[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Forty Kaylor cast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Forty K. Lorcats, me John Barsati and Brad Chester.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So for those of you who want to play the game on the tabletop, not just the lore, Brad is a Forty K coach.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you tell me how to do it?
[SPEAKER_03]: All the, you know, through I've been playing the game for a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even I've got a tournament coming up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All the way, though, if you're like, hey, I want to go win.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually, I've been, you know, I've been doing really well at tournaments, but I've never won one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you help me?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I don't have any of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of getting ready for certain things or talking every week, I have
[SPEAKER_00]: All of everything and all of it in between.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Old man, Brad at forty K. Old man, Brad at gmail.com.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So onto the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: So as we covered in the last episode, the elder walk a path.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just say that you guys are so funny story.
[SPEAKER_03]: We just finished recording our last episode and only to discover that I never pressed record.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to let you know the level of anger I had at myself is pretty high right now and Brad and I discussed
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not re-recording yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're doing this one first.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, that's a thing that happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hi, my name's John.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not great at this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It also happened five minutes ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, but we did open a new bottle of multiple chano one.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've moved the meal mice, we're still at McDonald's.
[SPEAKER_03]: The meal me, we're still drinking the meal me, but today we're trying to do a little trip down Keyon T Lane.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, all right, back to this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Elder walk up half.
[SPEAKER_03]: Each of the paths is designed to help keep them away from the anarchy and depravity of the fall.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every path benefits the L-D-R in one way or another.
[SPEAKER_03]: This paths for artisans.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's paths for musicians.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's paths for scientists.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we're playing a table top board game.
[SPEAKER_00]: A table top bat on game.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're rocking and rolling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's focus on the one that matters to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Half of the war here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now again, as we said last time, all L. D. R. No matter the path or trained in a level of war, they become the guardians, which are basically the militia of the elder, but
[SPEAKER_03]: that militia defeated Abadan.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when we say an Eldon militia, that's my position.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my point.
[SPEAKER_03]: We say militia.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not talking about a bunch of like weekend warriors who kind of get together and go out and do drills.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about a militia that could take down a bad news crusade and did.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, just for comparisons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once an LDR has chosen a path of a warrior, there are one of two things that will happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: They will either do the path until they feel they've reached completion, and they'll transfer to something else like a warlock, or they will decide that this path is the only way for them, and they want nothing more than perfection at it, at which point they will become what's called an X arc.
[SPEAKER_03]: which is the most powerful of the aspect warriors.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a finished line.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So X arcs, we would dive into this a little bit, is the term they use for them is they say that they have fallen into Keynes influence and they become a priest of Keynes when X arc is and every aspect has these.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and the thing about them is while training in the shrines,
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: These never let up.
[SPEAKER_00]: They train specifically, and whatever they're trying is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're not learning, we're one of the different aspects of warriors, but they're not learning any of the other aspects of warriors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is what they do?
[SPEAKER_03]: They are the best at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they become this weird combination of like drill sergeant slash like super warrior because they're super aware, but they're also like the
[SPEAKER_00]: weird, oh, not spiritual leader, but kind of of there, because each you have different multiple shrines on different platforms.
[SPEAKER_03]: On the table top, it's actually easier to explain this via the table top.
[SPEAKER_03]: So on the table top when you have an aspect warriors, the X arc will actually have better weaponry than the rest of the rest of the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: And more wounds and often times a better ballistic skills sometimes even than the rest of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they've the X arcs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the sergeant in a space marine is kind of there.
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are the bodies and others.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The knobs are a little bit better in orcs.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this isn't me shooting on town.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't play town.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I have this.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have a sergeant.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: They do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Does he matter?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this isn't me shooting on top.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is just like I believe they don't know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, whereas the X arc is more powerful, I have one quite a few games in ninth edition with my X arcs being alive.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a squad being dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in previous editions, some of the X arcs for some of the units, they didn't want you didn't want the unit, you just wanted the X arcs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's ripping off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's ripping off.
[SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: We both go here going on this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's an X arc and I guess you four guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, those four guys I only included in the list because I had to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't care.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just need this dude strike a scorpion to that dude hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of guys have sustained hits were bringing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and of course, uh, it's the, uh, the X arc for the howling banches with a dual mirror sorens where it's like, oh, how many taxes she get?
[SPEAKER_03]: All of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the ex-sarks funnel die type, but it's worth it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The ex-sarks also wear a special suit of armor that can be upwards of ten thousand years old that carries a special spirit stone in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So every time an ex-sark dies, if they put another person dawns the armor, they actually gain all the knowledge of everyone else who's ever worn the armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little lower power than the Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's still a segue to something we're going to be covering later, where holy crap, this can this concept power up to infinity.
[SPEAKER_03]: X arcs.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, as we said in the last cast, I know if you heard, but we'll we'll record it and do it again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eldar are one of the few armies in the game where they're table top and they're lower lineup really well for a short period of time before GW has to nerf the ever living.
[SPEAKER_00]: Things like XR can't be played at the point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the way they are because a single XR would just murder half the board.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's been, I mean, let's call a spade a spade here, there's been some rules we've had where they kind of did.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what's with the swooping out here, I start my, my most hits ever is thirty-six.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: So one guy got thirty-six hits.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think the strike scorpions and one could, could at one point, at least they got a baby night single handed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, easy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a tooth.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had a tooth.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a tooth.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had a tooth.
[SPEAKER_03]: So ex-arks have kind of a couple of very simple purpose.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's maintain the armory of the aspect, which is called a shrine, and train support lead the other aspect warriors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which they say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're ultra-powering things.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like sensei.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that a lot better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They go they wage war.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they do and they love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they want to wage war again in the specific way that their shrine wages war.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually a big thing on this because the ought to, well, back it up to last week's.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the oughtaarks, the people that lead the path of command, take these different shrines and make them work together because the shrines do not give a shit about each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, about the overall plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: We do the thing we help me when to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did it when it's go time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is the one of the big things about the other though is we give shit about a couple of things, but like they just believe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like so much in the way of their path, that I don't need to know about what the hell you're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do what I do in the aspect shrines.
[SPEAKER_03]: The aspect shrines are I really do love them.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are amazing because they are war perfected, but not war in total.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to pick one aspect of war and we are going to do it perfectly.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So with that stuff here,
[SPEAKER_03]: We have held bread back long enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do some two parts.
[SPEAKER_03]: The first part we're going to dive into are all the aspects themselves and then we're going to come back around for round two where we're going to dive into the Phoenix lords.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do that because the Phoenix lords themselves are actually these year to tell back to back to back words if I if I didn't ask the right Phoenix lord they interact with each other also.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the stories.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think if we were to do like a aspect with its Phoenix Lord, then doing those aspects, things like you'd be, you guys would be trying to go like, wait, what were they saying five minutes ago or six minutes ago?
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why we're separating it that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just list the aspects out so you guys understand them and then we'll dive into the first.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have Crimson Hunters, Brad Hates airplanes, and I'll be anyone who played the game in the addition also hates these airplanes.
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't like minus four to hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Crimson Hunters, they're one of the most, I would say historically outside of space, wolf invisible wolves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Crimsoners are probably the top five most hated models all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: They may get dark rebers who aren't that far off, who are good at ranged combat, dire Avengers who are close range shooting.
[SPEAKER_03]: fire dragons who I'd drunk burned them with fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Howling banches who were kind of fast close combat as opposed to striking scorpions who are hard hitting close combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hold on for our tile people.
[SPEAKER_00]: The striking scorpions follow the patient hunter.
[SPEAKER_03]: They do fall prisoner, but they're actually good at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: then you have shining spears who are fast attack bikes and lastly, what actually my personal favorite, the shadow specters who are the most forged world of forged world.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll explain that in a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: They also have a sketch past too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I forgot swooping hoax and warp spiders.
[SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you should probably mention that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which probably shouldn't mention that in things that are hated.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they're not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not as bad as computers.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, but shooting and then leaving is, yeah, it works by to spend some fun rolls over the years.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's looping hox.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've had some really fun rolls over the years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not for anybody else, but for the first time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, those are some playing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's start off with what is actually the original aspect and the bread and butter of the aspect warriors.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a dangerous.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want to put them down, but it's also the easiest to get in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you went from guardian to dire venture and it's the easiest of the, yeah, the dire event is really art just, you know, done up guardians.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're, I mean, they're more, you know, for the elder fans on that, they're more than that, but I'm saying it's the easiest to go to make the transition.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it's a skill that you have to have
[SPEAKER_03]: Here, no matter what exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're just going to the next level, you got drawn by this path because you already had to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And especially, I don't know, cough coughs, you're a deal tan.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just making you go there anyways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, man, I saw you shoot a gun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you shoot it for real?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know, one of the things I was funny, as I'm looking at the notes, I realized I didn't mention earlier.
[SPEAKER_03]: All the aspects have their own paint and color scheme.
[SPEAKER_03]: So whereas most armies, most armies you play in the game, you paint the whole army and your color scheme.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Eldar, you paint your kind of your standard Eldar with your color scheme.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then your aspect where you're supposed to be their own colors.
[SPEAKER_00]: And each shrine has their own color.
[SPEAKER_00]: And each shrine has their own color that transfers over a two no matter what craft.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're a Yend and Beal Tam, whatever, as you still do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Personally, for those of you who are building an old army, what I do is I just use the Aspects key colors as the accent on my model.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it my cost?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good point though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Make your shit around to be honest.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do you?
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to make, if you want to follow the narrative and paint it narrative, do it this way, but also if you're kind of like, well, hey, I had a cool color scheme for my army and I want to keep it that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I did is I just, I have, I have all my shoulder palerins and my, something like my helmets are done with the aspect.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how I separate them out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, starting, and I know with that, Avengers, their colors are dark blue and black with white highlights.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's, you know, so it's, it's a blue army, black Paul Dremes, and usually some white because they, they wear a big, arrested helmet with a fancy mohawk.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that you just said, big, arrested.
[SPEAKER_00]: They wear a gigantic helmet that is almost as big as their body.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not as bad as it used to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: The plastic versions have come down quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Used to be all hell nobody horrendous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Helmet was this big.
[SPEAKER_00]: The body was the quarter inch.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, they carry a sure can catapult which shoots out razor sharp discs.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm shit none of them in the next cast.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're juiced up, catapult.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, they fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to make fun of later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's one of the things is that they they fire up better version of it that fires a little bit longer.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so what the, what the Avengers are able to do is they also carry one of the more complex suits of armor.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually up there with a space marine armor, except that all the pieces actually work correctly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's true, I was to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for example, every time every time you're a vendor, yeah, I'll talk in a poison.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every dire Avenger has a what they call pan spectral scanner, which I described best as the thing predator has, except doesn't shoot just kind of keeps track of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the big of thing on Dyer Avengers, and they've had it over time, or they've done a decent job of it on the board, and is Dyer Avengers should be shooting Overwatch, which is when other things move or come into your zone.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do shoot it better, but it should be, you stay on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fines wasn't her force.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now they ain't on fries and they could have they used to be able to throw their original ballistic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Original ballistic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they could.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they were horrifying and Overwatch and they have a lot of shots.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also can fire at full speed.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've always been able to advance and shoot at no penalty.
[SPEAKER_03]: So because that's what the other diver just supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: A dire vendor's purpose on a table top is to kind of burst out of something either from behind a wall or from inside of a wave or which is a transport and just put down this withering amount of firepower.
[SPEAKER_03]: But be gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was not meant to like, you know, not like covering fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they came out and killed something and then disappeared.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: They go on a wall back into the transfer, back into whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And over the years, they've done
[SPEAKER_00]: of a various degree of being able to continue to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and the thing about that, Avengers is like, nothing to it, the Brad's point about the Overwatch.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also are accounting, you can't surprise them.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if they're sitting somewhere and you kind of come around the corner and yell, ha, surprise, you're already there already.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they knew you were coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're waiting for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of times, they're not as much in the thing, but in previous years and in the lore, they're often accompanied by Sears.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they might be in the unit, but they kind of are in the unit.
[SPEAKER_03]: They always worked really well with Sears.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, just the way the way, again, I think held our plays well, table top versus lower.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way it would work on the table top is yeah, we would, they would just all hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: They would shoot, they would all hit in all room.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was like, thirty shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you got the fact that they could put an interval on them with a psychic.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can make their, they're saved plus one more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were nasty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm saying they did lots of things with us that they are one of the units that does a pretty decent job from Lord a tabletop in several of the issues.
[SPEAKER_03]: The next one jump into our dark reapers.
[SPEAKER_03]: So dark reapers are, they wear black when they look purple with white highlights, but they have skulls on their masks, which is interesting because the old art, the skull, paint on their mask is not the same shape as an old art head.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's a side note.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more like the predator logo.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're the heavy weapons James though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they use, yeah, reaper launchers, which are missile launchers that make ad max elevate is how I explained it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't need to reload their missile launchers by the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just auto reload.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they don't have to carry that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have anti-infantry and anti-armor missiles that can shoot anytime.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're sniper level accurate with these.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, have they've ever been a problem at tabletop for actually Jesus?
[SPEAKER_00]: I, dark readers were bad for all of most of tenth until like, right, the second if you want some indirect.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm saying that's this is why.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They got plenty of enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: In eighth edition, forty K. Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were a problem because they could fire multiple times.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just, the thing is, is that, yes, they were a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably, when they were a problem, probably the most accurate to lure they've ever been.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because in lure, these are midnight warriors that are coming out shooting from devastating hails of fire, from their almost snipers.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not, but they are.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're heavy weapons teams, but they come out in.
[SPEAKER_03]: And kill for distance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Roy from a distance.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they are.
[SPEAKER_00]: They barely pop out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the game, that's how you were playing them.
[SPEAKER_00]: But just that's what they do in the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: They count destroying something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just standing there like a terminator squad going, we can't be stopped.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're heavy weapon steams that kept peaking, you know, going, we're exactly where they're needed.
[SPEAKER_00]: But why they're so devastating.
[SPEAKER_00]: And why I said, even when they were a problem, they were very close to lure is because again,
[SPEAKER_00]: far seers, more lie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you're different seers were telling them, you guys should set up shop right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our unary cast is going to be hilarious when we had to explain that the unary lore, and then why did you just try to drop it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it was broke.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because yet, a lot of lies in broke lore is amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: The lore is amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dark Reapers were double shooting.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Dark Reapers were shooting in the opponents' turn, not Overwatch.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were horrifying in that edition.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they were cool as shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now we'll do the quick hit from one bread as I want to talk about, which just comes in honors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because actually, in his addition, his baddest dark readers work, these were worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the red planes, these are the airplanes, their red or highlights are bone, the great bone color and black.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the truth on airplanes, guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were introduced in sixth edition, and I would say more than fifty percent of the player base, which they'd never been interested in.
[SPEAKER_03]: players can go to airplanes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Players can have they conduct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest thing about this is again, you're taking someone and going, hey, I need you to figure out the best way to fly this craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: How long do I have?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say, five hundred years and you figure it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Weirdly enough, these guys can pull some maneuvers off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and we'll talk about it a little bit more in the next aspect of the jetpiker.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, Eldard, don't really get affected by G forces.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're maneuverability that they pull out of their tanks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just says no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the width of their maneuverability is insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: The way they do it, we talk is they can completely go one eighty on their planes and things of that nature.
[SPEAKER_00]: So these are just ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they always happen, since they came out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And while I don't like aircraft in the game,
[SPEAKER_00]: of these guys just being top gun times a thousand kind of people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Laura from the Hunters are awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that in the eighth edition, I could make them minus four to hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: These are the staff guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're so stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, look at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's minus four to hit when you're rolling six.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's minus four to hit and your ballistic skills are three.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you actually need to roll a seven on a six-sided dice to hit.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, let's dive into things that are actually, you know, more fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Brad loves these fire dragons.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fire dragons are boss mode.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fire dragons are one orange, which is a color I can see and I think it's sweet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or actually they're actually red.
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, up in your face, they're orange and I'm sticking with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're actually red, they're red with orange and yellow.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're orange.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love everything about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they've got a fusion gun, which is effectively, we did the melted.
[SPEAKER_00]: We did the impaired there.
[SPEAKER_00]: The guns of the imperium.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a fusion gun is just a better melty gun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the shoot melted.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't miss with their melty and their melty actually hits harder than everyone else's
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it other bonuses because of the seers because of their combos, they're almost always just striking whatever they want to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and they've really embraced the elder perfection of Aene.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the idea of a fire dragon shooting its fusion gun versus like a space marine firing a melted gun is that the fire dragon will always shoot its fusion gun at the weakest point of the enemy's armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can see cause the most destruction and they know it, whether they know because of the far seers guiding them.
[SPEAKER_00]: or whether they know because of their training, but they know exactly where to shoot to cause the most damage of a parent.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they actually carry something I love in the game, which are Melta bombs, which is- Yes, they do just justice to Melta bombs now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're useless now, but they used to be something where it was, because the Melta bomb was kind of in the guy, I think the guy's sci-fi action, like a C-four thing, you'd slap on a tank and run away, but this is
[SPEAKER_03]: a melta bomb it would explode with the power of a son and would just destroy a vehicle.
[SPEAKER_03]: So these to carry those, the number one way of fighting is to jump as a Falcon would jump out of nowhere and then out of the Falcon would jump a bunch of fire dragons and they would just eliminate for our goal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's go into why that's so devastating.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things we haven't talked about in the Falcon is the fact that it has a rule called deep strike
[SPEAKER_00]: which means that it now didn't always though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, saying now that it's it's super nasty, but it should have always.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it used to have sky strike, whatever, in the lore, these are spacecraft, which in the middle of a battle are plummeting down at breakneck speeds and then putting on the sky breaks because sci-fi.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And dumping guys out.
[SPEAKER_00]: and immediately kill.
[SPEAKER_03]: And those guys come out shooting the power of the sun at the enemy and then just oh look, that's all gone now that worked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and in the game all in the Lord, they just load back up and roll out and the game there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they've got one of the better Phoenix lords.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, their X arc is also nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're about to look at the Phoenix of Wager.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's free.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fwerdens just like nanopaths.
[SPEAKER_03]: Next, we'll jump and do, uh, suping hocks.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are light blue with white and green trim, and they have wings.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll give GW credit.
[SPEAKER_03]: They actually wrote these wings correctly.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you read the, the code X is it says on the wings, basically the, but look like feathers do actually vibrate, which creates left.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how they are, they are flying around, but they're not slapping their wings.
[SPEAKER_03]: If anyone who, who hasn't seen what's a pizza last name,
[SPEAKER_03]: the comedian who the police professor Xavier and he fires the house for those who haven't seen peat homes on youtube as professor Xavier firing xman go to the one where he fires hawk half of the people can fly
[SPEAKER_03]: You're a bird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so it's swooping hoax, so the cool thing about them is that the meant to do is not really necessarily destroy anybody's harass and set up the next attack.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the big thing is that not only they're harassing their guns, the last talents have a overwhelming, a volume of fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just, they're putting out a hail of the fly over top of an opponent at the break next drop-ups and drop grenades on them and shoot at them, which makes the opponent ideas either freezes them in place or exposes them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, as a single unit member, it is for the aspect warriors are not deployed solo.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're part of an overall force, and each aspect has a role to play.
[SPEAKER_03]: The dire Avengers roles a bit more on being honest and take all commerce, but you know, whereas we just accept dark green brewers are kind of picking stuff all from afar.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fire dragons are coming in tight and pulling up armor.
[SPEAKER_03]: The swooping hawks are just there to jack up the enemies infantry primarily, expose them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they've all done sky leap, which is their big rule, their ability, which is they just keep, they do this, they drop their grenades, they shoot something up, and then they leave.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they rinse and repeat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some more else, and you never know, and the lore, you never know where they're going to reach the table top to me, honest.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you never know where they're coming from.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know that they're there, and they basically slow the idea is they slow an enemy down, because they keep looking up at the sky, waiting for these things to jump out of it and jack with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, weirdly enough, they're one of the few aspect shrines, which just by the way that they're trained, and they're focused on them, is they are basically a buffer?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're a buffer aspect shine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, sweeping out.
[SPEAKER_00]: She do it great, but you are just a buff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you were to bring to a thousand points, a swoop in hoax, you probably might win because of weird rules, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm saying, like, your, the whole point of view is to expose to her, harass, to sit there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is what you do.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're helping out with everybody else, because then the fire dragon shoot you, the dark red ratio, either exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're basically exposing their position and or pinning them down and then you're gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your whole point.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the the best way for a swooping hog to be played and in the lore is no one ever gets no one even not only did no one die no one shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's all you know about them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I will say I never saw them until night edition.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were mad, except for the X-hack in the Superiox, and you can only take one.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, I'm still up until ninth edition.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll think I ever saw them, because they were just, no, it's just the old game.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you mean an X edition you could bring them?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, the Superiox X-hack, if you recall, is forever ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm sure I remember when their, because their main thing now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, no, I'm talking about the, the Superiox X-hack was third, fourth edition.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's twenty, four or five years ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was he good?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the scroll was terrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a power weapon with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: With the unlimited assistant assault.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you hit, you got another kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got how they're broken.
[SPEAKER_03]: It really just funded remind myself of how broken they've been over the years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what about broken warp speed ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's death against I.
[SPEAKER_03]: I personally love warp spiders.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love them from the lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love them from the tabletop, and I love them from the Dawn of Wargame.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am a fan of warp spiders in every facet I've ever seen them, and I understand if you don't play Eldar, why you disagree with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say, for people that don't love the warp spiders, because there's a couple of times, cough cough, seventh, and then when they can do really abusive shit right now, I think they're actually good.
[SPEAKER_00]: But warp spiders have always been great, lore versus tabletop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, because warp spiders use warp jump generators.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's talk about what they look like and then we'll go into there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Worthfighters, they're red and they're black with white trim and they've got this really terrible pose that they've had since they came out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be honest to everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the Russian model.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the Martell W makes a their own version of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I run because the regular ones look like shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, these guys are wearing some of the heaviest armor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Worthfighters are cool is shit because they actually wear this super heavy armor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't actually always translate in the rules, but decide not.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're faster than every other one except for maybe swooping hawks because they also have a jump generator, which means they go in and out of the warp instantly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they do legitimately teleport around the battlefield in the warp.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they can lose people and they've always had that, which I think is awesome because you're just like, I'm going to take a warp jump.
[SPEAKER_00]: in it with a killer field, are we making a rejection?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's done of war two, the opening cinematic shows this really well, where these things just disappear and reappear and shoot at you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, what the, like, they come out of, let me bonkers town, nowhere, but they also have a sick gun, which is the death spinner.
[SPEAKER_00]: The death spinner is good now, death spinner does not do justice to what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that spinner itself is.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like there's a little bit of spider man here, but it shoots a web is where it calls it a monofilament, which means that it goes between your molecules.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the sharpest thing on earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it cuts you in half.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what they actually do is even worse than that is it actually shoots out in the compact form.
[SPEAKER_03]: So as it comes out, it begins expanding.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's designed.
[SPEAKER_03]: So when it hits you, it expands out.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that the model filaments will find any hole in your armor and then go through there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or if you're just like a being, you'll just excited to slice through.
[SPEAKER_00]: Slice it, you just get diced up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like a tiny, you're a shark who you try.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it doesn't do that on the table top, but they're still actually really every aspect warrior.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a clear one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I used to be a wound on your initiative because the whole point is as you had to get the hell out of the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you couldn't just you couldn't take it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had to just take it out of the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just went cool man and sliced through you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't matter what your armor was.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love these guys in law.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're thinking, I'll do our, well, this is dark out.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're my favorites, man drinks, but this is close.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're talking warp spiders, I love the fact that they're bouncing in and out of the warp.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're taking casualties here and there because they're making blind warp jumps.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like legit.
[SPEAKER_00]: When they're doing them like, you know, forfeet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're, I mean, on the tabletop, they're still doing quarter miles sometimes of these words.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just like the warp spiders.
[SPEAKER_00]: Laura on tabletop has always been pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they've been some problems sometimes with annoyance with players, but man, like what they do in Laura versus what's in the tabletop has always been pretty close.
[SPEAKER_03]: True.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although, I will say, if we're going to talk about annoyance, next we're going to cover.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can personally attest to irritating the living hell out of people with innate addition, which is what isn't China's righteous.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, love shows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are going to get one unit of elder.
[SPEAKER_00]: just to paint or just to have.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shadowspector's the model.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but hold on that because they could get legend.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's always like, however, they look, they look, they look, I would just ask you, I just worry, but like, they're, they're a forged road model, which always means there's a chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a man's spot of Shadowspector's and just let them be awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I have the team.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, just quick thing on Forge World, Forge World is a thing that used to exist within GW, where you could buy your models from games workshop, or you could buy your models from Forge World.
[SPEAKER_03]: Forge World was, they were both owned by GW as a parent company.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, in Forge World models were four to five times the price, effectively, of GW models.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they were there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And their rules were, is, they only had two options.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: terrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or the most broken thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: The same rate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the thing that you're an idiot to not have in your arm.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're trying to black and pedantly, that's what they were.
[SPEAKER_03]: And shadow spectators hit this to a T. So first off, their armor is white with blue and green trim.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're meant to look almost like ghosts.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of is the best way to explain that look.
[SPEAKER_00]: You mean maybe like a specter?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're a specter.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to dive into what these things are and why they were so broken.
[SPEAKER_03]: First off, they have my favorite Eldar weapon, which is prison.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love prison weapons.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had prison rifles and hollow fields and jet packs.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's still really good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're great now.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm saying, the old weapon that the Flamer Auto hit you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a story for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, yeah, but we get to what I say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you what it is first.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fire up to prison rifles are in the kind of a mini laser, the last cannon, but they've got a focus in crystal that can turn it, that can change it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it either is a focused, direct, powerful beam or a wider rabie.
[SPEAKER_03]: And in prior editions, the worst
[SPEAKER_03]: version of this was they had a direct beam that could wound a tank.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think on fours.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they had a and then they had a like auto hit, or with a flamer laser laser gone that was D six auto hits that would eff up a marine.
[SPEAKER_03]: That got a little bit rough.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're still good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also have hollow fields, which makes obscures them from sight.
[SPEAKER_03]: They seem minus one to hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they can also shoot and skewer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they had jet packs.
[SPEAKER_03]: They could move a twelve or fourteen.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I might've been even been fourteen inches.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the few things in the game and in the lore.
[SPEAKER_00]: This again was one of the things that does set up with the lore and the game because one of the biggest things about Shadow Spectres.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why Elders have been so annoying for people to play against on the tabletop.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because a lot of their units, again, the way that Elder does battle is I'm here.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a shadow specter.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did this all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you the mechanic, even if you don't play Forty K. Shadow Specters would come down from somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shoot you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they get an extra move.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they would move.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what you would do with them all the time is you would bring them onto the board.
[SPEAKER_03]: They would shoot something they could see.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they would disappear behind a wall where you couldn't see them anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: which is a hundred percent lower, but also on the on the board.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hundred percent should.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll think about it for multiple editions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eldar has had the ability to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I shot you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to shoot you back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not there anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can shoot where I was, but I'm not there.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, so, ninety percent of your army shot, and even I don't get to shoot you at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's how it works.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're making a face like you're not enjoying this game.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm having a great time.
[SPEAKER_00]: This seems amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually, oh my god, I just reminded me of a game I played in eighth, where I think I only lost ten percent of my army.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the shadow spectrum.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to tell this because it's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Adaptive God, Mr. Jason Sniigowski, and I are playing in eighth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two men, four man tournament, you play two.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so this is what we're going to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to abandon this.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to hit him up in the Overwatch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Try to do some damage.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, stall them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we're going to move over to the right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go back and snakes is just about to move his models.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, what happened?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I just rolled only five and six is for a number of shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I hit and wounded every time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I killed everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: The member of the flank we were losing, they just all died.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Does everybody died?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, we could probably just go this way now.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what she had.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what she had.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why when you thought, when you said, shit, let's make sure they're broken.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I've got one for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I say, I love show of specters.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love them because the model is cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all hell looking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: The rules are more specific to the best that the highest.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they've always been.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're not as very fun to play with.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're even fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're very nice to play with right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they've torn them down quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so broken.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, there it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had someone get mad at me when I saw I had them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cause four Jordan models also used to be hard to get access to and like I actually, all my stuff's legitimate.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so what I mean, they were wildly smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had, I had quite a few of them and it was, anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm a huge fan of specters, but I'll also be honest, I used to be a very big fan of shining spears.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to ruin my mom.
[SPEAKER_00]: This only applies for people in the game, because they made their basis much, much bigger.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're useless now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they all said, I actually would not play them anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, shiny spheres, they're a jet pack, such a, they're a jet bike.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't thirty of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I counted the other day.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are a white jet bike with blue and silver trim.
[SPEAKER_00]: They look.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The shining spears are the ultimate of the fast attack against the elder.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are a, it's a jet bike with a twin shuriken catapult and what's called a laser lance, which is a lance, but at least, at least unlike the stupid Adalan rough riders.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a jet bike, not a horse, and the lance shoots a high powered laser out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a tiny bright dance, this is what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you think about this, they can put down a huge volume of shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have some heavy weapons because they're grav-mounted platforms.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a jet bike, but it's a weapon platform.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's an elder jet bike, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they have heavy weapons that they have in their squads, and they can also find a close combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is one of the big things we talked about the XRX a little bit before.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of the units where the ex-art is vastly superior to the rest of the unit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And as I mentioned, like people used to modern the new version of the game, but there have been entire additions of this game, where you would, if someone had Chinese peers, your number one purpose was to kill them, because they would wreck you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is a big thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would come in squads of three.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: the two guys were literally there to, I think that's my only of my first one of the things.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were there to cheerleader.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had, this is a real thing, Kramer did this.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had two shining spirit guys that had pompoms.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just to support your accent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's going to start.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the starlands he would.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the shining spears in the lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is again, this is why you're hearing bread and I fanboy so hard on this on this part of this cast in the lore shining spears.
[SPEAKER_03]: come out of absolutely nowhere, fire down, they will blast, they use the catapults and their lands to blast the hole in the enemy line, then shoot themselves into that hole and kill everything in there and disappear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Going hundreds of miles an hour.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they're like, mock three.
[SPEAKER_00]: What actually of that isn't kilometer.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're Americans.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know any.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they hit you like a thousand pound hammer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they just show up going these ridiculous speeds.
[SPEAKER_00]: And show up in a combat in their awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they would in the lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what they they could just devise their enemy and the truth is on the table top.
[SPEAKER_03]: They finally turned them down in tenth, but for ninth and ninth, they were a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: I always had at least two squads for the XR.
[SPEAKER_03]: I ran a full nine pack of the minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: They could do horrible things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, just think about the yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: XR cars you haven't even talked about it, but in the in the game, they got rid of those and I said, but I get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was one of the one of the things that translated we talk about all the time, more versus the tabletop and I love when lower comes close sometimes is broken.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but it's fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know for me, it's a big deal that my tabletop feels like stores.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm going to defend we're pretty far in this castle and defend the elder with this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Eldar get a really bad rap for having incredibly broken codex.
[SPEAKER_03]: The reason it happens is because they write rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shining Spears are one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shadow Spectre is another one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, actually, how we banche these next.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've also had this problem where their tabletop rules match the door.
[SPEAKER_03]: The issue with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: is that other codex is didn't get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not that the elder were broken.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the fact the elder were the only one who were granted the luxury of having rules that matched their law.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is why I'm saying like my I could one three packs of shining spears in eighth and ninth edition and just
[SPEAKER_03]: devastating enemy with them, which is exactly what they would do in the lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the lore, those little three packs would be all over the place, harassing enemy, shooting and striking, killing a key character, debuffing a unit, all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly what they do in the lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did the tabletop.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one else had that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I miss Xbox.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: GW, give me back my XR powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love having... Give me back the ninth edition.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like having customized my special.
[SPEAKER_00]: We could do a whole cast on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Love the ninth edition.
[SPEAKER_00]: Customizability is such a big deal for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want my army to be the same as your army.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like her.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, another one that's actually, so I actually like these.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know I don't like people who don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, howling ban sheets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Part of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the models a lot now.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were trash.
[SPEAKER_03]: God damn it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, let's screw this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hijacking this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me just talk about who they are first and then let you hijack.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_03]: they are, they're an off-white with a red and green trim with these big red hair.
[SPEAKER_03]: And look, they look cool as all hell.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all, those are also awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, posters are awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got, well, their old models did not, but the new model, they got, and like, I think it was, I think that was eighth edition.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was eighth edition.
[SPEAKER_03]: The new model they got.
[SPEAKER_03]: James, yeah, the new models of a James art is not good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So howling banshee's were cool as shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead, Brad.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what she?
[SPEAKER_00]: Banchies were a staple.
[SPEAKER_00]: Better fact, I brought more Banchies in eighth and ninth edition than everybody else did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you were correct.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody said, most people said I was wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, no, overwatch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we've also awesome hex art powers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Benches used to be awesome and lower wise.
[SPEAKER_00]: Benches are super crazy fast and they're acrobatic, they're they're they're they're legitimately doing if you are an anime type person.
[SPEAKER_00]: You, you just need to own some banschies in because they've been good in almost every edition.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, except.
[SPEAKER_00]: And seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you weren't a, now, now they're, they're in sixth.
[SPEAKER_00]: They did what they didn't say.
[SPEAKER_00]: One unit.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's jumped him out.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have a watch.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is is that the ultimate anime because they have rules like acrobatic.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing literal backflips and ninja moves and stabbing people and doing doing all the stuff that you're like, that's not physically possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Banschies are doing all of those things.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Banschies are cool as hell, because the couple of the rules they have is that they are called howling banschies, because they're actually wreaking banschies what they should be called.
[SPEAKER_03]: They let out a whale when they come into combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a mask, a Banschie mask that disorients you by effectively giving you a sonic attack.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so what happens is, in the lore, this is again, lore tabletop, they nailed this.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the lore, this mask releases horrible sound disoriented and allows them to kind of actually come for a pretty far distance till they're on top of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now we're killing you with swords.
[SPEAKER_03]: In a tabletop, it turned off this thing called Overwatch.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for those of you who don't play the game,
[SPEAKER_03]: Overwatch is when an opponent says, hey, I'm going to make my models closer to your models.
[SPEAKER_03]: You could just shoot at me because I'm, you know, like you would do, no, but someone's charging at you and you're holding a gun, you shoot him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Banshee wouldn't let you do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is an insane power because they would, they would just get on you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Laura tabletop, they nailed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then in combat, they'd have a ton of attacks because that's what they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're supposed to be acrobatic warriors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so defensive stats, but only in combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they're supposed to be so fast, so early.
[SPEAKER_03]: They could, I'm making so many very, Brad's moving a lot for a recorded test.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does this on every cast.
[SPEAKER_03]: This one, he's getting more animated than normal.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm watching Brad like shadow box while explaining stuff to you all.
[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, if you've ever seen a howling benchy model and then you saw Brad, they're completely opposite of each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I love the fact that they had an extra save.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've always had that in combat because of the fact they're so fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're again.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just want to hit and combat improved season.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, now everybody has an involved period, but they used to only have an involved in combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was a big deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: In tech edition, they suck so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're getting, they're getting dusty.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're getting very dusty.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's hard to move on.
[SPEAKER_03]: It makes me sad.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just, well, the last aspect we're going to talk about
[SPEAKER_03]: is why I should brand another disagree on this one a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Brad likes them more than I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, striking scorpions.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a huge fan of them, but I don't dislike them.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just not a huge fan of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you do not like them because they change their fighting style from the first Phoenix Lord to the next.
[SPEAKER_03]: I dislike them just because, yeah, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: I actually liked so I like their eighth edition rules more.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so striking scorpions are green for whatever reason with black and gold trim and they they carry a chain sword.
[SPEAKER_03]: in Mandy Blasters, but actually I do think Mandy Blasters are like, those are super cool things in the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's what they're they're super cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the chainsaw I think I've shit on enough and the L.D.R.
[SPEAKER_03]: version is no different than the one I've taken.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a giant double on all are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but Mandy Blasters are really, really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Scorpion's doing a second, but the Mandy Blasters are this like really weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a face gun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they have, well, it's very similar to what the band she's do.
[SPEAKER_00]: The band she's have a, a, a sonic attack.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do instead of the sonic attack.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you look at the home, it's they're almost excited.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's there.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: These are, well, now they're new and all the resin models you can see where the Mandy Blaster was.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was tubes on the side on either side of the face mask.
[SPEAKER_00]: but they shoot a very powerful mono filament attack from their mask, which would they wouldn't fire it until they were.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, point zero.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it allows, this allows them to fight with their chains swords.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also had a pistol too, but they could fight with their chains or in and so if you were to swing a chains sword and they upon them or to parry it, they could fire the Mandy blasters out of their face and kill the opponent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Striking the scorpions were as like the difference between the striking scorpions and the howling banches the howling banches kind of come in fast or acrobatic and they kill you the striking scorpions were meant to be stalking they would hide in the shadow and wait yeah so in like I actually think they're rules in eighth for better for a more standpoint because it was if you were in cover they got plus one to womb because the idea was that you thought you were safe and out of nowhere pop the striking scorpion to you get you
[SPEAKER_03]: from the shadows they were shadow hunter and they weren't trying to hauling banshees will fight front line units straight scorpions weren't trying to do that they literally lay in wait and come out of the shadows and get you that was kind of what they were I just like that more they were much better in that edition but I liked them already if the dish wasn't even close yeah all right so that's that stuff
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's dive into the Phoenix Lords.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is where Brad's gun.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to lose him anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: So mad man, you know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Every aspect of the L.D.R.
[SPEAKER_03]: was at one point founded, which means that one person felt usually
[SPEAKER_03]: Ostrimans are usually unique when we get him to a second, but they've usually been through the path of the warrior and then decide to specialize within the path of the warrior.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the Phoenix lords all founded.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once they founded a new aspect, they then went to all the craft rules and built shrines and each craft will teach their style of combat.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's that piece.
[SPEAKER_03]: The cooler piece of them is they end up with a very special suit of armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the X-Lark armor was a specific, by the way, X-Larks give then become, can become at the ultimate of Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_00]: And effectively, the names of all the Phoenix lords are just, they're almost criminal monitors there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's your dread, dread pirate Roberts.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you don't write that reference, watch the Princess Bride.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you have anything to Princess Bride, turn us off right now and go watch the Princess Bride.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's better than us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bios.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the biggest thing is, this is, there's a couple of things.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you've read the book last to the wrench, I think so then.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happens is this armor houses all of the memories and not the memories, the skills and the spirit, spirit of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So all of this, I mean, it's active and sometimes it's overpowering.
[SPEAKER_00]: The actual minds of all the previous Phoenix lords are in the armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: of the Phoenix lights.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in this way, Phoenix lords become effectively immortal, because what a Phoenix lord does is if a fuselage is killed in combat, an X arc, it actually doesn't necessarily even have to be an X arc.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a rent any.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's supposed to be an X. It's supposed to be an X. It's supposed to be an X. It's supposed to be an X. But if it was also, it's not an X arc, the trying will be
[SPEAKER_03]: The kind of pissy about it's true, but if an elder than puts on the armor of the dead Phoenix Lord, the armor instantly reheals all wounds that had and that person ceases to exist and they become the fees or and when I say that I don't mean that like, oh, I've taken the name over.
[SPEAKER_03]: My mind is wiped and I be calling.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just become.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you effectively get overpower because I just want to make sure it's clear that it's not like I'm taking on the moniker of Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am you my voice changes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am that will every Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is another thing which is broken if they they showed up, but they were.
[SPEAKER_00]: because every Phoenix Lord should be slightly better than the last Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you're taking all of the experiences and the thing is the armor gives you not just your experience, but actually all the skills, everything that you've worked on.
[SPEAKER_00]: For however long you've been alive, you get all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is awesome in a way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's terrifying because you get subsumed by a thousand mines, which sounds insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: But as we know, quick side note warp spiders don't have a Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's some rumors about that, but they currently do not and have not ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's actually it's been called on the lower numerous times that there's because of where they come from.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, but Brad's shaking, let's go.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll start with kind of the lamest of them, but also it's
[SPEAKER_00]: By far, my least favorite.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's the lamest in the lore, but he's actually the most important was awesome because he started everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Ostermon is started the first shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he is that he's the first the Phoenix Lords.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Ostermon, I think, cable top and that's a lot of the much but his stories awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Ostermon was born on Loyeth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Goddamn you, GW.
[SPEAKER_03]: Goddamn you, you're naming your names.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look, I'm from Philadelphia.
[SPEAKER_03]: Please don't play it originally.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't put two else back to back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I don't have to pronounce it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sermon was awesome because he starts off in the, I should train and do things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's not worry about him.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was born on a planet that was within the eye of time at the fall.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was part of the elder empire, the empire, the empire, the empire, the, what they considered the core of the empire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is the idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I figured things about the awesome and the story is, he grew up around these murder cults.
[SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't part of them, but he just was like, yeah, he heard all the prophecies of doom, and he was like, yeah, it's probably not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was already kind of a heart core dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in the middle of all this nonsense pleasure call.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all this stuff and he just went, I'm going to go train kung fu in a mountain basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, the fall happens and surprised up right his entire planet is all demons now.
[SPEAKER_03]: This part was a little bit weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess he went and found shelter in this old temple.
[SPEAKER_00]: He went to a Tibetan monk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that's the story, basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But not like, oh, it's hard to find the demons actually couldn't get.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was just right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he'd look out the window at demons.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he just lived there for a few years.
[SPEAKER_03]: with the demons outside.
[SPEAKER_03]: No further detail given.
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, the story gets more important because it's all, he's all plot armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then one day, really, just because of the star child comes to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because he sits there and says, you know, maybe this isn't for me and decides you must go kill himself and out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's not like he was just like, I'm bored.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to kill myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: His plan is destroyed.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's surrounded by his information of the fact that, oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Eldar Empire, as I know it's gone, is gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm by myself in a temple, and I'm by the glory of nothing, I'm gonna get smoked.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I decided to potentially commit suicide, which I'm then hold not to by this child that named Farahville.
[SPEAKER_03]: Start child.
[SPEAKER_03]: Start child, name Farahville.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is why we're foreshadowing guys, I don't foreshadowing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm foreshadowing three minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me three minutes here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, he wears the biggest hat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, so far, Phil convinces him not to come himself and he agrees not to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then we randomly fast forward a little bit and there's a dark elder attack on the inside of the temple other hiding in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I didn't write this.
[SPEAKER_03]: The demons can't get in, but the dark elder can.
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome and Rex all of all of the dark elder.
[SPEAKER_03]: We also discovered why they were coming for fireethyl.
[SPEAKER_03]: The dark outer work is targeting fireethyl, not usherman.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't even know usherman was the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a reason why we'll get to this in a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: Awesome and just Rex them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now finds this gives him a message.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so, usherman doesn't wreck them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Usherman laughively wrecks an entire raid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was just so he solace.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's so low as Andrew.
[SPEAKER_03]: Carly Raid.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a full raid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was by himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't like, man, I snuck around.
[SPEAKER_00]: I barely won.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he just kind of stood there and murdered every shot each of them in the face more like yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He ruins these.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this wasn't John Wick.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was commando.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're in the middle of the lawn going.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to take cover, but I don't respect you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which you also, if you haven't seen other John Wick or Camando, also watch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Turn this off, go watch that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, awesome and infyrethal and some other survivors who apparently were there randomly, bail.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they started, I apparently he could have left at any time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he wanted to murder.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he went to hang out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so they move around and eventually they settle on this world named Osir.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, Osirman settles on the word of Osir.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, super not worried about the fact that he ran them child appeared to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why this this doesn't occur to him why this would be important anyway shit, but this is a real story please read it by the way the story is actually kind of fun It's just when you look at the facts of the story they sounded saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, that the path hospital is a good book, but it's when you write your cliff notes you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I got damn it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, like that is actually what I was super into this book.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was all excited and that was I'm like
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you're like, oh, he just ignored that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, like, for sure, they're, of course, there's a kid here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't there be?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't I just kill everyone I see this year?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this year's this
[SPEAKER_00]: Pause that, you know, I'm going to throw it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Throw it down on you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because just like if you watch the Kung Fu movies with Brad has over the years, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying I got any Kung Fu movies in the seventies.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just sick because you were born in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, well, yeah, yeah, not, not seventy nine.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the biggest thing is is that Osirman realizes that he's going the only way the owner is going to push forward is with combat, but discipline.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, very, very true.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a huge thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is like he says, I'm his in the dark city.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing combat better than anybody else's.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he said, we need to have discipline, focus.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is when he John Waitin' him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and a focus.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was warriors exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, on Osser, he builds, and this is important, Osser is becoming the planet, the first shrine, the first warrior shrine.
[SPEAKER_03]: He then goes on a little pilgrimage to the, all the craftworlds and telling them about his thoughts, and they'll be candid.
[SPEAKER_03]: The craftworlds are all in on this idea, and they say, hell yeah, and he starts building new shrines.
[SPEAKER_00]: on every.
[SPEAKER_00]: I probably be super into you going.
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad, we need to live a BJJ lifestyle if I just saw.
[SPEAKER_00]: one thousand plus worlds instantly evaporated.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, this will make it so that won't happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be like, you know what, this might not be true, but I'm in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because of this, there are more shrines to awesome than there's more shrines to the dire vendors than any other bio wide margin.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're actually on every school.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are on every craft.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, though, it's the easiest path to make the transition.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, but this awesome and over time, this then becomes
[SPEAKER_03]: As we get to the rest of Phoenix Sports, the rest of things we're going to talk about all started as dire Avengers, and then we became ex-Sarks, and then eventually decided to create a new path within it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Osterman is both the progenerator of all the aspect shrines, but also of all the Phoenix Sports.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, that's Osterman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can I say, biggest hat?
[SPEAKER_03]: He does have the biggest of the hats.
[SPEAKER_00]: His hat is comically light.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a stupid model.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oscarman just from from a modern forty-case standpoint, he's alive, although his miniature is older than probably most of you listening.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's full metal bow.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's full metal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even think they made a resin version of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even know if it's for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually sure if it's still for sale.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm that secret heavy.
[SPEAKER_00]: You could kill somebody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if you've heard it across them, people will be upset.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, fun story in Oscarman, he has returned to the lore very recently under the command of Jean Zarr.
[SPEAKER_03]: which we're gonna get to in a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're about to get there.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has now pledged his allegiance to you need, which is a big thing in these Phoenix orgs as we go through a lot of them have pledged recently their allegiance to you need and the God of death.
[SPEAKER_03]: So speaking of, James Ah, so that little girl that saved Austin from suicide, yeah, that's James Ah, you want more than that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: settle down kung fu pandas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: James are the reason that the jukari were trying to attack and kill is because of who James are is.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was raised at something that was called a haka parry, which are the precursor to the jukari which calls she was a child and not even like Brad scout marine child soldier.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's a child child, but she's also like the chosen one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she was the greatest child pit fighter in the history of camera, effectively.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was what no one could stand with her and she escaped.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is what happened at the birth of Slinash, she used that moment to escape.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she kind of jumped, I think, through a web way and found herself and then Osterman was in front of her.
[SPEAKER_03]: James art to Brad's point is a start job.
[SPEAKER_03]: She is, there's a, basically, she's a future.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's a chosen one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, she is the future of the whole race.
[SPEAKER_03]: James are she.
[SPEAKER_00]: She does show it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, she's a little kid and she's a ninja, basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's deleting in arena combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: train the season warrior.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, don't worry.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's pulling down Talos.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she was rough.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's cool shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, James are then finishes her training under Osterman and then realizes, yeah, I could do this also my way and begins this blanks.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way the way it works is
[SPEAKER_03]: you want to take the path of the warrior, and you would look at these different options.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so James R was just kind of like with a stand outside of like the dire Avengers shrine saying,
[SPEAKER_03]: want to do close combat question mark and he would say I think I do show me more and they'd see what she could do and they say yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't sign me up for this combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sad part in the game is we don't get enough of this but like in the lore there's a lot of warriors that have went down multiple aspects.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't because like I would be T nine was seventy to attack.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've already broken and in for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll have a gun on one side of sword and the other and combat thirty two attacks and shoot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a but there's some bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so about howling ban sheets actually end up with the second most shrines to the dire Avengers.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's a big deal, and this is, I have to give it the fact that Osirman started everything off.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to give, you have to give props.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he set everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: James, our starts starts a shrine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: But she also makes it a point to go craft for the craft form.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, she visits all her shrines.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and update them and say,
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the, we've just fought these war with blah, blah, blah, the humans, the cast, the whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what we learned.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now we're doing this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, the autarx basically said, this helps them when we are at this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they start to hone their what is being a holling banching me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeans are also considered one of the biggest true believers in the Eldar.
[SPEAKER_03]: She really does believe both in the path of the warrior, but also in the reemergence of the Eldar.
[SPEAKER_00]: She wants Eldar to be the dominant for, and not even in a bad way.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not in a shitty way, not in a real tan way, in a normal, like she, she wants to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's the light of the, actually, it is actually one of the cheesy lines in one of the books, is she wants the Eldar to be the light of the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she got a great new model in eighth edition, which is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're going to buy one elder model, yeah, she is awesome as hell or if you're going to buy one model.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can either buy James R, which is awesome as hell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you could buy Magan Ra.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate the Magan Ra.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, his new model is awesome and his old model is terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm the opposite.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like his old.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, his little baby guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was stupid, but the new model just looks weird to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's more of that piece.
[SPEAKER_03]: The new model looks like a shadow specter to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I don't like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's Janet.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, back to James R real quick.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to do a whole cast on Yenari and James R's kind of most of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She has embraced you in the ear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: She had some fights.
[SPEAKER_00]: She won some.
[SPEAKER_00]: She lost watch.
[SPEAKER_03]: She lost one, which we'll cover in the Yenari cast, but it has a pretty big loss.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a big loss.
[SPEAKER_03]: She made a big win.
[SPEAKER_03]: She may have got chopped in half and then more pieces, but she got resurrected.
[SPEAKER_03]: It says important.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Malgan Ra, Malgan Ra is the grumpy, the grumpy Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he was born before the fall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is someone going to say someone's grumpy?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a guy that rode his craft world out of the I have terror all tonight or the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: It still happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Came out like sneak, pluskin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we're going to talk about with that craft world in a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: So his craft world happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Morgan was craft world existed just outside of the eye of terror.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it didn't get eaten by slenash.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll never make it out of the act.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, for some stupid reason, apparently the eye of terror has a gravity well as we talked in the last cast.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it actually got his so everyone on the craft world they weren't able to escape the guess their web ways didn't work and got hold back into the eye of terror.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very slowly over like
[SPEAKER_03]: It's five hundred and three years of descending into a net no point where they were able to figure out how to power out of there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, Morgan Ross somehow escapes this.
[SPEAKER_03]: They never explain how.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just does and is grow old, gets sucked in.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one else leaves with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just Morgan Ross.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, Morgan finds himself not in the eye of terror.
[SPEAKER_03]: joins the path the warrior.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm actually, he, you know, he's directly under awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's directly under awesome and like one day into training goes, this is stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everything you're showing is dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are we using this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically, Margaret and Roz viewpoint was, yeah, you said it's cute and lovely, but your guns are just not cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what happens if I took your gun?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I put like nine of them together, and I welded them together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that becomes one gun.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll just shoot that instead.
[SPEAKER_03]: And to his credit, the response was, well, you couldn't do that accurately.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you just went, hold my beer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like boom, and my gun rod just decides to grab the biggest guns he can find and use them to just wreck shop at distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, he kind of went with the emo vibe, it went
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you guys are wearing all your bright colors and your big hats.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about if I wore all black, all black with a skull on it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and you're like, do I have a misfits tattoo?
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you could do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, yeah, we're doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, I'm sorry, but Dark Creepers think about a hundred times cooler than
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a big fan of miss fits.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like a good crimson ghost.
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys have given me what I'm looking for.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Morgan Rod is by the way, like either our creepers, they wreck shop when they show up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bad, the start teeth black crusade.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just joined Eldred and we'll demolish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan, Rob and
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm very bigger since the Harley Quinn's.
[SPEAKER_00]: When Morgan Rao and a group of his Dark Creepers show up at your craft world, you're just like, oh, cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got Morgan Rao here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, we're about to get inflated.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's totally shows up when shit goes out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to get bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the good news is when you get invaded if Morgan and Russ there, you're going to repel the invasion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He always wins.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he is, but
[SPEAKER_03]: Where this gets interesting with the story of Magaral, that's actually kind of the bring us into the modern version is that during a battle's thirteenth crusade, while fighting,
[SPEAKER_03]: He somehow was able to see into the, it's actually right after a bad and breaks the sky.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's able to look in and he sees that his craft world is still there and his people are still there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he and his buddies jump into the, the material, the material, the material.
[SPEAKER_00]: Totally Lehman rushes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Goes into the material, jumps to his craft world.
[SPEAKER_03]: high fives as many as he can and then just steers the craft just drives it right out right out which they should have done ten thousand years ago exactly but they come out of this where this is interesting and this is one of those fun things where GW kind of gives you some question marks is the rest of the elder are not thrilled to see them because it's the so you've been in the warp for ten thousand years actually
[SPEAKER_03]: more potentially more and depending on what you feel about the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and you're telling us you're not corrupted, which is not helped by the fact that no member of his craft road will take their helmet off under any circumstance or speak above a whisper.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like any, by the way, which doesn't even sound like a voice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like basically the sound coming from everywhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: The L-D-R are quite concerned about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's questions about autism.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of the stars, it got a lot of questions.
[SPEAKER_03]: But as we discussed earlier, also, Margaret did get a new model.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't personally like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, it looks, I don't, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a fan, but that's a personal link.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's have one do a weird combo one.
[SPEAKER_02]: The heart will be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_03]: The heart is actually, they think may be the first X arc.
[SPEAKER_03]: The rumors at the heart is the first dire Avenger X arc ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that references to this and I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just in the code X. That's all.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, they made a reference to the fact that whether he calls him as brother is in his brother in arms or if it's
[SPEAKER_03]: It's brother-in-arms.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, the other thing to is he's revered to is the brother of Mark on rock.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not Morgan Ross actual brother.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just what they realize was in combat.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the best combo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm saying that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we're being talked.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did make it clear though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like in the beginning, you're just like,
[SPEAKER_03]: It was actually a strip.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had to read it four times.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the fourth edition code X to be like, oh, I see what they're saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were brothers the way the sun in the moon.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's how they just used to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is how they wrote it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the idea is that they don't really work without each other, but they're not actually related.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and it's a cool thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea was from a combat standpoint, it's Bihara and his swooping Hawks would just lightning striking and jack up an enemy and mess up their position.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Morgon and his buddies would just destroy them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that they couldn't move.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the thing is, is that in the original lore and rules, Baroth used to be way more of a close combat throughout than he was any else.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's changed because James are.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that was a bit because Baroth is written in the codex as the fastest and most agile of the Phoenix lords.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that your notes are a second chainsaw.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because that's why it's like just wait man.
[SPEAKER_03]: James are supposed to be that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, Baroth is faster.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so he can use close combat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, technically, he just chooses not to.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's actually not a lot of lore and behind it, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I could cover more about it, but there's not that much.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just kind of this is who he is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a lot of key stories that involve him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He shows up a little bit in the January storyline.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the more models it moderately, he's been added to he's part of the team under James R. Fighting for you, Nade.
[SPEAKER_03]: He also has one of the oldest models in the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: Him and awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have to get the ultimate.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, again, our tell W you're going to like, so I'll just call it our tell W is a company out of I don't know if it's Russia or where I'm ever going to get sponsored by GW is fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, our tell has a great ork and elder line, which is why I like them so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're really going to both of those.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also really going to our bites too.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're looking down that path, but although GWR bites are still good, so it's not as big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just my viewpoints all by GW unless it's resin or pewter in which case I'm looking around for other options.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's dive into Brad's buddy, Fwagan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also can come back to life.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's feeling slurred to their fire dragons is a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fwagon is he.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fwagon's viewpoint is we're mongon rods thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to shoot from really far away and blow stuff up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fwagans viewpoint is I'm gonna make something not exist anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is weird for me because his teachings and how he fights are two different things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he teaches you, he wants to come up personal, destroy what it is, kind of make sure it's destroyed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he doesn't, yeah, he destroys absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted one of the reasons and a couple of the snippets that you get from him is that he wants to make sure something is
[SPEAKER_00]: Don, come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's too many stories of random, big, baddie being heard and crawling off later.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I don't want any of that to happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, all of them are dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: But one of the biggest things about him is, even though he doesn't teach it in his shrine, he
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll mainly the shit out of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, it's funny because I do laugh a fragrant fragrant is the head of the fire dragons who are a like Melta powered unit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wagon and close combat is a powerhouse.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in stories and multiple rules, he used to get better when he was hurt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, finance cool is as hell.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, there's actually not a lot of law on Wagon because he actually was lost to the elder for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the fake Phoenix lords turns to chaos.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're getting there, obviously.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this actually, phoenix consumed by it and ends up just jumping into the web way to travel the web way, looking for kind of access to kick for lack of a better phrase.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, and that's the thing is he may release the shit out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he will randomly, it's in the lower, all phoenix does in the lower for a long time is he just appears randomly out of battle and just cuts, it plot armors, the situation saves the elder beats the crap out of it on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's his thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, the other key thing about Fwagon is, I know you don't like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love how they're so much, but so there is a thing in Elder, called Rana Dandara.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rana Dandara?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Rana Dandara is Rana Dandara.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're even trying here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rana Dondra is supposed to be the final battle between the forces of evil and the forces of good.
[SPEAKER_03]: At the end of it, the immaterial and the material will both be destroyed.
[SPEAKER_03]: For those people who've been playing GW games for a while, this is actually what GW did to Warhammer Fantasy.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we have AWS.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so they actually did.
[SPEAKER_01]: GW did kill the only evil guy to win in a GW game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Arcade.
[SPEAKER_03]: And actually, they GW blew up the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, GW sent out effectively a press release to all of their players saying, hey, the game does exist anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, Fwagans critical in runodondra because apparently it the battle commences when he brings together all the Phoenix warrior lords and their warriors to a final battle with chaos and it's actually as Fwagans dies in the final battle that the universe will come to an end.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good news is now he's fighting under your need.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to fight the mid-guards serpent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's I love everything about flagging until.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right under.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's I'm lame.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's jump to one of my favorite.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the one who's also like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I do this because this is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't pronounce it earlier.
[SPEAKER_03]: Relief.
[SPEAKER_00]: Relief.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't expect there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I can't do two else guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't do two else back to back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, and the game has varied wildly in power.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it really is the shadow-spector Phoenix Lord who rose again under awesomen and then decided that, well, what if I could be fast and stealthy with incredible firepower?
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone went like, yeah, that's kind of all the things you'd want to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: He went, cool, got it, and doesn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's kind of where
[SPEAKER_03]: Broken-ass forage roll.
[SPEAKER_03]: But!
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, and for you, what does a weird thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a death corpse of Creeg.
[SPEAKER_03]: They write really good lore, really, really good lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Elrith, since kind of birth, had his vision of his home of his home planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, his home craft were being destroyed at the hands of this like reptilian race.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, from an unknown planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's just upstances over this for years.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he's from the path of the warrior.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's got a fight fight fight fight fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: One point, Elrith,
[SPEAKER_03]: kills a greater demon of slonash.
[SPEAKER_03]: Single handed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but this is the lamest shit on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, killing a greater demon, killing keeper secrets is amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he was like, hey, and the keeper seekers went, check this out.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what's going to happen to your home world.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, there's no way a demon would lie to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go take care of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it might have been true, but his demons are totally known to be super truthful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fair enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he kills a greater demon and discovers the planet that this reptilian race that's going to kill his kids craft world comes from.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember, this is Eldar.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Eldar love killing something ten thousand years before it's a problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Elrith goes the series of his craft world and says, hey, I found it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get to kill them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they all went, yeah, okay, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they said, Elrith, they all went, hey, again, looking to the future when we say sometimes it's questionable what they choose.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I learned this knowledge from a demon that I killed that said that this was for sure the truth, because I would never lie to you, bud, those are pals.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is so stupid.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this story gets dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just why I have to tell it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Elrith and his, and a bunch of the other aspect worries, go to this planet and they engage in a battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the only thing I can think of is if you've seen Monty Python, the life of Brian, when the people's front of Judea, the Judea people's front meet under the tunnels and then actually just kill each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the last guy's die is a stab each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: That apparently is what happens because ill-rath and every single one of his brethren end up dead, but so does everything on the planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, you're thinking, why the story is interesting, because it gets funnier.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fast forward thousands of years, there's over its bodies just in some cave on some planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Somehow, somehow, the elder discover that he's in a cave on this planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also discovered that he meant the Imperium has built a colony on the planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they decide to do the only thing that you should do.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is your top notch.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eldar doing Eldar.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, saying the notes on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are exactly what happens, but it's also amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: In classic Eldar fashion, they sent an emissary to go negotiate the return of the armor.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they just attacked out of nowhere with no warning.
[SPEAKER_00]: No warning.
[SPEAKER_00]: No idea why you're attacking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just killed everyone on the planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: through an X arc in the armor, brought the Elrath back, and then left.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do so.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, I don't understand when the Imperium's always dick stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, you could have just called.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were just, we would have literally handed you the armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, it was a totally unprepared for combat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a mining world that was just like that got a full blown assault for your class world.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're just sitting in a lawn chair and you're like, you know what that's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, as I firmly believe in these kind of things happen, the impairing, because what you would do is like, if they held our smoke a world, they're like, well, what was the reason to try to look at all these reasons for it?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, there was just something there that could have asked us for and they'd show.
[SPEAKER_00]: We would have just been like, it's right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's of no value to us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead and grab it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We also didn't even know it was there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now we do a super quick hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm on Harcut.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the Phoenix order.
[SPEAKER_03]: The airplanes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you should probably.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all there is written on him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: No story.
[SPEAKER_03]: No nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just they they gave them with Phoenix.
[SPEAKER_00]: literally a blurb in a codex next to the plane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Second of the last one we're going to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're third to last one.
[SPEAKER_03]: How we want to look at it is Drustanta.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Drustanta is the shining spear Phoenix Lord or was.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the few ones who is still currently dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, Drestanta is a little bit of a jackass and by a little bit, I mean, a pretty serious jackass.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he was the same hangass.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Drestanta was, he was raised under Osterman, but he just got obsessed with battlefield honor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't even battlefield honor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was battlefield glory.
[SPEAKER_03]: better one.
[SPEAKER_03]: That way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Honor is something different.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to show how awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am the greatest there ever was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he, he loved, like, getting finishing blow enemies.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was just that's whole thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was in a couple of the short stories.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets people killed because he let people hang out too long.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't get killed several times, but like other people did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even members of his members of his own aspect got killed a lot, because instead of just finishing the battle, he tried to extend it a little bit longer for some more glory.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he sucked, luckily he's dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what anyway, he dies because it would get in there in like one minute, guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: The demons invaded Osir, so that planet with Osirman founded the very first shrine on,
[SPEAKER_03]: and Drustanta found himself like he was one of the ones fighting there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ostroman dies in this battle, we're getting there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Drustanta just freaks out and attacks a keeper of secrets.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Kari?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Kari.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does kill and Kari, single handedly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, whoa, whoa, he kind of has bike.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really he got all his sightload.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he keeps walking over with keeper of secrets, which he's moderately looking up at holding his lands and jacks up in carry, but at the end of the a jack of in carry, he's just disappeared.
[SPEAKER_03]: His land, his celestial lands is just lying there and just on to his
[SPEAKER_03]: going.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one knows where he is, but the Celestial Lance is now utilized by XRX, but he's the only, but we don't know where he is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we haven't had a Phoenix Lord for the, the Shining Spears since then.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so we'll come back, likely.
[SPEAKER_03]: So anyway, we've teased this that this enough are, uh, uh, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, ARHA, AR
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so our hara was disciplined of awesome and boys a little bit weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, you know what, it's a good comparison to Conrad Cruz.
[SPEAKER_03]: Our hara was the head of the striking scorpions.
[SPEAKER_03]: The striking scorpions are, as we said before, they strike from the shadows.
[SPEAKER_03]: They stalk their play, their prey.
[SPEAKER_03]: They come out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not, they change this or sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's where they were.
[SPEAKER_00]: When they were saying, this is from the beginning of the original.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, K-RON is now a patient wait for everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: They originally, they were
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, sneak up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're forward deploy sneak in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come out of shadows and kill.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Morgan, he really wasn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not a fair fight guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, where we just talked about Justin to who love the honor of combat, are hot like killing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and probably a little bit beyond and by probably being definitely
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, ended up, I'm gonna keep probably pronouncing this different every time I say it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, I can't pronounce some of the letter combos that GW chose.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just me.
[SPEAKER_03]: But our hurrah began to kind of thirst for more and more murder and telling.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, he kind of was a Drucari as an elder, but also a key part of the fall.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, this begins to kind of pull at his soul a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I actually couldn't find it anywhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: So people are welcoming to tell me discord how it happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: But effectively at some point, Ara allows the demons access to Asuria.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the very first shrine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what it said, because he never gives the soul the chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody, he says he's corrupted, but I think that he also wants just wants to battle them because he gets so crazy about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would, I could not remember how this happened and I couldn't find it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't feel like reading it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a big thing on this because it was, it felt like no one was testing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, I can't be stopped kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't do enough murder battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he was upset.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like he was upset about the fact that when they would do all it was, you know, to win.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't the death.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he wanted to go to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was psychotic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Always wanted to kill everyone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also just wanted to murder talk about people that didn't like anybody that was an elder.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't even like elder.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also he wanted to just go, one who just slaughter everyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: and kill everything at all times.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he took massive joy in the murder and this slaughter.
[SPEAKER_03]: So again, at some point, he decides through corruption or whatever it is to open the immatirium on Assoya, which
[SPEAKER_03]: Demons pour out, and this becomes one of the greatest battles the Phoenix Wars have to have to wage, because it's Osterman.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Druston Diably.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jane was there.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're all there fighting, and Osterman gets killed by a Phoenix Lord, and then she, and Ostria's lost at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then having to retreat from Ostria, Aura offer a cannot do that damn name, jumps into the web way, and goes to Comer.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he comes, Dresar, although technically from a writing standpoint, we're not a hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a hundred percent Dresar.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is that he's now, Dresar is effectively
[SPEAKER_00]: hatred in armor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no more aura.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is just days are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he founds an ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: He founds an ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: He founds an ass.
[SPEAKER_03]: He founds an ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: He founds an ass.
[SPEAKER_00]: He founds an ass
[SPEAKER_00]: becomes basically an evil version of all the phoenix lords.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he found and he found an aspect in comma to create and they become incorrect.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they are the evil version.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's funny because we talk about juke horrid.
[SPEAKER_03]: You car your madness.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're evil, elder.
[SPEAKER_03]: But these ones are the evil elder like the, you know, bread and our old enough to where you'd have the, like the evil clone would come out and they would have a mustache.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is what drays are and the ink you buy are, you know, to, to the fake words.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the aspect worries.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are an evil version of an aspect warrior.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is is that he walked in to this and just they made it.
[SPEAKER_00]: and came up and just, you know, they do this up a different because like originally, I just came in and made this shrine and the drows are came later.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at some point in time, are you a dies?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's, it's gets a really, the GW to actually, it's kind of cool here.
[SPEAKER_03]: They made it so that you're a hundred percent certain that
[SPEAKER_03]: Arya is Dresar except he might not be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you also know that you could be told wrong that he's not because of original at some point in time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dresar shows up at the incubate temple and murder faces everyone has never taken off his armor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hasn't spoken to anybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: And just shows up when it's time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dresar also really doesn't like Phoenix Lords.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the I will say when we'll cover this more than you carry cast, but the jukari have an alternative history here about how drays are actually or Arya was actually the only Phoenix Lord to really understand the true needs of the Eldar.
[SPEAKER_03]: And felt that combat was the thing that mattered more than anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the demon thing wasn't even his fault.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was fighting the demons the whole time and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get there later.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's kind of, I do like that that that that you carry have an alternative history here.
[SPEAKER_03]: But when
[SPEAKER_03]: Ariel moves the chaos, the striking scorpions aren't don't stop existing existing.
[SPEAKER_03]: They promote their greatest X arc, who is Carandras to be the X arc out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why I'm a big key round fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Carandras doesn't get all the knowledge of
[SPEAKER_00]: thousands of years.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's because of himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: That Karajra's just goes, I guess we're going to do what I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he was also Arya's number one student.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he wasn't just a random person.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's Xheart up.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he has Xheart knowledge of previous Xheart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't have Phoenix learned.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I like, as you pointed out earlier, is that he also decides that the way the stricken scorpions are waging combat wasn't beneficial.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because of the law.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, being a forward deploying slaughterer actually carries with it a lot of casualties.
[SPEAKER_03]: What will be is the patient.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the patient hunter.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will stalk the shadows of our opponents and we'll wait until they're exposed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kill them and jump back into the shadows.
[SPEAKER_03]: You'll never.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they end up, they go from this kind of like,
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Night Lord asked Ford deploys slaughter thing that just kind of, I guess it works to this incredible person's vision battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: People should made it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll make it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it became a battlefield scalpel that would just be the idea of a striking escorp in the way they should play is if you've got a rear deployed unit.
[SPEAKER_03]: The striking scorpions would just appear and kill that rear deployed unit.
[SPEAKER_01]: They just take off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and disappear again.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where they're amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so, Carandras in
[SPEAKER_03]: The Lord is written to be he's not the warrior that drains artists.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no question there, but he's more intelligent and we saw it because they actually they do meet and fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: Carandras and Ara who is now drains are get into a battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: Carandras knows he's never going to win this in the best years.
[SPEAKER_00]: It lose him in get some going in a murderous rampage.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then him and the surviving, striking scorpions smoke bomb out and leave.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Drazer just kills all the incubates.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Drazer loses his mind over the battle and the killing all the soldiers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Drazer's his mind over the battle and the killing all the soldiers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, somebody's getting killed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so that was that's where they've kind of put Carandres.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think from a lower standpoint, they did a good job with that because you couldn't say that Ocarandres took over from the prior Phoenix Lord and was just as powerful.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not as powerful as a as a prior Phoenix Lord, but he knows how to exploit the prior Phoenix Lord.
[SPEAKER_03]: The last little bit we'll talk about Carandres is Carandres has also joined chains are in the innate.
[SPEAKER_03]: So then I think it's everyone, but Morgan Raw is under your need right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan, I was just doing
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is ironic because if you played Yenar, you actually use Mugger.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's talking for some more than anything that they're watching.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this makes a way us to wait to talk about why it's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I will say the some people fought some people died and some other people fought and some people died.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will also say on the courageous note, the model sucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's might, it's actually worse than the Osterman model, the GW version is less than an inch tall.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is, and we'll know the body is, let's finish call.
[SPEAKER_03]: Isn't it, but the helmet, the helmet adds there's a three inches to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a horrible model, our tell W, the one I have looks like the predator.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's way cooler.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, just a giant
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm trying to have with Danny that he likes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I with that we're going to conclude this one next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do our fourth cast on Eldar where this one we're going to dive in just kind of the web we we had to cover the Eldar weaponry.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's going to do stuff like what is sure it can what are what is present what are decadents rates, falcons, all these type of jet bikes, those types of things for the Eldar and some of the key elements of Eldar lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of just to kind of catch everyone up.
[SPEAKER_03]: So with that, this is John Barsodian, Brad Jester.
[SPEAKER_03]: See you next week.