about really helping push us out for those of you who've done it, we're now like top ranked in North America, UK, Australia.
[SPEAKER_01]: I misspelled the Sweden really badly there on the show notes with two eases.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's sweet and anyway, but we now actually write a point where we have regular listeners over a hundred and seven countries, which is really amazing for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: And with those countries being said, we are getting to the winter months and also we are leaving the summer months.
[SPEAKER_01]: We also do realize there's two hemispheres and half of our listeners are in Australia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just saying both of them are tough for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because in summer you keep it too cold and the winner just is too cold.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just laughing because the bunch of Australians are like, hey man, like, what are you leaving the winter months?
[SPEAKER_01]: I just say we have an awesome Christmas where we go outside.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, it should be for Brad.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really hoping that this snuggie thing happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to be warm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, I'm room temperature.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where Brad went to weather.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went on a hundred and twenty seven countries, and I know how many countries speak English.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for all of you who are listening to us in a language that's not your native, A, thanks, B, super sorry about jacking up your accents.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause Brad and I don't always pronounce their words in English that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God, no, I don't print it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're American.
[SPEAKER_02]: I speak English poorly, literally.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're Ohio.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, and I grew up in Philadelphia.
[SPEAKER_01]: So overall, like, you're just wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, you're Brad's just wrong and most of all.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like B. M. V. Oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're still going to go back there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've done it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, if you do like the cast, I want to interact more with other like-minded people.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do have a discord.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the show notes, you can see it and there's a link.
[SPEAKER_01]: Follow it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The discord's really gotten great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a healthy community we have in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: People are talking about
[SPEAKER_01]: stuff about the cast obviously for future potential topics, feedback for the stuff we get wrong, the stuff we forget.
[SPEAKER_01]: But more importantly, I think, because it's become a community around hobby, game play, you know, video games, how to paint models, how to play, how to play, what are the games you like, what books do you like?
[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's just, if you're kind of looking for a repository for that jump in, again, I'm gonna keep saying, I'm not pushing this because we get paid on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't, we get zero dollars out of it and we don't charge anyone for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just like giving people a place they can go.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anything is our discord.
[SPEAKER_02]: If this is only good for people that know how little I interact with anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our discord's interesting enough where I pay attention.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Brad's actually in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just want one thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm been there a bit more, but it's on my phone, so it's easier me to do stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another thing, too, is for those of you who've been listening the whole time, you may notice that the audio has shifted a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those of you who are older listeners, you know how much is this for the newer listeners.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this first third episode's a little bit rough, but thanks to the Patreon that we have on this, we've been able to hire an audio engineer to clean it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We bought some new audio equipment.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for those of you who have joined our Patreon on, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really has helped us out a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: For those of you who are new to listeners, if you want to help us out, it really does.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some future things we'd like to do with things like adding ourselves into YouTube, which is, you know, I have to go then get some more editing, updating our website, etc.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all coming out of the Patreon.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to help us out, that'd be great.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't, whatever, still a free podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lastly, though, as we always bring up Brad's an old old person who's been playing Forty Kay for way too long for an adult.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: They just because the one you're actually old enough to not be called an adult anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact I am an ARP member.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're you were is it fifty with what's it but fifty it's fifty is a cow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so Brad for those who don't know ARP is just Google it'll be funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: For all the American members, Brad gets a discount on movie tickets and bus rides.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but he spent the majority of that time of his life playing Warhammer Forty Kay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing you've spent most of your time doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've traveled the world for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have it, but the majority of your life has been spent playing Warhammer Forty Kay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I'm, I, I, you're belittling my, I'm honest to where I am on, on grappling, I've been grappling for more than three quarters of my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Soldiers, you roll around with twenty men.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have our things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also play toy soldiers on occasion.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is very much so on occasion.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do it well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you by flip the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do not do it well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was not saying you flip the flip the exact same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, screw you play role.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but for those of you who are looking to play for DK and a bit more at a higher level from wherever you are just learning the game period.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's always going to be a higher level if they've there a play the game before show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, technically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm playing the nowhere to go, but up Brad's a coach available.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say when we say Brad's a coach, lots of people claim to be coaches, Brad Q his undying credit and he will just use a little victory dance in the corner while I do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad has won a major event every single year.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been a top-right player on the game for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as a coach, he's bringing extensive experience both to how the game is played and also to like how other people play the game, which is a key thing from coaching.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're looking for advice on how to start out playing the game or you're playing the game for a bit, you just want to get better at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad's available.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can try and email him at
[SPEAKER_02]: old man Brad Forty Kay and Gmail.com and also the person that took that in the discord was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was fantastic and I was just tea of a teasing Brad forever that she didn't get that good job, Brad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or you can go to the Forty Kay lorecast.com and click his like there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, let's jump into the cast because that's why we're here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's start with where we were.
[SPEAKER_01]: So quick recap of last week, Martarian arrived in the Toxic World of Barberos.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why a place existed?
[SPEAKER_01]: You can hear my complaints last week, a certain purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: After rising the local population against the Narrow Infuse Psychic Warlords, the Emperor denied him the ultimate, his ultimate goal, which was killing the Warlord named the care.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian has always hated rulers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's always thought that rule was earned, not granted.
[SPEAKER_02]: So even when he, I mean, he equated rules rulers with despot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so even with so when he granted himself, his like, feel to you, the emperor, he never really wanted to.
[SPEAKER_01]: However,
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus on the other hand is kind of equally important.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, or Typhus was also born on Barberos, but he was the child of a human mother and a psychic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Warlord.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was both an incredibly powerful psychic and extra messed up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also that wasn't that union wasn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't consensual.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this was, it was zoos.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the truth is, Typhus was kind of, it was almost like a Heracles type set, where, you know, but I super sketched even.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it, so it was Heracles.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it looks like, yeah, it's like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, his entire reason for all those things is to go,
[SPEAKER_02]: Get out of my face for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the stories of Heracles are basically my dad kind of cares about me.
[SPEAKER_01]: My dad's wife wants me dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: My mom is a mortal person.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also go do some stuff far away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the the typists, we know where they stole the idea from.
[SPEAKER_01]: Martarian then joins the emperor as a prime mark.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus is up converted for lack of a better phrase to a space marine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a ton of barbarous people are converted again in a wildly too high percentage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this was wild foreshadowing because
[SPEAKER_02]: There was no reason that these guys were just, hey, our mortality rate is really low.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for some reason they'd put in the, the, the, the, seventy percent functioning organs.
[SPEAKER_01]: In to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they just, but for us, not of us die, everyone else dies.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that catches this up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's move now into or is heresy.
[SPEAKER_01]: We move, one of them, this is kind of what the key parks is approaching of the league.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but like, watch shows up before then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the biggest douche in all of Forty Kay?
[SPEAKER_02]: Airbus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do you hate this guy so much?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not real.
[SPEAKER_02]: He makes me so angry.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a maze, not a real person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Airbus showed up first.
[SPEAKER_02]: He did the warrior lodges and because of the warrior lodges, but the warrior lodges are a great idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've said this in multiple podcasts now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they're terribly, they're objectively not.
[SPEAKER_01]: The idea is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, you need.
[SPEAKER_01]: How did idea work out?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we figured out who we could purchase.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like, oh, it's, it's an objectively great idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one that led to the purging of the legions and the entire of the horse heresy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, outside of that idea was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: To give your ideas, converse with no hierarchy, just, you know, men demand.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then what they do with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the isolated people in murder and turn everyone to chaos yeah but when they weren't doing that and they weren't doing that they were having a conversation they were having great conversation leading them towards converting the middle of everyone to chaos i mean that was a problem idea that should probably not have that conversation but the idea of having conversations between equals like the round table was fantastic that worked out perfect also the round table wasn't a real thing that's that's actually
[SPEAKER_02]: You neither did this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just did, you just compared a fictional thing to another fictional thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying that that fictional thing should have worked as fictional thing be worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like my logic is strong.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so one of the things that was critical as we're moving up into this is, as we said last week, Mortarian really didn't feel much affinity towards the Taranborn members of his legion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then every time a primar took over a legion, all of the space Marines that they took over were from Tarra.
[SPEAKER_01]: most of these guys were at least mediocre to pretty okay with the group.
[SPEAKER_01]: Martarian was not.
[SPEAKER_01]: He struggled.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted everyone to be from Barbara's, which by the way, Martarian's not from.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's from Tahr, Earth there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And fun thing is, I was thinking about some of the day because I'm weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does he have a belly button?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the weird guy for going fiction.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the fiction.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love these guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to belly buttons.
[SPEAKER_01]: They shouldn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just got abs and belly buttons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, GW don't make my models even weirder.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the new models are like, hey, like, I don't know who was a GW that spent this much time designing a nipple, but on an armor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you didn't need to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Batman is a Batman beyond the worst Batman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to me, there's nothing in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Laura, I usually argue with your stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, that one was.
[SPEAKER_01]: You would also haven't seen that just just like avatar because it'll look at it and say, that's going to suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just for you, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: You compared it to the Batman forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Matrix three, you're just really up in the anti-air.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you think half of it starts.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're hurtful toy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, half of it, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also gave a pass, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're good.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's other movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've also seen on the waterfront a few times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Godfather, there's actually a good mood.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I'm a nerd, I've seen Alien Aliens print me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hell I've seen I've seen Predator two enough times that is something wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Predator?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't even go there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't even go there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alien versus Predator two.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the first one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, you're missing the Alien with Predator two.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is a gem because Alien versus Predator two survives on one very simple concept.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every person in this movie is expendable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just kill them all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Predator two had a predator that was three to four feet shorter than the original predator.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's because the dude was dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're moving on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Things have really went wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: A strafe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another word with ace so I keep my liberation.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I have to more carry in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, more terrians have been converting the deathguard over to being mostly people from Barberos.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as we discussed last time, these people are all servants of Nerval, whether they knew it or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just won't.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't specifically say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think he does it completely on purpose, but he does get a lot of the original recruits from Tara Killbov.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like not even before the if it's not nearly like night lord's creepy way.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like oh, he just died.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does kind
[SPEAKER_01]: He exposes them a bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And these guys get a slightly higher risk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they get a little bit higher mortality rate.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he weeds these out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether he's trying to do it or not, they never really talk about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he just lose a lot of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do have it by the time we hear the horse heresy, the vast majority of his legion is from Barbados, which is odd given this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I like to keep part about that, though, is that the soldiers from Barbaros don't really get along with a soldier from Terra and vice versa.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a, it's not a, it's not an animosity.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just don't socialize basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's, it's different.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's different.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the quote of movie that, I don't know, this West Side story that come out when you were a kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're not that old, I'm just messing with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it is, it is, but it's two sides of the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, that reverence and my snapping is gonna mean nothing to so many people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also haven't seen that one either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've read it.
[SPEAKER_01]: God damn it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've read it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just like, I just love making you feel old and adamant.
[SPEAKER_02]: That chokes for my dance off.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even gonna make a difference.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's continue.
[SPEAKER_01]: You really were of the age of the watch, whatever was on.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was three channels.
[SPEAKER_01]: I at least, at least I was born after a cable was invented.
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't have it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have that kind of money, but it existed at other cancelses.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, on the note of this, with these guys not getting along, this really kind of helped
[SPEAKER_01]: drive a wedge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you can imagine you've got these terrens who are from nobility, effectively, back there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they come from one of the most important regions of all of terror for more years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're being part of, sorry, they're being paired with toxic mud farmers.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is a real thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even just toxic mud farmers.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's toxic mud farmers that don't know enough to know that they're toxic mud farmers.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you don't even, you don't understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of you would be the one to her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, you've probably seen the golden palace.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other one was being attacked by plague zombies.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have enough knowledge to know that you're beneath me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how far you guys were.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although I was, when I was writing the notes, I was thinking about like, it probably is pretty similar to when sex lesion arrived on Fenris and was like, oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have to hang out with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They fix that so fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We only do the woohoo!
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when I just, I always laugh about thinking about like, this one was more like, look, guys, there's actually this thing called electricity back, you know, like, that's the comet, because this is more like then meeting the Amish.
[SPEAKER_01]: Versus like the guys arriving on Fenrus, like just looking around going, we can leave, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we don't have to stay here with these people.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is genuinely terrifying.
[SPEAKER_01]: All this is leading us up to the most important part of the Horace Harris scene, which is the drop sign mask.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, post Horace's corruption, the plan was set to purge the trader legions of any loyalists.
[SPEAKER_01]: So remember, as we just were discussing here,
[SPEAKER_01]: at like, well, it's like way less than half, but it isn't percentage of the deathguard are Terrenborn.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have nothing but loyalty to the emperor, trying to convince them to leave is not going to have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing is is that this is a big deal, because you have to go again, well, we call it the trader legions and the unloader.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but none of these people think of themselves as this.
[SPEAKER_02]: They think of the think of themselves as
[SPEAKER_02]: the people there in the right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like they went, hey, we want to do evil things guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're the bad guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We want to kill people and everybody went, I'm on board.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they think they're doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they go, and they had to make impassioned speeches to, hey, we're going to have to kill our brothers because they're not going to go along with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that you're saying that, but world leaders were part of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really just don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just changing the calendar dates.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: We all knew this all along.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the big thing on this is deathguard, and I really encourage everybody to this listing, read the deathguard novels, read the horse hair scene novels, that involve the flight and everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Read flight devise and Stein, spoiler alert, next guest we're going over it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the deathguard novels get a little
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but there's some incredible character.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's great characters and great story in there, but you do have some bits of like if I skip the next five pages, would it affect anything?
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's like, come on now, their deathguard has people that are.
[SPEAKER_01]: While they're the novels, I'm not going to have the characters, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying the characters in the novels, like there's some people that are
[SPEAKER_02]: just great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just there's there are and I'm again, GW's are sponsoring me among some serious back editing to do in our cast, but I will call out the simple fact that some of their books are written like there was a word minimum.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're not wrong, but there's some great parts of the stories because there's some great characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not even going to go into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a really good death character that stays loyal and he's pretty god damn us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, we're going to be getting into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, as you told the story a while back in the horror's heresy, this Von III becomes at the massacre point where they're going to effectively send a bunch of
[SPEAKER_01]: Loyalists down to take part of what is a fake rebellion, and then they're going to kill them all their down there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so what matters for deathguard, because this is a foreshadow to a lot of other stuff, I said, there's other things that matter like, I don't know, salamanders and full-containing a nuke to the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's this fun for.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun three.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's fun three.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's an issue and this and the issue for Mortarian is someone named Nathaniel Garrow, who is one of Brad's favorite programs.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as I've told you guys all in the cast numerous times, we mentioned Lords of Tarra, Brad makes Pauly face.
[SPEAKER_01]: When we mentioned Eribus, he makes scowly face, but on Garrow, he actually has an ear to ear grin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll leave smiling right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is such a, I love him because he is not overly powerful, overly any.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he just goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just makes things happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just doesn't quit and just kind of keeps on keeping on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Garrow to what we were discussing earlier, actually, he is Terrenborn.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, um, he,
[SPEAKER_01]: But Martarian loved him like a son or a brother.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was the guy is a go-getter He's the cool they use multiple times because apparently they can't think of a new one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, but it's stoic bravery, you know, just it's a terrible phrase.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's
[SPEAKER_02]: good to go no matter what the odds are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and guys who garrow becomes an issue and this is the reason we're bringing garrow up is there's a lot of reasons, but one of the big ones is this becomes the first real wedge between Martarian and Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian loved Garrow, and was convinced, because Mortarians always convinced that he could convert Garrow to his side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian, by the way, in the entire Horace Harris, he over and over again, is convinced that he's going to make some loyalist turn trader.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is over all of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think he actually convinced people that were on the fence to go the other way exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's he's he's more terian is more of those people that thinks he's the greatest salesman and is actually the worst.
[SPEAKER_02]: He put no he put no points in a crisp.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's useless.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hefus on the other hand, New Garrow was never going to turn the oil.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hefus also just didn't like Garrow because of the relationship, the more Terran.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the Hefus hated Garrow though, they just didn't like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hefus hated Garrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: correctly, new, he's never turned it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like ever, ever, ever, ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's the most loyal member of our entire Legion and we're asking him to do something that's the opposite of loyalty.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why would that?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tyves says, well, I'll just kill him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, the funnier part, I like about this is that Mortarian actually brought Garrow to a warrior lodge meeting, despite everyone telling Mortarian, don't bring Garrow to our super secret meeting for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not welcome here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're telling him we're like, watch this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And while sitting there, Garrow looked around and went, yeah, now I'm out.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not a good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is this is heresy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, so he, for again, like talking crap, I'm wondering where I can't wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also,
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Geralt, but this is one of the scenes where he could have kept his mouth shut, because he sneaks on in the lodge, but not until he goes, tells everybody that he thinks they're doing wrong shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you could have just left.
[SPEAKER_01]: He made it clear that I don't agree with any of you, and now I'm going to sneak out because of the weird combo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just go, hey, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, he basically, he did the, um, half baked, you know, like, but then like snuck out the back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, but Neil is to say, the traders just watched him go, yeah, I don't agree with anything you guys are doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go to hell, basically.
[SPEAKER_02]: He told him he would try to stop them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, he was the only guy in the lodge that said that and everybody went will so we got to kill that dude, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And more Terran's like, no, no, no, guys, I got this.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody else in the lodge went, basically, I'm assuming as soon as Martary and left looked at Typhus and went.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to kill.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to kill with that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus went.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, like, like, why are we discussing this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was called.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this leads to the challenge of this spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now what what kind of what saves Garrow is before they go to to his spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is one last stop they had to make, which was at a planet who's I don't remember the name and I genuinely don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome fight though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the scenes awesome, but Garrow ends up getting this is one of the
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, excuse.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it doesn't go completely in this, but it's like brightest fanboy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys know how happy anxiety is right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I usually make them the first times that they actually saw cans.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of these because this is when they had all these slenish infused people demons.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: They fought.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a cultist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's talk of those are better.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there was there was a rebellion on a planet and they were it was slonech cultists who had been at least partially possessed.
[SPEAKER_01]: At this point in the horror's heresy, we don't really see a lot of full-blown demons.
[SPEAKER_01]: You see everyone.
[SPEAKER_02]: You need a critical man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the immatarium's ability to breach into the material is still limited.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're getting things like chaos, spawn, your start and you get, you know, there was, I think the, I believe it was a fourth horse harris, you know, or they fight like a, like a demon possessed being, but you're not seeing true demons.
[SPEAKER_01]: That comes, that's not till the end of the horse harris here where there's enough, like, to mulchinessness in the, in the, in the material.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the critical mass of
[SPEAKER_02]: It's whatever it is, of that cask God.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a critical mass for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it murder?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it excess?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it claked?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it whatever?
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, they get enough of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They start reaching the war of the horrors.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just open to all of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Bayley, so Garrow is fighting, and he's fighting a slenesh, he's slenesh, he infuse cultist.
[SPEAKER_01]: And his leg just gets trapped in your rubble and crushed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like crushed, crushed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the ceiling comes down on him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The interesting thing about this is to heal as Fabius Biles, actually, who does, who cuts his leg off and puts on a new cybernetic leg.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Fabius Biles before he's converted to chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a very good surgeon at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's used them as technically as a better one now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they actually is better now.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just messed up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just him.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he was amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was always, he was always one of the best surgeons in the entire, like, like, like, my just Legion, like, on all the ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the cool thing is, this is the first time they saw that kind of full on slime.
[SPEAKER_02]: They also never seen
[SPEAKER_02]: like people are moving in vampire.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, yeah, you know, interview the vampire level speeds where the battles random people are faster than Marines.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, what is even happening right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: The battle is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does end.
[SPEAKER_01]: The challenge here is that Garrow now has a cybernetic leg.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the way they write it, I like this is that effectively him and the leg have to get used to each other for him to work normally.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what that takes only a few weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause yeah, this is, and in the thing is, it's not just
[SPEAKER_02]: He instantly has you some of the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can move on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just can't move.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's space marine speed speed battle coordination of watch space marine to the video.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're pretty awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing stuff where, yeah, man, you need to be in full control over your new processes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, Garrow, because of this,
[SPEAKER_01]: The issue is now they can't send into this fund because despite them wanting to kill them all, you can't kind of give the farm away.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, oh, yeah, the guy who's not bad already, just send them down.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, which is super funny, by the way, because Garrow beaches up a storm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not being able to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does go on like a little bit of a pouty rant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then finds out later.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I didn't go down to the obvious trap to get killed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And tries to do something about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Typhus has not Typhus has a problem because he promised all of his buddies.
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd murder Garrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he guaranteed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he can't put Garrow down on the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: He then goes to Mortarian also by the way, after that warrior lodge meeting and says, Hey, we have to kill Garrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get that right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mortarian tells him do not harm him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or he came to the very specific.
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget the phrasing, but he was a very hard core about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, no, I think more tearing to do not place him in harm.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was something like something that to that level, because it's one of those writing tropes where they were like, well, I'll just not hear that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I followed the letter of the law.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Typhus decides the best way to handle Garrow is to shove him with his random, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: forget, called the Eisenstein, which again, when I read the book, I read it as Einstein every single time on every single time it was written.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't till many years later that someone said the flight of the Eisenstein and I went, ah shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, he puts in there under the command of someone named Ignatius Grulgor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Grulgor actually is becoming pretty important the lower later.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess now too, but whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Typhus is then tells Grilgore, look, just do this stuff you have to do on this ship, but don't hide it too much from Garrow so that when Garrow finds what you're doing and gets upset, just shoot him the face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pretty, pretty basic thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, moving forward, because we're going to cover this more on our next cast, but gyro discoveries that Robo is going to bomb planet, gyro then, you know, intervenes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He also finds out that he's not like this one ship is all a trap, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying blah, blah, blah, because when we wrote these notes, I didn't really think we're gonna do next.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the next cast, we're gonna be doing great nights and flight devise and Stein.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna really, I don't know what you guys have to listen to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fanboy over this, what might be the best book in the entire series.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty sweet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with Garrow does his Garrow ends up killing Rulgore more in this next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: and take in the Eisenstein and to head towards terror.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus is not cool with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Typhus, we probably should have mentioned earlier, is command of one of the largest battleships in the entire, like, traitor or a mod, a called determinist.
[SPEAKER_01]: As determined as this, it's going to come up a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he just starts trying to blow the Eisenstein out of the freaking, you know, is it fairly good job for them?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it gets pretty close.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Eisenstein does escape more than that next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was saying we'll just, yeah, there's so much to say about.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, let's just say, Mortarian is less than pleased when he discovers what has been going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you might cheat together because this is, for Terrians, not my least favorite, even remotely, but he's not on my favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: What Terrian and Magnus are similar?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're both oddly whiny for some of the most powerful beings.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he just also just refuses to acknowledge, which shit is not going his way.
[SPEAKER_02]: He still thinks he's going to turn Garo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's on his way to Terra to warn the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's actually kind of the interesting thing about this is to me, is Martarian really still thought he could turn Garrow to his cause and he was mad at Typhus for preventing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's also mad at Typhus for then also like Garrow escape to go tell the Amperes what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's be honest with you, at the time, at this point in time with the Death Guard,
[SPEAKER_02]: more terian who is I'm giving the air quotes in the leader of the death car, because I actually think that time has might have been the de facto leader at this point in time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: More terian stew believes that he's in the right and that they're not
[SPEAKER_02]: Kaskan.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not Kask.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's a more tarient didn't know at this point that the other legions were corrupted by chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually not for a bit longer that he comes a terms with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now he's, he's not trying to be team like, like, moral high ground.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: He believes that the emperor, which he's not a hundred percent wrong, by the way, which is why Horace got to make this in the beginning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mortarian, one hundred percent believes, and again, it's easy to believe Horace.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horace legitimately has magic powers that make you believe what he says.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, giving more territory a little bit of leeway on this because, oh, you know, you're brother with the magic powers that make you believe
[SPEAKER_01]: What he says turns out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you, you were believing him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually that's fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's he's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a convincing argument and he used magic to solidify that seems okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's on team.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the the Emperor's wrongness.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has betrayed us because he kind of didn't, but also the Emperor's dick, guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Emperor is not great, but Horace is about to get a lot worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, oh, like, let's dive into kind of the beginning of the fall for more terrier as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the Legion itself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but this goes, this is the biggest, this is more the fall.
[SPEAKER_02]: This goes quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the early part of the heresy, the deathguard are kind of their engage in bowels of the dark angels.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the legion is split into two.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian takes the majority.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus takes a small little splinters feet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus goes and kind of attacks.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just there to be kind of pain in the ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: The dark angels.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he doesn't just do a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a pain in the ass.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because he showed up.
[SPEAKER_02]: When, hey guys, what's going on?
[SPEAKER_02]: We should talk and then immediately open-fired wrath of Constile from two feet away.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't seen that movie by the way, screw you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, older than a lot of our listeners.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most of our listeners.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, because while life is doing what's on, while type is doing what he's supposed to be doing, which is a surprise attack in the Dark Angels to kind of pull down their fighting force.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian, just to think I'll walk about and then's up like trying to sway Jagatai Khan to his path.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, this went badly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was I forgot about this one actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is this is worse than the Garrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually his worst his worst miss.
[SPEAKER_02]: He lays down his plan and Khan looks at him like he's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just what are you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is happening right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, is this like my on it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this a prank show?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's no way the words you just used.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did we did you hear you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you hear you speak?
[SPEAKER_01]: That was basically what Junk and I concentrate back to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what's wrong with you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Mortarian still doesn't know that chaos exists, or doesn't want to believe it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care which one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian thinks that the problem is psychic powers.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why this gets to be kind of funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Mortarian, after meeting, so, Kantelsen was best of the truth and screws off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian realized that all of his brothers are corrupted.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he doesn't think it's by chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: He thinks it's by psychers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So more likeers are bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He hates psychers.
[SPEAKER_01]: So more telling and deciding only as to figure out how to just defeat all of the psychers in the world and that universe and everything is going to be just because that's what he did in Barbara.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he had to kill the psychers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This.
[SPEAKER_01]: does not go well, or does not go well, understatement of the cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Mortarian goes on what I wrote as a vision quest of murder and destruction to fight answers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mortarian, no, pause on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're downselling this so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mortarget goes on a vision quest to try to find answers and anybody that talks he kills.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like if you're a DM and your players kill all the NPCs and then they can't understand why they can't figure out what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is one more time and there's some horrible stories in here where he brings Grugor back to life, you know, but by just a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, using magic, that's it is that this is where the book gets a little like the stories are cool, but it's one of those ones I remember after reading this book and going like
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what just happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, did two different people write the book I just read?
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my actual thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: He eventually meets, effectively, a mystic, a fate or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, it's a, a employee by the cast, as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he meets a woman who, you know, it's the breath point.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's, she's a mystic.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a whatever you want to call it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he just starts interrogating her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she just, she just looks at him and goes, bye.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: every one of your friends talk shit to him because she goes, all of these things should be obvious.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you're in a, yeah, that's why she told him because she wasn't like, like, Mark Terrain had this, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: He like, I'm going to torture this person to like give me all the information I'm seeking and the person's like, I'm not afraid of torture.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just amazed.
[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't figure this out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll just tell you because I think you're an idiot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if you just give me a glass of water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, none of this is a secret like you're you're torturing me to read about reading you They're telling you the truth that's written down the piece of paper in front of both of us So I'll just pick the paper up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just read from you guys that that you're holding the information Yeah, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: She just tells him hey your friends are servants of chaos.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by the way
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a servant of cast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your legion has already been hand-picked by one of the cast gods in his serving that cast God carried it while we're talking.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do much more tearing gets really upset and unleashes his psychic power, which has been latent this entire time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's actually, by the way, maybe the second most powerful, the psychic, the psychic in of all of the primers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about self-hade.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a listen to so many Smith albums after this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the, I read the note, I wrote here is the meme of, are we the baddies?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's more terrier.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's always been.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So more terrier.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing the, the meme from outer space.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Always has been.
[SPEAKER_01]: Always has been.
[SPEAKER_01]: So
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's dive into the actual fall of deathguard, because while Martarians out doing his little like whining walk about,
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's been being awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Type this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even want to act like this because it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Mortarian is being sad about the fact that he couldn't see what was happening to him the entire time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just driving by billboards that say all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The entire time he's doing this, his
[SPEAKER_02]: right hand man, Typhus has been trying to figure out how do you serve him because he wants the Legion to worship the guy he already has been worshiped.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus, Typhus is not thrilled in general with Martarian.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Typhus decides this is his moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been trying to figure out a way to use certain Martarian and actually deliver the full
[SPEAKER_01]: deathguard to neural.
[SPEAKER_01]: The issue is that because of the way the primarx function with the pseudo-functioning gene seeds, Brad just gets mad at her because of, you don't work, you typhus can't deliver the deathguard to neural, only mortarian can, because they all share his gene seed.
[SPEAKER_01]: more ternity.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so typhus needs a way to get more ternity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's back of this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because no matter how much he wants to say is the chosen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, at the time, all legions are psychically attached to their primaries.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Either they want to or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we cover this in the arm and cast that, you know, when Magnus gave himself to Zeanch, everyone went.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't have a choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Typhus has a plan, so he needs to set this up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the two fleets meet back up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus is fleet and more terrians fleet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where they've been told, all right, go to Terra.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're about to launch their way into Terra.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just before they enter the warp, Typhus claims that he's caught one of the ship's navigators sending a secret message to Malkud or a warning that other plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he has all the navigators just murdered on the ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: More tearing just looks at him like, what the hell did you just do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we can't go in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we can't go in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do which Typhus says, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually a super powerful psycher, which I do believe more tearing would have sensed because of Typhus' psychic abilities were exceptional.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was more... I think more tear.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't use them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pouting.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the Brad thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not anywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: My take on this was, Mortarian was still having a hard time accepting the fact that he's exactly what he hates, which is a super-profit like her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the thing is, Mortarian's command to his legion was, you're not allowed to use psychic powers.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was never, you're not allowed to be a psychic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that probably was over where.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but he used his power.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he was always
[SPEAKER_02]: refusing to admit it.
[SPEAKER_02]: How about that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think he has an issue with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And more terrain is powdery.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he still listening to Smith albums.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably true.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably no one listens to the Smiths.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're that old again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I assume your album are actually albums.
[SPEAKER_02]: I look at whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know music that you want to listen to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm old.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm out of loop.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not my style, but anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: We pick something, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody put it in the discord.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is the current most?
[SPEAKER_01]: We know the cure is the most email of all time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's old, too, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying only who's modern, emo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Billie Eilish?
[SPEAKER_01]: When come up?
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody put this in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Please.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't missed that, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just move on our day.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Typhus tells more Terri and don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a super powerful psycher.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can steer a student in the inventory.
[SPEAKER_02]: Typhus says, Typhus says, I'm going to steer our fleet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: through the immaterial by myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I myself don't have everyone, everyone get close.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get us through this storm.
[SPEAKER_01]: And more terian for whatever reason is like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that that sounds like a good plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I had to be like, really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he just said yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming he had like six other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he been practicing this speech for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, he's going to say no to this for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I'm going to say this over with yes and time was went.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, like, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are you sure?
[SPEAKER_01]: when we still went through a speech of mumbled in the corner, because I feel like I practiced.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be doing this for two days.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm still doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, this was obviously an incredible lie.
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as they enter the warp, Typhus just opens the ship up to Nargo.
[SPEAKER_01]: He opens all
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all ships can never go and just go through.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually don't remember from the books.
[SPEAKER_01]: He turned off the gallery fields or what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or if it was just that because Typhus was so inviting and neural had been waiting so he just forced his way through through.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't make a hundred percent on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it ritualed up because again, Typhus isn't in it by himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a ton.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's other people in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's, but it's everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then they allude to the fact that Typhus has cohorts on all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So whether they turned off the gather fields, whether they were just doing rituals.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows, but Nargal is.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in average.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it has a few stages.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to get through this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first stage is basically everyone just is paralyzed.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of this is happening and they are now currently.
[SPEAKER_02]: quotation marks lost in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we will, they're not lost because Typhus is steering.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying for the people that are not in the know, they are now a drift in the, it makes a difference to more terians.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you agree?
[SPEAKER_01]: Another key piece here is, as we're about to discuss what happens here, they're not aware of the existence of
[SPEAKER_01]: chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this, what's about to happen here is psychotic.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the space Marines all ready to just fall down their perilous list, which then leads to what's called the destroyer plague, which is not a plague.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a, well, I guess it's technically a plague.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a plague.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a plague.
[SPEAKER_01]: The story of plague is crazy because it's actually spread by warp flies.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are almost microscopic flies because you can't see them, but they're just they're just small enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like dust particles that fly around so that way they can fit through the cracks in your armor because obviously space marine armor would have cracks in it, right Brad?
[SPEAKER_01]: We have lots of cracks in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct things in.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the vacuum seal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it not not not not all the way?
[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of a vacuum.
[SPEAKER_02]: You'll get a distance, but you know, you're not going to get that job.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go down this wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: So these little flies then come in and they lay eggs inside of their victim, which then when they reach maturity burst, just make their organs burst open and a whole bunch of new flies come out and they just goes person to person.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how they destroy your plague is spread.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just goes person to person.
[SPEAKER_02]: So horrific because you don't die fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, actually, you don't die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yes, regular people would have died.
[SPEAKER_01]: Marie, because they would have exploded.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the problem is that what then happens is what's called Nergal's rot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So at this stage, it's the body because as when there's story of plague, it's not just Marie's anyone who gets hit with a story of plague.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did burst out yours from Marines because they can just exist longer.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They then begin to rot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So while they're still alive.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so.
[SPEAKER_01]: They float.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you, they float.
[SPEAKER_02]: They, well, they, this is a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is how ridiculous is insanity how the bloating is.
[SPEAKER_02]: They float so much that there's Sarah might armor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ben's from the internal building pushing out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like the pressure inside must have been just torturous.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, you're like, hey, that metal that's way tougher than steel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's bend.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's bending from my body.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in my body, it's not because my body is shifting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because there's so much swelling of pus and infection that's actually pushing out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the important piece is it doesn't come with death, just pain and suffering.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's even more to this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It also rots your soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: So not only is your body hurt, but your soul is actually rotting and decaying.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the pain here is unfathomable.
[SPEAKER_01]: most the idea a lot of them actually just you have two choices commit suicide which may or may not work because nargo's there or the whole time nor goes in your ear.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just waiting for you saying do you I can I can relieve you you I believe you it's now I will make it so you don't do yeah yeah that is always the again you go into the all of the stories and fantasy of
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he also relieves their suffering.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He takes away your suffering so you continue to rotten decay, but you're not in abject pain.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just like, oh, this is me now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, this is just, this just spreads through.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian out of the whole group actually gets, well, he's like of the worst of it, but Mortarian is the, is horrified by this because not only
[SPEAKER_01]: is are they space marines who as we've discussed numerous times or immune to toxins and poisons and virus is barbarous marines, but they're both who who take in extra toxins to make themselves extra resilient and they're just dropping my note here is pretty disappointing, Brad, when your anti-poison army fails falls to poison.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have no words.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are no words.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to get more quiet.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm more terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even more tearing, though, is succumbing to miracles rocked.
[SPEAKER_01]: And more tearing realizes he's pissed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's pause on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: More tear you, you make it like a quick thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: More tearing is
[SPEAKER_02]: might be the worst because he's tries a primer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's supernatural.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a demo guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing hurts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got ten times more than everyone else has and he's soldering through it because of the whole demo guy thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Martarian realizes this is Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus did this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he basically drags himself to the bridge of the ship to confront Typhus, who looks at him and just goes, yeah, I totally do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we're talking about like, like, like, and so with Typhus tells him, just accept Neurgon.
[SPEAKER_01]: and Mortarian beats Typhus to death.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's just beats him to death and stabs the through.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus also just doesn't do shit about it because he wants to show him the power of my Lord because as soon as he kills Typhus, Typhus resurrects because Nergull is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Nergull, I mean, Typhus, at this point in time, they're in the warp.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Nergull's power is
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't, if you've never once you alive your life, it just happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything you want to do is it just happens because you're in here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're in the immaterial, fully in the immaterial.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not just preaking in.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do anything you want here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he just pops back up.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh, yeah, he can do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're going to take what's actually really well written the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to press it down to like two minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also read this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I could fit this part of the book school.
[SPEAKER_01]: At one point when more terrians on his murder rampage to gather information,
[SPEAKER_01]: He resurrect Skrugor, who we're going to cover more in the next episode, but Grugor is back, and he is a plague.
[SPEAKER_01]: Grugor is the life eater virus.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually what they call him is the life eater virus.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: This drives me nuts because it's like, wait, Mark Terrain wasn't chaos, but then he made a demon.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I'm okay with this in a little bit, because
[SPEAKER_02]: because of everything happening with Horace and everybody pushing in the air, but this should yes, convincing everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were effectively a lot of the things that these worry-lodge did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Badly, was they convinced everyone that as long as you had a greater good
[SPEAKER_01]: And what everyone, well, I'm much more, everything more, Terian made a demon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but he didn't in his mind, he didn't make a deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, searching to see if demons were real.
[SPEAKER_01]: He could just look to the left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, it's right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he sacrificed people and that's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: eventually realizes that oh shit I've been on the road to darkness for well a long time I can't see but I'm so far down the road I can't see the light yeah and also until about right this second
[SPEAKER_02]: I still thought I was the good guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But part of this when he made Grulgore, Grulgore was, you know, his pawn effectively.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he could command Grulgore to everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: So back to the bridge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mordering his just killed Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus got back up, made fun of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mordering says, well, watch this.
[SPEAKER_01]: He brings in Grulgore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Grulgore kills Typhus again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Difis again is resurrected and then him and Grugor basically high five each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well Grugor is in Grugor at this point in time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's fully possessed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's, he's, he's the life feeder virus.
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: But the next bit is actually cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Grugor and Difis high five is making fun of Martarian for being an idiot and then Grugor suddenly just dissolves into a puddle.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as he dissolves into the puddle, all of his energy goes into the typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: And typhus basically doubles in size and becomes the bloated giant corpse.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, typhus is metal is cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: The mouth always been called both versions of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The original and the new one are really great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus then falls down as his body swells.
[SPEAKER_01]: sets up and just spotters out the word more and his body just millions and billions of these plague flies come out of his body and this is the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: The entire destroyer plague overwhelms the entire ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian is dropped to his knees.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, actually worse, he's lying on the ground and a puddle as he's rotting and knurgles just in his ear.
[SPEAKER_02]: He again makes the shitty D&D any fantasy trope because he's told, hey, I can take this away, I can make everything great, and he goes, I'm not going to look at any of the fine print.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and more tearing degrees.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as more tearing degrees, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The plague is still there, but the pain goes away, and the entire of the deathguard legion stand up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Martarian actually begins to convert at this point the demon prints you see today.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm completely transformed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we have the wings with the Mithka that models awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is that in Bellicore for I think best for the game model.
[SPEAKER_02]: Martarian has so much stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys have not painters in the in our channel and listening stuff, if you haven't got a chance to paint a Martarian, I highly recommend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me state that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Painors and gentlemen who are good at painting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, because it will cause that the motarian model, if you're not good at painting, is it, is it, is it, no, there's so many things that are happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll just cause it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also should do that part.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I should also do that part.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because there's got a lot of stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, motarian, the reason this is important is motarian rises, demon prints with the entire legion.
[SPEAKER_01]: But NERGLE knows who is true champion is.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the, and that's the origination of the destroyer?
[SPEAKER_01]: That this is true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Davis.
[SPEAKER_01]: So from there, we'll move on to kind of
[SPEAKER_01]: the end of the heresy where the analogy I had here is that typhus and libertarian become the cobra commander because they just they keep almost doing stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like that it for all of the end of the horse heresy novels.
[SPEAKER_01]: They get really close to doing something really, really important.
[SPEAKER_02]: because I hate when they use a specific legion or a thing to show how good other people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the iron ore has got to worst one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I've got wrecked in the store.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just saying, like, they are almost always winning.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing the thing, but it's always to set up someone else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody else doing something cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of why I just want to skip through this.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, the truth is is that, yeah, I mean, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: They, they almost breach the astronomical.
[SPEAKER_01]: They almost breach the Colossi gate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's always, it's always an almost, but it never does anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, but I'm saying it's always the, they pump them up to make the other people look better when they, yeah, defeat them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, just, very quickly, so that's the end of the horse heresy.
[SPEAKER_01]: after the heresy and the scouring the deathguard just boogie out out back into the eye of terror.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't split them as well as a lot of other legions completely
[SPEAKER_01]: don't know that they went back as one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, more tearing once there is just sad because he realizes to more parents, credit, he realizes he just became the care.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is everything he always, he never wanted to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's, well, it's worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give you this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: He became everything that he swore not to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: But wait, there's more.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's also a servant to another.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only did it become the thing that he hated, but he went full circle back to.
[SPEAKER_02]: can a slave.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so to make his life better, he takes a planet in the eye of terror and names it plague planet, which I believe my note is a plus naming by GW guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Way to way to really phone this one in.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, Latin, plaga, you could have just gone with plaga, but no, plague planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he wants to pout for forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he remakes Barbara with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this time, he put himself into care's fortress.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just going to, he's like, I was going to hang out here for eternity.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it doesn't think that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Typhus tells me to go out of himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus is pissed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Typhus basically, you can be just one or two ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: The way that they wrote it, which is fine, which is that Typhus is just so loyal to Nervole that he wants to do is bidding and impress him, which is probably, which is exactly what you've met.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I'll do whatever I want.
[SPEAKER_01]: I read the Typhus, which is born at ADHD.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there was just like, but there's there's living things we can go corrupt.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he decides to just become a legendary figure within chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he also insults his soul.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't even give.
[SPEAKER_02]: He talking about people that didn't read the dots line.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh, yeah, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing on that below that dotted line that I cared about.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Typhus
[SPEAKER_01]: Effectively gives more tearing the finger because he tells them off for does this then grow goes and grabs a termist asked battleship and just goes back into the chair.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do need to point it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not a lot of times we're saying, you know, told him off.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, type is goes to more Terry walks up to him and says
[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, your trash, you don't serve Nargal, I serve Nargal.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he leaves.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he has no reason to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He could just left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was important in.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the term assessed one little, this isn't important, but I like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The terminess asked it, the entirety of deathguard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus goes to leave.
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that we're not going to cover in this cast is some of like the individual like units and vehicles of deathguard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone who plays deathguard or has seen deathguard on the table, they know the deathguard vehicles, but they look like, you know, they actually have, they have teeth.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're, they've got used.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're now, they are, they've been moving entities.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the coolest ones of this is the Terminus S. Battleship, which now is a living battleship.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's white still around.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bone, teeth, rotting, flesh, all over it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it regenerates.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Terminus S has been defeated multiple times.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it just still isn't just back into the war, but you can then go back and up and it will heal itself up because it is a living ship.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's it's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and some terminus asked because that it's also it's not really subtle.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when it arrives in your system, you're aware it's there because it
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of stands out a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just tight this, then decides to just spread disease into K throughout the Emperor, the Imperium.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I laughed at this because we mean, we've been kind of comparing to Abadon and Armon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Abadon was obsessed with overthrowing the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's everything he wanted to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: arm on, wanted to learn the secrets of the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's usually, they could save his legion from it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus just wanted to do the things.
[SPEAKER_02]: The truth is, Father, follower of a God.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only plan he has is the bidding of, and he realized, and Typhus goes hard to the paint for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the first one he does is he just takes the destroyer plague, which is what can murder his legion over.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just start spreading it throughout the galaxy, planet by planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem with this, though, is that the destroyer plague is too effective.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it's, but it's too effective, but it's also limited.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the destroyer plague, it's incredibly contagious.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it spreads through bugs, but it spreads really quickly and infects everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the example I use for those of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the world is Ebola.
[SPEAKER_01]: We always talk about Ebola, I don't know, Ebola outbreak, but it always goes away.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because the Ebola, it's the virus, it infects, so it has almost no incubation period, it's almost instant.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it kills you really quickly, so it's hard for it to spread.
[SPEAKER_01]: The story of plague will conquer a planet, but it doesn't, it's so quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard for it to get off planet, because you become plague bears, you become beacons of the plague, but you don't have that situation where someone can like end up sneaking on to a ship and they're maintaining off-world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Typhus is not going to be held back by this and he decides to just go, all right, I'll just put it in more worlds.
[SPEAKER_01]: primarily high of high worlds and forward to worlds.
[SPEAKER_02]: He kills trillion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does take it a special interest in his shrine worlds though.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does like doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is just because he he's him.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a big deal because at this point in time for a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nergal goes from
[SPEAKER_02]: the number three or four God to the number one God.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because of this and it's because of Typhus.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one person, like literally one guy's efforts, completely shift the balance of power in the Imperial Immaterial.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus, the Nurgle really likes himself some Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, though, this is where I love Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going through all this and Typhus realizes he's just not doing enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, I am killing trillions in service of niracle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he actually goes back to Nurgle's garden to start figuring out what can we do.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's with Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's later.
[SPEAKER_01]: First, the fire part is that he won't.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in Nurgle's garden.
[SPEAKER_01]: An army of corn invades.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because as we said in those cast, they would randomly attack each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus single handedly kills a demon prince.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: which I also will not import my fun side note.
[SPEAKER_01]: It occurred in bubbling gully.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was actually the name of everything from Nergolas.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's always great.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have the current bubbling gully.
[SPEAKER_01]: So after Typhus kills a demon prince of corn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nergol goes, hey man, why don't you come and come up here and let's give you real tour of the facility in myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Nergol actually allows
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus to dip his man reaper in the pool that sits around Nervous throne, which turns it into a, basically a true weapon of play.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an artifact.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but unfortunately, they didn't give it a cool name.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the only one.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got hit in the he has a side that's been dipped in the past.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just called the things powered side that's, it doesn't reaper.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the just man reaper.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, yeah, anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: But more importantly, Typhus has now been given full access to the Nurgle's garden, and he can make his own place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's, in Nurgle's garden is unlimited plague.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has access to everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's got mixing and matching.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where Typhus gets to be kind of actually funny slash.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's horrific.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's horrific, but he starts making up new plagues to torture he managed with.
[SPEAKER_02]: their specific place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the first one, which is a bit more normal, he does a shrine-world name, Johan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what he does with Johan is he creates a pandemic that just makes it so every male who just touches the planet is that he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this idea because the Imperium then just has to abandon the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't do anything with it because you can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could put us sisters there, but no one could ever check on them if they're male because they auto die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the first one.
[SPEAKER_01]: The next one though is the better one, which is Legata.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he unleashes something called a plague song.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to read this three times because I was like, there's no IgW actually was this funny and they were.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing as the destroyer plague, but the entire time.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Nana's though what they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the entire time as you're rotting, you sing a song.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone, the entire planning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nonstop until they fully rock away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they can't stop themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, they're conscious.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, because why not be a dick, make them aware as their bodies move, not because they want them to, because they're gay.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just have to.
[SPEAKER_01]: He made a plague song and he needed this one time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, that's all I can play.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this should be it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, this is like dumb rules for GW.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me this, give me this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: My opponent has to sing a song.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, then we get into what is in the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is forty-k.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had his fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: He decides to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is horrific.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's seven hours right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The zombie plague doesn't kill you even remotely right away.
[SPEAKER_02]: you are a passenger in your own body, which, again, he did in that in the song, he did it, but this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then this is so much worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the zombie plague is all, as a couple pieces of a couple piece to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first one is that it's actually not spread person, the person.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's spread through the warp.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it affects, it can only infect someone who's lost all hope or faith in their own life.
[SPEAKER_01]: pretty good target for high worlds.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just gonna say, so everybody in a high world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once infected, you rock from the inside out.
[SPEAKER_01]: You cough yourself to death.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as you die, like the moment you die, you reanimate as a zombie that then bites people and gives them the play.
[SPEAKER_01]: So also can spread that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the best thing about this, I can.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are still in your body and you have zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're literally a passenger.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're in your mode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and I also like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The irony of this is this is the only time that the weird Ecclesiarchy thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, actually help spray away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the clues are key.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're in a high world, the people who are praying away, the virus actually will survive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like for once, praying away will.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we spend about two thousand years of this just terrorizing the Imperium.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is when no one becomes the.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because yeah, the first, well, the first example of Brad's point was seven, five, seven of them, forty one, the hydra, my Norris is the high of city.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Imperium decides just to call the planet a loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty three billion citizens are lost in the plague.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then he starts just jumping around all over the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's just, and this is the, this is how insidious.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is why Nergal is the most
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because Typhus does Tokyo drift drive by's.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just infects planets and leaves.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing is, is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Neurgle isn't something where you can battle line.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all of the other gods you can show up and you can fight the a neural just in there and he's there and he's weights.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll fast forward a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Typhus is having a time his life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we get to like, two thousand seventeen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So GW decides to release a primarque, and they release more tearing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which means we have to bring more tearing back into the lore.
[SPEAKER_01]: I said, because more tearing was effectively out of the lore.
[SPEAKER_01]: For six thousand more years.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of his addition wise, I mean, he never had a model.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: They barely even mentioned it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's my point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he comes back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he comes back and he comes back aggressively.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give GW credit we're going to do here.
[SPEAKER_01]: They bring him back, but they still keep Typhus as a number.
[SPEAKER_01]: One, we'll get there in a minute.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Katie has fallen.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Great Rift has split the galaxy in half.
[SPEAKER_01]: And more tearing decides just to be on team neural now.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's our spread and disease.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he also goes baller style because he's like, hey, what's the place that's never been conquered?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he just goes, I'm going to the realm of Ultramar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the tirades did a few hundred years before that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't again.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't succeed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Never.
[SPEAKER_02]: They did not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said never been conquered.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wonder if it's more carrying succeed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a podcast and I told a story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can be honest about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other person, the other primar came back into addition was Bobby G. Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here it gets his ass kicked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every single way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: His army, the plague.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all bets.
[SPEAKER_01]: And more tearing comes back to the two thousand, seventeen's right before the beginning of eighth edition, right, started eighth edition.
[SPEAKER_01]: They come in.
[SPEAKER_01]: The plague wars are actually more in ninth edition, but Gilman has returned.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's now, he's now running the Imperium.
[SPEAKER_01]: And more terian decides to go hit his home world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Bobby.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's not happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Bobby G does not take this well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he, jesus, bookies over to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also, at the time, hasn't is leading the largest army since their crusades.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he started the endominus crusade.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he had pumping out primaries, Marines.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has a gigantic arm.
[SPEAKER_01]: But more tearing is not alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got two people with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: One is actually Typhus, who's only there because
[SPEAKER_01]: when we're tearing says, hey, I'm going to go attack ultra mar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Difus goes, yeah, that sounds fun to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's got a great unclean one with him, whose name I'm forgetting off top of my head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did he not bring Rodriguez in a one point time?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it hit every name because Rodriguez, I remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Typhus,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, all right, let's do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Before they go, Typhus does have it out with more tearing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he says, before they go and end a tackle tomorrow, he tells more tearing, I have no respect for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only reason I'm doing this is for Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so basically, don't mistake my presence for support because I will drop you in a second if I have to.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also does this on the bridge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: In front of everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes this is hates more talent.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also gives no shits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually don't like what.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because our amount is not this nasty.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Leave it runs all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying to Mac, like, this is the only way I can think of who's this in subordinate.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because he was face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's pretty hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't do it like in a, I'm in a video chat with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does it from, hey, man, I can touch you right now and screw yourself.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So initially, more tearing the deathguard, like always, are very successful.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're ripping through all trim our moving away, but then Gilliman appears.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as Gilliman arrives, the thing about Gilliman, Gilliman can fight, depending on which data sheet you have of him through the errors, fight better or worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, other versions of himself,
[SPEAKER_01]: But Gilliman more importantly is an incredible general for those of us who paid early eighth edition when he could.
[SPEAKER_02]: Full hits, yeah, full hits, three rolls of hits and ones, but also, but that was accurate though.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how probably she was.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he also doesn't just do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: He also has a team of scientists that are constantly working on
[SPEAKER_01]: how to fix it strategically.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's he's bombing his own guys, but he's bombing them with cures.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And things that halt this and they don't let it mutate.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's actually taking back the planets because that's the problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of these.
[SPEAKER_02]: I fought off all the plague Marines.
[SPEAKER_02]: I fought off all the plague bears the nergling
[SPEAKER_02]: thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But my plan is still ruined.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had ten billion jackswalkers.
[SPEAKER_02]: He ended that in a lot of these plans.
[SPEAKER_01]: As Gilliman is, if you look at all of the primarks in my opinion, Gilliman is the ultimate for a small supplier.
[SPEAKER_01]: You put Gilliman in there and just your forces fight fifty, sixty percent better, which is again why early eight edition Gilliman was Star Wars fans.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a battle meditation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just saying me so early at the edition, Gilliman had a bubble of full reroll hits and wounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had to take it away from him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was, it was so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was that with hell blasters double.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can just put in and you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but with hell blasters, it was extra spicy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, Gilliman then turns the battle.
[SPEAKER_01]: As the battle's turning, Nurgle just kind of gets bored, because now it stagnates and just, and he's not pushing more worlds for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is now a fight, and that is for his brothers to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a corn type thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm out.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a celestial nest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like, hey, man, this isn't what I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is boring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone come home and Typhus goes to Lee, but Mark Martarian at stay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he wants to kill Gilman actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only reason he wants to kill Gilman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he just he specifically wants to go kill Jim and Typhus again takes a moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: before leaving, looks more caring in the eye, and tells him to go to hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, he basically tells him also, you're in this for all their odd race.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a fact.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives him a weird speech, be a team player kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Typhus was completely correct because the reason that that marked that the
[SPEAKER_01]: Nurgle wanted them to pull out was he knew that there was a bigger danger here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mortarian actually does be Gillian.
[SPEAKER_01]: He pins Gilliman to the ground and actually breeds plague into Gilliman's mouth, which kills Gilliman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Except Gilliman has just not that long ago been standing in front of the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_02]: for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hangin' out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gilliman, as he's about to die, the light of the Emperor reaches him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't blow up.
[SPEAKER_02]: You put explodes, but he effectively gives a freaking Naruto, I don't even know, like, what's the, I don't watch anime so I need you.
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He power the little ten thousand and then and just be gives him a beam of death.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the beam would reach is into the war.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is in with a soul attack.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this beam shoots out of Gilliam and it's beam of like into Mortarian.
[SPEAKER_01]: But because of its source power, it actually destroys Nervole's garden.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a little bit more tacky.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, good job, more Terran.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, neither say more Terran then gets back.
[SPEAKER_01]: to the immaterial and it gets yelled at again, this time by Typhus and Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he just ruined, like, hey man, remember when you ruined everything?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, remember we told you not to do this?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, also good job on winning the fight and losing the war.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you guys are, you, you are useless.
[SPEAKER_01]: He Typhus is livid by the way at this moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely livid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, unfortunately for the current timeline of deathguard,
[SPEAKER_02]: After all of this happened, they went in a different direction and just kind of went, you lost and moved on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it's, they stop being the, the plop child of GW.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this, that, that basically brings us to Tenth Edition where we have Typhus is still raging.
[SPEAKER_01]: More tearing is howling, but is, is, is appear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Typhus is still trying to push the destroyer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not be playing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to push that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's still doing a good job of it, but it's a side plot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, every, as we move through additions, different people come up and right now, Jim, it's been in a Zeno kick, which I fully support.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Terry is coming in, and that's just way more interesting to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, with that, that's kind of, I think,
[SPEAKER_01]: a good enough coverage for deathguard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it brings us completely where we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it sets a good stage for what the dynamic right now for Nurtilus and deathguard.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where the people have asked me about deathguard episode, this we're going to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I didn't play diving into the individual units of deathguard because they're not, they take twenty minutes of, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the overall, it's just, I think, I think the story of deathguard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, one thing that happened is we were right in this is, um, we wrote about Nathaniel Garrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brake, I'll talk about Nathaniel Garrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no way we're not going to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So next week, we're going to start, we're going to do a two-part coverage of the Grey Nights.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be the first episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not actually going to be about the Grey Nights.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more about their origin.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has nothing to do with the Grey Nights.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's have another, I mean, with the Orbside Nights.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has the, it is a literal story that at the end goes,
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then, and then we're going to stop with that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, you're going to appreciate what I did here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So next week, we're diving into the origins of the grainites with the Knights, Aaron, and the flight of the eyes of the Stein.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Brad's going to be happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But until then, this has been John Barsotti and Brad Jester.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: See you then.
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