[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the Forty K-Lorecast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Forty Kaylorcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me, John Barsodium, Brad Chester.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today we're going to conclude our coverage of the tiernids with a deep dive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Deep-ish dive, mediocre dive.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll start really with kind of like worried officially began the tiernid invasion and where it's progressed up to actually all the way up to, you know, Leviathan.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like this to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did a pretty good job because I like the fact and we're going to we've talked about a little bit before, but I really enjoy the fact that tenants are written from the point of view of the imperium.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's always the mystery and also
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even with their name from, we're going to talk about that in a minute, is again, not even the first time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even the tent time.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what every tyranny, every tyranny, the tyranny's haven't introduced themselves with high, I'm so enthroned.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just, here's also the, the, the, the, the latter of what we have.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hierarchy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm called Zoantup, because my father was with Malan throat, but I'm a smaller version.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, it's, he was the Duke of Zoantru.
[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We do have a perennial Forty K coach with us who actually knows the rules really well.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's well, and I end up in the community who do play.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for those of you who are maybe just discovering the a Forty K lore for the first time and are saying, hey, kind of want to play this game.
[SPEAKER_01]: How's it played?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Weirdly enough, that's what I do for a living because it is wildly complicated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: going to go right into that stuff because that's where it goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's this is the labor of love for Brad and I anyway back to the tier in it's at the top of the hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as we said before, the turns have been in the galaxy for a long time, just not really in force.
[SPEAKER_01]: Space Hulk's coming in.
[SPEAKER_01]: the bioship here or there that probably just landed on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Infiltration units basically have been here for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but both intentional and accidental.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there was a key moment where the tiered fleet seems to have actually made an effort into the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk more about what this effort was shortly, but we want to kind of jump right into that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard there's a planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, had something to do with the naming.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's the funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually might have pronounced it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it, is it T-Rain or Tyran?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good question.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: T-Y-R-A-N.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I'm saying that as I see the, as I put the note up on the screen at front of us, I'm like, shit, I don't wanna pronounce that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say it's Tyran.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So can you say, Tyran is?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll see the other could be Tyran's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, that's pretty bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not British.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: I live there's a kid, but there's an account.
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch Postman Pat that's about where this ends.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Postman Pat was good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like honestly, been paying to bear.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I live there in the early eighties.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the first pull evidence we get of a Tierney invasion actually comes in a plant tyrant.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is an amazing story.
[SPEAKER_01]: They, uh, this is, you know, GW has some, you know, they died on occasion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when they hit, they hit hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: think it out of the park.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's always swinging for the fences because they either strike out or they hit home runs a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, uh, uh, that's, he's a percent of our audience is not American.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's use sports.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we just cricket, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: We should hold back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like looking at our metrics and I'm like we probably should make less American sports references because it's just lost on me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Also the fact is, I still think the cricket is a plot to make me feel dumb about sports even though I know everything about every American sport.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it predates all those sports.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's actually pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a it's only a light by cricket is because it's so long.
[SPEAKER_01]: The games last a week everyone just drinks this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the ultimate game of.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cricket's kind of an if you're boring as all fucking.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys like it, I know we have Australian listeners.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys also have rugby and footy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're winning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Footy's the greatest game ever made.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're just saying all the tyrannid naming mechanics come from the Imperium, which also means that the Orcs true carry, Eldar, Votan, and Tao probably have different roles.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're own names.
[SPEAKER_01]: Four tyrannid units, but we don't have to care.
[SPEAKER_03]: We need to make a podcast specifically on what Orcs have named everyone else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is all pointy or round or boom?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just level of very pointy kind of pointy, you know, squishy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would actually get more I could get up with a towel would name them, but I've shit on them enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry, there's never enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, as we said in the last cast, when the tyrannids appear somewhere, there are precursors.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got the earthquakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You also have the biggest reason you have is it just goes dark.
[SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden things cease to exist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shadows will work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, no one really knew is the eastern fringe of the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were seeing just multiple worlds just go dark for no reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: And
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is happening around M. thirty.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the M. forty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're at the point now where a bad news.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is thirteen.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the big thing is that while tenons have been around for forever in the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are supposedly new to the galaxy in the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's because, yeah, that's a good point.
[SPEAKER_01]: We should point out, is that in nineteen, like eighty nine or so when the game began, the game began in M-forty.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can talk about all the, all the, the happenings of Horace Heresy have never occurred in what we would, I would call the Codex era of the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all pre-reference.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ancient history actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: So interestingly enough, like the tyrannids actually are newer to the galaxy than the tower, but the tyrannids are one of the first races in the game because the game starts at M-Forty.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's an important thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: go to that point that the galaxy's already on fire when the eastern front and this is we think is perfect we meet the very edge of the galaxy on the right side.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying it, you know, I was I wasn't even going to mention it because I'm doing it the lack of range out in north in a galaxy could job guys anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're coming in over there, and it's just kind of this, well, that's really far away and kind of who gives a crap is a viewpoint.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the Adeptis Administration, I'm saying, all right, let's just send some people out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's buy a track for just a second on this, because I do, I know we're doing tournaments, but we have to, a lot of these things don't make sense unless you again look at it from how inefficient the bureaucracy of the Imperium is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because when we say fleet, it's not like,
[SPEAKER_03]: the little strike fleet of ships.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's a living planet, basically moving through space.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't even recognize this as a thing until much later, because a forty seven million guys have to stamp something before this happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of these don't make sense unless you realize that because otherwise you're like, what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_03]: They're killing world after world after world.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why did no one do anything?
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like,
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't even know it was a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how inefficient the beer is.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about you.
[SPEAKER_01]: The odd, sorry, the debt to that's I've been a strong didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: The debt doesn't necessarily necessarily call this out in the in the code axis, but it most likely only took interest in Eastern French when we reached like the hundredth world that had randomly gone dark and I was like, oh, we should probably do something now.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the first twenty was a, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_03]: As soon as they started breaking some supply chains and they went, well,
[SPEAKER_03]: This is going to mess.
[SPEAKER_03]: This will make me do even more people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should process it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they send some survey ships out there with the surface ships find is really strange.
[SPEAKER_01]: They find planets that were marked as like agri-worlds or lush.
[SPEAKER_01]: The lush roads are there's nothing there like a moon.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have an atmosphere and if you know it's
[SPEAKER_01]: Mercury?
[SPEAKER_01]: Venus.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they both are that, Mr. actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's Mercury.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's no life.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are actually Mars actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I know I'm right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I say Mars.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll go with Mars.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's that thing of like, there's nothing here.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no life.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then it's like, well, I guess some of them must have labeled it wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then this happens over and over and over again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like oceans are missing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're talking about war worlds that you get to and are just giant craters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is real.
[SPEAKER_01]: What ends up happening is a service ship is coming back and all of a sudden encounters a just swarm of life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's be fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: They bring it on like, hey, the service ship spotted some stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a small ship that wasn't expecting any of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have to do it justice.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no way that these guys weren't holy shit holy shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go anywhere but there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You basically most likely jumped out of warp, come in and you land kind of like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually that scene in Star Wars after all that I was blown up.
[SPEAKER_01]: like, why are we in an asteroid belt?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's supposed to have asteroids.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's spores.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've never seen this species before.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this planet right back to is the planet tyrant, Tieren, whatever it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they tell, they report back because this is this is not in the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're coming back into the system.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they kind of hit this.
[SPEAKER_01]: they fly through it and begin radioing down to the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Shadow in the Warp exists, they don't have to use Astropas at this distance.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can actually use radio.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're now radioing to a planet saying, hey, we have an invasion in orbit.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the planet of course turns on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyran, you know, this planet did have, it was actually was a military.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I was just saying, it's listed, but let's talk about things that weren't what they were.
[SPEAKER_01]: there.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is listed as a research facility and it is not unless they were researching guns.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they were researching what happens when you shoot things with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's important research was a lot of guns this planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a research facility.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is why we end up, this becomes the first recorded battle with the tyrannids.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because it's the first plan of the tyrannids invaded that could fight back.
[SPEAKER_03]: The rest of them were just, well, it's the first battle and not slaughtered.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the planet, of course, knows what's happening and they begin just opening up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they, the good thing is nice thing about that, that I think the one piece of Imperial bureaucracy that does functions when you go to small scale, it's very functional.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're able to, this planet, let's play it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they have a, they were rigid hierarchy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll do that when in the upcoming poll, shameless self-promotion,
[SPEAKER_03]: in our next episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about cars and they had some fun with cars.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they have a rigid hierarchy which allows shit to be done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, screw you.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, oh, that's why.
[SPEAKER_03]: The next note, I'm just reading it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, though it lacked a space frame presence, good thing with all the poison in the air, it was heavily formed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was heavily fortified.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, luckily, there was a lot of poison coming down.
[SPEAKER_01]: So those space frames have been there.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've always been wiped out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a hiring as a serious military operation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only is the planet fortified.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Asian had also had a
[SPEAKER_01]: a space.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been orbital defenses.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they also, they were, they were planets.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had, uh, well, it's got cannons.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got, it's got, orbital, it's basically got giant.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fleet in space.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they had the, they had the fleet of space.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also have, uh, look at half.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had the big cannons that are shooting in two space.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is, uh, again, a research.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so wildly many air quotes for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they were, again, they were researching what happens when I shoot this kind of next side thing over there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they were really ready for this, but they also were not really.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the way the battle, I love the way this battle progresses, because of course imperial forces just go, go ham on on the territory.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's they fire everything into them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the theory is it is part of blowing a part in our business.
[SPEAKER_01]: And remember,
[SPEAKER_03]: The tier, and we talked about this a little bit at the annotation, tierants have not encountered any real resistance up until this point, so they have no reason to have adapted to deal with more of a little defenses.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's a rip in these ships out of orbit, and you get close to the planet it's coming in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going well for the Imperium.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're blasting the ships in better and orbit, and the tries to make planet fall, they're destroying, they're really moving and they're setting themselves up to attack.
[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, what the Imperium doesn't realize is the shadow of the warp has shut off any in all communication.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are sending.
[SPEAKER_01]: They start to realize it a little bit, but initially, they just think, okay, we're going to engage this force.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've called for help.
[SPEAKER_01]: Help is on its way.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to just have to hold out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to hold out.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to hold out.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then they see that they're having just so much almost ease of killing the tyrannies that they decide to commit the Navy that's in the or in space.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, what we're going to do is we're going to split them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to blow up the main ships and then we'll just mop up the rest.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they don't realize that they're fighting the JV of the chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it turns out the high fleet was adapting and the high fleet adapts quickly to this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a ruse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they go in and they they.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the center discovered.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a high line is the old ones probably, but also effectively working as a supercomputer.
[SPEAKER_03]: It learns and adapts instantly in real time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as, as this empiricist, most of this imperial navy comes into the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a fast, fast moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a lie on our couple of hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're not talking, this wasn't, this wasn't, this isn't an epic period.
[SPEAKER_03]: No fight to the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just got wrecked.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a first round knockout.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now the tiered, it's own the skies and begin the true invasion, which is filling the sky with sworn sports.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to the point where the sky is now obscured.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't see, and there's nothing left and they're coming down.
[SPEAKER_01]: At this stage though, one of the cool thing is the invasion then begins is this is before we've seen any adherent adaptations.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we said before, Zohanthropes came from eating elder.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they haven't fought elder yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, biophores are from orcs.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the early stages of tyranny.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's effectively gons.
[SPEAKER_01]: So harmigons, termigons, gargoyles.
[SPEAKER_03]: The additional adherent additional release of gene.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, leaders, carnifixes and some high tyrants.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very, not the tenth edition version that we're all used
[SPEAKER_01]: blood was used to or eighth edition or seven edition, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: The battles really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: You actually did have Katta Chan jungle fighters there who were like, you know, you're fighting off the tear and it's you've got like ramparts, just blasting stuff apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: But effectively, what ends up happening is
[SPEAKER_01]: the tiered horde is the tiered horde.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a reason that it's called the endless war.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there are mountains of dead termigons and harmigons that thousands to millions more run over the mountain down the mountain.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a big thing too, because they're also not, they're not taking, we're attacking it done.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have we're attacking twenty four seven.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: All day everywhere and one of the parts of stories I really like about this is at a certain point the peer force knew this is over.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no scenario that we're going to survive this and one of the admex because
[SPEAKER_01]: We actually have a thing on AdMec, and so far, AdMec are really smart, like yet to get the AdMec right at AdMec, especially AdMec like the characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're really an extremely intelligent and extremely practical.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he realizes that if the tears are going to consume everything on the planet, there will be no record of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what he does is he loads a data slate with
[SPEAKER_01]: videos of the recording all the data they have of the battle and then fires it into the base of the core of the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: So far down that the tier and the swarms consumption of the planet won't get to it and that's that they're all dead with a yeah we're beacon of course and now they're all dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So fast forward about a year
[SPEAKER_01]: And inquisitor, why can't I think of his name off top my head.
[SPEAKER_01]: Billy.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, equipment inquisitor, equipment arrives in the plant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Criptman's, we have to give him a name, was Criptman's one of the more important parts of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually made sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I do like saying inquisitor, Billy, they could easily have just done inquisitor, Eric, just saying, they're British.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, go with it, you know, but
[SPEAKER_01]: This data slate, Crippman finds this data slate.
[SPEAKER_01]: It did freaks out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It did to his credit.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has the proper reaction, which is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's remember, Crippman now arrives this planet, which was a research, air quotes, military base that's gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing left.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a soul, no skeletons, nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: everything has been consumed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although it's not really clear if the military, like I don't know how the territory would eat like a giant steel straw.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they never talk about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not important.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, yeah, I decide on my organic gas harvest.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's all gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cretman finds this data slate and is just horrified and freaks, you know, by the freaks that about and runs back to the imperium, screaming all the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is the proper
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And luckily, he is a high-level inquisitor.
[SPEAKER_01]: So all the bureaucracy doesn't, doesn't exist.
[SPEAKER_03]: He cuts through all the bullshit because again, the tiradids have been just cakewalking through this part of the galaxy for more or not, a hundred percent sure of the timeline on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they've recorded until now, and they still erected.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and when they went there, the battle of time, like the last lesson for you to ask.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the thing is, they didn't even have any of that before.
[SPEAKER_03]: because no one knew anything they were cut off.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just smoking aggro worlds.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're showing up at high worlds that didn't have, they had the garrison.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they had them r-bites and some guards, but it was like, well, we're all of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we're like, weird man, the giant Godzilla monsters killed Judge Dred.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I was like, oh, yeah, he had Judge Dred versus a Carnivex.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that didn't work out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It worked out so badly.
[SPEAKER_03]: They didn't bother writing a story about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, at this stage, Crippman is running back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the good news is that because he, because of his rank and everything else, the Imperium is now aware of the threat and begins preparing for it, which leads us up to the first tyrannic war, which is a big deal on this because the Tyrannas had no way to know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they chose the wrong path to overthrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we kind of lucky unlucky.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was really lucky for the rest of the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Crippman is now aware of what it's here in the invasion looks like.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it's mostly shadow of the work.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't figured out the whole earthquake thing that we talked about last cast, but he now knows shadow of some Crippman begins searching
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just looking for any imperial world that has gone dark and looking for like a pattern where there's multiple and he sees it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a bunch of these worlds.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, you can, we'd refer to the tiered invasionist tendrils because it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the, it's like the, the tentacle of an octopus reaching in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's very linear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: If the thing is is that they also, they don't move the
[SPEAKER_03]: but they do at the same time because the fleet never splinters off.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it just extends.
[SPEAKER_01]: It extends out and it's like, I like to use the term tentacle because what is like the tip that tentacle is narrow, but as that tentacle moves, it gets a lot wider and heavier.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now there's more and more tear and it's that kind of come through.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he looks around and he sees a pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he starts a sees that this tangible moving into the eastern.
[SPEAKER_01]: And immediately, this equipment's really good, by the way, it's an amazing inquisitor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Decides, all right, well, where can we, how do we stop this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Where, where do we have enough imperial forces to make this to actually push back?
[SPEAKER_01]: And luckily, there was kind of a key planet that is going right towards.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're, they're moving towards McRag.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which was,
[SPEAKER_01]: They, we were discussing with McRagus.
[SPEAKER_01]: So why don't you help help?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I know how much you love this army.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you tell everyone what McRagus?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they get shit on, but the ultra reeds are bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're the, the ultra, they're the best TPS reporters of all time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But also, there's some bad dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's the McRagus, the directors.
[SPEAKER_03]: home world of the ultra marines.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the ultra marines aren't exactly a chapter that goes, we should circle around and see what happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they will dig in and make you write a report about why they dug in, but they're not going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the tiradids have now effectively targeted the home relatives.
[SPEAKER_01]: little side note here because we haven't pointed out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gillen's dead at this stage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's Marty is Calgar is ready to rock and also a bunch of people that got super famous because of this work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Marty is Calgar is he's not Gilliman, but he's not that far below.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a bad team.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a leader ship is toughness.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calgar frickin.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a brilliant strategist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's Calgar rocks.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, they prepare.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have
[SPEAKER_03]: They're already making plans upon plans before they even get there because they've reviewed all the information that they got from him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the equipment shows up and tells Calguard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have proof they're coming here and Calguard doesn't do any of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The movie trope of like maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calguard goes all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all in and Calguard sends out the call.
[SPEAKER_01]: Imperial Navy's on its way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reinforcements, boom, boom, boom.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's effectively trying to turn, well, they're right into a floor transfer.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about what he actually also said.
[SPEAKER_03]: Calgar says, I'm not repelling this invasion.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to stamp it out of existence.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, this is going down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calgar was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what Calgar does is, I mean, this is referred to as one of those epic battles of fought really by any space marine chapter in the forty first millennia.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also, as heroic as it is, this is still one of the centimeters.
[SPEAKER_03]: The only good guys, sorry, I'll explain, guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Calgar just goes, I can't fortify every planet in the system.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of you guys are going to have to not exist anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is the first time where he really, love the first time.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's pretty pragmatic about what he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calgar realizes that the only way to stop an invasion of this size is to kind of do, is to force it into pure victories.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do we take entire worlds?
[SPEAKER_01]: Loads up with weapons, knowing that they're getting killed by a tyranny, but they're in tire purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it just take a pound of flesh from a tyranny fleet?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you kind of make it the weak in it in here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's also kind of loading them with not straight bombs and explosives, but straight bombs and explosives because he knew that from the videos he didn't want to leave a bunch of biomass.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he was kind of going, hey, if they get too close,
[SPEAKER_01]: Crack the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, blow it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crack the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're done.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what Calgar also does is really critical is he starts bringing a massive fleet into orbit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a giant, and you know, this is the bigger thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to tell.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, Terrence, it's a, we don't really know what Terren is.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do the tiered, it's like, did Calgary even have to hide the fleet?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or the tiered is not on the list.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, it's hard because they're so single of purpose when tiered it's in danger.
[SPEAKER_03]: You also don't know how much knowledge they have from the work.
[SPEAKER_03]: They use the work, but they don't go through the work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are they intercepting communications?
[SPEAKER_03]: They're blocking them off?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what do they know?
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, you have an overriding unbelievably powerful, unbelievably intelligent mind.
[SPEAKER_03]: You see, you don't know what their actual capabilities are.
[SPEAKER_01]: So in the dates, you're do matter.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's seven hundred fifty four of M forty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just to meet, you know, this is recent history.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's extreme recent history.
[SPEAKER_01]: The high fleet reaches McCregn and the ultra marines just open fire and killed basically a billion tyrannids.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're on shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just they're all gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, but that being said, like the stories from this era are
[SPEAKER_01]: that no one had ever conceived of if they swarmed this large.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're opening Salvo would have eliminated, like, like, like, they killed enough tyrannies that if it had been tall.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they, they, they, they ended up with a little bit of existence.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how many they killed in, like, the first forty-five minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: But every time that they killed one, three more popped up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is a good story because you put a note on it, but I think it requires.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's really tightens.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not nights.
[SPEAKER_03]: Titans.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, Titans are so large that they have their own marketplace ecosystems inside of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're gigantic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pacific Rim has nothing on tight.
[SPEAKER_01]: But a Pacific Rim is a night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Titans are the moon walking around the earth.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that moon is made up of guns.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: If they made it, the tiered ends went, we don't have the proper shit yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: What we're going to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: A bread and John, if we had a billion of you, do you guys think you could just drag this moon down?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're like, I guess we'll give it a shot and they did.
[SPEAKER_01]: the titans got probably millions of gants climbed onto the titans and just they started ripping out cables until they fell to the ground and then consumed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not that far out of this battle with the, the Ultraman's kind of hit the back foot here where it's like McCregg and then Craig is going to fall.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the biggest things about this is, is I don't think they were, well, they're always, the Marines are always overcrowping, but they were less overcrowping than they used to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: The tear in its blood poison.
[SPEAKER_01]: They would have been, that's the screen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were okay, but then during it's dropped some tainted oyster samples.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, well, now I got to put it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's slightly smoky out here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're probably gonna die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there was a lot of night fighting, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're, they're initial.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna be having them touched on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But what do the things is they, they showed up with so many guns on their initial salvo and push was so big and they killed so many things that you're thinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, we got this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is we got this.
[SPEAKER_03]: This might be a tough battle, but this is we were weening.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, yes, it's going to be an epic battle, but also we kind of won.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they realized, oh, shit, we need to do something.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when ends up happening, I don't love this part of writing here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's what they do every time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, all of a sudden, the space Marines are down to one last outpost.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, unless McCraig is like, I don't know an asteroid, which we know it's not like it's a giant world.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't have one, there's no out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm saying enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: New, that place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's so, anyway, so there's one out post left, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway,
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's last outpost is what's holding on.
[SPEAKER_01]: And actually Calgar is there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he gets mortally wounded by.
[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't even stop fighting though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the apothecary is working on him and he's legitimately fighting while people are just steam packing him up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And actually it's kind of, it's kind of bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's a wrecking thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I find let's so let's do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, possibly let's set the stage though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Marius Calgar fights with two, comically gigantic power fist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I let's do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, and if you haven't seen it, we haven't seen a power fist.
[SPEAKER_03]: Think Hellboy, but Hellboy's power is one fist is wildly too small.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got two of those is a weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So first off, they did name it cold steel rich.
[SPEAKER_01]: So those of you following at home were like, wait, mean hacksaw ridge?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like what I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Calgarnas troops are just, they're tearing apart their invading fleet.
[SPEAKER_03]: So at this base, they're just, well, another thing that's pretty badass, but you're, you're selling this short.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's fighting an epic battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're firing orbital bombardments.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just next to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is danger close.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, yeah, just fire air strikes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's calling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's calling here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll bombardments on himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, but just move it to aim the left of degree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where he had like, we'll be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yo, gigantic bombs going off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right next, if you will hear it's cool, because you've got the tyrannets coming over this ridge trying to come in and they're having to not only get through the fire, so the space means they're shooting out.
[SPEAKER_01]: The ships and orbit are firing orbital cannons down anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: And these are, I mean, tyrannets are fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: So some of the Gaunt's are able to cross and get in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now that the space means they're fighting with like chain swords and power fists against, you know, the Gaunt's and the genesis that they're getting in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a, this is,
[SPEAKER_01]: You're already not marable.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, also, however, you do have to give the can one guy turn the tides.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and no, the reason he turned the tide is the morret.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were making all your leadership checks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, the morret is standing on top of the mountain of bodies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just going, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't keep going.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't hear no bell.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at this point, the hive mind deploys, it's first, like, kind of specialized organization.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's called the swarmlord.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so for those of you who play the Forty-K North Realize, yeah, the swarmlord is a unique character, two tiradids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that being said, a swarmlord is both a unique character and not a unique.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a type of unit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because the hive mind can create, can recreate anything you want to create.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the thing is, he starts directing the flow of every audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, because as we said before, in the last cast, the high of time, it has the luxury of getting the feedback of every single unit, processing it and changing those units all telepathically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calgar has to radio his orders.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, out of nowhere, the tide is turning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the tyrannies begin actually
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they start using super crazy tactics though because they started playing possum.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had a whole, and I'm talking.
[SPEAKER_03]: carpets of guns that were pretending they were dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: They had the first time that they really saw.
[SPEAKER_03]: They saw it a little bit, but they didn't realize that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Terrence would just go dormant because they burrowed in and just sat there and waited for a go time and then they sprung up from the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a mess.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this turns the type out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the altruists, they turned the type.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were holding out one fortress on a
[SPEAKER_01]: on it and like but that fortress was doing really well anyway that fortress now has stopped doing well and the old now the alter means get overwhelmed.
[SPEAKER_01]: The swarm lord then as just like Calgar swarm lords leave from the front he comes straight up and it is the swarm lord legalizes that Calgar is the secret to the old shimmer and it the lines form and goes right at him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, to his credit, I mean, Calgar does go toe to toe with the swarmlard.
[SPEAKER_03]: He gets run through.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is for, like, just, I'm not in it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying he actually gets run through.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that being said, even because I now Calgar is a primary model, but if we take the original Calgar model, he's put it in a palace swarmlard.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually an accurate size difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm like, Rex and, and of course, this one, I can't kill him because Caligars honor guard and jump on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna save us from the hatred of Ultraman fans.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's on a guard that you mean the vitric scarred come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Scarred find the because those dudes are bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the vitric scarred all see this happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like in Horace, when Lehman Ross is about to get killed that they're stabbing Horace and all of the space was just jump on Horace and say, you're not stabbing him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if we if I die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what the vitric scar do to the swarm Lord.
[SPEAKER_01]: So able to grab Calgar and shove him in a thunderhawk and get him back into orbit.
[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, they're still
[SPEAKER_01]: losing pretty badly badly badly and she w writing anyway what they decide to do is take is one ship who's fighting an orbit realizes that they're gonna get that they're gonna die and turns their ship right into the heart of the tear and it fleets it was pretty badass because this is the explosives badass, but just they didn't have time, but they did didn't have the work core in
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, to the adaptations and again, not even just adaptations of the bodies and what they produce, but adaptations of tactics.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They just, this wasn't on the menu of possibilities.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just see a ship coming towards them and don't realize.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think they named the guy who does this, but maybe they do and I've just forgotten it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the ultimate ship drives into the heart.
[SPEAKER_01]: of the tyrannid fleet, detonates the warp drive, which basically causes an inverse of the warp to appear and sucks the entire, almost the entire territory.
[SPEAKER_03]: It kills all the synapses.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it sucks the whole fleet into the warp.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know where.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just in the warp somewhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, now all the synapses gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no connection.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this
[SPEAKER_01]: turns the tide again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now McRag, there's still billions of creatures, but they are meandering around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a bit of swarmlord, the kitchen of the swarmlord is gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they're just, they're more animalistic in the space marines.
[SPEAKER_01]: A space bridge can take a gaunt and a fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: No problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, now you can send to the five, especially if a few thousand of them at a time are just wandering around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now you can send terminals with heavy flamers in and yeah, we're good.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So McCregg is quote unquote saved.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just a planet, the systems because
[SPEAKER_03]: McRag and Ultramar, the system itself, is a lot of planets.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a big, this is where they were talking about recreating the Imperium of Man, starting here, because there were so many people, because this is a center of commerce, agriculture, and they have huge worlds with huge populations.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've gotten wrecked.
[SPEAKER_03]: The death toll is catastrophic going back to Star Phantom Menace.
[SPEAKER_03]: The death toll is catastrophic.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was just never mentioned the Phantom Menace ever again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that won the answer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't say for what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Costumes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you actually didn't win the light.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was constant.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't acting.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was almost wide and all of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it wasn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh God.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, script or acting it was not.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's actually really fascinating about this moment, though, is that they're celebrating that the space went to the impairing this morning, because they have destroyed the Zeno threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the Zeno threat, I don't mean a tenderl of a high fleet, because they don't know the exact thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They think they just killed the theory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because in let's talk about, let's roll this back just a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: At this time, the imperium of man does not understand how
[SPEAKER_01]: how big the high fleets are.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's point out, they still don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we still don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yes, I got you, but I'm saying the individual fleets, you know, okay, fair enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, we still don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: We still the individual named fleets.
[SPEAKER_03]: They stand at this time.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have no idea how big it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was a while it was a huge gigantic battle.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can call it war, but if they didn't know at the time, it wasn't a war.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a battle in a much larger area.
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't recursively at the most.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, mankind is no idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we still don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at the, at the, you know, we're right getting up towards a forty-second millennia now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've no idea how many tiering is there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't, we have no idea what is we covered in the Latin apps.
[SPEAKER_01]: what their motivation is, where they're coming from, anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: What we now know is there's a lot of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And at this point, they did not know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the imperiums about to learn the hard way about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: The thing is, is that they weren't wrong, but they weren't right at the same time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they did say, this is a civilization to call it a species that's going planet by planet and bringing everything with them, but they don't realize that this was tendrils of them bringing everything with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing that we're not going to get into too much here, but we should mention it is that we also now know that in a kind of no much like the Hercules and the Hydra, if you kill off a high fleet unless you eliminate every single part of it, this fleet actually will split and make a new fleet into two new high fleets that then will take different paths and we'll at the get fed will grow into new high fleets.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they will also adapt differently.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you know what I'm going into this course.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we're gonna talk about it a little bit later anyway, but I'm just gonna rock it.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of the high fleets in the game are pale comparisons to what happens in the lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because in the lore, the high fleets get very specialized by what they're fighting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a high fleet chrono, a high fleet chrono, a high fleet chrono, a high fleet you are longer there while they're all cheering.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the way that you everything is completely there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they adapt.
[SPEAKER_03]: They effectively made blanks even though they're psyched.
[SPEAKER_03]: Psychers.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they made
[SPEAKER_03]: whole fleets of gigantic creatures to be breachers and anti-tank.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have other fleets that are just supposed to be the fastest infiltrate basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And beyond, as we were doing this show now, it's I was planning for eighth edition tyrannids where they actually were like each stage fleet was a little bit more yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the I think the
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe six, then try to think back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just he kind of had that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing, you know, I'll get on my cell box again.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really enjoy when every faction detachment, which is detachment is a new, the new term for a new issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's me.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're different.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were just so different.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they were different in the way that they played because the stories are so different.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have whole fleets of just lictors and things of that nature.
[SPEAKER_03]: Infiltre just doing their thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you've had whole fleets of giant behemoth was just known as the... Sorry, you're smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And things of that nature and Kronos had was dim.
[SPEAKER_03]: accidentally fighting demons and they had to figure out a way to do it because they didn't get biomass from them because when you defeated them, they were gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they had to have new ways and they were adapting and these fleets are so wildly different from each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's one thing that doesn't anymore represented the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I am a little sad about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with all these leads, we also assume they're all connected back to a single hive mine.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as we said before, it could be multiple hive mines.
[SPEAKER_01]: We really don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which actually makes a difference.
[SPEAKER_03]: They be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It makes more sense to have multiple hive mines because of the fact that the fleets act wildly different.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they also are going different places.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're going to different places again.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but the fact that never fight is just that's what I go up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even orks will fight works.
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see all in.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just say even orks will fight orks.
[SPEAKER_01]: The entire purpose of or just a fight, of course, they fight each other who am I kidding.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the thing is when you're looking at the height, you know, screw this.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going on our John and Brad's.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like, fan twist fan fiction on his.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it makes more sense to me that there's more than one hive mind more like a council or a conglomeration to make a hive mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you making that up because you believe that or because you played starcraft so many times that's how it functions both.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, I'm with you on this, but I think you do struggle with the guys I've had laugh as I was right as I'm right in the notes for tearing it up because a lot of this stuff starts from memory and then I start doing the research.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wrote stuff that I realized later I was doing the research.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that was starcraft.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to delete it and pull it something.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it just makes more sense because of the way that they act and adapt and do things.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you have to
[SPEAKER_03]: It's mostly, I think that the hive might be just a synergistic, multiple minds forming one, because they do act differently.
[SPEAKER_01]: So from there, let's dive into kind of where they solve false decrep.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so about two hundred and fifty years, which is a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So two hundred and fifty years,
[SPEAKER_01]: Post, McCrick, we are now, a bad news thirteen through say it is now begun.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are full swing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's full swing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tau, the towel uprising is full swing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Drew Carrey are fully going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, Brad made it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be nicer about Tau.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're also, by the way, the Eastern French will get to the story with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that much longer, but I don't know where the Eastern French just explodes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But definitely the first time it was going quiet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's worker rebellion.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the Imperium doesn't haunt it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Respond to this because they've had cultists, rebellions and stuff, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: They haven't, they're not ready for jeans, they're rebellions.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they don't know the difference and how to do something about these.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and this story is actually really cool because it dives really into that problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you get this massive, like you're getting a worker protests, terrorism, all this stuff is occurring out in these from a French,
[SPEAKER_01]: And the, of course, the imperium that the, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,
[SPEAKER_01]: to which, you know, they say, don't worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll police ourselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not saying you're ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are by our people, but just the people already corrupt and by the genes do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, they're over.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the, but here's what's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: The inquisition then sends people out there and they're like, we don't trust you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they start searching for to Brad's point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chaosists, where is the cult?
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is the cult called this end?
[SPEAKER_01]: As we said when we talked about genus circle, these guys can pass the test of imperial citizen real well.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get there and they love the imperial.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, they're not, they're not cast-taintains.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not picking up on us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you put you put like the sanctioned psychers to search for, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're searching for the wrong thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, nothing there.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, Chaos cultists,
[SPEAKER_03]: Typically, tend to be larger groups led by people in high profile.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Governors, you know, jeans dealers do not do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: They want the four men of the third child out exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the main area of this is a plan called Icar for four.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I car for many years, of course, it's Jesus.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking, probably a hundred plus years before.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do generation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: A group called the Brotherhood.
[SPEAKER_01]: Up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is one of my favorite stories of all the Jesus or corruptors.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it really tells how the Jesus or corruptors work.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Brotherhood comes out of nowhere and they're just talking about how much they love the Emperor and they're worshiping the day the Emperor will come back to mankind in mortal form.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, wrong emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the ecclesiarchy are like, you know, run over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're gonna stamp out these heretics.
[SPEAKER_01]: But these guys are building these beautiful, incredible chapel and it is images of the emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no, as President, there's no chaos corruption anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just these guys really love the emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, the ecclesiarchy is like, well, I guess they can hang out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you guys are welcome to stay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and keep on building.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the, I depthed a bit of astronomers saying, well, everything, the brotherhoods and charge of
[SPEAKER_01]: It exceeds quota for production.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: When Gene's feels before Gene's feels, we've talked about it before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Before Gene's dealer corrupted worlds revolt is probably when they're at
[SPEAKER_03]: They're mostly the doctor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Best planet for the impairing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But giant exceeds expectations of all of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then eventually the brotherhood turns violent.
[SPEAKER_03]: It turns violent means like, oh, that guy was Queen's very rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to fight you.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, the planet erupts like any now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a member of the brotherhood is killed by brotherhood members.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's also to go back a little bit because
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a John make yourself do this Tuesday night.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he calls back and he's like, Brad, you tell Billy that he needs to do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, they're psychically connected.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, every everyone acts at once.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like when when it's go time, it's go time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Period.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: I do like the story again because remember at this up to this moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: the appearing is not aware of genes to those.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they don't even know the existence.
[SPEAKER_03]: They may have had, they know that they're, they mean that stuff that we are shooting on a space hole.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no content of use that it does not exist until this moment, because during the revolt, there's an inquisitor whose name I don't remember, it may actually have been written down and down.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do want to roll back a little bit, because this is usual, this is the appearance on full.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did have a gene still as before, because gene still is with kill ranking members of
[SPEAKER_03]: armed forces, but they were written as demonic possessions at the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the origin.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't always, but that's what they thought it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: So during back to the brotherhood and rebellion, an inquisitor is there on planet watching these cords of men attacking killer each other and he sees something.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what he sees is a pure stringing stealer.
[SPEAKER_01]: directing them around and he and this video has video of this of, hey, there's an alien in aliens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Correcting humans in this invasion.
[SPEAKER_01]: And clearly humans.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a much bigger problem than we thought.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he calls in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, the ultramarines are not far away.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which I don't know what the ultramarines do, but apparently they have like the bad signal for the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was nearby.
[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, yeah, forgot about the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so Calgar is notified it's tyrannids and he just goes, nah, he sends everyone there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is our story.
[SPEAKER_04]: So dumb and so cool at the same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the story is so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it just we're going to bring back the whole piece of terminators in the lower part of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so they go full anime though.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a hundred percent anime.
[SPEAKER_03]: One dudes in Calgar show up on the planet, which, by the way, is a planet of billion?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they show up on the giant temple they built for the emperor, which in really clever writing is actually a facade that sits above a subterranean complex.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we said before, most of the jeans that are cult members can't be seen by mankind, because they'll pick them up as Zeno's instantly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got
[SPEAKER_01]: probably billions of them, it below the core, but for this story, it's not that bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Twenty dudes showed up on the planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you do?
[SPEAKER_03]: And it started chewing bubble gum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty dudes and terminator armers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Marty is killed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Marty's Calguard teleport down.
[SPEAKER_01]: They wreck the entire temple, mostly with a one, one terminator, one.
[SPEAKER_01]: The flame has a heavy flavor.
[SPEAKER_01]: One with unending fuel.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll continue.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's honestly.
[SPEAKER_03]: He kills like twenty thousand people himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: They end up, that is, by the way, read that story.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not, I'm probably incorrect, but it's not that incorrect.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have that far off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so ends up, they, of course, because he was murdering down the, yeah, he's into the temple.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like he fights in a temple, kills over the temple, finds like the secret passageway, goes in the secret passageway, it just keeps murdering their way down till the patriarch shows up, and they kill the patriarch, which then does correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all the geese or cool members are now.
[SPEAKER_03]: The back of this, the Patriarch has a psychic connection to everyone in the James Taylor call.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also in it's he.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he basically overrides you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's completely control.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, it's.
[SPEAKER_03]: He fixes your, your genes.
[SPEAKER_03]: He actually changes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, genes do us.
[SPEAKER_03]: They change your genetic makeup so that you are, whether you want to be or not, one hundred percent loyal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do whatever he says.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with him gone, now what you do have is a planet full of.
[SPEAKER_01]: just rebels who don't even know where they are at this moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the imperium mops cleans up all of these.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I like to say because if you think if you think for a timing standpoint, they come in, they do the fight, they kill the patriarchy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now that is cleaning up and they're going, okay, whatever that was.
[SPEAKER_03]: Terminator's also go boss mode because they effectively go, they
[SPEAKER_03]: video game and then go level by level killing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, again, one to you terminated.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's why I said I go twenty gay it came might be a low number on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because they went.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where the main force was they went straight down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I went a little spoiler spoiler alert.
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't kill all of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: They killed everybody in that temple.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it went below the temple, but there was some other stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to treat it like at the end of aliens, the only way to be sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: After celebrating the victory, a couple years later, it's all worthless.
[SPEAKER_01]: The astronauts, all of a sudden, start dying or freaking out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the shadow of the warp begins to come around.
[SPEAKER_03]: But one of my favorite units, the tyrannical adventurers, no better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the, the, the, the ultramemes are already here.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's crazy though is that we're as lively behemoth, which was the first hit, you know, the ultramar system, and you've got through a few planets here and there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crackin' is a thousand-light year wide.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also, Crackin' doesn't tendril as much as the other ones.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crackin''s coming into the galaxy at a size no one's ever seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, I say luckily, because you know, you likes to write this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just decides to target two things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, bad news.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you could have things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, you could have grown so much larger if you would have just not gone after these targets.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you could argue that the first target that goes I cork for, which is because the genus or cult were there, they're being drawn to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we said earlier, the ultramarine's wiped out the genes to their cult, but not really.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they killed the genes to their cult, but they forgot to kill the genes, Steelers.
[SPEAKER_03]: the ternons as well as the starcraft horn as the ability to burrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so they don't realize this, but as this high-fleet cracking comes into orbit, run i-core four, tens of thousands of Jesus just come out of the planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's a big deal because they they start learning that
[SPEAKER_03]: you all of these planets can be a trap all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that that's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to go into this a little bit more, but moving forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the biggest things that if you're on a planet and you think nothing's going on, it could be because tunes are able to stay.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the, it doesn't come into the game, obviously.
[SPEAKER_03]: But one of the biggest things about tunes is they can just lay dormant for who knows them out of tune.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe not neck-run level sleep, but it's not that far.
[SPEAKER_01]: They really are.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's in is that the space marine tab, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can, they can,
[SPEAKER_01]: as the high fleet moves into orbit, the genius always pop out out of the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luckily, because of McCray, Calgar knows at this stage what works and what doesn't work against tyrannies, and he has fortified his positions with what does work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Spoiler, what works, fire, and volume, and all the bullets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't need, don't need big shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just rip.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it works for a period of time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, Calgar Epic Hero also wildly too private.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, let's let's name it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Calgar's lawful neutral at best.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's very lawful.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent lawful.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is, he's not lawful good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was on tell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calgar again, to help stop the Chris.
[SPEAKER_01]: It worked earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first traumatic war.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to work in the second traumatic war.
[SPEAKER_01]: Calgar begins just sacrificing planets as they're moving towards I. Corps to try and pull this leak.
[SPEAKER_01]: Orched earthy shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: But once they get to I. Corps, Calgar is ready to ready to party.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is, again, he's epic hero, pragmatic, not a bad dude, but a very, I'm willing, I'm willing to sacrifice you for the great.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as a tyranny fleet is fighting its way through the landing on ICORE and fighting the space Marines are just hammering the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this time, the difference was
[SPEAKER_01]: I think part of this is that I course not part of Ultraman.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Caldard doesn't really care about blowing up the thousand year old temple or whatever it is because and it's not my planet and I need to tear it's dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's waging a much more like Russians World War II style of scorched earth against the tyrannies that just in any it is just
[SPEAKER_03]: In the reading of this, he does set off.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you have a reactor of any show or whatsoever, it's probably rigged below.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just just saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: When's the writing here?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the storytelling here's going to be a little bit tough and about to flip, fix it in a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they win.
[SPEAKER_01]: The second-time around at war is actually a success.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cal Guard does at Icar IV by effectively turn the planet into a husk, defeat, high-fleet cracking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also kind of like let's back then up because Victory and the people that were from I got four were like Hey man, this place is a parking lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: There weren't I don't think there's any people who were from I go or four.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, true.
[SPEAKER_03]: There probably was one guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a super bum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he he pointed his mouth shut.
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked around.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like there's a bunch of ultimate talking around going like no, I like it more like this guy's the fastest.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually a better stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: They they high five and went victory for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, no, we're good here, but you might ask yourself, well, how does a thousand light year wide fleet just die to ultimatum?
[SPEAKER_04]: You should probably not talk about that because it makes no sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes, well, yes, starting in worse now will be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_01]: there actually was a second part of the fleet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Effectively, high fleet crack and decided after being a thousand light years wide to just make two very pinpoint maneuvers on two specific worlds and attack with full force.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm gonna give this a little prop because the attack makes no sense at the same time as the other.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, Eldar have to be just delicious.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's try to craft this under forty five minutes bread Fine because we're about to talk about craft world I ended which is one of my favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I know what we're stepping in do here All right, so a real quick thing we haven't done Eldar yet, so let's do a quick disclaimer what craft world is it is a
[SPEAKER_03]: flying planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's the easiest way to describe it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But flying planet would undersell it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a flying battle planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it is equipped with, of course, everything that you'd have from a planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of full ecosystem.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we say craft, bro, the craft world is not a world that the Eldar have labeled as their own.
[SPEAKER_01]: A craft world is mobile.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not that mobile.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's still traveling in FTL.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like, you know, I'm just saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not doing elvasive maneuver.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to invade a craft world, you can just go, I'm going to go in this general direction.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't exactly pivot fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it is a, I mean, it's where they live, but it's also fully ready to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a mobile world slash.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the crap, the elder were actually building these these things predate the birth of slenash, but they were meant to be a way for they could.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's an arc to go in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were meant to be able to fight because the elder one making this out of time with the galaxy was not a safe place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crafts rolls are not undefensible.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: also elder also was not very nice to people.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's also.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to flee your home systems, you know, we're probably going to need people that we've done.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been pretty much anything through that exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the cool thing though, let's help the old R out here, is that the Tyrannet threat doesn't necessarily know that much about Eldar, and they all don't have the black libraries.
[SPEAKER_01]: They actually do know a decent amount of alternatives at this stage.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they know more than anybody knows at this point in time, because they also, again, have far serious who are pre-cogs who look into the future, and there's a lot of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they get their coalesce, their data together, and go, what is the best way we can do to handle this?
[SPEAKER_03]: They knew this was going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of do mele and talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, well, they did a little specific.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm just saying they knew some, but they they all of it is at the lower and we'll cover it's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eldar pre-cog is an interesting
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, they know everything sometimes and they know nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But other key thing is that whether from an I core had a full geezer and they call them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Investation, there are no geezer or call them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Investations on elders impossible, but two sites.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also laughable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do a great part.
[SPEAKER_03]: They like, hey, this guy is like, definitely, they should splutter pistol.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was the next.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the turning fleet emerges near the craft world and the Eldar fleet just goes to town.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eldar are light years faster with massive guns and are just picking this fleet apart.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, the tiered ends go, hey, these guys can work that, you know, screw it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still using all of our smart earned sports analogies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Eldar's working the job like no one's business.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone is boxing your fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they say, and turn and go, cool, nice jab.
[SPEAKER_03]: How about I just bring everybody from the stance into the game pile you?
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is their tactic?
[SPEAKER_03]: They just bring everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when it's happening is as this battle is commencing the tear and it's, sorry, that as this battle is commencing the elder realized that they're racking up like a three, four hundred to one kill ratio.
[SPEAKER_01]: but they're outnumbered ten thousand to one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't matter the over time that they realize this is where their pre-cogs are pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: They realize quite quickly that they are going to lose this because there's gonna run out of people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, it's a big deal because Shadows in the Warp is a way bigger deal for the elder because it's not cutting off communications.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's cutting off
[SPEAKER_03]: They're one of their main sources of damage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this one actually also caused there was a problem here where it right in when I was reading the codex, it was making the comment that the shadow in the warp disrupted the ability of the elder use the webways.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it does mix plain how and I'm going to be honest, I can't figure that one out completely.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of things are supposedly just tied into.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a big deal because they go it's kind of like when you talk about screw it.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you ever played any of the Star Wars games when they talk about a Jedi losing his connection with a force becomes super shitty because he's so used to using it for everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, if I grab a cup, I'm not going to walk over and get the cup.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to have a cup of fly over to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can you do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a psycher.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: They do it with everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: They enter, I think, the end of the web way by thinking this, thinking, psychic, psychic power because they don't know any other way because I, why would I ever do anything else?
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe this is, we do have a live list in this cast who love Eldar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me how that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: I spent an hour trying to find and then gave up with all my dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, when you basically have a, yeah, I'll go into it though, because when you have a race that magic is part of everyday life, it's not in these epic, you know, human psychers are our, your writing bolts are doing all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Elder is,
[SPEAKER_03]: Small things all the time every day here.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's your whole life is psychic powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: The guy that makes muffins is a psychic in hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what ended up happening, though, is that they'll realize they're going to lose.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the older are also are not vicious.
[SPEAKER_01]: And their viewpoint is, all right, well, we're going to fight till the very last of us is here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan McCall for help.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just not going to roll over because we're elder.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're, they're also making rave constructs like no one's doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're, they're, they're, they're throwing them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, whoa, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rave nights, rave blades, rave lords.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll cover a yandana.
[SPEAKER_03]: And everybody that just died is coming back with a pretty big vengeance now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you killed everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to change into my, my new outfit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to tell you all about how I feel about that happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is called a four sex.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: You killed everybody I know that I've known for a thousand years.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna have something to say about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Give me a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: As I end and know are on their back foot and the tyranny fleets gonna kill them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Prince cereal puts on his molecule and rocks in baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, he kept his jacks spirals in.
[SPEAKER_01]: None of you can see the facial expression.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm learning rubbing my temples.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure he is right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Red so happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, this story is a good one, but it's just they do it every frickin' time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, there was Prince Yereau rides in with Corsair's, baby?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Prince Yereau, which we'll cover another time, has been banished by Iyandan for making a pretty stupid move fighting some demons.
[SPEAKER_03]: several times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, numerous times.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he wasn't like he made one mistake.
[SPEAKER_03]: He kind of did it a bunch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, so Euryl is just wandering the galaxy alone trying to redeem himself for his for his mistakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he messes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, well, that's, that's where this Tulsa is stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's this, he's an outcast of craft, Roda Yenden.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they did an entire anime on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he senses Ayaniden is under its greatest threat since the birth of Slonesh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he brings his fleet with him to go save them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is a bonkers big fleet?
[SPEAKER_01]: The fleet's larger than Ayaniden's fleet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the guy who was an outcast had more ships and people, the pirate craft world.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was outcasted.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't flee John.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why are you not picking up on this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Powerflake made up of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that, but Eldar don't replicate.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's he literally left with more people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: How showed up with more people than we're on, I am.
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you banish someone who represents seventy percent of you?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically what this was.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, is ear to ear growing right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you can see he's so happy because he loves this story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can drop some mouth a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's so excited about Prince Euryl who, by the way, is only bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I from a real standpoint is maybe the only shitty.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing these tire in the entire elder model line.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the only one that's what he used to be back when what addition fifth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fourth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You actually, that's a lie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it might have been third.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're.
[SPEAKER_01]: I brought first a black hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I brought an insane class.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was Prince cereal to the two thousand one Baltimore GT.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he almost predates cell phones.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's what he was all about.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that the year old does come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: He puts them beating.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he's just rucks them just completely just the entire high fleet and the orbit around the end and just ceases to exist.
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes, and your real is a badass.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your real is, we talked about how genius a strategist Calagarr is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your real is probably the greatest.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's wild based fighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is yet no one fights in combat in the space better than Prince your real.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the biggest thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, they haven't had time to adapt to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the towel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Getting up is.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have an attempt at deficit because Euryl is doing something that they have an encounter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is, he just keeps making passing.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just keeps making stupid attacks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really not that impressive.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just goes, what if we just fly really, really fast and shoot all our guns at them and turn around and do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it actually, you know what I sure list it was as we're saying, it's heated space invaders.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what this was.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to keep going left to write shooting all of the tear and it's and get to like level fifty five of space and beta and then what he does to rush the tenants he does he kills off all the tear and it's and this part does bother me because
[SPEAKER_01]: If the beginning, now it'd be fair to UW the story of the invasion by the Kraken invasion.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like that it started in the third edition, including for the edition.
[SPEAKER_01]: So all of this has written its entirety in the past tense.
[SPEAKER_01]: But effectively, true, if I'm reading it in the codex, as we've said here, I'm most as we codex is, it starts off with the largest, tyrannid invasion in history.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is unstoppable large.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is impossible, monumental task.
[SPEAKER_01]: And thanks to two battles, Kraken doesn't exist.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I can do this to people easily.
[SPEAKER_03]: Return to the Jedi.
[SPEAKER_03]: They kill the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, don't we outnumber the rebels about a hundred to one in ships?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but they kill the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they lost the Emperor's dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's over, guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they were they booked the second death star.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can kill them right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: We outnumber them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like sorry guys, it's the rules.
[SPEAKER_03]: We lost.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's effectively what just happened here.
[SPEAKER_03]: We want these two battles.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we were we could just kill them, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like now guys, it's it's in the bylaws.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can't win if we lose these two.
[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, so now that the second tyrannica war has concluded, and the galaxy is nowhere near at peace at this moment, we still have to have everything else going on, fast forward about seven years, and it really goes nuts.
[SPEAKER_01]: The crack and fleets start coming in from it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We also get the rejuvenation, as you talked, he said before.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get a couple dead fleets that came back to life because you left them alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: And news flash, if you go to an agro world, farmers with pitchforks don't do super well against tear and innovations, even if they're small.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what's interesting from a writing standpoint, so we're about to get into some of the best stories of the tear and innovation.
[SPEAKER_01]: after the defeat of crackings at McCray and I use him.
[SPEAKER_01]: we get the emergence of high fleet Leviathan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we have other fleets as point for your mongers and your monger cronos.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all in the galaxy too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, we're still on high for Leviathan for the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now we've so that's swell because Leviathan's mighty large.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is only five years post the defeat of Kraken.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rimichon, which it just didn't get defeat though, because it still has the mass.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that the biggest, the probably the two largest tendrils work
[SPEAKER_03]: They kicked it back, but then it's still a giant fleet.
[SPEAKER_01]: It isn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: To me, the problem is that the fleet actually is now splintered.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is the problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Kraken fleet now is splintering to other fleets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, it's still a threat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me, Roy.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still a thousand flight.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's out wide.
[SPEAKER_01]: Big.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big fleet, but it's not, it's just not.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, we won.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're like, there's still a bunch of dudes outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're still quadrillions of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We won.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, I declared we won.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're going to dive into a Crippman.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as we said before, Crippman is the inquisitor for tiering.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically the Crippman's entire purpose in this world is the kill tiering.
[SPEAKER_01]: It says we like to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: He notices that the southern part of the galaxy is now going dark.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm waiting for John who loses mind about South again to continue.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just in three-D space, bottom lower.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's technically bottom lower.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't sell it though.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I mean, it's just so dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also this piece of like how big are the frickin' tear it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're talking about
[SPEAKER_01]: A hundred, it's at a million light years is between it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, that's what I said.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, they, they won two battles.
[SPEAKER_03]: They, they split their two tendrils.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing's done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, I'm saying, say more, like, we're getting this point now.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do this and I'll dive into a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Cretman sees just all, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, there's an arterial invasion.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what he does is, I like to say, he really burns out astrapats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, whoa.
[SPEAKER_03]: He had Ted and Johnny came up.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he's firing these guys out of cannons.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a fact that he's like, like, lashing to astrapats closer to each other so he can make one hardcore message to pierce through the shot in the work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which, by the way, he does, he puts them in a carnival cannon like bronze.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just like to start because he's literally forcing these, I mean, literally a dead bread there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's taking these astrapas and also have them to shoot their brain through the instant warp.
[SPEAKER_01]: they make contact through the show up to the Asher pads on the other side who are just screaming help help burns both them out and they learn quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we have a problem over there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys are super done and he does this a bunch by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has equipment like all good inquisitors gives zero F's about astronauts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's just knocking these guys with bats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's doing whack-a-mole with astronauts.
[SPEAKER_01]: The issue that Crippen does discover, though, is that this is a tiered invasion that is now larger than any tiered invasion up to the state, and two to three times closer to Terra than any invasion I'd ever been.
[SPEAKER_03]: To be found?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also learned from all the others.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he then organizes the fences and says we have to do some of this, this fleet will end.
[SPEAKER_03]: Leviathan is
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the, at the time, at this time is the perfectly adapted fleet because it's not a specialized fleet.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a chrono, so it's not a behemoth, it's not a year longer.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the, I've taken.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's, it's massive, but it also has taken all of the information from every other fight that's happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have every organism that the other fleets have created effectively ready to go online in this fleet.
[SPEAKER_01]: What Crippman does is he realizes that the way it's coming into the galaxies, like the term that uses a mall, it's a jaw.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a jaw that's further to left.
[SPEAKER_01]: A jaw that's further to the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad's got to point him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's used to West anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in left and right because it's equally accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: And realizes that as this mall closes, he'll just drink with the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he goes, we're going to take out half the small.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this story's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: He takes astronomical time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, Imperial Navy, Ultramarines, Death Watch, which is the right thing to take is they have antisinos mojo.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they all go and just, and they do, they wreck a giant chunk of this Leviathan in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: They actually go on a huge winning tree.
[SPEAKER_03]: They wreck, engagement after engagement.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get, I mean, we're talking a hundred and nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they just wrecked.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this effectively saves the galaxy because he takes this one chunk of them all out.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now it can't just collapse and eat a whole bunch of bottom sections.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a big thing because he was also trying to save the logistics of the impairment.
[SPEAKER_03]: You would have lost that section of the galaxy and the ability to give ships, fleet, food, fuel, everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember, the impairment.
[SPEAKER_03]: is a giant machine, but it's also a wildly specialized machine.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just says, I'm going to make this planet make wheels.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you lose all the wheels, you can still make tanks, but they don't go wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crippin' though can only do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The galaxy has too much war, the Imperium can't commit enough forces to do what he did on the left side of the mall, but to all they want to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we have a full cast invasion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: We still have Necrons.
[SPEAKER_01]: We still have Ju-Kari.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're harassed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Technically, we still have Tao.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tao.
[SPEAKER_01]: What equipment then has to do is he has to decide, well, how else can I fight this invasion?
[SPEAKER_01]: And he does something that's going to get him in a lot of trouble.
[SPEAKER_01]: He realizes that if you just starve the tear and it's, well, they can't grow.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did what Marty's Calgar had kind of done.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he takes it to an inquisition, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he does exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Calgar was taking people away, blowing things up, blowing planets up at the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: How about if I just kill everyone?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, except for three sides.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Crippen decides to do this at a scale no one's ever seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: He effectively takes every world with any semblance of life.
[SPEAKER_01]: He for millions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he for multiple, like, light years apart in front of a tiered invasion just kills.
[SPEAKER_01]: And well, it's, he just blows those planets up.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just orders exterminates all of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, technically what he ordered was the evacuation and destruction of the planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, except for the fact that several of these planets he went, you guys should leave and then blew them up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you didn't do it yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, anyway, we're here now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, you only said that to the bridge sir.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they didn't hear it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is recorded as Cretman actually kills due to this order.
[SPEAKER_01]: More imperials than anyone else except for the forest heresy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the last time this many imperial citizens died.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Crippman gets in a little bit of shit for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by a little bit of shit, he gets stripped of tight on all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, again, I actually like Crippman, like Crippman, while Crippman is cool, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's not a cool dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my worst story is a good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, what Crippman does is last little act, though, is as he's about the basically, because the fight
[SPEAKER_01]: They stripped off his title they didn't kill him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't arrested, he wasn't charged.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was just no longer a lord inquisitor.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he, in the story, he still has his schedule of right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but it's a, it's a, you know, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're thinking we're here.
[SPEAKER_03]: He can just show up and go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but at the same time, he technically, they can't call it, so I'm not to say anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're really doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, all right, we're like, we're not going to let you just white plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's any more.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, but he also kind of getting to know.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a weird thing because he still kind of has all this stuff unless you double check him, he can kind of just keep doing whatever the hell he wants to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crippman though, and they're like, fine, if we're gonna be asked, why do I let Crippman, because this last little thing he does, I think is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Crippman realizes that, hood, aside from just blowing up every planet in front of the, the Derenons, what if I just put an impossible force in front of them that didn't cost a single imperial life?
[SPEAKER_01]: Orc orc orc orc orc orc orc orc orc orc orc.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something like a good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what he does is he just,
[SPEAKER_01]: He finds a hibernating hiveship.
[SPEAKER_01]: How he does this?
[SPEAKER_01]: No one's really sure, but he finds one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he drags it near an orc colony.
[SPEAKER_01]: The York's attack, the hiveship wakes up, the hiveship sends out a distress call, and he begins a perpetual motion machine of death.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, uh, New York's go cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll fight you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the, the tiered is make, or fighting our abominations, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and, because that's why this battle gets amazing, because effectively this tiered high of ship sends out a call saying, Hey, because, orks, while they are soulless and not really useful for demons, they are organic matter.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are consumable by the tiered and it's
[SPEAKER_01]: and as an orc fights and more orcs appear.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got now almost an infinite source of organic met matter is coming into a galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: The tyrannids just turn and go right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now you've got this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And unfortunately when you do that,
[SPEAKER_03]: or it's going, oh, cool, more, more, more.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so you've got this kind of, it's really great battle happening where we've got orcs, or if, I mean, orcs basically teleport in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know how, we'd be definitely how it works up here, but the bigger the battle, the more orcs.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna do this call along.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are now, well, this actually isn't even an official wallet, which is what's interesting about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is true.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, we know it's a baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a, we're not an official wallet yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: The, the orgs are just hammering into this area and the tyrannids are following in because for the tyrannids, this might be the most valuable asset they've encountered so far because the amount of biomass that's going to be available from killing all these orgs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say there's a little bit of a danger here.
[SPEAKER_01]: The equipment does know it.
[SPEAKER_01]: If the tyrannids are victorious, they will have so much, they'll have two things.
[SPEAKER_01]: One, so much biomass that we actually, let's just make new fleets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, they're going to make new tyrannids out of the York DNA.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't want that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to take a side note here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of that biomass is technically tyranny, do the least quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I like the idea of the tyranny that's consuming our grant you a quick off to bring it back to being a tyranny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like guys Bronco riding.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just like I can ride that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get into what is probably the greatest story of the Terran invasion, cough, cough, suck at blood angels, there is one more I want to talk about, which is the doom of malintime.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's very, really shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is such a great model with a great effect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great effect.
[SPEAKER_01]: This entire story, by the way, is like three paragraphs in the history of the lore, but it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: So remember earlier when I Yandon was under assault from the Terranids and they fought back in one,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that didn't happen every time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if a guy's name is the doom of, and the name, they probably, the, the word after doom of, probably didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, if you play Forty Kay, you're probably aware of the different craft worlds.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've never heard of the craft world malintime.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's because that craft world doesn't exist anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: This craft world was under a salt pipe, even a very large split.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a split.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not, it was a split.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a split.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not, it was a split.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't even a big one.
[SPEAKER_01]: They tear and held our, they were up back, did a good job actually blew up the hive.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, they actually wrecked them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the hive ship drops and spores one of the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the end, the challenge out our half is they kind of, sometimes they're almost too bureaucratic and they began attacking and killing the things that they view were most dangerous to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not necessarily understanding all of the different dangers.
[SPEAKER_03]: One such, also as always, pretty overcome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they didn't recognize that there was a single zone throw that wasn't even a tapping anything, which is kind of moving across the landscape, eating that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was, it was, it was just, it wasn't doing the same stuff as the genus, though, it was in the Carnive X. They're focusing on them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but it was literally walking around feeding off psychic energy, which is,
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, everywhere on a craft room.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and somehow, despite all the far seers, it couldn't figure what was about to happen here, so they didn't see that far into this seer, the doom of malintized zone thrope reached.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something you don't really want to reach, which is the infinity circuit, which is where all of the tyrannid souls are stored.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hellnarsalos, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: All of the elder souls are stored.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have no idea what happened when it got there, or then it got there, and that craft world doesn't exist anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the end of the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying the doom of Valentine probably had to spend a decent amount of time leveling up and choosing its new skills and feats.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the entire story is this is Owen Thrope.
[SPEAKER_01]: reached the infinity circuit and ended the craft.
[SPEAKER_01]: The end of the craft world was found, I think, like, a hundred years later, a husk, just a husk and floating with some records of this happening, but nothing post it reaching the infinity circuit.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is another story that we should cover, and that I'm going to do very, very quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there was a moment where the cow encountered the tyrannets.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to, yes, talking about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're doing it real quick because I'm going to cover it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I was going to write it in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually don't want to shit on the towel that hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to cover that in the towel cast and the reason why is because what the towel did in trying to contact and be cool to the tear and it's trying to negotiate.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it makes sense when you understand the entirety of the Tallor.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't do the whole Tallor, it just makes them sound like complete morons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it stupid move?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but if you understand Tallor, it actually made some sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it hit off.
[SPEAKER_03]: It did.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, because it does follow their rules of contact.
[SPEAKER_01]: It either rules of contact or seeing, they didn't understand how dangerous they were.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't, that's why people are like, oh, is John going to shit on the towel for thirty minutes in this cast and like, no, another cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll save it for a towel cast where I can probably do some more stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it just, it's honestly that would be, that's, that's punching down.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I'm not going to, I don't, I don't punch them.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're not going to do that, can we talk about the
[SPEAKER_03]: Second biggest brawl in Forty Kay outside of the horror fantasy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we talking about a certain devastation of ball?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it actually has one of the best endings of any story they've done.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also a big.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: This starts out as a battle and then becomes a a donny brook and then becomes a whole shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who the hell is even here?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, who's even fighting who?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it also who's not here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a part of that kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not so.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Viathon tendrils are coming into the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: As we said, we've got some of them are fighting orcs now, some of them got killed off by Krypton, but there's still our large tendrils.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of them just sets a B line for the homeworld of the blood angels.
[SPEAKER_03]: which is pretty awesome, by the way, because Dante lights up the flames of God or... Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone shows... And this is recorded as the largest tendril that they've ever seen in Imperial history, and it's going right towards Ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, San Guinness is there.
[SPEAKER_01]: No spoiler right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've covered it a bunch of times.
[SPEAKER_01]: The head of the blooding goes now is Commander Dante.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it but then they says I need every successor chapter back and they all every one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he puts it out the call.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying it's pretty awesome because the some of these are like far every single drops everything they're doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: and runs and runs.
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys are not entirely welcome in the imperial flesh terrors are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a bunch of sketch guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some of these, like, we'll cover these guys in the cast of Blood Angels has some successor chapters that they're so close to chaos that they will be, let's name a couple of flesh terrors, absolvers, blood, drinkers.
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys are not exactly like
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the blood drinkers are here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get a dinner party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are we just dead now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're just dead, aren't we?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're all dead, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But they call all of them in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking, this is the largest planetary defense since Hera was defended against horse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Besides, we won't, we won't talk about the space was besides space was.
[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't seen a legion together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the state was so tricky because this is actually a thing more impresses in the space walls because the space walls didn't do the second founding.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, we'll go in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Five.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, I got officially.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is the playing those did, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So the playing those calling and the playing those coming and it's saying, all of us in pure violation of Gilman, hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, uh, they reassembled a legion.
[SPEAKER_01]: You remember hundred percent splintered?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, the fact that they made so many different successor chapters, and then reassemble means we're bigger than the original Legion was.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, I mean, you're certain, and this is not even including all of the guardsmen, trillions, more of guardsmen.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's so much?
[SPEAKER_01]: Entire fleets of the Imperial Navy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's pleasant again.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've touched on it, but it's been a long time in episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Space Marines don't just show up with another Space Marines.
[SPEAKER_03]: Space Marines show up with Space Marines and the two million guardsman tanks, fleets, support staff.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're showing up with a bunch of guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not, you know, Dante and his bros, you're showing up with
[SPEAKER_01]: millions of billions of guardsmen, and not to live that, they even armed the populace.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they turned ball into maybe the most defended planet in the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, actually, I would argue, and this is a funny foreshadder under here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's better to fend it than Katie.
[SPEAKER_03]: At the time, because it's more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's better to fend it than Katie, which is really important.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's a big deal because you have about the same amount of guardsman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you add a metric ton of marines.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, Marines not knowing for being chill guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have some of the most.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go a second most aggressive Marines, but it could be first most aggressive, depending on whether you've painted your, your Marine Legion Red.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to get in the middle of a blood angel space will fight here between fans.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this and also they know about the tear and it's at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're aware of what's coming all the details and Dante is just ready to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the sad part about this is Dante despite all this
[SPEAKER_01]: you know what he would call it reinforcement.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also recognize this could be the end of the blood angels.
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the last things he does before the shadow of the warp overtakes them and the high fleet arrives is he couldn't take all the genes seed from the planet and ships it off world back towards terror.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but he also took a bunch of their awesome shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and there are the facts, everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: He basically was saying, we may all die here, but I'm going to make it so that we can rise again, and it should we not succeed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because again, these stories, I am actually, I have no reason not to like, but I know I'm never going to be in a huge fan of blood angels, but I love their lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I think he just says that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing is, he says, I'm going to fight until the very end, but also
[SPEAKER_03]: Even I have no idea how we're going to win this.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is this is whole this is hopeless odds.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like there's Vegas won't take a bet on this fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'll be honest it doesn't go well
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they come in.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a reason why it's called the devastation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, it doesn't go well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were outnumbered hundreds or thousands to one by this turn of lead.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I say thousands, I'm not saying a thousand homogons to one space-man-terminate armor, which we've covered in the lore, turning armor is fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking probably a hundred carnifixes.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to begin on this because again, I want to go into the fact that Leviathan has all of the knowledge of all the other fleets and incursions.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are ready to fight the Imperium with perfectly adapted organisms to fight against Marines, to fight against tanks.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have everything they need to fight against everything the Imperiums ever put forward to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it goes, tell me wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: The players put up on hell of a fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they weigh that their way for being back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: The millions of upterians are lying dead almost instantly, but
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just too many, but high feet Leviathan actually redeployed the swarm lord, which is, this, again, the swarm lord, man, that model is not that good in the table top.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but in the lore, he is, he's a tactical genius.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in the lore, he's gilliment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's actually with better than gilliment, actually.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's maybe more than the best tactic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the biggest thing about him is he, because he has a dick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he gets people with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: But one of the biggest things about it is his when he's there, he, because the minds are so complex.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's actually using every organism around him as one of his appendages, basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're fighting a guy that's also using his forty seven thousand other arms is effectively how he fights.
[SPEAKER_01]: And eventually, this just like we were talking with a Yand and they are getting, they just cannot maintain a kill ratio that doesn't mathematically end with the blade angels all die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's just two men.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the problem is, is that one of the the best things about the Terence, you go off, they just keep using more people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but why that's such a great tactic is
[SPEAKER_03]: Once you touch all the guns, and in the game, I mean, think about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the game of Forty Kay, once you start touching everybody's guns, the only thing you can fight in is the stuff that's right next to you, which means that once I grab all the heavy weapons, the guns, the tanks, the whatever, you no longer can fire at the next waves, which is what you were doing to keep away from.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once I stop you from stopping all the new waves, you can only fight
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't crunching guys next to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: A flesh tear holding a chain sword kills a lot of tear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, but the problem is is that the demolishes aren't shooting anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: The predators are shooting right in front of them instead of a quarter mile down the street in the combat.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not in the night edition predator.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I'm saying is it's a big thing on that is you're no longer dealing with the stuff that's out coming to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're only dealing with the stuff that's immediately touching it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, as this is all going on, this is when we didn't mention, and this is, I did some purpose.
[SPEAKER_01]: The invasion of ball begins in a curse in nine, nine, nine of them, forty one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why does that matter?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're all, so this is nine, nine, nine of them, forty one is the last year of that and the thirteenth crusade.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably a coincidence.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as,
[SPEAKER_01]: ball is turning and starting to get wrecked by the tyrannids is the exact same moment that the will of eternity begins falling from the sky on Katie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's trapping the people's up on right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: explodes, and all the pylons are broken.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the eye of terror goes from an eye of terror, to the earth.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which has the galaxy in half.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that rift goes pretty close to ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I mentioning this?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going back a few episodes to our old buddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I don't know when this was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cabanda.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cabanda for those who forgot is the blood therster who defeated Sanguanyas.
[SPEAKER_03]: and then get his ass blocked.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, he wanted a split decision victory versus St.
[SPEAKER_03]: Witness and then St.
[SPEAKER_03]: Witness took him first round knocked out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he took it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He took him over the walls of Terra.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: and broke his back while talking shit to everyone through down.
[SPEAKER_01]: So come on this guy a bit of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's that super excited about the blood age.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but he vowed after the last time saying it's a crap out of him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot that this is the reason he's here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he found nobody kills.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we killed what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am going to destroy this Legion.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so as the Tyrion fleet is invading and wrecking ball, he is stuck in the warp, watching his, whatever you want to call it, his purpose in the world disappear because the blade is getting wrecked.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then a door opens right in front of him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, no, yeah, boom, this is my, because remember, Cobb and at this moment now, I can get in there, but he is a, he's me, one of the top bloodthirsty of all of corn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Corn is not the God of wantless slaughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the God of combat.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Khabanda decides, yes, I could go, I could go jump ahead of the tyrannids and kill off the rest of the blade and go, but that's not what I vowed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am going to take the blade and just at their full strength and destroy them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, a giant warp storm erupts above ball and billions or more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of bloodletters, blood crushers and blood thersures attack the tyrannets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is white as a LWWE kind of story on.
[SPEAKER_01]: cannot tell you how much I love this story about the idea of like you're on a planet and you're fighting the tyrannies and you're on your back foot your buddies are dying and you look up any warp storm above you open remember this is one of my favorite things about corn is they don't physics don't bother them they blow the brass the horn
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the blast horns.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as you look up, think of your blood angel, you're fighting a tear in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you look up and blood thirsters start falling from the sky.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this really can't get any worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: They run the move.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they can't get any worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the blood thirsters just kill all of the tear in it that you were fighting.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then leave.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a disappear.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're just sitting there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's, I mean, there's a lot of movie weapons you can make here, but you're sitting there standing around holding your chain sorts, probably still dripping with tear in it, blood.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the blood, there's just killed the tyranny.
[SPEAKER_03]: This does happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are selling it short again.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the boys and blue did show up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, I know that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the, the, but they show up after us.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's just what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mom's saying is like some, you know, there's a flesh tears sitting there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he just while fighting a tear in it, a bloodthirsty appears kills a tear in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's basically gives you the finger.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can just run somewhere else up to kill a tear in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just sit or hold the chains sword like, all right, let's get ready to fight the bloodthirsty.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they all leave.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have to say to yourself, did I die and I'm just dreaming this happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then of course, the bread's point where the part of this that every blood into a player hates is that this all ends.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the demons disappear, but there's still some tear in its left.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as the blade does get ready to go kill off the rest of the bloody angels, the ultra moving show up and say, kill guys don't worry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got this ultra means kill steal like a motherfucker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, you better play any MMRPG.
[SPEAKER_03]: The ultra range showed up when the boss is at one percent killed it and took the loot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, the experience we did it.
[SPEAKER_01]: High five, there's high five in the blame.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the blame is like, I don't want to high five you back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not bumping it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, like do like those that will be sorry, I forgot to mention, I love is.
[SPEAKER_01]: After all, all of them, the demons disappear.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are pyramids.
[SPEAKER_01]: of tyrannic skulls, the commander that commander left with his basically signed to the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, with tyrannic skulls.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he did like a concert thing where it's lighting up, he's only going, yeah, co-bondock.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, co-bondock.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wrote co-bonda in tyrannic skulls on the ball, which is just so bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't just write it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a pyramid size.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pyramids.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great story.
[SPEAKER_01]: And since then, the players have now been rebuilding your legions so they can set up a combined deck and come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jumping quickly is to catch everyone up to where we are now in modern forty.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the latest book, High Fleet Leviathan seems to have, you know, we, we cooped and it's, it's coming back.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was so big that I don't think it ever was anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It also, the thing is, is that this is the Imperium's fault, but not their fault.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Imperium's just so big that if you leave a fleet, a high fleet with anybody, I'm sorry, but that so many worlds are effectively undefended, even if they are, you can just
[SPEAKER_01]: biomass, you can just make a new fleet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and there seems to be a new fleet that's been coming in from the top and left, which is very close to Terra.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as this one's been ripping through, now, a rather key and important person in the Imperium has taken notice as Trajan Velouris, who's the head of the custodian guard.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's not super excited about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when the head of the custodian guard decides we're going to do something,
[SPEAKER_01]: All that bureaucracy thing that we're doing is getting this shit done.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's over quickly when Trajan says we're doing this.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no like, well, you didn't fill out the full.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, my God.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he also has a double Lord status, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's a double Lord of terror.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that that does help.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is still a situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has now built, and we're going to cover this more when we do custodes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually now built his own version of Death Watch that consists of custodes, sisters of battle, such as of silence, space marines, knights, and all other forces of the Imperium whose entire purpose is kill all the tyrannids that are near Terra.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gilliman, who is now is alive again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to cover that later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's now alive again has also now taken the primaries and is hurtling in primaries marines, you know, into this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now in the current book, is this will change this will change in the current.
[SPEAKER_03]: Brian, next.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the next.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, tyrannids are the greatest threat to the galaxy and Gilliman is for the next two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you don't know, though, if the prize price doesn't, there's no book with pride.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a mission.
[SPEAKER_01]: My guess is it'll be eleven.
[SPEAKER_01]: The addition will make something else up, or which will be a bad news.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fourteenth crusade, some new silent king thing will not be the towel.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the tutors are wildly the problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing is, is that getting a machine together, because I don't want to just throw it out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But my opinion is,
[SPEAKER_03]: The imperium has to stamp out full scorched earth version of killing the nids.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nids are never going to be gone because you can't find all of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: What nids nids are like are works.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing as works.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll never wipe them out completely, but you need to stop them before they get momentum.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or it's just out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if they get too much biomass, Leviathan's too big, all of these are just, we've seen it in the, in the,
[SPEAKER_03]: fleets coming back from the dead, basically, is such a huge deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've done, I don't think they fought anybody worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Venternas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ternas always are fighting when they want to fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the problem of the Ternas is they're just so like a tomaton in the way that they fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just they're just coming for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no strategy to they're just we've never we don't go to that we're starting to Well, and here's the irony now that you said something there and made me throw the irony the irony of all this is this the Imperium is built to doozy no side
[SPEAKER_01]: their purpose is every in all Zeno's must be killed from the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only way to stop tyrannids is to kill every last one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there are more tyrannids than the imperium has bullets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing is, is that they, again, we always, we're starting to between trade and Gilliman, they're starting to take the fight to them.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we haven't went to the tyrannets.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've always got ready for the tyrannets to come to us.
[SPEAKER_01]: We stand up and we try to counter it.
[SPEAKER_01]: My hope is that my hope is that this is hard core fanboy stuff here, but I'm hoping that we kind of see a change in the lore where all the bureaucracy of the imperms starts to go away because we're seeing this now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our trade is cutting the red tape and maybe we start seeing some successes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Imperium's able to actually just dered tape themselves and start to actually debate.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to end this cast on a making John Andrew, you know, who is really going to cut through the red tape, leaving Russ.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, the great wolf.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I know why you're saying it and it's exciting that exciting, but I'm just going with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be killing him because he's going to be the one who wrote the red tape.
[SPEAKER_01]: True.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, Lehman Russell, they're like, there's too much red tape, but Lehman Russell gets stuck in the red tape.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he would do.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's like, I have, I own a factory that makes red tape.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you'll just go, I'm just going to delete the red tape.
[SPEAKER_01]: We Lehman, why are you punching the red tape?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's not that Lehman, Lehman, Russell is,
[SPEAKER_01]: The Zoolander, tactical genius.
[SPEAKER_01]: The files are in their computer, like leave us, well, leaving us would actually believe the red tape is a real thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would try to find the planet that makes a red tape and attack that planet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that would be a fight that I'd like to remove.
[SPEAKER_03]: That would be a space to invade the planet that makes red tape.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like the people making the red tape, like it's for parades.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you mad?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we hope you guys enjoyed this coverage.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was actually a very fun one to research and write about.
[SPEAKER_01]: So our love of tyrannids always mind, Brad likes them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually do like the tyrannids.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, next week we're going to take a turn and we're going to focus on the Imperial Guard.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you guys know how fun the Imperial Guard can be from a lore perspective.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do not.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never been, you like them as in the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the game, I'm like, man, I'm about playing them.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as far as I like playing them, it's just, it's really easy to run an artillery line.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so if you just want to go to an event and drink and not have to be very much, you just put a bunch of artillery up and say, yeah, that I'm shooting that thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like when you look at the,
[SPEAKER_03]: There's probably more lore than anyone else.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's maybe space screens.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm back and forth.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's so much lore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so there's more, it depends what your sources are.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more Codex lore on Space Marine.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more Black Library lore on PyroGrapher.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the way it becomes those things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Gonskos books are significantly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Horace Harris, he's three, but Horace Harris, he's not really Space Marine lore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Horace Harris, he's just history lore.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you got the death corporate crey.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and to be fair, as we're going to cover next week, the next few weeks, they mildly outnumber the space marine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we might want to have a bit more lore on them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're also easier identify with the person who's kind of like us versus the mutant that is full of organs that don't work in place.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're fighting, which I noticed they brought back in the books and the guards.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, but until next week, this has been John Barzati and Brad Jester, this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening.
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