[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Forty K-Lorecast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Forty Key, Laura cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me John Barsati and Brad Chester.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy had changed up.
[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't just edit that in copy and paste every up to one.
[SPEAKER_02]: John did say he was going to replace me completely with AI.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm trying to change things up occasionally.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not instantly gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: If all of a sudden Brad's sounds like an ambassador, it's because he couldn't make it one day, and I just decided to use an AI for his voice.
[SPEAKER_01]: On today's episode, we're going to finish our coverage of the events of the Horace Harris that fall between Isthon five and the invasion of soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today, we're really focused on the adage that chaos is inherently chaotic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds lame, but it's a good way to describe it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it is because of the fact that right now, if you would look at it from just a planet, if you're on the war map right now, and I'm such a dork about this one, thinking about every movie you've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every video game.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I'm looking at the table, the shuffle board pushing the hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cass is set up for a pretty easy win to be perfectly honest with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, you aligned with the forces of chaos, not the forces of excellent planning.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as much as chaos hates Amber, who else they hate Brad?
[SPEAKER_01]: They hate so much more other chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're discussing how it happens when you let chaos run with chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Brad, I think we start off with the thousands of sons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this a tragic story or is this just one that makes you mad?
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause I don't know, maybe the primarx a little bit too emo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because madness is now a demon prints and for those of just quick recap, they decided to after just getting their ass beat by the space wolves to which he gave up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't even try.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, he did not even as much as a space for a former as I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, leaving Russ.
[SPEAKER_02]: beat up a guy that wasn't really trying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was kind of one of those, it's like the end of Ali's career fights where you're like, can you stop?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Please don't literally always punch you in the face.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Support non-sports fans.
[SPEAKER_02]: What that's a real.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a real, it's a real thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, thousands of sons are magnificent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even Prince, his legion has given their entire soul's design.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to cover this in another episode about all his dust and.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not sort of a lot of things going on because we had a lot of mutations because in doing that, Zeech, no one literally, if you've ever watched a, I wished for something and it went wrong, Zeech was right there the entire time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for those of you who are maybe a newer to this, if you've ever heard the, the cause of a monkey paw, where you know, it's a monkey paw wishes, that really is Zeech, Zeech is a monkey paw where he will constantly give you a very literal translation of what you're asking for, but well, they can capitalize on the pieces you're not asking.
[SPEAKER_01]: hundred percent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he did zinc save all the people on Prospero?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's also like he took all their souls and their human bodies and they are forever sleeping.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and also he semi-pulled your planet into the I have terror and it's also not in the I have terror because why not screw with you?
[SPEAKER_01]: Zeech isn't real, but I'm just going to tell you guys, if you're going to make a deal with a demon ever, really go to town your footnotes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, make sure in that contract, you have really, you should all the footnotes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should get Johnny Carter to help you out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're going to be hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to make sure we've got all the T.U.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: cross and eyes dotted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you need some luck.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in from, for some shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the thousand sons have made a shitty deal with the devil, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Magnus, who still, you know what, screw you guys?
[SPEAKER_02]: Magnus did nothing wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he did everything wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not just screwing this, it's fine, but I'm just going with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on now.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying, Ringo.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to be some better guy in the worst ways possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: He still does it wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a little pouty, meaning he's a lot of pouty.
[SPEAKER_01]: How about that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the Legion is in weirdly disarray.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got a big, big, if you've got a chasm between Magnus, who is pulled back at this point in time, Magnus is effectively erecting the tower.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the, be basically makes a planet sized tower eventually, but right now, Araman is trying, but full on air quotes, tries
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll go and we will definitely do another episode this because I love Eramun, except for the fact that the Harley Quinn's clown in all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clown, see.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the thing about that the thousand sons with this is, Eramun's trying to fix the legion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Magnus is kind of pouting about the legion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And accepting coming to terms with the fact that he is now a demon friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: A demon friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is really what's going on is he's on his tower.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in really if he makes the tower by just again because it's in the warp.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just thinks about a tower.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he gets a tower exactly and it comes into being.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is, is that the rest of the legion, well, eventually they have no choice, but we'll talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the sources are just stuff are very conflicted, but they're just kind of going with
[SPEAKER_01]: Aremai will say when else sold their souls.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a weird deal to be like, I mean, because we think about it, you should you should sell your own soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: But with these guys with a thousand sons, their soul was kind of sold for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now that's a big thing, we got to go back on because we've talked about a little bit with the primarks in the fact that they're the sons, the marines of the sons of each primar.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're not just the sons.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are psychically connected.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are infused.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're genetically predisposed to follow that person.
[SPEAKER_02]: So not only are they psychically connected, which is why effectively when he signed the dotted line, they got, they were like, hey man, remember when dad sold their souls?
[SPEAKER_02]: And apparently I just was also a part of this deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they kind of also are
[SPEAKER_02]: Genetically predisposed to go oh well I guess dad sold my soul.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess I'm over here now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so so they have like a lot of conflicting on this and the thing is is that
[SPEAKER_02]: to be perfectly honest.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a ton of dudes laugh.
[SPEAKER_02]: The space wolves.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem is it at the point where they pulled the trigger and jumped into the war.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were getting space wolves or just rickers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Prosperos done done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and so they're kind of an weird boat where there are the thousands sounds are one of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: Super powerful.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say legions individually.
[SPEAKER_01]: So even though they're small and number, they can have a lot of effect, but they are very much so small and number.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is also when the couple all started.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is when they started breaking down, and people that play Forty K. Caballs are one of the things that they get as powers.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the reason that they're really good in the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the lore, they started the couple all system.
[SPEAKER_02]: They already had it a little bit lost.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they really break down into
[SPEAKER_02]: small groups of sorcerers focused together to increase their power and the entire legion becomes these could be as usual cast.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you got together, you could do anything you want it, but they are definitely not getting together.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a bunch of disparate cabals inside the thousand sons of different sorcerers and they are kind of all separate.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they all hate their brother for being slightly more powerful or slightly better at this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course they do the, I just met you at the dinner party and we're not, we're gonna pretend that we're not epicing enemies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm so happy that you know how to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say to it's kind of the theme of the episode is that this is, they are beholden to the God of being just chaos and deception.
[SPEAKER_01]: So surprise, surprise.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they embrace this cause and levels of chaos and deception.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the thousands of sons, they're in quite a bit of a issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've got their prime mark as a little bit lost mentally.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've lost the majority of their legion and they're trying to just figure out what they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, they're stuck with their souls being given over to and living in the war with the God of deception.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not, the neighborhood value is not great, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just like great situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, the thing is, is that I think they actually, the worst place, and we're going to some of the other leads in the fall of the cast, is the thousand sons understand.
[SPEAKER_02]: what they're playing more than the other legions do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have a lot of people that, a lot of people are in the dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something bad is happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thousand sons are fully aware of everything that's going down with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's actually kind of a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they know that they're, hey, so I'm eternally damned in under the influence.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I'm not going to die either.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just,
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually, that's a great, I hadn't thought, but that's a great point that if one else, they feel the corruption of chaos, and it's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's probably more the positive, like, you know, if you're corrupted by Z, it's like, ooh, I find this stuff fun or corn, actually, both of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Nurgle just gets a warm feeling as your grandfather Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as you're just decaying, but you're right, the thousand-sons actually know, they understand.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're fully alert as to what's going on, and they're powerlessness to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're literally in view, they're the most powerful they've ever been and the most powerless they've ever been.
[SPEAKER_02]: Full loss of her brads on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the joys I do get is, if you guys don't want to do the editing of this episode, I get to take ten minutes of Brad's speech and just go, nah, I just remove it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I just joy and spike.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was making good point here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to have to remove it because it's just funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: So from them, we'll move on to deathguard.
[SPEAKER_01]: So deathguard are actually probably still very much singular in purpose.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are also deathguard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mortarian made real mistakes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Typhus is a huge deck at this certain time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Typhus fully embraced everything about the plague and become became
[SPEAKER_02]: the arguably, you know, I'm saying it out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is definitely the favorite son of Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, Typhus is way more interesting, you know, Martyrian's angry Typhus just loves being Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Martyrian is literally going, I made some bad deals and Typhus is like, you made some great deals and I made more of them while you weren't, look, well, and I think this is kind of interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Martyrians are weird characters because again, like we did this before.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't fall to chaos because he wants to be part of chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: He actually has hated the emperor for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, since the beginning, but Morterians also kind of adult in the sense that like, he comes over kind of, yeah, well, I'm sorry, Deathguard, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Morterians and idiots.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's very good at killing, and that's the extent.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the toughest dude in the universe.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: and a box of rocks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but man.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he, and he has this interesting epiphany because he tries to convince Jagatakan, at least once in that twice to come over.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, basically he has his moment where like no one's with him except for the guys who were all psychopaths.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then he finally comes this realization that maybe actually there's a but chaos is
[SPEAKER_01]: And, all right, let's go to Tarathilian.
[SPEAKER_01]: God, I think this name's Tarathilian.
[SPEAKER_01]: To go and figure out, like, hey, what is chaos?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is this thing that I'm kind of moving towards?
[SPEAKER_01]: Good point.
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been corrupted yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just, he's on the side of chaos, but Nergal hasn't infused him yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes to this world called Turthillion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Turthillion is a library world.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, you know, hey, if you want to look up answers, go to the library.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, those of you under the age of thirty, libraries are these things that people like Brad and I has to, that you have to go to to look who are card system.
[SPEAKER_01]: But to find a book that then read the book, the, the internet's way better.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're also the internet is on a planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, the library is the planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is the sole reason that this planet exists is to catalog knowledge.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he gets there and just decides for whatever reason, I all feel like checking out a book at the library.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to kill everyone here because that's the thing I'm best at.
[SPEAKER_02]: Eventually, he goes for knowledge and murders the people that have the knowledge.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'm saying he's adult.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know this, unfortunately, everyone, I've read this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when I actually read this the first time, I actually got mad about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guy goes to on a quest to find knowledge.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: As a D&D guy, this is like me running a campaign.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my players killing every NPC they meet.
[SPEAKER_02]: As they try to give them information, this is what type of folks are in the information.
[SPEAKER_01]: But before they can, the information tells them all.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, eventually, what a Markarian finds the one woman who's actually kind of a demon and brings her back to her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so is she.
[SPEAKER_02]: The woman standing on the acts with an animal.
[SPEAKER_02]: They literally loony to and trap.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, this is not a trap.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says trap.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's an ex on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm refusing to accept it's a trap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take, of course, takes it to his flagship.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't interrogate her at the library.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just brings her right back to his house.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where you would do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He actually interrogates her.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is rude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she informs him that he has been claimed by normal, which in again, if it's more tearing and this is also, this is really bad news because more tearing
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to, I mean, that let's jump back a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the primarks are all as babies in incubators are sent all over the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Markarian awakens on a poison world.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is who he thinks he is with literally tyrants that live where you're not allowed to go because you'll die.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where he grows up to.
[SPEAKER_01]: He thinks he's one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then after
[SPEAKER_02]: the emperor rise emperor tells him no you're actually part of me and now he's being told no actually he's part of knurgo so but also it's whole history everybody that's interacted with him also gives him no choice because the emperor goes oh you remember the guys that you defeated oh I don't care and he leaves and just goes it'll probably not go back to the exact same way that it was before you left it in one hundred percent we're back to the same way
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the thing about Mord Terrain is that as you read stories about Mord Terrain, you're always the one thing Mord Terrain really hates is a lack of choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: He likes to feel like he wants to feel he's in control of his death.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is actually a theme amongst other primarcs as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously Conrad grew as the big part of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think even saying when he has a bunch, he's guys do have these elements where they want to feel that they have free will.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the free will.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mord Terrain discovers he doesn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: And an interesting thing happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mord Terrain, another little psycho to him, is not a huge fan of psychers.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what is mortarian, Brad?
[SPEAKER_01]: Super powerful psychers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like not quite magnets, but not too far off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hate himself pretty bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then uses sense of powers to kill the demon with his blows.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't kill her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She blows off.
[SPEAKER_01]: time for mortarian.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you want to call it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mark for where he realizes that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, this warp thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just doubles down.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for this is actually weird in the in the Lord because he goes from.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate all slackers to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm totally in the in the cycle.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, what happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: You killed us.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was four.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was Magnus two point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm Madness.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was why you're in a real.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was more Terry and two.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm met more Terry and three point off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you bringing up old shit?
[SPEAKER_02]: That was yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's exactly why you're bringing them all to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were discussing earlier, Typhus.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think now is a good time to kind of dive into
[SPEAKER_02]: The entire time all of this is going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Typhus has been working back room deals with Nurgle or heralds of Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know if he's talking directly to Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's talking to avatars, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Typhus is literally what I'm all in immediately.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me power.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will worship you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will be the herald and the whole time he's
[SPEAKER_02]: all in on screwing over my cherry on.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, like we talk a lot about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says have a love for their prime mark.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a few guys here in there, though, who do not at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would say I think it's Typhus, Erebus, Eremon, probably later in his career.
[SPEAKER_02]: Eremon later, it just doesn't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's in these guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: These, as they end up working almost against their.
[SPEAKER_02]: Typhus is all in immediately on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is, he's trying to be
[SPEAKER_02]: for profit, the icon, you have a time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, man, if he any sense multiple times, effectively, and this is an all-canon, this is a lot of short stories of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, effectively, if you give me an apparel, I'll stab or tear in right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, give me the power.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't want to be your heroine, your avatar.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be and let me be it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So eventually, Typhus sees his moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then his moment is more carrying turns the fleet towards Earth.
[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, as you guys these stories, everyone is told pretty early on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, get to Earth, get the solid thing out.
[SPEAKER_02]: type of, sorry, where Terry was told to get to earth immediately.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And literally don't do anything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, when you said don't do anything else, I'm going to do everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I have stuff to do like a laundry position and I will defend more Terry here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chuck, they kind of did the exact same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So did like the quite a few of the.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, all of my least favorite primaries.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every primark went like, yeah, these are all the mid tier guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I should do this, but maybe I should drive aimlessly around the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what if I just want to run a bunch of errands in the way, like it just seems fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, but as we're about to enter the work, Typhus decides this is his opportunity.
[SPEAKER_01]: So his plan, and I actually be honest, it's pretty good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is he tells everyone that the navigators that they're using it towards Earth are actually all secretly in contact with Malkador.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the solution here is to kill them all.
[SPEAKER_01]: So without anyone asking a second question, they kill all of their navigators.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad, walk me through, nodding in the warp towards Earth without a navigate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm seems legit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean literally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes you have a zero in one billion, you have a better chance of winning a lot of twice and getting struck by lightning in your basement while holding the tickets than getting through the warp.
[SPEAKER_02]: with no navigators at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they're just in the warp and we've discussed before time the warp is a little bit weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can be forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it can be forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can be a quarter second, it can be whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what Nurgled does.
[SPEAKER_01]: So while they're just kind of left.
[SPEAKER_01]: floating aimlessly in the warp.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nurgle goes, cool, no barriers here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess I'm gonna go ahead and take all of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he infects everyone with the worst plague of all time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as he's infecting everyone, I don't know, maybe someone makes another, remember when we said, get Johnny Cocker, get a, get a goddamn lawyer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you say, if you can make me the stop, I will follow you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You shouldn't assign on the dotted line.
[SPEAKER_02]: When the answer was, you won't die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look for more details.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is where Mortarian finally gives in that this plague is eating his legion.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's eating him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's eating him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's eating.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does still run primarck down.
[SPEAKER_01]: While some soldiers can get themselves over in Nurgle, that's not what Nurgle wants.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nurgle wants the whole Legion.
[SPEAKER_01]: So more Terran is just being burrated by Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just come to me, join me and I will make this stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: So finally, Mertarian does this and he pledges his Legion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nurgle said that
[SPEAKER_02]: Mortarian, you and your legion will not die.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you give yourself to him, and he, when her girl was true to his work, grandfather doesn't lie to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did not give away the plague, kept them with the plague.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are eternally suffering.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they can now, but they won't drive from it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And more carrying at this point turns into a demon prince.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that and we'll cover more in this later, but just so for the record, we now have three demon princes on chaos side.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're about to talk about another one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So and this one's best model that's not in forty k yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now I will say this story is a little bit loopy so I apologize if we if it feels a little disjointed, but it's this is like but it's also like a hundred years of stuff wrapped in them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do the quick hits initially.
[SPEAKER_01]: So to remind everyone, Fulgram is kind of possessed kind of in prison.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was fighting Ferris Madness, holding a demon sword, cut Ferris's head off with the demon sword or the demon sword cut Ferris's head off, whichever way you want to look at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And instantly when it happened, Fulgram is trapped inside his own body to which he says he's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Later on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no, he
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, he totally was possessed.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was possessed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is where some of these stories get a little bit funny because Fullroom was possessed comes.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is post-ist fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Five comes wandering into doors of ship and is just kind of being weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it's a medially horrible stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a stay.
[SPEAKER_01]: He sees his WordPress.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but who does see what's up and get super upset?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was the guy who was super upset about the possession, which I'm as little as jealousy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just my opinion.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, Lorgar freaks out.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is kind of where we get our first glimpse into Horace, the level of Horace's corruption, because as private saying, Horace knew instantly that Fulgram was possessed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horses wildly powerful, but horses isn't just wildly powerful with strength and austerity and constitution.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horses infused with understanding.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the biggest draws for Horses to be into chaos is
[SPEAKER_02]: They keep giving him knowledge, understanding wisdom.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are the wisest.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is why you are better than your father.
[SPEAKER_02]: You understand what's happening in the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your plan is the best plan because you're so smart, so wise.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can see the truth about people.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has the actual ability to see
[SPEAKER_02]: into the war.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has, he's wildly intelligent.
[SPEAKER_02]: He already was, but he's literally infusing every life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Powerful now.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so Horace sees this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's interesting about this story, it was kind of a quick hit on this, but Lurgar notices that something's wrong with Fogrum and Lurgar attacks a Fogrum.
[SPEAKER_01]: And starts actually beating up Fogrum.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for any of you who know any of the lore, Lurgar was the shittiest fighter of all of the primaries.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the fact that Fogrum is currently at odds with himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in the things, but also he's not the primar.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a demon prince and we're going to say he's a primar.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a primar because we're powerful than a random demon demon.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's able to beat the crap out of him and everyone kind of says, this is full of full of, what's full of.
[SPEAKER_01]: So chorus has to get involved and actually separates them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is just an interesting moment where it's the rather than let
[SPEAKER_01]: Lord, our beat-up, the demon who has possessed and taken control of his brother, Horus goes, no, no, it's school.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're good.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_01]: From there, we're going to jump into kind of removing the possession, not moving the possession.
[SPEAKER_02]: It becomes really weird because Lucius, well, Lucius, the eternal, the unbeatable swordsmen, they got to be like six times in the books, but whatever we're all talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he effectively knows that his primarck is less than used to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: And because again, chaos, Lucius doesn't give a shit about the possession.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives a shit about the fact that his primar isn't as strong, isn't as perfect, isn't the, the pinnacle of what he was before.
[SPEAKER_02]: And because of that, it's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it'd be fine if you were possessed and you were better.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, well, so now I have to go deal with this possession.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when you're in the the Emperor's children, you go and you find your great buddy Fabius bottle.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is such a great story because you know, let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fabius pile and you're like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that guy's weird, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like dark L.R.
[SPEAKER_02]: think that family.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I'm going to be like, dude, the dark outer meat type is violent go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa, like, pull it back a little bit, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, there's limits and you are well beyond it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, and this is how you know the full game is not full game because we did really a trio of red shirts plus
[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's literally no random dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just grab phlegrum and just jack him up and you're like, yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: This would never happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: You would all be instant dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have accidentally killed you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't even mean to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just would have killed you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're wearing a wrencher.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you just died.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the kid in the tithabius file, who's great plan is I know how to get a demon possession.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna torture it until the demon leaves.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone goes, yeah, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where this story just gets a little bit weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is such trash, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, I'm letting you do this one because I just refuse to believe any of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, full room just pops out, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not making this up, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fulgram pops out and just says, bro, I was in charge all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just trying to figure out the ways of chaos and how things happened and I was getting the information.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, so you weren't totally possessed and imprisoned inside the sword.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We weren't sure losing sword fights to like, Eric?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, it was, it was a ruse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything was, it was, it was a really colossal ruse.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they do this thing where they basically did a constant teen where they jammed a demon into, I'm gonna look at your ratings, a painting, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, it was a mirror now because that's what happened in constant table, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to think you mix it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're thinking of constantly not ghost busters too.
[SPEAKER_01]: important evidence than a difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Ghostbusters, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like he just pretends that he was fine the whole time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, I would have been good.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, it feels like you were totally possessed and not in control.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he's just like, no, I was never the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the stories, they just kind of roll with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I claim BS on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've tried.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with Brad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was there's no way this is accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I pulled the books.
[SPEAKER_01]: I pulled the codexes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, apparently it's a story.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is where this story gets to be kind of funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Fulgram has now was possessed was not possessed is possessed, who cares?
[SPEAKER_01]: They saved him from his possession.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Fulgram has now decided that the best solution for Fulgram
[SPEAKER_01]: is to go be the greatest version of himself that ever could be by infusing himself with the most amount of chaos he possibly could out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, this might something weird story, but we have to tell you the story because there's some linearness to this and it gets us in the next story here, which is the Iron Warriors.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so
[SPEAKER_01]: Quick recap of the iron warriors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are the iron warriors in the side of the traders?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they want to punch Robledorn right in this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do not care.
[SPEAKER_02]: They actually don't have a pretty robber literally denies all of the chaos powers multiple times.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just goes, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to be on the other side of Robledorn.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it was almost tragic that he is the only non kind of possessed guy surrounded by good possessed people because he just really wanted to punch Robledorn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Folgrim added nowhere appears to Petrovans as, hey, I've got a great way to make the iron warriors more perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if anyone says anyway to make it perfect, it is Folgrim's a guy you want to listen, because he's obsessed with perfection.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's much we can share talking.
[SPEAKER_01]: His legion really was amazing because they were, they strived for perfection.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Pettarabo has kind of a history of failing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you go to him, say, Hey, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you'll never lose.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll never fail.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can actually be number one, because a much of a pair of white hit, Rugal Doran.
[SPEAKER_01]: He also was afraid of Rugal Doran.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he also had to go back.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is also five hundred years into
[SPEAKER_02]: you're almost as good as six to eight of your brothers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just like, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you're cool as those guys, like one brother, no, like most of your brothers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'll say all the cool ones, but you're right below that tier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you're at the top of the trash.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Screw you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna be that tier.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he goes and says, hey, got this plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: All you have to do is come with me into the eye of terror.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna capture a special weapon.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called the Angel exterminatus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm gonna keep on this footnotes.
[SPEAKER_01]: GW names things the way a six-year-old names a white saber.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even better, they completely jack up another culture and name everything after.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's also that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're their interpretation of Latin.
[SPEAKER_01]: It annoys me a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm old enough to have learned Latin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so they decided to go to this world, which.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's an older crowder involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to an elder Chrome world within this system.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, there's a ship called the Sissaf View.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is made up of space and means you're survived.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun, five, Brad.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what is their viewpoint on the traders?
[SPEAKER_02]: I will punch you right in the throne.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't get used to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody on the ship is already.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're in their mind, they're already dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just want to take
[SPEAKER_02]: their pound of flesh, they want to get revenge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every one of these people, but it's some of them, it's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they all think that their prime actually does.
[SPEAKER_01]: And killed by these people that they're going to they're pursuing to go harm.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is going to come up in a second, but when it comes to the stage, there is a group of space Marines who are pursuing full-groom and pederabo into the eye of terror to go to this suicide mission.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is what I called Idris.
[SPEAKER_01]: Idris Idris.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one knows Idris album.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Idris.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they reach a Crohn Zoo.
[SPEAKER_01]: full-groomed petarobo land on this elder world, which is, and I put in quotations vacant.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing there, but there's a bunch of structures.
[SPEAKER_02]: I right now, in the notes, I need to tell everybody that every episode, John, we go through an outline, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: And every single episode, there's at least once, usually more, that John puts in something that's only there to piss me off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're about to get, we're about to get to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the land of the planet and Pettarabo is trying to be the siege master that he is and he starts, he starts fortifying his position on this, on this vacant world.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't fortify all of it, just partially.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what's my, what's my note, Brad?
[SPEAKER_01]: sadness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Role-dorn would have done it better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the problem is, is in this point, you're not wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Role-dorn's siege master is not the fortification master.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't meet you over the fortification.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like I'm back at the Burnham in a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: So as they move towards this inner sanctum of this world, the elder that are left there, who are
[SPEAKER_02]: Super, not okay with Slonass.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I noticed that, hey, this guy, full room and his legion, who are pretty heavily tied into the God we created and ended our civilization, who's also actively pursuing our immortal soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just showed up and this side, and we're gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, Brad explained it when what Rayth Constructs are, but they wake up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, rave constructs are the fighting machines, the dreadnots, but we got damn better.
[SPEAKER_01]: And how good are rave constructs had fighting?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're pretty goddamn resilient.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, let's talk about their weapon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Most of the reef constructs are architected with weapons called D weapons, which open up portals into not here and blast you with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, also they put part of you in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So basically they go, hey, a two foot by two foot circle.
[SPEAKER_02]: of your body just went to the war.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're still here, but uh, you know, that uh, that circle that that circle that you kind of probably cared about quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're like, hey, man, remember the time in the middle of my body didn't exist in this realm.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not great.
[SPEAKER_01]: So full-groom and petarabbo are under attack now again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Petarabbo could have built better defenses for this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which by the way, this is something that they never encountered.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they'd never seen this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The rate contracts are new.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are just getting blasted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fun story, though, is that this phlegrum, you know, Petarabo and the iron mortars begin fighting the rate contracts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the impression didn't do, but phlegrum couldn't care less about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: His phlegrum had a side plan here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he also has a side plan that works because of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Weirdly, his plan would not have worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: if things would have went well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because Fulgram would have been prepared.
[SPEAKER_01]: So before they came down there, Fulgram gives Petarabo a gift.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, who takes a gift from a dude as weird as Fogra, like it's like, or at least more important, don't put it on.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he gives him a cloak with little stones.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's so creepy by now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's this thing, it's just a guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, no, this stone, no, that he gives the petorobo actually wasn't a decorative stone, because why would it be?
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, it's sapping the life energy at a petorobo.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally draining his soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pulling his soul into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, so it's gift ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, has no idea other than that that that Fogram kind of looks weird to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing bad and nowhere, if they're standing there, they're getting attacked by these rate constructs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's screaming, trying to get control.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's Fogram do?
[SPEAKER_01]: He attacks Petarabo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because why not?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he needs to kill him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Petarabo, rather surprisingly,
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't fight super not cool of it, but also didn't notice for some unknown read.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I'd be way cooler than I had worries if this didn't have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's like this is one of my first stories that I read about the eyewares.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I really like you guys because you tool up my least favorite legion of the pair of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they do later on later.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're getting into this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we will do an episode on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: But
[SPEAKER_02]: The fact is, this is one of the first stories I read, and for some unknown reason, the guy that's supposed to see next level, next step, because he's the siege guy, he planned so far ahead, literally didn't notice that him and everyone around him.
[SPEAKER_02]: was being so sucked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, by the guy, literally next to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And all of his energy is gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: So at this point, Folgrim though does do the bad guy monologue and explains that, yeah, I'm sucking your energy out into this, into this stone and then I'm going to combine your energy with my energy and I'm going to become the most powerful being in the whole world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Pettarabo goes, no, and decides just a kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: throw the stone that was that was taking his energy away from him like that would do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as we said, the wreath, the wreath construct attack helped fold room.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the loyalist of this attack helps petarabbo.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it doesn't help him.
[SPEAKER_02]: It literally makes it so he doesn't get forever destroyed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a big thing on this because full grims plan wasn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am going to defeat Pertarabbo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fullroom's plan was, I'm going to make you not exist in time or spit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was going to take his warp essence.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, he's a turtle soul and he was going to have no ill will or petarabbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just petarabbo was a means to find becoming the most powerful
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he wasn't just, it wasn't a kill.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can come back from a kill.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't come back from, I'm going to absorb the literal essence of your being into myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why you wanted to be comparable with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's a big thing in the story that's a difference.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a, it's so much more severe than I'm trying to, I'm going to kill you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can come back from a kill in Forty Kay, kind of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It depends on how thick your plot is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you can't come back from, hey man, I devoured the essence of your being, your war essence, your soul, whatever you want to call it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is what he was looking for.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how he was looking to power up.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't looking to, I want to defeat you.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was looking to be, I want to consume your essence.
[SPEAKER_01]: My theory when I read this was that
[SPEAKER_01]: Petarabbo was just someone fed Fulgram realized he couldn't manipulate, so he did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Fulgram manipulate him so that he could teach me a primar.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have to be Petarabbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did the a primar.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Mortarian wasn't going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Magnus wasn't going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely not Lordgar Horace right out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so he's kind of was like, hey, who's going to just who would follow me into the eye of terror for apparently no reason?
[SPEAKER_01]: at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Petarob was kind of an idiot.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's grab him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He literally gave him piece of candy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting his candy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what happens is during during this fight, Petarob throws the stone and it's just sitting there and the oil is intact.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a random oil is this is trash.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's just one of these fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, but it is basically not basically a loyalist sees the stone and shoots the stone, which blows up the stone.
[SPEAKER_02]: which is, by the way, the stones apparently made of cheap glass.
[SPEAKER_01]: It could absorb all the power of a primarke, but if you shoot with a bolt or it explodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, literally a bolt around blows it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So pet hold on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Blue, who on you, sir?
[SPEAKER_01]: The stone explodes and all of the energies that an absorb goes back to where it came from.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, that's how that would work.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Peteroblo just kind of, you know, resurrects off the floor and begins this with that piss out of full.
[SPEAKER_02]: Follow him literally, Obi-Wan's him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, one thousand percent, I'll be once, I'm just hands down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, you've won.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like huge air quotes, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Fulgram is killed by Petarabo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, kill sort of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I cannot put enough quotations around kill.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you lean into the blow,
[SPEAKER_02]: and instantly give the reborn as the coolest model in forty-k, which is a forearms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he splits in that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's such a cool thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the one part.
[SPEAKER_01]: This story is kind of dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's up for this bit here where he splits in half.
[SPEAKER_01]: The story is super dumb.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He splits in half and then reforms as a giant purple forearms snake with this is why I want to stand in navy and hair metal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but oh, you gotta forget the phone games like literally the prettiest person you've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Beautiful what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so those of you who haven't just Google Fuller model and you'll see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've made one now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have one just not a forty guys for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's for thirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Show your face.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because in the reveal, they did not say it was for thirty-k.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just put them on a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Screw you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chew.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have been awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a full-groom.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then at the same time, because full-groom really is just kind of a glass here.
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as he achieves this ascension, he's been looking for, he teleposes out.
[SPEAKER_01]: This dooses out in the middle of a fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: He will fight through now you've got
[SPEAKER_01]: Iron warriors, rate of constructs.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, this is rate of constructs.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of all the rate of constructs.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is a lot of rate of constructs.
[SPEAKER_01]: And random assorties, all just kind of shooting at each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Pettarabos there like, oh, and then the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I forgot this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually, it's funny because I, I surprised myself because I look at the notes later in a lot of times.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I forgot about this because you're like, hey, he basically did the whole
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, shit can't get any worse than this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, well, shouldn't change yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: What if everyone's fighting you and the place they're fighting you're on is imploding into a black hole?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, for why reasons for the reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Penarabo jumps back to his ship and they try to believe orbit.
[SPEAKER_01]: But now there's a black hole behind them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had to get Pettarabbo credit.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a policy really kind of cool, where he just says, my legion always moves forward, never back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he turns his ships around and launches himself into the black hole.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just for recap, cues Disney movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fullroom is now a demon prince.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pettarabbo has now disappeared into a black hole.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, this is not what Horace told people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Horace, by the way, told both these guys to go to go to meet up on Mars, which we'll get to in a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hey, guys, I'm just recapping the plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: you did think steps A through Z and none of those were what I said.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's my wrong alphabet.
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys jump to a Cyrilic alphabet at this stage here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a backwards E?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: From there, we'll jump over to one of the last of the falls, which is the world leaders.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angron has no big plans.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angron just gets distracted by shiny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Angron is with Lorgar and they're fighting the Ultramanes we've covered in the last episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: But during this campaign, Lorgar realizes something's off with Angron.
[SPEAKER_01]: More than just off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, Angron's nuts.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he realized that Angron is actually die.
[SPEAKER_01]: These butchers nails, these skulls are
[SPEAKER_02]: The back up though, Angron is not a demon, friends right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, Angron is just a prime market.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is dying.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the issue to lower guard decides that they need to pull, because lower guard is a weird character work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it seems like some of the other prime marks he liked a lot and others, he did not, but he liked Angron for whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a weird kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, lower guard is just a
[SPEAKER_02]: like most likely to do bad things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Randomly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lord guard decides the best thing to do for Angron is take him back to his home world in quotes of New Serbia.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where they put the butcher's nails in his head.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll go there and they're going to make the people take the butcher's nails out of his head or at least fix it.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they have no ability, nor desire.
[SPEAKER_02]: And to make things worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, they talk mad shit when they come down.
[SPEAKER_01]: One little piece about this is that Angron, when the Emperor took him from New Syria, left him hanging like nobody's business.
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, told him, don't worry about all your friends there, it'll be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he literally left him, hey, you're in the middle of a Spartacus rebellion.
[SPEAKER_02]: I may or may not be doing my last stand.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the ever went, yeah, this looks stupid and grabbed Angron and just do style.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just went, yeah, your friends probably maybe they survived.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Turns out when you went, Angron gets back to New Sarah.
[SPEAKER_01]: How does friends do, Brad?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they all died.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, wait a second, carry the one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely zero people survive that he knew.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every single person that he was friends with, not only got killed, got mercilessly tortured and killed, and put as an example, by the way, for the rest of the populist.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, not your friends didn't just die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your friends got tortured, killed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, they literally put them up on posts to go, don't do this shit anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is everyone you've ever known.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, cared about.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the only friends you only true friends that you've ever had.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're all dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like not just dead dead, like displayed, like you are now on my kitchen table.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're, you're my trophy of how dead you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm gone just loses.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not super happy about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But to make things more fun as we discuss a prior episodes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lord Garn is buddies, decided to surprise Gilliman with surprise attack.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Gilliman decides that wasn't cool and has been following them the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So while Angron kind of wanders off on his anger party.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you ever think the Bobby G is like, he's probably going to band back from the weight of all the plot armor that's on him?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying like it's gotta be heavy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Ultra Marines decide to attack the word bear.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but he just survives in a moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gilman, Gilman's master thing is what's the, what's the latest moment I can arrive and still be on time?
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: But also he literally isn't a fight with double primarx.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm skipping ahead a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're literally on a mountain in a summoning circle.
[SPEAKER_02]: because Lord Gar, for whatever reason, because sometimes he does semi-cool shit, figures out that angrons just get a die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I forgot to mention the angron decides that this entire planet has to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ever, not, not.
[SPEAKER_02]: We should have one person there.
[SPEAKER_01]: So angron is discovered all his friends are dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what's his response to this bread?
[SPEAKER_01]: killed the entire plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what I said was way more accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: If everyone on this planet, everyone has plans for us all that the whole my friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am going to literally remove every person from this class.
[SPEAKER_02]: His whole plan is to genocide the planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like, hey, man, I'm killing the squirrels.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm killing the people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's got to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is is that he goes, what do you get a fire spawner planet?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm going to punch him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to pick and they're all gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everyone has to die.
[SPEAKER_01]: At this stage, the ultramarine show up because Gilliman's been following them the entire time and is decided that Lordgar needs to die for what he did for what he did to me back on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't run.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not wrong at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they just begin beating the ever-living crap out of the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we're there's ever-one a fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're blame.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Gilman is just beating the hell out of Lord Gar.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I, Grun, I guess is a word.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, we got a pause now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need to break this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Lord, our main or main out have been an epic supervillain this fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_02]: because Lord Gar already has a so many circle setup.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is already happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bobby G and Lorgar start fighting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lorgar is literally a three foot tall guy with a limp and for a bright mark and he's getting his ass kicked because that's what Lorgar does.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's already set the space.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, also randomly they're fighting on a mountain side.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no reason to throw out.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no fights happening on the mountain side.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just go to the mountain side.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're like, hey, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to fight?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we do it on a mountain?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but there's no fighting going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we would have to like take some serious time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give my backpack.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to hike up the mountain.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a whole problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'll meet you like, like, I don't know, like in six hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll see you there.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're dropping.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can fight right here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really what, like, there's no fighting going on this mountain.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just Lordgar and Bobby G. And in the summoning circle, he's like, again, this is why Bobby G is the best in the worst with the pawn hammer because Bobby G goes to a wildly, this is a trap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't go here and he goes, I'm going to go there by myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we all have our favorites.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually like Gilman a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Gilman didn't as a screw you in your trap.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still think I could be the crap.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a while to the trap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the trap.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm comic, I'm gonna go to your trap and beat the crap out of you in your trap.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he doesn't pummel him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like laugh, like pummeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is again, Bobby G. The problem is Bobby G has the bad guy thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Bobby G has to give Lord G our election.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not the bad guy thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bobby G, what is his superpower?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the ultimate bureaucracy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what I'm explaining to you, this is why I'm beating you with my right hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why you with my left hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is why there's a reason literally a lecture of this is why I beat the shit out of you, which it does by the way, like it's last month.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Angron shows up on a nowhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: Leaps off out of nowhere, more accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of, really, it just goes, nah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And attacks, Gilman, who kill him into the fair actually beats back pretty well.
[SPEAKER_01]: They run it pretty bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, anger at this point in time is also literally losing his mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just killed three million people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's also, well, his arms a little bit tired.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's even just that he also doesn't know where the hell he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's legitimately he's in, if you read it, he literally starts like thinking he's in the past, he's in the press and he's in the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because again, the nails are killing him, but also, oh, I don't know, Laura Mayer, I mean, I've had a ritual circle right over the side and is literally drawing him into it because
[SPEAKER_02]: Laura has a plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Laura has a plan and and Grant is effectively standing in.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to become a demon prince.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to, but I'm about to.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the thing that before and Grant went on his own crusade of kill everybody, he went to other graves of all of his friends and actually collect them and made like
[SPEAKER_01]: We think about like so we're having like a bunch of skulls attached to their body.
[SPEAKER_01]: It should be your enemies, but in angron's case, these are actually his friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so for this is again, I'm going to keep going to you out when they do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a hamlet reference for those of you who are not aware of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is one
[SPEAKER_01]: hundred percent a hamlet reference and I support it because they should like Shakespeare, but this is a Hamlet reference.
[SPEAKER_01]: As Gilliman and Angron are fighting, Gilliman hits him with his sword and his belt of skulls of his buddies fall off of him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, then Bobby Jai forgot about this Bobby Jai.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bobby Jai accidentally stepped up on it on like on his friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: No Sean and and Ron loses his shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right as Lord guard chance the last bits of his ritual, which is point and grung goes from anger on the world's angriest primar.
[SPEAKER_02]: who's also about to die and doesn't know where he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: To and run the demons fraud in Forty Kay, uh, demon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, this is just he is juiced up like nobody's.
[SPEAKER_01]: We hop out of his back.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, like, doubles in size, turns bright red and grind is insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: and kill him in his standing in front of this monstrousity of power to give Jim and credit as usual, he doesn't run away or anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just stands there, but luckily, at this moment, oh, sorry, side note, as Lord Garch is converting angry into a demon prince, and Grons Legion has psychers it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just read like just as I'm looking that we remember this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was for a little little left turn.
[SPEAKER_01]: These psychers because they are again, and grunts, you know, offspring effectively sense something going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably and try to stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Laura Garer's ritual.
[SPEAKER_01]: which the demon prints that and the possessing angron doesn't take kindly to.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he obliterates everyone.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Bobby G gets to run away, not just because Plana armor, because angrons too busy killing the shit out of those psychers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where Gilman escapes with, you know, leading behind Lordgar and angron.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, how does Lord keep getting away?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, don't worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're about to get into Lord God deciding this.
[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lord God has just made his kind of third demon.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's just, he's all over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to give me credit for.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is manipulating shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's incredible for the biggest
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's the, is he, he's the weakest of the primaries.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knew about by far.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just, I felt like I was making that up in first.
[SPEAKER_01]: Combat crew.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he's like spikes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It depends on what we can get heads with, you know, but Lord guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Conrad's either like amazingly large or territory.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're Lord Garwin's a fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's never won anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, by the way, this is bonkers' time to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get in the story, but Lord God decides that Horus is weak and not the right fit to lead this insurrection.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's jealousy.
[SPEAKER_01]: This kind of really brings us to the culmination point of chaos corruption.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lord God is being behind Horus' original corruption.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a thousand.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Arabus is actually the better part of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: True, but it's lower.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's lower.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's lower.
[SPEAKER_01]: It
[SPEAKER_01]: We could dive into a lot of detail about how he tried, all the pieces that he does here, but I'm gonna give you guys kind of the shortened version of it, so we don't just drone on forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Laura needs the feet chorus, and he can't feet chorus himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he decides the best way to do it is to possess Fulburn, who is of the remaining primarx, probably the best fighter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like laughably.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the best fighter.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're talking about being one on one fight, not being psychic, not being planet, not being anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: full-groom, especially in his new form.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also to be fair, to be fair, Lord Art doesn't know the juiced power of that chaos has infused horse with because horse has not
[SPEAKER_02]: ever giving himself at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he wouldn't know how powerful horrors is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So horrors has been infused with horrors is also semi-keeping himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horrors, at least thinks that he is making decisions based on what unless you fight horrors.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't realize how powerful horrors is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he goes to Fulgrammy, finds Fulgram.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fulgram has bowing disappeared ever since screwing over Pettaravo and he finds him where in a slun-eshian temple just having a slun-esh level.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's at a wave.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's at a blood rate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a slun-esh rate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just thought there was said without saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that is the National Wave.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Lorgar, because he's Lorgar, tricks Fogrum into actually giving his soul and control over to a dark apostle, and he's brought with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he, again, a comical trap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just dumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the middle of a crazy bloodthirsty, brave party, whatever they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's very odd.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's, it's effectively a lot of ceremonial bloodletting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, Fulgram actually I hate the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: As a whim, like, he's basically signed here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, yeah, man, like, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives his soul over.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm busy already.
[SPEAKER_02]: I accidentally gave my soul that the guy that was going door to door is asking for full for some.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's how bad it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even a full regret at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, like, I think the demons, like, we can just possess him because we're bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that seems to be my house.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Lord our now has a plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I've got full-gram with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go to have a chat with Horace and then while I'm talking to Horace, I'm going to make full-gram kill him.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, Horace can see your identities.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horace can actually see your intentions, basically.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can see effectively your soul.
[SPEAKER_02]: He can see what you intended due to him, which is a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, the chaos guys did most of the primaries were infused with
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm stronger faster, better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horace wasn't just infused with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Horace was infused with, I'm stronger, faster, better.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm wiser.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm more intelligent, like I was saying before, like they give him extra sight, extra wisdom, because that was the draw, because Horace was already super strong, super fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I'm arguably the best already guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: This doesn't give me anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes, yeah, but we're gonna give you more wisdom.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be you're you're already right.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to help you be more right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Horace actually of course sees this coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Laura sees it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Laura.
[SPEAKER_01]: Springs his trap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Only to discover that Horace knew about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy that instantly published a full room had already been released from his, from his imprisonment for the eleven time for keeping track.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Horace just decides, all right, well, you betrayed me by and beats the ever-living crap out of love are legitimately punches him in the face as he comes onto his bridge and banishes Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, by the way, we were doing this in justice because he effectively, Hulk Loki's him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just grabs him in just front of everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he just, yeah, thunder don't have everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, also talking shit to everybody else on the room.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: He literally, thunder don't slaughter while basically telling everyone else, look at me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I contact.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what happens when you betray me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the biggest thing for Lordgar is he was disrespecting so badly at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, he doesn't kill Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does spare his life and banishes it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because of reasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the month and banishes him to the.
[SPEAKER_01]: This never goes bad for it to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's actually going to bring us the conclusion of our primarks and where they are.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one other piece that I wanted you to jump into before we go to the final invasion of Seoul, the Dark Mechanica.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much stuff happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much stuff happening here and we're going to have to kind of keep this.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to do a very deep dive into AdMec in the future and anytime we do a dive into AdMec, we're going to have to talk about the origins of AdMec.
[SPEAKER_01]: and a dark mechanical, but we cannot talk about the invasion of terror without discussing the dark mechanical.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's dive into this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Finally.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I, so if this deals against to all of you, there's still a contender.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the ad Mac have always been suspicious of the emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been he.
[SPEAKER_01]: Brad just said this really well in the prior episode, that the emperor always appears in whatever form you want to see him as.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he appears on Mars as the Messiah, Messiah, the on the side.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the on the side.
[SPEAKER_01]: He appears on Mars as the on the side.
[SPEAKER_01]: And add meco.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, our god is here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they just kind of capitulate to what he says.
[SPEAKER_01]: But as time goes by, these are to have questions like, hey,
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that duty on this side?
[SPEAKER_02]: Which doesn't help that cast is around going.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he wasn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who was that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's this interesting vault that I don't really want to dive too much into, but it's important.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Emperor after just like, because he loves to do this stuff, he says, don't do X. Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's this mysterious vault on Mars that he bars the ad mech from open.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the ad make up always wanted to open the vault.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyone who has children understands what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a new time goes by addressed right at the time of the of the Horace Heresy, a new fabricator general comes up and tell a borehole.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was super not done with the apron.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it really hates him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Horace knows about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Horace also because he was the warm master for the Emperor knows the truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Horace knows is that he knows the Emperor actually is betraying the Admiral.
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows that as they were waging their campaigns, they were finding STC drives.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were finding AI.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a lot of story.
[SPEAKER_01]: They destroying it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they had a vault of STCs and they destroyed all AI.
[SPEAKER_02]: that they encountered, not only destroyed it, but obliterated from anyone knowing what.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_01]: He gives him probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd make fans out there, but the fact that I'm out of it, I'd make is everyone, if you read enough, Lauren, and Forty Kay, you realize, AdMec are right on that edge of launching the entirety of the, and appearing back into the darkening of technology.
[SPEAKER_01]: They would do it in a quarter of a second.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Horace has this problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: He needs the AdMec on his side, but if he gives them the AI stuff that they want,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it actually will be.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Iron Man will be instantly active.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they're all back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what he does is he kind of teases that he gives them one STC drive as proof that the emperor is holding it back from him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And do he fair that's all a cowboy needs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cowboys says cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was on your team.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was also the guy looking for a reason for reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is that the horse, I don't think my opinion, I mean, this is the horse fully into the power that chaos had throughout the universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm maybe he didn't know about the vault or he didn't didn't think it was that big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Kelbor takes this creates a revolution on Mars and opens what's called the vault of more of that, which is just jam packed full of not great things of chaos robots effectively.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they've been infected for literally thousands of years.
[SPEAKER_02]: They actually weren't cast and few stuff originally.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, as we call them a dark mechanical, the dark mechanical or a combo of yes, they are traders, but they're actually chaos infused robots for a lot of the better.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so a correct though, because their machines are better, because this is effectively to them, new technology.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, and again, this hasn't played it out in the game in every edition, but chaos should be more powerful than regular Marines.
[SPEAKER_01]: A chaos space Marine is more powerful than a space Marine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, GW, fix your codexes.
[SPEAKER_02]: But also their vehicle should be wildly better because they are the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, except for they have PDs like no one's ever had PDs before.
[SPEAKER_02]: I took your dread not, your walker, your tank.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did I do?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm chained a demon to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, what does that do?
[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty goddamn good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It juices them up like no one's business.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, when he shows up out of this vault, he shows people how much better they are because he puts a woman on everybody that's around.
[SPEAKER_02]: For no real reason besides to just kind of show them how powerful I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He shows up with all these weapons and just murder shits everybody within a ten mile radius of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Mars now is in a full revolution to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're saying earlier, this is why, more tearing and full grum and petarabo, we're all supposed to be going to Mars right away because we need to help us solve this shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not even just like this half is this and this half of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no, it's more like we've shattered Mars into seventy factions and they're all fighting individually across the planet.
[SPEAKER_02]: amongst themselves, and also a lot of them don't know why they're fighting.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just know I'm getting attacked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Mara, this is why I wanted to talk about this because Mara is now falling apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Rogel Dorne, whose job it is to protect the, you know, the Sol system now has a problem, because the third planet from the Sun is Earth, the fourth is Mars.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you now have a planet very close to Terra that is
[SPEAKER_01]: basically in full revolt borderline chaos, but this planet produces, tell all of your shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Rogaldorn, you can't just go conquer it because the Rogaldorn then has to drop a blockade.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Rogaldorn has now built a blockade around the solar system, layering it all the way towards Terra, and has a separate blockade around Mars.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, this is working in Horace's favor quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's now really starting to stretch the resources thin within within which they also can't choose a side on Mars, by the way, because they actually Mars doesn't have a clear victor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mars also doesn't have clear factions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it marks as it's just an anarchy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a shit show because it's not just chaos versus loyalist.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's dark mechanical type people versus other people versus semi people loyalist versus individual factions that we're all excited about having a faction basically, which is why you have all the ad next stuff of
[SPEAKER_02]: all Lucius, Ed Mars, and everything else kind of thing, all these split into these wild splinter factions, and it's just going to shit on Mars.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mars is just going to be falling apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the last piece I want to set before we go into the invasion of Terra is cultists.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think this is important, Brad and I were actually discussed this earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's important to go over this, because we talk a lot about the space marine on space marine action.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now we cover a little bit about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the movie action.
[SPEAKER_02]: The real action is happening with the untold trillions of people throughout it's actually more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, throughout the throughout the imperial.
[SPEAKER_02]: That are
[SPEAKER_02]: What we're actually talking about is a lunch.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will do a full episode of this, what's going on in the period, but it's a real thing that it's fairly easily for the cast gods to go, hey man, your life sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would you like your life to suck less?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like I would like to do anything, but put this
[SPEAKER_02]: widget into this hole for for sixteen hours a day and have a dude beat me actually it's not even a dude have a machine beat me over the head every time I'm not the fast enough putting the widget into the hole so let's dive into like context and the note I gave him is classic sci-fi where there's always people who are on the side of the demons I mean I can name more movies than I should
[SPEAKER_02]: They just want to be back.
[SPEAKER_02]: They want to be there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lord, people with shitty lives aren't easily straight to your life can be better.
[SPEAKER_02]: How better.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just going to be better.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's better than it is today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now what you have is from a chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've discussed it before the chaos gods are fed.
[SPEAKER_01]: by whatever it is they care about happening a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So filling disease, excess, basically this forbidden knowledge, these things are all growing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the chaos codes are now able to start pushing out of the warp and more into the material from the immaterial.
[SPEAKER_01]: They slowly embody to go into, but it's possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we begin to see the long-term tragedy of the horse heresy
[SPEAKER_01]: is the imitium and the material begin to blend a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: The creatures of the imitium now can reach into them.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the first time since the birth of Sloan Ash basically, that the creatures of the warp can manifest, not just possess.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've always been able to possess.
[SPEAKER_02]: manifest into the material plane because you have enough belief in whatever their thing is and they start to have planets that are demonically incursions planets where demons can literally physically be when they never could before.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, along with Horace, you know, Horace himself and his legions converting people over, get gods of chaos are actually doing it here and there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're getting what the game calls cultists for those who don't know what these are.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just people who believe perfectly in one of the chaos gods.
[SPEAKER_01]: They worship them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They will sacrifice themselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: They will kill for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever it is, these are instead of being a space marine fighting for a kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a dude who used to work in a factory at him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim, they used to sweep the halls, literally just made a bloodthirsty show up next to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to bring this up because they're very important element to the invasion of the soul system.
[SPEAKER_01]: The chorus has his legions, but he needs more than just that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He needs bodies to throw away it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will give you one of your notes, which is so spot on.
[SPEAKER_02]: The emperor was wildly wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: like wildly wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the Emperor's plan in his shitty British, distant British dad plan was that he was not going to acknowledge the cast existed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he did acknowledge cast existed, they wouldn't have power.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the problem was, is that
[SPEAKER_02]: the exact opposite happen, which is people were ready for chaos.
[SPEAKER_02]: Societies, the ruling parties, people in charge, didn't know chaos existed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they weren't ready for coldest and basically infections.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll know what this is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're trying to solve an infection of a virus that you don't know is exists.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's basically impossible.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the universe for the, for the Imperium is beginning to burn even if even in world's horses directly touching because of chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's everything is kind of falling apart all over the place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing is, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: because of warp storms, which we already, we talked about a little bit a couple of episodes ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's warp storms everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have disconnection between worlds, between systems, between everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's little communication back and forth.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of disinformation between system to system.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they don't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, stop here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're getting ready for our next episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably our final episode in this series, not the series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: There will be our final episode in the Horace Heresy, which will be the invasion of the sole system in terror.
[SPEAKER_01]: At this stage, the doors are open to terror.
[SPEAKER_01]: Horace now has his shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: His legions are now led by demon princes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got Mars on his side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Things are all looking pretty good for Horace.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Emperor's side, he's got Rogel Dorn.
[SPEAKER_01]: three space main chapters, the custodes, sisters of silence, he has some titans, and every single citizen of earth armed with a lasgun.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, it's that he's got some stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Horace is coming and we're going to get to this comment.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they know that Horace is coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they know what they know it's coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as he gets there, it's going to be go time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So next episode, we're going to cover the culmination of Horace's trader rebellion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who does he win?
[SPEAKER_01]: We can all figure that one out or does the emperor win you're gonna have to tune in if you want to find out a look as it's called the Horus guys you guys could just Google the results, but I'm just saying you could let us tell you more or we could talk about it exactly so with that please like and subscribe
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're always learning.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're hoping we're in episode seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're hoping by double digits that will actually know what the hell we're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's going to take you guys to let us know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can fix things after our next episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to move into a much less linear path.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'd like to have a lot more interaction with you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: That we're going to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with that, I am John Barsai.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is Brad Jester.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.