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[SPEAKER_04]: kids you like for wrestling when we like for wrestling to this week on shake them ropes it's the second biggest weekend in wrestling in America question mark
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[SPEAKER_02]: The
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, in the lazy river wrestling criticism.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna preview all of that stuff even though probably won't get up in time because both members of voices of wrestling are on vacation.
[SPEAKER_04]: And in Vader club, even more silliness, Chris has selected Bevisson but hand revealing the real American music video.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess this is Bevisson but had versus whole-coded, which is okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Five stars.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, we'll go with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am Jeff Hawkins.
[SPEAKER_04]: He is Chris Novemberino.
[SPEAKER_04]: Twenty-year anniversary today.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shinya Hashimoto passing away suddenly due to a brain aneurysm at the age of forty.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good God.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look at all the King's road stuff and I mean, the guys who gave their bodies for that style.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, all-time legends, all-time legendary work, but you know, we often like to feature these type of guys in Vader Club, but I always do keep it the back of my mind that there was a real cost to this style.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the question, because it might even be the second biggest weekend in wrestling period.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, my view.
[SPEAKER_02]: New joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're nearing it more and more.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, but seriously, is all in bigger than Royal Rumble?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I really don't think so, but they were pushing this on the observer.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's one of those things where I'm like, look, I think all in is an important show.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's especially important this year for AEW because I think they're gonna be doing a pretty much a big creative reset.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think we won't be able, I mean, look, it's gonna have thirty five star matches that I'll have the snowflake types going ape.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I really think if business is going to be moved by this all in show, we're not going to know for a couple of weeks and it's going to depend on the follow through with how whoever is AEW champion at the end of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And having a
[SPEAKER_02]: killer, killer angle to end this show if this is indeed a rewrite.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for all the snowflakes that might fall at all in, ultimately business will be driven and made by a clever deployment of
[SPEAKER_02]: a big angle here to end the show, a big debut.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, is there any murmurings of who that might be?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think there's a debut out there that can do that, but I don't think so either.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't think that I don't think that's the big angle that needs to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think this needs to be a rebirth.
[SPEAKER_04]: of super over baby face hangman page in some way.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that he has to cut a really strong promo on Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_04]: That that's for me, but maybe maybe I'm not seeing something here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe maybe we go back to hangman and swore of again who knows.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's nobody needs a dominant baby face.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no free agent out there that that that would be that kind of guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: W sign them all in the last year or so.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, like this would be an incredible time for a white hot Will Osprey, the king of the Indies, to make his big appearance at the end of the show against all the heel factions, and wipe them out and establish that he is the new dominant baby face in town, and that he can really beat the crap out of all the heels here, and then he means something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, but I don't know who that would be now, and I also like
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't I'm still having a hard time conceiving what the reset looks like for this company I think even if I was given the pen and paper Yeah, because you have to break up a lot of these heel factions and consolidate them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'd have a baby face come in and wipe out a couple of these heel factions by themselves to get them hot and you still have a heel faction at the back end of it Yeah, and you're going to and I think I know where it is and we'll get to that in the uh
[SPEAKER_04]: All in preview, but we have a few interesting news items.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is kind of under rumour in in you window, but at the same time, it's maybe it's something maybe it's nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Shayna Basler was listed as a producer for the Kailani Jordan vs. Laney Reed match on the
[SPEAKER_04]: July eight NXT show.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is the first time she's been in this role of late.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's done it a few times right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not her next job, but it's something she's doing since she's still under contract under until August second.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was when there's news came out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Someone came out and clarified really quickly that, hey, this is just until my contract ends.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I'm going to be weighing my options, which I assume would be coming from Sheena's camp.
[SPEAKER_04]: especially if AEW might be under consideration, but I think Shayna Basler is a net positive for NXT.
[SPEAKER_04]: She is a legend in NXT.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is where her character was.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's most badass.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I am here for more women in NXT, learning from Shayna Basler.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am too, and Shayna Basler as an agent who could still go and ease a legend in NXT is a tremendous
[SPEAKER_02]: multi-utility item.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because for example, let's say you need to jazz up the product a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or you need to jazz at the women's division a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: You could have Shayna make that white hot, you know, redabue.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can have her get the belt to be a transitional champion to help make that next figure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as she is aging in the matches, then I think that's a good thing too.
[SPEAKER_04]: John Wall Street, a sports business website that Nikon has an ownership stake in, ran an interview with Carlos Silva, who predicted that TNA will have a major television deal within sixty days.
[SPEAKER_04]: Later on, Ariel Hoani show he said ninety days and change it and but he expects it to be a ten million dollar per year deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would include the paper views in TNA plus specials.
[SPEAKER_04]: He has said that TNA plus has twenty one thousand subscriptions.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, on its face, I would look at this and go, he is talking out of his ass.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's absolutely insane if he thinks that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: In middlemaning a deal to Netflix, where for a pretty discount rate, they get access to that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, and who would be able to help TNA broker that kind of a deal with Netflix?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, Nick Khan.
[SPEAKER_04]: And WWE.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's outside of the relevant possibility that you see TNA content on Netflix very soon within the calendar year.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think it's necessarily out of the realm of possibilities.
[SPEAKER_04]: That on Wednesday nights is TNA impact.
[SPEAKER_02]: They absolutely are running more live content and they like the option of you kicking on Netflix.
[SPEAKER_02]: and seeing a library and a live brewery for lack of a better term.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: This I'm at first I read this I go he's he's on crack.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I told this to me immediately I was like, yeah, WWE brokers are dealing with this count for discount rate on TNA.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's at TNA is going to be perfectly happy to be like, which would be a Netflix.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you know, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, we're paying you.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you're actually going to give us money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can be solving for a number of years.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like a distro kid thing where we have to pay to get uploaded.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's an old territory days where territories were paying for the TD time.
[SPEAKER_04]: But this they could be canon fodder in WWE's clinical war against AEW.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll throw something out there to see if we can take some viewers away from them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And look, people might because a lot of people have Netflix who don't have terrestrial cable.
[SPEAKER_04]: or what those numbers are, but I don't think we'll ever see them because nobody releases it.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, buddy likes to talk about the core cutting attrition thing in a super earnest way.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems to always be third party like a malcomations of data is the best understanding of what we have for that trend.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Scott Stanford announcing he's gone from WWE, seems to not have been his choice, but he was there for fifteen years, and I would say he was underutilized.
[SPEAKER_04]: I really liked Scott Stanford.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he came from that classic mold of
[SPEAKER_04]: Real-life broadcaster news broadcaster who came into WWE famously got clowned by CM punk a few times which back when in CM Punk's first run before he left for UFC was mostly doing like
[SPEAKER_04]: I would say third string shows.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I used to have some a lot on the WWE network back in the day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and the network he was doing then when the network died, it would be for mostly just YouTube.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think in maybe peacock, but
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he'd do some voiceovers here and there for the company too, but I always liked the guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he should have got another shot in that, but I guess, yeah, time moves on.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got nothing else to say about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's nope.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's no growth.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, what's your favorite Scott Stanford moment?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, you don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, really, I look, if I was going to give him his his rows or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd say to me, Scott was an integral part of the network launch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, everything and that he did do a lot of really good live stuff on the network.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he was always a very steady hand and knew the product well, you know, look, there's something to be said for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's something for to be said for doing show prep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Dallas morning news reporting that Dustin Rhodes has signed a six year extension during the winter for consulting coaching being ambassador for AEW and occasional wrestling matches.
[SPEAKER_04]: The idea seems to be one of the rare people to have met.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is Dave.
[SPEAKER_04]: His ideas is to be one of the rare people to have matches in six decades if he can pull it off in twenty thirty one he'll be sixty.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like Dustin get paid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thank for as long as he can.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think it's entirely possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: He actually manages to do a matching all six decades, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And speaking of your talk about is there a free agent who could show up.
[SPEAKER_04]: It appears that one is off the table that I thought for certain was going to AEW because there was interest there.
[SPEAKER_04]: AJ Styles assigned a new one year contract extension with WWE.
[SPEAKER_04]: I believe his contract is either a bad to expire or just expired.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he is off the board for going to AEW and having a few more bangers before he retires.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, and I think he likes doing a little bit character work in this Dominic thing is good for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is reheating AJ after various stints of not being particularly cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he is more fun now than he has been in other iterations over the last couple of years.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't want to bump at his age a lot that like the required of a five star banger in AEW.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would not shock me at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I- As it is also, I mean, this is certainly not to sligh his overall work, but he has had a couple of like steps to in the last like year or so, like doing some of those higher flying moves.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he might, yeah, he might very well be cognizant of, oh, it's time to slow this down.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I think age has caught up and maybe I'm going to do one of these spots per match versus three of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's like a I could not tell you what Matt, but in my head, there's a springboard where he lost his footing on which I remember this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, at his age would very much be one of those six.
[SPEAKER_02]: I walked back from it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, I was very lucky tonight, but I'm going to change what I am doing ahead now.
[SPEAKER_04]: And
[SPEAKER_04]: That'll do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: The lazy river of wrestling criticism, whatever we watched, whatever we had time for, I'm going to start with this.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you did not watch the last week's collision, watch the main event of FTR versus the outrunners, it was absolutely sublime and fantastic.
[SPEAKER_04]: It really was.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you don't think the outrunners know how to work, you're in for a shock, they're more than just comedy guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was a really, really great tag match.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we will start with AEW all in.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're going kind of in an order of importance, but I don't know that for a fact it depends on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be saying this is second most important weekend in professional wrestling.
[SPEAKER_04]: Starting with on the zero hour of which there will be twenty more matches added, but they're too on here for the pre-show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Starting with FTR versus the outrunners.
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, as a tag match on here, I think the outrunners get their win back here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they knew that they probably should have had them win on that Thursday match given how the crowd was so over for them in Oxnard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you want to feel good opener.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be a nice little well-work match.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully it does over stay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's welcome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I suspect it'll be good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have the outrunners winning.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, kind of another feel good match, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Big boom AJ and the conglomeration consisting of hologram, Kylo Riley and Tomahiro is she with big justice and the risler.
[SPEAKER_04]: Taking on the Don Callis family of Hitchesero Lance Archer, Rocky Romero, and Trent Beretta.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, now someone, here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of you might have said no one gives a shit about Big Boom AJ in twenty twenty five in your wrong Tony Condos.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like him overall.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just don't want to.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a kid trying to get in the ring.
[SPEAKER_02]: I told you this is a twenty twenty four fab like these are fat personalities.
[SPEAKER_02]: I meant that when I said it in twenty four no one cares now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can I see it at Chassero like stretch the ris or something because I'm here for that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know if anything, I want the risler to like basically just take over this match.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's have him do stupid shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, because because big boom AJ and his little catchphrase and stuff are they're done.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have x-pock heat for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the only one of the three that still got any potential of not being stale is the risler.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the result on the Lance Archer kind of here for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, you know, what can I say the kids just charismatic?
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... but i think big boom major in the conglomeration get a pin on rocky remaro somehow so they have yet after attempting to weaponize the brisseler off the top rope and then to the main card uh... nine matches announced good lord uh... the uh... sorry with the ops of katsu yuri shabata powerhouse hobs and some mojo taking on the death of writers of clotio cast newly wheeler uda and uh... their friend gabe kid
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this should be the end of the death routers here at this paper for you, but I don't know that it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's going to be either.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they're going to get re- something's going to happen where they have something.
[SPEAKER_04]: They kick out some members and they put in new members and it kind of gets a new, can I still think Chris Statlander somehow ending up in this group?
[SPEAKER_04]: So I got the ops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, I just had the baby face.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're in the last one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do the apps when this then, I think the ops loop.
[SPEAKER_04]: This isn't necessarily an order either.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, if it's not necessarily an order, that that changes things a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm going to say the ops, I'm going to say the ops, I'm going to see the ops win.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm going to go with they were they were tane on this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: By beating Wheeler Euda.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Three what now a three way tag team match for the AEW World Tag Team Championship, the Hertz indicate a Bobby Lashley and Shelton Benjamin who are absolutely murder death on Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is just so lame versus jet speed of Kevin night and speed ball Mike Bailey and the Patriarchy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who did what five six concheros on Bobby Lashley's leg?
[SPEAKER_04]: Christian Cage and Nick Wayne.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who you got here?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Patriarchy somehow win this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think the Patriarchy are going to be your new tag chance at somehow somehow we get Christian Cage and cope out of this to go after FTR.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not going to fancy book right now because I don't care.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think the Patriarchy deserve to be in this match, but you can't belt jet speed after all this.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it has to be the Patriarchy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be the Patriarchy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it's just that they're so cold going into this show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I saw a Christian on my screen this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh yeah, Christian, I like him sometimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: For the TNT championship, a title that has seemingly disappeared for the last six months, even though it's supposedly the number two title in the company,
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know who the TNT champion is, Chris, if I ask you?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to just assume Sasha Banks, because I had no clue what any of those belts were that were in the background this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: So no, that's Sasha Banks.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, that's the TBS title, but thank you for playing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Adam Cole is your AEW TNT title, Holder after Waihan Daniel Garcia taking on Kyle Fletcher.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right now, might be on my ballot as most improved.
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, because him and to Keshda as a Southern style tag team, we're awesome on Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_04]: He is putting the personality part of being a heel together with the work.
[SPEAKER_04]: And he is just fantastic.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if they don't belt him here, we write it.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no way Kyle Fletcher doesn't win this, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, he should win this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that Fletcher and Takestah have shown a chemistry together as a tag team that none of the other Don Callis iterations ever have.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I was very ready.
[SPEAKER_02]: When they came out with protestor, protoshita, it doesn't really matter how you say that name.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, nope, this is going to be dumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: But these two guys make sense together in a way chemistry-wise that I was not expecting.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, I think, I think Fletcher should win.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope he does.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Swerve Strickland and Will Osprey versus the Youngbugs of Matt Nick Jackson and a tag match where if Osprey and Strickland lose, they cannot challenge for the AEW World Championship for a year if the Youngbugs lose.
[SPEAKER_04]: They'll be stripped of their executive vice president titles.
[SPEAKER_04]: What did you think of the Go Home segment on Dynamite Chris?
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know I made it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I made it through a decent chunk of dynamite and then I got to like the part two thing and I was watching some of it and I think it's sort of mixing or something so I'd never actually fit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so I saw Matt and Nick get out of a car.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, well, what happened was at the end of the all-star eight-man tag, because that's all Tony can book these days.
[SPEAKER_04]: The death writer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew that was coming, and I don't care about those.
[SPEAKER_04]: The death writers and the young bucks had, had Will Osprey, and I forgot who else is tag, ready to put plastic bags over their heads and choke them out.
[SPEAKER_04]: But instead, they were
[SPEAKER_04]: They were distracted by swirb strickland in a not a bulldozer it's the one with the claw Zamboony no no no no no the construction thing that has the claw.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no the claw all the the bucket right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where where he proceeds to monologue.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the bucks are so distracted during this monologue that they forget to put the plastic bags on the baby faces heads.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they run out there, but they don't run into Swerve who is just destroyed their limo in a thing straight out of Steve Austin to the point where Swerve flips the double bird and says, who's house?
[SPEAKER_04]: but they don't run into each other crossing into the building and out of the building.
[SPEAKER_02]: This sounds like an exceptional heat-building segment, Jeffrey.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really do need to circle back to this.
[SPEAKER_04]: It could have been if Swerve had just destroyed the car and then monologue.
[SPEAKER_04]: But instead he monologueed before doing anything to the car, which would have given them time to get, it was just ridiculous to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like, OK, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have an interesting theory for you about the match, Chris, because I think the young bucks win this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think then Osprey and Strickland are cleared off the board to give Hangman adequate time to see if he can carry this company as a champion.
[SPEAKER_04]: While facing plenty of good challengers in maybe Omega, MJF, Okada, we can do to cash to here.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can do fletcher here.
[SPEAKER_04]: There are plenty of guys you can throw.
[SPEAKER_04]: And even Moxley again, you know, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it is it is high time to try the Adam Page experiment.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have not tried him as champion before and we don't know what business might look like under an Adam Page regime.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel very hopeful that we could build the coherent
[SPEAKER_02]: Cogent story around Adam page that will not fizzle out or lose energy midway through.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, wait, wasn't he champion a few years ago?
[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't we do most of these matchups already?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't we kind of know what Adam page is?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he was emo that he won't be emo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it's different now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who do you have winning?
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... it's at a page versus uh... i don't know that's where we're going to ask for a second you brought up at a page you know uh... i'm i think the books win because they did this company has no idea
[SPEAKER_02]: why they signed Will Osprey in the first place.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so why not just kind of come full circle on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the story here, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: The real story, the meta story is that AEW doesn't really know what they signed Will Osprey.
[SPEAKER_02]: They signed Will Osprey the same reason why an emo kid wears skinny jeans that ride up against their crotch.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're just supposed to do it, but you're not really sure why you're doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of hurting you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because he's the best wrestler in the world, Chris.
[SPEAKER_02]: The pants look good.
[SPEAKER_04]: The women's casino gotlet match for a future AEW women's world championship match.
[SPEAKER_04]: The only two participants we know thus far.
[SPEAKER_04]: our Chris Statlander who will be number one and Megan Bain will be number two after that four way, which was like all the other eight man tags that were in there kind of but I enjoyed the four way because I enjoy all four women on their own merits because they tend to hurt each other but out of all the women's division in this who do you see possibly getting a match for a future world title match.
[SPEAKER_02]: against Monet.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think Monet is winning.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be timeless, Tony Storm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, again, sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is statlander.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems to me that I'm fascinated by the idea that you can build a lot of narrative weight around entrant one and entrant two into a battle oil, but Tony Khan's definitely here on this show going in that direction.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a gauntlet match, not a battle royale.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that, though, that he was doing this is the battle royale thing, you though, with a Bruce Cohen M.J.F.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe as Taylor Lander runs the gauntlet, and that gets her white hide as a heel.
[SPEAKER_04]: I see, I think of those two.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bane, but I, you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe Bane.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I think I know who it's gonna be.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: Willow, night and gale, getting the title match.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then we build up maybe we turned Tony storm in a few months and we we build up that match.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think I think I was I hope they do turn her because that accent as a baby face is so grading.
[SPEAKER_04]: The problem is we don't know if winning this gauntlet is a money in the bank style cash in or just you can announce you want to have at the title match.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if it's not a money in the bank type style thing, I think Willow gets it and then they crown her champion eventually.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't go to that lander because I think you're probably right she ends up in the death riders because they need to do something.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would not be shocked if Brick Baker makes an appearance here either.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think she does, but I'd want shock me, necessarily.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to make sure to put white hot in front of most of these.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody cares.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks, Brick.
[SPEAKER_04]: Way to plug that program with Serena.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... the men's casino gauntlet has three announced participants which is just goes against everything about it uh... one mark brisco number two mgf and uh... i guess number three is mystico
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, mystical.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mystic goes the other named entrance.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boys is intriguing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, I guess MJF has to win this.
[SPEAKER_04]: MJF's totally winning this.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then, and then it's gonna, and I think Bobby Lashley might be one of the first opponents for hangman at a page.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then that's how we get into the split of
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the hurts indicate or hurt business between MJF and lastly kind of needleing each other.
[SPEAKER_04]: But that's just me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just thinking ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, like, you're literally merging the internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll look at the content.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You, like, this is, I'll this under.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am definitely not mad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony Conne is not gotten to by old vincism's sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the idea that vincism talks about the word intercontinental for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get over it dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get over it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is one.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is a match where I have no idea who's going to win it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you'll caught a wins this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go the opposite way because I think Omega needs to win this to heat him up.
[SPEAKER_04]: He is ice cold right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you have the O'Connor to catch the story within the Calespan, but to catch this going off to work in Japan for a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that might play into it somehow.
[SPEAKER_04]: I, for some reason, I just think they need to have Kenny Omega win this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think O'Connor beats Omega, and then he's kind of done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Calis is guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Calis is a little bit of a crush on O'Connor, and now that he knows that O'Connor can actually beat Omega on like all of his other slubs.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would not be shocked if that happens also.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we'll see.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see what O'Cotta we get to.
[SPEAKER_04]: I assume he'll have his working boots on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Time was telling storm versus Mercedes Monet.
[SPEAKER_04]: from the, I hate, I did not like that go home.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, this is, why did you not finish diet of my Chris?
[SPEAKER_02]: I straight up, it would directly point at this promo.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate Tony Storm as the.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was two characters talking past each other for me as opposed to what it could have been where it's like mercy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: No, Tony Storm has big dogism.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not letting the AEW people off the hook after slagging on some of these other people in WWE for having the big dog Roman Reigns energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony Storm's current character right now is like laying into like
[SPEAKER_02]: We are coded catch phrases on a regular basis.
[SPEAKER_02]: She does the same lines and you're kind of waiting for her to go say the thing Tony say the thing I have a big ass
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, whatever it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, like I literally said, there's only two things that come from Texas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why, and I'm way, way, way, way, way, do you know what I'm doing here?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's been a bunch of this stuff and a little bit of it's fine, but like she's getting
[SPEAKER_02]: by on these promos, going into that stuff because she doesn't have real content or a real ability to engage with the other person on the other side of the screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: The irony is, timeless Tony Storm is a terrible actress in a scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: timeless Tony Storms character sort of choose up whatever scene it's in and it becomes sort of like camp catch and it's unable to deliver any degree of intensity.
[SPEAKER_02]: It can't even deliver the AEW classic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want you to feel something promo that we all know and love.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, man, at this next match, I want you to feel something.
[SPEAKER_02]: She can't even do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time for Tony Storm because it's got to be like, and I am somebody who does feel something and you, Mercedes-Money, are going to feel something, you know, my tits will be out and you will be down.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's too kitschy characters.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's talking to each other, but Tony, it's fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's fun using Mercedes a being a fraud.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm just like the problem with this interaction to me is that neither of these people are connecting on the real level.
[SPEAKER_04]: It needs to be Mercedes Monet came to this company.
[SPEAKER_04]: to be the biggest star in wrestling, not just the biggest women star, the biggest star in wrestling where she could prove that she could carry a company.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tony Storm is here because Vince McMahon wanted to hyper-sexualize her and she didn't want, and she basically left to be homeless.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she wanted to do that in her own different way.
[SPEAKER_02]: She had her own vision of how that was supposed to be done.
[SPEAKER_04]: But what I'm saying is there is a real story here to be told, and they have just decided to run as far away from it as possible.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a much more consistent way to characterize Tony's storm that would be within this character where she views herself as this mountain, like this unclimable mountain, like you're trying to click on these belts.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am the uncomfortable queen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am like, this is my Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_02]: You cannot conquer me instead of
[SPEAKER_03]: to your point, a big reason this false flat is you have someone speaking like this, Jeffrey, accusing people of being fake, you are a fraud, you are a fake, Jeffrey, like you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the CEO, I'm the CEO.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are unreal.
[SPEAKER_03]: No one believes anything you say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, right like you in the hand.
[SPEAKER_04]: But for the AEW fan base and also now in the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they wanted to work.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the problem with that fan base.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes where they really hurt themselves for trying to help.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where they want crap to work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, no, bro's playing a bad guitar solo stop clapping so they go practice.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know why they wanted to not clap.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're a great friend of mine.
[SPEAKER_04]: The irony of why they wanted to work is they want it to be someone that quote unquote, they made in AEW conquering someone from WWE, but Tony Storm is a complete WWE character.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a big, it, in a lot of ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like a, a parody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Of the character she was trying to be made into by Vince.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, you're building the heart and soul of the division around someone who is a black and white fraud.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who thinks she's unstuck from time?
[SPEAKER_02]: Her speech is in denial of the time and place that we are in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because she's not speaking Australia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be very clear.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what's going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's transatlantic.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's made in the twentieth century, transatlantic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, jeffery.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's William F. Buckley.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, which was an inherently fake, it's a fake dialect.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a construct.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, if anything, the one argument you never want to care to speaks like that, though, is accusing other people being phony baloney, because at the core, your speech is phony, dude.
[SPEAKER_04]: And in the main event, John Moxley, your champion versus Hangman, Adam Page and a Texas death match for the AEW World Championship.
[SPEAKER_04]: This thing is going to be overbooked as hell, but they're going to have to end it with at least five minutes of these two one on one in order for to get over.
[SPEAKER_04]: And my only other comment is that Adam Page should come out to his baby face music.
[SPEAKER_04]: He shouldn't leave to his baby face music.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he should, but he should come out to it as well to get this crowd going as opposed to that.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, God.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, do the upbeat.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do the upbeat hangman theme here, but yes, we are crowning hangman, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Moxley continuing his champ would be dumb at this point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, Jeff, that's been true for months.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't actually accept that as an argument.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to get to some other argument where page has to win, because Moxley retaining here would be dumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is an argument you and I have been making for a very long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this angle sucks?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always sucked.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the promos that you like by john moxia are only good because it's like he's not doing a promo within the angle he's just doing a john moxley promo which makes you nostalgic for when he was good not this which uh... just a referback sucks so i think i think moxley retains yep no yeah Texas yeah i do you know
[SPEAKER_02]: Need to be over a while ago, and I don't see any reason why it's done yet.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, anything in a W that you want to hit on other than this stuff or can we move on?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we need to move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I have thirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have less than thirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I hear twenty.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we'll do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: NXT great American bash five matches.
[SPEAKER_04]: Javan Evans versus Jasper Troy.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Jess for sure has gotten win this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think he's winning because he's bigger.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because Javan laid him out.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fairly easy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ethan Page versus Ricky Saints in a false count anywhere match for the NXT North American title.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think this is going to be a banger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Saints wins.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go with page retaining.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it is false.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can a were very project comes out.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it he projects going to help out.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: The singles match for the NXT Women's North American title.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Ruka with Zarya versus Izzy Dame with Tatum Paxley.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Soul loses the title here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, the story here has been broadly speaking that the calling is moving into being under control of Izzy Dane and Izzy needs a belt to kind of solidify that and then Tatum will be like her little minion of sorts to bending the belt.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can decide if you want to break up Zarya and Soul Ruka because they're pretty good team.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or if you want to keep going with them.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think actually there's a chance that they belt soul and Zarya as the women's tag title on evolution entirely possible.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah right that she loses this and that's the that's the consolation for losing the singles title.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean right no I think you know the consolation but also I think recognition that Zarya and soul
[SPEAKER_02]: are a nice team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they they they narratively compliment each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like Zoals the chill one in Zaria has the rage up capacity.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you always have that card to play narratively where she can kind of freak out and I might cost them the match or win them the match.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of different outs of that team.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jordan Grayson Blake Monroe versus fatal influence of JC Jane and Fallen Henley with Jasmine Nick's thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's fairly obvious that Jordan and Blake are going to win.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boy, Blake doesn't win.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Blake might turn heel because that that entire go home thing was I don't care about training.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just want to get my nails done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what if this is all a set up on Jordan Grace?
[SPEAKER_02]: And oh, there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Blake becomes the new leader of fatal influence or becomes the new member of fatal influence.
[SPEAKER_04]: Horseman beat down.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm here for that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, the problem is I think there's also going to be a heel turn in the main event as Oberfemi takes on Yoshiki in a mirror with Josh Briggs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Boy Briggs was acting heelish on this segment, wasn't he?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it just gives away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, nothing, this is a lot of down there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're tipping their cards here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I hated that they did this because I think this needed to be kind of breaks just playing it neutral friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: As in like, yo, you got this, dude, you got this, not over the top.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm your number one fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or this other thing where, you know, I got a serious trick about, hmm, what am I up to?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he should have just played a show, and then you do the beat down afterwards.
[SPEAKER_02]: You do the jealous beat down after in a moral loses, because he's losing here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't like that Briggs made him so much of a part of the story here, because I don't think it lets, in a more, get that chance to connect with the fans, because it seems not enough about him.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did dig mood on NXT though, if that made me laugh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Moving on to then Saturday night's main event.
[SPEAKER_04]: Four matches, they'll price you horn a women's match somewhere in here, but it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_04]: Solosicovers is Jimmy Uso for the United States Championship.
[SPEAKER_04]: Solicyco is retaining.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no way that that's happening, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, just Jimmy Chop guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tala Tango will come out and do something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Randy, you know, I'd probably how they're going to get out of this is that like other members of the family, you're going to beat up Jimmy, so it's protected, but he stinks and there it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll get to the other two matches because the the top ones, the intriguing one.
[SPEAKER_04]: Randy Orton versus Drew McIntyre is going to be a banger, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think Drew McIntyre wins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dressed to win here, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, journeys to get back in the mix and I think a big win over Andy's and important thing for Drew to kind of get back into the get back into the shuffle.
[SPEAKER_04]: LA night versus Seth Rollins.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rollins is winning this with the help of somebody in his crew, but God knows what they're already breaking them up with Ron Breaker.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Clubber me over the head with the work coming for Seth Rollins promo here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, he takes the microphone away from Paul Hayman and interrupts.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just it's too soon for that, but it might be a swirl.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the thing here.
[SPEAKER_04]: They may just go, oh, we fool you all.
[SPEAKER_04]: Haha, and then sucks because they like to do that a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it could be the fake dissension or orchestrated by Hayman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hayman does love that story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gives himself this day who's X-Mockinger thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where he's like so good at emotionally training people that they can do completely implausible things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like slap or punch each other in the face and every beat of it is just a work on all the dumb marks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hayman X-Mockinger.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, here's the question.
[SPEAKER_04]: The main event of this is Goonther, your champion versus Goldberg and his retirement match for the World Heavyweight Championship.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who wins this match?
[SPEAKER_04]: And is there a cash in after this match?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you forget the question is, is there a cash in during this match to protect both of these guys, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have a way of getting out of this where nobody looks particularly bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say there is a cash in during this match and Rollins gets pinned.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, with like a spear, like Goldberg spears him or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he comes in.
[SPEAKER_02]: He screws over Goldberg.
[SPEAKER_02]: He caused Goldberg his opportunity.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, Gunther is able to pin Rollins.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now Rollins looks like the weak link in that faction.
[SPEAKER_02]: That it's not a Hayman X Machina thing with Brahm Breaker that we really are tipping our cards this early.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to shoot my shot on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: With a full knowledge that I might be wrong, but it does kind of seem like there's some evidence they might be going this direction.
[SPEAKER_04]: I went, I'm going another way.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought for a moment they might belt Goldberg for his last thing, but this is WWE and they're still bitterness especially probably from Hunter about the attitude era, so that's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I do think Gunther pins Goldberg, and then Goldberg does get a spear or in a jackhammer on Gunther.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then... That's it, Rollins comes down.
[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to protect the Goldberg loss.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that they're not just gonna let Bill... That's why I'm saying the Seth Rollins thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: In my head, what knows at me is the idea that Bill Goldberg's getting pinned kind of clean in some way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't...
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't see WWE liking that branding wise.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can see WWE liking it branding wise to pin Goldberg.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then Goldberg gets his heatback as his retirement.
[SPEAKER_04]: He gets a standing ovation from the crowd.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Rollins comes in and takes advantage of going through being down.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I was thinking because I don't think I just don't see them giving Goldberg a win here necessarily.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the other great thing to about this is you'd have Seth Rollins screwing over Bill Goldberg in his retirement.
[SPEAKER_02]: That should just be the five Seth Rollins heel energy.
[SPEAKER_04]: But he doesn't screw over Goldberg necessarily.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he ends up getting pinned by Gunther and the Skullberg doesn't win the World title because Seth Rollins got pinned in a three way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yes, in your scenario.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just very much in this Goldberg's loss has to be protected mindset.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, or thinking that WWE psychology on this, it has to be
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he's getting the standing ovation somehow after the match.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it has to be a post match beat down.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would think if he gets pinned, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Like Goldberg, like Goldberg destroys somebody after the match.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like maybe it's even my, my construction Rollins cost Goldberg.
[SPEAKER_02]: The match going through retains, then it's Goldberg and Rollins and Goldberg is able to spin Rollins or spear Rollins and do the jackhammer as a final go home.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be a lot easier to get up and over than you.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, here's the other thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he jack hammering Gunther?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he might spare him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody spare him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's got to get jack hammered.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is my other part of this argument.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, but I still have Seth as champion after this.
[SPEAKER_04]: You have Gunther as champion after this.
[SPEAKER_04]: That'll be interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think they're going to do a failed catcher, but we will see.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's move on to.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's had a successful one already.
[SPEAKER_02]: If anyone could stomach having a failed cash, it's wrong.
[SPEAKER_04]: then we get to WWE evolution absolutely unnecessary paper view.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let me state that for the record.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's necessary because they are on the show and Saudi Arabia.
[SPEAKER_04]: Singles match for the NXT Women's title, JC Jr.
[SPEAKER_04]: Champion with Fallen and Jasmine versus Jordan Grace.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we see, so like I think fatal influence won at the paper view.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or no, I think Jordan Monroe won at the pay-per-view, so then Jordan can lose here to J.C.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jane.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Jordan's getting belted here, and then I think, somehow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you think J.C.
[SPEAKER_02]: is already toast, this champion.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think she's- I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're keeping this most beatable champion everything for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's like the most beatable champion ever thing seems to me to be a telegraph that she might be the champion for a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm kind of here for that, but I'm trying to figure out how to get out of it with foul and possibly gunning for her and then this Blake, Blake Monroe, Jordan Grace thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jaycee always, Jaycee always fighting away to warmer self to retention.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be the running story with her.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: And an interminable.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: What the hell are we doing?
[SPEAKER_04]: Match Becky Lynch versus Bailey versus Lair of Alkiri and a triple threat match for the WWE Women's Intercontinental Championship and the one thing you shouldn't have done in this bill is make Bailey a jerk.
[SPEAKER_04]: Why?
[SPEAKER_04]: People want to like Bailey.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we just make her into complete and absolute jerk to Lyra Valcaria who has been screwed six ways to Sunday by Becky Lynch.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just... I hate everybody in this feud right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: See, you thought this feud had potential.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I knew that has had go away energy, feel like the better part of a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's just no hope.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Becky Lynch's retaining, isn't she?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because the point is Becky and Bailey behind the scenes to me, want to make Lyra.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we can't exactly have that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I just, Lyra's eventually going to win this title back against Becky, but we still have to go through this and it's just, uh, no thanks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and a no holds barbash that might be fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jade Cargo versus Naomi.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I have to answer the door.
[SPEAKER_02]: My time is getting tight.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, Naomi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, cool car go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I am the same way.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Although a few more previous for you answering the door, Chris, if you'd like.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tiffany Stratton's.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tiffany Stratton.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got, we got Book of Man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, Tiffany Stratton versus Trish Stratus.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Tiffany wins.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Naomi catches it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, Tiffany wins.
[SPEAKER_04]: Battle royal any any thoughts no, okay, uh four-way tag judgment day Charlotte Flair and Alex of list solruca's area kabuki warriors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, uh, uh, a die solruca and solruca's area.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think so too.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think they've been rucks in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, eoscivers is rea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh,
[SPEAKER_02]: Ria, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm actually just say EO gets a win here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, yeah, I think it's kind of important to keep the EO Ria thing going.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, talk about your beef as a butt head thing and we'll end it there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Time is tight guys, but I have to drive all the way out to Rio Rancho and it is five p.m.
[SPEAKER_02]: here in Albuquerque.
[SPEAKER_02]: So beef as a butt head versus Hulk is four forty five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I'm not at the same time as me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I was like, I needed to tape it three and we ended it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we had to do a blood sedition this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bevious about adverse talk, all good thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just to have me cackling this week, I think it encapsulates an important part of professional wrestling that is sometimes been lost, which is the bone head element.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should be able to laugh and chuck off of somebody, some asshole getting the ax handle.
[SPEAKER_02]: My name is Chris Tom Brinwick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I got for you this week.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, get out of here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll wrap it up from here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with Chris.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think there should be more yelling about kicking and punch him and hurt him and all that in wrestling.
[SPEAKER_04]: Instead, we're getting these graceful dives and fun moves and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And basically, thirty-year-old neckbeards ruining stuff for us.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, there's been shake them ropes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't realize he was an hour ahead.
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he was on my time.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can follow the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: I shake them ropes.
[SPEAKER_04]: You follow me at Kripp game thirteen.
[SPEAKER_04]: I also do the Dynamite show on the fight game media network Wednesdays about twenty minutes after Dynamite ends Paul Fontaine and I thoroughly deconstruct AEW.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, enjoy your weekend of wrestling.
[SPEAKER_04]: Find stuff you like and watch it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Talk to you next time.